@@YvngGoat_ How's Bron ahead of MJ, Kareem or Bill in your opinion? I mean for me Lebron has a moderately legitimate argument with Kareem and Bill but with MJ he doesn't really have an argument if you're being objective imo
@@SongofIceandTea yep I do believe that, there’s most definitely a goat when you’re being objective. Of course there’s subjective aspects in every analysis but almost every objective measure (with proper context) shows one guy is the goat
Such a humble man with six championships! Tells it like it is! Saw him play at the GWF walked right down to the floor and stood in Aww ... Magic was also a huge specimen! Love them both !
@@terrysamuels1387 so Goat Mt is interchangeable. I only listed it above in that order because it was by Era. Bill and Wilt 1960s Kareem 1970s and 1980s Jordan 1990s Either one of those 4 have solid argument to be named as the GOAT and at the peak of their games, they dominated like no one else ever had. Then #5 and 6 is interchangeable with either Kobe or LeBron. They both are the greatest players we’ve seen in our modern generations. #7-8 is Magic and Shaq. Greatest point guard ever and most dominant center aside from Wilt. #9-10 Larry Bird and Tim Duncan for leaderships and fundamentals. I’d probably put Hakeem at 11. Just barely out of the top 10.
I can see this. Jordan wasn't as dominant as Wilt and doesn't have enough rings as MJ but has both to help. Sam Jones does have 10 rings though and was a good scorer lol
Intelligent, thoughtful, articulate and classy! I love Kareem for his humility and ability to explain why it’s truly unlikely that there ever will be a GOAT! God bless Kareem! Furthermore, this argument is an ongoing one that has been around for years. It’s been exacerbated recently by the megalomania of LeBron James claiming that he’s the GOAT! I guess that is what when you don’t have anything more than a high school perspective! Just listen to Kareem, Bill Russell, Michael Jordan and Wilt! When they speak you can hear educated mature individuals who do not look through a narrow lens but wider more well-rounded lifetime horizons. Maybe someday LeBron will grow up!
Very generous and kind, Kareem. We understand you can't answer this question truthfully, so I'll do it for you. YOU are the GOAT, the greatest ever, the once and future and forever King, however reluctant you are to claim your rightful crown.
@@MrBishop1954 Doc, Greatest high school player on greatest high school team ever. Greatest college player on greatest college team ever. Greatest player in NBA history on one of greatest NBA dynasties ever. A simply breathtaking number of awards and lifetime records and accomplishments -- his Wiki page is just plain scary -- that still don't capture his true dominance on the court...too bad he wasn't able to team with Magic and Showtime Lakers in his prime, might have broken Russell's record of 11 world championships.
Yes and No. 60s: Russell (Team player); Wilt (individual player) 70s: Kareem 1a. Dr. J (ABA) 80s: Kareem, Bird, or Magic (take your pick) 90s: Jordan or The Dream 00s: Shaq, Kobe or Duncan 10s: Lebron Imo. Subjective
@@sambeezy007 Yeah but I can agree to this list a lot easier and it's ok to list a top 3 I think for the 80s and perhaps the 2010s. Even though as incredible as the Dream was (certainly a top 10 still in my books), you got to give Michael the 90s without any question mark.
I love kareem abdul jambar answer, even MJ is uncomfortable with the whole debate and calling him the goat when he never played in a era with the shoulder he stands on, the whole 🐐 debate is ridiculous to him, MJ words.
@@MrBishop1954 that is why i say that the goat conversation is not relevant because it goes by era, there are players from the 60's that MJ has never come up against.
Size does matter. I tell people the only way to solve this problem once and for all is to have a 1on1 tournament. And Lebron and Jordan are automatically eliminated. It comes down to Prime Wilt, Kareem, The Dream or Russell.
To me Kareem is the most accomplished player in basketball history at every level three city Championships at Power Memorial three time NCAA Basketball Championship three time Final Four Most Outstanding Player three time first team All American two time College player of the year (1967 1969) NBA 6 time Champion 6 time NBA MVP 2 time NBA Finals MVP retired in 1989 as the league's all time leading scorer and shot blocker 3rd all time in rebounding no one else comes close to those accomplishments.
If you are counting high school, college and NBA you might be right. As far as just the NBA goes, I am not sure I agree. Wilt was also a track star in college which may have taken away from basketball at that level. Anyway Wilt still holds over 60 NBA records even 50 years after he retired. Also they didn’t keep track of blocks in his time so there is a good possibility that Wilt would be above him on blocks. Wilt did have more rebounds in 14 years than Kareem did in 21 years. The finals MVP was no awarded until 1969 which means Wilt only had opportunity to win it a few years at the end of his career and Kareem had opportunity the whole 21 years of his career. Again the fact Wilt had over 70 NBA records when he retired and still holds 61 records 50 years after he retired puts him in the conversation as far as the NBA goes. Another player that could be in the conversation is Bill Russell. Another player that blocks were not recorded, the finals MVP did not exist during his career or who knows how many he would have been awarded, had more rebounds in a shorter time and won 11 championships in 13 years.
Rickey Cole Kareem is the GOAT without question nobody has the accomplishments he has from high school through to the NBA then Russell Wilt Magic Bird and Dr J had to put him in there because the league merger was because of one man that's Dr J yes that's the top six I saw all of them play
@@MrBishop1954 like I said if you are counting high school, college and NBA you are right. Nobody is ever going to accomplish what Kareem did when he led John Wooden’s Bruins. Bill Walton came close but I don’t think anyone will ever even get close to that again. Now I didn’t see Kareem in High school but I did see him at UCLA. I didn’t really see a lot of Russell and only the last 5 years of Wilt while he was a Laker. The only question for me is if you only count the NBA. Blocks were not a stat that was kept track of and there was no such thing as Finals MVP for the majority of Russell’s and Wilt’s careers. Wilt is basically the record book and Russell had 5 more championships. They both have more rebounds and both played 7 or 8 less years in the league. Finals MVP existed 1 year of Russell’s career and 5 years of Wilt’s. It existed the entire 21 years of Kareem’s career. Blocks were not recorded ever in Russell’s career and 1 year of Wilt’s while they were recorded for 17 years of Kareem’s. I don’t hold it against Russell and Wilt that they don’t have those stats or awards and Kareem does. Again if you count high school, college and NBA or even just College and NBA there is question the GOAT is Kareem but if you are just counting NBA I would have to disagree.
@@MrBishop1954 Kareem is not the goat, although he certainly is top 3 no question Assess these points and if you’re objective you may see my view… 1. If the merger happened sooner Kareem has 4 RMVP (5 at most) Dr J has 1-2 of Kareem’s RMVP for sure 2. How is someone who’s not the finals MVP or his own teams best player 3 out of 6 chips going to compare to MJ with also 6 chips yet he was by far the best player all 6 times? 3. Now MJ and Kareem have very similar accomplishments both individual and team, although MJ has the slight edge - yet he did it in 5-6 fewer seasons - read that again MJ accomplished slightly more in 6 fewer seasons Do those key facts adjust your take at all? I’m curious because they do for me
Ive always felt just like Kareem, theres just too many greats in the conversation to name any one player as the goat - for me im a HUGE Larry Bird fan, but like Kareem I have to say "...but what about Wilt, Russell, Jordan, and the list goes on. I think you might assemble a top five or more difficult a top three as a Mount Rushmore but even then someone is getting short changed.
Kareem was also asked that question on first take when Skip Bayless was on there, Cap said that it's one of those conversations where you go to the bar and have some chicken wings and beer and debate on it 😅
Wilt changed his generation and Kareem changed his and it`s safe to say that if you change your generation in a sport, you are the goat of that generation.
They altered the game because of Wilt. That's all you need to know. A close 2nd would be Kareem. They changed the rules because of him in college(they banned dunking). They never changed the rules to try to reign in Jordan. In fact they relaxed the rules. Players like Jordan gained more rushing yards than Walter Payton.
He is right, each era or decade has it great player who leads the play at the time in many and different ways......... As Kid to now I have read or watched from the late fifties to now the teams and players!!!!! Put Jordan in the 60's and they would eaten his lunch no finesse and the hand check he would never reach the basket like he did!!! Put Bird in the 2010 + and he would be a super star hitting 10 to 15 x 3's a game but put him in the 60's and they would place him under the basket and not let him shoot that far out.... So Just goes to show the era of ball!!!!!
In my opinion, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the Greatest Scorer of All Time. His numbers do all the talking. Love Mike, Kobe, LeBron is not my guy but his dominance speaks for itself, but Cap is the Greatest.
Bill Russell won 16 Championships in 19 years: Back-to-back State Championships as high school Junior/Senior; Back-to-back NCAA Championships with USF as Junior/Senior, with 55 game win streak, undefeated Senior year; Olympic Basketball Championship, average victory margin of 53 points, Russell was high scorer for the team; 11 NBA Championships in 13 years. Russell was as strong as Chamberlain, could leap like Michael Jordan, was as quick as a guard, had court awareness of Larry Bird, and blocked shots like no one before or since. Russell was 2-1 in Championships as Player-Coach. Russel once leaped OVER another player to slam, on a fast break. Russell PREFERRED to play defense and allow his teammates to score.
@@ghost3337 no Wilt on your top 5 goat? He's the only player who changed the rules on NBA because he's too good & unstoppable.. highest points in one game even though there is no 3 points ..
@@Ahsile-si3pl 1. Wilt 2. Russell 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Dr. J Only reason I have these 5 over Jordan is because all 5 were team players and 1 was unfortunate to have only 2 good coaches to lead him the right way (Wilt). You may ask why Dr. J? 1. He's my all time favorite. 2. He's the original Jordan and like Jordan revolutionized the game in the ABA but unlike Jordan brought a basketball challenge with him to the NBA the dunk contest.
I agree wholeheartedly with Kareem. I think the GOAT conversation is ridiculous because in every instance I have witnessed it (by guys who never played pro ball) the players discussed are almost exclusively those who are currently playing or are early into retirement. There's no discussion of positions, of how the game has changed, or any number of peripheral aspects that would need to be part of the discussion. I will say something about Jordan though... I grew up with 4 years of season tickets to Syracuse basketball and football games. The bulls had an exhibition game at the Carrier Dome in the late '80's. Upon walking into the building there was an electricity that I could clearly feel that I never felt before or after in that building, and I am absolutely certain that it felt that way because MJ was in the building, and it wasn't the crowd because I was there an hour early to watch them warm up.
Classy response given that him and Wilt didn't like each other for years and I put Kareem and Wilt right up there for sure in Greatness who can really say who the Goat is
He is totally on point. The current debate on the GOAT seem to be only comparisons of James & Jordan, which isn't enough to determine THE GOAT, despite the tremendous legacies of both MJ & LJ.
Anyone saying Jordan is the goat is a drifter, especially when they stay reaching for reasons to defend his position while calling out flaws of other players to cover up being hypocrites
If you ever had a discussion of who’s the greatest player after the age of 35, Kareem would absolutely be number 1 and it wouldn’t even be subjective. He was around 33 by the time he and Magic became teammates. The lakers 87-88 repeat Kareem was in his 80s, haha jk but he was around 40 at that time which is amazing.
@@averydaymond1560 Having grown up a UCLA fan, I loved Kareem throughout his career and he performed at a high level until he retired. Also, I don't know if you have seen his recent commentaries on various events, including the Will Smith fiasco, but he is articulate and insightful. I know that LeBron has failed in building a team and the last few years have not been what anyone wanted, but I just wanted to note that his statistics were impressive last year.
Kudos the Kareem, he has an uncanny wisdom about him in his answer about the GOAT in basketball, he mentions perspective and how no one saw Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell play so the current crop of players' perspective is skewed somewhat. Like he said, Wilt Chamberlain scored a 100 points in one game and averaged 50 points per game for an entire season. He could have kept on scoring but he decided it was best to let other players score so his assists went up. Kareem then sums up the interview with the athleticism of Jordan and James and says that is what the GOAT crowd is looking at.
He's so cerebral This video doesn't do his thinking justice. He played against a hard and I mean brutally rough time nowadays it's all 3 pointers. Different era like he said
Bill Russell won 16 Championships in 19 years: Back-to-back State Championships as high school Junior/Senior; Back-to-back NCAA Championships with USF as Junior/Senior, with 55 game win streak, undefeated Senior year; Olympic Basketball Championship, average victory margin of 53 points, Russell was high scorer for the team; 11 NBA Championships in 13 years. Russell was as strong as Chamberlain, could leap like Michael Jordan, was as quick as a guard, had court awareness of Larry Bird, and blocked shots like no one before or since. Russell was 2-1 in Championships as Player-Coach. Russel once leaped OVER another player to slam, on a fast break. Russell PREFERRED to play defense and allow his teammates to score.
Every player has his own opinion and people must respect that and every basketball fan must only support who ever they like. My GOAT is MJ but I will not force others to support him, they are entitle to their own opinions and choices of stars in NBA. Kareem is right that NBA is a game that came through different eras with the rules changing with time. Early times had different stars who played under different rules and the stars who came after. NBA's popularity reached fever pitch in the 1980s and 1990s that was the era the game was televised globally and people really appreciated the game and the stars. After that, players are playing for their money and not the love of the game and basketball lost its popularity at the world stage. The goat debate is one way of NBA trying make the game popular again.
I would vote for you, Big Fella, because I saw you play for many years. But of course, I am biased too because I didn't see so many of the all-time greats before you, or pay close attention to the current or more recent stars.
i really thought he was gonna say jordan and since, i am a fan of the NBA i do have some idea who is the goat in my opinion wilt was the best player in basketball history in that era there was no three point line so when i was a child and heard that i was like "gosh i didint knew that somone could score a 100 points in a game" so thats my opinion about the "who is the goat" question
You can do GOAT by decade. All time? Only 6 rises to the surface and only 3 can be judged from those six. The Big 6 being: Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Bird and Jordan. Big 3 from that: Bill, Kareem, Mike. In my humble opinion, Kareem is the GOAT.
Yes,when you'd greatest basketball player.We are no talking just NBA. It's hands down that from HS to the pros that Lou Al Kareem us the greatest even in the world. He did in BB heaven NY,he did it in cold Midwest,Buck's He did it in Los Angeles, Cali, PLEASE !
No question about it, l've watched them all from Wilt, Russell,Baylor, Big O, West, to Hakeem, DR.J, Pistol Pete, Moses Malone, Gervin to Shaq, Kobe, Carl Malone, lsiah Thomas, Jordan now LeBron, Durant, Kyrie, Curry, Gennis. And no one and I do mean no one come close to Lewis Ferdinand Alcindor/ Kareem Abdul Jabbar at every level, he was the best High School Player Ever (Power Memorial
Best College Player Ever(UCLA) Best Pro Ever( Bucks & Lakers) The comments the previous guy wrote can not be refuted because it's all facts. I was the Laker ball boy in 1970 so again I have seen alot of these guys up close at there Best. I'm more than a sports fan, l'm a student of sports a ser'vante. Add James Nathaniel Brown S the greatest football player,Yes over Emmett and Barry, Bret, Johnny U, Paul Horning, Lawrence TAylor, Dick Butkus, Jerry Rice, Montana, Peterson and Dickinson. For baseball I would give the nod to Henry Aaron over Willie Mays but not by much...Had Mays played in Atlanta instead of San Francisco he would have hit 800 home runs and so would Josh Gibson. With no Disrespect to Reggie Jackson Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Walter Johson, Bob Feller, Roberto Clemente, Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Mickey Mantle or my favorite player Teddy Ballgame Theodore Williams. ALL were Great but Hank and Willie were better the numbers never ever lie. Of course in Hockey there o ly one name it's not Mark Messier, Bobby Orr, Bobby Hull, Gordon Howe, Alex Ovietchkin, Sidney Crosby or Super Mario. The of the best is simply called the GREAT ONE I need not elucidate more. When comparing these great players do it by the numbers again numbers never lie when u put in the right formula.🏈⚾️🏀🏒
I agree. The numbers do not lie. They are not subjective. Wilt stands alone. Jab bar is not even top 5 by the numbers. Wilt. 30/23 for his career. No one else did that for even one year.
I never saw him in high school but from what I have heard there is no argument there. Nobody is ever going to match or beat his accomplishments while on John Wooden’s Bruins. Bill Walton came close but nobody will even get close again. So again no argument there. As far as pros go I disagree. Wilt is basically the record book. He had over 70 records and still holds 61 fifty years after he retired. Bill Russell has 5 more championships. Both have more rebounds. Both played 7 to 8 fewer years than Kareem. Kareem does have more points but he also played 21 years as opposed to 13 and 14 of Russell and Wilt. He has more blocks and Finals MVP awards but that is because blocks were not recorded ever during Russell’s career and only 1 year of Wilt’s and finals MVP existed one year during Russell’s career and 5 of Wilt’s. Finals MVP has been in existence Kareem’s entire career and blocks were recorded for 17 years of it. For this reason you cannot hold it against Russell or Wilt that Kareem has more blocks and Final MVP awards. Kareem is definitely near the top as far as NBA goes but I don’t think is the top player ever. I would put Wilt and Russell above him. As far as your list of greats the only name that I truly believe does not belong is Lebron. No question that he is a very physically gifted athlete and has a lot of accomplishments in the NBA. I just believe he is an overrated stat packer and a cancer to any team he is on. I also believe that any stars on his team play the worst of their careers while on his team. This can not be a coincidence.
@@markwoods653 I saw them all play also and it's Kareem then Russell he won in college too University of San Francisco and was player coach for the Boston Celtics and won a championship nobody else has done that
Again Kareem won 3 high school titles and was MVP all there times, 3 college titles and college player of the year 3 time. 6NBA titles 2 different teams 6 MVP played 20 years witch means he was very durable and played on 19 all star games and all defensive team 11 times witch along with his rebounding and block shot get over looked, by the way he is first all time in scoring but very body knows that. What the dint know is he is third all time in rebounding and block shots. Sure Russell won 11 titles but everyone knew that he always had a better supporting cast. Wilt was the most dominant player ever it's not even close and anyone who dares to say Shaquille obviously never saw Wilt play Arnold Schwarzenegger said Wilt was the strongest guy he ever worked out with if anyone would know it would be Arnold. So again take the emotions out one guy sais he didn't like Kareem because he was aloof well I got news for u so was Kobe and Jordan use to trash his teammates Mercifully. Nobody is hating on them. KAREEM JABBAR is the best ever on all levels of the game as a scorer defense, rebounding, block shots and durability. As we speak now no one comes close in all of those categories high school ,college and pros.
Bill, Wilt and MJ you can make the case for being the “greatest” of all time for their accomplishments and impact on the game. But Lebron is probably the best bball player ever.
Lets play a pickup game, you get first pick, you take Michael, i take magic, you take lebron, i take larry, you take.... Hold up! I got Magic AND Bird? GAME OVER!
You think Magic and Bird would beat Jordan and Lebron? Ok. So who's going to guard who? And also Bird is going to be in trouble as soon as he tries to put the ball on the floor.
I'd put Wilt #1. But the top-5 could be re-arranged to pretty much any order, and can be considered in the same tier: Wilt, Bill, Kareem, MJ, Lebron. I don't think anyone else has an argument for #1. I'd put Magic and Larry in their own tier at #6 and #7. Then there's a bunch of guys in the next tier, just to name a few: Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, Elgin, Oscar, Shaq... Durant and Giannis likely are in this tier when their careers are over too.
@@marykuettner752 I hate Lebron as much as anyone, but you have to admit he is in the conversation. 4x MVP, 4x Finals MVP, his team made the finals for 8 straight years including beating the 73-win Warriors. And in terms of longevity, he is the best 37-year old ever.
@@geoff1827 Kareem holds that title, Kareen was still making the playoffs every year. He didn't retire until he was 42. LeBron is a very good player and I don't hate him at all. However there are so many greats that most people haven't seen play. Most fans don't even have tape to youtube anything older than Bird and Magic. LeBron has a ton of weaknesses to go along with his strengths and thirty years from now I don't think he will be in the goat convo. Kobe was a great player but even now people aren't including him in the goat conversation as often as they used to. I am 65 and probably won't be here to see it but I think other players will come along to make people forget LeBron. His going to teams with other stars to play with weakens his case.
One of the major reasons Kareem excelled in the NBA was learning from Wilt when he was in H.S. and meeting Bill Russell. He was destined for greatness with those two as guides.
I've always looked at it in the same way as Kareem. There are era's of basketball and Kareem was the greatest of HIS era just like Bill, Wilt, Michael, and Lebron are the greatest of THEIR era's. Luka will possibly become the greatest of the next era.
@@earam88 Only way to solve that is to put them against each other 1on1 with all of them in their prime. Lebron and Jordan are easily eliminated. It comes down to Wilt, Kareem, The Dream and Russell.
In My opinion Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who was My Idol was always the Greatest of All-Time to Me! But I'm not going to dare and disrespect His response period! He played in this League for Twenty Seasons His Basketball Accomplishments are Stellar and the majority of NBA Fans disrespectfully don't acknowledge His Stellar Career! He was a Winner at every Level of Basketball Competition except maybe 🤔 in the Olympics I don't think He ever played in the Olympics but anyway to Me He was always the Greatest of All-Time! But whatever He says I'm going to Humbly Respect whatever He says! I think everyone else who never ever played in the NBA should do so as well! He played in this League for 20 Years and still holds the lead in All-Time Regular Season Points Scored! Held this Record for a long time! Amongst other NBA Records He possess! And for all of these Michael Jordan Fans to fix their Mouths 👄 to say He's better than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar! I find that Very Very Disrespectful!
@RageAgainstTheMavhineRageAgainstThe..no disrespect towards Kareem great career my #3 All-Time...Kareem had to 2 All-stars and 2 HOF's Jamaal (Silky)Wilkes and Adrian Dantley from 1976-1979 there were getting bounce out the playoffs can u expand that ,before Earvin Johnson got draftred..
Kareem never 3peated, He got swept by Moses lead 76ers fofofofo with Magic,Silky Wilkes,Bob Mcdoo,Cooper, 4 HOF's..did not win another Ring until Magic came on board..
@@anthonykyles4310 I don't need to expand on anything! If You listened to His answer that should explain it! It should explain everything! How many NBA Seasons have You ever played in and How many NBA Championships have You ever won? I already no the answer to that none! So like I said in so many words He's the NBA Legend He's the Expert who am I to disagree with Him! The only one I did not watch play was the Great Bill Russell! I watched Wilt and Kareem and the rest of the NBA Greats after them! I don't need to expand on anything! Your opinion is Your opinion! My opinion is My opinion! But I'm going to agree with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar period! He played in this NBA League for Twenty Years! And what pisses Me Off are these so-called Michael Jordan Fans who never seen all of the Greats play to challenge Me about My knowledge of Basketball! And when I say something like how could He be the Greatest Scorer and he couldn't pass Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Then someone comes up with this excuse Kareem played Twenty Seasons! That's not Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's fault! Michael Jordan has the same number of Championships as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6 but Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has the most NBA League MVP's of any Player 6 of them! And by the way I played Basketball and I don't know of anyone who has ever beaten another Team by themselves 1 on 5 or 1 Player against 5 Players! I'm just tired 😩 of the ignorant rhetoric and dogma that's spewed in the Sports Media on all Platforms! And I still don't care what anyone says! It's disrespectful for so called NBA Fans to say Michael Jordan is better than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or Bill Russell! But here's the same excuse they played in different Era's! Like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar said if You haven't seen all the Greats play from Russell on down in their Era You really don't have the knowledge to say who's the Greatest! So I'm going to Rock with what Kareem Abdul-Jabbar says Bill Russell was the only one I didn't watch play I was to young but I watched the rest of them so I can't say who's the Greatest! Michael Jordan played with at least 3 since You want to mention the HOF Player's Kareem played with! Oh one of the HOF Player's Jordan played with is Dennis Rodman someone they used to hate? And it amazes Me how Fake NBA Fans and Fake NBA Media propaganda always disrespectfully disregard Rodman's Career as a Detroit Piston a Two-Time NBA Champion before Jordan and Pippen! And other accolades He accomplished before He joined the Bull's!
guys. rly advice to you to read autobiography book by Chamberlain and u find your answer. no questions. only one true goat. WILT! no one close to him. no one!!! NE-VER! he not just a GOAT basketball player but one of the great athletes in world history. fact.
You can really only go by the era they played. Training and equipment became better over time. Even the teams they played on made a difference. All that said, Jordan is the GOAT.
Ask LeBron who he thinks the GOAT is😆😆 As much as I like MJ he did not change the game, he catapulted the game in the 90’s. Guys like Dr. J, Pistol Pete, Magic, they created something new that changed how the game is played. Guys like LeBron just fill stats. Even Steph Curry has a skill that changed the game.
He changed the game. It's just that the league catered to him and made it easier for him to dominate as opposed to other players where the rules were changed to stop them from dominating. Jordan doesn't admit this but he doesn't deny it either, which is why I think he cringes when he hears people calling him the goat. It's the guilt.
Jordan did not change the game? Jordan was doing things that many people today still couldn't do, and it's not Jordan's fault. Jordan was revolutionary but the things he was doing, only a few others could.
Kareem nailed it with his response! It could not have been said any better than what he said in this here video.
Kareem was certainly one of the Greats , kinda hard for me to say as I'm a longtime Sun's fan, his sky hook was irritatingly effective and accurate,
arguably, the most effective and un-guardable shot in basketball, although MJ's fadeaway has to be in the conversation.
No one could stop that sky hook.
a rare treat to see Kareem actually speak about basketball .
Kareem's sky hook is the most
Indefensible shot thus far, that's for sure !
Kareem tells it like it is. The goat question has no answer.
No he’s wrong on this, there’s a goat
@@bobbyd1632 Right. LeBron
@@YvngGoat_ How's Bron ahead of MJ, Kareem or Bill in your opinion? I mean for me Lebron has a moderately legitimate argument with Kareem and Bill but with MJ he doesn't really have an argument if you're being objective imo
@@bobbyd1632 who the fck are you tell him he's wrong ? did you know basketball more than the highest scorer of all time ?
@@SongofIceandTea yep I do believe that, there’s most definitely a goat when you’re being objective. Of course there’s subjective aspects in every analysis but almost every objective measure (with proper context) shows one guy is the goat
This is the GAOAT -- Greatest Answer Of All Time.
Such a humble man with six championships! Tells it like it is! Saw him play at the GWF walked right down to the floor and stood in Aww ... Magic was also a huge specimen! Love them both !
Bill and Wilt in the 60s, Kareem in the 70s, Bird and Magic in the 80s, MJ in the 90s after the 90s sports died.
Only you believe this
Add Dr. J to the 70s
Lay off the drugs
When Kareem talks, it's smart to listen.
Just a class act. Kareem exudes class!
He is an admitted racist, but yes, a great player.
@@capefearcapt4679
Agree !
Kareem hates white people.
Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Michael Jordan. NBA Mt Rushmore Aka GOAT MOUNTAIN.
Hakeem Olajuwon?
@@terrysamuels1387 so Goat Mt is interchangeable. I only listed it above in that order because it was by Era.
Bill and Wilt 1960s
Kareem 1970s and 1980s
Jordan 1990s
Either one of those 4 have solid argument to be named as the GOAT and at the peak of their games, they dominated like no one else ever had.
Then #5 and 6 is interchangeable with either Kobe or LeBron. They both are the greatest players we’ve seen in our modern generations.
#7-8 is Magic and Shaq. Greatest point guard ever and most dominant center aside from Wilt.
#9-10 Larry Bird and Tim Duncan for leaderships and fundamentals.
I’d probably put Hakeem at 11. Just barely out of the top 10.
@@zacqueeentertainment7336 i agree with list not in order tho but hakeem in bill out he was only on loaded teams more of a rodman type player
Altho I'm a big KAJ fan, it's hard to argue against your rankings
Yooo I think this ones it 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Best individual Wilt, best winner Russel best of both worlds MJ.
I can see this. Jordan wasn't as dominant as Wilt and doesn't have enough rings as MJ but has both to help. Sam Jones does have 10 rings though and was a good scorer lol
Intelligent, thoughtful, articulate and classy! I love Kareem for his humility and ability to explain why it’s truly unlikely that there ever will be a GOAT!
God bless Kareem!
Furthermore, this argument is an ongoing one that has been around for years. It’s been exacerbated recently by the megalomania of LeBron James claiming that he’s the GOAT!
I guess that is what when you don’t have anything more than a high school perspective!
Just listen to Kareem, Bill Russell, Michael Jordan and Wilt! When they speak you can hear educated mature individuals who do not look through a narrow lens but wider more well-rounded lifetime horizons.
Maybe someday LeBron will grow up!
blah blah blah
Larry Bird was the best basketball player in NBA history.
BIRD IS THE GOAT. 🐐
@@capitanfuturo594 LOL
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You don't know anything about basketball. LOL
If you knew, you would have "liked" my comment.
@@capitanfuturo594 I know plenty, but your comment just was not worth liking. Bird was awesome, but the best ever? LOL sorry had to laugh again.
Kareem was certainly one of the very brightest to have played the game
You are in the house Kareem 🏠 Thank You God Bless You 🙌
Kareem so classy thats why he is the goat
Very generous and kind, Kareem. We understand you can't answer this question truthfully, so I'll do it for you. YOU are the GOAT, the greatest ever, the once and future and forever King, however reluctant you are to claim your rightful crown.
Mike Thompson you are absolutely correct
@@MrBishop1954 Doc, Greatest high school player on greatest high school team ever. Greatest college player on greatest college team ever. Greatest player in NBA history on one of greatest NBA dynasties ever. A simply breathtaking number of awards and lifetime records and accomplishments -- his Wiki page is just plain scary -- that still don't capture his true dominance on the court...too bad he wasn't able to team with Magic and Showtime Lakers in his prime, might have broken Russell's record of 11 world championships.
Great Comments Gentlemen! 😃💯
Greatest of ALL time is tough to answer. But the greatest of a decade or a generation, is simpler to answer.
Yes and No.
60s: Russell (Team player); Wilt (individual player)
70s: Kareem
1a. Dr. J (ABA)
80s: Kareem, Bird, or Magic (take your pick)
90s: Jordan or The Dream
00s: Shaq, Kobe or Duncan
10s: Lebron
Imo. Subjective
@@sambeezy007 Yeah but I can agree to this list a lot easier and it's ok to list a top 3 I think for the 80s and perhaps the 2010s. Even though as incredible as the Dream was (certainly a top 10 still in my books), you got to give Michael the 90s without any question mark.
A true gentleman and great player
I love kareem abdul jambar answer, even MJ is uncomfortable with the whole debate and calling him the goat when he never played in a era with the shoulder he stands on, the whole 🐐 debate is ridiculous to him, MJ words.
MJ and Kareem isn't even on the same planet when it comes to the GOAT it's Kareem hands down.
@@MrBishop1954 that is why i say that the goat conversation is not relevant because it goes by era, there are players from the 60's that MJ has never come up against.
No doubt Wilt was the greatest “player” ever
Nah his foul shot is too much of a liability down the stretch to be the GOAT.
I believe he is the most dominant player in the paint but there is too much involved in basketball to call Wilt the greatest
20,000???
Who did he play against the outside of Russell?
@@charlesmarcus7864 Nate Thurmond. Willis Reed. Wes Unseld.
Some many GOATS, spectacular players w differing skill sets and strengths but Kareem was clearly the GOAT of all the GOATS.
Very well said captain.
GOAT per decade is the closest you can get.
Coming from one of the great ones . can not be said no better than that
Kareem is absolutely correct. We can say greatest by position but not of all time because you can't compare the athleticism of a PG & C...
Mad props for Kareem’s headphones. AKG Q701. Very nice
Kareem vs bron or Jordan, who wins?
Kareem played Dr J one on one, what happened?
Size does matter. I tell people the only way to solve this problem once and for all is to have a 1on1 tournament. And Lebron and Jordan are automatically eliminated. It comes down to Prime Wilt, Kareem, The Dream or Russell.
To me Kareem is the most accomplished player in basketball history at every level three city Championships at Power Memorial three time NCAA Basketball Championship three time Final Four Most Outstanding Player three time first team All American two time College player of the year (1967 1969) NBA 6 time Champion 6 time NBA MVP 2 time NBA Finals MVP retired in 1989 as the league's all time leading scorer and shot blocker 3rd all time in rebounding no one else comes close to those accomplishments.
If you are counting high school, college and NBA you might be right. As far as just the NBA goes, I am not sure I agree. Wilt was also a track star in college which may have taken away from basketball at that level. Anyway Wilt still holds over 60 NBA records even 50 years after he retired. Also they didn’t keep track of blocks in his time so there is a good possibility that Wilt would be above him on blocks. Wilt did have more rebounds in 14 years than Kareem did in 21 years. The finals MVP was no awarded until 1969 which means Wilt only had opportunity to win it a few years at the end of his career and Kareem had opportunity the whole 21 years of his career. Again the fact Wilt had over 70 NBA records when he retired and still holds 61 records 50 years after he retired puts him in the conversation as far as the NBA goes. Another player that could be in the conversation is Bill Russell. Another player that blocks were not recorded, the finals MVP did not exist during his career or who knows how many he would have been awarded, had more rebounds in a shorter time and won 11 championships in 13 years.
Rickey Cole Kareem is the GOAT without question nobody has the accomplishments he has from high school through to the NBA then Russell Wilt Magic Bird and Dr J had to put him in there because the league merger was because of one man that's Dr J yes that's the top six I saw all of them play
@@MrBishop1954 like I said if you are counting high school, college and NBA you are right. Nobody is ever going to accomplish what Kareem did when he led John Wooden’s Bruins. Bill Walton came close but I don’t think anyone will ever even get close to that again. Now I didn’t see Kareem in High school but I did see him at UCLA. I didn’t really see a lot of Russell and only the last 5 years of Wilt while he was a Laker. The only question for me is if you only count the NBA. Blocks were not a stat that was kept track of and there was no such thing as Finals MVP for the majority of Russell’s and Wilt’s careers. Wilt is basically the record book and Russell had 5 more championships. They both have more rebounds and both played 7 or 8 less years in the league. Finals MVP existed 1 year of Russell’s career and 5 years of Wilt’s. It existed the entire 21 years of Kareem’s career. Blocks were not recorded ever in Russell’s career and 1 year of Wilt’s while they were recorded for 17 years of Kareem’s. I don’t hold it against Russell and Wilt that they don’t have those stats or awards and Kareem does. Again if you count high school, college and NBA or even just College and NBA there is question the GOAT is Kareem but if you are just counting NBA I would have to disagree.
I concur
@@MrBishop1954 Kareem is not the goat, although he certainly is top 3 no question
Assess these points and if you’re objective you may see my view…
1. If the merger happened sooner Kareem has 4 RMVP (5 at most) Dr J has 1-2 of Kareem’s RMVP for sure
2. How is someone who’s not the finals MVP or his own teams best player 3 out of 6 chips going to compare to MJ with also 6 chips yet he was by far the best player all 6 times?
3. Now MJ and Kareem have very similar accomplishments both individual and team, although MJ has the slight edge - yet he did it in 5-6 fewer seasons - read that again MJ accomplished slightly more in 6 fewer seasons
Do those key facts adjust your take at all? I’m curious because they do for me
his answer just sounds like what would the goat answer sounds like
Ive always felt just like Kareem, theres just too many greats in the conversation to name any one player as the goat - for me im a HUGE Larry Bird fan, but like Kareem I have to say "...but what about Wilt, Russell, Jordan, and the list goes on. I think you might assemble a top five or more difficult a top three as a Mount Rushmore but even then someone is getting short changed.
Kareem was also asked that question on first take when Skip Bayless was on there, Cap said that it's one of those conversations where you go to the bar and have some chicken wings and beer and debate on it 😅
Wilt changed his generation and Kareem changed his and it`s safe to say that if you change your generation in a sport, you are the goat of that generation.
Look at Wilts numbers then you’ll realize the debate is over
They altered the game because of Wilt. That's all you need to know. A close 2nd would be Kareem. They changed the rules because of him in college(they banned dunking). They never changed the rules to try to reign in Jordan. In fact they relaxed the rules. Players like Jordan gained more rushing yards than Walter Payton.
Nail + Head = Facts
He is right, each era or decade has it great player who leads the play at the time in many and different ways......... As Kid to now I have read or watched from the late fifties to now the teams and players!!!!! Put Jordan in the 60's and they would eaten his lunch no finesse and the hand check he would never reach the basket like he did!!! Put Bird in the 2010 + and he would be a super star hitting 10 to 15 x 3's a game but put him in the 60's and they would place him under the basket and not let him shoot that far out.... So Just goes to show the era of ball!!!!!
Kareem so wise
Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, ... It's hard to pick a real GOAT.
ha....I would not include Lebron, but the rest of your list, yes.
One is not like the others
In my opinion, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the Greatest Scorer of All Time. His numbers do all the talking. Love Mike, Kobe, LeBron is not my guy but his dominance speaks for itself, but Cap is the Greatest.
WILT TOOK 12 YEARS TO BREAK 30.000 , JORDAN NEED ALMOST 15 , JABBAR 17 AND LEBRONZE 16.
WILT IS GOD
Yes great ball player.
Kareem looks great for his age
perspective from Kareem. Was fortunate to watch him play against some Piston teams for 2 bucks a game. Parking was 2 bucks also.
Kareem was, is, and probably will forever be the GOAT at the high school, college, AND professional levels. End. Of. Debate.
Bill Russell won 16 Championships in 19 years: Back-to-back State Championships as high school Junior/Senior; Back-to-back NCAA Championships with USF as Junior/Senior, with 55 game win streak, undefeated Senior year; Olympic Basketball Championship, average victory margin of 53 points, Russell was high scorer for the team; 11 NBA Championships in 13 years. Russell was as strong as Chamberlain, could leap like Michael Jordan, was as quick as a guard, had court awareness of Larry Bird, and blocked shots like no one before or since. Russell was 2-1 in Championships as Player-Coach. Russel once leaped OVER another player to slam, on a fast break. Russell PREFERRED to play defense and allow his teammates to score.
Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the greatest.
You have to love his answer! My name is Kareem in I’m not in that mess.
The greatest and most classy!
Kareem is the Goat
Kareem in the discussion, without any doubt. You can also make a case for Jordan, Magic, Wilt, Russell.
Wilt , Russell, Kobe , mike , Kareem
1. Wilt
2. Bill
3. MJ
4. Kareem
5. Magic/ Bird
1. MJ
2. Magic
3. Bird
4. Kareem
1. MJ
2. Bill
3. Kareem
4. Lebron
5. Magic/Bird
@@ghost3337 no Wilt on your top 5 goat? He's the only player who changed the rules on NBA because he's too good & unstoppable.. highest points in one game even though there is no 3 points ..
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1. Wilt
2. Russell
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Dr. J
Only reason I have these 5 over Jordan is because all 5 were team players and 1 was unfortunate to have only 2 good coaches to lead him the right way (Wilt).
You may ask why Dr. J? 1. He's my all time favorite. 2. He's the original Jordan and like Jordan revolutionized the game in the ABA but unlike Jordan brought a basketball challenge with him to the NBA the dunk contest.
We’ll said Capt!!!
Kareem, Larry, Magic etc are all great players.
MJ is the GOAT.
How about the herd of GOATS, i was lucky enough to watch the last 6 years of Kareem. Wilt-Russel-Kareem & keep adding
I agree wholeheartedly with Kareem. I think the GOAT conversation is ridiculous because in every instance I have witnessed it (by guys who never played pro ball) the players discussed are almost exclusively those who are currently playing or are early into retirement. There's no discussion of positions, of how the game has changed, or any number of peripheral aspects that would need to be part of the discussion. I will say something about Jordan though... I grew up with 4 years of season tickets to Syracuse basketball and football games. The bulls had an exhibition game at the Carrier Dome in the late '80's. Upon walking into the building there was an electricity that I could clearly feel that I never felt before or after in that building, and I am absolutely certain that it felt that way because MJ was in the building, and it wasn't the crowd because I was there an hour early to watch them warm up.
Classy response given that him and Wilt didn't like each other for years and I put Kareem and Wilt right up there for sure in Greatness who can really say who the Goat is
There's a reason why he's not enamored by Jordan, as well as many other greats.
el mejor ya sabe cuál es, Earl 'the goat' Manigault 💪🏻✌🏻
But we are COUNTING NBA AND COLLEGE BALL
NOT JUST BASKETBALL
He is totally on point.
The current debate on the GOAT seem to be only comparisons of James & Jordan, which isn't enough to determine THE GOAT, despite the tremendous legacies of both MJ & LJ.
Anyone saying Jordan is the goat is a drifter, especially when they stay reaching for reasons to defend his position while calling out flaws of other players to cover up being hypocrites
He is so humble! He gives kudos to many other's. Russell, Chamberlain, MJ. Unlike LeBron, KAJ does not call himself the GOAT.
If you ever had a discussion of who’s the greatest player after the age of 35, Kareem would absolutely be number 1 and it wouldn’t even be subjective. He was around 33 by the time he and Magic became teammates. The lakers 87-88 repeat Kareem was in his 80s, haha jk but he was around 40 at that time which is amazing.
LOVE Kareem, but LeBron is 37, so he's in the conversation for sure.
@@bpbatlaw Uh Lebron? Amongst best players ever over 35? He’s actually amongst the worst! He’s destroyed the lakers almost single-handedly.
@@averydaymond1560 Having grown up a UCLA fan, I loved Kareem throughout his career and he performed at a high level until he retired. Also, I don't know if you have seen his recent commentaries on various events, including the Will Smith fiasco, but he is articulate and insightful. I know that LeBron has failed in building a team and the last few years have not been what anyone wanted, but I just wanted to note that his statistics were impressive last year.
Kudos the Kareem, he has an uncanny wisdom about him in his answer about the GOAT in basketball, he mentions perspective and how no one saw Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell play so the current crop of players' perspective is skewed somewhat. Like he said, Wilt Chamberlain scored a 100 points in one game and averaged 50 points per game for an entire season. He could have kept on scoring but he decided it was best to let other players score so his assists went up. Kareem then sums up the interview with the athleticism of Jordan and James and says that is what the GOAT crowd is looking at.
I saw them all play I was born in 1954
He's so cerebral This video doesn't do his thinking justice. He played against a hard and I mean brutally rough time nowadays it's all 3 pointers. Different era like he said
the first name Kareem metions is Wilt closed case
Bill Russell won 16 Championships in 19 years: Back-to-back State Championships as high school Junior/Senior; Back-to-back NCAA Championships with USF as Junior/Senior, with 55 game win streak, undefeated Senior year; Olympic Basketball Championship, average victory margin of 53 points, Russell was high scorer for the team; 11 NBA Championships in 13 years. Russell was as strong as Chamberlain, could leap like Michael Jordan, was as quick as a guard, had court awareness of Larry Bird, and blocked shots like no one before or since. Russell was 2-1 in Championships as Player-Coach. Russel once leaped OVER another player to slam, on a fast break. Russell PREFERRED to play defense and allow his teammates to score.
Russell was not as strong as Wilt.
My name's Roger. I'm the co-pilot.
Kareem is so classy that he disses Michael and LeBron here ("spectacular athletes) without it sounding the least bit insulting.
Every player has his own opinion and people must respect that and every basketball fan must only support who ever they like. My GOAT is MJ but I will not force others to support him, they are entitle to their own opinions and choices of stars in NBA. Kareem is right that NBA is a game that came through different eras with the rules changing with time. Early times had different stars who played under different rules and the stars who came after. NBA's popularity reached fever pitch in the 1980s and 1990s that was the era the game was televised globally and people really appreciated the game and the stars. After that, players are playing for their money and not the love of the game and basketball lost its popularity at the world stage. The goat debate is one way of NBA trying make the game popular again.
I would vote for you, Big Fella, because I saw you play for many years. But of course, I am biased too because I didn't see so many of the all-time greats before you, or pay close attention to the current or more recent stars.
i really thought he was gonna say jordan and since, i am a fan of the NBA i do have some idea who is the goat in my opinion wilt was the best player in basketball history in that era there was no three point line so when i was a child and heard that i was like "gosh i didint knew that somone could score a 100 points in a game" so thats my opinion about the "who is the goat" question
I think the the Goat debate is a waste of time just enjoy the game
This is a passive aggressive response
Stop bill was part of a dynasty
You can do GOAT by decade. All time? Only 6 rises to the surface and only 3 can be judged from those six. The Big 6 being: Bill Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Bird and Jordan. Big 3 from that: Bill, Kareem, Mike. In my humble opinion, Kareem is the GOAT.
How can you have a GOAT by decade? That is literally impossible.
@@ThatGuyz82 Well, the best player in each decade. I wrote "GOAT", but I wasn't thinking; it was impulsive. I stand corrected 👍🏾
Everyone has their own opinions
Kareem without a doubt is the GOAT!
I’m going with Wilt.
Yes,when you'd greatest basketball player.We are no talking just NBA. It's hands down that from HS to the pros that Lou Al Kareem us the greatest even in the world. He did in BB heaven NY,he did it in cold Midwest,Buck's He did it in Los Angeles, Cali, PLEASE !
You're disrespecting him by calling him his slave name
*WILT CHAMBERLAIN IS THE REAL GOAT.* 🐐
Larry Bird is the second.
I don't disagree. MJ resume stands out though
The bigger question is, who is the greatest coach of all time?
Red is the greatest GM anyway
It’s a shame that Jabbar never faced Wilt before his bad knee injury.
Who is the GOAT. Jordan, Chamberlin and Kareem. In no particular order. And yes I saw all three.
Gotta add Russell to that list and that's it. They are the Mount Rushmore of basketball.
@@JayCity10 15ppg on 44% fg for his career, as a center.
So... many greats, but when someone calls there own self the goat, there's some issues there
No question about it, l've watched them all from Wilt, Russell,Baylor, Big O, West, to Hakeem, DR.J, Pistol Pete, Moses Malone, Gervin to Shaq, Kobe, Carl Malone, lsiah Thomas, Jordan now LeBron, Durant, Kyrie, Curry, Gennis. And no one and I do mean no one come close to Lewis Ferdinand Alcindor/ Kareem Abdul Jabbar at every level, he was the best High School Player Ever (Power Memorial
Best College Player Ever(UCLA) Best Pro Ever( Bucks & Lakers) The comments the previous guy wrote can not be refuted because it's all facts. I was the Laker ball boy in 1970 so again I have seen alot of these guys up close at there Best. I'm more than a sports fan, l'm a student of sports a ser'vante. Add James Nathaniel Brown S the greatest football player,Yes over Emmett and Barry, Bret, Johnny U, Paul Horning, Lawrence TAylor, Dick Butkus, Jerry Rice, Montana, Peterson and Dickinson. For baseball I would give the nod to Henry Aaron over Willie Mays but not by much...Had Mays played in Atlanta instead of San Francisco he would have hit 800 home runs and so would Josh Gibson. With no Disrespect to Reggie Jackson Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Walter Johson, Bob Feller, Roberto Clemente, Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax, Mickey Mantle or my favorite player Teddy Ballgame Theodore Williams. ALL were Great but Hank and Willie were better the numbers never ever lie. Of course in Hockey there o ly one name it's not Mark Messier, Bobby Orr, Bobby Hull, Gordon Howe, Alex Ovietchkin, Sidney Crosby or Super Mario. The of the best is simply called the GREAT ONE I need not elucidate more. When comparing these great players do it by the numbers again numbers never lie when u put in the right formula.🏈⚾️🏀🏒
I agree. The numbers do not lie. They are not subjective. Wilt stands alone. Jab bar is not even top 5 by the numbers. Wilt. 30/23 for his career. No one else did that for even one year.
I never saw him in high school but from what I have heard there is no argument there. Nobody is ever going to match or beat his accomplishments while on John Wooden’s Bruins. Bill Walton came close but nobody will even get close again. So again no argument there. As far as pros go I disagree. Wilt is basically the record book. He had over 70 records and still holds 61 fifty years after he retired. Bill Russell has 5 more championships. Both have more rebounds. Both played 7 to 8 fewer years than Kareem. Kareem does have more points but he also played 21 years as opposed to 13 and 14 of Russell and Wilt. He has more blocks and Finals MVP awards but that is because blocks were not recorded ever during Russell’s career and only 1 year of Wilt’s and finals MVP existed one year during Russell’s career and 5 of Wilt’s. Finals MVP has been in existence Kareem’s entire career and blocks were recorded for 17 years of it. For this reason you cannot hold it against Russell or Wilt that Kareem has more blocks and Final MVP awards. Kareem is definitely near the top as far as NBA goes but I don’t think is the top player ever. I would put Wilt and Russell above him. As far as your list of greats the only name that I truly believe does not belong is Lebron. No question that he is a very physically gifted athlete and has a lot of accomplishments in the NBA. I just believe he is an overrated stat packer and a cancer to any team he is on. I also believe that any stars on his team play the worst of their careers while on his team. This can not be a coincidence.
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I saw them all play also and it's Kareem then Russell he won in college too University of San Francisco and was player coach for the Boston Celtics and won a championship nobody else has done that
Again Kareem won 3 high school titles and was MVP all there times, 3 college titles and college player of the year 3 time. 6NBA titles 2 different teams 6 MVP played 20 years witch means he was very durable and played on 19 all star games and all defensive team 11 times witch along with his rebounding and block shot get over looked, by the way he is first all time in scoring but very body knows that. What the dint know is he is third all time in rebounding and block shots. Sure Russell won 11 titles but everyone knew that he always had a better supporting cast. Wilt was the most dominant player ever it's not even close and anyone who dares to say Shaquille obviously never saw Wilt play Arnold Schwarzenegger said Wilt was the strongest guy he ever worked out with if anyone would know it would be Arnold. So again take the emotions out one guy sais he didn't like Kareem because he was aloof well I got news for u so was Kobe and Jordan use to trash his teammates Mercifully. Nobody is hating on them. KAREEM JABBAR is the best ever on all levels of the game as a scorer defense, rebounding, block shots and durability. As we speak now no one comes close in all of those categories high school ,college and pros.
lol spectacular athletes
wilt point scoring, russell championships but who are the few who all the individual and team accolades, did it on both ends etc etc
The best he ever seen play was earl the goat manigault.
Earl Manny Goat
Bill, Wilt and MJ you can make the case for being the “greatest” of all time for their accomplishments and impact on the game. But Lebron is probably the best bball player ever.
WHY?
Lets play a pickup game, you get first pick, you take Michael, i take magic, you take lebron, i take larry, you take.... Hold up! I got Magic AND Bird? GAME OVER!
🤣 you lost automatically assuming those two would automatically win in the lineup
I take Bird over Lebron, sorry.
You think Magic and Bird would beat Jordan and Lebron? Ok. So who's going to guard who? And also Bird is going to be in trouble as soon as he tries to put the ball on the floor.
I'd put Wilt #1. But the top-5 could be re-arranged to pretty much any order, and can be considered in the same tier: Wilt, Bill, Kareem, MJ, Lebron. I don't think anyone else has an argument for #1. I'd put Magic and Larry in their own tier at #6 and #7. Then there's a bunch of guys in the next tier, just to name a few: Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, Elgin, Oscar, Shaq... Durant and Giannis likely are in this tier when their careers are over too.
Lol LeBron. He is one of the greatest athletes not so much greatest players.
@@marykuettner752 I hate Lebron as much as anyone, but you have to admit he is in the conversation. 4x MVP, 4x Finals MVP, his team made the finals for 8 straight years including beating the 73-win Warriors. And in terms of longevity, he is the best 37-year old ever.
@@geoff1827 Kareem holds that title, Kareen was still making the playoffs every year. He didn't retire until he was 42. LeBron is a very good player and I don't hate him at all. However there are so many greats that most people haven't seen play. Most fans don't even have tape to youtube anything older than Bird and Magic.
LeBron has a ton of weaknesses to go along with his strengths and thirty years from now I don't think he will be in the goat convo. Kobe was a great player but even now people aren't including him in the goat conversation as often as they used to. I am 65 and probably won't be here to see it but I think other players will come along to make people forget LeBron.
His going to teams with other stars to play with weakens his case.
High School, College & Pros.....Russell or Jabbar
I respect Kareem for saying wilts name . They where not the best of friends.. respect. Wilt kobe Mike. Say it with me
One of the major reasons Kareem excelled in the NBA was learning from Wilt when he was in H.S. and meeting Bill Russell. He was destined for greatness with those two as guides.
They actually were best friends when they first met, until they had beef when kareem entered the NBA, they made up though before wilt died
I've always looked at it in the same way as Kareem. There are era's of basketball and Kareem was the greatest of HIS era just like Bill, Wilt, Michael, and Lebron are the greatest of THEIR era's. Luka will possibly become the greatest of the next era.
deep down we all know, there has to be a THE BEST
@@earam88 Only way to solve that is to put them against each other 1on1 with all of them in their prime. Lebron and Jordan are easily eliminated. It comes down to Wilt, Kareem, The Dream and Russell.
I don’t particularly like Kareem but I have to say he was pretty classy here.
Wilt
In My opinion Kareem Abdul-Jabbar who was My Idol was always the Greatest of All-Time to Me! But I'm not going to dare and disrespect His response period! He played in this League for Twenty Seasons His Basketball Accomplishments are Stellar and the majority of NBA Fans disrespectfully don't acknowledge His Stellar Career! He was a Winner at every Level of Basketball Competition except maybe 🤔 in the Olympics I don't think He ever played in the Olympics but anyway to Me He was always the Greatest of All-Time! But whatever He says I'm going to Humbly Respect whatever He says! I think everyone else who never ever played in the NBA should do so as well! He played in this League for 20 Years and still holds the lead in All-Time Regular Season Points Scored! Held this Record for a long time! Amongst other NBA Records He possess! And for all of these Michael Jordan Fans to fix their Mouths 👄 to say He's better than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar! I find that Very Very Disrespectful!
@RageAgainstTheMavhineRageAgainstThe..no disrespect towards Kareem great career my #3 All-Time...Kareem had to 2 All-stars and 2 HOF's Jamaal (Silky)Wilkes and Adrian Dantley from 1976-1979 there were getting bounce out the playoffs can u expand that ,before Earvin Johnson got draftred..
Kareem never 3peated, He got swept by Moses lead 76ers fofofofo with Magic,Silky Wilkes,Bob Mcdoo,Cooper, 4 HOF's..did not win another Ring until Magic came on board..
@@anthonykyles4310 I don't need to expand on anything! If You listened to His answer that should explain it! It should explain everything! How many NBA Seasons have You ever played in and How many NBA Championships have You ever won? I already no the answer to that none! So like I said in so many words He's the NBA Legend He's the Expert who am I to disagree with Him! The only one I did not watch play was the Great Bill Russell! I watched Wilt and Kareem and the rest of the NBA Greats after them! I don't need to expand on anything! Your opinion is Your opinion! My opinion is My opinion! But I'm going to agree with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar period! He played in this NBA League for Twenty Years! And what pisses Me Off are these so-called Michael Jordan Fans who never seen all of the Greats play to challenge Me about My knowledge of Basketball! And when I say something like how could He be the Greatest Scorer and he couldn't pass Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Then someone comes up with this excuse Kareem played Twenty Seasons! That's not Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's fault! Michael Jordan has the same number of Championships as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6 but Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has the most NBA League MVP's of any Player 6 of them! And by the way I played Basketball and I don't know of anyone who has ever beaten another Team by themselves 1 on 5 or 1 Player against 5 Players! I'm just tired 😩 of the ignorant rhetoric and dogma that's spewed in the Sports Media on all Platforms! And I still don't care what anyone says! It's disrespectful for so called NBA Fans to say Michael Jordan is better than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or Bill Russell! But here's the same excuse they played in different Era's! Like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar said if You haven't seen all the Greats play from Russell on down in their Era You really don't have the knowledge to say who's the Greatest! So I'm going to Rock with what Kareem Abdul-Jabbar says Bill Russell was the only one I didn't watch play I was to young but I watched the rest of them so I can't say who's the Greatest! Michael Jordan played with at least 3 since You want to mention the HOF Player's Kareem played with! Oh one of the HOF Player's Jordan played with is Dennis Rodman someone they used to hate? And it amazes Me how Fake NBA Fans and Fake NBA Media propaganda always disrespectfully disregard Rodman's Career as a Detroit Piston a Two-Time NBA Champion before Jordan and Pippen! And other accolades He accomplished before He joined the Bull's!
Thank you Kareem! What makes Jordan the greatest, pretty sneakers?
MJ no questions.
guys. rly advice to you to read autobiography book by Chamberlain and u find your answer. no questions. only one true goat. WILT! no one close to him. no one!!! NE-VER! he not just a GOAT basketball player but one of the great athletes in world history. fact.
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You can really only go by the era they played. Training and equipment became better over time. Even the teams they played on made a difference. All that said, Jordan is the GOAT.
Ask LeBron who he thinks the GOAT is😆😆
As much as I like MJ he did not change the game, he catapulted the game in the 90’s. Guys like Dr. J, Pistol Pete, Magic, they created something new that changed how the game is played. Guys like LeBron just fill stats. Even Steph Curry has a skill that changed the game.
He changed the game. It's just that the league catered to him and made it easier for him to dominate as opposed to other players where the rules were changed to stop them from dominating. Jordan doesn't admit this but he doesn't deny it either, which is why I think he cringes when he hears people calling him the goat. It's the guilt.
Jordan did not change the game? Jordan was doing things that many people today still couldn't do, and it's not Jordan's fault. Jordan was revolutionary but the things he was doing, only a few others could.
@@younglove3362 Can you explain how did the league cater to him and made it easier for him to dominate?