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    Part One: How The Dilbert Guy Lost His Mind | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
    Robert sits down with cartoonist Randy Milholland to discuss Scott Adams and the secret of his madness.
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Komentáře • 870

  • @thequai6056
    @thequai6056 Před 10 měsíci +1112

    Okay, so, did anyone consider the irony of not winning a *drawing* contest, and then getting a *camera* as a runner-up prize? That's ice cold.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 10 měsíci +11

      I think if they were good enough to be considered to be looked at more, fair, why not reward eing good enough tostill come far enough. Good motivation to keep going i guess. The trunner up prices seem topromisind ones to throw them a bone. Through art tools might have been a better idea
      Just his reaction is bad, not a " too bad, i keep working on it, at least i got there" no its about beating odds "

    • @ryanjohnson9526
      @ryanjohnson9526 Před 10 měsíci +93

      ​@@marocat4749how drunk were you commenting this?

    • @joecassidy2887
      @joecassidy2887 Před 10 měsíci +30

      Have to get reference images somehows

    • @BaronVonQuiply
      @BaronVonQuiply Před 10 měsíci +43

      That's in the ballpark of classic Simpsons joke, I like it.

    • @BigSmiley0TV
      @BigSmiley0TV Před 10 měsíci +43

      😅 had completely missed the significance of the camera, but bet as a kid, the message I could've easily gleamed from that, would've been that they think my drawing skills are so bad I should take up photography

  • @trooper9249
    @trooper9249 Před 10 měsíci +555

    It's truly insane that Adams as a kid decided to give up on Christianity because he thought that the story of Jonah and the whale was too unbelievable, only to then turn around and decide that he must be the product of aliens impregnating his mom as part of some kind of experiment.

    • @DoveAlexa
      @DoveAlexa Před 10 měsíci +62

      'Jesus ain't real cause I AM THE JESUS'

    • @kayaszakacs4521
      @kayaszakacs4521 Před 9 měsíci

      Especially because the story of Jonah and the Whale isn't even that unbelievable as far as Bible stories go (there was a guy in 2021 I think who was swallowed by a whale and spat up alive, and supposedly a whaler back in the 1700s or 1800s was eaten by his prey and carved out of its stomach by his crewmates, but I haven't been able to find very many sources for that particular story). It's ridiculous, sure, but it's not completely fantastical, just highly, highly unlikely.

    • @elbruces
      @elbruces Před 9 měsíci +14

      But have you seen his mom?

    • @paxhumana2015
      @paxhumana2015 Před 9 měsíci

      @@DoveAlexa , et al, troll elsewhere, or learn why it is a bad idea to start a fight here...your call.

    • @mikes8193
      @mikes8193 Před 9 měsíci +20

      wild how hostile folk get over sky daddy.

  • @tjbarke6086
    @tjbarke6086 Před 10 měsíci +202

    Man, Scott really does have a terminal case of Main Character Syndrome.

    • @jcspoon573
      @jcspoon573 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Clearly the genius responsible for Watterson, Breathed, and Larson retiring.
      Uh ... wait ...

  • @Mr_Waffle.
    @Mr_Waffle. Před 10 měsíci +562

    I loved his comics when I was younger, I was definitely one of those people who assumed he was ribbing capitalism. I was shocked when I heard what he's actually like. This was a great listen!

    • @BehindTheBastards
      @BehindTheBastards  Před 10 měsíci +52

      Thank you for listening to the pod!

    • @alexcarter8807
      @alexcarter8807 Před 10 měsíci +61

      I started reading Dilbert in like, 92, or 93. I thought it was a cool strip for a long time and hadn't an inkling of his racism. I mean, he had Asok, a character I liked. And the lady engineer was shown as being smarter than most of the guys - not Dilbert of course, but most of them. I miss Ratbert, he was cute.

    • @leonavis
      @leonavis Před 10 měsíci +31

      I read his books, I loved his comics, it was always funny.
      Yet knowing his books gave some hints on the way he thinks. A lot of magical thinking (especially in Dilbert Future), oversimplification and "I'm not a scientist, just a dumb-ass comic writer, BUT" talk.
      Seeing him going this way was like listening to rap music in my youth, thinking they didn't mean it and were just joking. Finding out they were oftentimes not was somewhat troubeling, too. ;-)
      Edit. Then again, recalling his books back then, it could have gone either way. Because even if he did already believe a lot of nonsense and bullshit, he was always critical of those thoughts and didn't fully embrace them, always leaving room for "could be, could not be" thoughts. So judging from his state of mind back then, he could also have become a critical, open spirit that just likes to question the reality around him and is able to see things with a critical distance.
      The way he's gone, becoming this mad Trump-supporter that kept praising his genius - that's when I turned away from it and stopped reading his website - I did not see that coming.

    • @Regdren
      @Regdren Před 10 měsíci +22

      After looking at some of his proposed solutions in one of his earlier books, I get the impression that he wasn't ribbing capitalism itself so much as saying it could be executed a lot better. He seems to believe that capitalism run "correctly" is amazing.

    • @kyosokutai
      @kyosokutai Před 9 měsíci +36

      @@Regdren And he'd be correct, a well regulated capitalistic system can do amazing things. It is what got us into space. - Issue is that capitalism also erodes those regulations over time and corrupts the system to perpetuate itself at the expense of everything else. Like what you can see basicly.. everywhere.

  • @guidosarducci209
    @guidosarducci209 Před 10 měsíci +113

    It seems obvious to me that the key element of Adams' "Alien Experiment Theory" was denial of any connection to his father.

    • @i_am_a_fancy_cat
      @i_am_a_fancy_cat Před 10 měsíci +38

      Totally. One of his "Coffee with Scott" shows (sometime around summer 2020) he mentioned that the stupidest person he'd ever met in his life was his father, and that it was okay for him to say so since his father was dead...

    • @mutate34
      @mutate34 Před 4 měsíci +6

      @@i_am_a_fancy_cat he also says in his "Loserthink" book that he has trauma from some bad childhood events that he won't talk about.

  • @unduloid
    @unduloid Před 10 měsíci +380

    Dilbert resonated with the IT crowd, especially by pointing out the strained relationship between workers and their often massively deluded managers.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 10 měsíci +9

      I mean, good crowd and channeling his frustrations thre is good, but i think i like the hobby cartoonist that did get fired for his past, and then released hiswork there sketches XD
      But as target audience, good one. He just could have been not ..

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Před 10 měsíci +65

      It did, but it's also conservative in a key way: That strained relationship is presented as simply the natural order. The engineers are at the bottom of the social hierarchy, management are overpaid and isolated, the company bureaucracy is impenetrable. This is the way of things, and must be accepted as it is. Occasional petty acts of rebellion may be achievable, but changing the status quo is simply unthinkable.

    • @arcadeinvader8086
      @arcadeinvader8086 Před 10 měsíci +73

      @@vylbird8014 I was initially surprised when I heard that adams was hard conservative because I remembered his strip often felt anti-authority or anti-establishment, but upon reflection it was more about how "Everyone else is either stupid or evil and I'm the only one who's reasonable and intelligent". It wasn't just his boss, I think pretty much every single character other than Dilbert himself was evil or incompetent or unreasonable in some way

    • @bfdidc6604
      @bfdidc6604 Před 10 měsíci +18

      You either die a hero or live long enough to be a dyspeptic crank.

    • @Studeb
      @Studeb Před 10 měsíci +26

      @@arcadeinvader8086 I think you're trying to make sense of things in retrospect, but I don't agree with the things said here. For a start, a comic strip can't have a revolution where the rightful people take control over production, that would be the end of the comic. Secondly Dilbert was rarely the smartest guy in the room, Dogbert was. Even most other guests were smarter, they were baffled at the incompetence of the boss, but Dilbert realized that he no longer gets surprised, like most office workers he gave up long ago.
      The truth is that the comic was mostly leftist in its message and that most likely Adams simply changed when he got enormously wealthy from it.

  • @blindey
    @blindey Před 9 měsíci +13

    All these little points are like: "What if Survivorship Bias was a person?"

  • @susanaltman5134
    @susanaltman5134 Před 10 měsíci +207

    Scott Adams has the prime weakness that lead to conspiratorial thinking: believing that he is smarter than everyone else therefore only he knows how the world works. I used to work in IT and I enjoyed Dilbert .

    • @gregutz4284
      @gregutz4284 Před 10 měsíci

      Are you not smarter than everyone else with this post?

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 Před 10 měsíci +21

      It is indeed the core behind such a mindset, which is also why it’s almost impossible to talk them out of the conspiracy (because they’ve already convinced themselves that they’re the smartest/everyone else is dumb, so why should they listen to what anyone else says?)

    • @michaelmoore7975
      @michaelmoore7975 Před 10 měsíci +15

      I call those types of people _auto-felatilists._

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Před 10 měsíci +14

      That’s what happens when you grow up in a very small town, and are the Valedictorian of your class of 30-some students, lol.

    • @FrogsForBreakfast
      @FrogsForBreakfast Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@yellowblanka6058I had a lot of very smart friends growing up (including the valedictorian of a class of over 1000) and although I liked the comic I never got the feeling that he was particularly smart. Smarter than average, yeah, but not smarter or more talented than some of my classmates, and there were definitely people much smarter than my classmates out there.
      Thanks, internet, for making it so dang easy to find people more skilled than we will ever be 👍

  • @donferoce5652
    @donferoce5652 Před 10 měsíci +164

    Always wondered how Sergio drew so tiny when I was a kid reading Mad magazine. Then I learned about camera work in magazine production and used a reducing lens when I was drawing a newspaper comic so I wouldn't waste time with detail that wouldn't survive reduction. Completely genuine and generous with advice and encouragement, Sergio drew for me a sketch of Groo to give my partner/editor to prevent demanding unnecessary detail. Sergio Aragones is the ultimate, he draws in seconds what takes other artists minutes, in hours what would take others days. His people and animals have expressive character and his worlds have mechanical and cultural authenticity. He often draws from reference photos and objects, unlike many artists with a habit of missing deadlines.

    • @infinitywulf
      @infinitywulf Před 10 měsíci +11

      Had the great pleasure to meet him at a convention once and was able to get to talk to him for a few minutes. It was so nice to see his genuine happiness in me telling him how much his comics meant to me growing up.

    • @aazhie
      @aazhie Před 9 měsíci +4

      Groo is such absolute genius of a comic, a character and concept

    • @Jojje94
      @Jojje94 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Aragonés is definitely the GOAT

  • @n.henzler50
    @n.henzler50 Před 10 měsíci +176

    Man, all this talk of newspaper comics is hitting all my nostalgia buttons. The Calvin & Hobbes 10th Anniversary Book was formative for me.

    • @Jaspertine
      @Jaspertine Před 10 měsíci +7

      Oh, I LOVED C&H as a kid. I recognized so much of myself in Calvin, and in a lot of unflattering ways, but that just made him so much funnier to me.

  • @SamwiseOutdoors
    @SamwiseOutdoors Před 10 měsíci +287

    Adams' "Build a Better Life by Stealing Office Supplies" was a formative read for me. By which, I mean that I adopted the title as a lifestyle. Steal office supplies, people. As a role model, I encourage you to steal office supplies.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 10 měsíci +20

      Often you dnt need to steal them,just leftver that you can take if asking.
      I like taking pens thou

    • @jamesoblivion
      @jamesoblivion Před 10 měsíci +20

      I got to the same destination via the 1987 King Missile song Take Stuff from Work.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Před 10 měsíci +30

      I've never consciously decided to steal from a workplace.
      But I've also never needed to visit an office supply store in order to purchase paper, pens, sticky notes, etc.

    • @SamwiseOutdoors
      @SamwiseOutdoors Před 10 měsíci +51

      @@sixstringedthing It's not stealing if the office supplies in question were actually purchased using the surplus value of your labor.

    • @maybemablemaples2144
      @maybemablemaples2144 Před 10 měsíci +17

      ​@@SamwiseOutdoorsSamwise you are truly living up to your name.

  • @dvpierce248
    @dvpierce248 Před 10 měsíci +296

    I read some of his early nonfiction in the late '90s and it was definitely "I'm smarter than everyone else, how sad for humanity."
    He's a strange man.

    • @carnivorebear6582
      @carnivorebear6582 Před 10 měsíci

      He's a midwit, slightly above average intelligence but not intelligent enough to know how limited his intelligence is.

    • @koss1820
      @koss1820 Před 10 měsíci +57

      Yeah, that's the vibe I got from him too. He was predicting a Trump win and I think when it actually happened he got even more high on his own supply and somehow thinks because he predicted one thing one time that means all his dumbshit conspiracy theories are all true.

    • @antediluvianatheist5262
      @antediluvianatheist5262 Před 10 měsíci +40

      Guarantee he's a libertarian.

    • @carlfishy
      @carlfishy Před 10 měsíci +43

      I bought a couple of his comic anthologies back then, and remember the author's note sections of the books evolving from "here's some funny anecdotes about drawing the strip" to "here are my deeply weird theories about society and why I (and through the transitive property, my readers) am smarter than everyone else."

    • @luiseneas
      @luiseneas Před 10 měsíci +16

      ​@@carlfishyyou are describing The Dilbert Future to a T

  • @mikehavok1859
    @mikehavok1859 Před 10 měsíci +110

    Yes, Calvin & Hobbes is still definitely the best! Being out of print for almost 30 years changes nothing.

    • @SuperMrHiggins
      @SuperMrHiggins Před 9 měsíci +4

      Agreed.

    • @aazhie
      @aazhie Před 9 měsíci +9

      Calvin and Hobbes and Bloom County affected me deeply. The art of C&H is still so gorgeous and wonderful!! :3

    • @himoffthequakeroatbox4320
      @himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Partial to a bit of Far Side.

    • @mattball2462
      @mattball2462 Před 9 měsíci +4

      I had the immense pleasure of getting to read through the entire collection (the official 4-book full collection) with my young sons twice because they wanted to read it every night. I loved it at 10 years old. I might love it even more at 43 years old.

    • @dodojesus4529
      @dodojesus4529 Před 8 měsíci

      Its a good thing my dad bought three hardback issues of c&h. Still great

  • @thebabyhumanist1964
    @thebabyhumanist1964 Před 10 měsíci +83

    ... which reminds me that Robert should do a "Bastards" episode on Rhonda Byrne and/or whoever was responsible for making the Law of Attraction/"The Secret" mainstream. It's so much worse than just silly pseudoscience. It ultimately blames the victim for ANY circumstance (even a child who gets sexually assaulted, or a town that gets destroyed by a hurricane) for somehow choosing to manifest this reality. It discourages medical treatments by promoting the idea that one can choose health (look into the case of "Oprah" viewer Kim Tinkham). It's actually more toxic than fundamentalist Christianity, which is saying a lot. I can't believe that practitioners are unaware that people have literally died as a result of these magical belief systems.

    • @francisnopantses1108
      @francisnopantses1108 Před 10 měsíci

      There's also that Abraham woman on CZcams who claims she invented the secret, and Teal Swan, who runs an online cult and suicide baited her followers.

    • @MySerpentine
      @MySerpentine Před 10 měsíci +9

      I dunno, fundies are about the nadir of religious lunacy. At least the whole 'believing hard enough will fix things' bit has the advantage of the placebo effect behind it.

    • @verdancyhime
      @verdancyhime Před 9 měsíci +9

      Yes. This ideology is still really commonly perpetuated online today and holy crap does it mess you up if you have clinical depression. Bright sided by Barbara Erin rich is a really good book about it that helped me a lot

    • @Trivial_Whim
      @Trivial_Whim Před 8 měsíci

      Look, I’m sorry about thinking Catrina into existence, okay? I just thought New Orleans was kind of unsafe compared to the Netherlands and what would happen if a storm system hit it head on.
      Besides, the televangelists probably did the heavy lifting with all their praying for the city to be destroyed!
      You can’t just go around blaming the people that read The Secret when fake priests on tv literally bragged about how their god was responsible and it was because they prayed hard enough!
      …which, come to think of it, is basically using the lessons of it enmass.
      Wait, is The Secret just a deity-less religion? Like nulltheism or something instead of monotheism/polytheism?

    • @shinyskunk
      @shinyskunk Před 5 měsíci +2

      I agree that I would love to hear Robert cover The Secret, altho if you want a quick podcast fix, If Books Could Kill has a great episode on it.

  • @chrisblake4198
    @chrisblake4198 Před 10 měsíci +131

    Thank you for this. At about 50min in when you started explaining Scott's embrace of Affirmations, it finally clicked for me why he was so enamored of Trump. I knew for years Trump worshipped Norman Vincent Peale and the Power of Positive Thinking, so learning how Scott came to the same kind of thinking made the connection. Trump is so locked in, he has a pathological inability to admit anything he did/thought/said was wrong or that he bears any direct responsibility for bad results of actions he initiated. It's why he keeps subordinates around him at all times, so he has someone to blame.

    • @Stray7
      @Stray7 Před 10 měsíci +16

      I remember reading the bits about affirmations in one of his books (read loooong ago) I tried it out. The results were...eh. But connecting them to Trump...that makes all the sense in the world now.

    • @thebabyhumanist1964
      @thebabyhumanist1964 Před 10 měsíci

      The Law of Attraction ultimately blames the victim for ANY circumstance (even a child who gets sexually assaulted, or a town that gets destroyed by a hurricane) for somehow choosing to manifest this reality. It's toxic stuff and it makes perfect sense that narcissists are attracted to it.

    • @gregutz4284
      @gregutz4284 Před 10 měsíci

      You know nothing

    • @nakfoor1846
      @nakfoor1846 Před 10 měsíci

      It is creepy that being delusional and loving Trump is so intertwined. I think its because delusional minds seek eachother out.

    • @jm6406
      @jm6406 Před 10 měsíci +12

      @@gregutz4284 give it up already buddy you've forfeit your life to a willful lunacy and walk the fool to your end

  • @idontwantahandlethough
    @idontwantahandlethough Před 10 měsíci +79

    @41:40 I think that's the key: Scott Adams doesn't talk _to_ people, he talks *AT* them, and thus hasn't changed or grown as a person in many decades.
    My dad used to be a lot like him, it's exhausting. My Dad's name is Scott too, actually. Whenever a normal person meets someone like that for the first time, they often think "oh wow, your dad is really cool/interesting/fun!", but that's only because they haven't been around him for longer than a couple hours. If they did, they'd know that what they just experienced? Yeah, that's all there is to him. There's nothing deeper. You can say anything you want to him, and it might _seem_ like he's listening.. but he's not. He's thinking of a "response" to whatever you're about to say.. except by "response" I really mean "a continuation of the thing they were talking about previously, as if you literally hadn't said anything at all.."
    FWIW, Scott could change if he wanted to. My dad changed, and he's the most stubborn dude I've ever met!
    On the topic.. have you guys ever met a chill Scott? Because I'm beginning to suspect they're all raging assholes. I knew cool guy who I _thought_ was named Scott, but it turns out it was his middle name and his real name was Tim so idk 🤷‍♂

    • @allanalogmusicat78rpm
      @allanalogmusicat78rpm Před 10 měsíci +11

      I did know a couple of very chill Scotts. Nice guys.

    • @idontwantahandlethough
      @idontwantahandlethough Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@allanalogmusicat78rpm Well that's good to hear, thanks for letting me know lol

    • @cyrneco
      @cyrneco Před 10 měsíci +3

      Have a friend like that. In his case at least it was a serious case of self centered personality. Not selfish though, which is puzzling. But being around him for more than a couple of hours is indeed hard work. Maybe a mild form of autism?
      The only Scott I've known was this Australian lad that was as chill as they come.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Can relate?! And yes he is still frustrating but did change. Also stubbern. I apreciate he did change, , dont expect to people become what you want but they grow.
      alsop glad your dad did change, yeah people can at least to a degree change, if they are willing t listen to good advice and pressure to, do, yeah. nop one is lost if they ar willing to engage with their problems reflective even omewhat.

    • @francisnopantses1108
      @francisnopantses1108 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@cyrnecoIt's apparently a symptom of ADHD.

  • @rdfears
    @rdfears Před 10 měsíci +123

    I had the exact opposite experience with weather. I grew up in Arizona, saw my dad get skin cancer, saw my sister nearly die from heat exposure, and had a family dog die because it ate food that had ants in it and the ants bit the dog to death from the inside. Then we escaped to Minnesota and I vowed to never travel south again. East, west, or north, but never south.

    • @Reverend_Salem
      @Reverend_Salem Před 9 měsíci +19

      all of those instances are awful and my heart goes out to you and your family.
      the last one is terrifying, because i didnt know that you (or at least a pet) could die from eating ants, and the ants biting you from the inside.

    • @wuxin5847
      @wuxin5847 Před 9 měsíci +5

      i live nyc all my life i am 65 years old and i would never leave

    • @actinopterygiis
      @actinopterygiis Před 9 měsíci +14

      ants biting a dog to death from the inside sounds like something straight from a horror movie. jesus christ.

    • @rdfears
      @rdfears Před 9 měsíci +13

      @@Reverend_Salem It was technically just speculation on our part. We came home after some errand to find the dog lying motionless on the ground next to its food bowl, with ants crawling into/out of both the bowl and the dog's mouth. The ants in Phoenix aren't like the ones you find in the north. They're absolutely vicious and will actively attack large creatures if their nest is disturbed in any way.
      One of the habits I was taught that I still haven't kicked is knocking my shoes against the ground before putting them on. That was mainly for the scorpions and black widows that infested that horrid state, but it also helped prevent ant bites.

    • @rdfears
      @rdfears Před 9 měsíci +15

      @@actinopterygiis Want more? How about the fact that you couldn't go swimming between the hours of 11 and 2, because you *would* get a sunburn, regardless of prep. Or my younger sister almost being run over in the parking lot by an old person driving too fast who proceeded to cuss us out. Or the "knocking the shoes" story in the post above. How about the giant black crickets that infested every house.
      When we were finally taking that final trip out of that hell-hole, I remember being confused as to why my older sister (12 at the time) was crying. She was already missing her friends. I was just glad to be out of there with the promise of never having to go back.
      Literally the only thing I miss from my time there was the orange trees we had growing out back of our second house. Fresh oranges are amazing. But then I discovered hydroponics and I now have two oranges growing on my very own indoor orange tree. So fuck Arizona and the entire South.
      (And yes, most of that was completely unrelated to your comment. I just felt like ranting more. :))

  • @origami_dream
    @origami_dream Před 8 měsíci +5

    I shaved my head and donated my long hair as a kid, and my mom sent a picture in to the local paper. They printed it. It was not a big city but definitely a lot bigger than Scott's town. The idea of that being a "taste of fame" is hilarious. Wow, the acclaim i got from some random feature no one remembers, *intoxicating.* If that's part of your origin story, my guy, you sad.

  • @rcndg
    @rcndg Před 10 měsíci +198

    i promise you a dude who ends up a racist weirdo saying something to the effect of "beating the long odds started to seem easy" as a kid is extremely sinister, like the DNA of "why can't they just bootstrap their way out of the hood" forming

    • @xenn4985
      @xenn4985 Před 10 měsíci +9

      Okay but many have bootstrapped their way out of the hood, so whats the excuse for the ones who dont?

    • @gregutz4284
      @gregutz4284 Před 10 měsíci +5

      He's not racist. Lol

    • @TheGLaDOSvideoCore
      @TheGLaDOSvideoCore Před 10 měsíci

      ​​​​@@xenn4985bruh you types say shit like "Of Course Our Lives Should Be Easy, Whites Are God's Chosen" and expect us to think you're a hard working rational critical thinker when it comes to the wellness of black families
      just say the quiet part out loud. you want slaves because you think royalty is your birthright. stop being cowards

    • @bradhombre6912
      @bradhombre6912 Před 10 měsíci +56

      @@xenn4985 Okay, many people have won the lottery, so what's the excuse for the ones who don't? Hard work should be encouraged. Success is possible, but not guaranteed. Barriers can sometimes be overcome, but why should we just accept that society/history has placed additional unnecessary barriers in front of some people? Why shouldn't we as a society endeavor to reduce artificial obstacles to success for all people? Wouldn't all of society benefit if we weren't constantly sabotaging a subset of the population?

    • @bradhombre6912
      @bradhombre6912 Před 10 měsíci +23

      @@gregutz4284 He's extremely narcissistic and entitled which has some overlap with bigoted thinking.

  • @brushdogart
    @brushdogart Před 10 měsíci +56

    As a child I thought Adams was self inserting as Dillbert...now I realize that he was at best the Pointy Haired Boss and more likely Dogbert.

    • @andrewmclaughlin2701
      @andrewmclaughlin2701 Před 9 měsíci

      Scott Adams went to college with the sole intent to commit suicide due to unbearable physical pain. He arrives at college and is introduced to pot which cures his unbearable physical pain. Suicide averted. If you must hate something, hate pot.

    • @JJ-of7ms
      @JJ-of7ms Před 9 měsíci +4

      aka "Dildog" 😂

    • @jopearson6321
      @jopearson6321 Před 6 měsíci +6

      I always though Dogbert was the character that felt closest to an authorial or self-insert voice. And even as a teen this made me feel sad and uncomfortable because Dogbert was an unscrupulous amoral meglomaniac for whom everything always just kinda worked out.

  • @chesthoIe
    @chesthoIe Před 10 měsíci +27

    Oingo Boingo is unironically my favorite band. Their farewell concert is freaking amazing. They finally figured out how to play together, just for them to break up.

    • @actinopterygiis
      @actinopterygiis Před 9 měsíci +2

      from 2020 to 2021 oingo boingo was almost all that i listened to. love their farewell concert album. wish i was there.

    • @humanbeing2420
      @humanbeing2420 Před 2 měsíci

      Tried to get into them but I find the sound of the 80's studio production of their records too grating. Plus Danny Elfman's a sex pest.

  • @DeadSpatula
    @DeadSpatula Před 10 měsíci +21

    To the affirmations discussion, If you say ‘i’m gonna write a book’ every morning, and that helps you write a book, great.
    The secret type people are like ‘i’ll write that i’m gonna write a novel everyday, and the novel will spontaneously come into existence.’

  • @Robert-hz9bj
    @Robert-hz9bj Před 10 měsíci +193

    I was kind of into Dilbert when I was younger. My mom was an engineer for many years, and in the early days (before Scott began to get really obviously problematic) she greatly empathized with the cubicle dwellers' struggle with the pointy haired boss. And since she passed her interest in science and engineering down to me, I also found them pretty amusing. However, even in the early days, I noticed some vaguely right-wing stuff that kind of weirded me out. There were more than a few strips where Adams complained about the social mores of feminism (i.e., that tiresome right-wing 90's schtick about women wanting equality until the cheque comes at dinner, portraying women's support groups as supposedly being groups of crazy women complaining about how everything men do is a conspiracy to undermine them as people, etc.) that made me wonder if there was something unpleasant going on under the hood of this whole enterprise. Turns out, it was even worse than I suspected...

    • @Macrochenia
      @Macrochenia Před 10 měsíci +27

      I remember reading a lot of Dilbert when I was younger. I didn't notice too much of the right-wing stuff because I was raised in a conservative family but I did catch things like how Alice went from originally being smarter and harder-working than any of her male coworkers to simply being angry and violent. Then some time during the W administration, Scott wrote an editorial supporting Intelligent Design and at that point I lost all respect for him.

    • @worldcomicsreview354
      @worldcomicsreview354 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I need to re-read some Dilbert, obviously. I used to love it when I was on the left.

    • @TryingToDoBetter01
      @TryingToDoBetter01 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@worldcomicsreview354when you were on the left? So you’re now on the right? What led to this change?

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@TryingToDoBetter01I’m going to guess he got some money either via inheritance or a reasonably successful small business, and either doesn’t want to pay as much taxes or doesn’t want to have to pay his employees fairly and provide health insurance etc. - that or he’s scared of the “woke” boogeyman.

    • @TryingToDoBetter01
      @TryingToDoBetter01 Před 10 měsíci +24

      @@yellowblanka6058 yeah, I’m middle aged now, with masters degree, making six figures, but refusing to turn my back on others less fortunate. Most of the other middle aged white guys I know that make six figures or there shouts and no college, but a successful small business of some sort, they like to say something like “your heartless if your not liberal when twenty and stupid if your not conservative after forty”. I argue with them that you’re heartless and stupid if you are conservative because the whole ideology is based on lies. America was strongest post WWII, when the marginal tax rate on the wealthy was in the 70-94% range, and we had strong social safety nets, but rampant racism. The conservatives of today remember how good it was then, but think it was good because of segregation and white superiority, not fiscal and monetary policy. Many of them proudly don’t read any books, let along studied academically. The whole thing is built on lies.

  • @RamadaArtist
    @RamadaArtist Před 9 měsíci +7

    "I do in fact own Popeye. I am destroying him, according to everyone Breitbart"
    I mean, in my 36 years on this planet, I've never had any reason to read Popeye before, but this is about the best recommendation I could get.

  • @SaintJoi
    @SaintJoi Před 10 měsíci +44

    I grew up reading my dad's classic MADs. Got to meet Sergio Arragones at Comic-Con a few years ago. Fangirled like crazy. He was very nice.

    • @DestroyYouAlot
      @DestroyYouAlot Před 10 měsíci +4

      MAD was super important for my getting into art and drawing, just as much as the superhero comics I was reading at the time (and the art was generally leaps and bounds better in MAD).

    • @SaintJoi
      @SaintJoi Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@DestroyYouAlot it really warped my humor. I mean that as praise.

    • @alexcarter8807
      @alexcarter8807 Před 10 měsíci +2

      It's so sad comic-cons seem to be dying. I met Vaughn Bode's surviving relatives, and the guy who draws "Bob The Angry Flower". I penciled a strip overnight and gave it to him the next day, "Bob The Happy Well-Adjusted Flower". Trust me, it was funny. I never heard back from him.

  • @sonyakinsey4376
    @sonyakinsey4376 Před 10 měsíci +58

    I also won art contests as a child. I even won second place at the Calgary Stampede western art contest in the rural youth category. My take from this was that my hard work paid off, not that I had rigged the universe in my favour.

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr Před 10 měsíci +5

      Yes! Usually, my takeaway in these situations was that my hard work had either paid off or that I was good at the thing I had succeeded at. It would've never occurred to me to then try to find an "angle" or "game the system," and I only looked for shortcuts with things I really hated, like math.

    • @andrewgrant6516
      @andrewgrant6516 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I came 13th nationally in a art competition. Won a hundred pounds of book tokens for the school library, and a ren pound book token for myself. I never let it go to my head, because I knew it was even the best art in my class let alone in the nation. It's just to be considered for a prize you had to send in tokens for like 40 tubes of Colgate, and Mum went out and bought a ten year supply. I got a brief blush of attention out of it, my mum was proud, the English teacher was thrilled with the funding, but the world kept turning. I was still an unlovable nerd. The world had always been pay to win.

    • @kaitlynnp582
      @kaitlynnp582 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I had a drawing published in the paper when I was a second grader. My takeaway was to not understand what the adults making the paper had wanted, because I just drew a picture like I usually would have. My parents were proud and it was cool to see it on newsprint. But I didn't assume I had some kind of golden ticket to success because of it.

    • @sonyakinsey4376
      @sonyakinsey4376 Před 10 měsíci +2

      When I won in the drawing contest, I got 500 bucks, and tickets for my whole family to the Stampede. There was an opening party for the art pavilion with free food. For a farm family of 6 people, this was really nice. The Calgary Stampede is really expensive so yeah, the money was cool, but I was really happy that I could do that for my family.

  • @cargo_vroom9729
    @cargo_vroom9729 Před 10 měsíci +24

    Young Scott dismisses Bible stories as absurd. Fair enough.
    Young Scott believes his mother was impregnated by aliens. Wut. Now hold on a minute...

  • @hinaruto43ver
    @hinaruto43ver Před 10 měsíci +93

    What if his managers really did tell him he was denied the promotion for diversity reasons, but they lied to him? Like what if he was terrible to work with and they just said "we need an excuse to deny him this promotion so that he doesn't become antagonistic towards me." And they just realized, "Oh, he's racist, we can just say it was the minorities and it won't be our problem anymore."

    • @bradhombre6912
      @bradhombre6912 Před 10 měsíci +41

      The author of Dilbert should know that whatever excuse your boss gives you for why you didn't get a promotion is probably BS.

    • @verdancyhime
      @verdancyhime Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@bradhombre6912this is the one

    • @diomio-ri2vo
      @diomio-ri2vo Před 9 měsíci +2

      lol big fack comment.

  • @drakynlp1022
    @drakynlp1022 Před 9 měsíci +8

    56:35 another problem with Scott claiming he didn't get promoted at the banks because he was a generic white man is this comes after he's admitted he was bad at anything his first job asked him to do, and just before he brags about spending his time at his second job coming up with tricks to get away with not working .
    And all of this, of course, is after we've learned he has a view of reality where he needs to master One Weird Trick to glitch the universe into giving him stuff. So maybe that gives him some credibility problems.

  • @unistrut
    @unistrut Před 10 měsíci +10

    ... you did the little captions on the pictures in Cracked? I still laugh at the one from the article about stars simply captioned "A helium atom that really has no idea what it's in for."

  • @GeneralPublic
    @GeneralPublic Před 10 měsíci +224

    As someone on the autism spectrum... holy shit, his childhood was so much like mine, and I had similar weird delusions of grandeur and was also a valedictorian with really bizarre beliefs. Everything about him just screams autism to me. I was so much like him growing up, I really dodged a bullet not ending up like him. I had literally the same exact thing happen of becoming an atheist but delusionally thinking that I was the only atheist in the world and thinking everyone else was dumber than me. I was into computer programming instead of art but still, I was so much like him growing up, just, holy shit, I was also on that weird villain arc at first.
    Unlike him, I ended up left-wing instead of right-wing. I also reacted differently to him to realizing I had weird delusions. Instead of just embracing delusions and having even more of them and thinking that they're an equally valid way of looking at reality, I was kinda like, no. Delusions are bullshit, they are wrong, they are false, I need to root them out of my crazy-ass mind and stop being such a kook, try to find my way to sanity. Like I used to genuinely believe I was the only sentient person on Earth and everyone else was a biological automaton, a so-called "philosophical zombie" who couldn't actually experience real emotions and... yeah, glad I didn't believe that for too long, that could have led to some really villainous stuff.
    Another difference is he ended up making lots of money and I didn't, so naturally, my class interests align with fellow low-income people like myself, while he originally aligned himself with libertarians and then fascists, going down that famous libertarian-to-fascist pipeline just like Alex Jones, Elon Musk, and so many others. I instead went down the lib-to-leftist pipeline and am very glad I did because I learned so much, and leftist critiques are such a great way of accurately explaining the real world around us and why things happen the way they do.
    Anyway I'm just super glad I didn't end up like Scott Adams the Dilbert guy, who is very clearly autistic. I can just tell from his story and what I have seen, everything about him. I recognize my own type, I know the diagnostic criteria. His thinking is rigid and inflexible yet unorthodox and he doesn't conform to social norms, he doesn't understand other people, he takes everything literally, he has strange obsessions, he tries to be extremely logical but gets basic things wrong, he has a tendency to arrive at delusional conclusions through his unorthodox thinking, he feels misunderstood by society and struggles with basic human interactions... all symptoms of autism I share too, 100%. I'm so lucky I didn't end up like him or like the other rich autistic bastards who really piss me off, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and a bunch of others, who also share all those tendencies. Elon Musk clearly the worst of them right now.
    I actually used to like the Dilbert cartoon and thought it was an anti-capitalist comic strip that parodied the idiocies of corporate culture, incompetent bosses, and self-important libertarian tech bros who think they know everything. It kinda hit me hard when I looked at Scott Adams's website for the first time, years ago, and found out he was actually one of those self-important libertarian tech bros who think they know everything, and that he was actually advocating the dumb bullshit he actually believes in his comic rather than parodying how dumb it sounds. Him getting on the libertarian-to-fascist pipeline since then has really been fascinating to watch because of how he keeps posting through it and goes into such detail about his batshit crazy theories.
    A couple times I thought maybe I could talk some sense into him by commenting constructive criticism on his blog because it seemed like maybe there were some faint glimmers of sanity in his writings and maybe some way I could reach him and talk him out of believing his own bullshit. I used to be a lot like him when I was a teenager so I kinda felt bad for him since I could tell his delusional beliefs were actually making him quite miserable, and they were also making him spread terribly wrong political ideas to, admittedly a niche audience. Like on Twitter, people would constantly note his bullshit and make fun of him and he would just block them and he would even name search anyone who said anything bad about him and block them. He can't handle any criticism of his delusions because deep down he knows they are wrong but is too afraid to admit it. I know what that's like from experience.
    I eventually mostly lost interest in him after it was clear he was beyond saving, but I really appreciate this wonderful 2-part series on this weird kook Scott Adams, the Dilbert guy, who I have also been fascinated with for years, ever since I found out he wasn't actually poking fun at libertarian tech bro dipshits but was literally just saying dumb nonsense he actually believed, with the humor in his comic strips mostly unintentional, a self-parody. Most comics with jokes in them are deliberately written that way, an unintentional self-parody comic strip only happens when a total lunatic writes a comic. Basically just Scott Adams, Ben Garrison cartoons, and of course Chick tracts by Jack Chick. OK so there are several people who make insane right-wing comics that are unintentionally hilarious, but I legit thought he was doing a parody of weird capitalist kooks from an anti-capitalist perspective until I found out he was a weird kook himself.

    • @Thebrianweissman
      @Thebrianweissman Před 10 měsíci +31

      Pretty fascinating stuff! Thank you for all the time you spent writing this up for people to enjoy 😃

    • @drtaverner
      @drtaverner Před 10 měsíci +27

      As a kid of the 70s/80s later diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, Scott's childhood sounds very familiar. I even had a personal mythology that I was a consciousness from Charon inplanted in my zygote.
      Like you, I too was overly influenced by compassion vs hatred. I shudder to imagine what my brain would have done if brought up in a Southern Baptist paradigm.

    • @GeneralPublic
      @GeneralPublic Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@drtaverner Yeah in my case, I temporarily thought that the only good explanation for my consciousness and why I thought I had it but nobody else did was that I was secretly God incarnate but had used my powers to incarnate myself as a human. I thought I had temporarily given up my omnipotent powers to live a human life and experience it firsthand to get a better understanding of the humans that I, as God, had created and ruled over. In this temporary lifetime, according to my theory, I still had my original personality as God intact but had abandoned my powers as well as most of my omniscient knowledge. But I had made sure to make myself highly intelligent, the most intelligent person on Earth, with an unlimited brain capacity, and I would gradually learn more over time and figure out all the things I used to know when I was omniscient, eventually figuring out how to get all my omnipotent powers back.
      During the brief time I believed this theory, I thought my academic success and everyone I know always telling me I was the smartest person they knew and possibly the smartest in the world, which people often said to me when I was a kid around that age, it kinda got to my head and fed my ego and made me think I was literally God incarnate. I was also bullied a lot and I thought that this was the same type of suffering that my son Jesus had gone through in the past, and that it wad necessary for me, God, to go thru the same trials and tribulations that Jesus went through so I could better relate to humanity instead of just seeing them as inferior beings who often end up in hell instead of heaven for minor offenses, so I could reform my own system to be more humane if it turned out that would be best, but I needed to experience human cruelty and suffering firsthand as well as the good aspects of human nature to analyze whether other people deserved to go to hell or whether I should let everyone into heaven. I also wanted to figure out if humans had free will and could think for themselves or if they were just basically biological robots whose behavior was predetermined, entirely governed by cause and effect, without the ability to make their own decisions. Since if they were just biological automatons with no free will, they wouldn’t be morally culpable for their actions, and I would be the one at fault for creating them that way.
      My belief system gradually fell apart when I started finding more and more contradictions and inconsistencies with it and ways it didn’t really seem to match my observed reality well. It just became more and more obvious that the type of God I imagined myself to be didn’t make any logical sense at all and that if I were really God and really omniscient, I wouldn’t actually need to experience life as a human because I would already know everything, and I wouldn’t need to solve these mysteries of whether other people have free will or not because I would already know everything. And the whole idea of sending people to hell forever seemed wrong to me, especially if they had no control over their actions, so I was kinda confused. I figured, the only way hell makes any sense is if other people’s suffering isn’t real, because that way they wouldn’t actually be suffering in hell, it would only appear like that. I knew my own suffering was real, though, from personal experience, because it definitely felt real!

    • @drtaverner
      @drtaverner Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@GeneralPublic Yeah, everyone being impressed with our intelligence seems like we're special until we discover that intellect is not an achievement any more than our height or skin-tone. Somehow we don't get credit for anything we _do_ accomplish because, of course we can do x or y, look how tall, smart, whatever we are. Hell, we _should_ be doing even better, cooler things or our brains are a _waste._ At least, that's how I felt. My interests didn't matter, I should be performing some kind of miracles.
      For a while around, 10 or 12 I actually thought I was a reincarnated Arthur Pendragon come to save the world. There was the Reincarnation of Aleister Crowley period which I thankfully got over.
      It's just our brains trying to understand why we're _different._ We need these elaborate backstories until someone explains that it's _really_ because of our distant Yeti heratige. 😏 Or autism. Often it turns out to be some form of autism.
      Our concepts of God change as well until we discover the truth that JHVH-1 is a space alien who still threatens this planet.
      It's a long journey to get there though. Praise "Bob" and his questionably holy name.

    • @XaurianQueen
      @XaurianQueen Před 10 měsíci +9

      I don't have autism so I'm glad someone who does also listened to the childhood section like "huh..."

  • @anjetto1
    @anjetto1 Před 10 měsíci +6

    American Christianity is something I find terrifying. I say this as a Roman catholic

  • @Sinyao
    @Sinyao Před 9 měsíci +3

    You were the editor who did the article picture captions during Cracked's golden era? I loved those!

  • @fusionspace175
    @fusionspace175 Před 10 měsíci +14

    You don't understand, when that robot bear misprounounced Scott's name it was clearly a sign from godbert.

  • @raycearcher5794
    @raycearcher5794 Před 10 měsíci +27

    Between Scott and Chris-Chan I'm starting to think that winning stuff as a kid just ruins you forever.

    • @kaitlynnp582
      @kaitlynnp582 Před 10 měsíci +7

      I mean. I won things as a kid and I'm nobody, so there's that.

    • @DoveAlexa
      @DoveAlexa Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@kaitlynnp582 I second this

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Really? You think winning stuff ruined Chris-chan and not the over a decades worth of gangstalking and harassment of a mentally ill person?

  • @tedweird
    @tedweird Před 9 měsíci +4

    'If you have a choice between reading Scott's book or doing drugs, DO DRUGS'

  • @LeftyPem
    @LeftyPem Před 10 měsíci +28

    Listening to this episode made me think of Doug Tennapel, creator of Earthworm Jim. Also a bigot and homophobe who’s work is forced to stand apart from its creator. Not on this level but still fairly significant to 90s kids.

    • @tbotalpha8133
      @tbotalpha8133 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Oof, I was not aware of this.

    • @JimmyDaKoik
      @JimmyDaKoik Před 7 měsíci +2

      Welp, that just ruined my fond memories of Earthworm Jim

  • @erikc.2462
    @erikc.2462 Před 10 měsíci +9

    The Mad Magazine artist they're talking about who just died was Al Jaffee.

  • @malkavcandy
    @malkavcandy Před 9 měsíci +4

    "the downside to encouraging people is that some of them might be scott adams" lmao

  • @prof_parahelix2390
    @prof_parahelix2390 Před 10 měsíci +20

    Now I can say that this episode about the Dilbert guy is more therapeutic for my religious trauma growing up than I expected, and that's a fun and unexpected sorta collection of words to say

  • @jinxed7915
    @jinxed7915 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Goddamn, hearing about "Dildog" made me laugh harder than i have in a long time

  • @BCThunderthud
    @BCThunderthud Před 10 měsíci +56

    Back in the 80s someone would put out a list every year of the highest-paid entertainers and Charles Schulz was always in the top 10, usually top 5, like between Michael Jackson and Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's the context for Adams saying it was a career that paid well. I don't think any brand but Disney had as much merch as Peanuts until we entered the current dystopian world of entertainment IP.

    • @cyrneco
      @cyrneco Před 10 měsíci +7

      Great respect and admiration for Watterson for never going that way. He made plenty money (more than deserved) but refused to do merch. Great fella.

    • @chrisblake4198
      @chrisblake4198 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Peanuts started it, but I think it was the Garfield craze and what it did for Jim Davis that led to the last great Renaissance for newspaper comics. Adams should have just been proud of his chance to ride that train for a while and retired, but I'm sure he's convinced himself he was responsible for things far better creators did.

  • @OldGamerScott
    @OldGamerScott Před 10 měsíci +8

    “Kind of had a lifelong license to print infinite money and decided to give that up to get really angry…”
    Scott Adam’s / Notch double feature?

    • @andrewmclaughlin2701
      @andrewmclaughlin2701 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Legacy media is losing money. Dilbert retires from the shrinking profits available in syndicated cartooning. Dilbert lives on through subscription service and is no longer forced to stay within the confines of what the syndicate permits. lol

  • @spillanegottleib1681
    @spillanegottleib1681 Před 9 měsíci +17

    After Dilbert Adams revealed himself to the world, I rather wanted to uncover when his descent began.
    The only problem was, he was never even close to important enough to me to bother actually doing the research.
    This excellent series fulfills that wish of mine without requiring me to even lift a finger, and for this I most heartily thank you.
    It turns out he never descended, he just kept skating in parallel until he felt it was the right moment to make an official and historic fool of himself.

  • @carter358
    @carter358 Před 10 měsíci +77

    You might be interested to know that there's a book called "You Got Nothing Comin'" by a guy named Jimmy Lerner. Jimmy was a co-worker of Scott Adams They were both cubical drones at AT&t at the same time. Learner went on a bender after a rough divorce and ended up killing a guy in the Las Vegas hotel. The book is about how a nerdy little office dork survived a Nevada prison. It's one of the best books you'll ever read.

    • @AgentXaos
      @AgentXaos Před 10 měsíci +19

      @@missingsig Tbf it's a well reviewed book but yeah looking at the backstory it does seem like he just tortured a little guy to death while he was on a bender and only ended up doing like 2 years in jail for it.

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@missingsig Ah, the Frank Dux school of writing autobiographies.

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@AgentXaoshe did 12 years total, still got off easy for murder though.

    • @Modern_Robot
      @Modern_Robot Před 9 měsíci +6

      A shame it's heavily embellished, the guy he killed was a 5'4" former medical equipment salesman who may not have been armed.

    • @user-lc1te3rq2t
      @user-lc1te3rq2t Před 4 měsíci

      congratulations on financially supporting a murderer. no thanks

  • @leelindsay5618
    @leelindsay5618 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Interesting how a kid who grew up with a one person income household with the house, stay at home mom, and all on a government salary, and he somehow becomes conservative, which in the current world, the conservatives believe that government workers who aren't making enough that 2 average government salaries can't afford a home and conservatives want to privatize the post office. The post office used to be a wonderful place that took care of small towns across the country with communication that was affordable, banking options, and even travel for kids back in the day.

  • @synthetic240
    @synthetic240 Před 10 měsíci +6

    When you were talking about his taking up affirmations and the Power of Positive Thinking... it reminded me of that California incel gunman, the son of a movie director. The kid definitely thought he was entitled to things. Multiple times he'd spent tens of thousands on lotto tickets and hype himself up into a frenzy about how he was sure to win because of Positive Thinking and affirmations. Then it would all crash down when he didn't. It's like, we need to stop presenting this as some kind of magic spell; it's just a tool to help you focus; but I also get the feeling that a lot of predators use it as a tool for the manipulation of gullible rubes.

    • @andrewmclaughlin2701
      @andrewmclaughlin2701 Před 9 měsíci

      I have not met very many successful people that used the power of negative thinking. Maybe the occasional retired government director but never a person from the private sector.

    • @press_x_tojason
      @press_x_tojason Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@andrewmclaughlin2701You comment on every thread, and it’s all completely vapid BS. It feels like you run people’s comments through an AI conversation bot, then use that as an AI prompt for a response.

  • @FTZPLTC
    @FTZPLTC Před 10 měsíci +38

    Does this mean Graham Linehan also meets the threshold for bastardy?

    • @nodtothestrange1008
      @nodtothestrange1008 Před 10 měsíci +10

      Guy completely pointlessly ruined his own life 😂

    • @andrewgrant6516
      @andrewgrant6516 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Down with that sort of thing!

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@nodtothestrange1008 Dude speedran ruining his own life, tbh.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@andrewgrant6516 - I HEAR YOU'RE A TRANSPHOBE NOW, GRAHAM.

  • @chasjetty8729
    @chasjetty8729 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I guess when you spend your childhood reading Dilbert with rose tinted glasses all the red flags just look like flags.

  • @Hrothmeir
    @Hrothmeir Před 10 měsíci +5

    The Dilbert series finale literally has Dilbert impregnated with an alien.

  • @1000huzzahs
    @1000huzzahs Před 9 měsíci +3

    Scott Adams is like... textbook Mediocre White Man Mediocres Up. He never had to face any real barriers in his life, not even when he was a kid. And it made him believe he was so much more important and powerful than he is.

    • @petebondurant58
      @petebondurant58 Před 2 měsíci

      Well, he's more important and powerful than you are.

  • @mdgprogrammer
    @mdgprogrammer Před 10 měsíci +9

    As someone dealing with the Texas summer right now, I really felt that sentiment.

  • @flimsyfishyyt
    @flimsyfishyyt Před 10 měsíci +11

    I want to live in the alternate universe where Dogbert's character was the original name.

  • @fluffskunk
    @fluffskunk Před 9 měsíci +5

    Jack Cassidy: 23 years special forces, cartoonist, bass player for Jefferson Airplane? What can't this guy do?!

  • @SeanLaMontagne
    @SeanLaMontagne Před 9 měsíci +5

    One of the worst side effects of being raised in a very strict Christian house, is how easy it is to believe in magic, conspiracies, and fantasy.

  • @CliffordtheOrangeCat
    @CliffordtheOrangeCat Před 10 měsíci +53

    My father had almost all the Pogo books. The parody of the John Birch Society was called "The Jack Acid Society", formed by Deacon and Molester Mole. (The former had a tendency to speak in Gothic font.) I also vividly remember one of the books poking fun at Khruschev and Castro (as pig and goat respectively).

    • @bfdidc6604
      @bfdidc6604 Před 10 měsíci +3

      I miss Pogo.

    • @francisnopantses1108
      @francisnopantses1108 Před 10 měsíci +2

      He also criticized the military industrial complex and his they used fear of nuclear war to lead people astray.

    • @galleryofrogues
      @galleryofrogues Před 10 měsíci +2

      My dad loved Pogo too, and had a bunch of the books. He would read them to me as a kid.

    • @jackprier7727
      @jackprier7727 Před 10 měsíci +1

      MY dad had all of em, too. The very best of the best of the best in its depth of observational humor-

    • @CliffordtheOrangeCat
      @CliffordtheOrangeCat Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jackprier7727 Nowadays most people have never heard of Walt Kelly or Pogo. His work ranked with the best of any comics artist. Maybe its topicality caused it to seem more dated than it should, but his swipes at the John Birch Society feel tragically relevant nowadays.

  • @JuntaYuy
    @JuntaYuy Před 9 měsíci +3

    Got in a twitter argument with Adams before, dudes unhinged

  • @matthollywood8060
    @matthollywood8060 Před 9 měsíci +9

    What a pleasant surprise. I thought the title looked like it might be fun to listen to at work, and then you introduced your guest, absolute legend Randy Milholland. Subscribed.

  • @NarfoOnTheNet
    @NarfoOnTheNet Před 9 měsíci +7

    I'm only 40 - 45 mins in, and everything I've heard describes someone who developed a strong sense of self-importance real early in life that wasn't really challenged for a while, and when it finally was, everything after that was an effort to regain and maintain that self-importance.
    That's my two cents, anyway.

    • @andrewmclaughlin2701
      @andrewmclaughlin2701 Před 9 měsíci

      Suicidal throughout teens secondary to extreme pain...goes to university with sole intent to commit suicide due to pain being unbearable...introduced to pot and the pain dissipates...he went through hell at a young age and pot made him achieve a life of wealth

  • @Empyre18
    @Empyre18 Před 9 měsíci +5

    It is really noteworthy how often these anecdotes recount events of Scott’s life which cause me to think “yeah, buddy, I’ve been there, it happens to a lot of us, that’s life,” only to describe him as going on to think those events were Grand Revelations of Cosmic Truth Which Make Him The Specialist Boy Ever. Almost comical degrees of self-importance with this guy.

  • @MEAxSonic
    @MEAxSonic Před 10 měsíci +45

    He comes across as a narcissist. Revelations about general humanity are treated as paradigm shifting breakthroughs for Scott.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 10 měsíci +8

      I mean it sounds a bit like on the autism spectrum how enstranged he seems from understanding humans, but honestl, really more grew up in a really weird cult vibes. And he eems too functional despite him being weird so more weird cult upbringing estraangement.orign.
      in any case 100 narsicist.

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr Před 10 měsíci +11

      @@marocat4749 , I had a similar thought when they told the alien pregnancy story---but, I know a ton of deeply-empathetic autistic people who care about other's feelings and well-being, so his issues can't be blamed on autism alone!
      He absolutely has a powerful narcissistic streak; no debate there. He seems to see everything and everybody as existing for his benefit and personal use.

    • @andrewmclaughlin2701
      @andrewmclaughlin2701 Před 9 měsíci

      @@dinosaysrawr lmfao

  • @Lungfish851
    @Lungfish851 Před 10 měsíci +3

    The cereal box contest was his sonic sweepstakes moment.

  • @gjussaume
    @gjussaume Před 10 měsíci +38

    As a retired Navy guy, I loved your navy references, and yes, the Navy dropped the ball. Not sure I'd liken it to Pearl Harbor though. But I did snort loudly at that one.

    • @willmills-cz4er
      @willmills-cz4er Před 10 měsíci +23

      1. Pearl Harbor
      2. USS Vincennes shooting down civilian plane
      3. USS Iowa Turret explosion
      4. USS Cole bombing
      5. Not destroying Scott Adams

    • @Senthiuz
      @Senthiuz Před 10 měsíci +8

      ​@@willmills-cz4er
      6. The mark 14 torpedo
      7. Not replacing 'Anchors Away' with 'In The Navy'

    • @MeeesterBond17
      @MeeesterBond17 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@Senthiuz 8. Banning the short film "Launch 'Em!" by the crew of the USS Hancock in 1956.

  • @M00NSIDIAN
    @M00NSIDIAN Před 10 měsíci +23

    y'know, nowadays the first thing I think about re: Scott Adams is how he wrote in "Seven Years of Highly Defective People" (one of his comic compilations where he helpfully annotates some of his "best" "work" so you can discover what, er, deep thoughts went into the comics) about how he got a bunch of flack from people when he introduced the character Tina because she was too stereotypical (I think the assertion was "she acted like the stereotypical angry feminist" which iirc the point was that she WAS and he was daring people to get mad), and instead of pausing, considering if maybe he screwed up somewhere, he did the sort of thing that only a person who's MASSIVELY butthurt (or specifically trying to rub people's faces in how much he's offended them and how much he thinks that's rad) would do and created the very short-lived character "Antina," who he said was designed as being the exact opposite of Tina. He recounts getting flack afterward for her being a stereotypical portrayal of lesbians or something. look my memory is not good but I remember the basics of the story and that it was a real shithead thing to do that ends up seeming minor on the shithead scale compared to everything else about the guy in more recent years
    The second thing I think about is the Dilberito and I think I need to bump that one up to number one so at least I can laugh a little more often.

  • @ralalbatross
    @ralalbatross Před 10 měsíci +22

    The comment about how the book could change your perceptions indicates he wasn't as open minded by his shrooms as he likes to think.
    Also, the idea that Donald Trump can win an argument in a room full of people who aren't actively being paid to let him win is comical. He got a reputation for being litigious not clever.

  • @chibbyranjo
    @chibbyranjo Před 10 měsíci +4

    His focus on making a career while still a child kind of gives off a Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation’s “job in a mill at 9 years old” vibe. There’s a very capitalist mindset being developed. There’s a few kinds of entrepreneurial people. There’s the standard ones who try many different things, most of which fail but they find some success that allows them to make a living. There’s then those that never get that traction and fail. There’s those lucky ones that strike gold at the first ask and never have to worry again. And then there’s the failures that can’t fathom why they failed and find someone to blame. Adams doesn’t seem to fall directly into one category here though. He seems like the one who worked hard enough to eventually make it, but I get the impression he thought he was one of the luckiest ones who reach mega-stardom. His failure to fulfil this destiny, to reach the popular conscious like Peanuts did, it’s turned him into the kind of person that can’t understand why he hasn’t achieved all of his ambitions and then finds some conspiracy against him that results in becoming a right-wing loon. Delusions of grandeur in a child. Absolutely wild.

  • @sapphoculloden5215
    @sapphoculloden5215 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I won a radio station's giant Christmas stocking once.
    My enduring memory was that I was forced by my mum to share the sword in a scabbard with my cousin (I was pirate mad and wanted the whole thing) so that he got the scabbard and I got the sword, or the other way around.
    What didn't happen was that I became convinced I could always beat long odds.

    • @andrewgrant6516
      @andrewgrant6516 Před 10 měsíci +2

      You may be able to beat the long odds, but you'll never beat mum logic.

  • @paulpinecone2464
    @paulpinecone2464 Před 10 měsíci +13

    Oh thank you! I have always wanted to know WTF with Adams, but was damned if I was going to put any effort into researching it.

  • @Flixartist
    @Flixartist Před 10 měsíci +6

    One thing is for sure. Scott Adams is no Gary Larson.

  • @Satyxes
    @Satyxes Před 10 měsíci +2

    "What is the Navy going to do ? I'm on land !"
    The Seabees would like a word, sir.

  • @drtaverner
    @drtaverner Před 10 měsíci +4

    It's scary to see how people _become_ radicalized.

  • @willhennessy864
    @willhennessy864 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The irony of all these Dilbert M-preg jokes is that the finale of the Dilbert TV show ended with Dilbert pregnant and giving birth to a (partially) alien baby. So, there is Dilbert M-preg art, and it was produced by Scott Adams.

  • @jonathanbush6197
    @jonathanbush6197 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Years ago, I was watching Paula Poundstone (on my computer screen) with a studio audience, and someone who looked very much like Scott Adams spoke up from that audience. I don't recall what he said, but I remember it sounded rude. The audience gasped, then Paula raised her hand and said "I'll handle this!" My aversion to conflict kicked in and I changed the channel. So maybe someone could follow up on all my deep research.

    • @plainmarienc
      @plainmarienc Před 3 měsíci

      Now I want to know what Paula said.

  • @xavierbreath2227
    @xavierbreath2227 Před 10 měsíci +13

    Oh No! What will the black community do without that bastion of support from the Dilbert guy? Oh the humanity!

  • @function0077
    @function0077 Před měsícem +1

    I am a civil engineer that worked for a large consulting firm for about a decade. I bought a Dilbert desk calendar every year because those comics mocked the corporate system, of which I was a cog, and because it was an easy Christmas gift for my wife. I was unaware for many years that Scott Adams was a lunatic. I will never give Scott Adams another cent.

  • @Name-ot3xw
    @Name-ot3xw Před 7 měsíci +2

    There was an episode of Dilbert where Dogbert was scamming NASA by painting pretty star pictures. Back in the day I just thought it was a funny joke, now I just want to ask Scott if he believes that telescopes exist.

  • @function0077
    @function0077 Před měsícem +2

    Jesus H. Christ, I shuddered when he said, "Texas comes for us all."

  • @SliceOfDog
    @SliceOfDog Před 10 měsíci +38

    "Why the hell would someone write an entire book critiquing Scott Adams, that's such a silly thing to do. Anyway, this concludes the first in our series of 1 and a 1/2 hour podcast episodes critiquing Scott Adams."
    But seriously, interesting discussion. I'm a casual Dilbert fan and one of the people who was confused by Adams turning out to be a crazy racist Trump supporter, since I'd have placed him as a soft lefty with maybe libertarian leanings. But I've not read Dilbert strips in nearly a decade and presumed maybe he'd just been warped with time. So this was a fascinating insight into the clues that have been there all along.
    Also I still think the cartoon was pretty good. Although in retrospect I guess the recurring joke of that generic Soviet-bloc mud country was kinda racist...

    • @jayo1212
      @jayo1212 Před 9 měsíci

      I also am a casual fan of Dilbert, and I enjoyed the show as well. I didn't think he went crazy, but yeah, his remarks were low, even for him...

  • @kevint.8553
    @kevint.8553 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Sergio was a super nice guy to meet.

  • @DamianLoved
    @DamianLoved Před 10 měsíci +9

    47:45 - That quote from the Dibert guy's shitty book, "How to Win Bigly", is breathtaking in its conceit. I mean, God damn.

    • @andrewmclaughlin2701
      @andrewmclaughlin2701 Před 9 měsíci

      Genius is seen as conceit by the dull observer.

    • @press_x_tojason
      @press_x_tojason Před 5 měsíci

      @@andrewmclaughlin2701And vice versa, as with your interpretation in this case.

  • @mewthicus
    @mewthicus Před 9 měsíci +3

    Interesting thing, when I was a sad, scared and lonely teenager (so... Like 20 years ago, blrrrgh) I wrote fan emails to both Scott *and* Randy. Oddly enough, I got a reply from both. Scott's reply was a quick impersonal line of text, while Randy responded with a heartfelt response that really did me a lot of good... aaaand may or may not have prevented me from attempting poorly thought out murder on my abusive stepfather.
    So... Yeah 😅 Something Positive and Choo Choo Bear have always held a very special place in my heart through the years.

  • @paulpinecone2464
    @paulpinecone2464 Před 10 měsíci +10

    I have never ever ever heard a story that went in a good direction after somebody mentioned NLP.

    • @verdancyhime
      @verdancyhime Před 9 měsíci

      I do NLP in a fetish context as a phone sex operator and that's actually pretty fun and chill.

    • @paulpinecone2464
      @paulpinecone2464 Před 9 měsíci

      @@verdancyhime This I have to agree with. The feeling that you are being captivated and manipulated is bewitching. The more you deny it...
      There are a lot of hypnosis fetish channels that are like this. People LOVE to be overpowered, made helpless. However I still can't work out to what degree all of it is just roleplay vs. actual surrender.
      The thing specific to NLP is that it has some people buying into it as a rigorous scientific discipline.

  • @DestroyYouAlot
    @DestroyYouAlot Před 10 měsíci +15

    Salvia Erik's hard-hitting commentary on this issue is key to understanding Scott's spiral into insanity and annoyingness

    • @adricklynn8882
      @adricklynn8882 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Nice to see a fellow etiquettere!

    • @suzbone
      @suzbone Před 10 měsíci

      Gay frogs all the way down!

  • @guidosarducci209
    @guidosarducci209 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Incidentally, Unitarianism isn't a Christian denomination.

  • @bishophicks5202
    @bishophicks5202 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Adams not being able to deal with the Norman Solomon criticism and get over it reminds me of Trump never getting over being referred to as a "short fingered vulgarian" in a magazine in the late 80's. Trump would occasionally send the guy pictures of himself with his hands circled writing, "Not so short" on the page. For DECADES. It is a sure sign that the authors hit on something that both Adams and Trump are insecure about and blabbed it to the whole world.

  • @fishdude666ify
    @fishdude666ify Před 10 měsíci +7

    I was three quarters through #2 When i saw this. When Bill Watterson retired, but before my local newspaper picked up Pearl's Before Swine, Dilbert was my favorite strip. I was sad when I learned that he joined Aaron Lewis et al as a trumper. I wondered at the time why Stephen Pastis was making fun of him in Pearl's.

  • @kyousouka
    @kyousouka Před 10 měsíci +11

    Regarding the bit about atheism not being able to "predict the future", I wonder if he misunderstood the idea that scientific theories should make predictions, and mistakenly believed that if atheism is "scientific", it should be able to make predictions in the same way that e.g. general relativity does.

  • @michellejirak9945
    @michellejirak9945 Před 8 měsíci +2

    "Very mind altering drug, anxiety." Yep, this is truth. So much truth. I don't need to take shrooms to feel paranoid, that's my perpetual state of being.

  • @loca8048
    @loca8048 Před 9 měsíci +3

    58:40 - Classic external locus of control - "what could they do so this wouldn't happen" vs "what could I do so this wouldn't happen" (internal locus of control). Narcissists always have external locus of control - it's always somebody else's fault. Always.

  • @FlameDarkfire
    @FlameDarkfire Před 9 měsíci +4

    Scott definitely comes off as autistic, believing he is the main character and thinking all these revelations he has, whether mundane or insane, makes him exceptional. The incident with his mother reads really odd, like I wouldn't expect her to give in as easily as he's portraying it, especially for 1960's small town America, so that also indicates this wasn't the first time he presented a pseudo-intellectual argument, so she might have gave in to avoid the bitchfit. All this screams of a person who doesn't understand other people have their own objective experiences, leading to his feelings of superiority, which were then crushed like the Old Master in the Woods. I find a lot of people who went far right believed in exceptionalism only to have reality rudely challenge that notion, but instead of changing their beliefs, decided that Reality was wrong.
    Also I just wanna say, reading Cracked as a young man, your captions for the pictures often made the articles for me. Nothing against the writers, they were amazing, but your captions would often SEND me.

  • @hpalpha7323
    @hpalpha7323 Před 10 měsíci +4

    the 1999 Dilbert animated series was surprisingly good

  • @Paul_Wetor
    @Paul_Wetor Před 10 měsíci +9

    I love the old Dilbert cartoons. At first my co-workers would wonder if he secretly worked in our IT office, because he seemed to point out situations we experienced (the guy who got promoted because he was tall). He once had a postcard saying, "If I work really really hard, I can make my boss rich." So he seemed like a grunt in the trenches like us. But I wonder if his attitude changed once he became rich.

    • @JymDyer
      @JymDyer Před 9 měsíci

      @Paul_Wetor - The old Dilbert cartoons were good because he was getting tons of email from people sharing their real-life work absurdities. None of these people were ever credited or paid, and when that stuff dried up the comic strip went downhill.

  • @direcircumstances
    @direcircumstances Před 10 měsíci +30

    What a pleasant surprise this video was! I had never heard of this podcast before, and I unfortunately have steered clear of a lot of podcasts hosted by men in the past few years because a lot of really bad guys are making podcasts these days, but I'm glad I gave you a shot. You're talking about some really interesting stuff, and your morals/personality/worldview are a breath of fresh air compared to what I have been conditioned to expect.

    • @carlrs15
      @carlrs15 Před 10 měsíci

      huh?

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty Před 10 měsíci +19

      @@carlrs15 Lots of anti-SJW podcasts by edgy manlets who make a certain "I take my dad's wedding tux to court" onion boy look strong and tough in comparison, this person got surprised this isn't another "let's complain about woke" channel.

    • @direcircumstances
      @direcircumstances Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@neoqwerty Yeah! What you said!

    • @gretchenbaker7435
      @gretchenbaker7435 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Definitely this is a great podcast. Robert Evans is a very interesting person who thinks critically with a sense of humor.

    • @cjc813
      @cjc813 Před 10 měsíci

      Avoiding most podcasts hosted by men because of the alt right dip shits?
      Lol, ok.

  • @jazzanarchy1342
    @jazzanarchy1342 Před 8 měsíci +1

    “I know art school didn’t work out for you, but have you tried public speaking?”

  • @safetinspector2
    @safetinspector2 Před 10 měsíci +6

    As a tech worker in the nineties I honestly thought Dilbert was hilarious. He ran out of relatable material around the same time he started apparently going insane. I missed the warning signs as well….

  • @butters796
    @butters796 Před 9 měsíci +2

    50:13 I think what you're describing is that weird "speaking things into existence" thing. That's where you do the "say this specific thing while focusing and it'll happen".
    I think the whole affirmations thing is retraining how you think about yourself by speaking kindly to yourself. So hearing yourself say out loud things like "I am pretty, I am smart, I am loved" kinda helps combat anxiety/intrusive thoughts and rewires your brain out of self hate. It isn't a magic cure, but like in addition to medication and therapy, it can help ease some self hatred to tell yourself you like yourself. (Even if you start off lying to yourself when you say it, saying it enough can help you feel it).
    Edit: i should probably disclaimer that i haven't tried the affirmations thing. I've just heard it described that way, and i think it's like a real therapy type deal, not crystal healing manifestating things into the universe.

  • @RoseDelta
    @RoseDelta Před 10 měsíci +3

    This is my first intro to behind the bastards. It appeared randomly in my feed, and its been a fun listen while mindlessly farming shit.

  • @slaugmromni6743
    @slaugmromni6743 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Re: Scott becoming an atheist. The strange thing is not that he didn’t know there were other atheists. Rather, it’s the thought process (unsurprising given who we know Scott became) according to which he’s so special, so brilliant, that he must’ve been the first and only person to discover that biblical stories are absurd.

  • @benwoodhead4059
    @benwoodhead4059 Před 10 měsíci +24

    I have loved Something Positive for years, so excited to hear Randy on a podcast! I also read all the Scott Adams books when I was younger, but I missed all the warning signs... when he went full racist it threw me hard. Then again, I am so used to celebrities coming out with a dark side that I cherish the ones who actually seem regular

  • @function0077
    @function0077 Před měsícem +1

    Honestly, as an engineer (with BS & MS degrees), one of the most useful classes I took in high school was a typing class. I can type accurately and fast without looking at the keyboard, which is an important skill if your job is to be a desk jockey.