'This is an illness that he has' | Lee Hendrie discusses Sandro Tonali's gambling situation
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
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Sky Sports' Chief Reporter Kaveh Solhekol and former Aston Villa midfielder Lee Hendrie spoke on set to discuss Sandro Tonali's 10 month ban from football after the Newcastle midfielder admitted to betting offences.
Sandro Tonali admitted to making bets on AC Milan matches during his time with the Serie A side. The Italy international midfielder joined Newcastle for £55m this summer and his 10-month ban from football means he will not be available for action until August 2024.
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Carvay hit the nail on the head about the betting advertising which does not help anybody with addictions in gambling. Personally gambling advertising should be banned in football because it certainly does not help the situation going on right now in football.
Totally agree it’s called common sense but that seems to have died out in society these days 👍
There's no principles when it comes to money. Reminds me of when McDonalds was the primary sponsor of the London Olympics in 2012!
Regardless of any ban, if its not permanent, a player should be allowed to train. Firstly for mental health reasons but also so they can come back after the ban ready to bounce back. A ban on training can massively impact the rest of their career
Why? So they can injure a teammate in training after placing a bet against the side? So they can scout how the team is looking before placing bets? There is no benefit to having people who are incapable of controlling themselves around gambling involved with any industry in which legitimacy is a top concern.
And let's remind ourselves that these companies advertise all over during football matches, matches watched by children. I think it's time to ban gambling advertising in football.
The irony of getting a ladbrokes ad before and after watching this 😂
Criminal that Toney was banned from even training or using facilities at the training ground.
We're being led by racists
Also it is kinda funny seeing Sky take a reasonable caring stance over this when their boxing division sacked their most senior commentator & director Adam Smith who also had a crippling gambling issue. Literally sacked him & never heard from him again.
that's not been confirmed tbf, just rumours
@@Kugann Nope literally everyone in boxing knows, I've heard it from within Sky itself & other people around boxing industry. Not a well kept secret they just never made it public officially, they'll never confirm it
@@d.b.cooper1 i agree that i have seen it a lot and is more than likely true with all the heavy rumours, i'm just saying its never been officially confirmed by anyone, who have you personally heard it from?
@@d.b.cooper1 hmm
@@Kugann From someone who works at skysports in london, obviously no one is publicly putting their name to such a personal issue, it's never gonna be officially confirmed. Offically none of it made sense, t ben shalom, johnny nelson all gave different views on the 1 & only day when they announced it from he's ill, to holiday etc. Btw news he was sacked leaked weeks beforehand before the confirmed it & people were saying it's bs until they confirmed he's gone. Don't believe if you don't wanna, but saying it's far more than rumours, take a step back & ask yourself how often such a high profile figure goes missing? If he was sacked for business reasons he'd easily turn up at dazn, bt or elsewhere
It's a tricky situation. There can be a tendency these days to label any bad behaviour as "an illness" and take the softly-softly approach, but how do people learn not to do stupid things if they're not punished for it?
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They criticize betting and adverts but failed to see they've SkyBet LMAO
Betting against your own team is rightly seen as much worse because there's more chance of skulduggery involved with players deliberately losing matches. So the three Sheffield Wednesday players is a totally different scenario to Tonali. Although going to prison was too harsh for the Sheffield three. I don't remember Lillie and Marsh going to prison after backing England to win Ian Botham's test match.
The FA, UEFA, FIFA, the Premier League and whoever else should ban gambling sponsorships in football now.
I hope he gets the help he needs and can return to action sooner rather than later.
What are the odds of him playing for the rest of the season?
It’s only an addiction when they get caught.
I guess you can say that about ALL addictions.
@@AlanBrownPhotography When a player is caught he will get a shorter ban by admitting to having a gambling problem...
So if caught, wouldn't you say you are addicted even if that was not the case?
@@markchapman2933 you are making an assumption that he is not an addict, without any evidence at all to prove your point.
The authorities have access to his phone - if they believe there is Evidence on his phone that suggests addiction then that seems compelling to me.
@@AlanBrownPhotography No, I am assuming nothing. I am saying we don't really know whether anyone caught gambling on football is addicted or not. Because the rules football has on gambling (and the nature of society) means it is far better for players caught to make out they are addicted even if not the case. A lawyer would not be doing his / her job properly if not saying "it's going to best for you if admitting to being addicted - would you rather have a shorter or a longer ban"?
Gambling is a bad part of society almost as bad as illegal substances when it comes to damage done to gambler or relatives and friends but government get too much money to care
It depends on the individual. As an adult, a responsible adult, gambling is not a problem if managed properly. What you should be object to is exposing kids to gambling sites and advertising.
There will be more players bans to come,,,ive heard from a creditable source that up to 300 are in line for investigation but he Italian authorities so I would imagine a few of those will be involved in British football across the professional leagues.
Funny how his "illness" only came to light AFTER Milan had conveniently off loaded him onto us......
Most addicts hide their illness behind a veil of denial and lies. We don't know for sure if anyone knew about this, it's not the sort of thing he's going to be upfront about.
just give him a huge fine and move on, this is all way over the top, 10 month ban is not going to achieve anything.
He can devote himself physically and mentally to become an elite athlete but he can't stop himself putting a bet on even though it will destroy everything he is working towards. Seriously.
Illness? Guy just betted on himself. His not on the streets
Gambling addiction
Yet…
He is a man crippled by addiction.
Sure, ban an individual whose actions were inconsequential compared to the actions of a corporate entity like Mancity, and let them continue operating as if nothing happened. Same with Everton, gets a 12 point deduction while a player gets a ban for 12 months, where is the equivalency here?
Skky reporting on gambling and next thing u see is 50 free spins at sky vegas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Karveh is way off the mark about the gambling industry. These footballers can gamble on any event under the sun except football. They can even use those sponsors to place bets, and nobody on earth would care.
We don't really know whether Tonali or Toney have a gambling problem. Football's rules mean those with an addiction get shorter bans. Players want to get back playing football as soon as possible. Being addicted is rightly seen as (at least partly) an excuse for going against the rules and rightly gets sympathy from fans too. Whereas someone caught who is not addicted has no excuses and is more likely to get abuse. Therefore only natural for every player caught gambling to say they're addicted whether they are or not
I think Kaveh is making the biggest point of it all...the betting is there and the football government has put it there right in front of all of us...in front of young players! And then we punish the kids when they get a gambling addiction. The football government body should standup and be counted!
We don't punish them for gambling or for being addicted to gambling. We punish them only for gambling on football. They can use the sponsors sites to gamble on every other God damned event possible, just not football.
Tom you're missing the point here. The football government body cannot have it both ways and not accept responsibility.
Their main responsibility is football and creating a safe environment for kids and adults. Their commitment is not to betting not gambling and they need to keep it out of football.
It's all over the TV during games, it's on the kits, the banners. It should not be allowed and as long as it is it's not the fault of the football players that being prof or amateurs' that they get exposed to it. You cannot control an addiction or illness.
@@jesperfuglsang No, that's exactly the point I'm making. Their main responsibility is football, and there is nothing more important for the game than that the legitimacy of it is not under question. If everyone believed the outcomes were predetermined, the game would suffer tremendously. And that's why the game cannot have the participants betting on the games.
This isn't a new concept. Every sport has prohibited its own players from betting on its own games, and for good reason.
@@TomBerishaj no one is questioning whether or not players should be allowed to bet on the game. The point here is who have the responsibility for exposing the game to betting? The football government body have the main responsibility here and they are doing everything they can to expose the kids to betting and they take no responsibility what so ever. Non!
Every case is different 😂😂 how diplomatic
He has plenty ppl behind him. he will be back next season
i do think this betting concept is to over the top, its up to people what they want to do with there money, why not just close all bookies down , why becaue if there did , alot of sports much more will vanish, because of the betting money into most sports,
Yes he should be punished, but it's overlooking the cultural problem - players now are growing up where every match is talked about in terms of betting odds, about who the bookies favour, all with sports betting ads running in the ad breaks and plastered around stadiums. No, players shouldn't be betting, but it's hard to blame them when every other part of the game says "betting is good!"
Rules are rules. You see ads for anything and everything, you don't need to buy. Betting is bad if you're a player full stop.
Even when taking into account there are more footballers than jockeys... Jockeys are not allowed to bet and there is little or no recent trouble with jockeys betting. Why does Football have a bigger problem if it is a "cultural problem", when racing is inextricably linked with gambling? Why should it be any harder for football players?
Why does everyone have to point out that he has an illness? If I had Tourette's, I would not be able to be a surgeon, because I would kill my patients. He is a gambling addict, so he should not be able to be a professional footballer, because he will kill the public's trust in the game. They're not jailing him, they're banning him from playing a sport.
Whilst I accept that a substance/alcohol abuse issue can be considered a legitimate illness, I disagree that gambling is, particularly if the individual is extremely wealthy, as Sandro is.
Indeed, it just feels like fraud, tbh.
Illness? what a load of rubbish, real men just say no to throwing money at a Bookie and go make money properly, folks are so bloody soft headed these days, Muhhh feelings.
Two players now in the spot light compared to tens of thousands of professional players.
The MSM making a mountain out of a mole hill. Yes it is an illness and needs to be addressed and dealt with in that regard- The F.A. went OTT with stopping Toney training- He needs help not just thrown to the Lions. The F.A. are a bunch of idiots at the best of times but lets not turn things into a nanny state culture- There is a fine line but just a ban and finding help for the player is enough. Stopping someone train is too much imo
Merson says give them a massive fine without a ban. But he himself says that when he won the title with Arsenal he had no carpets because everything went on gambling. So if players got just a massive fine the addicted would still gamble with what's left. There must be a deterrent for not getting involved in the first place. Taking away what the players love most - playing - is the deterrent.
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If Newcastle United knew he had a gambling addiction, then why did they sign him ?
Good player. Who else were the barcodes signing? Maddison wanted Spurs.
NUFC didn’t know.
Nah that's not an addiction he made a decision n he is sorry he got caught. You can't hide behind addiction every time a bad decision is made
Addictions begin with decisions and then get worse and worse, more and more difficult to control and break from. It could’ve started with peer pressure of normalisation, and then it spiralled out of control for him.
Gambling and other addictions is very similar, you only got 1 brain and you trigger same place as drugs. So yes it's might be a addiction and it's an illness.
Someone get merson out of the bookies he’s normally got a opinion on these matters 😂
If he want help he can get it and pay for it himself this is not a helpless child this is a multi millionaire that makes more than enough money to get the best help the world can to offer
Loool rich and famous blame everything on mental health or sickeness 😂😂
Same thing can be said about the poor though.
Mental illness doesn’t care about your financial status, or what part of the world your from, it lives in our heads and anything can trigger that.
Yeah, the rich and famous are isolated from the types of illnesses that affect the common man. Only poor people can be affected by drugs, alcohol or the other addictions that affect our society, right?
Toney dint get the same treatment....woooooooow....
Anyone gets caught doing anything in the public eye and out comes the victim card. He has too much cash, too much time, and a lack of self control.
ALL addicts have a lack of self control. The guy will lose MILLIONS over this as well as the opportunity to play in the Euros - do you seriously feel he had control over his addiction???
Ok, He is a victim, none of this is his fault. There you go.@@AlanBrownPhotography(Some people have actual problems)
If he is ill why is he playing shouldnt he be in a hospital and on sick leave ?
Racism
Utter nonsense Hendrie, he chose to gamble and break the rules, he went looking for underground betting sites, if now he is playing the mental health card that is down to him and him alone, stop making excuses for these selfish rich footballers!
So after training the poor modern day players have got “ too much time” on their hands. Try bleeding well volunteering for charities or doing something to assist people less fortunate than them… That sort of thing would be good for their own mental well-being and self worth… I really struggle with the “ oh it’s not their fault, it’s an illness, blah blah” the help is their for these players, their must be consequence otherwise why have any rules in the first place..
Just because tony iis black that's all
So sick of illness being used as an excuse for these ‘professionals’. Rules are in place, he chose to break those rules.
I think he accepts that and that it’s no excuse.
I know someone who blew 10k overnight at a casino, borrowed another 10k the next day and lost that, then stole to pay off his debts, was caught and jailed.
Laughing it of as a sickness doesn’t help. It’s an addiction.
Addiction is an illness
For which he is being punished for. Are you implying that 'professionals' can't have the same illnesses as we mere mortals?
@lanthonyw1930 I'm a policeman and my brother(a lower league pro footballer) killed himself because of a gambling addiction. Can we have a chat about what you have said please.
If you are sick, stop playing and retire to treat the illness. He must be banned for lift. 10 months is joking.