rFactor 2 in 2021 - State of the Sim
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- When I first launched Sim Racing Paddock in 2015, I had a plan for a series, "State of the Sim". I launched that off with rFactor 2, and I laid out where I saw it going, and what it needed to do to improve.
Now here we are, six years later, and it's time to revive the series? Why not reboot it with the Sim that started it off, rFactor 2!
Timestamps/Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:17 - Discussing ISI's Legacy
8:01 - A New Competitor
9:14 - Introducing rFactor 2
10:25 - rFactor 2's Release and Struggles
12:55 - Where the Modders Went
14:13 - Where rFactor 2 stood in 2015
14:39 - Introducing Marcel and Studio 397
15:43 - Studio 397's Plan to Fix rFactor 2
17:30 - What Studio 397 did to Improve rFactor 2
26:58- What Studio 397 Needs to do to Continue Improving rFactor 2
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I originally intended for this video to be released last year, but 2 moves, setting up a new studio, and life getting in the way led to me postponing this video a year. I'll admit, it's a relief to release this, as this video was a bit of a passion project for me, so yeah! Hope you enjoy!
rF2 is such a schizophrenic sim, I don't think I've ever had such a love/hate relationship with a piece of software. Whenever I boot it up, it either gives me the most mindblowingly magical sim racing experience imaginable, or the most frustrating fight against technical malfunctions I've ever experienced, and seemingly never anything between those two opposite poles.
Well said. Could not agree more.
Yep. I give it two chances to launch. If it fails to,pad twice in a row, I move on to AMS2.
I’m playing a LOT of AMS2 lately.
@@RV6Pilot Just got out of an hour long AMS2 VR session myself.
It's the same for me, I got into Sim-racing expecting to have rF2 as my favorite sim racing title, but there's just so many issues and I just cannot say that I like it more than Assetto Corsa Competizione. Sometimes I have fun with it, but as of recent times I've been playing ACC a lot and it's simply just better
The only think that make me come to rf2, is the feel of driving, and the FFB, if the FFB in AM2 had the same feel, I think i had forget rf2 already, unfortunately i really dislike the am2 ffb, but i have hope that they will fix that. After all they have created a new sim, will the rf2 developers created a shit new UI. Note, only race in VR.
I really hope rFactor 2 devs see this because this is a great overview of the sim. Looking forward to you explaining the issues with the UI
Well I'm "First Name Basis" friends with Marcel as well as some of the S397 team, so I'm really hoping they do take what I said to heart ;)
I really hope so mate.
They will not, they are interested only in E-sports, and boot anyone from there forums that don´t agree with them, and write the true about the problems with the RF2.
Seen the game on sale on steam so been looking for some good reviews and this 1 was the best and then i saw the news. RIP man.
RIP, you will be missed.. Thank you for everything. 😭😢
It's amazing how long it took other companies to get to the same point Geoff Crammond had got to in the late 90s
Well stated!
This is such a nostalgia bomb. I used to write for Race Sim Central, and coordinated a mod team for F1 Challenge. The fact that ISI managed to include headlight and e-brake support in an F1 game that EA was paying for was pretty damn impressive.
Even today the F1C community is still alive. Some people who were modders from F1C are working for some of the big sim racing companies. There is one modder from Wookeys forum who was object of interest to ISI.
Wookey's forum. F1 Challenge VB. Constrictor Modding Team. F1 Challenge's post in RaceDepartment. Some really unique stuff are there.
The ethics that were in RaceSimCentral when modding still exists in these communities. The F1C 2020 mod was used in a cyber by people from Elazig who suffered an earthquake, having that mod the first Hanoi and Zandvoort 2020 config tracks ever. It helped a little to many young people to get over the tragedy.
As a big rFactor2 fan, long live to ISIMotor!!!
this is such a fantastic video! its like the history of sim racing software. nice work buddy!
I wished only we could have had a 2022 edition of this video.
Thank you so much, Will!
Fantastic video.. A very happy and grateful viewer is now a subscriber. 👍🙏 Well done
Too few views for how great and detailed video this is! Loved it!
Will, I'm feeling very optimistic about rF2's future after watching your video. About 3 years ago you released a video with suggestions on what rF2 needs to improve. You mentioned a better roster of licensed cars, tracks, and graphical improvements, all of which appeared in the game verbatim; the very tracks you mentioned became the latest DLC. I can only conclude, thus, that your suggestions in this video will become the next landmark improvements in rF2! I do think you hit the nail on the head once again on all facets. Of particular note, I'm sure Marcel & company are arriving at a crossroads point where they need to decide how much more the ISI engine can be reworked, or if it's time to write, or implement a new/another engine. The costs, challenges, and processes of this are well beyond my expertise! I do hope that S397's time and investment is financially viable enough to lay the groundwork for an rF3, and not an eventual death of the sim altogether.
There will never be a rewrite of ISI engine. They can't even keep up with bugfixing existing code. UI rewrite took almost 4 years with suboptimal results. And rF3 is very unlikely.
Great video, William. I’d rate one of your best, if not the best, content I’ve seen on the channel. And I do hope it resonates with the community, but especially the developers. RF2 has always been a favorite of mine, but I’ve always felt it needed more love and care of true race fans/devs. The Modding community can do a lot to prop up beloved titles, but there are many core issues in RF2 that need addressed at the dev level. Hope this gets in their ear, and helps to motivate some of the changes you’ve highlighted. And again, great job. Thanks for your voice and content.
Miss you brother
I've spent over $120 on rF2 and I'd be glad to see them offer an initial user complete package for 50-60. We need people and that would remove all the obstacles.
Just the kind of info i was looking for ,im still researchig if its a good buy ,thanks for the vid and explanation
WOW. Such a cool video mate. I'm a huge fan still today of Factor and when I will done with it I will naturally switch to Factor 2. thanks for your video.
Great video
Pretty much nailed it SRP, Maybe you could do a video on the UI ? and if you could edit it down to about 4 hours it would be a bonus :)
When I was new to racing sims I was trying really hard to force myself to like rf2: everybody especially the sim veterans are saying it is great, so it must be my fault that I don't enjoy it. The turning point for me was the release of the Flat6 mod. At first everybody was praising how great the mod was and how this one mod would bring life to rf2, and then it was revealed that the mod is heavily flawed and unrealistic. Then I realized that a large majority of people don't really know what they are talking about when it comes to simulator physics. So I moved on to AC and iRacing which I enjoyed and could find a lot more people to race with online. Now I only check rf2 for like twice a year.
So you are happy to miss out on rFactor 2 in the same way I am happy to miss out on IRacing and AC . What do you think of ACC ?
I completely agree. I never understood why anyone actually thinks rfactor 2 is the best sim ever. Some cars are so unrealistic
@@f1game912 Could very well be that some cars are unrealistic, but this is something you will find in any sim or racing game. I have to say, it's still my favorite racing sim despite the fact that I spend quite a bit of time with other products especialy AC and everytime I come back from AC there is something about rF2 that makes me enjoy myself. Most of it is down to the fact that the car feels very connected and once everything melts together, it becomes a nice experience. And then there are all the little details that I miss in other titles. At the end of the day it's the last modded racing sim with that amount of depth and complexity that is in development and it's one of the main reasons why we are still talking about an allmost 10 year old product in 2021. And if it was such a POS why are we still using it?
You don't have to understand it, but there is something called taste. I am annoyed by stuff like auto pitlanes with no collision, no mod support, mediocre rule systems and cars that have a very unconnectd boxy feel to it. And for the hundred things that are very bad in rF2, there are easily hundred things that it offers that you won't find anywhere else. It's just too bad that the quality of a product is mainly measured by it's visual quality, the sound and ease of use. Stuff like flexibilty or depth of gameplay is very far down the line and it shows with the development in the whole gaming industry and this review aswell.
@@f1game912 the most consistent sim is assetto corsa, then iracing, then ams 2 (or at least it'll get there) but rfactor 2 simply blows them all away where it does work. Got to know what to go for (gt3 + track dlc, select track mods and a few mod cars).
That said, rf2 is below par in most other areas.
great video!!
Rfactor is really a great simulation. But ... and that's a big but ... It's as messy as a kid's Lego box.
If you only have little time you are more concerned with putting together a decent race than being able to drive yourself.
It starts with the clutter in the Steam library and ends with the steering wheel setting .....
Until you have found a decent configuration, the weekend is over again ...
There are also loading times that are record-breaking. Even with SDD and a fast CPU. The whole thing can be a test of nerves.
Porsche 911 like
Great info and presentation. I love seeing all these sims try and make improvements to overshadow the cash hungry iRacing.
great video
Being in an Iracing fanboy for five years plus, I was an early adopter to RF 2 , and now having most titles. I can safely say nothing touches RF two in so many ways. I have invested more than 2000 hours and I’m doing phenomenal track time at my favourite track Sonoma .95. Yes there are trade-offs but in my opinion you can’t beat the physics offered. And the eye candy is getting better and better as long as the track file has more than 350 MB roughly. Sebring and Silverstone are my go to choices after Sonoma .95.The GT three series as well as anything ASR personally can’t beat it
I wish you could see where rF2 has gone now. Virtual LeMans, Official Indycar racing. The sim-racing community misses you dearly. RIP Will
What a sharp mind. Can't believe we lost him 😭
Very good video. Regarding what you said at the end ...I think its too little too late to be honest.
I'll just have the memories of the Porsche Supercup Series on Rfactor 1 over at Race 2 Play...legendary days with legendary racing.
With ACC being so good ..its really hard for me to use RF2 , obviously I bought it and I am impressed with what Studio 397 have done .
I wonder what you would have had to say today.
Thank you for everything.
Really good video. I'd agree with pretty much everything there. I find the loading times better since the December update, though I could be imagining it. It's the top of the pile for me. So much better than all others. The vr performance is astonishing. The driving feel & feedback is amazing. I can somewhat enjoy any of the other sims, they all are quite fun.
rF2 is the only one that blows my socks off & has me grinning from ear to ear. I'll put up with it's quirks for the sake of it's sublime delivery. Let the know-nothings herd themselves into ACC lobbies like the sheep that they are & let the iRacing greybeards waffle on about whatever it is they waffle on about - nobody is listening. rFactor 2 Ne Plus Ultra.
100% need an off line championships mode to race AI.. loved that about RF1.. with ASR getting close to a full high detail 1991 f1 season of cars an in game championship mode would be awesome..
The loading wait in rF2 is just unacceptably long, as you say. The excessive DLC pricing is totally out of synch with the overall health and lack of modernity of this sim. The Steam purchasing is utterly horrible too. To summarize, they need to up the accessibility in every way, and do it soon.
Excellent overview thanks.
It is even worse when you factor in that you need to own every single car just to drive one car in a race. Doing a single gt3 race quickly becomes more expensive than buying acc.
hey so a few days ago i tried playing rfactor 2 i had the new ui already installed and everything but it just kept not launching i have tried verfing everything and also re installing it all did not work. i have heard others having the same issue is there any way of fixing this
Backed RF2 when it launched, even bought lifetime online pass. Felt shafted when that lifeime membership was given to all but also saw it as a benefit for greater good of more accessiability for all. Tried it again a few months back it it took 6 minutes to load my car/track selection. got stuck in the workshop selection side of things...watching this now find i have to buy more stuff. im just one person, but the recent experience drives me (pun intended) to stick with AC and ACC
I recently jumped back into rF2. I’ve only been sim racing on PC since 2018, and I only played rF2 a short time on a single monitor before I bought an Oculus Rift S. I had trouble with video stuttering until I found out that I could run the game using Open Composite, and bypass Steam VR, which seemed to be the culprit of the issues I was having playing in VR. I enjoyed playing this title in VR with the combination of the physics and FFB feeling. I was playing this sim as a single player experience when I wanted a break the competitiveness of iRacing. Since the recent updates, it appears that trying to run the game with Open Composite is no longer an option. Hopefully this can be remedied in the future for Oculus users, to be able to bypass steam and run natively in Oculus VR. I know that the game would work fine if I played on a monitor, but it’s hard for me to back, now that raced in VR as my primary method.
they need to overhaul the in-car sounds as well. Also the spotter voice, to the car sounds as well. the audio engine is fine, as noted by replays and even mods. That on top of what you stated in your video. (really the biggest things are UI/UX, and sounds for me).
thank you for this video, love the sim and hands down the best FFB/ Car feel experience I have tried. For that reason, want them to improve it so badly... still longing for a reasonable UI, consistent quality tracks, improved graphics, and the WIP multiplayer to be up to date with the current times. Hope in the not too far future they can take the fight up to iRacing.
RF2 is my favourite I love it...
...but at the moment I spend more time with AC ACC AMS2 because of ONE thing - loading times!
rFactor 2 is my favourite sim when it comes to feel and handling. But like said in this clip, the load times are way too damn long.
The base game should also have more of the high quality content included in the base game. Otherwise the new player count will just dwindle away.
Despite Rfactor 2's many flaws, I still love the game for its FFB and workshop. It's alot easier to get free mod content w/ RF2 workshop than to hunt for mod files for Assetto Corsa. True RF2 is behind when comparing it to other sims, but I feel it's gradually improving and in time it can be the best sim out there.
I'm betting on RF2 to improve even further. The improvements Will said should help guide Studio 397, and us hoping for the best for RF2. Today, I'm seeing the Rain FX improved on the windshield. Two months ago, I saw the dry line on the wet track and that was very impressive. And also, Le Mans Virtual returned! I say more event organizers should try RF2, and while the price point for DLCs is making it tough for some, it is for the most part, worth it for the leagues for the experience alone.
My god !!! I remember having sports cars gt and a logitech racing wheel with no ffb at the time :) WOW the memories :)
I entered Sim Racing through the "Papyrus Side" of Racing Sims like NASCAR Racing and Grand Prix Legends...
So I actually have NEVER played SCGT... One of maybe 3 or Sim Racing titles I've never actually tried. But it's crazy how that was the title that Sparked ISI's legacy
@@Simracingpaddock Actually, I was playing indycar racing from papyrus on a keyboard. Can you imagine ?
I remember a video that William posted about a year ago, asking people to stop dividing this already niche community by fighting over different sim titles. He apparently removed it at a later date, but that stuck with me as it showed how good of a character he had. RIP.
I love playing rFactor 2 now and then because the amazing FFB but I always quickly stop playing because I can't handle the load times.
The Steam Workshop for paid DLC is really annoying too because it's hard to find what I have or don't have already -- especially if you bought a combo pack, it doesn't tell me I already purchased it or if I have some of the content already in the pack.
if you select an individual car or track, it will tell you if it's already in your library. But yea, no way to tell when you're looking at packs, beyond noting each of the components in the pack & look at each separately
Let's not get too dewy-eyed - in 6 years they could have released another 1 or 2 sequels (neither for nor against) and should have worked out UI design and fixed physics bugs (ironically the key reason it retains media attention over say AC 1). So yeah great to see them moving forwards but a focus on the import things would be nice.
I’ve had this for years, I load it up every so-often. It’s a ball ache to deal with the front end and mod management is a mess. For me.
I keep trying to like rFactor2 but I just can't really find anything I enjoy in the base game. Any recommendations?
I pre ordered tbe lifetime pack, and its taking a while to come good but i still think it was a good buy.
ISI_BABYFACTORY
RIP Bro, I miss you
new UI is so crazy
the FIRST option is MULTI PLAYER
and you are forced to wait for servers
when all you wanted was single player.....WHO thought of this !!
This drives me insane.
and then dirt rally came in and claimed victorious! who would of thought codemaster's would come back swinging??? when they 1st announced it i was so hyped and offered ton's of idea's like the m1 procar being added i talked to paul coleman alot back in the day when he worked there! :) if i didn't do that, that car probably would of never been in the game!
I like it..lol 👍
rFactor 2 is the sim I want to like, but just can't get there. I bought it when it was beta/early access, ignored it for a while due to the issues you mentioned (lack of decent content, lack of online play etc), then started casually following its progress after the S397 transition; I even repurchased it since I missed the window for transferring my account. I've been enjoying watching the progress, but it's still such a clunky game to set up that I haven't even bothered installing it on the new PC I built back in October. I'd rather be spending that time driving in iRacing or Assetto Corsa. The potential seems to be there, but I'm not sure it's ever going to be properly realized. It can have the best driving physics in the business, but that doesn't matter when the barrier of entry is so high and the actual payoff is so low (in regards to decent competitive online play, which they're at least starting to address in baby steps). Time will tell.
Very good, well explained although I personally never drive in RF2 I don't like it.
Congratulations
I bought this game just because of Sebring and actually firstly because they were the makers of Sports Car GT. I know some people say SCGT was terrible and that it true for PS but not for PC. Still one of the best games ever. In fact I recently got it to work on windows 10.
Edit: I see recent comments say the creator of this video has passed on. RIP, so sorry to hear this 😢
i have more time in rfactor 2 then any of the other games on pc. i really hope more and more people who do modding would push more mods like more tracks and racing series. the paywall isn't a problem really understandable for some but you gotta remember this is a company, they need that money to come in somehow to keep improving and adding content to this game.
RIP dude.
I've been running rFactor since day one and Love it! Best driving and tuning dynamism imo...but most of the critiques here are very true and hopefully being remedied soon.
RIP Brotha!!
Bravo! I agree with everything you said in this review. I love this game but when I compare it to AMS2 I feel it it lacking in the interface department. rFactor2 is great for the tire model and it gives me the best feeling out of all the sims I use but they need to make some major updates.
What happened to the Inside Sim Racing Video you made a few days ago
Long story short, realized that, while my intent for the video was to "Welcome Darin" back to the community, there was still some bitterness I had behind some things that I needed to work out. That led to me coming off as "Passive aggressive", which isn't really something healthy.
So, I felt it's better for the Sim Racing community if I pulled the video down, and worked more on building the community and working on what works for me
are there any weapon mods?
rFactor2 is a sim with wasted potential. It evokes extreme emotions. A few years ago, the competition was less. Currently, they have to correct the following:
- gross deficiencies in the official content (unrealistic displays in cockpits with a lack of many functions, wrong colors of the tail lights)
- archaic sounds and a total lack of 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound
- total lack of front-wheel drive cars with appropriate physics
- strange DLC policy
- skin removal after each update
- more configuration options for FFB would be useful
- loading times !!!
- tragic behavior of some AIs
- full-fledged multiplayer with a rating.
If they don't correct it, I don't predict a bright future for them...
Wasn't "NASCAR Sim Racing" the last title based off of the ISI Motor Engine from EA? Just wondering, because I'm pretty sure that NT04 was the second to last effort from EA on this game engine.
That may have been derived from the ISIMotor engine, but it was developed by EA Tiburon
@@Simracingpaddock Alright got ya. Thanks for the reply. Love your content, Will! :)
@@Simracingpaddock Feels quite unreal that you're gone now... may your soul rest in peace forever, Will. You will be missed. Thanks for the good times.
the depth of rf2 simulation is - sadly - directly proportional to its clunkiness
Ultimately load times aren't an issue if its a sim. Rfactor is still pretty bad at it but iracing isnt much quicker. I think the other thing u failed to mentioned is that the physics in rfactor is truly better than all other sims.
While I agree that paying for cars and tracks 'a le carte' can get expensive, consider this, it is VERY expensive to create this content. Sure, they could take the cheap way of creating content and just have a single set of physics/characteristics for cars and only modify skins, but who wants that? I know I sure don't.
As for the tracks, I don't have any clue what it costs a company to buy laser scanning equipment or hire a company to do it, then pay for said companies travel/lodging/etc costs to the track, pay for the track to be shutdown for the duration of scanning, then translate scans into the virtual world also adding everything around the track that can be seen (track surfaces, sand, grass, trees, sky, weather, barriers, walls, buildings.. you get the idea). However, while I don't know exactly the cost I'd say it's safe to assume it is VERY expensive.
In addition, they are a business, which means if we want them to continue releasing updates they need to have a method for paying development costs while also (hopefully) putting money aside to save to eventually pay for developing a new game. Otherwise we'll find them, instead of issuing updates, they'll scrap that, and just release a new game every year and make you buy an entirely new game EVERY YEAR. Going rate for new games being $40-60, so $50avg new game cost x 5years = $250, the way it sits right now you can buy _a lot_ of content for that money.
Lastly, if you think $250 is a lot of money (which it is don't get me wrong) try going real racing. If you want a cheap sim experience it exists, get a cheap wheel and a crappy title that doesn't have rolling updates and puts little into their vehicles/tracks. Personally, I don't want them to spoil the immersion and what makes them special, that they bring to the table.
Sorry for the rant, I just hear this comment a lot and I'm not sure all things are considered when saying it. Anyways, thanks for the content, and take care,
-Michael
2023 here we are again with broken 24 Hours of Le Mans Virtual
I just bought Rfactor 2 ( in 2022 mainly because the virtual Le Man was run on it and I was intrigued ) I must say though it's now by far my favourite sim for physics, feel and FFB. The rest however needs a complete overhaul. Even down to winning a race in single player, literally nothing happens lol.
DLC was an expensive add on too for just a few tracks and cars. ( nothing like Iracing though, that just feels like a complete ripoff )
So much potential here though for sure.
Similar story here, although I have owned it for a long time. The DLC is still on sale for a few more hours as of posting this comment and I have purchased the endurance and car packs. The cars feel amazing to drive but the online is dead… I like ACC and RaceRoom for it’s populated lobbies and rF2 just doesn’t deliver servers even for its base content… it’s also such a pain when you find a server for a random series that uses a track of a different version whereby you must download and install that version too to just join in the first place (which hasn’t worked for me). Ok rant over, but I just wish I could make the most of physics and ffb, but I can’t bring myself to buy the rest of the DLC knowing I won’t get to make any use of it such as the Reiza pack. I agree the DLC is far too expensive when not on sale.
Nice video. Agreed with most of your points. However, I disagree with your point that it should download everything. For one, not everyone has fast internet and unlimited data (fortunately I do now, but I know what it's like to have to choose and time stuff what can I download, sometimes even waiting a month so we don't run out of data before), as well as all content taking up twice its disk space (1x unpacked in the install folder, 1x in the workshop folder that you cannot uninstall if you want to keep that content installed). For two, most of the content is just... not up to the quality standards, especially compared to paid DLCs. So currently, whenever I reinstall rFactor 2, I have to download everything that's assigned as first-party official content on my end, wait for it to unpackage (takes a LOT even on an SSD) and then get rid of the stuff I do not want. Even worse, not all of the DLC is on par with the quality standards of newer DLC. But if you bought it, you have absolutely no way to uninstall pieces of content you don't want to see, and instead stare at content with no badges and no UI images in their new UI (Reiza stuff especially, I know it will be updated, planned this year). I would prefer if official content one unsubscribed from would stay like that after a reinstall, as well as after unsubscribing from paid content the sim wouldn't force-resubscribe and download it again.
rFactor 2 has improved a lot, I love the content, I love the physics and it's a sim I can spend hours of just driving and practicing for league racing. But, loading times are terrible, the game crashes sometimes for no reason and this new UI is useless, clunky and not smooth whatsoever... They need to work on the menus and the UI in order to be smooth otherwise players will be disgusted from the beginning. I'm not leaving rFactor 2 anytime soon, it's my go-to sim but I want to have no issues with the PC i have!
@POLNO MIŚ XD 2.0 It does indeed, still a bit clingy at times but it feels complete after so long
what would you say is the best sim for someone just wanting to race 2-4 races a day, preferably ranked to have equal competition and the possibility to move up the ranks? iracing is a bit expensive for this.
Currently, Assetto Corsa with Sim Racing System is a pretty great option, and you can get the complete edition for relatively inexpensive on sale
@@Simracingpaddock thank you! i have registered myself and have to wait to get unlocked by the owner now. i will definitely try it out!
Much respect to William. RIP my friend.
Studio 397 is currently working with Motorsport Games & 704 games to create the next Nascar game release.
Boring.
Its gonna be better than heat 5 💯
@@KCS4LifeOFFICIAL That didn't age well
@@FloosWorld_AoE i know lol, I didnt even buy the game. What a shame
does this game let you race with a friend and fill the grid with AI, like a co-op career mode?
I enjoy the driving model in rFactor 2 offline over any other sims available and the fact that allows mod gives me the perfect excuse to learn how to create a track a make it available online. There is no way anyone are going to create the unknown track from my country, so I'm doing it... Assetto corsa could be more popular and a mod created for it could easily gain more popularity; but there is no reason for me to create such track if i'm not going to enjoy the driving experience.
Multiplayer? not my thing... but I understand the need for better the physics on the edge and stronger and stable platform for it.
The new UI is a joke. They did absolutely nothing to make setting up a grid for a single player race an easy experience. It’s exactly the way it was with the old UI. Why can’t they make it like RaceRoom or Content Manager or iRacing? It’s a joke.
It’s time for AC2, RF3 and RaceRoom2. No more trying to keep old tech alive.
rFactor2 is a big mess,instead of fixing the core game and all the bugs,added real gearbox etc,they keeping making crap.....
dude i said it was during beta and they mocked me on discord
@@MrTripsJ That ain’t cool
Where in the hell can I get the Monster Truck mod WILLIAM?????????
It was called "Monster Madness" by NathanRitchie72 (the same guy who did the toilet mod). Should be able to find it with a quick Google search!
Did they ever add driver gear change animations? 😂
At least rf2 is running more stable after the last update. Was about to stop using it. To be honest only got into it because of the new Zandvoort track. It still is a mess setting up races.
Pls do same for all Sims 2022 edition, thanks.
He has passed away in March 2021
And let them make the road surface better and not so …. 2002 look!
I doubt it’s gonna fly. I loved the hot lap experience back in 2017 and bought every DLC for about 2 years to support development. But I’ve leaned that their so advanced simulation engine is prone to setup hacks I did some testing with motec and came across some weirdness. The final nail in the coffin was iracing releasing a new tire model that wasn’t insta kill on slip. I’m racing in VR so ACC is out of the picture. But if you honestly compare rf2 to iRacing or ACC, rf2 is losing. And the edge in feel because of the tire model, is quickly lost due to its unrealistic suspension model. If you know the basics of car setups in real life and get logical/expected results in one sim, and illogical/unexpected results in rf2, the simulation quality cannot be that high to justify a missing online community, usability problems, stability and performance problems next to questionable sim racers using setup hacks to get to the podium.
I disagree with the statement of it being a hotlap simulator and that the multiplayer is lacking. Because there was limited multiplayer support for so long, leagues have grown and are strongest on this platform than any other. Anyone who spends time trying the leagues that are out there would agree that many of them have some spectacular multiplayer racing with server/admin/stewarding and broadcasting support. But, yes, jump in and drive multiplayer needs major improvement which you did note the competition system came out right as you did your recording. It's helped but has room to grow for sure.
There are things that I don't understand when playing rFactor 2. I feel like some features are completely half assed. Look at your Aston footage at 31:00. It is OBVIOUS that you need to move the UI. But it is 2021 and why can't you move the god damn UI !!!!! They had time to code that shit... I could go on and on about features that make the game not only look, but stuck in 2012. The menus are a maze, you expand a brand in the list of cars and there you go you're in a scrolling session, the triple screen support is incredible once you spend thirty minutes in the log files trying to make the game boot on the three screens, and even then you still have to bear with the flaws about the driving model. Sure the force feedback is alright but why are the cars always on a street tires level of slip angle all the time, why can't you feel the tires lock up at all (other games use sound but RF2 has no sound which in theory is correct for slick tires, but god damn the steering barely gets lighter when locking up), and why most cars are so broken max steering input in the corners with maximum rake is how to go fast in this game ?
I already gave up on rf2. I had big expectations from studio397 but they did almost nothing.
they don't listen to the community
needs more detail in cars, weather and tracks. Cars are getting outdated too
15:45 And now Motorsport Games bought the devs and the game out, providing them exclusive licensing and money for the devs. Guess all 4 of the checklist is fulfilled...
Need more modding suport,more freedom to mod smoke tires,sparks etc,all this stuf is locked,but probably they go kill the modding suport due to the oficial content,been more important,and the competicion system,that nobody ask for,i only stay whit this realy messy sim because is the only i can mod,but for online AC for me is king.
Just added rFactor2 due to the BTCC DLC. Not sure if this is a good thing or not. The FFB is great but the Multiuser is a joke. Nothing but mod issue errors. From what I see in the forums its all about the versions and uploads matching? Too much work to be worth it. Not looking for a degree in simulators. Just want it to work. ACC is a simple select and go.
to be honest - the loading time is the one reason I dont play the game anymore. AMS2/ACC load in a few seconds with a full grid. rf2 takes ages.
It is horrible, doesn't help to have it on a fast NVME drive either. AMS2 has gotten so good lately that I don't care anymore.
you sound so much like Nolan from donut media
Just bought this game on pc and about to check it out, and yes it's sad how u buy a game thinking it's got it all and then finding out there's still a shit load of stuff to buy because u kinda bought a unfinished game because of this sneaky move to make money and to get full experriance from a game it's gonna cost u 5 × more 👎, I'm an old gamer who was playing games when they first came out on ntendo and Sega mega drive and ps1 n so on and have played many many great games in my life of gaming, and up to ps3 whatever game one bought was complete, when ps4 and Xbox one hit the markets it brought with it all this online money making greed as we see with most games these days, I love gaming if theres time to kill but this sneaky greed has made gaming shit af these days, also the loading times ain't a big issue for me as long as I get solid game play and decent content and acuracy in graffics and watching this the solid game play and graffics seems on par but the content for the game as a first buy looks like a big ripoff as with most of these fkng online games these days 😡👎, sorry for anger but it's a fact that will only get worse to a point where only the rich get it all and it's about there already ffs, not good for future gaming imo, money does not grow on people's backs lol, these devs are just keyboard warrior pricks thinking how best to get overwhelmingly rich on games like this, i also bought a game pack offer not so long ago from steam for a supposedly bargain price only to find out one of the two games don't work no more because it needs a server that's long dead, WTF ???, Gaming is getting shit lately man 👎
LOL I feel like the script is being read by Tim Cook...
talking about improving user experience? I bought it, installed it ... and nothing in the game. No car, no track no nothing. Guess what I did? I moved to ACC, where everything worked right off the bat ... I wanted to experience this RF2 that everyone is talking about. Well. I can't. Thumbs up RF2.
I had Rfactor 2 installed on my hard drive for several years . It has by far the best physics and FFB available on any simulation but there is no "RACING " to be had. Just a company releasing more cars and track every few months. This only goes so far with virtually no-one online to race with and unadjustable AI in single player scenarios. AI cars will appear up and down the race order from race to race. So if you set up a series of cars and tracks to race with , a top 3 finisher in race 1 could be languishing in dead last the next race. With no ability to adjust the AI talents via an AI Talent Editor , users are left wondering what's the point to racing off-line at all . I've simply grown tired of waiting for this pretty much standard feature to be added to RFactor 2 and no longer play it at all . It has been removed from my hard drive .
I never use single player . Just set up your own dedicated server and drive . You can run it on the same PC . You could even invite others to join you assuming you are online .
my top sim, no other sim comes close for that connection with the car on track experience
Then you have not tried Skip Barber car on iRacing then (that is the best driver2car2road connection in any Sim/any car with the most advanced tire model)... but I have to admit: with GT3 cars rf2 offers the best driving experience (in my opinion better than ACC or iRacing)
@@iseeq72 yes I have & your right it’s brill , not tried it in last 2 years though I’ll get back to Iracing if they offer a renewal promo
Rfactor2 ffb is my preference
To state RF2 has the most advanced tire model is a Bigggg FALSE STATEMENT. For instance, to get the most grip out of any car, just drop the PSI to the lowest possible.
I would also add that purely physical models (which rf2's model is not) will be superior in the end. Just takes a lot of time to get it right, best seen with iRacing. It take them forever to get it right in a specific car, despite having a lot of resources to work on it.
As a single player BTCC civic fan, I really didn't feel much improvment.
It's always been great....