Friday Freakout: Skydiver's Reserve Bridle Entanglement After Cutaway
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WHAT HAPPENED
After an uneventful wingsuit jump, this skydiver deployed their main while appearing to be in a slightly uneven body position. The main opened with some minor line twists, but the jumper was unable to get out of them and made the decision to cutaway and deploy his reserve - but the reserve failed to fully deploy! The jumper was on his back with the reserve pilot chute in front of him, so he attempted to pull the reserve out and as he did so, he also rolled to his belly. The reserve deployed and the jumper landed safely. (We don't know where they landed, but given that it was a wingsuiter, we assume it wasn't at the dropzone.)
WHY DID IT HAPPEN
Body Position
(We're going to skip over the line twists because, obviously, had the jumper not had line twists in the first place, this whole incident would have been prevented.) While we expect a reserve to deploy regardless of body position, here it appears that the way the jumper was positioned on their back as they pulled their reserve handle prevented the reserve pilot chute from creating enough pull force to remove the reserve pin. Consequently, the pull force is largely - probably exclusively - being exerted on his body, rather than on the pin which needs to be extracted in order to deploy the reserve.
HOW COULD IT BE PREVENTED
Also, body position!
Regarding how the failed reserve deployment could have been prevented - again, outside of not having line twists! - as is clearly visible in the video, the reserve pilot chute goes over the jumper's shoulder. As we see in the video, the second he rolled over, the reserve deployed. It seems like such a simple thing but because we all expect our reserve to be infallible, we may not think about this. This video is a great example of why not just trusting your equipment, but knowing how it works, is important in our sport.
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*WHAT HAPPENED*
After an uneventful wingsuit jump, this skydiver deployed their main while appearing to be in a slightly uneven body position. The main opened with some minor line twists, but the jumper was unable to get out of them and made the decision to cutaway and deploy his reserve - but the reserve failed to fully deploy! The jumper was on his back with the reserve pilot chute in front of him, so he attempted to pull the reserve out and as he did so, he also rolled to his belly. The reserve deployed and the jumper landed safely. (We don't know where they landed, but given that it was a wingsuiter, we assume it wasn't at the dropzone.)
*WHY DID IT HAPPEN*
Body Position
(We're going to skip over the line twists because, obviously, had the jumper not had line twists in the first place, this whole incident would have been prevented.) While we expect a reserve to deploy regardless of body position, here it appears that the way the jumper was positioned on their back as they pulled their reserve handle prevented the reserve pilot chute from creating enough pull force to remove the reserve pin. Consequently, the pull force is largely - probably exclusively - being exerted on his body, rather than on the pin which needs to be extracted in order to deploy the reserve.
*HOW COULD IT BE PREVENTED*
Also, body position!
Regarding how the failed reserve deployment could have been prevented - again, outside of not having line twists! - as is clearly visible in the video, the reserve pilot chute goes over the jumper's shoulder. As we see in the video, the second he rolled over, the reserve deployed. It seems like such a simple thing but because we all expect our reserve to be infallible, we may not think about this. This video is a great example of why not just trusting your equipment, but knowing how it works, is important in our sport.
The reserve pilot chute doesn’t pull the reserve pin. If the reserve pilot chute is out, so is the pin. The freebag here is wedged in the the container, but the pin is out. It may be because it’s overstuffed.
Wtf, a Wingsuiter doesn't know how to deal with a simple line twist, he needs to stay away off wingsuit for next x200 jums!!!
It was one extra move to untangle…. And yet he spread hands like wtf
I can't believe what i'm seeing. This is something a first jump student could easily deal with. Saying this as a chief instructor of our club and a wingsuit pilot.
@@vilhokivihalme9878 totally agree, I’m truck driver
You know the reserve pilot chute doesn't extract the pin, right? Pulling the reserve handle extracts the pin, allowing the pilot chute to release. The reason the reserve didn't deploy immediately was because the reserve pilot chute could not lift the feebag out of the reserve tray due to the back to earth body position.
Cutting the Main away extracts the pin(if he had rsl/skyhook) which it seems he didn't
The description on this one is very puzzling. 🤯
The irony in the last sentence about understanding our gear after writing about the reserve pc not having enough pull force to extract the pin...
No mention of the release of the right toggle that causes the spin...
Descriptions are usually well written and informative. Considering rewriting this one
The madman still kept hold of his handles though!
Clean canopy with only one twist? I sure as hell wouldn't have cut that one.
Didn't look like he was trying to hard to twist those up to build up the unwind tension. Also looks like he only tried to kick out of it twice, before he cut it did go into a slight dive but damn man....I've had a 8 wrap twists I got out of. Not sure what his altitude was but at least he did check. Maybe he was at decision altitude and said fuck it.
Not how you remove twists.
The fact that there are only two comments about how a reserve deployment sequence works is crazy. Jumpers literally have no idea what they’re jumping with and how it works yet you’ll trust your life with it. Learn your gear please . I would be interested to know if he had a sky hook connected or not. Because if he did it looks like it disconnected prematurely
Saturday Freak out 🤔
I know right I’m suing for false advertising 😂
There's a secret interdimensional rift that only I have access to. Through this rift, I've managed to slip into an alternate universe where the days of the week are all jumbled up. So, in this alternate reality, Friday is indeed Saturday.
Probably a weather day today.
On a serious note though, the person did a good job being altitude aware and executing the EP. They also did pretty well when dealing with the reserve bridle not extracting the freebag. Now that we got that out of the way. The proper way of dealing with line twists is to twist the risers in the opposite direction of the line twists to bring the twisted lines closer to the jumper and make it easier to untwist them ( a pretty twisty explanation I know).
Side note one, the jumper didn’t unzip the legs which is good. You don’t want your tail trailing behind you acting as a stabilizer and making getting out of it harder.
Side note two, we may land off and have a lot of cutaways but at least we know how the reserve deployment sequence works and when the reserve pin is extracted 🤭
Do they not teach spreading riders apart and kicking out of line twists now?
That's not a very good way of getting out of line twists. Twisting the risers is a LOT easier and more efficient.
That wasn't done here though, kicking is certainly better than doing nothing..
@@Akegata42Agree, to me it’s mind boggling how so many jumpers don’t know how to get out of line twists. In this case he actually almost started doing the right thing but gave up after a half-hearted attempt.
@@Akegata42Newbie here. I was taught to spread the risers. How do you twist them to get out of it? Is it like wringing a towel in the opposite direction?
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What has changed in training for line twists? Minor line twists like this should not be a problem. Could this just be a wingsuit problem?
It looked to me like the jumper was exhausted and didn't have enough strength to kick or pull out of the line twists.
And sometimes the canopy just doesn't give a shit. As exemplified by the WTF hand gesture.
@@bjones9942 He literally had to twist the risers twice. I had similar twists today and fixed it in like 5 seconds. I don't know why he was holding his risers and just staring at them. You need to bring the twists down and then its easy to fix.
Looking at the pilot shoot just hanging out there 😳
the hand expression at 0:37 is funny given the situation, a minor inconvenience
"the jumper was positioned on their back as they pulled their reserve handle prevented the reserve pilot chute from creating enough pull force to remove the reserve pin"... what??
You still had forward motion. Open your left wing (you have to time it ...... open and closed as you rotate) when
facing the nose and keeping your right wing closed, will spin you counter clockwise. Keep it up until you untwist. I've done it many times.
Is most of your line twist from packing or wrong bodyposition , I dont know how to do wingsuit so is it nature of wingsuit to have more line twist ?
@@theaoooooo I have probably equal line twists occasions from freefall deployments and from wingsuit deployments. It is probably related to body position.
@@theaoooooo I have also had reserve line twists. That is definitely from body position.
That’s looks like a normal ws opening to me 😬
At 0:27 he tries to turn free for the first time by squeezing the risers together and accidentally releases the pre-brake on one side (I mean on the right). Without this, a solution to the line twists would probably have been easier or more likely ...
nice backfly
Подскажите, бывалые. А если с таким перекрутом потянуть одну из клевант, поможет раскрутить купол????
Нет. Не теряй высоту.
Eu tenho somente 4 saltos de paraquedas e já desfiz 2 twists como esse. É simples resolver. Aprendi na teoria e resolvi na prática no primeiro salto.
This canopy behaves a lot different from the one you're using as a newbie
Not as easy compared to bigger student canopies, they are more forgiving
Crianca nem sempre da pra fazer isso, semper fidelis
You are currently sitting at 50% of your jumps resulting in a line twist. In theory as you put it, you need to make some corrections quickly.
JFC...
Меня учили раздвигать стропы и помогать ногами. Прыгал я 4 раза. На третьем была закрутка и я как научили всё исправил.
В чём проблема на этом видео я не понял
А подскажите, если одну из клевант потянуть не поможет раскрутиться???
@@pivko1750I don’t think so , but you better use everything you can
He didn't even fight to get out of the line twist. The twist was stable, non spinning, he should at least unzip the suit, especially his legs to be able to kick and of course to reduce drag to have a chance to get out if the twist! Or put out one arm wing to let the wind and drag help you to untwist. With all zippers unzipped there is a higher chance for a clean reserve deployment too! IMO he needs retraining on deployment and housekeeping for wingsuit jumps!
Don’t you have feeling that he deliberately wanted use cut off and use this as excuse¿ it’s just so weird this passive behavior and spread of hands
@@kogguk I'd say it was his first malfunction on a wingsuit jump and he didn't know what to do.
Какой-то нефартовый чувак, хорошо хоть не фатально. Прыгая в вингсьюте не справляется с простой закруткой на четыре оборота? Да ну нахуй!)
I'm surprised that this jumper having the experience required to fly a wingsuit,would deploy his reserve on his back.
You wouldnt do better kid
@@nanocr it's not about whether I could do better or not.
I'm more concerned about someone having enough experience to wingsuit, and yet not knowing how to get out of a simple line twist with a stable and level parachute.
@@natural9743 support your crew kid
@@nanocr ok I offer my full support to the guy that opened up his reserve on his back. I am glad he survived without further complications but I still think he should of had a better shot of getting out of those line twists as he had a fully inflated canopy above him.
Did I do good Kid??
Отцепка, нехуй ждать!
MARD. Dont like them.