I dont carry a pistol or a rifle. I carry a pocket mirror. When confronted with the threat, I draw my mirror and repeat "Karl Erickson" three times. This summons Sergeant Major Erickson, who kills the threat, and then calls me a dumb ass. Then I have to do push ups while singing Balad of the Green Berets while he laughs.
@@henryrodriguez2799 yeah the 556/223 is nothing to underestimate. A lot of people do though. But I honestly think Kyle rittinhouse was using a soft point in that situation.
That’s BS, not that handgun shooting victims walk out of the hospital but, that the handgun is inferior. Most hospital handgun statistics are based on gang shootings, from untrained idiots using pistols ineffectively. Hospital statistics of surviving handgun victims usually are anywhere but CNS or vital organ impacts.
Statistically speaking your also more likely to be shot by a rifle than a pistol so that is a bit of a construed opinion based on inconsistent variables
old TX Sherriff carrying a pistol @ a dinner party... lady: Why sheriff, you’re carrying a gun. Are you expecting to get in a gunfight? Sheriff: Ma’am, if I was expecting to get in a gunfight, I would have brought my rifle... well Said Karl!
No,they sell "rifle caliber" ammo. Meaning no calibers that can be fired from a pistol configuration. Right now, they have just been completely bought out of all ammo
That must be why law enforcement statistics show that most people who get shot with a pistol survive and most who get shot with a rifle or shotgun don't make it. Great informative video Carl. Thanks for your service as well.
@@mattwalters6834 Shot placement would have to be considered for both pistols and long guns. That being said statistics show that you're much more likely to survive being shot with a pistol than with a rifle or shotgun. I've even heard of a case of someone being killed by an air rifle and that person died from infection as he was shot in the abdomen. I guess shot placement had everything to do with that, but the terminal ballistics of an air rifle, a .22-LR or a 9mm are vastly different. Now comparing the terminal ballistics of a 9mm to a 5.56, 308, or a 12 gauge for example, with the last 3 examples, shot placement isn't nearly as critical as with the 9mm.
@@mattwalters6834 Indeed, most newbies shoot pistols, and most of the people firing pistols are morons... Virginia tech massacre is the perfect of example of effeciency. Extremly High kill ratio, and dude just did a little practice. Most ppl who own rifles are gun nuts and do at least a little training, handguns are extremly common and newbies are the one fueling the stastistics.
Some pistol people seem to forget that the last time soldiers went knowingly into combat with handguns instead of rifles was over a century ago, and then only because they needed one hand free to hold their horses' reigns.
Thats good find a good round that works well for your rifle just like any other firearm they are all gonna be a tiny bit different its a machine a tool glad your using good ammo
@@tfunkhou88 Yes, but there is no other standard test medium that gives repeatable results. Gel is very close. As much as I like Paul Harrell's videos, his meat targets, while they are good demonstrations, still do not give good, consistent results like gel. Gel may not act exactly like flesh, but it's close. Unlike flesh, it's consistent.
Amen great advice I was saying this to my brother-in-law. He told me I know nothing because I was never in the military or law enforcement and only been in firearms for a year. I read none stop get info on CZcams from you and others
Titles don't mean shit. Cops hit 13% of what they shoot at, and there are plenty in all branches that don't shoot and can't hit anything as well. Ik civs who are way more knowledgeable. Much spec forces training is done by civilians, off base
I know what you're thinking, gents. "But Karl, in Call of Duty I could take a pistol and head shot people and win games" Gents, I get that, and the problem with that is, when you get 150 headshots, your gun turns gold, and that's just not good for combat.
Your right Karl, the gel don’t lie. It always amazes me the number of people who will argue with you on about any topic. I wasn’t in the military you were, and special forces on top of that. You made it through some pretty dicey situations I’m sure so I think I’ll just take your word for it.
Little known fact: Karl has a confirmed kill at 147 meters with his issue sidearm. Dude doesn’t even need a rifle. The louder cartridges just help him sleep better at night
Literally just the other day I was reading an article Greg Ellifritz shared about how if you get shot with a pistol, and you make it to the hospital while your heart is still beating, you're almost guaranteed to survive. People don't like being told handguns are shitty weapons, but it's the truth. The main difference is ergonomics relative to the individual shooter. Pistols are tools of convenience (the most useful tools are the ones you have on you). There is a commonly repeated adage of "Your pistol is only there to get you to your rifle" which is a bit of a misnomer. A pistol is with you all the time; a rifle is with you some of the time. And as for the idea that a pistol is somehow more maneuverable than a rifle... If you don't have the patience to learn how to properly maneuver a rifle, then I guarantee you will not be an effective pistol shot under duress. Anything you can mount from the shoulder is far easier to get fast, accurate hits with. I literally say this same thing since I am a defensive handgun instructor... The best pistol is the one you shoot the best. For most people, that is going to be 9mm. There are two things I tell novice shooters that they need to understand: The hidden advantage of 9mm is that you can train on it more than any other duty caliber. And if you are training correctly and competently with a pistol, it will directly translate to rifle skills. So train like a mofo on a pistol, but bring a rifle to a gunfight... if you can! (PS. Karl I would recommend some 5.56 ammo that Federal loads called T556TNB1. It's literally the SOST bullet optimized for shorter carbine or SBR length barrels. It's what I run in 5.56, highly recommend for duty/defense.)
For civilians you will probably only ever have a pistol in a public environment. If you use a rifle you are probably going to prison. Yes i know you will be alive. But who wants to be a boy you for the next 20 years. Having said that. I've seen a lot of people shot with pistols. Some go to hospital and leave same day. Some stay in hospital and leave in a few days. Some stay in a bag. Everyone i have seen shot with a rifle or shotgun gets to stay in a bag unless it's a limb shot. Best advise i can tell you is don't get in a gun fight unless you have no other option. The consequences if you are not in a soldier in a war are not good. Even if criminally cleared you will spend a fortune defending your self. You may lose civilly especially if you are in a liberal city or state. The only time you will probably be ok is on defense of you life in your home. In public you better have no other option. Been there done that. Take for what is worth to you.
This is a really interesting video. I didn't expect that result. I keep a pistol w/weapon light close enough that I can be in action within 2-3 seconds after waking up, as long as I'm awake enough to fight. That's for if the bad guy is already on top of me, or damn near. If I have an extra 5 seconds, and they're not in the room yet, I'm going for my shotgun or rifle. Either one will end a fight more reliably than a pistol.
I’m always scratching my head when I see people running PCC’s and acting like they have something superior to a rifle because they can use the same ammo in their pistol. If you’re going to run a rifle make sure it shoots a rifle caliber !
good point, I’ve never understood that either, also to add to that, why would you carry something like an MP5 or UMP pcc for example when a 10.5-11.5 inch AR is far superior and roughly the same size
Amazing video. Its wild how theres some people in the gun community that thinks their pistol caliber .40 S&W and .45 ACP is more powerful than a 5.56/.223.
@joesmith3661 That depends on the type of caliber but I have formula to help choose correct rounds. Requirements Chronograph to help measure muzzle velocity out of the specific weapon of choice. Balistics gel to capture the bullet for analysis. Micrometer to identify the size. Step1 Get muzzle energy which is the weight and muzzle velocity (use chronograph). Step 2 Identify the size of the bullet retrieve from ballistics gel. Example 9MM and .45 ACP has a muzzle energy of 400 - 750 joules. 9MM (.360) Diameter .45 ACP (.450) Diameter If 9MM is hollow point they normally expand to 1.7 (so .600) and .45 ACP is full metal jacket Lets say both are 600 joules but 9mm is hollow point .600 / .450 diameter x 600 joules is 800 /600 joules = 1.33X.
The fbi agents from the famous Dade shooting all agreed on one thing...that the mini 14 and its noise, muzzle blast, firepower, ect all had a negitive physiological effect on them. It affected them mentally and in turn physically... and as clint Smith said, "rifles are monsters inside the average self defense shooting distance, they eat shit up".... I love my pistols... but I have the choice, I'm grabbing the biggest gun that makes sense for the room I'm in....
There's 2 problems with the 55gr FMJ's. They regularly do great in gel tests but, depending on where you hit a bad guy, they can also 'ice pick' through. Their terminal effect on tissue is entirely dependent on velocity(which is effected by both barrel length and distance), twist rate and even the angle they hit flesh. Yaw and tumble or straight through aren't an issue in combat, but for self/home defense soft points are a better choice. The second issue is that barriers like drywall might as well be tissue paper for any FMJ. Again, this can be addressed with soft point ammo. Two I've tested with good characteristics, Winchester ranger 55gr and Winchester Powerpoint 64gr, reliably obtain sufficient penetration on gel/tissue while also breaking up into lower energy fragments after striking drywall. The 40gr Hornaday and Fiocchi VMax loads also break up through drywall but lack decent penetration in soft tissue. As to why I carry a pistol, to paraphrase the late Paul Gomez, last time I walked into the bank with an AR slung across my chest they got really nervous.
Years ago I watched a presentation by an ER doctor and his experience was if you were shot by a pistol, they can probably save you, more or less. If you are shot by a rifle, probably not. The amount of damage done is exactly as shown in this video. Yes size matters but in this case velocity matters more.
Yup the velocity and the fact the 223/556 shape of the bullet makes it want to tumble once it penetrates flesh. That's why 9mm ball is crappy self defense ammo. It doesn't have the velocity, the size of the bullet doesn't dump like a 45, and the shape of the bullet just creates ice pick wounds and over penetrates.
And most of the people that ER doctor saw who had been shot with rifles probably weren't shot with 5.56 ball ammo. The damage done by a .30-06, .308 or .243 hunting rifle is going to be exponentially worse.
@@jeffreygunn3530 I would say that would have to be the case since so few people are shot with 5.56. He did specifically call out 5.56 as part of the lecture and noted how effective it is but I suspect in practical experience the likelihood of him having saved anyone from 5.56 is small.
@@jeffreygunn3530 I would say that once NATO and a large number of other countries adapted it as their primary infantry cartridge it lost its varmint classification rather quickly. That being said, I'd suggest that it is also made for shooting people. Just because a cartridge is developed originally for one purpose does not mean that purpose cannot change.
This is why whenever you can you should choose a rifle to protect yourself. A rifle will always deliver more kinetic energy on target than a pistol. Use a pistol to fight your way to your rifle
Realistically, this probably the use of each weapons types. Sniper Rifles -Long Range Shooting -Hunting Normally stays behind enemy lines to provide info and support fire and hunting big animals. Sadly, some snipers exceeding .308 are long, heavy and slow (which cant engage multiple targets) and will be outbeaten by short, light and fast guns (which can engage multiple targets). Shotguns -Self Defense (buckshot) -Hunting (slug) -Breaching (buckshot) -Anti Vehicle (slug) Good for defending against 1 or 2 targets or moving targets. Slug can take down some vehicle. However, its too risky at close range against ARs, SMGs or LMGs. Sub Machine Guns -Close Range Suppressing Fire Light weight and compact, its high rate of fire and controllability allows easy and fast movement and endgagements, . However, most cant penetrate body armor and has lesser effective range. Light Machine Guns -Medium Range Suppressing Fire Contrary to SMGs, they use rifle round, have longer barrels, are heavier and are mostly used stationary but they also are used for suppressing fire. Use them behind people using ARs and SMGs. Assault Rifles -Long Range Shooting -Hunting -Close Self Defense -Close Range Suppressing Fire -Medium Range Suppressing Fire Mostly has characteristics of Shotguns, Snipers, SMGs and LMGs and can penetrate Body Armor. Defensive Handguns -Concealed Carry -Close Range Self Defense -Close Range Combat -Fast Switch -Great Back Up Weapon -Great For Getting To Your Main Gun ARs and Hanguns are probably the most versatile weapons. I would say choose a pistol/hangun over shotguns for close range combat. However, I would be okay using Shotguns for close range self defense.
Recently attended a very cool lecture on terminal ballistics in a medical trauma context. Was a good reminder that velocity matters much more than mass, ie KE = 1/2mv^2. Lead also shears itself apart on impact at roughly 3000fps and dumps all its energy on target...I wonder what has a muzzle velocity of about 3000fps? Oh yeah, 5.56x45mm.
Well most places will not allow us to carry a rifle around, to the grocery store, movies, etc. We all agree most rifles are superior to a pistol, but much harder to conceal, so carry in da trunk, with pistol in the belt. :>)
I carry a 45 but always have an AR pistol or Mini 14 in my vehicle and at the ready at home. Not only for the performance of the bullet but the speed, capacity and accuracy of the rifle, even when used by my wife or teenagers. Red dot, light and laser top it off to deal with any threat that may come our way. Great video.
The truth is in civilian life you can't walk around with a rifle but you can have a pistol. Also a civilian gun fight will be at close range and you will never be able to get to your rifle! The fight will be over in seconds. I agree a rifle is better but not a practical self defense weapon in Walmart! If I knew I was going into a fight I would have a 12guage pump shotgun!
walmart store policy does not permit firearms in store, unless theyre being purchased. open and concealed carry are against walmart policy. unconstitutional bastards.
@@constitutionalrepublican1611 so what happens if you’re carrying concealed how are you supposed to know? Is there a sign on the door? Is it a crime or just a policy?
@@LKaramazov theres a sign, and its policy, however they can contact police, and you can be ejected from the store. happened to family of mine at two locations, they however were open carrying. regardless, a right denied is a right infringed upon. "dont like the policy, dont give them the business" was what we were told.
Let the haters hate Karl, but when you're right, you're right... I've been saying this same thing for years.... glad to see you put a video up about it...
My sons for some reason preferred FMJ's for their EDC weapons despite my objections... Until I showed them your video and reminded them that they're on the hook for that round that passed through. They just switched to JHP's (we had a great day at the range with their FMJ's). I guess listening to me all these years sounds like the adults from Charlie Brown so the same message in a different voice did the trick. Thanks
Pistol is last line defense. Once 5.56 is gone, then and only then do you go for the sidearm. Now, if you were in the Soviet military the sidearm was used to motivate troops during a full out charge (in the back of the head).
Damn i was hoping you were gonna send one of those 5.56 Gold Dots into the block for comparison to the cheap 55 grain ball ammo in the difference that it makes.
A lot of people don't understand that rifles are many times more powerful than handguns. If you looked at the blocks side by side after the test you can see how much more permanent damage was done by the rifle. Around 70% of people shot with handguns don't stay at the scene of the shooting but 97% of people shot with rifles and shotguns do. A large portion of people chose a handgun for defending there homes putting them at a much higher risk. Center-fire long guns are by far the best choice for stopping most people with just one shot, this way you can move on to the next person quickly.
Karl, you are of course 100% correct. I still don't understand the PCC craze. When it's all said and done, it's still a pistol round being fired from a giant handgun. Thanks for honest content. 🇺🇲
Its much more effective than a handgun solely because it's much easier to get hits, but I'd much rather have a rifle caliber if I'm using a rifle sized weapon.
@@asdfghjk2933 well it isnt rifle sized thats the point. If your talking about 10.5 ars as a rifle then its not any more effective than a mp5 in terms of effect
Thank you for the info I love watching that rifle shoot. I ordered my TR one couple months ago hoping to have it by the election doesn’t look good but still can’t wait to get it. Can’t wait to take a class from you next year saving up the money as we speak to be able to drive out and take your carbine class
Now I'm finally beginning to understand the reason why Karl named his company "Tactical Rifleman" and not "Tactical Pistolman." A bit of trivia: "pistolman" isn't in the dictionary. Probably a reason for that too.
Great stuff! We carry sidearms because they're portable, not because they're potent. If the fight comes to you, in your own home, then there's no reason not to fight back with the most effective weapons you have! For me that will be a carbine (Bren 805 or PWS Mk114 Mod1) loaded up with 77gr OTM.
Great info and comparison between pistol and rifle. A lot of people feel the pistol is best because of easy concealment which is fine and dandy, but when it comes down to brass taxes, the rifle wins hands down all the time with cavitation type wounding especially in close quarters. DOL.
I personally love all firearms each caliber is unique in its own way and have there own purpose and everybody has a personal preference personally what I keep close is a FMK 9mm ball ammo sometimes hollows but as he said are you trying to stop the threat without death or end a life that’s on you, Mossberg 500 with either bird shot or a slug and .556/.223 Diamondback AR 15 I’m definitely getting my 30-06 ,762 ,308, .45 and 10mm
I've never seen any gel tests, in more than 30 years, that has differed from the results you have in this video. I would never choose M855 over M193, either.
I forgot who did the video but I saw one recently that interviewed several ammo manufactures who explained that until a round is moving above roughly 2000 FPS, the body's natural elasticity overcomes the kinetic energy. It only has the round diameter sized permanent wound cavity. Once a round is moving above 2k FPS, it tears the tissue up to 3 inches away from the wound track causing far more bleeding and tissue damage.
Pistol is way more maneuverable in a small apartment in the city. I have a high cap S&W hanging out on the nightstand that will do just fine. All I have to do is hit them once in the right spot, problem solved. Sometimes I have the Ruger .357 out, too. That'll hurt someone's feelings enough to clear the air. Don't overthink it, people. It's not complicated. Chances of that happening are low, and I'm not looking for trouble. Guns are best used for sport.
I agree, about the rifle. But, there’s a lot of places/states where you can’t walk around with a rifle. I can’t walk into a dentist office with a tricked out ar15. I can go almost anywhere with a pistol. My 2 cents
A few key points here are, he was using standard military ammo, which as he stated is not intended to kill as much as it is to wound. For a standard law enforcement officer patrolling the streets, at least where I live, only top level hollow points are allowed on duty, more lethal, less penetration. Besides, as we all must know, shot placement is key, and pistols are great for building clearing. Now, don't get me wrong, all my respects to this gentleman, I really like his channel and the great info he puts out here. I would agree on the fact if you could only carry one firearm in a going into battle situation, rifle would more than likely be best, because that is what most others would probably carry and have a reach and power advantage over a person with a pistol. There is a reason, wars are fought with rifles and not with pistols alone. EDC: PISTOL Going into battle: Short barrel/bullpup rifle.
Glad you made this video, I've always said this. In a shtf or combat situation people are gonna be wearing lots of gear and that will definately affect the performance of hp ammo. Now me being an AK guy I like running a 10.5 inch barrel. Compact, a lot of energy and itil run any garbage you feed it.
You should train with them. I've been through one class with them and plan to do more. It isn't cheap, but im am convinced there is no better training available even above their price.
@@TacticalRifleman do you pumpkin on post that close or 3 dot line up with iron sights for that distance? I noticed you had a optic as well and at that distance is the dot even visible as I am also wondering because I sighted my new optic in and can't see the dot at anything closer than 20 yards. So I'm wondering if point of aim hides the dot with the iron or if it's just due to it being sighted from point of impact....? Sorry for the long question here. Thanks in advance for any response 🫡 also thank you for your service!
Idk how anyone in their right mind could denounce a rifle in favor of a pistol? Like those people HAVE to be trolling. Same goes for the naysayers of 556 / 223 calling it a “weak” round. These rounds literally REMOVE limbs from people and cause extremely devastating center mass wounds that often cannot be come back from. Yes, shot placement is key; but when you have a high velocity rifle shot placement matters exceptionally less than with a pistol.
Some people just don't understand physics. A tiny little 22 caliber 55gr bullet may not seem like it's several times more effective than a 9mm or a .45, but it is when screaming out of the barrel at 3200fps. Speed kills.
Rifle cartridge’s terminal effect always trumps pistol cartridges. Also, it’s easier to shoot rifles… only benefits pistols have is light weight, carry convenience, and generally speaking, non-gun people tend to frown when we carry rifles around, lol
Ammo passes through one bad guy and into another, with the first having a sucking chest wound front and back. If the scenario is me against several bad guys, I would call that a good thing. Never plan on getting into a pickle like that.
Best advise...don't get into a gun fight.
You have to be a cook or the general ...
exactly
Exactly,,don’t let the other person get off a shot
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take.
Or have the boys with you
I dont carry a pistol or a rifle. I carry a pocket mirror. When confronted with the threat, I draw my mirror and repeat "Karl Erickson" three times. This summons Sergeant Major Erickson, who kills the threat, and then calls me a dumb ass. Then I have to do push ups while singing Balad of the Green Berets while he laughs.
😭😭😭😂
That sounds like a weird fever dream 😶😶
I fr thought you were gonna say you turn the mirror towards the threat and say, look who you've become 😂
@@Lettusfarmlmao!
Way less paperwork on your end
Good info; rifles FTW
Absolutely all day every day
Absolutely positively!
Thats why the channel is called tactical rifleman, not tactical pistolman
But Mr.Guns..what about your .460 Rowland G21? 🤔
Agreed. Good facts, no agenda. Awesome video.
I heard tell that 5.56 works good on biceps 💪 as well 🤷🏼♂️
thanks to kyle rittinhouse for the field testing
Ooph.
@@tajituck888 exactly what I was thinking man that tumble ness is insane crazy to think think that one bullet did all that damage
@@henryrodriguez2799 yeah the 556/223 is nothing to underestimate. A lot of people do though. But I honestly think Kyle rittinhouse was using a soft point in that situation.
Specifically, armed commie felon biceps. 😂🤣😂🤣🤣✌🐸
A pistol can get you out of something. A rifle is for going to something.
Amen
Best comment 👍
Jesus loves you bro, it's ok...
Well said. Lol
@@jimcalifwin3760 lmao
Did he really just lick his rifle??? Nice
It wouldn’t be the first time.. 👅
Wait... you guys dont?
What else would you do with your rifle besides lick and shoot it? How can you resist?
I licked it, it's mine!
Don’t burn your tongue.
Lots of people shot with a handgun walk out of the hospital the same day. Rifle, not so much... Good stuff
Do you have statistics to prove that?
That’s BS, not that handgun shooting victims walk out of the hospital but, that the handgun is inferior. Most hospital handgun statistics are based on gang shootings, from untrained idiots using pistols ineffectively. Hospital statistics of surviving handgun victims usually are anywhere but CNS or vital organ impacts.
james blake was shot 7 times with a 9mm at almost point blank range and survived ,paralyzed but alive.
Statistically speaking your also more likely to be shot by a rifle than a pistol so that is a bit of a construed opinion based on inconsistent variables
Show proof of this please? All. Statistics I find point to handgun shooting being FAR more prevelant than rifle. Not the other way around.
old TX Sherriff carrying a pistol @ a dinner party...
lady: Why sheriff, you’re carrying a gun. Are you expecting to get in a gunfight?
Sheriff: Ma’am, if I was expecting to get in a gunfight, I would have brought my rifle...
well Said Karl!
And that is why this channel isn’t called “Tactical Pistolman” 😊
Underrated comment
Lol, maybe he should start one!
“...cheap crap, buy at Walmart...”
But, Sgt. Major...Walmart doesn’t sell ammo anymore, only shot shells.”
No,they sell "rifle caliber" ammo. Meaning no calibers that can be fired from a pistol configuration. Right now, they have just been completely bought out of all ammo
@@FreedomInc they also no longer sell 5.56 or .223 or 7.62x39 or .308
@@721pjm that’s what I was referring to in my original comment/post but failed to be specific. 😩
@@721pjm thought they still had .308?
@@nathanielradtke7590 At least in New Hampshire they don't
"A Pistol is an excellent weapon, for fighting your way to a long gun."
-Paraphrasing of some old gun guy
I hate that term.
Haven't finished the video but I'm going to assume rifle wins all the way everytime.
My assumption was astute.
Your a true scholar.
Some of us can't easily conceal a full sized rifle
@@theripwagon5868 try harder then man...
@@theripwagon5868 he goes over that in the video
That must be why law enforcement statistics show that most people who get shot with a pistol survive and most who get shot with a rifle or shotgun don't make it. Great informative video Carl. Thanks for your service as well.
Probably, I’m guessing shot placement is also very important; I’m pretty sure no one is going to make it with a thoracic or high thoracic wound.
@@mattwalters6834 Shot placement would have to be considered for both pistols and long guns. That being said statistics show that you're much more likely to survive being shot with a pistol than with a rifle or shotgun. I've even heard of a case of someone being killed by an air rifle and that person died from infection as he was shot in the abdomen. I guess shot placement had everything to do with that, but the terminal ballistics of an air rifle, a .22-LR or a 9mm are vastly different. Now comparing the terminal ballistics of a 9mm to a 5.56, 308, or a 12 gauge for example, with the last 3 examples, shot placement isn't nearly as critical as with the 9mm.
@@thriftysurvivor6117 👍
@@mattwalters6834 Indeed, most newbies shoot pistols, and most of the people firing pistols are morons... Virginia tech massacre is the perfect of example of effeciency. Extremly High kill ratio, and dude just did a little practice. Most ppl who own rifles are gun nuts and do at least a little training, handguns are extremly common and newbies are the one fueling the stastistics.
Some pistol people seem to forget that the last time soldiers went knowingly into combat with handguns instead of rifles was over a century ago, and then only because they needed one hand free to hold their horses' reigns.
Tell me when a civilian had war and thousands of men armed outside there door? 🤨
We still carry pistols in the military.
@@chroma6947 Pretty much any war in history. Why do you think Swiss citizens all have rifles in their house?
@@illogik He said "instead of". What military unit on the frontline only carries handguns?
@@chroma6947 maintain a well regulated militia being necessary for a free and secure state
Every pistol and rifle has its pros and cons
Hearing the phrase “cheap 55gr ammo,” makes me miss the good ol’ days... ie: months ago!?!?
#fml
How quick things change
He wasn’t referring to the price. You can charge $1000 for it it’s still gon be cheap.
In my home or in the public my Glock 19 (124 Grain +P Speer Gold Dot) is in place just so I can get to my 11.5 BCM (62 Grain Speer Gold Dot).
Same here, G19 with 147gr federal hst and an AR with 60gr Hornady TAP Urban.
Glock all day cant beat something that won't stop yall should check out the 77gr smk or 75gr gold dot at pine valley ♥ 🤔 😎
@@Johnson11c my rifles love the frontier 5.56mm 75 gr bthp
Thats good find a good round that works well for your rifle just like any other firearm they are all gonna be a tiny bit different its a machine a tool glad your using good ammo
Beretta 92F loaded with 124 gold dot. Loaded in 18 round mecgar mags.
When your Grandpa said "Put a ball in him.", he was talking about a rifle ball.
In a gun battle, a pistol is mostly a defensive weapon but a rifle can be both, pretty simple.
I hope Karl picked up that live 9mm round he ejected out. Like gold nowadays!
Pure gold
So I wasn’t the only person fixated on that as well.?
I noticed that!
Definitely like the clear ballistic gel better than the traditional yellow.
But yellow tastes better.
It’s cool, but doesn’t show as closely how bullets act in flesh from what I understand
@@tfunkhou88 Yes, but there is no other standard test medium that gives repeatable results. Gel is very close. As much as I like Paul Harrell's videos, his meat targets, while they are good demonstrations, still do not give good, consistent results like gel. Gel may not act exactly like flesh, but it's close. Unlike flesh, it's consistent.
@@saxmusicmail right…I was saying clear ballistics gel isn’t as representative as 10% ballistic gelatin
Important thing, use a consistent medium for all tests.
Amen great advice I was saying this to my brother-in-law. He told me I know nothing because I was never in the military or law enforcement and only been in firearms for a year. I read none stop get info on CZcams from you and others
@SilverSharkie thanks I am. I also train in BJJ and other MMA training with some stick and knife fighting.
@@waynebattersby9461 cool.
Titles don't mean shit. Cops hit 13% of what they shoot at, and there are plenty in all branches that don't shoot and can't hit anything as well. Ik civs who are way more knowledgeable. Much spec forces training is done by civilians, off base
Don’t talk to your brother in law.
@@sabretom7594 I don’t talk much because he is one step from being a whacko
When I trained at Gunsite in '86, Col. Cooper told us that in combat "The sole purpose of a pistol is to fight your way to a rifle or shotgun."
I know what you're thinking, gents. "But Karl, in Call of Duty I could take a pistol and head shot people and win games" Gents, I get that, and the problem with that is, when you get 150 headshots, your gun turns gold, and that's just not good for combat.
Your right Karl, the gel don’t lie. It always amazes me the number of people who will argue with you on about any topic. I wasn’t in the military you were, and special forces on top of that. You made it through some pretty dicey situations I’m sure so I think I’ll just take your word for it.
Little known fact:
Karl has a confirmed kill at 147 meters with his issue sidearm. Dude doesn’t even need a rifle. The louder cartridges just help him sleep better at night
No way. Did he say that in a tactical Tuesday?
@@milesbowen9433 Facts. I think it’s the 04/01 podcast
If anyone could do it I would bet on Karl
@@commonsenseproductions5893 April 1st, huh? Lol
I heard that Karl once killed someone at 300 yards just looking through the spotters scope.
TR 1: Tastes Good Real Good. 😂🤣
Literally just the other day I was reading an article Greg Ellifritz shared about how if you get shot with a pistol, and you make it to the hospital while your heart is still beating, you're almost guaranteed to survive.
People don't like being told handguns are shitty weapons, but it's the truth. The main difference is ergonomics relative to the individual shooter. Pistols are tools of convenience (the most useful tools are the ones you have on you). There is a commonly repeated adage of "Your pistol is only there to get you to your rifle" which is a bit of a misnomer. A pistol is with you all the time; a rifle is with you some of the time. And as for the idea that a pistol is somehow more maneuverable than a rifle... If you don't have the patience to learn how to properly maneuver a rifle, then I guarantee you will not be an effective pistol shot under duress. Anything you can mount from the shoulder is far easier to get fast, accurate hits with.
I literally say this same thing since I am a defensive handgun instructor... The best pistol is the one you shoot the best. For most people, that is going to be 9mm. There are two things I tell novice shooters that they need to understand: The hidden advantage of 9mm is that you can train on it more than any other duty caliber. And if you are training correctly and competently with a pistol, it will directly translate to rifle skills. So train like a mofo on a pistol, but bring a rifle to a gunfight... if you can!
(PS. Karl I would recommend some 5.56 ammo that Federal loads called T556TNB1. It's literally the SOST bullet optimized for shorter carbine or SBR length barrels. It's what I run in 5.56, highly recommend for duty/defense.)
For civilians you will probably only ever have a pistol in a public environment. If you use a rifle you are probably going to prison. Yes i know you will be alive. But who wants to be a boy you for the next 20 years.
Having said that. I've seen a lot of people shot with pistols. Some go to hospital and leave same day. Some stay in hospital and leave in a few days. Some stay in a bag.
Everyone i have seen shot with a rifle or shotgun gets to stay in a bag unless it's a limb shot.
Best advise i can tell you is don't get in a gun fight unless you have no other option. The consequences if you are not in a soldier in a war are not good. Even if criminally cleared you will spend a fortune defending your self. You may lose civilly especially if you are in a liberal city or state.
The only time you will probably be ok is on defense of you life in your home. In public you better have no other option. Been there done that. Take for what is worth to you.
So true and so unfair.
very true, repost this everywhere, this is what needs to be talked about.
This is a really interesting video. I didn't expect that result. I keep a pistol w/weapon light close enough that I can be in action within 2-3 seconds after waking up, as long as I'm awake enough to fight. That's for if the bad guy is already on top of me, or damn near. If I have an extra 5 seconds, and they're not in the room yet, I'm going for my shotgun or rifle. Either one will end a fight more reliably than a pistol.
I’m always scratching my head when I see people running PCC’s and acting like they have something superior to a rifle because they can use the same ammo in their pistol. If you’re going to run a rifle make sure it shoots a rifle caliber !
good point, I’ve never understood that either, also to add to that, why would you carry something like an MP5 or UMP pcc for example when a 10.5-11.5 inch AR is far superior and roughly the same size
Amazing video. Its wild how theres some people in the gun community that thinks their pistol caliber .40 S&W and .45 ACP is more powerful than a 5.56/.223.
And In reality there not even as powerful as a 9mm
What about 460 magnum
@joesmith3661
That depends on the type of caliber but I have formula to help choose correct rounds.
Requirements
Chronograph to help measure muzzle velocity out of the specific weapon of choice.
Balistics gel to capture the bullet for analysis.
Micrometer to identify the size.
Step1
Get muzzle energy which is the weight and muzzle velocity (use chronograph).
Step 2
Identify the size of the bullet retrieve from ballistics gel.
Example
9MM and .45 ACP has a muzzle energy of 400 - 750 joules.
9MM (.360) Diameter
.45 ACP (.450) Diameter
If 9MM is hollow point they normally expand to 1.7 (so .600) and .45 ACP is full metal jacket
Lets say both are 600 joules but 9mm is hollow point
.600 / .450 diameter x 600 joules is 800 /600 joules = 1.33X.
much, much more powerful than 9mm lol. the hollow point in this video was garbage@@Dingleberry345
The fbi agents from the famous Dade shooting all agreed on one thing...that the mini 14 and its noise, muzzle blast, firepower, ect all had a negitive physiological effect on them. It affected them mentally and in turn physically... and as clint Smith said, "rifles are monsters inside the average self defense shooting distance, they eat shit up".... I love my pistols... but I have the choice, I'm grabbing the biggest gun that makes sense for the room I'm in....
There's 2 problems with the 55gr FMJ's. They regularly do great in gel tests but, depending on where you hit a bad guy, they can also 'ice pick' through. Their terminal effect on tissue is entirely dependent on velocity(which is effected by both barrel length and distance), twist rate and even the angle they hit flesh. Yaw and tumble or straight through aren't an issue in combat, but for self/home defense soft points are a better choice. The second issue is that barriers like drywall might as well be tissue paper for any FMJ. Again, this can be addressed with soft point ammo. Two I've tested with good characteristics, Winchester ranger 55gr and Winchester Powerpoint 64gr, reliably obtain sufficient penetration on gel/tissue while also breaking up into lower energy fragments after striking drywall. The 40gr Hornaday and Fiocchi VMax loads also break up through drywall but lack decent penetration in soft tissue.
As to why I carry a pistol, to paraphrase the late Paul Gomez, last time I walked into the bank with an AR slung across my chest they got really nervous.
In some places they don't
Your brand of no nonsense, practical, real world info is simply the trutj uncle Karl!
Years ago I watched a presentation by an ER doctor and his experience was if you were shot by a pistol, they can probably save you, more or less. If you are shot by a rifle, probably not. The amount of damage done is exactly as shown in this video. Yes size matters but in this case velocity matters more.
Yup the velocity and the fact the 223/556 shape of the bullet makes it want to tumble once it penetrates flesh. That's why 9mm ball is crappy self defense ammo. It doesn't have the velocity, the size of the bullet doesn't dump like a 45, and the shape of the bullet just creates ice pick wounds and over penetrates.
And most of the people that ER doctor saw who had been shot with rifles probably weren't shot with 5.56 ball ammo. The damage done by a .30-06, .308 or .243 hunting rifle is going to be exponentially worse.
@@jeffreygunn3530 I would say that would have to be the case since so few people are shot with 5.56. He did specifically call out 5.56 as part of the lecture and noted how effective it is but I suspect in practical experience the likelihood of him having saved anyone from 5.56 is small.
@@NickFrom1228 People seem to forget that .223/5.56 is basically a varmint round. It's made for shooting coyotes, not people.
@@jeffreygunn3530 I would say that once NATO and a large number of other countries adapted it as their primary infantry cartridge it lost its varmint classification rather quickly. That being said, I'd suggest that it is also made for shooting people. Just because a cartridge is developed originally for one purpose does not mean that purpose cannot change.
This is why whenever you can you should choose a rifle to protect yourself. A rifle will always deliver more kinetic energy on target than a pistol. Use a pistol to fight your way to your rifle
Perfect brother! Exactly what I was taught too. Go big or go home.
"Take a rifle to a gunfight." Sage advice.
A rifle to the gun fight!, ...and ALL MY FRIENDS WITH THEIR RIFLES TOO! Bring the entire "BIG RED ONE"
Realistically, this probably the use of each weapons types.
Sniper Rifles
-Long Range Shooting
-Hunting
Normally stays behind enemy lines to provide info and support fire and hunting big animals. Sadly, some snipers exceeding .308 are long, heavy and slow (which cant engage multiple targets) and will be outbeaten by short, light and fast guns (which can engage multiple targets).
Shotguns
-Self Defense (buckshot)
-Hunting (slug)
-Breaching (buckshot)
-Anti Vehicle (slug)
Good for defending against 1 or 2 targets or moving targets. Slug can take down some vehicle. However, its too risky at close range against ARs, SMGs or LMGs.
Sub Machine Guns
-Close Range Suppressing Fire
Light weight and compact, its high rate of fire and controllability allows easy and fast movement and endgagements, . However, most cant penetrate body armor and has lesser effective range.
Light Machine Guns
-Medium Range Suppressing Fire
Contrary to SMGs, they use rifle round, have longer barrels, are heavier and are mostly used stationary but they also are used for suppressing fire. Use them behind people using ARs and SMGs.
Assault Rifles
-Long Range Shooting
-Hunting
-Close Self Defense
-Close Range Suppressing Fire
-Medium Range Suppressing Fire
Mostly has characteristics of Shotguns, Snipers, SMGs and LMGs and can penetrate Body Armor.
Defensive Handguns
-Concealed Carry
-Close Range Self Defense
-Close Range Combat
-Fast Switch
-Great Back Up Weapon
-Great For Getting To Your Main Gun
ARs and Hanguns are probably the most versatile weapons. I would say choose a pistol/hangun over shotguns for close range combat. However, I would be okay using Shotguns for close range self defense.
Recently attended a very cool lecture on terminal ballistics in a medical trauma context. Was a good reminder that velocity matters much more than mass, ie KE = 1/2mv^2. Lead also shears itself apart on impact at roughly 3000fps and dumps all its energy on target...I wonder what has a muzzle velocity of about 3000fps? Oh yeah, 5.56x45mm.
Well most places will not allow us to carry a rifle around, to the grocery store, movies, etc. We all agree most rifles are superior to a pistol, but much harder to conceal, so carry in da trunk, with pistol in the belt. :>)
I carry a 45 but always have an AR pistol or Mini 14 in my vehicle and at the ready at home. Not only for the performance of the bullet but the speed, capacity and accuracy of the rifle, even when used by my wife or teenagers. Red dot, light and laser top it off to deal with any threat that may come our way. Great video.
HST is not the standard, it’s THE gold standard and best pistol ammo money can buy
In Australia, we don't have the choice to use a rifle or a handgun for self defence...sigh.
with all the wild n dangerous critters in your country taking you guns is wrong on so many levels.
Should've fought for your rights instead of being a laydown.
High speed solid intel. Thanks Karl👍🏼
Agree 1000% as we used to say if your using your sidearm something went wrong
clear and to the point!
Too bad he didnt show good AR ammo to show an even more dramatic increase in performance
Look up arfcom videos, plenty of rifle ammo gel test for performance on there
That dude who tried shooting the Kenosha kid is a great example of what happens with 5.56 meets mammal tissue 💥💪🔫
The truth is in civilian life you can't walk around with a rifle but you can have a pistol. Also a civilian gun fight will be at close range and you will never be able to get to your rifle! The fight will be over in seconds. I agree a rifle is better but not a practical self defense weapon in Walmart! If I knew I was going into a fight I would have a 12guage pump shotgun!
walmart store policy does not permit firearms in store, unless theyre being purchased.
open and concealed carry are against walmart policy.
unconstitutional bastards.
@@constitutionalrepublican1611 so what happens if you’re carrying concealed how are you supposed to know? Is there a sign on the door? Is it a crime or just a policy?
@@LKaramazov theres a sign, and its policy, however they can contact police, and you can be ejected from the store.
happened to family of mine at two locations, they however were open carrying.
regardless, a right denied is a right infringed upon.
"dont like the policy, dont give them the business" was what we were told.
Let the haters hate Karl, but when you're right, you're right... I've been saying this same thing for years.... glad to see you put a video up about it...
My sons for some reason preferred FMJ's for their EDC weapons despite my objections... Until I showed them your video and reminded them that they're on the hook for that round that passed through. They just switched to JHP's (we had a great day at the range with their FMJ's). I guess listening to me all these years sounds like the adults from Charlie Brown so the same message in a different voice did the trick. Thanks
Glad to help
Situations call for different weapons. Pistol for short range or edc and rifle for hunting or farther shots
Wow thanks I really appreciate all the time you took brother
Pistol is last line defense. Once 5.56 is gone, then and only then do you go for the sidearm. Now, if you were in the Soviet military the sidearm was used to motivate troops during a full out charge (in the back of the head).
You can't buy 556 at Walmart. That's what I've been told at least. Great video.
If I picked up all the perfectly good rounds that Karl racks out of chambers and leaves on the ground, I'd have enough ammo to train everyday.
Looked through comments, funny, no hating going on.
Your audience is not immune to the facts!
Thanks!
Damn i was hoping you were gonna send one of those 5.56 Gold Dots into the block for comparison to the cheap 55 grain ball ammo in the difference that it makes.
Who the hell is going to throw away $50 like that??
Better yet a real caliber like 308, 30-06, 764-39 etc
@@rueridge7597 wtf is a 764-39 lol
@@DVTimmah $50 dollars for what?
@@TommyboyGTP the single 5.56 Gold Dot for the test 😅
A lot of people don't understand that rifles are many times more powerful than handguns. If you looked at the blocks side by side after the test you can see how much more permanent damage was done by the rifle. Around 70% of people shot with handguns don't stay at the scene of the shooting but 97% of people shot with rifles and shotguns do. A large portion of people chose a handgun for defending there homes putting them at a much higher risk. Center-fire long guns are by far the best choice for stopping most people with just one shot, this way you can move on to the next person quickly.
I'm waiting on Glock to come out with their .338 Lapua handgun, then I'll show Karl what's up!!! :-)
Karl, you are of course 100% correct. I still don't understand the PCC craze. When it's all said and done, it's still a pistol round being fired from a giant handgun. Thanks for honest content. 🇺🇲
Its much more effective than a handgun solely because it's much easier to get hits, but I'd much rather have a rifle caliber if I'm using a rifle sized weapon.
@@asdfghjk2933 well it isnt rifle sized thats the point. If your talking about 10.5 ars as a rifle then its not any more effective than a mp5 in terms of effect
@@chroma6947 I am talking about SBRs when I refer to rifles. 5.56 out of a 10.5 is still over twice as energetic as an mp5, so that's not true at all.
Thank you for the info I love watching that rifle shoot. I ordered my TR one couple months ago hoping to have it by the election doesn’t look good but still can’t wait to get it. Can’t wait to take a class from you next year saving up the money as we speak to be able to drive out and take your carbine class
Everyone is on notice for what is expected when the meet up occurs. It's like the American Express card times 1000. Don't leave home without it.
copy that
American Express and guns are similar, they are not accepted everywhere.
Karl changing hearts and minds one gel block at a time.
Now I'm finally beginning to understand the reason why Karl named his company "Tactical Rifleman" and not "Tactical Pistolman." A bit of trivia: "pistolman" isn't in the dictionary. Probably a reason for that too.
Thanks !
Great stuff! We carry sidearms because they're portable, not because they're potent. If the fight comes to you, in your own home, then there's no reason not to fight back with the most effective weapons you have! For me that will be a carbine (Bren 805 or PWS Mk114 Mod1) loaded up with 77gr OTM.
Great info and comparison between pistol and rifle. A lot of people feel the pistol is best because of easy concealment which is fine and dandy, but when it comes down to brass taxes, the rifle wins hands down all the time with cavitation type wounding especially in close quarters. DOL.
Why anyone would disagree with this solid information, or be a hater is beyond me. Good one, captain
I personally love all firearms each caliber is unique in its own way and have there own purpose and everybody has a personal preference personally what I keep close is a FMK 9mm ball ammo sometimes hollows but as he said are you trying to stop the threat without death or end a life that’s on you, Mossberg 500 with either bird shot or a slug and .556/.223 Diamondback AR 15 I’m definitely getting my 30-06 ,762 ,308, .45 and 10mm
100% spot on for all the information in this video.
This is why for many years I've stoked my AR with M193. No M855, no 77 gr, just plain Jane M193. It's hard to beat those results.
I've never seen any gel tests, in more than 30 years, that has differed from the results you have in this video. I would never choose M855 over M193, either.
I forgot who did the video but I saw one recently that interviewed several ammo manufactures who explained that until a round is moving above roughly 2000 FPS, the body's natural elasticity overcomes the kinetic energy. It only has the round diameter sized permanent wound cavity. Once a round is moving above 2k FPS, it tears the tissue up to 3 inches away from the wound track causing far more bleeding and tissue damage.
Love to see that with a cheap 300 blackout round as well.
My bedside gun is a 300 blk pistol.
Walmart sells 5.56 🤔
Your dust cover work on that sexy rifle was perfect keep up the good work sir
Pistol is way more maneuverable in a small apartment in the city. I have a high cap S&W hanging out on the nightstand that will do just fine. All I have to do is hit them once in the right spot, problem solved. Sometimes I have the Ruger .357 out, too. That'll hurt someone's feelings enough to clear the air. Don't overthink it, people. It's not complicated. Chances of that happening are low, and I'm not looking for trouble. Guns are best used for sport.
Holy shit, I almost pissed my pants laughing when he licked the gun. Thank you for your service!
Karl the look on your face when you cleared that ball round and it hit the ground......damn that was money 🤣
Unfortunately they haven't made a holster for my AR pistol that doesn't make my pants fall down.
I agree, about the rifle. But, there’s a lot of places/states where you can’t walk around with a rifle. I can’t walk into a dentist office with a tricked out ar15. I can go almost anywhere with a pistol. My 2 cents
A few key points here are, he was using standard military ammo, which as he stated is not intended to kill as much as it is to wound. For a standard law enforcement officer patrolling the streets, at least where I live, only top level hollow points are allowed on duty, more lethal, less penetration. Besides, as we all must know, shot placement is key, and pistols are great for building clearing. Now, don't get me wrong, all my respects to this gentleman, I really like his channel and the great info he puts out here. I would agree on the fact if you could only carry one firearm in a going into battle situation, rifle would more than likely be best, because that is what most others would probably carry and have a reach and power advantage over a person with a pistol. There is a reason, wars are fought with rifles and not with pistols alone.
EDC: PISTOL
Going into battle: Short barrel/bullpup rifle.
When you licked that rifle I knew then, this s*** is serious
Glad you made this video, I've always said this. In a shtf or combat situation people are gonna be wearing lots of gear and that will definately affect the performance of hp ammo. Now me being an AK guy I like running a 10.5 inch barrel. Compact, a lot of energy and itil run any garbage you feed it.
Good stuff CSM! I have learned so much from you all at TR!
You should train with them. I've been through one class with them and plan to do more. It isn't cheap, but im am convinced there is no better training available even above their price.
SGM... not CSM
How long have I been saying csm?
Well your still an awesome green beret!
If I was closer to yall I would take a class but its a long trip and I don't have anymore vacation this year maybe next year I can make it out!
Awesome thanks Karl !! Appreciate ! South African Farmer
Glad you enjoyed it
I really like the cor bon polymer tipped 9mm. I like shooting cheap candles, they blow up real nice.
Totally agree! Rifle is primary, pistol secondary
Oohhh that's how you shoot a ballistic block with a pistol!!! My bad Karl . Hahaha😂🤣
Lets talk about this man's shot placement with that pistol.... gosh damn man. Impressive
Proper sight alignment and trigger press
@@TacticalRifleman do you pumpkin on post that close or 3 dot line up with iron sights for that distance? I noticed you had a optic as well and at that distance is the dot even visible as I am also wondering because I sighted my new optic in and can't see the dot at anything closer than 20 yards. So I'm wondering if point of aim hides the dot with the iron or if it's just due to it being sighted from point of impact....? Sorry for the long question here. Thanks in advance for any response 🫡 also thank you for your service!
Awesome Video as usual Karl and Rest of the Team
Glad you enjoyed it
@@TacticalRifleman always
Idk how anyone in their right mind could denounce a rifle in favor of a pistol? Like those people HAVE to be trolling. Same goes for the naysayers of 556 / 223 calling it a “weak” round. These rounds literally REMOVE limbs from people and cause extremely devastating center mass wounds that often cannot be come back from. Yes, shot placement is key; but when you have a high velocity rifle shot placement matters exceptionally less than with a pistol.
Some people just don't understand physics. A tiny little 22 caliber 55gr bullet may not seem like it's several times more effective than a 9mm or a .45, but it is when screaming out of the barrel at 3200fps. Speed kills.
Rifle cartridge’s terminal effect always trumps pistol cartridges. Also, it’s easier to shoot rifles… only benefits pistols have is light weight, carry convenience, and generally speaking, non-gun people tend to frown when we carry rifles around,
lol
I like the 12'' 6.5 Grendel.
Sound , sensible advice once again ..thanks man 🤙🏽
Thank you for giving us perspective & sharing you insights.
My pleasure!
This is truly a wisdom video. Choose a hand gun separately from the rifle. Thank you for teaching.
Whats crazy is that was a 55gr out a 13.7in barrel. You will see even better performance out a 16in, 18in, and ofcourse 20in!
Agreed
Ammo passes through one bad guy and into another, with the first having a sucking chest wound front and back. If the scenario is me against several bad guys, I would call that a good thing. Never plan on getting into a pickle like that.
2:46 Ball 9mm is 50 cpr these days lol I'm picking that shit up