iFi Nova & Supernova AC Power Cable Comparison Review with Frequency Analysis
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iFi Nova AC Power Cord
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Video Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:56 Anti-Cable
1:15 How it Started
2:30 Review
10:44 Generic Demo
12:53 Nova Demo
15:02 Supernova Demo
To any body that may be considering this cables, just got these I was not expecting to hear a difference with my little Iotavx (I bought them for the denon pma sx11 really), I heard a difference immediately I did not want to say nothing (I thought I was just imagining things) but Then my wife walked in the room and said why does it sound different, she had no knowledge of the cables....I did not think that she would notice a difference, but talk about a blind test....and these are the cheap regular ones. My dac is the chord Qutest, spikers Ls50 meta and I do have and upgrade power cord for the Qutest and a clean power supply for all the audio gear man it all adds up really nicely....can wait for my amp to arrive. These cables are cheap but I'm rather impressed thanks for the great review to Tharbamar. Forgot to mention I also have 2 REL Ht subs connected to it That's where I noticed the biggest difference the base.
I am so amazed by the SMSL D300 and the sound (magic feeling) it is pouring into my brain based on your recommendation, that I immediately went to purchase these cables that are almost the same price of the DAC, because the DAC is THAT good and deserves everything I can help it with.
Once again, THANK YOU for your recommendation of the SMSL D300 dac.
These power cables are great and, imo, beat out much more expensive cables from Nordost, Isotek & others. There’s something inherently correct about their sound, no emphasized frequencies or focus one one thing. They just flesh out what is already there, make it bolder and more alive. Curiously, the Supanova is technically the better cable yet I prefer the Nova for my solid state Hegel amp. The purifier on the Supanova expands the soundstage and gives incredible tone purity but at the slight expense of dynamics. I prefer using it on my DAC and phono stage. Highly recommend these ifi cables!
I have the ifi Nova and it makes a difference...no interference in or out of cable as to not effect what it's plugged into or other cables
Nice demo, I definitely heard the difference. Nova is thicker sound compared to generic cable, while Supanova sounds the clearest among the three, am I right? A question, I have a fairly good dac amp combo Questyle CMA15, do you think Supanova is much better than Nova in all-in-one?
All I changed was to a Pangea 9SE mk2 on my Denon pma a100 plugged direct into wall and Technics TT and Denon dcd a100 into $32 SS6B Furman filtered power strip. No more slight TT hum which was a pain and much darker background. Really everything easily sounds better, even less record surface noise with just those two changes. Hard to believe, I wouldn’t unless I experienced it. I would like to add an IFi power chord to the CD player, just using stock chord now. TT sceptical what that would improve but might anyway.
Yep, my speaker buzz went away too when I use the iFi SupaNova.
Thank you very much for the comparison video. I've been listening to the ifi nova model, but I don't have a chance to listen to the supanova. is the improvement clear? I'm also currently testing a silver essentialaudiotools, have you heard? Thank you
You’re welcome, supernova is brighter than nova in my system I like nova more personally, I have not heard silver essential audio tools, thanks
@@Tharbamar thank you very much. Do you know oehlbach XXL powercord?
Would you recommend using the Supanova on an amplifier? I have read, and heard for myself, reduced performance from the amplifier when plugged into a conditioner.
I would not I like my main amplifier power cord straight to the wall, Nova will be much better choice for for SS amps. Thanks
I would like to ask : DAC, Pre-amp, Amplifier : would component is it the most important to have a good power cord?
All
Do you use an external clock in your system? Do you think it would improve upon a Gustard R26 DAC?
No, I no longer use external clocks, yes it can make it different but not going to be night and day, most case just subtle differences.
To make noticeable difference clock has to be very very close to the DAC chip, connecting with BNC cable is technically is not the best way that’s why I stopped using it. Thanks
I purchased an audioquest nrg y3 and didn't notice any change after two weeks then I purchased a pangea ac 14se and that one made a difference with my yamaha a s801 it did improve clarity & bass just a bit but noticeable so its a keeper and the build is incredible. So i tried the pangea on my new Sprout 100 and on that I'm not seeing any change. So if diving into power cords buy a few.
If you try Pangea AC-9 you may or may not like it, I had them on my Parasound Halo separates which makes the sound duller and thicker.
I had a similar experience with all of the same cables you mentioned in addition to the 9se and Audioquest thunder. Each showed different results depending on the equipment I connected to. In other words it all boiled down to equipment matching.
Ive tried the ifi nova on the cambridge cxa 81 and it was maybe a little better, did not warrant the price. Was about to return it but when I plugged it to the sprout 100, the difference is very noticeable. Honestly, it sounded better than the cxa81 and might end up getting rid of the cxa81.
Solid gold cable risers make your system sound even better.
Awesome, thanks for great advice.
You should try solid platinum first.
If you raise the cables with a slave, the sound will transport you to the 18th century, amazing
A while back I bought a Furman Elite 15-DMI power conditioner. I didn't notice much difference, but at least I had better protection. Then I broke down and bought some $30 power cables off Amazon that DMS recommended. I immediately noticed that my solid state gear was closing the gap with my tube amp. The sound stage was more natural and believable. Also, I brought out my oldest amp/DAC and found that it's resolution was now on par with my newer, more expensive stuff. I never thought power cables could make a difference, but I guess they do. I can understand better if you have a conditioner, making sure the power stays clean to the component. I am skeptical about plugging fancy, passive cables right into the wall though.
Does ifi suggest the use of their in-line filter cable if you already have surge protection or a power conditioner? Normally, you do not want to stack protection circuits as they can actually cancel each other out by not properly arresting big surges.
Hi,I’ve invested in whole house power transformer and surge protection, as well as all rooms have dedicated 20amp line. thanks for sharing.
@@Tharbamar OK then! No mystery that the cable with the in line conditioner didn't have much benefit for you. Did they say anything about stacking it with other surge protection?
@Car Guy daddyo That Saturn Audio 103c looks pretty nice! It's also around $1900 usd, so I hope it sounds better than my Furman. I snagged mine for around $400usd new :)
its resolution
Thank you for reporting your observations. Please advise how these compare to your Oyaide and other diy PCs. Like me, if you can't hear the difference or don't think the price is worth it, don't buy, just like other equip.
My DIY shielded PC is slightly less resolution when I tried them back to back, thanks
Could it be good for powered tower speakers and subs ?
Yes it will be totally fine using it with powered speakers.
I was hoping to hear more of a difference between the three sound test at the end. Even though I know it's through CZcams and not live, I've heard sound samples where power cable swaps made a huge difference but those cables were out of reach for me.
These seems to be more accessible and I would buy them immediately if I can hear the difference. I tried to through the Aeon Open X headphones with Topping D70s and Burson Funk but can't seem to make it out.
Maybe the last one have 1% more air.
I can hear it with my SMSL D300 and Arya Stealth headphones. There is more "blackness" and "holographic" with the cables.
Will you ever do DAC shootout that would be more interesting to hear the differences between them :)
I have done many DAC shootout if you would care to check out in my channel. Thanks
@@Tharbamar Yes but would be great if they would use the same setup so we could actually compare and hear the differences :)
@Car Guy daddyo It sounds like you are trying to justify your big spending on these DACS lol. Just because something is expensive doesnt mean you get what you pay for :)
@Car Guy daddyo enjoy your snake oil dacs
Hi sir, is it still safe to use even if my supanova reads both red light(missing ground)?
It’s not a good sign if your equipment needs ground, I would check to see where the ground is lifted. Thanks
@@Tharbamar thank you sir.
how do you break in power cable?
@@sr3g.manila999 I just keep using them.
Got a Pegasus DAC, which one do you recommend?
Nova will be great paring. Thanks
@@Tharbamar What makes it better than Supanova, both being connected directly to the outlet?
@@ekjellgren I did explain it in this video. thanks
Please try some Wireworld cables…
Supernova for me!
and me.
Is there big difference between Nova and Super Nova?
is it also useable for video? for lets say a 4k projector?
Yes definitely.
Do you also use these wires in your walls, otherwise how is adding a thick cable after a thin one going to make any difference...
Because it does… watch the science of electricity to see the impact of materials on field induction of current at the point of feed to components
@@JingoLoBa57 would rather not fill my head with nonsense, besides I would be concerned if the power supply of most hifi components didn't already clean up the power more than any cable could. Do you also believe that different USB cables make a difference?
I didn't look I think the first one sounded the best
It's a good review and soundtest man!
$350 is pretty affordable even for a hobbist is like me considering that there's a noise filter installed.
iFi is also selling usb noise filter isilencer+ and switching power supply ipower+ with noise cancellation.
I wish there's a chance in the future that you could also do some test on them.
My bad. Just noticed that you already compared the ifi isilencer older version.
Using the one in the box is just as good, so what's the point?
Nice sounding cables. The generic cable sounded awful and the two iFi cables sounded much better. Impressive.
The placebo effect in action!
No dummy.
@@MrsZambezi You are deaf.....
Yesterday my Supernova arrives.
My Test Equipment:
Kef Meta
Lexicon RV9
Nvidia Shield modified Power suppy
At the begin i change Nvidia Power suppy to Supernova.
My wifes First comment:
Sound more clear, Pictures have more colour TV. She isnot s Fan of Hifi!! My comment:" This clearness in Bass areas... Many more Details at TrueHD films. More room. Digital interferences are gone...
I compare with tertellus 200eu and phonosophie 500eu cables.
Audioquest Hurricane > 1000eu.
All Power cables are better than normal Product cables.
Supernova kills them all with a big advantage. I will change any device to Supernova.
I was really confused because one wire on the power supply made that difference.
Changing from Denon 6400h to Lexicon RV9 was just as big..
Best Deal for 500eu!!!!!
if you have good power condition buy the Nova cable use the extra money buy a ground box to your source will have better result
The graphs look pretty similar to me.
Yes it should be but there is differences , you can see it better here on my website bit.ly/3qXcqLz
yep! In fact the chart for the supervova looks slightly worse at a few frequencies than the nova...
Have a look at the measurements work done by Kenji at Kenrick’s Audio of Japan to demonstrate directionality of cables…
Regards your shielded designs, my understanding is that any shielding that can let water in can let RFI in. So typically multi wrapped solid shield not braided shield is needed for best results.
Your acoustic panels are placed to high, what are you thinking?
Ηi pals .I have not heard these two IFI power cables but IMHO they are not inexpensive and have tough competition .I am using KIMBER PK 10 cables for both amplifier and cd player and i am quite satisfied with them .I 've heard the Pangea ac 9 mkii at 190 euros/1,5 m and liked it.There is also a cheaper alternative that does the job sufficiently = the DIY shielded LAPP olflex 110 cy 3x2,5 mm2 at 6 euros/m for those on a tight budget .
P.S . good power cables do really make the difference !!
You can achieve same audio difference switching between much cheaper audio cables.The gauge and the length makes the difference here.OCC copper is preferable for power cables .Thats it!
And you have forgotten about RFI & EMI… directionality properties of wire, silver vs copper vs silver coated copper. Lots to learn…
@@JingoLoBa57 Silver is crap.Too bright.
@@JingoLoBa57 Directionality for AC?
My Amazon Basics Oxygen Free Pure Copper (no aluminium) speaker wire is out for delivery as I'm typing this . . . eat your hearts out Kember clones, hehe
Gene from audioholics is rolling his eyes right now
Love that guy, I wonder if he still using expensive Kimber speaker cables.
For that price I would get a new pair of iems or something else that actually does something
Just like others say, I don’t buy that. Audible difference seems just physically impossible here. In my country we call it Audio Voodoo.
You can achieve same audio difference switching between much cheaper audio cables.The gauge and the length makes the difference here.OCC copper is preferable for power cables .Thats it!
It's okay you have no experience.
Yeah these old idiots don’t know what they’re talking about anymore
@@deluxesofa Old?
You are deaf....
Does the first "like" win a new power cable? lol
May be in next cable shot out, thanks
just for the sake of beauty, nothing more.
Do you realise that the graph don''t show any noticable differences ?
Look again here bit.ly/3qXcqLz there is big differences.
@Hello There go to his home page
@@Tharbamar Hi, I tried accessing this link but it is not showing anything.
dude, those stalagtites on your graphs ARE THE SAME!!! jeez', smh' . . .
I hope you don’t mind saying this, it’s time for you to check your eyesight, no offense intended.
Snake-Oil: Proper sized power cables that are well constructed are all you need. Once you do this, everything else becomes snake-oil. Are you telling your viewers that you can hear the differences in the graphs?
There is no snake oil I just share my experience, do your research, even big pharmaceutical companies are switching to better quality power cables due to EMF. You can’t hear the difference don’t mean snake oil, graph and numbers to show the difference. Nothing more than that.
You need a good system to hear the difference and it’s massive .Anyone without damaged hearing can hear it .This guy is totally correct .The better the fuel the more dynamic the performance particularly on toroidal transformers.
@@Tharbamar if you can't hear the difference it means it's not there. Thank you.
As do all hospitals use shielded power cables in their test equipment MRI for example. The military are another user of fully shielded systems…
@@JCW-jx6ld I agree, a good system will reveal how a certain team my perform. The question then becomes, what is a good system? Are we talking piece-by-piece value or the total system cost? Is it $500 for $5000? What sets the bench mark.
Just imagine how the 1.5mm2 copper lines in your walls are organised... Optimising the last 2m of the whole power line can not make any difference. It just cant; at least not on our planet...
In my house every rooms has 20amp line plus whole house transformer, so much different than what you may have guess.
@@Tharbamar Actually I have 3x 65A, but still IN your walls cables are low grade (= regulations) & a mess. Optimising the very last part can not make a difference. It is a placebo effect. But hee, no disrespect - can't argue with religion ;) Keep up the great video's
By the time you buy all this gear
You will be broke...where do stop..
So after all conversions and in lossy youtube format you want to provide difference between cables? Hahaha. So cute. Audifilic tradition do nothing, hear nothing but speak.
Thanks for lovely comment.
cmon tharbamar you're better then snakeoil
There is no snake oil, all I share is my exact experience, thanks
@@Tharbamar your exact experience is a placebo experience
@@Tharbamar There is a difference it can also be seen on graphs but power cables should be the last thing to upgrade if you are looking for better sound quality. If you cant hear the difference then great for you, you dont have to spend money on expensive power cables but yes i do agree if you buy a power cable thats well done and high quality you shouldnt worry about it.
Another person with no experience who read ASR & Audioholics & thinks they know it all. Internet is full of these apes.
Snake oil.
So it some says but they’ve yet failed to understand why EMF is worst than ever in modern societies.
@@Tharbamar k
Some of you people sure spew irrational crap.
@@Stikibits Hey look another dummy who read some ASR & Audioholics posts and thinks they know everything. Dunning-Kruger alert.
@@JPWinters You sure spew irrational crap.
Suggestion, take your noise and performance measurements on your amplifier output before and after using any / all of these power cables. You will measure ZERO difference as your amplifiers power supply is designed to regulate the power and eliminate AC noise. Isn't the primary reason for using these cables to reduce AC noise? Do you really think that a 3 ft power cable (or worthless power conditioner) from your amp to the wall is going to change the sonic quality of your amplifier and alter power characteristics of AC power sent many miles over transmission lines and the 14 gauge wires in your house? If the difference in noise is unmeasurable, can you magically hear a decrease in noise, or the sonic quality of your amplifier??? Plenty of proof this is BS on Audioholics and Audio Science Review.
Psychoacoustics can be a powerful placebo. They look great and a person can buy whatever they want, but these cables are worthless. If you "think" they improve the sound great, whatever flips your trigger as they say. How about doing a blind listening test with 5 audiophiles between all cables and see if anyone can actually hear the differences? Pick the "best" of the bunch on a regular basis, or pick specific cables. That would be great video. Now on to speaker cable floor risers...
Nah, You think you know and relying on those forums to confirm that Nope I know what I hear, none of the test instruments can measure sound quality only your hearing can.
Please ask those main guys on so called experts why they are using expensive wires? Totally contradictory to their claims.
Hey, did you copy my responses? You totally nailed it, placebo, but people just won't accept it. Took me many moons of investigation and blind testing to admit I was being fooled by my brain. As far as the noise test, my AC power changes in noise from minute to minute, could be your neighbor turned something on between cable changes. I also have watched Audioholics and A.S.R.
I am amazed at the response "I know what I hear"??? Our hearing is the least reliable source. Again PLACEBO EFFECT, wow. I'm a retired electrician and have built many cords and extension cords for various reasons. I should start building these to supplement my retirement. If it looks technical, and pretty and futuristic it must sound better 😂
boring, boring,
Sorry but time to unsub, snake oil. Check Audio science review if you need proof.
I don’t need proof from anyone.
@@Tharbamar certainty is a psychological necessity so important for many. Taking an experimental innovative and open minded approach is present in less than 50% of the population. Tharbamar is one such reviewer who even builds his own cables. He shows you graphic evidence that is supported by his and others here on CZcams that differences are audible. Even preferences are mixed, further showing the results are likely valid. AudioScience review is rather like a Masonic Hall, it’s a cult. Science by definition is an open minded inquiry. ASR is certainly not that.
Another dum dum falling for ASR after reading a few posts with graphs and thinking they know something.
Emir is a weenie with a tilted view of the world and his vanity.
@@Tharbamar Right on!
Lol
Snake oil. All physics. And all is known surrounding sending current through em.