Bosnia and Herzegovina: 1 Country, 3 Presidents? - VisualPolitik EN
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Bosnia and Herzegovina is one of the most curious countries in the world. Etched in everyone's memory is the war that ravaged the country 30 years ago. An internal conflict between Bosniaks, Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats that resulted in an inefficient administration in which power is divided by ethnic quotas. So the question is: Have things improved in Bosnia since the war? Do they have a realistic chance of joining the European Union? In this video we tell you.
The bridge is built, opening was the other day.
I saw the oppening when i was in neum the other day
First, BiH is not the only country besides Turkey with a Muslim majority, there is also Albania 70% of the population in BiH 50%, but it is the westernmost country with a majority of Muslim but Slavic European residents...
I thought Albania was majority athiest?
Most Albanian People are atheist. It's what the people believe, not what a documentary says.
You can go in like ever church or Mosque, every Sunday or Friday... There will be just a handful of people inside.
Kosovo exists
14 min. of content and that is the only thing that comes in your mind? 👏🏼👏🏼
I was also wondering
00:33 Only european country besides Turkey with muslim majority.
Albania Am I a Joke To You? 🤣🤣🤣
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Turkey is Europe?!
It's never good to see my country on a channel like this. You know it's bad news coming.
I hope I'll live long enough to see a day when we finally have sustainable deal between three ethnic groups where all parties are happy and country can move forward.
Bosnia and Herzegovina has no future, that's a fact....
Granted EU candidate status, leading to a cooperation agreement signed between the presidency. ✌
We had that it was called Yugoslavia
Another misleading video by Visual Politics.
Constitution of B&H is a sesefire agreement (Dayton agreament) thats why its so dangerous to change it. + nobody except those who signed it aren't authorised to make any changes. Nevertheless, Muslims from Sarajevo had change it under the so called "civil society act" where anyone can identify into anything. This opened possibility for Muslims to identify as Croats in order to take their vote.
Croatia and Serbia demand to respect Dayton agreement.
"Muslims" are religious confession group in the country not national and ethnic identity. And most of the changes for the constitution which I've seen were made by Western Politicians who had the position of governors or High representatives who were Christians. And pretty sure you cant identify as "Muslim" ethnicity anywhere in the globe hahahaha. As once one wise elder said to once stupidity "Sad so sad darling it's so sad" hahaha
Croatia and Serbia demanding that everyone respects the Dayton agreement is the biggest joke ever. They regularly interfere in Bosnia's internal affairs for their own political interests which destabilizes the Dayton agreement and creates even more division.
How can someone determinate who is a Croat, who is a Bosniak and who is a Serb?
@@TheDude-lr6mb No Serbs have their own Republic in Bosnia.This is betwen Croats and Bosniaks
@@serbianwarrior385 In the first article of the constitution of RS it says that Serbs, Bosniaks and Croats are constituent people of RS. So it's not just Serb republic. It's just an administrative entity whit in country of Bosnia and Herzegovina. But that nothing to do with my question.
I was wondering who can determine who is Bosniak, Serb or Croat...
There's a country with 5 president 😂😂 Somalia. Somaliland, Puntland, Jubbaland, Somalia, and Galmudug. Why not do a video on them?
In the US. We have 2 presidents which is me and Obama. Oh wait…..
The day before this video was published,
I jogged from Dubrovnik (in Croatia) and across the border into Bosnia and Herzegovina. Just straight in and back. Cool nature south of the country
Weird.....
One important thing, that also holds us back is that we are still finding mass graves from 30 years ago. (Usually soldiers in their death bed confess and tell where one or more mass graves are).
I myself, born in 92, had to burry half of my fathers former giant family, because they were found 18 years later and we are still missing 3 people (only with my last name, there are more otherwise).
This means that people can't really get over the war, since you are constantly reminded of it.
Bosnia chose war to break up from Yugoslavia is very painful. Mongtenegro is more smart
@@ThienHoang-tr3dh No we didn't, we didn't even had guns or anything really. Most people here were thinking that their neighboors, whom they grew up with side by side won't hurt them, which mostly turned out to be wrong.
It's actually also a big reason of friction, since people here won't trust each other anymore at all.
@@dastil7904 Your country chose war because 40% of your people are Serbs who did not want Bosnia breaking up from Yugoslavia but Bosinaks still chose it.
@@ThienHoang-tr3dh Yep we did and since the country was going actually nowhere since the death of tito, it is understandable. What isn't understandable, that they wiped out entire villages here in my place (civilians, women, children, babies, everyone!). I don't know if you understand what a genocide is, so I won't be to harsh to you, but please stop it. You don't know shit.
@@ThienHoang-tr3dh No, we chose peace. Serbs attacked us. It's that simple. Now cut the bullshit
One thing is certain, Bosnia and Herzegovina will never fall apart because it has been maintained for over a thousand years despite all enemies. What's more, the EU will fall apart sooner than Bosnia.
if you asked Serbs and Croats they whod like to split peacfully from bosnia and herzegovina and go there own way except bosnians dont want to cuz they want it all for themselfs so its 2/3 in favor of peacefully leaveing by diplomatic ways whitch can be achived if asked help from eu or some other netrual country to mediete and whoala no more conflict . so i gess we just need to convince bosnians to vote yes so they can have there own country and make it 3/3
2/3 how ? Based on their latest polls 11% of population are Croats around 30% are Serbs and over 53% are Bosniaks. Make referendum in country and let them decide :D right
You cant count like that
How about population number?
"peaceful partition" no one would let the Serbs "win" their republic after the brutality they unleased for it.
You can
@@josipradica5284 do you think the 10% of srpska population who are bosniak Muslim will want to be annexed into Serbia?
What is the sister channel
Currently watching this video on my trip in Sarajevo
It is simple. The election law is unconstitutional. It allows bosniaks to elect croatian representative.
But this is all irrelevant at the end. BiH needs a Dayton II with more reasonable administration size, teritorial division and less ethnic tensions.
If anything it shows that other ethnic groups are willing to vote for whoever croat or serb as long as hes willing to help them out of the shit that nationalist politicians put them in... for each vote Komsic got a Bosniak politition Lost and btw i think you are reading the constitution wrong it doesnt say One Croat president elected by Croats one Bosniak politition elected by Bosniaks it says One Croat Politition and One Bosniak politition elected from the federation and one Serb politition elected from Republika Srpska
@@Untrus The reason you have three presidents is so each ethnic group can have it's own legitimate representative. That's it. That's obvious to anyone with a healthy brain. But for political reasons you choose to read it word by word like it's the holy bible so it suits your agenda.
There is no reason the president should be a croat if croats didn't vote for him XD. Basically, bosniaks could have find any croat and vote for him. It doesn't make sense. That interpretation has huge holes and it's in obvious contradiction with the rest of the constitution. And that's why supreme (constitutional) court ruled that the election law should we changed.
@@antun88 no the reason we have 3 presidents is so that each ethnicity is represented in a branch of government because they are a constituent minority all it says is that he has to be an ethnic croat not his political affiliation it does not have in quotation "must only appeal to successionists of croat ethnicity" if a Bosniak is willing to cast his vote for a croat member and in turn lose his chance to help a Bosniak win the only thing i can say is i wish there was more of that from the other two
@@Untrus Constitution and the law are two different things. You always interpret the constitution, understand it's intent and translate into laws. This is exactly what supreme court did, and ruled that election law is unconstitutional.
There is no reason to have a croat president if it's not voted by croatians. It doesn't matter what views it has. In this case, larger ethnic group can always outvote the smaller group. Bosniaks are not risking anything, they have enough votes to elect two presidents.
Anyway, the fact that bosniaks are using this cheap trick against the croats really tells us that there should be no trust between ethnic groups and further deepens the tensions, hence keeps nationalists on both sides in power.
Hell no,Serbs wont agree with Dayton 2,that would mean war.
Weird question! If they don't do the necessary reforms, they cannot move towards EU. EU cannot change legislation and implement reforms for them. Ukraine and Moldova are much faster in reforming their countries.
Support for EU membership is at an all-time low in Bosnia, I personally never wanted us to join the EU.
Ukraine and Moldova havent fulfiled the conditions either. What's more, they have huge chunks of land not included in their governmental systems at all and are in fact ruled by Russia. The only reason they got the candidate status was to appease them, thinking they'd become member states one day, but let's not forget Turkiye who'se been a candidate country for decades and was never invited to the Union bc the EU always added new reforms for them to implement, deliberatly making the accession impossible. Ukraine and Moldova, just like Bosnia, will never become EU member states unless the US presses the EU to take them in in order to counter the Russian and Chinese influence in Europe, which have grown signifficantly in the region over the past decade of EU's reluctancy.
@@orangedark seems like you gave no knowledge about Ukraine and Moldova and no understanding about how EU works, not to mention Turkey. LOL
Ukraine and Moldova, same as Bulgaria and Romania. Not for EU, but to not go with Russia they accepted them! Bosnia is small and far from Russia, easier case!
@@orangedark That's fine, honestly at this point we have bigger things to worry about than becoming or not an EU member state.
Visual politik please can you talk about Cameroon. It's necessary the world know what is going on i Cameroon
I am glad somebody is finally adressing the issue of electoral laws but you do it in a manipulative manner. It is not a problem that the elected candidate is "moderate". The problem is that he, as a representative of Croats, should be elected by Croatian votes which isnt the case. Croats must be let to vote for their own representative in the presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Problem is cause all 3 sides elect 3 nationalist thiefs
On all 3 sides are stupid people who believe in fairytales of 3 criminals
People live in poverty and in meantime all 3 of them are millioners and they never want to be part of eu cause they would be in prison
He is not a representative of Croats. He represents all citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina and is of Croat ethnicity. At least for once in your life read the constitution before you write non-sense.
@@gfaris92 oh, the classic bosniak propagandist answer. What is the point of having a Croatian representative in the presidency if he is not going to represent the interests of Croats? Dayton peace agreement was made the way it was in order to give the legitimate representation to all the constituitive peoples of Bosnia and Herzegovina but Bosniaks are misusing the loopholes in order to elect the Croatian representative. Acting like this is something normal will only further divide the people living in Bosnia and Herzegovina and push the country in unrest.
@@mislavgrbesa4216 Can you read or can you not read your own native language? Do you know what is written in the constitution? If you do know, go ahead and write it here. What's written there?
I will tell you what the point of having a representative of Croat ethnicity in presidency is (mind you, I am using the term "representative" only because you used it, the constitution does not say "representative" but that is way above your comprehension). The point is so the 3 main ethnic groups have people of their ethnicity in the government institutions. The point is not that a political party that gets 7% of the votes and represents maybe 4% of the total population of the country gets 33% representation in government institutions with veto powers.
Also, there is no legitimate representation you blind sheep.
@@gfaris92 "He represents all citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina and is of Croat ethnicity."
The Bosnian Serbian President represent the Serbs.
The Bosniak muslim President represents the Bosnian muslims.
The Bosnian Croat President "represents all citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina " according to what you said.
It would be funny if it wasn`t so tragic.
You forgot to mention District Brcko
Dayton Accords and the Future of Diplomacy (1:09:00 video). Go to the 48th minute and you will hear what Peter Galbraith has to say about war
You really should watch your draft videos before uploading. You keep having repeated audio lines.
Brush your teeth Grant. Just do that dawg.
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When I was stationed in kosovo my driver told me some stories about the the balkan wars. Many of my Albanian and Serbian friends told me the Bosnians had it the worst. Some unspeakable atrocities that they weren't welling to tell me because that's how bad it was.
Fun fact: many Balkan people don't
mind working with other ethnicities. They just mind hanging out with each other.
they dont mind working with other ethnicities?
Yes, atrocities like burning people alive in houses, butchering one month old babies, raping little girls were done to Bosniaks. Nowadays, the vast majority of Serbs continue to celebrate those atrocities when they aren't outright denying that they happened.
What were u doing in Kosovo buddy?U come to bring some good ol' american democracy to Serbian land?Ha Jack?
@@serbianwarrior385 why so negative? I'm pretty sure that's the reason communism failed.
@@menumlor9432 with that much of homeless in us i don't even think yours better
Meanwhile Romania is still barred from joining Schengen and is a EU member since 2007. It's time like these when I understand some of my people who hates the EU
12.25 abouth coridor...that's not true, there is a border crossing where you need to show you ID on both sides! One side Klek and other Zaton Doli, do a little research
the Mocro Maffia ;)
Without passports, not id
it seems that someone is following you and you have to finish the text quickly, or it seems that it is closing and you haven't had time to order your lunch, take it easy
What bosnia needs is a referendum. I am tired of systems picked out by EU or the west, held by dirty politicians who just look out for their side. This is how discrimination and tension starts. Everybody looking out for their own people. Given the history of the country, this is no easy task as most will vote for what's best for them but look how far that got bosnia in last 25 years. No where!!! No jobs, high poverty, no health care, no education, just politicians getting richer and spreading fear. All of balkans need to unite together. It's the only way. We been fighting each other last 500 years. It's time we see each other as brothers and sisters. Balkans belongs to balkans !
Indeed. Why does it HAVE to be one country? Why can it not partition down into smaller independent states? Why does San Marino, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, and Andorra get to be independent nations, but the small areas of Bosnia do not?
If they knew how to hold a referendum and honor its results, there would be no war in the first place. People in the Balkans are not capable to govern themselves.
@@davidford3115 No, cuz change is bad and no change is bad. Only drama is good! Its preferred to feed the masses with victimhood and bullshit, while you thief your way to tycoonhood!
Referendum led to the war in 1992
@@davidford3115 because San Marino didn't ethnicly cleanse it's self from all non San Marinos...
Many times you say Bosnian instead of Bosnian Muslims. Bosnians are all people in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Hell no!There are Bosniaks,Serbs and Crosts
@@serbianwarrior385 Bosniaks are not a nation. Bosnian Muslims are. And Bosnian is a name for all people living in the region of Bosnia and Herzegovian are those living in the region of Herzegovina. They are not names for a nation.
@@snokehusk223 Ethnic groups: Bosniaks, Croats, Serbs. Religious groups: Muslims, Catholics, Orthodox. Nationality as stated in the passport: Bosnians.
@@heyyo162 What you call Bosniaks is wrong because Bosniak is a name for Croats in Bosnia and Herzegovina and not for Muslims. You can not chose to call yourself by some other people's name. They are Muslims. It is their religion and nationality. As for ethnicity they are Croats.
@@snokehusk223 You are one confused individual. So if Muslims are ethnically Croats, and Croats in Bosnia are Bosniaks, then Muslims are Bosniaks, by your logic. And what about atheist Muslims, shall we call them non-Muslim Bosnian Muslims or atheist Bosniaks?
Lebanon of Europe spotted
Three presidents? Wrong. Serbs have their president and bosnian muslims elected the other two. The Croats do not have one. That is not fair, one nationality to have two.
In this moment something is happening over there
Is your speech 1.5x faster than you recorded it?
Isn't albania another Muslim country?
Yes
I was born in SFRY B&H.
All of them need a Goli Otok Exkursion
Somalia, one country seven presidents. It would be interesting if you covered this topic as well
1 country
2 names
3 Presidents
Complete History of Bosnia and Herzegovina:
czcams.com/video/WkkPrZspDv0/video.html
hey, it's not rocket science to copy a name and paste it into google to spell it out correctly. Pelješac is not word english speaking person can not pronounce.
The only solution is territorial reorganization. 3 entities each corresponding with their respective people and it's history. In this way There is possibility of every entity making up around 1/3. Only then will peace come to Bosnia and Herzegovina. But because of power hungry politicians this is unlikely to happen.
The only solution is disbanding all internal divisions which are making the country dysfunctional
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 Realistically that isn`t going to happen as the Bosnian Serbs & Bosnian Croats do not want to have a Bosnian muslim ( who will not represent their interests) as the head of state. That is the reality of the situation.
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 The solution is making Bosnia & Herzegovina more like Belgium. Unfortunately, this is probably not going to happen but the country would at least have a chance then. If it carries on like this then who knows...
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 that is why war happened, Bosnian muslim didn't want serbs to suppressed their interest so they wanted Bosnia where they will do exactly that to serbs and croats, so serbs decided to fight even Milosevic was against continuing war but serbs in bosnia decided that they don't want to so they continued without support from Serbia
@@stefanbog2495 No, the war happened because Serbian orthodox wanted to expand their country by annexing other countries' lands and ethnically cleansing the annexed territories so everyone, naturally, fought back. Milosevic wasn't against continuing the war, it was a show for the international community where he pretended he doesn't control his proxies so that he doesn't face too much backlash.
The town of Bihac used to be Croatia's capital for a time before the Ottoman Turks captured in 1592 AD.
3 regions, 3 ethnicities, should be allowed to become 3 independent States. Let the Serbs join Serbia, the Croats join Croatia and the Bosniaks can become a Bosnia that is neither Serbian nor Croatian.
All im gonna say is me as a Bosnian consider all of Bosnia to belong to the BOSNIANS, not bosniaks or croatians or serbs
If only it were that easy
It should be right
Or you can just leave? Bosnias borders have been like this for hundreds of years, the border with the drina predates 15th century.
@@bigbadwulf5785 they don't agree on anything
I think I remember a piece about that bridge and EU regulations that say they cannot cut off other countries see access. But the funding problem during the crisis made the new bridge not high enough for fully loaded container ships to pass which was one of the problems left for Croatias EU entry. Has this been resolved? Or did they quitly let it slip under the rug?
The bridge is now 55m high (55m road to sea-surface), even the largest container ships in the adria can pass under it, but considering that the city of neum has no container harbour and that the sea in that bay is to shallow for one, it is quite unnecessary for the bridge to be that high. Also bosnia uses the croatian port of ploce for their supplies and not neum. Neum is just a tourist city at the beach abd trust me, no one living there would want a container harbour to be build in their beautiful coast city, killing all tourism
Neum isn't even suitable for a commercial harbour. Bosnia was being pricks. That is why the use Croatian ports for all their sea transport.
0:35 You are forgetting both Albania and Kosovo.
Croats defended Bosnia and earnd its freedom on the battlefield. If there were not Croats, Bosnia would not exist as we know it today.
Its a lie that Serbs and Croat wanted to devide the Bosnia. Serbs were the agressor. Bosniaks at one time turned against Croats and started the slaugter in Croatian villages. At that sams time Croatia accepted and sheltered 300 000 bosniaks refugess. Moreover, Croatians from Bosnia supported the Bosnia inddpendance from start. Croats also saved Bosniaks from the Bihac town fall that would result in one more genocid against musslims conducted by the rebeled Serbs. On top of that Croatias army liberated the Bosnia from the Serbian ocupation.
So next time prepare a bit better for the video. Learn some history.
You do know that thousands and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were very unlucky during that aggression on Bosnia,right? How would they feel if we Bosniaks did this to Serbian women and young girls?? Bosnia. 1992-1995…..
You are lying. Milosevic and Tudman sat down before the war, agreed on a partition of Bosnia among themselves and mocked Izetbegovic. They are transcripts, pictures and witnesses from the event. Then in April 1992 Serbs attacked most of eastern Bosnia and in October 1992, Croats attacked Bosniaks in Prozor-Rama. It's all documented, unfortunately for you.
Bosnia is shafted for the same reason many other nations around the world are shafted, poorly drawn borders due to horrible diplomatic agreements(no matter the reason). Simply put Yugoslavia should have been split across ethnic lines, but of course it wasn't, for many different reasons. Bosnia got the shortest end of said stick, with those of Bosnian ethnicity being a minority within their own country with Bosnian Serbs and Croats who should be part of Serbia and Croatia respectively, not Bosnia, functionally leading the country. Ethnic tensions die hard, especially with a history as bloody as that of the Balkans. A nation of mixed ethnicities like Bosnia is simply doomed to fail...
Poorly drawn borders? The current borders of Bosnia have existed since the mid 1800s. They won't be changed to appease a bunch of blood-thirsty fascists. You write and reason exactly like them. If Bosnian Serbs and Croats are unhappy in Bosnia, they can simply move to Serbia or Croatia. It is not up to Bosniaks to bow down in submission and adapt to them, we don't owe them anything.
@@tarik6990 Sorry to burst your bubble but you do realize that Bosnia didn't really exist in the mid 1800s, it was merely another Imperial province like so many others... If you want to talk about independent Bosnian borders you have to go back to the 1400s as that's the last time Bosnia was actually independent before the modern era post the Yugoslav wars. And I'm truly sorry for you if you think that anyone mentioning anything related to ethnicities is immediately a fascist or talking like one. You give fascists way too much power, they don't own the term ethnicity nor its usage.
@@Owlr4ider Refusing to look at historical facts because they are inconvenient to you is not a valid argument, your criterias are not general criterias. It doesn't matter in what form Bosnia existed in the mid 1800s, the current borders of Bosnia are roughly the same borders as the Bosnia vilayet from the late 1860s so they have been the same borders for roughly 150 years now.
Fascists and their numerous useful idiots are the only ones who still to this day advocate for different borders so they can finally achieve their imperialistic projects at the expense of other ethnic groups who they would gladly butcher again if given the opportunity. They tried to do that in the 1990s and largely failed but not before committing crimes that are unforgiveable and that they still to this day celebrate and glorify. They had an idea of what the region should look like, how it should be shaped and were willing to kill innocent civilians, women and children to create their "pure" state. Torture, rape, murder and ethnic cleansing were considered fair game and fair tools to meet these ends. It's those people you want to appease?
Bosniaks are a mayority in Bosnia and Herzegovina. More than 60%. Serbs do own more land but thats because of etchnic cleansing and genocide. The Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina is just as developed as serbia,bulgaria,etc. It even has bigger wages and all other payments than serbia(a country that wasnt destroyed 30 years ago),so the actual problem is republika srpska which currenty in a serious debt problem. The solution is to cancel the dayton agreetment and go back to the constitution of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina(1992-1997) and than it will function just like every other country in Europe.
@@brickxtremehd4282 You say the problem is Repulika Srpska, yet what exactly is your solution...? Canceling the Dayton agreement and returning to the Republic of Bosnia doesn't answer the question of what happens to Republika Srpska... Do you return it to Serbia, thus agreeing with my above point of ethnically drawn borders or do you keep it? If you keep it than you're basically back at the Dayton agreement whether you call it that or not.
6 record scratches! A new record!
I like that Clinton impression lol
You do know that thousands and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were very unlucky during that aggression on Bosnia,right? How would they feel if we Bosniaks did this to Serbian women and young girls?? Bosnia. 1992-1995…..
why do you keep deleting my coment???
We Bosnians at this point don't care anymore if we get accepted or not into EU, also alot of Europeans come to Bosnia because it's alot cheaper then EU countries.
There are about 10 things we can fix within the country before we think about EU membership which either way is not a good idea.
EU financial grants is what you need in order to finance the changes you need to make economically and structurally. Anyone with a working brain can see that.
Ooh if you think is worse there, try Labanon
Well, Lebanon is having one President that shall always be a Maronite Catholic, while the rest of offices must be filled with another sectarian group each.
@@DevSarman yeah and it has served them very well over the years
the problem with ''croat moderate'' against whom all croats are protesting, isn't that he's moderate.
it's because he's illegitimate to represent croats - since majority of croats didn't vote for him.
bosniaks, however, did.
''croat moderate'' is a quisling
12:30 - also, that's just simply false.
not ever was passport not requiered to transit through neum, regardless of destination of travel
really poorly investigated video, i must say
Its a left wing liberal pro Bosniak view that is not legitimate
@@ASinghJ91 has nothing to do with political stance.
@@spacecube8561 his name is Zeljko, he is a chatolic, you´ve called others Croatian with less evidence. Ofc its his political stance thats bad for the Bosnian Croats
@@dzenanbrkic9606 he's illegitimate
his religion is irelevant
his name is sejdo the quisling
edit - oh yea, and he isn't even a croat at all
@@ASinghJ91 As opposed to forcing a single Croat party (HDZ) to control 50% of the Federation and speak on behalf of all Bosnian Croats, that's totally legitimate of course.
NYC to Albany 8hours NYC to Baltimore only 4hours NY State is bigger
I am disappointed with the video. I've been following you for a long time and learning about places I know nothing about. now that i've seen a video about something i'm familiar with, i'm concerned about what the quality of your videos really is.
10:10 what pronunciation of Croats was that? FFS.
Wow this video gave me a headache! So much mess.
This is a great example of a situation in which a population exchange/transfer would be so much better for everyone. Like between Greece and Turkey.
There was already a population exchange after the war ended, most Serbs went to Republika Srpska and most Bosniaks to Federation, its as divided as it gets.
In theory it sounds great...but in practice population exchanges can be bloody, brutal, and lead to countless deaths. Look at the death tolls when Greece and Turkey exchanged populations, or when India and Pakistan did it.
@@demogorge511 Not true. The population exchange between Greece and Turkey was done after the war by an agreement, without any blood.
@@demogorge511 There has never been a peaceful population transfer in the entire human history of mankind.
That's why as a philosophy, Humanism, that only focus on humans regardless of other considerations (religion, race, native language, etc.) was so successful in western Europe into "creating" national identities regardless of dozens, hundreds of small dialects and local differences. The problem in Bosnia and Herzegovina is that they don't have one language of prestige and accord (each language has its own claim) and there is no foreign language that can occupy such place (as it happens in many African countries where the former colonial power's language works as the de facto language bridge among ethnicities), plus religion is too important for such people as to embrace and embody (Humanist) secularism as the sole guidance for an hypothetical unified nation and ideology follows closely.
This country is an example of why Identity Politics (as replacement of Humanism) is a horrible idea and ideology: you can't (and will never) satisfy each and every group, you can only favor a common goal (and philosophy and ideology) whose main goal is NOT to pit each group against each other (or many groups against a purported dominant one). Seed resentment and division and focus on what makes you "so special, unique, different" and you will never reach a shared, common ground.
In fact, this was a policy used but colonial powers to divide its colonial subjects: it's an inherent human trait, ethnocentrism.
Makes one wonder how Josif Bros Tito was able to unite the disparate factions as Yugoslavs, overcoming the historic differences and animosities. Yes, Visual Politik has a video on Tito, but while the platitudes of Tito sound nice, there is something more to his mojo. And I suspect it has to do with him being something of a dictatorial strongman because emphasizing unity on share human experience (shared Yugoslav identity in Tito's case) is not a very strong glue, unfortunately.
@@davidford3115 Because they were never really united, only pressed together; "each (Yugoslav) republic and province had its own constitution, supreme court, parliament, president and prime minister." I suspect Tito maintained such division because, as I mentioned before, people who hate each other hardly will accord to topple you (if you are the tyrant). No single premier of any individual republic or province could be as strong as he was for the whole country. But logically this only last as much as the strongman.
every heard of switzerland?
NO. They speak EXACTLY the same language. They just CHOOSE to call it different things.
When Tito was around he would have locked up these 3 clowns / president for a decade and the others would behave. But Tito was a DICTATOR and we cannot have that.😁
@@ralfanari8854 Yes and the cantons were not forced into an union by an external force (like the Ottoman Empire and later Tito to the different ethnicities), they revolted against a form of republic imposed by Napoleon, adopted a form of (close to) "direct democracy" and their constitution is heavily inspired by the (Humanist) constitution of the USA, what was my point.
I like when you said that BiH sufferred the most in the ex yugo conglict. We were sacrifized. This fact should make us all shand as one? I am catholic and ortodox from bosnia, i feel neither croat or serb but bosnian
Waaaaaait what? The only country in Europe besides Turkey with Muslim majority?
Albania says hi?
Kosovo say hello too
@@hkchan1339 Not a country tho.
Turkey doesn't belong in Europe. Europe for Europeans. Nobody considers turkey in Europe but turks and bosnians
Bosnia & Herzegovina has just been granted EU candidate status with the 3 presidents signing an agreement to work on the quickest cooperative ways to gain EU membership. Positive signs.✌
No they are not positive signs, they are a distraction.
No its not! Bosnia getting into the EU would be the fall of europe. They can get go fuck themselves.
0:35 would Albania and Kosovo (here come the Serb commentators) not also count for Muslim majority? At least Kosovo for sure.
The Dayton Agreements may have stopped the war, but the framework was exceptionally short sighted.
When a country has three kings, there is no luck for the people.
The percentage is not importen in this case. KOSOVO still prays for the best days ever for Bosnia and Hercegovina, from now ON without lista serbska on the government since no Former Yugosllavia.
And those three presidents are still in 'lower' rank than the High Representative of Bosnia and Herzegovina, whose not even from BiH itself.
Should be Queen Elizabeth. We are impartial because we hate Serbs, Catholic separatists and Muslims equally.
True! Bosnia is a western colony. The HR has the power to change laws and sack politicians.
@@mdza And the HR is not elected by the people but by technocrats in Brussels.
I find it odd that this whole video droned on and on without any mention to the Ustaše, where Croat Catholics & Muslims committed genocide against the other minorities, while trying to carve out their own independent state.
There is a reason for such bad blood by the Serbs & Jews in this region… the bad blood can not be discounted by merely ignoring it.
"Muslims" (Bosniaks) did not commit any genocide, they were under hostile Ustase occupation during the Second World War and some Bosniaks became regime collaborators just like in every European country during the war.
@@tarik6990 - the Ustaša murdered hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Jews, and Roma as well as political dissidents.
The Ustaša considered themselves a racial membership of Croats, who were comprised of religious followers of Roman Catholics & Muslims.
Sure, there were some Catholics & Muslims who disagreed with the movement, and persecuted as dissidents… but the racial movement joined people of both religious groups, because their racial group was common.
My comment still stands: this video is incomplete without talking about racial & religious genocide by Ustaša in the 1940’s, when discussing genocide during Yugoslavia breakup in the 1999’s.
Full Disclosure: I am not of any of these ethnic or faith groups, just observing from a scholarly perspective.
@@DavidHalko There is no such thing as a 'racial group' when it comes to the Ustase. Serbs are not a racial group and Nazis as a whole considered Slavs to be an inferior group so the Ustase and some Bosniaks were nothing but useful idiots to the cause.
If you really want to look at it from a scholarly perspective then you should read about all the Bosniaks (Muslims) who helped shelter and save Jews during World War II. You shoud also read about the Sarajevo Haggadah, a Jewish manuscript which was hidden by Dervis Korkut, a Muslim, during World War II who risked his life to take it to safety outside the city. Today there are 4 synagogues in Sarajevo and a Jewish center in a city with 90%+ Muslims.
Still, none of this has anything to do with the situation in Bosnia TODAY.
@@tarik6990 - “There is no such thing as a ‘racial group’ when it comes to the Ustase [sic]”
If you would have said there is no such thing as a racial group, I would have agreed with you, but with the Ustaša, Croats of different faith groups (Muslim & Catholic) were historically bundled together by alliance & by blood 🩸. The Serbs & Gypsies were not. We will talk about how this “Croat” ethnic group came into existence.
I am well aware that the National Socialists of Germany considered Slavs as inferior. The Muslim Croats of the Balkans were different, selectively bred by Ottomans for almost 700 years, from the Balkan Croat peasantry. Serbs were running the state since they were the majority & fought for the Allies in WW1. The Ustaša provided Hitler with former unselects & selected [Muslim] “Croats” from the Balkans, needed to secure the Balkans through an ethnic Croat insurgency. The Croats were formerly ruled by / as the Ottomans, and formerly allied with the losing Germany 🇩🇪 of WW1.
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“Read about the Bosniaks (Muslims) who helped shelter and save Jews during World War II… also read about the Sarajevo Haggadah”
There are good people everywhere, who were doing the right thing, in difficult times.
People who do the right thing during difficult times are certainly to be celebrated, but we fall into repeated patterns when we ignore the butchers of the past.
There were significant quantities of Croat Partisans & Serbian rebels at the time, fighting against Germany.
“Situation in Bosnia TODAY”
Actually, it makes a very clear understanding of how WW1 & WW2 & Today’s ethnic conflicts evolved.
We know the Ottomans slaved the Slavs of the Balkans, to be Janissaries. A percentage of Balkan children were taken (only the highest quality children), converted to Islam ☪️, fought in Ottoman armies against infidels, and survivors returned to the Balkans as administrators of the Muslim regime. When they returned home to the Balkans, the other looked like them (same ethnicity), but they were of the economic class of the slavers. The administrative positions open to the Muslims offered wealth, in contrast to the peasantry who provided a percentage of their children (only the finest were selected) as slave payments to the Ottoman occupiers of the Balkans.
This group of wealthy [Muslim] surviving slaves and [largely non-Muslim] victims of occupation who breed a percentage of their children to be selected [superior] slaves were of common ethnicity. This group, of former WW1 German Allies, now becoming WW2 Allies, would eventually form the core of the “Croat” Ustaša. Those who did not join the Ustaša were persecuted.
They fought with Germany during WW1,
fought again with Germany during WW2, and
fought against the Serbs in the 1990’s.
This, in no way, gives the Serbs a pass for the atrocities they committed, but it is clear that the distrust between ethnicities were only bottled up under Tito, and never healed.
Interestingly enough, National Socialists of Germany did not invent the concentration camp, neither did the Ustaša, but they learned it from the [Muslim] Young Turks of failing Ottoman Empire during the Armenian Genocide of WW1… in the quests for Turks to make an ethnically pure state of Turkey. They inspired Hitler. Hitler said the end of the 1939 Obersalzberg Speech, "Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"
While we had the genocides of WW1, WW2, the “Croats” of former Ottoman Balkans, and we still have ethnic tensions which led to the breakup of Yugoslavia after WW2, along similar lines to religio-ethnic lines of WW1 & WW2.
@@DavidHalko You keep refering to Bosniaks as ‘Muslim Croats’. They are not Croats, they are a distinct ethnic group. There are indeed Muslims in Croatia today but they make up a tiny percentage of the population and are usually Bosniaks or Albanians who came to the country in the 1960s or 1970s for work and stayed there.
And again your analysis is relevant to what happened in World War II and during Ottoman times, not relevant to what is going on today.
Doesn't Lebanon and Iraq have 3?
why is everyone talking about the Balkans all of a sudden...
did something happen recently?
Balkan center of the world!
Putin is trying to stir up trouble in the region. Just like the Tsars did in the lead-up to World War 1.
yes,
Kosovo want serbs to stop using serbian car plates and serbian documents but serbs in kosovo refuse so they blocked a lot of roads and some news reported shooting but with no further reporting on that
now Kosovo government said that they will try to implement that in a month but this is the second time they postponed because last time same thing happened. blocked roads, protesting,.....
Putin putting his nose in Bosnia again......
Culture is very important for the people who don’t think so they need to study the history of the Soviet Union and of the United States.
Albania is also majority Muslim at 62%, alongside Bosnia
13:16 Pelžezak
Iz bosne neznam Jel nelovo lete nas Ali znam I pricati amrekanski(from Bosnia I don't know if you guys hate us but I know how to speak in American)
Turkey and Bosnia are not the only countries in Europe with a Muslim majority. Cannot forget Albanians. Count them as one or two countries it doesn’t matter. They’re clearly European. Turkey is barely so.
And Kosovo.
You continue to discuss the impact both Serbs and Croats have on Bosnia and their demands for independence in that territory, but people forget to mention that the majority of the people in Bosnia are Bosnian Muslims.. and they keep receiving the short end of the stick, almost completely forgotten, quite sad.
That’s like if Canada and Mexico played a major role in Americas politics. Just doesn’t make sense.
You do know that thousands and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were very unlucky during that aggression on Bosnia,right? How would they feel if we Bosniaks did this to Serbian women and young girls?? Bosnia. 1992-1995…..
Well you are a majority... But the difference between serbs and bosniaks in terms of % ain't realy a huge one... And serbs hab their own automanty.
Guys, there is no excuse for Srebrenica, but please keep the timeline correct. Nato bombing started BEFORE Srebrenica and NOT BECAUSE of Srebrenica. Before Srebrenica, paramilitary formations were responsible for war crimes much more than army of Republika Srpska. Whole world was bombing Serbian army. No wonder that Serbian army leader Mladic lost his mind completely seeing that he is losing everything. Another important fact during Nato bombing was the death of Mladic's daughter. Some say it was suicide, some say it was set to look like one. Not defending the war crimes, but let's try to analize things with important psychological details.
The first massacre Serbs did in the war happened in foca in 1992 and we now know up to 2700 civilians were murdered their
You are talking about Serbian civilians who were killed by Bosniaks in 1992, about 3000+. Srebrnica was the answer to that.
@@amarillorose7810 I so often her this claim 3000 Serbs were massacred near srebrenica but I find no source. Where were they killed? Where are they buried? Please give me a link
@@amarillorose7810 3000 serb civilians? That is just lies and propaganda from Serb radicals. No evidence anywhere. Not even close.
It would have been nice if you mentioned that whole territory of Bosnia and Hezegovina was Croatian territory before the invasion of Ottomans.
No, it wasn't. It was Bosnian Kingdom
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 It was called that only because of regional placement. Majority were Croats and Catholic. It is same with Dalmatia and Pannonia. They were all Croat land.
@@snokehusk223 every country was called the way it was called because of regional placement. It was a Bosnian Kingdom, nothing to do with the region of Croatia that was under Hungarian control at the time
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 But that doesn't disapprove that ot was Croatian kingdom. Some Croatian lords joined in the personal union with Hungary while Bosnian ones chose not to. But that didn't make not be Croats anymore. They still had connections with each other and lords married between them aslo. So the only difference was that it's lords were independant.
@@snokehusk223 they weren't Croats, Croatia was only called Croatia because of regional placement
Doesn't Albania also have a muslim majority?
Albania technically has a muslim population making up about 60% of the country but many choose to identify by ethnicity rather than through religion.
0:38 that's wrong because Muslim majority countries in Europe currently are Albania Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo , and turkey ,god knows 👍🏻
The solution in my opinion: split the country in 3. Two of them reuniting with Serbia and Croația, one bosnian independent state
so croatia built the bridge for nothing
@@fcredness11 you could say Croatia build the bridge for the small villages on the Pelješac peninsula.
@@fcredness11 why nothing? This isn’t something that can be solved immediately, this territory reorganisation would take part maybe in 20-30 years but it probably will happen, the bridge will pay itself out.
That could be the solution ofc but that small independent state would be a problem in Europe. That is why Serbs and Croats are kept forcible in Bosnia. Muslim majority is a doubtful thou. Last census had a number of problems, for example a lots of people not living in Bosnia were included in that census. Bosnia can’t be a civil state (one man, one vote) for a number of reasons and it can’t be dominated by one ethnic group. As soon they realise that, there can be some progress.
In my opinion half of romania should join hungary and rest remain romania
is that correct?
Doesn’t Albania have a Muslim majority?
I hope that neither Serbia nor Bosnia Herzegovina join the EU. They would probably be the biggest source of instability and a real threat to peace and democracy.
one have a foot in Russia the other in Turkey
dobro je pa se ti ne pitaš
and thats EU and NATO's own fault Bosnia would not have RS if it wasnt for dayton accords, the Bosniak-Croat alliance was close to RS capital but NATO and EU imposed Dayton Accords, Majority of Bosnians wants to join EU (88% Bosniaks, Bosnian Croats - 75%, Bosnian Serbs - 54%) mostly serbs dont want to join due to Serbia not being in EU or maybe because of Kosovo issue. The next problem is the 3 presidents who are corrupt..
@@KenjiBiH EU faults for the war in 1990-1995?!?!?!?!?!? Then it is also the fault of the KKK, the Black Panthers, the Pope, Russia, the African Union, Uefa, FIFA and above all the Dalai Lama
@@fido6402 not saying it's their fault for the war but their fault for Bosnia being this dysfunctional Dayton peace accords was the dumbest solution when the bosniak-croat federation were close to banja Luka they (EU) imposed Dayton Accord
Im from Bosnia.
You do know that thousands and thousands of Bosniak women and young girls were very unlucky during that aggression on Bosnia,right? How would they feel if we Bosniaks did this to Serbian women and young girls?? Bosnia. 1992-1995…..
The only option I see is the country being split into 3 new countries, along its ethnic borders.
Those ethnic lines run right through the center of cities like Mostar.
Dividing the country will mean Berlin-style divided cities.
or leave united Bosnia for all people who feel like Bosnians. The rest of people can go.
But what about Bosniaks that still live in Srebrenica???? They would be surrounded by Serbs and they would face discrimination.
@@davidmihal6279 There are no ethnic lines in Mostar, the Croatian ethnic line doesn't even exist.
Should the EU...? No. The last thing the EU wants or needs is to become embroiled in future instability in the region. A history of violence and ethnic cleansing held at bay by a tenuous political balance that seems on the brink of collapse is hardly an inviting environment for anyone with long-term interests in the region. Except maybe for Russia who would actually benefit from the instability right now as it would distract the EU and NATO from Ukraine. Ultimately they will have have to look to each other to save themselves from political turmoil. Only then can they be a candidate for EU membership. Besides all that, with the talk of secession, you have to ask the question of "Who is going to be the EU applicant in a year or two from now, and will they be the same entity ten years from now, or will they be further divided into even more competing micro-states? The EU has more than enough internal secession movements as it is. I cannot imagine them welcoming any more of them into their Union.
It's fine, most of us don't want to join the European Union either way and we know it won't happen.
Complete History of Bosnia and Herzegovina:
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One Serbian and two Muslim Presidents!
One of the muslim presidents is the "pretend" Croat ( a half Serb/Croat) married to a muslim, who does not qualify for a Croatian passport.
"3 Ethnicites" Why do content on a subject when ypu dont even know the basic? The Serbs, Croats and Bosnianks are Slavs, that is their ethnicity. Their nationality is different.
They are Slavs but with various % of Slavic DNA.
The Croats ( & Slovenes) are 60% Slavic, while the Serbs are 30% Slavic.
You should not blame the EU for dragging it's feet when it comes to something they already don't feel comfortable with. You should blame EU for progressing in any way while these lingering issues are not resolved.
Issue is that EU is actually supporting these clowns in power. Each of them either enyoyed or is still enjoying EU/US support. Dodik, the referendum guy, was imposed as Serbian President/PM by USA and High Representative. Now he's trying to screw them over so they don't take him down.
People in Bosnia actually get along just fine on individual basis. It's politicians struggling for relevance, who push ethnic agenda, that suck. On all 3 sides.
Meh, even if they want to seperate I doubt Serbia or Croatia will give them an easy access, just like what happened to Donetsk with Russia.
What u mean?
this reminder me of 3 Girls 1 Cup
It’s the western balkans major powers always made the rules there and so I will be the little independents all of those states had even from the Roman days are only when there is a vacuum of power it’s all a joke the best and only thing in my opinion is that the whole region joins the EU and NATO that would bring stability there in the long run and all the ethnic groups are all together then with there kin.
Dayton agreement is a ceasefire agreement. It was ment to be temporary before an actual constitution was written.
That is the main reason Bosnia and Herzegovina is so dysfunctional.
I suspect that trying to make them remain one unified country is also a part of the dysfunction. If the Serbia majority areas want to be annexed by Serbia, let them. If the Croat dominated areas want to be a part of Croatia, let them. And let the Bosnian Muslim areas be their own independent states if they so choose. This idea that it has to be one nation is based on 18th century chauvinism.
@@davidford3115 I understand your point but that idea is also very dangerous.
Serb and Croat majority areas were ethnically cleansed. Giving them the right to join Serbia/Croatia would be a message that war crimes pay off.
And the "Bosniak part" is cut in two parts complicating the matter even more.
@@davidford3115 Also Bosniaks and other pro Bosnia forces could have accepted break up of the country at any point in the war, but despite terrible losses, and disadvantages position they fought on.
Don't underestimate their will to fight for their country again if need be.
@@user-ue4nq3kc3j bs..Serbs owned a majority of the land in bosnia..Serbs were farmers..Croats amd turks were mostly city people. So stop the lies, ethnic cleansed
@@mikevarga6742
Google Prijedor, Bijeljina, Visegrad, Srebrenica and so on before you accuse someone of lying.
And don't call Bosniaks Turks. Bosniaks and Turks share nothing but religion...
Bosniaks number 50% of the population, Croats number 15%, Serbs number 30%. The rest 5% are mainly Roma and mixed families inter-ethnic marriages. The Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina comprises of 3 members, representing the 3 constituent nations of Bosnia and Herzegovina. The constituent nations are Bosniaks who have 1 member, Croats who have 1 member, and Serbs who have 1 member. The chairman of the Presidency rotates between the 3 members. All 3 have equal rights and say in the Presidency.
Only on paper, not in real world
The actual numbers are around 60% Bosniak, around 9% Croats and around 28% Serbs.
Do you know a country with 9 kings as president ?...
Malaysia
Isn't this alot like what Lebanon went through ?
No it's a lot worse.
Plesiak Bridge , lol .
Croat member of presidency is not 'moderate', he is acting as second bosniak member of presidency as he was elected by muslim votes, he is acting as bosniak extreme nationalist
Would you have a problem of a Muslim Croat being a President of Croatia? You are sounding like an extremist yourself. IDC if a Chinese or Japanese Bosnian was born in Bosnia and if he wanted to be a president, as long as he is for Bosnia and not a dissolutionist (cough Dodik and Covic cough), then I wouldn't care what ethnicity and religion he or she is. You are only talking strong because you have mama Croatia next to you. It's easy to talk when you have Catholic nations around and millions of Croats backing you up.....
@@BosnianBornBeast i would not mind if croatian member of presidency is muslim if he was elected by croats. You bosniaks are living in media bubble and your politicians are perpetuating hate toward croats just because they lack with results so they only can get votes on account of nationalism and unitarism.
@@antoandjapic6636 The only reason we have three president is because Croatia and Serbia put their noses in Bosnian affairs to "protect their brothers and sisters" in Bosnia. What threat are we to you? We didn't have a political stance until this war came. We are surrounded by Christian countries for god sakes. How would you feel if you were surrounded by Muslim countries like Armenia and you are always getting threaten by them? And they use this false pretext saying that just because you are a different religion that you are the root of the problem in the region. Like I said to Serbs as well "Ako imate problema za Muslimanima zasto ne ratovas sa turcima a nego ljudi sto jedva imaju 3 miliona?" Lahko je napadati manju naciju I plus imate Nato sto vas more braniti.
@@BosnianBornBeast i dont think you are threat to us, but niether is croatia for you. Croatia is eu and nato member, it is not acceptable to think about redrawing of borders in eu or nato. Btw i'm sure nato and croatia will intervene if republika srpska starts something. You must understand that if you want stabilize country it will not be with that mindset.
@@antoandjapic6636 and how is gonna croatia help us if war happens in anycase bosnia is still not part of NATO and Milanović is hater of bosnia
Worrysome news right now btw on the Kosovo Serbia border
Now, a bit of realism:
In B&H, 98% of population have same native language. It is not Ethnic cleansed, but mostly ethnically clean country in Europe.
Problem is that they can not agree on anything and drift away from each other on religion lines. During Yugoslavia situation was calm, because communist government suppressed religion, but during history one religious group dominated other 2 based on which power was occupying them - Serbia, Austria-Hungary or Turks.
Basically we need 'State Capitalism' (socialism) back, with Vladimir Lenin or Leon Trotsky as the premier, not Stalin or Gobichev
I'm pretty sure religion wasn't a factor, because the vast majority of Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians are athiest. Plus no Slavic group gave the other mercy for changing religions, because religion wasn't the issue. The antagonism torwards each other has more to do with clan ties.
@@theawesomeman9821 religion is main factor because religion is excuse for criminal activites of 3 leaders
@@theawesomeman9821 Athiest? You mean they are secular but identify as a religion which they follow culturally? Majority are either Muslims, Catholics or orthodox which played a role in the war but the ethnicity was the biggest issue.
@@basedblackbeard4456 Not many of these Slavic follow a religion since Communism destroyed much of it during the Cold War era. From Croats I've met, their biggest issue with the Serbs were the dialect differences in their language and the fact that they don't like being dominated by Serbs who tend to be less educated than them yet yield so much power back then.
That bill Clinton was almost spot on, good job. Anyway interesting video, never knew a country where it was run by 3 countries
bosnia technically is not run by 3 countries even tho serbia and croatia have a lot of influence rather there are 3 presidents that are elected by the people who live in bosnia and herzegovina those 3 presidents reprisent 3 groups of people who went to war with each other 20 years ago without a winner so polititions use the war in the 90s to bring hatred to the people so people start hating each other
I don't get why this bridge is even a topic. It's built by a different country, an EU member, on its territory. A country that's about to enter the borderless Schengen area.
Bosnia and Herzegovina's stupid ethno nationalist problems are their own, I think pretty much everyone in the EU is tired of them.
It isn't. It was a topic just to talk about cuz guess boredom for the muslim nationalist. Later and after it finished noone cared and if you ask the population on both sides they forgot about why there was drama for. Anyway, its just visualpolitik doing cheap click research!
The construction of the bridge shows that the EU does not see the Bosnian problem being resolved anytime soon or the country joining the union anytime soon. The bidge will become almost pointless when bosnia join the EU but it shows they would rather just avoid them then try and fix the problem.
Hey Alex, we're pretty much tired of the EU meddling too.
@@tarik6990 But you're not tired of the EU money, eh? And who's we anyways, since Croats and Serbs see things one way, while the Bosniacs see it the other way. Keep doing what you're doing and before long you'll have no country any longer. Then you'll whine and cry for the EU or the US to help you all over again, won't you? And you'll get a middle finger as the answer.
@@dimitrije2608 That's true. At the same time, Croatia is joining the Schengen next year. It shouldn't be a hostage to Bosnian internal messed up politics and wait another 20 or 30 years.
Im from bosnia 💀
take me to America, i want to see statue of Liberty................
Timely video, winds of winter blowing already in the balkan.