How the FX Panthera is Different from other FX Airguns with Hein Frommann
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2022
- The man that is no stranger to the podium, Hein Frommann unveils the inner workings of the FX Panthera with Jon from FX Airguns USA. The Panthera is a new rifle for FX and Hein gives you the breakdown on its differences and why he will be using this new platform as his new 100 yard Bench Rest competition rifle.
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I said I wasn't going to buy anymore PCP's for awhile but one more won't hurt
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these! Thank you FX for ALWAYS finding excellent and effective innovation with each evolution of product. This rifle is going to be a game changer!
Was gonna order my 2nd Vudoo but rather have an FX Panthera now! 👍🏼
Awesome airgun again by FX, and awesome innovation and staying ahead of it. Well done.
Hope someday I have that too
I'm in for a Panthera Hunter, when they are released. LOL
Good news, first shipment is in (Stateside) and we're starting to ship to dealers tomorrow. Krale should have their shipment in two weeks as well. They're rolling out!
Awesome 👍👍
Exciting to say the least. We will see how it stands up to being dragged through a course and ir the woods.
awesome video guys. fx is the leader in airguns for this reason.
Informative video, Hein is a real wizard 😎. Please tell me how many shots I can expect from the Panthera 700 .22 cal, with 34 grain slugs at around 1.000 - 1.050 fps? Thanks!
You’ll see around 18 shots per fill.
@@FXAirguns And how many max shots estimation for Panthera 600 .25 or .30 for coyote or boar? Considering the many power levels on that turning knob. Would you please hurry up bring out the Panthera.357 slug or .257 slug or .308 slug? I can't wait to bench it against my AFTxSS .257 and .308 slugger. Great video delivery Mr. Jon and Mr. Hein. Thank you.
I would never be able to afford any FX gun. But I do own the chrono. This would be the one I would try to save up for 4 sure. I love accuracy at long distances. I mean all I get to shoot is UX G2 at 166yds. I love the FX gun, But never get to hold one,🤯 Awesome gun Love it.
I have the FX Chrono, it seems to not be able to go over 999 fps. Is there some update I need?
@@geraldkoth654the specs from fx are Velocity Range: < 335m/s (1099fps). I'm not aware of any updates.
What you tell yourself become reality. If you truly want one of these rifles you will find a way to own one. Well worth every penny spent/saved!
Good afternoon, excellent FX PANTERA, what a price it has directly from the factory, greetings from Mexicali Baja California Mexico
God damn it every time I see this baby I want it more and more it looks so amazing!!!!
Which liners do the 600mm .22 & .25 and 700mm .22 & .25 come with? Happy Holidays! Kev
I’m assuming the Superior Heavy on .22 but I’m wondering if it’s the Superior Heavy or Slug in .25?
Hell yeah
I already own an Impact M3 in 22 cal. and love it. I made various upgrades and service the gun myself. Will the Panthera be easy to upgrade and service by owners? or the gun will need to be sent back to the dealers like Utah Air guns or the factory?
For service you will need to send gun in to authorized service stations
It is actually much more straight forward rifle than the Impact. The only tricky area is the barrel since it goes through the center of the plenum. That's the aspect where we recommend a dealer.
When will you be releasing the FX Impact M4. It would be nice to consider a few options.
1. Locking system for quick tune settings so micro wheel isn't hit and easily adjusting our tune.
2. More Rigid barrel system.
3. different lengths including a 800mm with shroud so it's not so loud.
4. 700cc bottle
5. instead of an under fill male port have the fill port like the Panthera or something more convenient.
I am waiting on a M4. I hope all is well with you and your families.
Sincerely,
AHC
For the love of God, start sending some over to Utah Airguns! My order is waiting. 🙂
When is the .30 cal hunting version going to be released?
Para cuando una FX para la modalidad de BR 25 aire?
Where can we get the new regulator to fit it to my m3?
As an FX Impact 3 owner I find the length, weight, accuracy, and balance perfect. The Panthera I feel is rather more specialized, and certainly much too long my woods use at 49 Inches - Its as long as my McMillan .338 Lapua.
Don't rush! Wait for Panthera MK3.
I have so many questions I'll start with this one ..what's the maintenance like?
the Pantheras theme song is RESPECT by Pantera
Is there a .30 out or 35
I think all I've seen is 22 and 25
The new tech is awesome.....im more excited for this tech getting to other fx form factors however. The panthera is beautiful and if it performs as advertised that will be awesome. BUT. Kinda a one trick pony. Not as serviceable by the end user....no barrel swaps let alone caliber changes will be impossible.
Think ill wait till panthera tech gets to a fx platform that makes the 2k price more reasonable....this valving on a impact combined with 480cc 300 bar bottle would net another mag (maybe more) or more of high power shots in .22! if im spending 2k its got to be for something as versatile as my M3.
I think this is a 1500 to 1700 dollar gun. They keep repeating that its competition gun. You can get a precision ruger .22 for 4 to 5 hundos.....even with a barrel upgrade your lookn at less than half the cost of the panthera. Noy yo mention the biggest cost of entry in pcp shooting....your air source. I spent another 1k on compressors and i went the cheap route. another 6 hundos for a tank. there are precision lr ammo with comparable std dev. Yes that ammo is pricey but even then with the cost of air source for pcp and a 2k entry level platform still take some time to break even!
10 to 15 rimfire deviation is realistically all you need for accuracy at distances in nrl22. Bring on the head to head .22 vs panthera tho. be cool to see it!
If FX is serious about converting rimfire pros they need to consider their pricing. maybe they should put their engineering guys on hpa compressors to come up with a quality portable affordable airsource. the whole sell the razor cheap to make money on the blades business model.
any rate their really the only ones pushing innovation in pcps so i guess they get to do what they want.
You're not really competing with a 4-500$ .22 let's be honest. (Even the Ruger LTR is 800 on a good day) Yes is it done sure but a lot of these guys just the addons, the real gear people, and guys who live by the science of ballistics for precision are getting everything for the weight, the exact style etc etc. There are so many factors but when you are doing that you're looking at upwards of $2 - $3,000 dollar guns. And the Panthera, like all of FX, is the higher end of the deal I don't see the price being too off. I mean again you're also saying 1500-1700 for a 1900 - 2k gun. But also the entire air portion can be taken out of cost because just like any hobby there is an outside cost to keep that hobby going. If you got a dream, I think the most basic model your still gonna spend money on a compressor if you wanted to be able to fill yourself, so any entry guy is gonna look at the price. Anyone that isn't entry into airguns is just looking at gun prices.
If FX makes hardcore HPA compressors, they'll be what Amazon is to online sales to the Air gun industry. haha Hey, maybe that's actually not a bad idea haha. Anyway, I do agree for this purpose of PRS even hunting I wouldn't mind taking it for a hunt this isn't bad pricing, comparatively.
@Jim Ryan the ruger percision is max 600 dude and as low as 430. I did mention upgrading the ruger...that model ruger with a upgraded barrel won several competitions in the pa area near me. Against vudoos and the like.
You still have to get upgrades for the panthera to compete dude. even spending 3k for a top of the line vudoo puts the panthera even when you include a (cheap) air source. Will the panthera be better? can you service the panthera yourself like you can the 22 lr or m3?
1500 to 1700 for 2k gun...lol who says its a 2k gun...fx? Thats marketing dude....lol
My M3 cost 2k..a lil overpriced maybe...but i can configure it for everything from .177 pellet to .30 cal slugs and tune it to shoot everything in between at a very high level! If the m3 couldn't do that id just bought a tapian or a cricket. for 5 bills less.
I have argued for cheaper panthera on multilpe sites as of now...lol always someone defending high prices. no one makes a compelling argument though.....heres a steel maning argument for a 2k panthers.....
Out of the box its capable of shooting high power long range slugs at lower reg and with higher precision. The lower reg along with the guns design makes for a gun that shoots without the recoil and barrel flip of the m3 and or other pcps. no super heavy hammer or slug kit, and barrel changes and additions required! No need to buy a buut plate or extended bottom rail...hell kinda convincing myself here...lol
The above is the best case argument for the panthera at 2k. If the above turns out to be true and is important, and has value for you then have it guys. Anything else is straight marketing and hype. For me my m3 does way more and has value enough i splurged on it.
If the panthera could easily change barrels i may be more inclined but as is i dont think its worth 2k! this tech will migrate to other fx platforms....is fx going to make their entire line 2k? Come on guys!
Be a fan of fx....not a fan boy...smh
P.S. I dont agree you take the air source out of the cost i mean wtf dude...lol also if i grant that then ammo cost for lr can be ignored by that logic there by making one of the better arguments for pcps nil.
It’s still an air gun valves and regulator what’s new except you need to carry loads of air tanks with you buy a break barrel for your yard and a rim fire for competition rifle shooting… This stuff is just nonsense to me 😊
@Jim Ryan I made a similar argument on airgunnation. One less reg also...lol Same facilities and process and fx RnD kinda pays for itself as they use influence-rs that also market!
@@shtizen4371 you’re right there is a much simpler way to put a lump of lead on a target.. If people buy in to this nonsense then you have to say FX are doing well on marketing. It’s definitely not for me and no better than any other high end PCP it also looks like something you’d clean the patio with 😂
Send one to Steve over at AEAC for a review, 25cal and one to Will Roman airgun, my Florida family,thanks in advance
What makes this rifle better than a long barrel impact?
Impact m3 is much better investment. Shoots slugs and pellets. And is more powerful and has more shot count than the panthera. Panthera is better suited as a bench gun.
I'd love an FX Impact for small game hunting but they just seem too complicated, and when you introduce rubber seals and O rings that will fatigue and break down over time, a 17 series Anschutz in 22 cal for around the same price or something in 17 HMR starts looking a whole lot better to me. Sorry guys 🤔
I’d say take a look at the FX Crown. That’s a very straight forward rifle where you really don’t need to worry about o rings and moving parts. Get it tuned to what you want to shoot, and you won’t have to mess with it! (plus it’s still got our STX barrel system and people have been winning benchrest competitions with it like last years RMAC winner!)
But this one is not recorded by the ATF or the FBI.
Im using my Panthera for N50 pro class benchrest
...just the last homework - build the Panthera into nice wooden classic looking variant, please
A little confused. If this is basically a slug gun but is also a competition gun doesn't the benchrest competitions require you to shoot pellets?
I thought after I bought my m3 i was done but I really really the Panthera. Fx is so far ahead of the game I don't ever see myself looking elsewhere.
Is there a factory baffle around the end of the barrel 🤔?
I believe Matt mentioned in another video that there are a couple in the front for a little dampening but it isn’t substantial.
@@SnoweyMist I kinda remember that.
Dam thing is LONG without a moderator. LOL Mine arrives in a few days. Very Happy 😊 😃
@@stedyone1090 nice! I’m hoping to order one a little after new years after my post Christmas wallet trauma lol.
@@SnoweyMist I was on an early preorder list. Should arrive in a few days according to the dealer.
Already have a scope and Patriot Javelins Gen 1 & Gen 2 40grain slugs.
Shot Gen 2 26 grain javelin slugs today outa my Katran HP at 1014fps Very accurate ..
Everything is perfectly engineered/ designed. But the bottle should not be on the butt, moreover the air bottle is small and if fitted with a larger bottle it will not fit between the pistol grib. For whatever reason Aigun scientists may explained the air bottle should be like other FX (below the barrel) in order to boost shot counts.....
While I agree with your sentiments on low shot count, maybe you're not realizing that this gun is specifically for NRL / PRS and shooting off of barriers and obstacles.
@@joshuagibson2520 they said in video FX panthera is able for hunting, but i believe it's got not power to kill a pig.
why are you guys selling the P 500 in .177 which has a barrel for pellets if you're saying at the very beginning of the video that this rifle is not built for it and you'd rather buy a different model if you want to shoot pellets?
my idea was to buy P500 in .177 and use it for FT/HFT and find the precision in it. So you're saying don't buy it and go for something else?
Good morning sir hi how are you prices and place home delivery
How Much
USD: $1899.99 - 1999.99 depending on which model (Panthera 500, Panthera 600 & Panthera 700)
OK....how do we pronounce the name of this gun? Is it like the rock band? Or do we use the H ?
gun looks cool video sucks a$$ could have done without all the movie clips
Found it very distracting from an otherwise informative video
Can it shoot .30 cal slugs at 1000+ fps
My dream is to get a fx panthera, here in my country (Brazil) it costs the price of a car, without conditions, help me to get one.
Not trying to be negative in anyway, but I have a few questions. Could you please elaborate on why I cannot change my own barrel if I like. I own many FX air guns. I have repaired and resealed every one of them. I am not trying to be sarcastic, but it sounds like to me I can’t even take the gun apart to repair it now. Degassing the gun, unscrewing some screws. Unthreading a few things, repairing some O-rings is all it’s really gonna take to change a barrel. I just want to make myself clear. I’m not here to bash the brand that I love. I just want to be able to do what I want to do with my gun without having to send it to a dealer to do what I can do. Hopefully there are going to be some exceptions.
Hope you had some wonderful holidays Anthony. Essentially, this new practice has been adopted because of the plenum around the barrel, as we discussed in the video. With this new aspect in mind, we have created a standard for safety by only allowing authorized/trained dealers to swap barrels on the FX Panthera.
What would it take to be a dealer here in PA? There are no dealers here in PA that I’m aware of and I’m not joking. I already make my own projectiles. I’ve already had this idea for a while just have not gone ahead and try to pursue it.
@@anthonydefillippis8806 Please contact our FX USA service department or you can find on the FXairguns-usa.com website link for dealer applications
But they always have the competitions in the middle of two mountains,
Wich is beautiful on TV, but anxiety disorder is real
The out takes are comic gold 🤣
Faça a doação de uma carabina dessa pra mim
Big bore coming soon?
It's ambidextrous....unless you want to tether =)
You can also move the fill port to under the breech if that's an issue ;-)
@@FXAirguns I know I was just busting balls. This gun is growing on me. FX will get my Xmas bonus lol
😁
Impact m3 is much better investment. Shoots slugs and pellets. And is more powerful, has more shot count than the panthera. Panthera is better suited as a bench gun for precision target shooting
The impact is a phenomenal investment for airgunning of all sorts. The Panthera is for the PRS shooters as you stated. (Also some hunters as you will see shooters exploring with this rifle in weeks to come.) But they are two different guns designed with different purposes in mind. Hence why you see the lower shot count on the Panthera which (again) is a specific type of competition gun.
And technically the Panthera is more powerful than the Impact 😃
And them regulator gauges are like noz clocks in a car .
💖 *Promosm*
Good👍
This type of pellet magazine.its about time it was removed form airguns and start to engineer an internal magazine that's hidden . A bright yellow dot/a line or light that shows empty mag on the gun near the bolt or cocking handle.
R&D should have place the tank in the front rather than using the tiny tank near your face.
This is very dangerous because if the tank blow up, so well your face.
Why FX & everyone show with a scope when the rifle doesn't come with on nor precision manual sight?
So starting out it's going to hit you north of $2,800.00.
Airforce airguns, Evanix, Gamo TC have air cylinder 3 mm away from your cheek. So nothing new.
The air bottle needs not to be seen and covered
I have read this comment about six times. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the bottle is pretty clear on the video, and I'm sure if you were shooting, you could also simply look down at the bottle. What do you mean covered?
@@jrmac92 the bottle on the fx looks ugly to me . If it was longer and thinner the bottle it could be hidden in the butt if a new butt was designed.
@@johnmasoncooper9725 Ohhh, I see what you're suggesting now. To me, I thought you were saying it should not be seen and covered. Hmm, there's some pros and cons to this suggestion. I also don't know if it's possible without redsigning that same size bottle which, while small, seems to work perfectly and not be overly stocky like a 480 bottle. A tube bottle could be an answer not sure if they have them in this size or if it would be too long. Just thinking now. lol. But for a competition or a hunt where you would only be shooting once, maybe twice (hunting), I'm sure it would work perfectly. And with airguns, everyone is so used to seeing bottles that it's not really an eyesore. In my opinion, at least. But maybe a cover would be neat as long as it didn't add more weight, haha. The issue with a cover, though, is when you hiking (this is from a military background), ounces equal pounds, and pounds equal pain. haha
I'm 53 and ex British mil myself . A cover would protect the bottle from damage direct frost and sunlight.
@@jrmac92 carbon fibre . Lightweight
I would like to know if the .30 cal panthera can also be used as a hunting platform?
The Panthera definitely has the power for hunting! Even with being built as a competition PRS-style airgun, there is versatility with the rifle.
Whats with all the cinema interludes. Total Waste of Time and did not add, in fact, Detracts dfrom the video. I gave up watching 7 minutes in and could not be bothered watching anymore.
YES IT'S DIFFERENT from the other rifles. The others works out of the box, this NO. Looks good in video. In real is way different. Pressure gauge damaged due to the extremely poor packaging. Cherry on the cake, it's leaking out of the box, no way to fill it. SOME OF THEM CAN SHOOT GOOD, mine is not even able to be loaded. From a Swedish company with this hype this is simply UNACCEPTABLE.
Don't get spending all that money on something u get like 10shots out of before the tank is empty or have extreme bullet drop. Air guns like these are so pointless. Almost 2k for a gun that barely pushes 900fps and is barley as accurate as a 22lr.
Understand some of what you're saying, but the "low" 15 shots per tank is when pushing something heavy like a 40gr .22 at 1040, or a 70gr. .30 at 990. And we content these are more accurate than .22LR, certainly standard .22LR and we suggest these will run up right against high end .22LR that are going to have a similar price point. So nope, we're not barely pushing 900fps and barely (or even barley) as accurate as a 22lr. 😉 - The proof is in the pudding so to saw so I suggest we all sit back and see how the results are as these start getting into shooters hands.
@@FXAirguns Don't get me wrong it's probably a nice really good air rifle and I like idea of putting air agents gun powder but. The money you have to spend on that gun is far frome worth the money in my eyes. Especially when that gun cost as mutch as a decent AR or just about anny decent gun. A good .22lr cost about $300 to $400 and with cci stingers you get 1650fps with a 32 grain bullet. Mount a scope and supresor and it will do just as well or slightly less as that 2k air rifle dont seem like a good trade off to me. I can see paying that much for like a 50cal air gun that can push 1200fps or more If yall decide to make one tho.
Rick, how could you say such a thing...
SPA did the over the barrel plenum a long time ago. Just search SPA M30C. C'mon FX, do you copy from China?
Not really, what the Chinese did was make air cylinder around the barrel, FX has a separate air cylinder so not the same.
@@ronpauly2 but the idea is not new.
Please leave out the cartoon distractions. So annoying.
make it an airsoft gun
nice design
Most countries do not allow air guns to be used.
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这是我加你过的最丑的fx气枪。这是在开倒车。设计水平的落后。非常丑的气枪。在中国早就有类似于这样子的秃鹰中握。只是中国不允许，要不然这样子的款式都是淘汰产品。太难看了，又长又丑，又重。
It's not an airsoft gun, it's a pcp air rifle.
@@harveymencey7234 十二年前就玩的不爱玩的东西了，
@@DIY-vv4fu ??? I don't understand what you're meaning.
They should add the same mechanism as excavators on tanks so military tanks can spin around faster dont you think ? 🫡