Dev Talk: Rand Miller and Eric A. Anderson Talk About Myst While Playing Myst
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
- Join Rand Miller, Cyan's founder and co-creator of Myst, and Eric A. Anderson, Creative Director at Cyan as they explore Cyan's newly re-imagined version of Myst and talk about the dev process, what's new on Myst Island, and whatever else comes to mind as they wander through a version of Myst that has been nearly 30 years in the making!
Chapters:
00:00 Start
00:48 Random or Classic?
01:45 Why is the Myst book floating now?
02:35 Let's go to Myst island
03:46 A debate on switches
05:19 PC flatscreen compared to Quest
06:43 Exploring the island
09:38 Surrounded by fog
12:02 Those trees!
12:49 Into the library
14:17 Very intentional changes
26:13 The path to Myst VR
29:24 Going for a ride
33:20 Warping to Channelwood
39:15 Rand's favorite level (in Channelwood)
43:05 Back to Myst island
44:56 To Stoneship
51:23 A quick Mechanical
55:17 To Selenitic
1:01:23 Closing thoughts & Thanks
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"Rand Miller's grandpa was an elevator repairman who had giant gears sitting around his house" feels too perfect to be real.
Rand,
Thanks to you and your brother for inventing my childhood. I was obsessed with MYST as a kid, and now as an adult, I played it randomized and had a BALL. The game still retains its strange magic. Thank you for all the hard work, the struggles, and jumping the hurdles back in the day. One of the greatest games of all time.
Please remake Riven next
check out the Starry Expanse project
It’s happening!! Announced last week 😊
This is so much fun to watch! As a life long fan of the books and games, it's wonderful to just watch Rand talk about so many details and hear his humor. Also more trees on Myst island for sure, but the lighting and weather looks phenomenal!
He might not like hearing his voice in a recording(like most people) but every time I hear it I get a surge of nostalgia.
It's a decent voice it has a good bass to it, it sounds masculine and mature. But it sounds like it breaks a bit.
Thanks for doing this. It’s great to have devs that are also fans of their games and join in on the excitement with the fandom. It’s really what makes you guys the best game company out there.
Loved the discussion on design choices and changes while walking through the game live. Thank you for all your hard work and for sharing it with all of us.
My grandfather showed Myst to me when I was a teenager. I've since played every iteration of Myst, as well as all the sequels. I am mostly happy with the way this remaster has turned out. However, my biggest gripe is with the lighting/art direction of Myst island itself. It's really a massive departure from the atmosphere and color palette of the original (plus past remasterings). It seems too bright/hot or even washed out. The assets are really wonderful, and I'm wondering if this can be resolved in an update down the road. And obligatory, more trees!
Eric is one of the best things to happen to CYAN. So much love went into the art & design of this reimagining of Myst.
Can't wait to get stuck in the Selenitic age once again!
I can't really put it into words.....but rediscovering Myst has saved me. I am going through so much right now and when I found Myst had been remade again a couple weeks ago, it saved me. It sparked a motivation and drive in me that was lost and it brought me back. Thank you so much.
Stoneship looks cool. Like a planet distantly orbiting an Orange Super Giant.
Having Riven in VR would be amazing!
Watching this video on Riven release week! It’s in VR! It is amazing!! We did it!!
I love how Rand Millers keeps saying "This part is my favorite!"
The Great Rand Miller! I can't Wait for Firmament! I Must say though that playing this new one, seeing those cartoon Atrus and sons was Heartbreaking to me. It was like an affront to my childhood. So I immediately went to Reddit to see if someone had already fixed this issue and sure enough, someone already had a link to the iconic original live action vids which I promptly installed and was THRILLEd to once again have Rand and Robyn as Atrus, Sirrus and Achenar. Without a doubt the ONLY way to play Myst!
Rand, you have every right to be proud of this. Your legacy is secured, my man.
Played though a decent chunk with my brother this evening. It’s all beautiful, but I have to say the new Selenetic is my favourite so far. So atmospheric!
Beautiful sky on Stoneship. It feels as if it's just after a storm has cleared
This game is a masterpiece and it's so great to see it in this form!
I just played a couple of days ago and I like some of the changes. I played the original when it first came out and immediately saw the changes. I think the new version is easier to understand what you are doing and how to solve the puzzles. It only took me one session to finish this time 30 years later and I loved it. I am now going to try the VR version and randomize the puzzles.
Will definitely try the Rand-omized run ;)
I remember back in 1993 how *_startled_* both my six year old son and I were when we first touched the Myst Linking Book and experienced that *_rumbling transporter sound_* before landing on the Myst Island dock. This is when and where we knew we were into something special; the captivating music and those enthralling sounds!
I'm really excited to play Myst when I'm 80 something, and it's complete VR, and everything is entirely photorealistic. Myst will be one of the first remade games that is fully realistic.
The randomization was an inspired inclusion! I was very excited when I saw that.
Stoneship should have rain come in if you stay in it long enough. Rain just seems to go with the ocean and pirate ships lol, but it could be an achievement, like the rain is hidden so only certain people who stay long enough get to see it? I think rain would be unbelievably beautiful, especially in VR, and lightning would look amazing in those clouds. Just an idea lol I do love the epic sunset! Heck, maybe different ages have different timelines, so seasons pass faster in some? Lol
Ooh, and a hidden winter on Myst Island on Christmas, different seasons could be very cool!
Keep in mind, this game is identical to the original Myst in an important way, BOTH games pushed the limits of modern technology for their day. You cannot fault the original, it done what this one is doing, and you had to grow up playing older games back then to really appreciate what the original Myst brought us, just as I appreciate what THIS version brings to the table. Great work, it stays faithful to the original from the looks of it.
This was a great Stream to wake up to this morning. Hopefully, you guys do more in the future again. :)
3:25 "Atrus is just a kid at heart and just making playground stuff." Dude how cool would it be to have a Myst-themed theme park! It'd be the ultimate escape room. Myst: Escape Park! Or even just a replication of Myst Island and each of the secret places for the ages of Myst have VR headsets to visit those ages. :D
Amazing work, as always guys and gals! Keep it up! Maybe, next to the tree DLC's, throw in some family living quarters underneath the library DLC? :-))
I’m hoping for Rime
I absolutely adored watching this. Your excitement and passion for the game you’ve created is palpable and your insight into what was changed, adapted and redesigned (and why) is fascinating. I could watch hours of this kind of commentary, with behind the scenes and insider discussion. Thank you for streaming and sharing this with us!
You guys knocked it out of the park with this remaster, some of the best work I've seen from Cyan in a while. Can't wait to play it. Definitely agree, more trees on Myst would be nice but all in all this is an outstanding piece of work. I still hope and pray for an Uru remaster/re-imagining one day (single player with optional online), a man can dream!
Why are you lying? Jump to 25:18. They intentionally skipped opening the books because it's SO BAD.
Myst is Pure Art.
Was finally able to purchase and play a bit in the new game. It is absolutely GORGEOUS! What a thrill to experience in high fidelity VR. I'm glad Eric was finally able to see this realized, I could hear the pain in his voice when talking about the artistic sacrifices made for the Quest (which is one of, if not the best, looking game on the platform, so that was an achievement regardless of the concessions made!).
The pentagonal walkway is such a brilliant idea.
I played that game when I was 12 year's old and I loved it (as I loved Riven). Now, 25 years later, revisiting the island was an amazing experience. Thanks for that.
Thanks for past and future memories. You were ground breaking back in the day. Zork with images, except you didn't have to kill shrews. Still playing after all these years.
Thank you very much, PLEASE DO THIS AGAIN SOMETIME
I love the new Myst. I own like every version of it now lol. But I do miss all the day/night cycles from realMyst. That was the most immersive part of it that made me play it for hours just experiencing the environment. Having day/night cycles in VR would be the ultimate dream come true. But great job anyhow, Cyan! Can't wait for Riven. ;)
This is great! Will watch this later!
Would love to see that other games in series rebuilt in this engine.
No cgi characters and I’m sold
@@jimmarsden4359 Yah, maybe use Unreal Engine 5 and MetaHuman.
That method they used to capture the actors on Ages beyond Myst is fine by me
I've been waiting for an updated version of Riven for decades now. I can't imagine what they would do for some of the scenes where you're interacting with FMV though (like Ghen monologuing around the cage). But one can dream...
I played riven on my mum's pc in my mid teens, and then myst later. I read the books and was obsessed then found exile a bit later - living in the sticks as a student and no internet to our homes at that time, I never actually knew what games were coming or any of the online playing, so I myst out on a lot (see what I did there??) but these games shaped my life. I'm a big reader and a crazy magination (too crazy, according to my husband) so the idea of being able to go places THROUGH books isn't literally THE dream for me....also, boy did I have a weird crush on Atrus (and Aitrus) because of the way he was acted and how they were both written in the books!!
I could watch you both go through the whole game. This has been very informative and entertaining! One of my favorite games of all time. I was 12 years old when I first played Myst (when it came out) on my first computer.
Could watch content like this all day ❤
Thanks for letting us hang with you in those well-traveled magical old places. I frequently watch the intro to (Real) Myst for inspiration as I think it is such a well-crafted lead-in to a story-driven game: you are figuratively and literally dropped into this intriguing mystery, and it always reminds me of what it felt like to experience it for the first time...
You guys did an amazing job with this version. Keep it up Cyan! I'm hoping to see a Riven that looks exactly like this one day.
Holy hell this looks incredible! I have fond memories of playing the original at my friends place in around 1995. It was such a unique game! I will definitely have to pick this new version up.
Watching this makes me remember how much I loved this game
Rand Miller, the man, myth and legend. Thanks for this awesome playthrough and interview.
So dreamy 💭 thank you all for making the MYST series, I always just loved roaming around and getting lost in the worlds and their music, a big part of my gaming back in the day. As an artist, it’s so Good to see my dream of recreating the games in real-time graphics that could match the pre-rendered .
Can’t stop smiling.
This video was soooo freaking nice to seeeee!!! to play it together with Rand virtually, and with all the commentary is like a dream come true!!!! I am buying this new version of course immediately!!! Thank you Eric for all what you do and for the amazing experiences that you bring to us. It was very enjoyable to spend this hour with you two!!! At all the Cyan Team my thank you! And I look forward to Play Firmament too next year :-)!!!! YEAHHHHH!!!!
Amazing stream guys! Love it, to have such insight from both Eric and Rand! Can't wait for the inevitable Riven remaster / remake stream, hahaha (gosh am I wishing for that one). But seriously though, you guys should do some more streams playing your games, this was super fun!
Myst looks SO HOT now. All the ages look absolutely amazing!
Thank you for this video and thank you for randomize puzzle option! lol
One of my favorites. The original MYST on the PC was the most immersive game I've ever played. I also loved the original Shadowgate game for the NES. Developed by ICOM Simulations, Inc. MYST blew it away a few years later but the idea of the point and click adventure was very similar to Shadowgate. The puzzles and figuring out the world and consequences were so much fun!
The thing I miss most from the original Myst is the library elevator rotating at the halfway point. Especially in combination with the tower rotating, really helped give the immersion that it had to rotate to line up with the shaft, since the *entire* upper part of the library was rotating. I see how it got explained/shown with VR, but there was that bit of nostalgia, and kid me really wanted that rotating elevator for himself.
That was amazing! Thank you so much. 🥰 - I've been an explorer of the Ages of D'ni for 22 years myself. This version of Myst! I can hardly wait to try it in VR. Everything looks amazing, but The Nixie tube like displays in the garden I agree are super cool. I have since used vacuum tubes in my own sculptures since my teenage years - Nixie tubes have made a resurgence in the last few years but yet to utilize them in my own work. People are doing amazing things with them! The gears with the plants growing through them in The Mechanical Age also 👌 - the oscillating crystals ! I feel like those of us who have Loved Cyan games since out earliest years are part of a special club or group of like minded explorers. Kindred spirits ! The higher resolution and all the exquisite detail I think make the excruciatingly delicious feelings of hiraeth, saudade, and fernweh of the D'ni Ages even stronger. Very well done!
Looks awesome. Buying now on Steam. Gotta continue to support my favorite game producer.
Incredible game and series, pure genius
I loved this game. Thanku for reboot. Revisiting my childhood and the game with the old fmv is perfect !!
You made a mistake in Stoneship - you have multiple elements in the water and a 'rough-ish' sea yet when you look down you can only hear the water crashing against a single object, there needs to be multiple background random waves crashing at different intervals and time lengths for big waves and little waves. Think 'background sea noise added behind the louder/closer elements'. Otherwise loving the playthrough and all the mods :)
OMG! “Atrus is the Adam Savage of MYST.” That’s so true!
I've been partial to the first Real Myst from 2000 or thereabout for its atmosphere or athletic (the bird noises in Channelwood not withstanding), but this looks great too. I'll probably get it on Steam. Cheers.
Love this remake so far. Only real complaint is the cgi actors. It really pulled me out of the experience... Even if cgi was necessary, the quality felt really off compared to the rest of the remake.
That being said, it's a minor part of the game, and I'm loving the rest!
I am so psyched to have found you guys on youtube! I was about 6 years old when we got Myst. I mostly watched my Dad and older sister play it, or I would play around on Myst island and then bug them to do the puzzles for me so I could explore the other worlds. Channelwood I could get to by myself because I knew the code, hehe. Riven was fun, too, although both Myst and Riven scared me a little bit when I was a kid. The puzzles were mostly too hard for me to do on my own, but I loved exploring, and I loved all of the animals in Riven! Especially the sunners and the wark. I used to love to bait the frog trap and just catch frogs over and over for fun. And I loved calling the wark! I still remember how much I jumped the first time we tried calling him four times in a row, hehe. A couple of years ago, my Dad and I worked together to play a little bit of Odbuction. It was so cool to see a whole new world made by the creators of Myst! I kept telling my Dad to stop what he was doing and take the time to read the books that had lore in them, but he was like, "No, I want to go and look at this thing over here," and I'd be like, "Dad, you need to read that, it has important stuff in it!" xD Thank you guys so much for all of the love and hard work that you have put into these games! I would love so much to see you guys do more "let's play" videos! Honestly, I would love to watch a whole series of you guys playing Myst, Riven, Exile, etc. Much love from a lifelong fan, and keep up the good work!
The book turning pages in place of a progress bar was a very nice touch.
I grew up watching my dad playing Myst. He bought me a copy of Japanese edition of The Book of D’ni. 25 years later now I’m learning 3D modeling and hoping to get a career in this industry:) Thanks for the beautiful game!
I read some reviews from people saying the new version is just prettier graphics and the game is the same, which may turn people off and is unfortunate. But when you actually play it, it just goes up to a new level. All the little changes here and there, it is really something else. The channelwood entrance at the bottom of the tree on Myst island is super nice. The safe with the igniter knob, all the little changes all over, it feels more modern and with our present technology. And the graphics are something else. So crisp and amazing to see, really cutting edge. The atmosphere and everything is very well done. Eager to see how it gets improved upon over time. Hoping to see some add-ons or more ages, or a post-game added on after you finish the main story. Really job well done Cyan and Rand!
This is AWESOME! Please do this to the rest of the games! Riven, Exile...all of them need this treatment :D
When I played MYST in 94 it was called MYST because I was constantly saying .....oh man I myst that.....cuz I was playing it while on the phone to a buddy who playing too.and he would find stuff and I would find stuff. I still have a binder about 3 inches thick for MYST, Riven, URU with all the puzzles drawn out and mapped, wish I could post a picture of that binder here its awsome.
Loved the frogs in Channelwood.
Love the quest version, haven't played on PCVR or flatscreen yet. It's great to be able to take the game with you to a friends house or camping or to the park. It's just so awesome to go into the underground room next to the dock and hear that music swell up. In VR, its a really strong blast of nostalgia. Hope Riven gets a go in VR. btw, I loved 'The Last Clockwinder' too.
It makes sense that some of the sound effects had to change, because the physical mechanisms they correspond to changed (the tower rotation map). There are other sound changes that weren't obligatory in that way, but that I find to be improvements, like using a different sound for the Channelwood pipes than for the running water of the Selenitic oasis. But there are also cases where sound effects are new for reasons that aren't obvious to me, and where I miss the old ones. The marker switch flipping sound is one.
I played the original, but this is going to be a whole new experience. I can't wait to play it this weekend.
Enjoy!
Beautiful game!
just finished Masterpiece and loved it
I mean, I was gonna buy this new Myst anyway but seeing this video sealed it for me
Thank you for giving our Myst remake a try! 🩵
I just can't afford to get a worthy PC, but talking about the future...the full series offered on Playstation would make me a 9 year old again playing Myst for the first time. The hardware has caught up, and I believe would look just as good as PC. VR doesn't interest me until the resolution is the same as normal play.
*And if you plant a real tree for every one I purchase for Myst island, I would turn it into a rainforest. 😉*
Played Riven first... That hooked me... Then went and bought Myst. Been a fan ever since. Played every Cyan game produced. Like to see Riven re-done for VR.
Really fun to watch Rand play through the latest updated Myst and hear his thoughts on it. Eric did a fantastic job on the graphics! Looks really good! I am excited to play this soon! One thing I've wanted to see for a long time. As a MYST fan, when I was a teen, I have always seen a video in my mind of Rand being Atrus playing through every updated myst and hearing his reaction about the newest stuff. Most entertaining. This got pretty close and was very delightful. Everything is definitely amazing. I love the steampunk updates, that makes so much more sense for Atrus as well. I agree on that. This is going to be fun to play! Also love the detail on the nature scenes. . The crystals are beautiful! Beautiful work! I can't wait till I get to play this in VR once I have a new pc. My Mom and I have been obsessed MYST fans since the year Myst first came out. I was only 10 at the time, grew up with it and still looking for other worlds since. (grin). It would be fun to actually see Rand be Atrus playing the game next, although he would probably hate it since that mysterious voice at the beginning of the game bothers him. LOL! I bet lots of us fans would pay to see that though. Thanks for the fun and great job on the beautiful artwork and updates! I really enjoyed the gameplay and your thoughts. Best video of the month!
After really enjoying this on the Oculus Quest 2, I’m gonna play it flat on my Series X tonight, in 4K! All I’m hoping for in the future is a re-release of the original Myst as it was on the original Mac, with all those finely tuned transitions between the images. Myst: Masterpiece Edition doesn’t cut it in terms of preserving the original Myst experience.
I was not expecting a Mythbusters reference in a play session of Myst.
Channelwood is my fav, now I have to go buy a VR set!
Will you consider patching in a "rainy" Stoneship age in the future? Though I love the new iteration, I would love to maybe be able to switch to a rainy version sometimes...
I kinda wish every time you enter a zone after the first time there could be a random weather pattern to shake things up
would love one of these for riven! even the old riven!
Ever since I got my VR system, I wanted to explore the world of Myst in VR, and now it is finally possible to do so.
I will have to buy a new computer. Can’t live without enjoying this to the fullest. Congrats on this stunning release.
dang, channelwood looks amazing
Thank you for the outstanding update to my favorite game. Any chance of an update to Riven in the near future?
Channelwood was my favorite age in Myst. Now get to work on giving Myst Exile the same treatment. I want to play all the Myst games in VR.
I don't recall me noticing that that button in the map was actually a diorama of some device on the peak of the mountain behind the library 😮
7:45 Wooden steps like that are actually very common in state parks in Ohio (Hocking Hills especially, although there are many other examples).
Thank you for this video!
Yes but they would only be used as steps and not as a walkway when the ground levels out. At least that’s my experience.
In many ways parts of Lost island reminds me of Myst
hope to see a riven remaster possibly! Myst is great but I've always had a soft spot for Riven
It's interesting to see how far technology has come since the original Myst. I wonder what is the next step after VR? Will someone build an actual Myst island?
I don't know about anyone else, but I would love to have the day/night cycle to be included in this version. And I'm hoping Riven will turn out to be even more epic than this. You guys did such a wonderful job on rebuilding it. Gotta say though, I don't really feel that the bluish hue in Selenetic really fits the 'devestated world' feel.
I don't think I actually got to play Myst until after the turn of the millennium and one of the updated versions came out. I started playing Riven as a kid, when it came out with that gorgeous CD case, which I still have. I just wanted to play around with the rides, and push through as quickly as I could. These days, I love taking my time, but even then, I still go through the game far too quickly.
cyan worlds should hop into vrchat sometime. Id have to say it was myst that made me have interest in the whole concept of travelng through virtual worlds. My first vr game was obduction. i loved it so much. I hang out with people in vrchat . it seems that vrchat is a hub for artists, developers and musicians. Its like people who come from all walks of life and different companies come there to have a common gathering to share ideas and concepts outside to push vr. I personally have been using vr for a method of motion capture and creating films with animators. Im excited to see where unreal 5 will take vr. unity is good for an engine but i am interested in what is next. I greatly look forward to what ever this game studio comes out with next.
Still waiting on that tree DLC!
0:46 You guys are defaulting randomizers? That's really cool.
@47:25 Certainly more realistic than Having a giant Redwood as an elevator when it's root system would completely prevent that. lol, just had to throw that out there.
Can you please do this for Riven? It's one of my favorite games, I just played through it for the first time and it's an amazing experience.