Should You Avoid The RetroFlag Joy-Con?

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
  • When we received the RetroFlag Handheld Controller for Switch last month we were blown away, we loved everything about it from its GameCube inspired aesthetics, features and of course, the Hall Effect sensing joystick modules used that mean the sticks can never drift.
    After using them for the past month, putting it through rigorous tests and just general use, we've found some glaring issues with the design and function of the controller. There's things we absolutely love and then there's things that just downright don't work well at all.
    As frequently asked for, here's our review of the RetroFlag Handheld Controller Joy-Con alternative for the Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch OLED. We cover thing in detail, including specific tests that YOU asked for during our first impressions video, which can be seen below.
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    4:42 Rumble... & Another Issue
    5:30 Gyro Is Broken
    5:53 Joysticks, Hall Effect, Deadzone etc.
    6:37 D-Pad, Face Buttons, Triggers & Your Issues
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Komentáře • 110

  • @Brain_pocketer
    @Brain_pocketer Před rokem +33

    Reminder: this is registered as a pro controller on the switch, which is the reason you had weird gyro. On most games, when the pro controller is flat, you move it up, down, left and right. Due to this controller registering as a pro controller, the switch thinks it’s a pro controller being held upright, which means it will register tilting as moving left to right.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +4

      That is an excellent point that I completely missed! Shame though, no one's going to play this with it laying flat 😅

    • @_WiZ420
      @_WiZ420 Před rokem +5

      well that’s why you change your tilt style to index and pinky

    • @june5093
      @june5093 Před rokem

      ​@@_WiZ420 the tilt style can be changed?

    • @_WiZ420
      @_WiZ420 Před rokem

      @@june5093 uh, yea? Just do it a different way lol

    • @victoria-9307
      @victoria-9307 Před rokem

      @@_WiZ420 oh that's crazy i had no idea that could be changed.

  • @nyjay
    @nyjay Před rokem +16

    Thank you for pointing out the rail scratch issue. Other CZcams reviewers didn’t even mention it, and I only found out in Amazon from user reviews, just before I almost bought it.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +1

      You're welcome, sucks it does that :(

    • @nyjay
      @nyjay Před rokem +3

      And I feel you on being OCD w my gadgets! Really I do it for just my peace of mind, but as a bonus down the road, I usually get a good resell value on most of my old gear for when I’m upgrading, so it’s always good to have your devices in mint condition anyway.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +1

      @@nyjay my thoughts exactly! I also hoard boxes for tech for that very reason 🤣

  • @BoomBoomPew012
    @BoomBoomPew012 Před rokem +3

    Great video as always! Luckily, I got mine with no problems and I'm in love with the controller. Two concerns which I noticed after using them for the first few days was the weight, and the d-pad. It was really heavy, but after a week I got used to it. It also adds to the sturdiness of the switch, so I won't get worried with my switch and rails bending. The other concern was the D-pad. They were able to mimic the D-pad of the pro controller to a T. Including their sensitivity issues. Holding the arrow down button and just slightly tilting your thumb to the left or right would trigger them. I play fighting games with the D-pad, and I completely miss strings and combos. So they're useless to me at the moment. I'm waiting for a teardown video for this controller so I could add tape to the arrow keys to fix the issue.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +2

      Thank you! Glad you don't have any issues, despite the issues I've faced I still really like it haha! Bah sucks you've had issues with the D-Pad :/ I'll think about doing a teardown in future

  • @kojithecow4758
    @kojithecow4758 Před 7 měsíci

    I love your reviews so much

  • @mndjr
    @mndjr Před rokem

    amazing! All the doubts I had (all of the) have been resolved in this video.unfortunately it has more flaws than I expected. Thank you very much for the Review, i was waiting for it to decide whether to buy it or not.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +1

      You're welcome!

  • @bravopapa137
    @bravopapa137 Před rokem +1

    Great review and great analysis. I have some questions. Would you prefer this specific grip/hand held style device out of ALL the available ones that we have out on the market right now? I play smash and THPS 1&2 quite often which requires a ton of analog stick play. I do own switch lite but joy stick drift is always on the back of my mind when playing these specific games ( I try not to play smash handheld most of the time; I just connect a GC controller via USB etc etc). That being said I do want to play handheld for the MAJORITY of the time I play these specific games especially smash, it just makes the transition easier and it is my preferred way of a playing. I have nearby friend that doesn’t use his regular switch anymore ( yes I know this is more compatible with the OLED but this is all I could get as of right now) and I am definitely going to snag it off him just for the price alone ($100). This grip came to mind once I found out it’s features, mainly the fact that it has a supposed anti drift mechanism in its joy sticks.... Anything helps, thanks!

    • @pde2619
      @pde2619 Před rokem

      Unsure if you’re still curious, but I use this controller with an OG model 2018 switch and it’s fantastic. The joysticks feel better than my switch pro controller and the dpad is great if you’re used to snes/8bitdo style dpads. The rumble is really nice as well which is a plus.

  • @PhilippeTuinman
    @PhilippeTuinman Před rokem

    Think I’ll need to pick one up next month for some upcoming traveling :D

  • @Crixus0983
    @Crixus0983 Před rokem +1

    Finally!! Great review!!!

  • @colbykong1325
    @colbykong1325 Před rokem +3

    I actually got the RetroFlag controller just because of the hall effect joysticks, the motion controls, and the rumble alone.

    • @bravopapa137
      @bravopapa137 Před rokem

      How is it so far? Any issues , complaints?

    • @Tony_Spilatro
      @Tony_Spilatro Před rokem

      @@bravopapa137 I don't like the gap between switch and joycons, dpad is excellent, sticks and buttons too, c stick gets dirty after while
      Sadly can't be used as a controller if connected through usb cable to switch
      (didn't try connecting it w usb-c female cable cuz I don't own one)
      Makes switch heavy but grip is better
      Can't fit into oem dock (Gonna try w 3rd party dock soon. hope that retroflag pd can output video)

  • @ianeinnorocampo8807
    @ianeinnorocampo8807 Před 11 měsíci

    How are the ABXY buttons? Are they clicky, mushy, or springy? Thanks in advance!

  • @AlejotheFATkid
    @AlejotheFATkid Před rokem +1

    This may be me being a old man but I really wish this grip had an octo-gate for the joysticks even if its just the left one.

  • @MaxGo777
    @MaxGo777 Před rokem

    I will be received the Retroflag JC's tomorrow. Has any figured out a way to prevent scratching on the Switch by the Retroflag Joy-cons?

    • @alankohen4856
      @alankohen4856 Před 11 měsíci

      ¿Encontraste una manera de no rayar el interruptor?

  • @RJC8968
    @RJC8968 Před rokem +1

    mine has no issue, just that the c stick is too small for me, planning to replace it in the future, the buttons are a little clicky in comparison to hori split pad, also planning to mod it a little to get that offset thing of the satisfye grip. otherwise good build and quality

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem

      Glad to hear it! Good luck on the mods! :D Would love to hear about it when you're finished

  • @DontMessWitUchihas
    @DontMessWitUchihas Před 11 měsíci

    I have this controller, but I don’t have the Nitro Deck controller yet. So I can’t do my own comparison. Can you make a comparison video between the two when the Nitro Deck launches in September? I’d really appreciate it, and I’m certain that others would too.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před 11 měsíci

      Absolutely, I've reached out to the guys that are doing the nitro deck and it seems positive so I'm hopeful for a review sample in the coming weeks, fingers crossed.

  • @Brandonhatesmayo
    @Brandonhatesmayo Před rokem +1

    Ive never noticed anything worth hd rumble besides 1,2 Switch. Still sounds nearly perfect.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem

      Yeah I get you, just the feel of the rumble in general is nicer from HD rumble imo

  • @JCGROOVEZ
    @JCGROOVEZ Před rokem +3

    My V1 Switch rails were scratched. I purchased a black paint pen and painted over the scratches.

  • @mctown972
    @mctown972 Před rokem +2

    I had mine for about a week now and the ZL trigger is starting to stick😒, waiting on a replacement from Amazon.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem

      Bah sorry to hear that

  • @_WiZ420
    @_WiZ420 Před rokem +1

    I never considered the right joystick placement an issue, but that’s because I’m also double jointed in my hands and felt nothing from it. Glad you covered even miniscule things like this

    • @MrMortenVutborg
      @MrMortenVutborg Před rokem

      double jointed in your hands? Say what?

    • @_WiZ420
      @_WiZ420 Před rokem

      @@MrMortenVutborg It's moreso the joints within the fingers, as there isn't much with the actual hand itself. You can also call it hypermobility, but since that name is probably less known I just didn't use it.
      In any case yea, I don't struggle to bend my fingers in a lot of ways that people generally would. I actually didn't know until later on in middle school that this was uncommon.

  • @smamurai
    @smamurai Před rokem +2

    From all the reviews I've seen this seems to be the highest quality joycons outside of Nintendo/Hori. I wish they'd make a non-gamecube style one, the c-stick while faithful to Gamecube doesn't seem practical for most games.

    • @Adertitsoff999
      @Adertitsoff999 Před 9 měsíci

      NYXI Hyperion series is better than Hori Split Pad Pro. NYXI have the best Joycons for handheld gaming.

  • @rogelioscar2
    @rogelioscar2 Před rokem +1

    I'm waiting for the in depth binbonk equivalent and the wizard ones

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem

      I'll get around to those as soon as I get time and have tested them enough! 😁

    • @nyjay
      @nyjay Před rokem

      Oh never mind. Found it in this same channel!

  • @ajx2956
    @ajx2956 Před rokem

    Love the design.

  • @_WiZ420
    @_WiZ420 Před rokem

    Are you able to take a female usb-C to male usb-A and connect this to a dock as if it were a pro controller? I dont have the cable to test this

  • @bleh3328
    @bleh3328 Před rokem

    Would putting a small piece of tape on the bottom sides of the switch, below the rails, stop it from getting scratched up?

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +1

      Possibly but that might just tear or cause issues getting it in/out

    • @bleh3328
      @bleh3328 Před rokem

      @@128KB you're probably right. Such a bummer this is the case tho. I just got mine and love how it looks/feels but after seeing how it scratches the switch I'm not sure about even using it.

  • @dolo.c4y972
    @dolo.c4y972 Před rokem

    anyone know of a good case for this controller?

  • @stevenbassett3359
    @stevenbassett3359 Před rokem

    Does anyone have case recommendations for use with this? I mostly play handheld and I take my switch to work with me for play on my lunch. Seems like I pain to take it in and out just to travel.

    • @miguelcoronado816
      @miguelcoronado816 Před rokem

      I bought the galaxy one for the hori split pad pro on amazon

  • @zrzmtz93
    @zrzmtz93 Před rokem

    Any case recommendations for this?

    • @CarrotsNotCake
      @CarrotsNotCake Před 8 měsíci

      Undoubtedly they'll make one. Dobe's comes with a case, though.

  • @marcelosantos4254
    @marcelosantos4254 Před rokem

    I know i'm 2 months late, but is there anyone who can recommend a case that fits this perfectly?

  • @josephjefferies346
    @josephjefferies346 Před rokem

    Will it still work when the rails scratched

  • @MrAngelv8
    @MrAngelv8 Před 8 měsíci

    Did you, or anyone else for that matter, run into the software bug with the oled? The oled will intermittently stop recognizing the controller when plugged in. The company released a firmware update that is supposed to fix it, but i have purchased 2 units and both of them had this problem. Even with the update, my oled switch doesn't recognize the controller unless it has the power passthrough plugged in also. If i unplug the power, the switch thinks the controller has been unplugged too. Very annoying.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před 8 měsíci

      I haven't had that issue before, that's the first I've actually heard of it too 😱

    • @dokz2939
      @dokz2939 Před 7 měsíci

      Mine now always disconnected idk why

  • @minvictor
    @minvictor Před rokem +1

    Just got one, the gyro is 100% in my unit, and the shoulder buttons are not behaving different from one another! A new batch, maybe?

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +1

      Possibly!

    • @cilonen
      @cilonen Před 8 měsíci

      Care to share the Amazon link?

    • @minvictor
      @minvictor Před 8 měsíci

      @@cilonen got mine from Aliexpress

  • @spectator6656
    @spectator6656 Před rokem

    There so many pros and unique specs about it that outweights the cons which is mostly design.

  • @ERosostolato
    @ERosostolato Před rokem

    Is it always going to scratch? Or is there a way to use it without harming the switch?

    • @BomboFeca
      @BomboFeca Před 9 měsíci

      I have it and no scratchs on mine.. the youtuber is just clumpsy

    • @HeavyMedals
      @HeavyMedals Před 9 měsíci

      @@BomboFecajust a friendly reminder that its clumsy not clumpsy.

  • @user-jx8je6ci6d
    @user-jx8je6ci6d Před 9 měsíci

    I wish it had a kick stand

  • @MrKickLai
    @MrKickLai Před 8 měsíci

    i press the + and - it doesn't control the volume?

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před 8 měsíci

      No, + & - are the equivalent to Start & Select. You need to use the volume control on the top of the Switch to control the volume.

  • @AllenE1968
    @AllenE1968 Před 11 měsíci

    I like this controller. The gyro and rumble is no big deal to me, I won't be using tthem.

  • @JosephTheRocker
    @JosephTheRocker Před rokem

    glad i waiting for your review. needed to hear the inevitable monkeys paw on this guy

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +1

      Yeah there's a few set back for sure, glad to have helped

  • @kennethlee1977
    @kennethlee1977 Před 9 měsíci

    i hope we can swap the right joystick. its small i hate it. other than that its good product

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před 9 měsíci

      Check out our video of the Nitro Deck, or our comparison against that and this on the channel

  • @jasonmxx
    @jasonmxx Před 9 měsíci

    not a fan of the nipple on the right side, just wished it just had a normal analog stick

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před 9 měsíci

      Fair enough, plenty agree with you but I enjoy the nipple.

  • @june5093
    @june5093 Před rokem +1

    The gyro malfunction is a deal breaker fore sadly 😢.

  • @jaypeelaguna8114
    @jaypeelaguna8114 Před rokem +1

    I don't like that it scratches the switch on its side rails.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem

      Yeah it's so sad it does that :(

  • @benblitzkrieg
    @benblitzkrieg Před rokem +2

    This or mobapad m6?

  • @nerdloftgaming
    @nerdloftgaming Před rokem

    The CRKD Nitro Deck seems to be a much better choice than the RetoFlag.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem

      Definitely, I've reached out to CRKD for a review sample but I highly doubt I'll receive one since I'm UK and currently the CRKD is only for US/Canada I believe. Keep an eye out though as we may receive one ;)

    • @Itss411
      @Itss411 Před rokem

      but its more expensive though

  • @Jesse023
    @Jesse023 Před rokem

    The trigger does stick.

  • @phillipbrown5897
    @phillipbrown5897 Před rokem

    My left stick has drift

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem

      That doesn't sound right, contact them or return it.

  • @tranwc
    @tranwc Před 8 měsíci

    Thank for the review. The weight can't be worse than a steam deck? ❤🎮

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před 8 měsíci

      Nah steam deck is heavier I'd say

  • @emlyndewar
    @emlyndewar Před rokem

    For me, it’s changed how I see the Switch. Infinitely more comfortable to hold and I’ve played so much more Switch since buying.
    I’ve not had any quality issues on mine (yet), but not really anticipating it. I just leave it permanently in there now.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +1

      Yeah it's a great controller!

  • @thunde100
    @thunde100 Před rokem

    Battery drain is a big problem for sure not worth it

  • @cgwworldministries83
    @cgwworldministries83 Před rokem +1

    Why didn’t they move the usb to the top? And scratches? Hard pass.

  • @9unslin9er
    @9unslin9er Před rokem +1

    Are you getting paid handsomely for these reviews? The actual user reviews for this on Amazon aren't great...
    Not really trusting your channel much.

    • @128KB
      @128KB  Před rokem +7

      You've clearly not watched the video and instead basing your opinion on title alone (which I've now changed). I found fault with almost every aspect of this controller so how can you possibly say that? They pay us nothing at all otherwise we'd have to declare paid promotion. Next time watch the video before assuming, or maybe you're just a troll.

    • @9unslin9er
      @9unslin9er Před rokem

      @@128KB No, my problem is not with your overall evaluation. It's with your initial optimism and presentation. It seems like this is just an overall junk product that shouldn't even be given screen time. These manufacturers have no intention of fixing the issues. They'll just rebrand/reshell. You're no better than mainstream media outlets who glorify mass shooters by putting their faces, names, and body count on the screen for future copy cats to outdo. These sellers don't care if you say little negative things about their product as long as it gets screen time and has a narrator who speaks proper English.

    • @Westy90_
      @Westy90_ Před rokem +3

      @@9unslin9er
      So what are you saying? That this guy isn't allowed to have his own opinion and like/review a product he bought. Yeah it's a third party Chinese product but obviously caught people's attention for the hall effect sensors alone.
      If you don't like it and think it's crap that's your opinion and that's fine.

    • @9unslin9er
      @9unslin9er Před rokem

      @@Westy90_ If you don't want feedback, there's an option to turn comments off. This is CZcams. Not a Newspaper. 2-Way commentary is the hallmark of social media. You just expressed hypocrisy in your own statement.

    • @NorolPlays
      @NorolPlays Před 9 měsíci

      what a bitter guy, clealy u dont like him