The Sam Darnold Experiment: What Went Wrong In 2021?
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- The Sam Darnold Experiment: What Went Wrong In 2021?
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He reminds me a lot of Alex Smith, when Alex Smith went through struggles for the first part of his career until he finally got the right coaching, it’s all about good coaching at the end of the day, Darnold is still young and definitely still has the ability and skills to be a good stsrting QB in the league.
Oh shit he got frank Reich now
The more and more I hear him speak, the more I think he just doesn’t have the mental makeup to become great, or to even improve exponentially. Let’s make it clear that his problem has never been talent. In fact, it’s this talent that brought him these NFL opportunitIes when the production never necessarily suggested greatness. He seems like a genuinely good dude, and extremely humble. But I don’t see that irrational confidence that is necessary to stand out performance-wise, at all times that makes people gravitate to you and buy in even more. I really hope I’m wrong about him, but I can’t keep advocating for him until he puts it all together, like his talents would suggest.
Irrational confidence is the opposite of humility.
@@kimyona9746 Exactly what I was getting at. There’s no way of flourishing in the league if you don’t have that insane level of confidence, especially at the QB position.
@@ifheavenwashuman i was just replying to the fact that you said he seems humble
At the risk of sounding like a loser Darnolds just not Alpha enough to command respect of an NFL locker room. And his play on the field doesn't do him any favors
@@Zaghzackio at least he's getting paid 18 mil ish
He never had a supporting cast and played in 3 systems in 4 years. He has made numerous wow throws in his career, he will have a few great years if put into a good situation
See the thing about Tannehill is he wasn't a bad QB in Miami. He carried them to a 10-6 record with little help. He was only shipped out because he kept getting hurt and it was time to start over.
I was about to say this, Tannehill had shown way more at that point in his career than Darnold has.
He’s got the talent, nobody has ever questioned that, he was the number 3 overall pick just a couple years ago. His problem is his ability to make plays under pressure and his decision making during crucial and sometimes simple scenarios. He also probably doesn’t have the mindset to become great and ultimately just can’t hold his own as a starting QB in the NFL.
You mean Sam is somewhat too comfortable with his routine?
Neanderthal!
He’s so young… the NFL has no patience it’s unfortunate. System, coach all that matters
Love how a channel talks about why a player is a bust using actual stats, playbook route running, and actual nfl facts and people in the comments still say he’s wrong🤣
Analysis: he’s not good enough. Makes bad decisions.
The jets ruined him
@@scuproductions stunted his growth for sure he’s still making the same mistakes from his rookie season
@@spaceymcgrady1 yeah cuz he was never given a chance to develop
Lol
He sucks
He has talent and will 100% perform well in a good situation. It's just when the situation is bad, he is awful. His decision making is a huge mess when things around him aren't going well. The situations he's been in for 4 years has killed chances at developing him. I hope he keeps getting chances to be a starter, but he needs to be challenged. Matt Corral isn't ready, so I think they should trade for Minshew to put pressure on him. He'll have to earn the starting job that way. They could also trade for Garoppolo or Mayfield, but both are better than Darnold right now and he probably wouldn't have a chance at winning the starting job.
Baker? Yes. I’d do it in a heartbeat.
i’m with you he is plenty talented enough especially rushing witch he’s underrated with people are acting like last year was a good situation it just wasn’t i’m a panthers fan and trust me this year he’s set much better o line great weapons this is his make or break year
If you perform bad under pressure, you’re not really reliable. Lets the end the excuses please. Your acceptance of mediocrity is perhaps why the Jets are where they are.
@@elitegaming2385 I see where you’re coming from but even when he had time and no pressure he still made terrible decisions. The raw Talent is there but might be too deep to uncover at this point
@@thegreat9481 the jets let Darnold go.....which is the opposite of your point. the Panthers signed Sam long term.......why? Worry about YOUR team.
His first season starting at USC was really incredible. That throw he made to take the lead in the Rose Bowl is still one of the best throws I've ever seen, he has all the tools in the world and I thought we were looking at the next Andrew Luck-type prospect. The following season at USC, he just became more of an erratic passer and played scared. I think this is a real case of a player just folding under the pressure of expectation - even the first play of his NFL career he said "I won't lie, the INT was because I was nervous" and then against the Patriots we got the infamous "I'm seeing ghosts".
Just not mentally built for the NFL or maybe a few seasons of being a backup will do him some good to mature.
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Biggest thing that went wrong was offensive line injuries that left little to no protection and his performance got worse and worse as more and more offensive linemen combinations were on the field.
His rookie season was rough but he still proved capacities to become a good qb in the future (17 tds, 15 picks, 2,900 yds, 77.6 rtg)
His sophomore year he improve dramatically but still there were some holes on the team (19 tds, 13 picks, 3,000 yds, 84.3 rtg)
His third season in general the Jets struggled, he ended getting benched by midseason and the Jets decided to cut ties with Gase
(9 tds, 11 picks, 2,200 yds, 72,7 rtg)
The Pathers picked his 5th year option paying the Jets a second round pick and some late rounders in exchange for the inconsistent and unhealthy Qb Sam Darnold, well it started promising but everything fell down to quickly... (9 tds, 13 picks, 2,500, 71.9 rtg)
Sam carrer in my opinion has been awful in everyway but he doesn't have the fault of everything...
Since 2020 I already thought that at best he could become an Alex Smith type qb but he just didnt pan out in every situation and every game, to be fair he wasn't supported at all, especially under Gase but guys like Stafford, Watson and many others put up amazing stats in toguh situations.
Atm his carrer is pretty over....
It’s called having no receivers, Robby Anderson was a disgrace and drug people down with him. Also known as having a Swiss cheese, roll over when touched O-line, plus terrible play calling and godawful blocking down field. It was a perfect storm but Darnold literally held that team together, despite his team abandoning him. Team ball or go cry a river and make excuses. To blame Darnold at this point is just weak. One player doesn’t fix 15 others, they fix themselves, Steve Wilks brought that heavy dose of reality, something the team of grown ass men desperately needed.
Noti gang
I believed that both Sam Darnold and Geno Smith would improve after getting out of New York. This doesn't seem to have happened.
They stink
Geno has made himself at least a solid backup qb who may start this year
then Mayfield come
Geno is absolutely terrible
@@FuttBuckerson87 Geno Smith is probably the worst qb in the league his decision making is terrible. Constantly throws into triple coverage or forcing throws to make the big play and ends up eating yards or getting a pick.
Darnold wasn't good last year, but he has also never had proper pass-protection in his entire career. Now that the Panthers have addressed the offensive line in free agency and drafting a STUD in Ikem Ekwonu, I feel like Darnold could have a decent bounce back season. I am by no means saying Sam Darnold is a good quarterback, all I'm saying is that I wouldn't completely close the door on him yet
That play with Cam Erving getting walked back was spooky. Getting Ickey was the best decision we made all offseason
@@dominicfaison5889 facts
Ghost Busters failed to bust the ghosts in the secondaries haunting Sam. If it were me, I'd sue them for damages.
I like these kinds of videos.
People forget, the play is to throw it to DJ moore. Like in the huddle, they say exactly who it’s going to. So qbs forcing throws is bad, but understandable
That philly game hurts everytime I see it. Our defence turned the ball over so many times just for darnold to give it right back. Defence held relatively strong and put the team on jts back, still wasn't enough
He made Robbie Anderson think about retiring
Robbie sucks he should retire
Really really good video
great video
I can see him having a job at the USFL next season
panthers also asking: what went wrong in 2022?
and what went wrong in 2023?
It does hurt he didn’t work out because I remember being so high on him after that classic usc penn state rose bowl
3:42 I noticed you had the score incorrect. Panthers were up 15-6, not the eagles. I knew that as an eagles fan cause we were losing that entire game until late in 4th quarter. But otherwise a solid video
As a Panthers fan I remember that game clearly. I was dumbfounded that we actually lost that game. The defense looked like world beaters the entire game. The offense getting stuck in wet concrete and the blocked punt was so bad that it might've ruined our season with the kind of effect that has on a locker room.
Sam was on crappy teams. He is on a good team now with the 49ers. Welcome Sam.
And now he is on the Vikings. SKOL
As a Panthers fan. Even when we were 3-0 I wasn't overall too impressed with him. He led the league in Rushing TDs. MaCaffrey could of done that if given the ball. Though he had a shitty O-line. Needs to improve his game fast. He can.
Facts his dumbass fumbled a snap at the goal line against the jets
I've never liked his game, I thought it was crazy for the jets to draft darnold at 3 and really think corral has the arm talent and quick processor to start this season
4:40 sam threw that before DJ got out of his break. anticipation. DJ stopped and didn't run to the ball (looks like he didn't think he'd get thrown the ball). At the same time, Sam threw it to the wrong side.
Career revival is putting lightly. At this point, it would seem like a miracle if Sam played like Miami Tannihill.
During our win streak, I was thinking "OK still shaking Jets off of him, but this is a decent starting point." Turns out that was the best he had
Darnold was ruined by the jets
A lot of young QBs still have upside even if they've been ass, but I think Sam is beyond saving now
I’m not sure that the Jets ruined him. They certainly didn’t do Darnold much favors and any young QB was going to struggle at least somewhat there. But if you’re that dude you can be put in bad situations and still at least look like a competent starting QB. Look and Burrow and Murray their rookie years or Stafford in Detroit. I doubt Darnold would’ve been that great of a quarterback even on a good team.
While the Jets did him no favors....they didn't ruin him. He was bad in college before they drafted him. I remember the entire NFL fan community laughing at the Jets for even picking him so high.
Darnold will become the next Brady
The Cowboys game broke him, you could see it, he was wrecking shop and standing tall and looking good, but the Offensive line against the Cowboys just fumbled the bag and it got him way off key and pairing that with their loss in that game, his hot streak was over. He buckled the next week after overthinking the situation, he lost the focus and reverted to where he was at before.
Easy their you’re cowboys still were overrated pounding on you’re chest that you ruined a quarterback who was already ruined is funny you are a 1 and done in the playoffs every year and you are so irrelevant the teams that beat you don’t even brag it’s just expected.
Man our schedule started off easy, he was always bad
he is plenty talented enough especially rushing witch he’s underrated at but people are acting like last year was a good situation it just wasn’t i’m a panthers fan and trust me this year he’s set much better o line great weapons this is his make or break year
He's got the talent. Doesn't have the brains. That's what seperates him from at least 28 other starting QBs in the league.
He plays like me when I play madden, I do dumb ish knowing doing this will most likely lead to a bad outcome
Im a real panthers fan but you should do a video for the wr show plays there didnt run there route hard or droped passes even tough ones. Sam darnold could be great qb but the wideout gotta make tough plays for him
As a Vikings fan i find it hilarious that he just became the new Vikings QB 😅
2024 vikings, 11 - 6 or 10 - 7 . . . darnold makes playoffs
He went one from one dead franchise to another. Both bottom five O-Lines and bottom tier wide receiver cores. Shitty coaching on both teams and bam, you end up with Darnold.
Panthers should give Mayfield a shot, he'll likely do a lot better. I don't think he's great, but he could be good.
Let's see what he can do with a good O-Line for once in his career. Panthers spent the #6 pick in the draft on the best Tackle and brought in a great pass protector from the Rams along with some other changes. What they haven't done is give him any vote of confidence from the coaching staff. Matt Rhule is on the hotseat and deservedly so. He is a big part of the problem. Darnold has flaws, but until the team gets behind him every mistake will be scrutinized from here on out. Every QB needs confidence to play well, especially in the NFL. Either plant your flag with your starting QB or just move on to another one. The organization is just as much to blame as Darnold.
the panthers were actually up 15-6 in the 3rd quarter not the other way around and lost to the eagles 21-18. they had a chance for one last drive to tie the game up but sam threw a pick to steven nelson with 2 minutes left blowing a 12 point lead.
You guys wanna see what Sam Darnold could be at his peak? Watch the 2019 Jets vs Cowboys highlights. He lit up the Cowboys first game off injury.
Cowboys defense was candy 🍭
He did but to be fair the Cowboys were missing 7 starters that game
@@Chosen1of2012 and he was coming off Mono and had to wear extra protection so he didn’t get like actually hurt. Career ending
i just want to see the oline improved this year it was horrible for us nice video
MVP season incoming
Good coke
The closest he will get to an MVP is an NVP in a regular season game
@@amaze_z1953 Or if he plays as himself in Madden and edits his stats to make himself a 99 overall player.
Actually flip the score at 3:40. We were up 15-6, we being the panthers
🤔🤔 ion think he’s a bust I can see some potential in him it’s just that mane folds when the walls come crashing down
7:40 no wait you just said this. Those top five guys have a low completionunder pressure because they toss the ball out of bounds and live to play another down. That's literally the problem, and it is a little bit on the Jets. He's everything they drafted, great arm good athlete good guy, but he has been poorly trained to see the field at NFL pace and confidently pick the best option for the situation
Sam Darnold stays seeing ghosts.
im a jets fan who was 50 50 split on keeping Sam around for 1 more year in this offense. I like Sam , but you still see all the same things you saw with the jets. He hardly ever gets his feet and eyes aligned on a throw especially while pressured. i dont feel like ive seen any actual improvement in his game over the past 3 seasons. is zach wilson going to be good ? who knows. but i definitely think the jets made the right choice letting Sam go when then did at this point. i feel like by now we know the player he is. While very talented there is something missing from the mental side of the game that he lacks.
Of course you do. Every rookie coming into the league that has turned out to be good all had one of: good OL, good run game, decent weapons outside, a good defense, or very good coaching, or a combination of these. No one grows all by themselves. Every bust points back to this early in his career.
Darnold had none of that. None. Bad penalties, bad playcalling, and injuries also derailed his first 3 years. I'll go out on a limb and say that ankle injury his first year really made him skittish back there. He can't get comfortable. Can't process information quickly. Maybe sitting and watching for a year or half a year might clear his head, but the guy is damaged goods right now.
Why would I care if someone's pro-bowl caliber? That's a popularity contest, not a talent-based metric.
there’s no such thing as being inconsistent; it’s just being bad. if your accuracy is inconsistent, it’s just bad. obviously guys will make throws sometimes
Matt corral was like a sixth round pick
Tom Brady should play in the USFL after retiring from the NFL
As a panthers fan this is an amazing video u earned a subscriber
It's hard to deny this guy has talent. He did make some what tha f**k decisions last season.. Hopefully this year he has it together
I do believe he's a playoff caliber QuaterBack. He's just gotta show up every game and don't let mistakes haunt em
You have a very similar voice to Gbay99
On the Eagles play you notice the RG, and RT are both beat, and the Eagles defenders are inches from his throwing arm? That clearly made him panic, the 2nd INT is again fully the fault of the line cause as you said the LT got dropped in his lap. He never had realistic time to the 'see' the checkdown options on either play. All QBs play like a deer in headlights when the line is bad, and bad lines condition QBs to be bad QBs. See: David Carr. Having an improved line 'should' make him a better QB. There's 35-40 QBs that can take a team into the playoffs so long as the o-line is good enough to give them time to play. There's really only about 5 truly great QBs in the league at any one time and the rest need support to succeed. There's actually very few JaMarcus Russell's and Ryan Leaf's out there. So yeah... TLDR what went wrong with Sam in 2021? The answer is Matt Paradis was the worst center in football, the guards were trash that couldn't cut it in the USFL, and LT didn't get sorted out till Brady Christensen got his shot, and Moton is... well my fellow Panthers fans overhype him. He's good but he's not the all-star people make him out to be. But even still Moton can't block everyone.
This year I think Corbett, Bozeman, Moton, Christensen and Icky (who we got super lucky to grab) is on paper the best 5 guys collectively we've had in over 2 decades.
Future USFL Hall of Famer Sam Darnold
The reason all those QBs have a lower completion % under pressure is because they throw it away a lot of the time
He was never good. He made 1 or 2 good plays and was garbage the rest of the way. Jets were a shithole but Darnold was never good, just glad people finally realized
As a Jet fan i can confidently say that Gase and his coaching staff had a big influence in the formation of Sam as a pro.They were not the only factor, but it's a large part of the story. It's unfortunate but those firs two years are crucial in learning the pro game and the incompetent coaching and teaching he received under Gase just ruined him. It's now too late.
He does make poor decisions under pressure. Unfortunately he has gone from one team with a horrible offensive line, to another. The panthers look to have improved the o line this year.. but remains to be seen how much better.
As a panther fan with random thoughts and no context, Sam could go sit behind Tom Brady till he call it quits🤷🏾♂️
If you can’t beat the eagles and get blown out by the Daniel Jones giants at this point in your career, I think your time is up. In hindsight it’s crazy that we didn’t decide to go for one of the high caliber rookie qbs at eighth overall. Only way he can save his career is if he becomes more dual threat because he is actually a pretty good runner
If Christian McCaffrey can stay healthy that will help.250 rush att add in some screens and swing passes should take some of the pressure off Darnold.
CMac hasn’t been healthy for some time now
He's a usc qb
I like Sam as a guy from what I see but if you had not gone to USC he probably wouldn't have even gotten drafted or maybe 7th round kind of thing and he certainly wouldn't have been a starter right away and he probably would have gotten cut eventually if you ever even really made a roster. might sound crazy considering he's a starter but he is just not good enough for the NFL at this time and hasn't been at any time really yet. I still kind of rude for him cuz he seems cool but I'm not a Panthers fan and I can only support him for so long LOL.
What went wrong? The same thing that's gone wrong for decades. They spend more money on rookie quarterbacks than 75% of the rest of the team. The pressures of that, the media, the social media losers and QBs either hold their head above water or drown. If they had done this sht back in the 70s, Terry Bradshaw would have been out of the league in less than 5 years instead of leading his team to 4 Super Bowl trophies. It's why quarterbacks in the modern NFL mostly suck. Horrible management of personnel.
I don’t know how they do it but I’m convinced the Jets find a way to ruin every QB they draft. If Brady was drafted by the Jets he would have never gotten a win and been out of the NFL about 15 years ago
If you know you're going to mute any curse words, why even do a take with them? Seems more mature and professional to omit them entirely.
He was good. Joe Brady’s offense didn’t work with the little talent they had. CMC did not play. I feel bad for him Baker Mayfield is not better
In the end, potential is just imagination by the scouts.
Take a look at Freedy Adu. He has the potential. But we all know where that ended up.
I’m not saying Sam is bad big time. But coming out early from college doesn’t help his progression and game instincts.
You can’t repair that unless you have playing time. He can’t go back to college to get game time… so his only hope is by playing in NFL.
But, if he plays bad. No coaches will give him too much time. Everyone jobs is in jeopardy.
All these expert, media guy, and everyone keep saying “his ceiling is higher”. True. But it aint your job in the line.
Your opinion changes especially when your job is affected.
You mean, what went right. Sam is our QB1.
I just think that he is not a good QB. This year as our starter will tell for sure because the oline is much improved, the offensive scheme has changed and is more experienced. So no more excuses for Sam! Ball out or Get out!
We should have drafted fields....
In another word, jimmyG 2.0
He made bad decisions under pressure, but he also made bad decisions while protected. He cant read defenses. He has talent, and as a Panthers fan, I bought into the hype based on his talent. It only equates to making excuses for him.
People mistook boring and uncharacteristic for grown can’t get players to by into the team and makes inexcusable mistakes
Sam was a turnover machine in college. From day one it felt like he wasn’t going to translate to the NFL.
That's what I was saying idk what people saw in this guy even I said he should not be a first rounder from the first few college games I watched .the guy was a slightly more athletic Jay Cutler
Jets failed him like they've failed mostly every QB in their history. If they drafted Mahomes or Lamar Jackson both would probably be in the same situation as Darnold is right now. Maybe he will never be anything special but guaranteed if he was drafted by a better franchise they atleast would've built a better team around him at the start and he could've been decent to good at this point of his career.
I have no hope in Sam Darnold at all, please lets move on!!!!
What went wrong is he got drafted.
You simply wanna dismiss as nothing 3 years with the Jets….
Now the question is: what can Shanahan do with him?
I have no faith in him as a niners fan. And watching him with my dad (a panthers fan) has left me questioning wtf they’re thinking. They let Jimmy G walk for this.
@@Yellow_Flannel I get that. But Jimmy was a blindside sack away from an early retirement. That, and he lost his mobility after he tore his ACL. Thankfully, BCB doesn't have that problem.
now the question is, what can o'connell do with him?
He's in my eyes a less conservative Carson Wentz
Bad o-line and Injuries
Panthers going to the super bowl
I think so too. I got that strange feeling. Watch
And I have the Brooklyn Bridge in Arizona I'm willing to sell you.
Lebron is greatest of his Era. Bad supporting cast and they missed the playoffs. It takes a team in team sports no matter how good one player is.
Still makes millions
All NFL QBs "make millions".
Just watching his eyes dart around in interviews he comes off so, so unconfident. Can’t imagine that quality helps when it comes to football
Sam is the type to stay quiet when they need a leader. Ppl already know Corral has way more fight in him and hasn't played 1 game. Let Corral take over and get the experience. I'm over Sam starting even tho he seems like a great person. I def take Sam as Panthers back-up qb anyday.
I am a Carolina Panthers fan Sam Darold act like he is scared we could of have been a playoff team but he just act like he is scared
He is a UCLA quarterback no good ones (explesy troy Ackman) plunk was good no love name another
USC
Good ole boys want to give him every excuse and not hold him to any standards 🤣 he sucked so back they had bring back scam Newton 🤣
Rookie mistakes in year 5, Panthers can have him
He’s not good. As a fan of the Jets, I knew this. Why was everyone else blaming the Jets? Lol