What If Spain Broke Up?
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- In this video I talk about the hypothetical, yet unlikely, scenario of Spain's communities becoming independent, and Europe gaining several new countries.
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Would you want to see this happen? And are there any other countries in which separation is possible?
Nope I prefer a unified Espana
I think it's more realistic a united Aragon, a united Basque and a Independant Galiza or a union between Galiza and Portugal, TBH
Personally not a fan of a lot of European unitary nations. I think Spain needs to break apart. Could you do this for the UK with the 4 countries but maybe break england into its 6 regions.
@@tsareric1921 Where are you from?
@@tsareric1921 theres no officially recognised regions of England. as in below the UK parliament is nothing but constituencies, of which there are over 600. this is the case for England at least but not for Scotland wales and northern Ireland, however with them also, below each of their regional parliaments are only constituencies. so it would make no sense to break england up
A Portuguese guy: "How does Spain actually work?"
A Spanish guy: "Now seriously, how does Spain actually work?"
Portugal doesn't work at all
In a similar manner to the HRE and USA: *it doesn’t*
It’s better to think about it as a tensegrity statue (it wants to collapse, but tension won’t allow it) rather than a country
Im wondering how Portugal works
Basically every region in Spain thinks they will do very bad on their own. Pessimism unites us all.
@@juanausensi499 HAJAJAJAJ fr, la union europa han dejado claro a cataluña de que ellos nunca seran parte de la union si se independizen de españa
I heard here more times Extremadura than in one year of spanish's news.
Muy cierto
@@user-rt4ve7ks6u stop
Muy muy cierto
But Teruel still doesn't exist ;)
Canarias igual
"What if the Vatican broke up into 143 independent countries?"
World will become easy to live.
You'd have to cross 43 border checkpoints for salt.
there would be 10 inhabitants per countrie
No
@@henfer7687 you're being generous!
alternate title : what if spain pulled a "balkan" .
They just pulled A Yugoslavia
What if iberia was balkan
@@Insert-thing-here-Fan lol
They just pulled A South America
They want to balkanize the península
Spain: *brokes out*
Portugal: Everything like in the "old days".
@@jotascript03 and Olivença and the canary islands
@@NibanoTugano and Ceuta? They haven't even had time to change the flag yet...
Yeah but não quero ter problemas de emigração com os marroquinos
Oh well time to create the 5th empire
Why does Portugal wants to get our little Galicia 😢
Portugal's true goal, annex Gallica
Galicia's hidden goal: Reannex Portugal
@@paranodrum9171 *annex
Olivença
No no, Portugal haven't a goal of annex Galicia, but Galicia has a goal aganist Portugal
@@ap6480 *reannex
0:26 "How does Spain actually work?"
Me, a Spaniard: it doesn't
Lol
It still stands up, so somewhat, it's still working... Yet 🤣
Facts
Very true
Vamos tirando jaja
'What if Spain Broke Up?'
Every Hoi4 Mod: Sounds normal to me.
17-sided Spanish civil war
What if World broke into a thousand Trillion independent states????????
70 way civil war moment
@@Brixcrafter1 salty
I hope Spain breaks up
Just a fact: Andalusian is only a dialect of Castillian Spanish, not a language itself! And as it is mentioned in the video, all the autonomous communities that have independent movements do have other flag proposals (look for Andalusia's "arbonaida" for instance). This is such an interesting topic and a great video! Thank you for talking about it!
I didn't know that! Thanks
@@General.Knowledge
From what I've heard is that a lot of the dialects of spain used to be considered different languages but over time in the cities castilian spanish overwhelmed the regional languages.
Its apparently still considered a language for rural people
czcams.com/video/TOab-m7JXZI/video.html
This video talks about this a lot better and I might be misremembering.
Just like castillian spanish is a dialect of spanish
Dialects and languages are relativ. Someone from Berlin would undestand the same ammount of words when speaking to someone from the Netherlands as when speaking to me, an Austrian.
@@General.Knowledge Thank you for making such interesting videos!
Galicia can make a Union with the former province of Galicia in Poland, and create the Polish-Spanish Commonwealth
Hahhaha,Lewandoski and Iago Aspas in the Eurocup
And make an alliance with the celtic nations like Ireland.
much more natural to unite with the celts of ireland.
galicia-galician commonwealth, lesgoooooooo
cabralandia se alzará
This is quite accurate but Asturias and Cantabria would probably unite with Leon instead of Basque country and Navarra
A cantabric union would be nice, but I'm pretty sure basques wouldn't want to be part of any
i agree, he forgot to mention the hdi which would be the main reason why they wouldn't join, basque country would lost a lot of money
@@germangarcia6118 Basque Country and Galician separatism have build all their identities in "look how perfect would i look being alone" so no matter what, they'd stay alone.
Catalonia, on the other side, always brag in how perfect would be to be alone… yet they're so obviously obsessed with colonize Valencia, Balears and Aragon (at least half of it), so whenever the chance of unifying appeared, they'd tackle it down and force themselves in the head.
The rest would just don't know what to do, i feel pity of Extremadura
Since when you look at a spanish lingual map, only a small portion of Leon actually speaks Asturian, so MAYBE they could unite with Leon, but i think simply the two becoming a small country seems equally likely
Bueno, quizas con 17 paises + Portugal quizas algun pais Iberico ganaria Eurovision...
Ni con esas
no❤️
No creo
Portugal ya ganó
@@GlennWolfschoon era para disimular ¬¬
fun fact: in 4:07 you say Ceuta and Melilla to be "re-incorporated" to Morocco. They never were part of Morocco. Cheers
Spain itself was part of Morocco for a while, amigo
@Cat One Morocco was part of France. Spain was given the mountains so it stops bitching. And this lasted only 43 years.
On the other side, Tariq Bnou Ziyad invaded in 711 and the Almohad empire fell in the 1230s, and Granada lasted 260 years later. Thats between 520 and 680 years of colonization, amigo.
You can't compare lions and sheeps.
@@schma9lo189 amigo,that wasn't even morroco,by 711 Morocco wasn't even a concept and It was just a province more of the Umayyads,saying Morocco conquered Spain in 711 is like saying that the polish almost conquered Rusia in 1941 because by the time the germans invaded the URSS, poland was just a small territory of the german reich,same with Morocco being a small territory in the Umayyads by the time they invaded the peninsula
@@schma9lo189 spain was never part of morocco
@@schma9lo189 Are you on pot again? lol
Spain also has a huge problem with its underground economy, the regions with lower GDP and lower salaries usually avoid legally hiring (because you can't pay the same amount of taxes as in Madrid or Catalonia), that's why some of the statistics are somewhat inaccurate.
Same thing in Italy.
Madrid has the lowest taxes in all of Spain.
*andalusia entered the chat*
Andalusian is as much as a language as "American English".
yeah kinda
Depending on the place on Andalusia. It can be "American English" To "Australian English" but yeah, as a Spanish and Andalusian I have to say you are correct.
@@SrMikicas Yeah, I meant "American English" as in it's like 99.9% understable to any Spanish speaker.
I think Jamaican English is way harder to understand to English speakers than Andalusian is to Spanish speakers.
@@Albent Yeah, Galicia Language/dialet is more like Jamaican English, you almost totally understand it but it is almost another language from Spain, Catalan is more different and even though you can understand because it still has so many words similar or same as Spanish is another Latin language with lots of Spanish influence, and Basque country "Euskera" Is soo different that it is one of the few languages that come from a Pre-indoeuropean language, not Latin or nothing like it.
@@SrMikicas I know, I'm like 50% Galician (both maternal grandparents) and I have a Basque surname jaja.
Galician is without a doubt a language, not a dialect.
And Catalonian is a much more hard to understand, like it's a halfway between Spanish and French.
Well the Eurovision song contest would be *EVEN LONGER* I can tell you that.
😂
Well, maybe the semifinals, but...
@@Eddi.M. The spokespersons would take 2 hours to get through.
"What if Spain broke up?"
-Catalonians and basque: *hard party*
-Inner land territories: outrageous
-Andalusians and Murcians: you know what?... now that you mention it...
Alaska: I want to manage my own oil
California: We are the fifth largest economy in the world
Alabama: I am a Confederate.
New Mexico: I am Mexico.
Vermont and New Orleans: I'm French
...
Galicians: Se chove, que chova
"What if France broke up", including the possibilities of a unified Baskland and Catalonia.
now i want to know what if china or India broke up.
@@Remonlore But in France there are 15 regional languages. In Italy 10. In Spain 5.
When France made the French Revolution, an era of inevitable revolutions began throughout Europe, which bloodied the 19th century. The absolutist monarchies tried to prevent it, but could not. If a region becomes independent in Europe, we are all going to have the same problems in the short or medium term. Better to respect all borders and build a strong Europe.
@@Gloriaimperial1 In Spain there are 7/8 languages. The 5 ones are just the ones that have a official recognition in the institutions. France don't have them in the institution like that nor the educational system, look at the basque language there
@@SR-jr5nh Then France will have a pressure cooker, in Corsica, and soon in the Basque and Catalan lands in France, or German in Alsace and Lorraine.
@@Gloriaimperial1 As a frenchman who lived in Britanny and Alsace before moving to Paris, I can swear to you that no, neither of them would go. Firstly, because of money. Corsica would literally kill themselves if they even tried to go for independance, and Italy (only other country to really have a right to those lands) already stated they would refuse.
As for Britanny, they could sustain themselves if, for example, they allied with Ireland as celtic nations, but in truth, no young adult Briton (I include myself) wishes for independence. We are French.
And Alsace Lorraine is the most impossible for me. The EU would never accept it, and neither would the inhabitants. They are, compared to other regions, the most worried of Germany's increase in power. Because of History. Even after the reannexation, those people always believed themselves as french.
Thanks for comming to my TEDtalk.
brain: Greater Portugal reintegrates their Galician kinsmen
bigbrain: Portugal conquers all of Iberia and forms Lusitania.
And Mérida becomes the country's capital again
Jajaja Albacete conquers Europe
Portugal Will form Hispania.
They will find people of Spain helping
Gigantic brain: Brazil conquers Iberia and forms Nova Lusitania
It would be interesting to see “what if the us broke up?”
us unfriends csa and cali
the world would be a better place
@@crimsonflood1643 No Rodriguez. It would not. The is the most peaceful superpower this earth has seen since its history. Sure there are still conflicts. But for a superpower they are damn amazing. Better than any alternatives.
@R K lmao that was a good joke. I'm assuming it's a joke.
@@RenegadeShepard69 If you are out of touch with history and reality, sure it is, just for you buddy.
Spaniards if Spain broke apart: ¡Me cago en todooo! ¡No me lo creo!
What should that mean?
@@MalaysiaIsProChannel ''I shat all over myself'' meaning that they are scared (like all spaniards xd) and ''I can't belive it''
@@MalaysiaIsProChannel "Fuck everything! I can't believe it!" (literally "I shit on everything" but it's an expression)
Cagas-te todo ? Kkkkkkkkkkk
@@NibanoTugano É espanhol...
Greetings from Spain! Also, it was funny, I didn't know the different political parties had those names in English. An interesting video, indeed.
Greets from SPQR 🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵
The ERC's name in english just feels wrong
Ur cute
Teruel existe 😂😂😂
No son tan diferentes en términos de pronunciación
General Knowledge: "How does Spain actually works?"
Me, a spaniard: It doesn't.
Also, it's more likely that Asturias, Cantabria and La Rioja will join Castilla y León as a country, Galicia joins Portugal (or by themselves), the Basque Country will join Navarre and nobody else, and Andalusia will have the administration of Ceuta and Melilla. Murcia is more likely to join the "Aragonese Republic" than Andalusia. And Extremadura will join Castilla la Mancha and Madrid.
As a spaniard, this configuration makes more sense to me, because the cultures and rivalries between regions.
I don't think Extremadura will join Madrid. Sorry but we love more Portugal and Andalucía than Madrid.
@@marcosmartin8328 I'm sorry, I didn't count with the "madrileño factor" xDD
Por tradición histórica Murcia se uniría a castilla, antes del 78 estaba unida a Albacete, sobra decir que las dos castillas se unificarían, en teoría Valencia, Baleares y Cataluña se unificaría pero no veo a los Valencianos muy por la labor, Extremadura me pega más con Andalucia pero dudo con Castilla y Asturias me pasa lo mismo, dudo entre Galicia y Castilla. La rioja y cantabría claramente Castilla. Canarías por su cuenta
@@adriancampos8640 ya pienso lo mismo, pero si Cabo Verde es un pais independiente Canarias podría llegar a serlo.
@@droisi4288 Pero Cabo Verde tenía petróleo, no?
My father was Valencian, one irritation I hated the most while growing up in England was always constantly being told I was pronouncing Alacant(Alicante) wrong by English. " I'm going to Valencia again this summer to see my gran, we arriving in Alicant\Alacant" then you would get idiots correcting me " It's called Ali-caantee" . Then you would try to explain that your Valencian father and family pronounced it as Alacant. When you're a kid you just know what you've heard. They would insist it was wrong, at one time descending into argument saying Valencian isn't a language it's just Spanish. Also using Alacant as a derogatory word. This is why people seek independence when everyone doesn't want to recognise your language and trample all over it's identity.
The language, Spanish, is know as Castellaño as well
@@ericktellez7632 Don't you mean Mexican? Just joking . Yes I know a Welsh person that also said they also have the same irritation of being corrected in their own country by Englishmen.
It's Alacant in Catalan and Valencian (dialect of Catalan) and Alicante in Spanish. People who told you Alacant was bad are morons. In the 40s-60s Franco moved a lot of people from rural regions (Murcia and Castilla la Mancha) to Alicante through subsidies and incentives in order to de-catalan/valencianize it culturally speaking. For long all languages that weren't Spanish were outlawed or diminished by the central regime, spreading the notion they were rural, regional and low-IQ. Now 80% of the people living in Alicante, Elche and other similar cities in southern Valencia are Murcians, Castillans or their direct descendants and don't speak catalan or valencian nor are interested in doing that, which is a huge ass shame as it dilutes the place's cultural and linguistical heterogeneity.
My ex was from Alacant and knew and spoke catalan, she moved to Barcelona and met me. When I visited Alacant with her we could speak catalan freely without noone understanding us. Noone except an elderly woman in a pharmacy whose eyes started shining bright when she heard us because she remembered a time where that happened more often than not, kept us talking in catalan/valencian for 30 minutes before letting us go.
I've had similar experiences in Perpignan, southern France, where Catalan is still used albeit residually.
@@Seathal I never knew full story about what happened to Alacant that makes sense now. Yes my father's family were from La Safor a few miles north, where the old people very much still speak Valencian Catalan. Sadly it's becoming rare.
@@miikapekk5155 Hi! I'm from La Safor. We're actually one of the Catalan-speaking 'regions' were Catalan is most spoken as a first language per capita. Even more so than some places in Catalunya. Catalan is pretty much overwhelmingly the main language here and in the sorrounding 'shires' except for bigger towns and German/British/Russian colonies. Glad to see you remember your origins and honour the true historical name of Alacant. Thank you!
Andalusian is normally considered a Spanish dialect more than a different language
And it is,in Andalusia we have diferent andalusian dialects,but all of them are spanish.Hola,from Andalusia
@@grubhubdad9474 I know, I am andalusian too. But I was trying to be polite because some people claims it is a language.
Si sois los dos andaluces qué hacéis hablando en inglés?? 😂😂😂
@@manuam98 Para ser internacionales 😎
Because It’s a dialect
"Andalusian" is not a language. It's, actually, two dialect groups (western and eastern) of southern Spanish but we refer to their Spanish as Andalusian because it sounds different from the Spanish of Old Castille (Castillian) or La Mancha (Manchego). Using the local/regional endoglothonim is quite common in Spain but we all are aware they speak Spanish. The most spoken languange in Spain after Spanish is Catalan-Valencian (~4M natives), followed by Galician (~2M natives), which is part of the Portuguese Linguistic System. I don't understand the table you put in the video, it's very weird almost a "nonsense".
Spain: Broke Up
Portugal:finally,time to Portugal Master Plan
*portugal annex Galicia*
So the Azores and Madeira ask for independence, like the Canary Islands, if Spain breaks down.
@@Gloriaimperial1 Nice with copy/paste , LOL They dont break because they are "PORTUGUESE".
@@mbiga1978 I don't want Portugal or Spain to break down. Galicia is Spain.
If Spain ever breaks down (although it will last 15,000 more years) Madeira, Azores, Corsica or the Frisian islands in Holland will ask for independence, sooner or later.
Cape Verde and São Tomé and Príncipe were also Portuguese.
@@Gloriaimperial1 no they won't, because portuguese is a single culture and there isn't a divide through the country or islands, unlike in Spain
@@suRGEangl Unlike Spain, France, Italy, United Kingdom, United States, Russia, China, Romania, India, Belgium, Mexico, Nigeria ... and 100 other countries.
All medium or large countries have diversity. Spain has 5 regional languages. France 15 regional languages. Italy 10. Russia more than 100 ....
Is little Portugal unicellular? If Spain, hypothetically, ever broke down, the Canary Islands would be independent, like Cape Verde and São Tomé and Príncipe. How long would it take Madeira and Azores to say: "I love Portugal very much, and I speak Portuguese, but I want to be like Cape Verde?"
This will be interesting also portuguese here :)(omg I've never had so many likes thx)
galicia is part of spain
I've always wondered about this, thanks for the video!
🥳🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶
Thank you for watching! :)
only portuguese do, its hard to be the shadow of spain
“Another big issue would be that whether they would remain a monarchy, or become a republic”.
Shows the symbol of the Galactic Republic
Catalonia recently launched it's first own satellite (even before Spain itself), so a Catalan Galactic Republic is always possible.
as you comment on the video about the independent flags, in Galiza we have two different models apart from the official one. One is called the Estreleira, more political, nacionalist and pro-independence. The other one was designed by Alfonso D. R. Castelao, one of the most influential galician writers, and it has a mermaid with a shield in which is written "before dead than slaves" (denantes mortos que escravos)
very good video!
I am spanish and I never heard of that thing you called Murcia
General knowledge: what if spain broke up?
Me: what if china broke up?
China has before and will again.
@@wildermann9 No denying it there. They've had the most collapses than any other country in history.
@@seanbrummfield448 they are also one of the oldest nations, they had enough time to get that record
Probably will broke up in 200-400 years again. For 100 years ahead, they'll still be here
Independent east Turkestan , independent Tibet , Mongolia takes inner Mongolia , the rest of China can do whatever they want .
2:35, tell me you want to be Portugal, without actually telling me you want to be Portugal
That's exactly what Ceuta did...
@@David-Pla Ceuta didn't do that. The city was sold because it was unprofitable.
@@diogorodrigues747 but Olivença is Portugal caralho
@@NibanoTugano Olivença não foi chamada para esta conversa, até porque Ceuta e Olivença estão a mais de 500 km de distância entre si.
@@diogorodrigues747 no the city became Spanish because of the Iberian union
Bruh, I just noticed that the flag of Ceuta is basically Portuguese national flag + some municipal Portuguese flags
Some
@No One yeah I know, I just didn’t know the flag
@No One long Portugal.
@No One not really. It was portuguese, yes. Then became the Iberian Union then Portugal made the Restauration. Ceuta can choose between Spain or Portugal and choose Spain. They has chosen, their decision
flag of Lisbon
I've been waiting this video for -literally - years
Ross and Rachel reference is very timely with the reunion. Nice hypothetical discussion, 17 new country - Spain so actually 16 new addition to EU
Well I'd say he's right about 17 new countries... and not 17 more!
As if you take the count of 17 regions, differing from one whole Spain, they would become 17 new countries, actually. 😉
@@laurentloop5573 + 1 = 4 = 4 = 3 = 2 = 4 = 4 = 6 = 3 = 5 = 5
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No it's 17minus1
There's no way in hell any of them would be accepted as new EU members.
"What If Spain Broke Up?" By a Portuguese. Yeah, it's not personal at all LOL I promise
Independent Canary Islands? I already see Azores and Madeida say: I want to be like the Canary Islands, Brazil and Angola
@@Gloriaimperial1 there was one politician that actually tried to do it, in both archipelagos. But neither Azores nor Madeira could pull it off, speacially Madeira that gives more debt than profit to the mainland
@@guilherme832 I hope that no one understands that I want the independence of Madeira and the Azores. I say the same thing to some French people who think they are vaccinated because France is a centralist country, and they speculate on the unity of Spain. I tell you that this independence thing begins in Spain, Belgium, Scotland, Corsica or Quebec, and nobody knows where it will end, because politicians are mimetic, for better and for worse. And yearnings for independence that previously did not exist in any region, and external pressure groups, such as Russia and China, or multinational companies, may arise unexpectedly, creating a problem for you in any region. In Catalonia, the Russians and Georgos Soros are interested in a plan to destroy Europe. If they cannot with Catalonia, they will try elsewhere.
And split mainland Portugal to Algarve and Portugal
@@guilherme832 don't be so naive. Madeira has such big deficits precisely because the central government is there to finance their debt. If they went independent, they would have to make the necessary changes in their public finances to no longer have unsustainable deficits. This is all politics.
The break up of Spain would end La Vuelta España. And that would be the real tragedy!!! :-)
No more football league
La vuelta iberica y liga iberica (bum problema solucionado)
I was thinking about this a few days ago. I see so many different flags and languages in Spain, people not really identified with what Spain is or should be. In my opinion the fact that Spain still exists to this day as it is it's a miracle
You should search information about the first Spanish Republic. You won't believe it hahaha
Not sure why you say people do not identify with Spain. What people do you mean? Spain as a unified country has more years and history than most European countries. And having different languages is no issue, that is quite common in Europe, almost any region had at least originally its own language. Countries like France, Germany, Netherlands etc though impose one language over the others, making them almost extinct. However in Spain the conservation of its languages has been more active except in a few times.
So having different languages is part of being Spanish, something to be proud of
@@lorenos I was watching a youth tournament this weekend, I've seen Andalusian, Basque, Valencian, Galician and Catalan flags in the crowd, also some flags with Arabic, Catalan and Euskara mottos written in them. I didn't see any Madrid flag when madrileño teams played, but I've seen the Spanish flag. That's why I was thinking how miraculous is the fact that Spain exists to this day. I believe your separatist movements and overall regional identity have a huge influence on people's lives. I'm Brazilian, and although we also have our regional flags, almost everyone in the country uses the Brazilian flag to show who they are, despite the fact that Brazil could easily become 20 different countries based on regional identities
@@sergioponce7464 I know some stuff about the political movements that happened in Spain since the 1800s, which makes me wonder how the country (not considering lost overseas territories) still exists, it's really fascinating/disturbing
@@ferrenberg I live in Andalucía, people are proud here of their Andalucían identity, but 99% of people here feel Spanish to the root. I understand this is quite shocking to foreigners, but it is like that. In Galicia the most voted party since decades is PP, a deep rooted Spanish party. That is not in opposition to feel galician. Same goes for Valencia. In the last 20 years Valencia became the official venue for the national football team matches, and the stadium is always full to the top. In Catalonia it is true that it might be nowadays somehow different, still vote by vote, independentist parties do not reach 50%. Furthermore, in the 80s support for independence there was around only 20%.
Madrid is different, the comunidad de Madrid is not historical, it never existed, it was created in the 70s, that region before belonged to Castilla, always. That is why people there do not have a sense of historical belonging to Madrid, so to speak.
There is a fact easily visible, Spaniards within Spain show their local sentiment, their flags, proudly, but when going abroad they gather together and speak proudly as Spaniards, not as an andalucian, asturian, or whatever.
I am not saying things may not change, nothing last forever in human history, but Spain has been a united, strong country for 500 years, with its languages, cultures and customs. But to be honest, at the end of the day we are pretty much similar, you recognize a Spaniard from miles away. Most European countries are not that old. So if Spain will break apart some day, will not be due to its different languages and flags, cause it has been already united for centuries with all those things
Dang...you can just hear his Portuguese accent by hearing the way he says "Navarre" (Navarhh) and "La Rioja" (La Hioha) this is because R is sometimes an H in Portuguese
By the way, you said “ ... while Extremadura and Valencia have the highest at 80.” It’s not Valencia but Murcia*** 😅
The suggested merge of territories gave me a shock. I mean, the logical unions wouldn't be like that, it would be like:
Castilla: Castilla La Mancha, Madrid, 6/9 of Castilla y León, La Rioja, Cantabria and maybe parts of Extremadura
Portugal: Portugal and Galicia
Asturias/León as a Two-state confederation: Asturias + 3/9 of Castilla y León and the northern half of Extremadura (and maybe the Miranda do Douro/Tras-os-Montes chunk of Portugal?)
Euskadi: Basque Country, Navarra and the Iparralde region
Aragón
Andalucia: Andalucía and maybe Ceuta and Melilla
Canary Islands
Catalonia and Aran: Catalonia, Balears, València, Andorra and Rosselló
Murcia would be a difficult issue since it has influence on parts of Castilla La Mancha (Albacete) and Valencia (Alacant), but it could be a part of Castilla, since it's very attached
almeria doesn't want to be part of Andalucia, nor Leon of Castille.
Southern Cáceres has nothing to do with León province, let alone Asturias.
“I like that Spain exists”
Are you sure you’re a Portuguese?
Of course he is, if Spain didnt exist who would be the butt of our jokes?
@@afwhite888 brazil
Do Portuguese dislike Spain? That's sad to hear :c
@@ushiki2212 More like love/hate
@@ushiki2212 sad?? why??
I've liked a lot the video, congratulations!
But as a valencian, I need to correct you a big mistake: Every time you refer to 'Valencia' you are refering to the Valencian Community (Comunidad Valenciana in spanish or Comunitat Valenciana in valencian), which is the real name of the autonomous community. Valencia is just the name of one of the three provinces that constitute the Valencian Community, being the other two provinces Castellón and Alicante.
Don't worry, this is also a very common mistake even inside Spain!!
10:03 - I wouldn't say Andalusian (Andaluz) is a language different from Spanish but an accent instead
That's wrong. Andalusian has some sound correspondences with Spanish and Portugese (being a Romance language), but also has a Mozarabic and Arabic substratum.
It's a dialect!
@@gerson2740 Dialect my ass. More closer than what the Chinese consider as "Dialects", but not close to be one in its own right.
A language is just a dialect that has been recognized as a language by its home nation. Anyone who tries to argue that in order for a dialect to become its own language there has to be certain amount of gramatical or phonetical divergence from it's parent language has no idea about linguistics.
All variations of arabic are considered dialects, a morocco arabic speaker will not be able to understand many words an iraqi arabic speaker says. Meanwhile danish, norwegian ans swedish are all different languages but completely mutually intelligible.
Go put your strict ideas somewhere else. Language is fluid, dialects are languages when their speakers believe so.
@@Innomenatus Dude, my father was from the La Macarena neighborhood in Seville and a large part of my family still lives there. Andalusian is not even a dialect, it's an accent. All they do is use the same words used in Castilian Spanish and pronounce them in their own particular way in the manner that someone from Boston pronounces "Car" as "Cah" or "Park" as "Pahk".
*Galicia breaks away from Spain*
Portugal: You could not live with your own failure. Where did it bring you? Back to me
Except it was Portugal who broke away from Galicia and not the other way around.
"Dear older brother, you can live with me now" more like this.
Lovely
😂😂 Galicia ❤️🇵🇹
It would make sense if it wasnt because it was Galicia who had Portugal
AH YES , THE PORTUGUESE DREAM
no
Kinda, not really. You see it's a complicated relationship, we love Spain but then we hate Spain.
@@sebastiandomingos335I am portuguese
@@offguy9939 cool
Very true
Incredible work, merci beaucoup!
I’m canarian and I wouldn’t like this to happen, we really depend on mainland Spain to survive here
Chicharrerooooo chicharrerrooo chicharrerrooo de corazoooooon❤️❤️
Los adoptamos. ¿Quieren ser el estado número 33? 🇲🇽
Wouldn't you guys join a different country like Portugal or France? I know Morocco is definitely not an option
@@elharvey5032 If they got a chance they'd invaded the same way they are invading West Sahara
@@manuam98 unlike the moroccan sahara*,the canary islands were never ours.educate yourself before speaking nonsense.
It's interesting that Ceuta uses Portugal's coat of arms on their flag, taking back to when Portugal ruled Ceuta.
There would probably be huge consequences in France which has a French Basque Country and a French Catalunya (Roussillon). There are small reunification movements in these territories and independant Basque Country/Catalunya would probably have a fever of irredentism regarding their "lost" territories to France.
Based. Perpinyà is Catalunya!
"De Santander a Puertollano todo es campo castellano" is a phrase used by "castellanistas" (supporters of an united Castille) which basically aims to the reunion of what nowadays is Cantabria, La Rioja, Castilla y León, Madrid y Castilla-La Mancha. So if Spain broke apart, these Autonomies would likely be merged together so as not to be very small (tho the region of León could maybe join Asturias and Extremadura could join this new Castille)
Sabes de sobra que León no va con Castilla ni a coger duros 😂
Spain has always been diverse, all conflicts and civil wars have always been motivated by trying to unify and homogenize them. In fact, the Spanish empire was torn to pieces when the Bourbons won the Spanish War of Succession and tried to imitate the French centralist model. Spain has only one viable solution, or it will stay united in diversity or it will break into pieces.
You mean unity through Nationality? Because Spain has different ethnic groups yet they're all native to Iberia that was the purpose of Spain
@@elharvey5032
Exactly, Spain worked well as a union of nations, even the Spanish empire was divided into Viceroyalties in America, which had their own autonomy. That is why we say that Spain did not have colonies in America, they were all territories of Spain with the same rights but with their own autonomy. The Spanish empire was not destroyed by external powers, as it has been falsely shown in the history written by the Anglo-Saxons, the Spanish empire destroyed itself when the Bourbon reforms tried to unify and centralize power. All the conflicts and civil wars that continue to this day are due to the same cause. Unfortunately there are still many Spaniards, who vote for parties like VOX, who still do not understand it.
@@nomecreona3829 Aren't most Spanish voting for Vox because they're Anti Mass migration, since the EU basically allows anyone to enter
@@elharvey5032 Vox has repeated many times that the current government is the worst in 80 years, that clearly implies that they prefer the government of the Franco dictatorship, one of its members has even been president of the Francisco Franco Association, which is something like the Holocaust deniers but applied to Spain. Not only are they anti-immigration, they also want to suppress the autonomous communities to return to a centralist state and call almost all Basque and Catalan representatives terrorists. So you can get an idea of what kind of political formation we are talking about. Far-right radicals, which includes former members of neo-Nazi groups, supporters of Franco and groups close to fascism. If they have gone up in votes, it is because they have used the same advisers as Trump. You know, Goebblelian propaganda, massive spread of lies on the internet, easy slogans, populism, etc.
@@elharvey5032 Most Spanish don't vote for Vox, it is still a minority party but with a significant 15% of the vote. But that does not mean that all its voters are radical, some simply believe many of their populist lies, as happened with the Brexiters.
You nailed with the intro. Like a federation without federalism. It's curious how in English some names are written like in Spanish (León, Valencia, Extremadura...), but others have English variations (Navarra, Andalucía, Castilla...)
Can you please make a video about if a Celtic united state was created.
Approximately 7 celtic nations/regions currently.
It's on my list!
@@General.Knowledge Many thanks.
That's very, very unlikely to happen
@@se6369 it will never happen, but does not mean a quality video cannot be made based on "what if?"
@@-Aldandil- I hope he does. Galicia is one of the main 7.
I’m Spanish and this is a GREAT video.
Es una basura con datos anticuados y de habla inglesa, datos de notable escasa calidad personal saludos desde donde no hablamos español
@@thesurvivor75Ejercito Me da toda la sensación de que solo le estabas dando a las palabras sugeridas del teclado, por eso te ha quedado tal sinsentido.
Great final message! 👏👏👏
There are independence flags as well in other regions as in Galicia with a red star in the middle
I would be sad and I am not even Spanish.
Bruh
Love the video, keep it up.
Justo a question now, why is the royal shield of Portugal in the Ceuta flag???
Because Ceuta was an overseas territory of Portugal once.
You might notice the backround is like the flag of Lisbon
It was part of Portugal but they sold it to Castle like 500 years ago
It was Portuguese between 1415 and 1640.
It's not actually Portugal's shield (nor a former one), but rather a modification of it, if you look carefully
España es el país más fuerte del mundo, los españoles llevan siglos intentado destruirlo y no lo han conseguido.
Frase atribuida a Otto von Bismarck
Olha a Catalunha
Se calhar até e verdade. Se os próprios espanhóis não conseguem dividir Espanha quanto mais os outros
Sin ofender, pero la frase me parece muy graciosa 😂😂
😂😂 cuánta razón tiene el tío Otto..👏👏 este hombre tuvo un pensamiento muy acertado.
I think I have seen all your "What if X Broke Up?" videos and this is the first one where you put a disclaimer, or at least such a strongly-worded disclaimer. Then again I don't know if you ever featured a video like this for a country which has sizable separatist movements.
I’m actually impressed with your video. Thank you for putting the disclaimer at the beginning and at the end. I personally wouldn’t want to see Spain broken up at all. I think, that the fact that it has such a wonderful diversity within its borders makes it even better. It reminds me of the U.S.A. In such that it’s got such huge regional differences. I live in the Pacific Northwest of the country and we do not like being compared to any other part of the country. As a matter of fact we in Oregon and Washington have more in common with British Columbia, Canada than we do with the rest of the U.S. We even have a flag that represents us in Cascadia. It’s called the Doug flag or Cascadian flag. This flag is more about the love of living communities in our bioregion. That said, I am a proud American and couldn’t see us apart from the rest of the country. And although a lot of us like the idea of a Cascadia Republic, it’s just that; an idea. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side...
Yep. I think Federalism allows regions to be distinct. Independence doesn't make things better, it makes them worse. You are smaller, less economy and military, a pushover for others. Calls for independence have a reason, just find it and address it.
@@shorewall South Sudan is the greatest example...
@Google Mexico you should Google South Sudan Mr Google Mexico lol. When the East African Federation is formed South Sudan will join it and it will end up being better for them than being with their culturally hostile northern neighbor Sudan. It's all a part of approximating South Sudan to the EAF block, I don't think this truly small and difficult to grow and work work country would want to be alone in the world like that, that'd be terrible for them indeed!
Probably (as an Aragonese), Aragon will join one of the Castillas instead of joining with the Catalan speaking areas, because in Aragon we do not speak Catalan :)
Aragon doesn't speak catalan mainly, but the catalan counties were proportionaly the catalan is more spoken are in Aragon Comunity (they haven't received so Spanish immigration).
I guess you only care about language...
Well, if you see the history aragon would go with Catalonia valencia and balearic islands
As a Leonese, I have to warn you. Joining Castile would be the biggest mistake you could ever do.
@@otpascual471 yea, but nobody would join, valencia and aragon are now with low catalans, only balearics would maybe join
Wtf man, dividing Castille?Joining Murcia and Andalucía? And what's that cantabric sort of confederation?
Fun fact: Castilla y León doesn't have a capital. It should, but it's location was never decided (probably in order not to create tension between the different regions) so the different institutions are distributed among the biggest cities.
@@saulgoodman292 no, eso es lo que se creen los pucelanos. Son tan capital de Castilla y León como de la Comunidad Valenciana o de Senegal.
@@saulgoodman292 No, de hecho se ha propuesto un par de veces que lo sea pero nunca se ha intentado porque el resto de provincias probablemente votaría en contra es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_de_Castilla_y_Le%C3%B3n
Valladolid no es la capital?
@@ARCPolus ... Exactly what i thought .
Either that, or i was lied to for a year by the madrileños 🤔
I could see this happening if Catalonia leaves because it could cause a domino effect over the entire country.
True
@Adrian Perez Mendez Not even close lmao, the Spanish military is pathetic.
False
@INDIAN NIGGA “never”. Do you think that in 500 years Spain will still be Spain? Wow
@Adrian Perez Mendez Greece and Poland stronger...? LOL
When I firsr saw the title, I assumed it'll be just a lazy list video, listing all the autonomous communities as countries. I'm glad I was wrong, this video is quite interesting, exploring the stats like religions, economies etc. Good video
Fisirerr🥶🥶🥶🥶
Just an amazing video!
Can you do this for Ethiopia next? Ethiopia has 9 regions that is devided be ethnicities and 2 chartared cities. It would be cool to see the what if senario while allowing your viewers to see our side of the world.
As a Galician I am happy to join Portugal, be independent or remain Spanish
You are not Galician. Nobody wants to join Portugal but many in Portugal would like to join Spain
@@jabato9779 You should see Galician reintegrationism
@@jabato9779 Are you drunk? We been fighting Castile since our independence just so we don't join Spain. We love the Spanish people but we are proud Lusitanos here.
@@Alejandro_Estevez ¿Reintegración de qué? ¿Del reino suevo? Entonces el norte de Portugal pasaría a Galicia y, por tanto, a España.
@@wonderwiseS2 30% of Portugueses twitter.com/electo_mania/status/1433457045466927105
Hey! I'm Spanish and I really enjoy the vid. Thank you entertaining me, I'll subscribe to the channel :)
Catalonia will eventually become independent.....for another 7 seconds 🤣
Maybe this time they reach 8 seconds. Who knows 😜
If Catalonia became independent, the flag wouldn't be the estelada ( flag with the blue triangle ). The official flag would continue being the senyera ( without the blue triangle )
Perquè? No ho entec, l'estelada respresenta catalunya com a un estat, l'actual es de la comunitat autònoma, es com cuba, i puerto rico, també li van afegir l'estrella a la seva bandera per simbolitzar que són un estat independent.
@@llucweinbrecht5255 La bandera catalana es la senyera, la estelada sólo es la del movimiento independentista, entiendo que de todos modos habría algun tipo de consulta popular de cara a elegir la bandera
@@llucweinbrecht5255 Perquè la senyera és la bandera històrica que porta representant Catalunya des dels comtes de Barcelona del segle XI
@@llucweinbrecht5255 La estrella está incluida por puro capricho izquierda/socialista. Punto.
@@DonCristian_DPB No pas, com molt bé diu el nano al vídeo l'estrella ve de Cuba, sí, però no la d'ara, la de 1898, la que va aconseguir fotre el camp d'Espanya.
Now, let's do a "What if France left the EU, causing France to break apart ?".
I disagree with the amount of "new" countries, in that there would be , Galicia, the Basques, the Catalans and the Castilian/Leonese, maybe Asturias could become a "new" country, I base my premise on the language/culture of the regions I mentioned, oh the Canaries and Ceuta yes would become "new".countries .. good thought experiment , Abraços mano, gosto imenso deste canal , Tuga Rulez LOL (EDIT)
Morocco would easily annex those and take them back in that case.
@@bluemoon4961 Only Ceuta, I doubt the Canary Island would be annexed, the Inhabitants of the Canaries are Castilians, mostly
@@bluemoon4961 Language isn't as much as a unifier as you might think, local economies and politics are much more important when it comes to forming new governments.
@@castrejo67 Yeah, I guess so
@@youtoob4life Wasn't basing that on language or culture really, more like geography, imagine Morocco sieging the two cities, they'd suffer terribly and fall eventually.
The fact that General Knowlage used countryballs on the thumbnail
Countryball drawers (like me) : ;)
Reincorporated into Morocco? Ceuta and Melilla were never part of Morocco
they were and they will
@@alinobunaga They weren't part of today's Morocco. That's like calling the Roman Empire Italy
@@se6369 funny how this rule doesnt apply to you when you asked the UK to take back gibaltar lmao.
Whatever !! we’re taking what’s ours sooner or later.
@@alinobunaga Gibraltar was part of Spain, but I never said what I think about Gibraltar.
Sure! Good luck fighting all of NATO!
@@se6369 see what i am talking about? Spanish Hypocrisy 😂😂
And who said we’re fighting nato? Come on we’re not algeria or the current spanish government 😂😂😂
Funny how Ceuta has the portuguese shield 😂😂
The flag is cntrl C + cntrl V of the flag of Lisbon hahahaha
Personally, I would see it making more sense that Ceuta and Melilla (and the other plazas de soberania) joined Andalucia given the locations and apparently it (wikipedia) says that the modern region of Ceuta is culturally similar to Andalucia, so I doubt they would join Morocco, and the only posible way I see Morocco controlling them is by a conflict.
As a andalusian I confirm this
As an amused Yankee, it amuses me that Spain wants Gibralter back but won't surrender Its Moroccan cities. And Puerto Ricans can't make up their mind: 1/3 want to stay as is, 1/3 want to be a state, and 1/3 want independence. Politics in general amuses me, equal opportunity-like. Please don't flame me 😲
@@grizwoldphantasia5005 the difference between Ceuta or Melilla compared to Gibraltar is that Ceuta and Melilla were NEVER Moroccan (just like the Canary islands or the western Sahara), however Gibraltar was Spanish land that the English illegally claimed
@@Ylyan_VL those two cities were as legally obtained as the Iberian peninsula was obtained from the Moors, or the United States was obtained from the natives.
@@grizwoldphantasia5005 No. Spain did not conquer those lands. It was Portugal that conquered those lands during the "reconquest". Later, when the "Iberian union" separated, Spain kept Ceuta and Melilla. In addition, Northwest Africa has almost always been part of the Iberian Peninsula, from the time of Al-Andalus to the time of Hispania.
idc about any region except galicia, where the main pro-independence party BNG (bloque nacionalista galego) has 19/75 seats in the parliament. they're similar to portugal but i like having more countries in the world so
Your view is interesting, however I think, as a catalan, that some joints of states would be different. There would be a huge central state (greater castille) containing Madrid, Castilla la Mancha, Castilla y León (without the León part), Cantabria, la Rioja and (maybe) aragon.
Catalunya would be on its own or altogether with València and Baleàrics, but never going altogether with Aragon.
Basque country + navarre would be a state named Euskadi
Galícia would federete either with Portugal or with asturias and León (half of Castilla y León)
I agree on your view on the south
nah galicia would be independent
Basque Country + Navarra, it would be called Euskal Herria since "Basque Country" is already called Euskadi. And Euskal Herria is what is known as Euskadi + Nafarroa plus Iparralde (area in French territory)
Portuguese here... If Galicia wants to join Portugal that's fine by me 😈👀
Fine by me too
General Knowledge is also Portuguese
Nope.
This sounds awfully naughty, but yes please 😈
🤡🤡 azideia alekk vo pega minha marretaaaakk
Love your videos. Can you please do one for Australia? Unlikely but with all the COVID-19 there's definitely more animosity between states than when I was younger so just curious what it would be like. Thanks.
I lived in Granada, Andalucía quite a few years ago. I was told by many people there that they see themselves in this order: 1st Andalucian 2nd Spanish 3rd European. The feeling that I got was that most people were happy with the level of autonomy their region had, as it grants them enough individuality and identity whilst still maintaining the protection and advantages of a strong nation (Spain)
Totally. There were pro-independence parties in Andalusia, once upon a time, but they never got more than 3-4% of the vote, and they have disappeared. It's like Cornwall and England. Not even Wales (which does have its own language). Andalusia and Spain identify very well, especially abroad, with the same language, the same majority Catholic religion.
If Spain broke apart, Asturias wouldn't join Cantabria and the Basque Country but the historical region of León (the provinces of León, Zamora and Salamanca, and maybe even Northern Extremadura)
This video was awesome! Only one unimportant thing, Melilla is spelled Meliya, not Melila
*Pronounced.
@@GTAVictor9128 No se si nos podemos considerar conocedores del inglish nosotros hablamos spabinglish
Great graphics!
Very interesting. Good video.
Spain went from "The empire on which the sun never sets" to "what if Spain broke up". Big oof to the former masters of my country.
All large countries have many regional languages and some independence movements. If you are an insignificant country, because you are small, you have no problems. If you are big, and Spain breaks down, the flu will come to you.
@@Gloriaimperial1 Eso es una referencia a la gripe española? La trajeron los estadounidenses solo se llama así por que la prensa española era la única sin censura
@@thesurvivor75Ejercito Hablaba más bien de la gripe para hablar de contagio, de que el independentismo nace en un lugar de Europa y se extiende, por si creían algunos extranjeros que pueden hablar de que España se rompería, alegremente, mientras ellos conservarían su integridad territorial. Pero también es bueno recordar que la gripe, como dices, no se originó aquí. Es la misma leyenda negra: cuando no nos endosan la gripa puñetera se creen que vamos a rompernos, o que estamos todo el día con la Inquisición.
but one thing:
andalusian is NOT a language, it's a group of dialects
Ya
Exactly. There was an Andalusian language, centuries ago, and it was Arabic origin. I'm shocked that got to the final version of the video.
that's true how we speak in western Andalusia has nothing to do with east andalusia
@@tuggaboy but its obvious that it is not in use in current times
El andalûh çe dîttinge una mihita del câtteyano, por dêgraçia no tenemôh îttituçionê que lo defiendan. Mientrâh çigamôh çin yamâl-lo idioma propio, çegirá çiendo un dialêtto.
"How does Spain actually work?"
spaniards: wait, it works?
Just to clarify. Catalonian and basque independentist movements are the rly heavy ones. There's no official data, but I'd say less than 5% of andalusians and Galicians would like to be independent while more than 35% of basque and catalan people would like It. Makes sense considering these are the most industrialized and richest regions in Spain. Good video😁
Btw: Andalusian is not a language but a dialect
Portugal: time to take my position
can you do: "what if Italy broke up?" Anyway good video!
Spaniard/Catalan here. Andalusian is a dialect of Spanish, it doesn't have any own grammar or syntax to distinguish it from Spain, it's just a thicker particular accent with some mannerism and segregated unique lexic. Still a dialect. Fala, Asturleonese and Aragonese are pretty much extinct dialects. Occitan is its own language and is also spoken in southern france, but really minor in Spain (mostly isolated communities in Northern Catalonia brodering France, Val d'Aran). The true full languages in Spain are Spanish, Catalan, Galician and Basque, all of them with own historical roots, grammar, syntaxis, full vocbabulary and unique structures, all of them coming from Romance Latin except Basque, which is it's own weird thing.
As per Religion. Churches are mostly empty, with almost exclusively elderly people in them. Muslims, Jews and other religions are very minor and even though they own some places of cult they hold basically 1st wave migrants. All young people are agnostic, atheist or, like me, baptized and "officially" catholic but atheist in practice. I'd say 90% of people are atheistic or any other variant.
The stereotype of a unified Spanish, speaking only spanish, doing siestas and fiestas all the time, and being devoutly traditional and catholic is entirely fictional.
Asturleonese, Aragonese and Fala are extinct dialects? You don't know what you are talking about... Asturleonese is actually a living language and it's official in Portugal with the name "Mirandese".
"The stereotype of a unified Spanish, speaking only Spanish... is only fictional"
PS.: But we're okay with Spanish being forced down people's throats in Asturies, Aragón or Xálima valley and even have Castile assimilating Llión.
can you do this with other countries because this was very interesting
Portuguese wet dream: Ceuta become the piece that detaches the entire Spanish territory 😂
But if Spain, which has a 500-year history with much worse crises, hypothetically breaks down, the Canary Islands would become independent. Then the Azores and Madeira would say: "I too am an island. I love Portugal very much, but I want to be an independent country, like Brazil or Angola."
@@Gloriaimperial1 that would not happen. Spain would only divide in 2 or up to 4 countries.
Cataluña
Galicia
País Vasco
The rest of Spain
@@HibiTeamQueso Spain is not going to be divided, neither in 8 nor in 3 nor in 2 countries. Independence does not win in any Spanish region. Independence would mean the expulsion of Europe from that region. So the independentistas would drop to less than 30%, because outside of Europe it is ruin. Remember that Spain, as the titular state in the European Union, has the right of veto. We do not recognize the independence of Kosovo, of Serbia. Less are we going to recognize the independence of any Spanish region. In France there are two regions called French Catalonia and French Basque Country. France would also apply the right of veto, because otherwise it would commit suicide. Spain has a strong Constitution that all the states of the European Union consider must be complied with. In addition, we say the same thing as Canada regarding Quebec: "There can be no referendum in Quebec. All Canadians decide together. Because the independence of any region affects all Canadians". Spain has made much progress in recent decades (except in the 2 crisis: 2008 and pandemic, which affects everyone), we are going to have a much higher standard of living and economic and political power in this century. That is going to defeat many European clichés, which nationalists have exploited to try to create Swiss nationalists and selfish.
The attempts of independence in Catalonia have only taken place in times of crisis: 1640 (when Spain was at war with all of Europe). It should also be remembered that Catalonia sells more than 70% of what it produces to Spain. And that (as in the Basque Country) we have to pay the high pensions of Basque and Catalan pensioners. In addition, the rest of Spain (especially the south) will reduce the economic gap, and it will be the direct competition of the regions that can think about independence. Madrid has already done it. This will also lighten Catalonia's contribution to total GDP, they will not have to give as much. Now it is Madrid, who distributes the most, in national solidarity, with all regions. That will allow more advantageous agreements to be made for Catalonia, because it will not be so decisive in GDP. In recent decades it has gone from representing 25% of GDP, to 20%, and now 16%. And it is probable that the independentistas sink Catalonia up to 10% of representation. A shame, because Catalonia is an engine.
@@Gloriaimperial1 ya veremos qué nos depara el futuro 😁
@@HibiTeamQueso Sé lo que dijeron los independentistas en 1640, 1936 y 2014, y lo que dirán en el año 3800 ;)