Lithium: an unexpected journey | Ben Lillie | TEDxNewYork
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2015
- This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
Why are there two rock songs about lithium but none about, say, beryllium? In a talk at once funny, profound, and educational, Ben Lillie weaves a tale about the origin of the mysterious element we know as lithium.
Ben Lillie is a former particle physicist and the director of The Story Collider, a live series that features true stories about science. - Věda a technologie
I love this talk but, also, as a lithium user, I feel the need to clarify that it doesn't alter our personality, just our mood. We're still the same people.
You're very attractive Erica, I know I know what does your looks have to do with lithium orotate. 😉
Sorry to bother you... But I'm dealing with alot and I've tried alot to help.. I was told about Lithium.. what side effects did you notice? I want to talk to my doc about, just need somthing to help silence the mental noise..
@@joeboxernum31 lithium is gonna be great for you. It really quiets depressive thoughts, makes you calmer. It saved my life. Once your mind is better, the side effects are not gonna be that hash
Dang.
Yeah.. this sentence is way more deep than it seems to be
I'm taking lithium as of today, I came here expecting something different but I was pleasantly surprised by content that made me feel less like a broken person who needed to be "adjusted" and more like a creature simply interacting with it's surroundings.
Broken lost depeessed after 2 months on lithium
@@larasalem3042 sorry to hear that Lara. How you been holding up for the past 6months?
@@larasalem3042 Hope you're better now.
felt the same
I am from kathmandu nepal and was depressed for 3 years with acute pannic attacks. After lithium carbonate 300 mg intake i got a new life. My mood became better and i am fine now, 🙏🙏
Thank you for sharing!! 🙏 I’m about to try it out.
I take lithium for bipolar and it stops my mood swings and dimension shifting to places rife with negative spirits which both decimate my life to no end.
Mrholmes008 hi bro i just started lithium after trying some others that didn’t work but in this one I have faith is good to know that lithium really works for you
properly described
@@katieduthie3349 then just take shrooms or smoke weed while taking lithium too. Lithium is a nutrient, period
First, he reminds me of Leonard from The Big Bang Theory. And second, who else is bipolar?
Edit: FYI I'm 99 percent sure I wrote this when I was manic.
Me! And my name's also Natalie. haha
Lithium is miracle
That's what brought me here! I was researching my medication and found this.
my husband too
Bi Polar here and on Lithium...
Thank you so much for this concise and to the point presentation. That was years of education blasted at us in 11 minutes and I feel wiser having listened to it.
This is the best description of his talk.
So many intelligent people around ready to share their education and views. One of the best I’ve heard to date.
This is actually one of the MOST USEFUL TED Talks I have ever come across- it shows how Universe and Self are two sides of the same coin- and matter in its various forms are so biocentric. Lithium by its very nature and effects is a true epitome for that which underlines this syllogism-from the way it transforms human beings' personalities viscerally, to its Big Bang origins - everything is so fascinating about Li and he brings it out so very eloquently. I found a deeply spiritual meaning that connects modern chemistry with ancient mysticism in this talk.
So tell me, what do you identify as other than pretentious?
Jayakrishnan Nair, beautifully said. For those of us who deal with bipolar disorder, philosophical answers or perspectives are as important as physiological treatments.
you better be on drugs for saying that.
Jayakrishnan Nair
Yes, exactly.
Science and Spirituality, are all one in the same.
Go_Away
Not pretentious, pretentious is Billy Eyelash and trying to appear better than others, “fake deep” void of anything, this was just a very deep eye opening Ted Talk, some can relate, others can’t.
He's excellent! Covers so much in so little time, and funny too.
There are 168 people out there that are pretty confused because of......ah... quantum mechanics
Lithium is Life changing ❤️....I discovered it 30 years too late
I think I'll continue to be treated with CBD. I just got CBD products from Weedborn and I feel much better now: D
lithium keeps me out of the hospital.
Lithium is really cool in how it wants to act like sodium & potassium but can't quite do it. It will react furiously in water but mostly never explodes (sodium & potassium = different story). If you hold a match to it it'll burn the brightest red you've ever seen. Then toss it in water after it's on fire it's the only alkali metal that dances into fragments as those fragments explode into smaller and brighter red sparks it acts nothing like sodium or potassium. Just the way it reacts with water & other salts, it's unique energy being close to hydrogen, something about what it does to the brain is fundamentally balancing it needs more & better research spread across more salts. I don't know but I suspect that big pharma funds a couple lithium salts it knows are more dangerous since the safer salts people may realize both its effects but also how easy it is to make. Free lithium and acids are everywhere in all markets across all societies.
Robert Cece
Lithium Carbonate is what big pharma pushes, Lithium Orotate is the much cheaper, healthier, and easily available and bioavailable version of that.
“I’m so happy, cause today I found my friends, they’re in my head”
Adam all my friends are in my head
My friends are not in my head never have been they are spirits from another dimension which I cross when not on lithium.
That's cute Adam
As I'm not a scientist, I didn't fully understand the technicalities of everything... However, I enjoyed his passion and I learnt a little something more!
Why does lithium have such an influence on our "personality"? Why do potassium, magnesium, B vitamins, etc.? Simply because we involved amid these compounds/elements. They were in the food we ate, so they became necessary for our wellbeing. That's evolution. Since we get less lithium, magnesium, potassium in our food in the 21st century than we did a long time ago, our mental and physical health suffers. So YES, of course these substances help our mental and physical health. There is no mystery about this.
There's a drop in depression in populations with more lithium in their water supply. The effect is dose dependent which makes that fact even more relevant. Lithium is actually needed in the body for certain biological processes. You can get low dose lithium at the health food store.
lovely talk :) - i dont like the word choice of "changes personality" - lithium dosnt change your personality, it controls moods. but i guess that is just splitting hairs.
WiggersART plux tell me more doctor
Are you bipolar and have you taken luthium? I am and it do was sent sound like you know too much about it. Sounds like something big pharma teaches its legal life destroying drug dealers.
@@kennithbrowning7236 That was not English. Please find help. Are you okay? Sure? Please switch of your Central Scrutinizer. Everything you type is checked and scrutinized into utter weirdness.
This was awesome! Such passionate scientist and and amazing speaker!
Ina Gutowska
For sure
Informative talk . Thank you, bless you, All your dreams come true.
Starting lithium tonight. Wish me luck guys.. It's going to be a journey.
awesome keep us posted! im thinking of trying it this week
Results? I got sleepy and now I feel good and balanced and more social....
So...lithium is a gift from the "great beyond". Great. If you are religious you can call it heaven sent. If you are not then maybe it contains magical curative powers from another Galaxy. Or.....or.....oh wait. I forgot to take my lithium. Again. The joys of hypomanic insomnia. Great presentation.
The substance that's supposed to be in our natural spring water.
I only take 1200mg of lithium carbonate but I'm pretty sure I have the same personality, pretty mellow moods though.
This was a brilliant talk. Thank you Ben Lillie. 👍🏼
huge props to this guy
He's telling a story. His science is very simplified. A basic Hydrogen atom is just a proton. But, protons can turn into neutrons in nuclear fusion. You take 1H (a hydrogen with mass 1, so 0 neutrons) and combine it with another 1H and you get 2H (a hydrogen with mass 2, so 1 neutron) Then, you can add another 1H to your 2H and get either 3He or 3H. And then your 3He might get another 1H to become 4He, or it might get combine with a 4He to form 7Li. That's lithium, some amount of it is being made in our star from Proton-proton II chain reaction. At temperatures where fusion takes place, one of the protons in lithium is going to want to decay into beryllium which if it continues on the Proton-proton II chain reaction will end up turning into two helium atoms. That's probably what he meant when he said that lithium 'melts' away in the sun. Some of that lithium will find itself out to the colder regions of the sun before anything happens to it. So, some of our lithium is indeed stardust, but enough of it is formed from the other fusion methods that he describes that he's not really wrong. He's simplifying the science to tell a story.
Luke Davidson what? Start again at "He's" please.
Brilliant and profound
It causes irreversible kidney damage with long term use
👀
That was *awesome!* Now if I could only understand what he was talking about.
Haha
Great Post!!!
when talked about songs about Lithium at the beginning, I thought about this one ----> Ghost in the shell ending song "Lithium Flower".
Just to be clear, his talk was a philosophical journey most profound for a TED Talk. Well done Ben, for explaining lithium.
If I did not think about lithium, I will not be watching this video right now.
I typed "Lithium in universe" in search box to see what I might learn more.
Yes! We exist.
If more people thought like you we could cure so much and do more. 👍🏽 i wish we was in a think tank.
I felt like the big bang began when you walked on stage
Great talk!
I have made a huge mistake in the way I explain the joy of the stellar nuclear fusion process. I rushed it to get to the end. That is pretty sage for the other bits of my life.
Nice talk! For some of us, lithium - in the form of BuLi or LDA - is pretty familiar. "Us" is a group among the bunch of low-energy physicists, otherwise known as organic chemists ;)
+Klaus Warzecha I have had no success finding reliable studies of lithium orotate. There's anecdotal info about its superiority to carbonate, etc. I would very, very much appreciate pointers to studies on the orotate carrier for lithium. Thank you if you have the time. Barbara
I subscribe to consumer lab.com which might be the only entity that independently reviews supplements and the like. Recently they had answers about lithium orotate (cautions have to be taken with any form of lithium in sufficient doses.)
Look for studies at pub-med and Medline, both very handy resources
who started the reaction.
Any possibility to use Lithium orotate instead of Lithium carbonate for battery? 🤯
It didn't helped me at all but I still listend till the end.
Love lithium by evanescence
Hi I am on Lithium for bipolar 2. Evened me out by 75 % no side effects. I feel like a battery that needs Litium.
I suppose I run on star dust.
does it help with the BP2 Depression? Im in my depressed cycle now, hoping to be on lithium when I meet my Dr this Friday.
@@tanakkusai hi Isiah I am bipolar 2 and I find Lithium 75% effective. Its like you go over road bumps with an occasional large one rather than stuck on the roller coaster. I have no adverse symptoms such as hand tremble and stomach upset. Im happy with my medicine. Nothing is perfect and there is as yet no cure. Take Lithium its better than some other scary meds. I stopped one that zombiefied me and my her fell out in clumps. Dont be afraid take Lithium but I couldnt reccommend any other drug. Big hug
Yo Teddies, you can you please upload this one also to Facebook Video? Lithium to the people..
Amazing.
everything is connected
Yea… I’ve never experienced any of this. I just don’t get as depressed!
90% of these people understood nothing but they still clapped
I can explain how lithium works. The reason people dont know is because they havnt learnt about orgone energy orchi. Or prana. Lithium the lightest metal on the periodic scale. When metal like lithium enters the body and the brain it attracts orgone energy.the mantle of energy or orgone repairs rebalances does lots of things to the physical. We in essence are life force. Which lithium attracts. Life force has its own knowledge. And may not be logical. Where in lies the problem to understand it. Using logical means.
I wish I was there when you talking believe me
Very good talk!
Any experience with carbonate vs. orotate?
done lith-orotate a week and feel super awsome,
It starts here:
7:29
Holy Lithium this was great! fuckkkk what a mindfuck
The Skeler remix of Lithium by Evanescence is what brought me here.
In mexico (sonora)they found lithium mine is been said that is bigger than Bolivia's
I was studying bipolar disorder and ended up being here!
polar warriors, Dr Ramini ,med circle.
very solid informative suggestions to continue your research in bi polar spectrum.
not sure what the takeaway from this talk is
It should be Argon, not Aragorn in the CC at ca. 5:50.
Just prescribed lithium. Anyone get relief from lithium for bipolar2? And what did you notice it helping with early on?
Seeking for help..
My bestie thinks she is suffering from bipolar...this hasn't been confirmed yet by a specialist though...but the symptoms are quite similar...
She has had a major depressive phase..which lasted for more than an year... during which she took the most extreme step too but was fortunately saved...this was a few months back...
But she's quite stable now.. in terms of having suicidal thoughts...
Currently the thing is that her emotions aren't in her control...sometimes she just cries and cries literally for hours without any reason..and experiences severe headache too..
Also, there are a lot of mood swings...At a particular instant she will be very depressed, numb and cold..won't talk with anybody...and on the very same day after a few hours or on the next day she will be highly energetic and excited...
Now the issue is that first of all we are in our teenage only....still at such a tender age too she is giving the best possible fight....
Secondly she hasn't informed her parents about her current symptoms for multiple reasons...as far as I have understood..the reason is she is a bit afraid of getting treated...and also she believes that if she will inform her parents then out of concern they'll start invading her privacy which she has been given currently...
Another issue is that for some reasons neither can I inform them...
I have been trying to convince her about informing her parents and seeking for professional help.. but she says she wants to wait..
Also..for some reasons I can't even meet her frequently...and worse...I will be going far away from her to another city in a few days..
So basically I stand almost helpless... one thing is for sure that professional help is absolutely necessary or else the condition might worsen...
I don't know what to do and the only thing I could think of is seeking help through such platforms...
I would be really very grateful if any professional or past sufferer can make me understand that how can I convince her for seeking professional help and also that how should I behave in her manic and low epsiodes so that I don't worsen the condition....
I'm starting lithium tonight. How's your journey so far??
@@VeraCasaca
Yes, for me a massive difference. I have Biploar 2, started it 18 months ago, has made an amazing difference. Lows are much less and not so long, a few weeks, as opposed to months. The highs are gone. Wish you well, Claire
I take orotate and would like to hear how carbonate performs in comparison
I also think it’s a myth that Lithium for bipolar treatment is that great. If it was I’d still be on it. It simply didn’t work for me
I am Bipolar-I but do not take lithium. I only had one manic episode, and I stopped it saying to myself, "calm calm down". I happen to have the strongest will power that any one has.
this talk was awesome!
"Bing Bang" "Quantum physics" *LOL*
In a daze 'cause I found TED.
The last freakin' thing I wanted was Carl Sagan with whoopi doo philosophy.
A fairy tale, how fun!
Lithium Orotate!
Amen!
I’m on lithium to stop me from going into a manic episode grant cardone said that lithium carbonate when it goes into the blood stream it slows you down how can I surge in life if lithium is slowing me down?
lithium lithium but sounds good....
I scrolled down all the way, even saw the haters comment and hate. Poor souls lol
Mensa?
This lecture has made me feel very depressed. Man this is really messed up. Where is he getting his info from regarding Lithuim. ???
Michael Kuntz He’s a Physicist.
Interesting how when he talked about where lithium can be found, despite later comments about world politics and colonialism and such, he chose to list Bolivia, Chile and Argentina, but not Afghanistan ;-)
Dᴏᴡʟᴘʜɪɴ Is it found in Afghanistan?
I've taken it in carbonate form for bipolar disorder before - some like it.. it makes me feel very 'blah'..but less impulsive and think more about why I'm doing something or if I should. Some actually think it's a trace nutrient we're mostly missing.
Dᴏᴡʟᴘʜɪɴ Also for what it's worth it's much MORE anti-manic and much LESS anti-depressing in it's effect. It is however one of the only if not the only medication which acutely reduces suicidality.
+Frater Tenc It can prevent depression from starting though.
Frater Tenc
Sounds about right I guess. Psychiatry is mostly driven by the mind's control issues anyway. Lack of heart gets insecure in the presence of unrestrained joy, but is satisfied when the subject is sedated. It's a very deep and widespread psychological issue, and from my own experiences somewhat in the direction of bipolar I can say that it might, at least in some cases, just be a symptom, a reflection, of the sickness in society. I can get immensely passionate because I allow myself to be deeply inspired by some things, and then I get miserable and depressed when I again and again receive negative reaction from insecure people who try to suppress it because it reminds them too much of their own suppressed happiness. And that response can sink in just as deeply as the joyful inspiration.
Summed up: twitter.com/Dowlphin/status/665716976950620160
That is interesting of the studies even recent ones on municipal water supplies that are in those cities having a much lower rate of murder and suicide!
Castle Bravo bomb ,1954 , used lithium 6 + 7
Why is he presenting this serious subject like a comedian
I thought he was going to tell something helpful about Lithium.
+Johnny Salter Savage.
Well it said unexpected story so why did you have an expectation?
He did. You weren’t listening.
😂😂😂😂😂 same here
Johnny Salter
Something you’d need to probably listen to a few times to fully grasp, and you might never grasp it fully honestly.
More so “wow the universe is crazy.”
A super nova is not the brightest thing in the universe a quasar is.
Now there is a Cl song too 😋... OK
please proceed with your talk.
At least 20% of patients on prolonged lithium treatment develop chronic kidney disease and end-stage renal disease. It also can wreak havoc on the thyroid.
You are talking about high dose lithium. Not lithium oratate at recommended doses.
averat84
LITHIUM CARBONATE, that’s extremely high dose and not even properly absorbed to be beneficial...
LITHIUM OROTATE AT RECOMMENDED ANS THERAPUTIC DOSES is fine.
I have been on 900mg of Lithium for 8 years. From the beginning, my psychiatrist thoroughly educated me on how to avoid kidney problems. At 60, I remain in good health. However, Hypothyroidism developed, which requires daily medication.
Only at very high doses. Everything in excess is harmful.
I AM MEDICATION RESISTANT. I AM DIAGNOSED BP 1 (mixed) in addition to GAD-PTSD & ADHD . I AM SUFFERING. LITHIUM I HAVE NOT TRIED & IM NOT EXCITED TO REALLY.
Have hope, ask your Dr. if Lithium will align with your treatment.
It's a lecture similar to the nature of Lithium. .
He admits we know nothing about consciousness, been the boldly claims that we're only nothing more than brain matter.
wauw, schitterend
Lithium is in many things that grow on earth just like oysters have zinc!
Lithium carbonate is far safer than the mood stabilizer lithium
Because it blocks calcium
A supernova isn´t the brithesht on universe its a quasar!
+Ned4Games A supernova can outshine a galaxy, but only for a short time.
The brightest objects of all are gamma ray bursts but, as the name suggests, they are very brief.
The whole idea of the Big Bang is sooooooo much hypothesis. None of it has been observed and quite frankly the highest thing you could categorize it as is philosophy of science
Too much background on elemental evolution and connectivity. Would have liked to hear more about Li+3 and impact on mental health other than helps highs and lows of bipolar. Sounded like a scientific PhD talk.
The guy from nirvana committed suicide whilst on lithium
he was not on Lithium. Never was.
He was murdered and I believe one day all the truths will be known. If I'm wrong, all apologies.
Nope..he didnt take his meds
I am amazed. He speaks as though he saw it happen and was measuring the chemical compositions of the different parts of the universe as it was proceeding. I always tell my grandkids, "Ask yourself 'What did they actually see?' If they didn't see it then they are just making it up."
Well I hope your grandkids are smart enough to figure out that it is not only things that you can see that can be understood, hopefully will give them the impetus to look further into science to see what can be understood by using science to see into the "invisible" worlds and even back in time.
And I am sure you also tell your grandkids about the magic sky man?
Oh my gosh I hope your grandkids don't listen to you. LOL can anyone actually see and truly appreciate what we are actually made of?
My doctor thinks lithium is a bad choice and won't prescribe it. Lamotrigine didn't work out
Someone please explain like I'm five
ROLLER COASTER OF FAILURE TO STABILIZE 49 YRS OLD ALONE DUE TO MY MENTAL ILLNESS.
BIG MEN!
Lithium Orotate 100X more bio-available and at least 10000X more effective then lithium carbonate that this "scientist" is talking about
no
Have you tried it? I'm genuinely interested. i take orotate, but I take magnesium carbonate and that one seems to enter my brain just fine. I wonder if carbonate works the same or better in the gut (or the brain). Not trusting any studies, just experiences.
@@dominus6695 Dr John Grey recommends 25 mgs daily . Look him up for more advice on depression. 💕
Mhhh interesting
“...because quantum mechanics.” Every time he says this it comes across as a lack of understanding.