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Rank your teams trading, cap management, and drafting out of 10? 🤔I'd love to see what you come up with.
I like how even in this generation, there's legitimately still the question of who's the best between Sakic and Yzerman.
Absolute legends.
The Nick Leddy for Jake Walman trade has to be one of stevie y's most under the radar moves
Love Walman!!!
hoping the Kostin trade will be a gem too. he did good vs Gudbranson too. Detroit needs a guy like him. plus i like how veleno and Ras work the forechek lately . Ras is getting stronger
Cheveldayoff has to be up there, never made a mistake in his career, always drafts right and look how the Dubois trade worked out. Also he has never signed a big free agent because they dont want to come to Winnipeg yet has a cup contender. This is the definition of building from within
Sakic and CMac have done some incredible things for the Avs. Sakic has pulled off some insane trades and I think he's developed a culture that is similar to teams in his prime, hearing him and Forsberg talk on DNVR about what those teams were like was awesome, you can tell he wants his guys to have a similar experience. Also trading Duchy, was the best thing to ever happen to the Avs franchise.
I would say that the Patrick Roy trade was the best thing to ever happen to the Avs, but the Duchy trade was the second-best. I love what Sakic and CMac have done for this team!
@@Dutchovenderlinde quite very well could be. Definitely started a winning culture within the Avs franchise that's lead us to this point.
Yzerman is in his own league when it comes to drafting, and it doesn't even come close
Ken Holland would like a word
Rob, as an avid Avalanche fan, I've been able to watch all but 5 games going back to the 2016-17 season. Sakic really turned the ship around. I think hiring Coach Bednar was probably one of his best & overlooked signings.
Super Joe had kind of a rough start to his GM career, with that totally abismal 2016 season. However, after the Duchene trade, he's been nothing outside of brilliant.
I will also say that while I love what Sakic has done with the Avs and agree that he's made some outstanding moves that lead to the Cup in 2022, I would rate his drafting lower. The Avs have kind of "wasted" a handful of First Round picks. All 1st Rounders who didn't workout for the Avs: Tyson Jost, Martin Kaut, Alex Newhook, Justin Barron and Oscar Olausson (he still could work out). However, he has flipped most of them for more draft capital.
Kelly mcrimmon was the assistant GM when Vegas entered the league, McPhee was GM, than a couple years in they both got promotions just saying
Surprised this comment has not got more attention because it's 100% true
Okay but can we talk about income tax advantage. Certain teams have a huge advantage because their cap hit/player income ratio is so much better. For example, all canadian teams have a huge disadvantage because the income tax is so much higher there, other teams such as Florida, Tampa, Vegas, have a huge advantage because they have no state tax, therefore players are more likely to take "team friendly" contracts because they're being paid the same as someone being paid slightly higher in a different state
The NHL really need to make compensations on the cap hit
not slightly. 20% for a florida, texas, nevada versus canadian teams, roughly 10% for other us states versus canada.
@@coolbroccolie6455 This would be great but the NHL will never do this, because they'd rather put the onus upon states to give away tax money than compensate it from their side. I do think it's unethical but I'm a little surprised the Canadian markets don't just forgive taxes on sports players for this reason.
Amazing these 3 players. Like Joe Sakic and Steve Yzerman. I remember watching them, collecting them and such in the 1990's only to see them be even better GM's than players. And that is saying something! Its amazing!
Dude enough with your backhanded compliments... They are both HOF's that's on the top 100 NHL players of all time list... I'd put them both as top 20! So to say they are better GM's... That's ridiculous! They are both among the best centers and captains in sports history and lead their respective teams to multiple Stanley cups while remaining dominant stars in the league for over a decade and on!
Jim Nill has done incredible thing with the stars
Patrik Allvin has taken a mess of a Canucks franchise and is beginning to make it look respectable again. Great free agent signings and a great trading record so far. His biggest task is coming up soon though when he needs to resign Petey, Hronek and Zadorov so depending on how he does with those contracts and if he drafts well while continuing what he's already doing well I could see him end up on the list of elite GM's in the next decade
well my GM is yzerman. and one of my fav players growing up was also yzerman. so even though i am OBNOXIOUSLY biased, I think I have the best GM hehe
Overall best GM has to be Stevie Y. Look at what he did in Tampa.
Don't forget conacher for Bishop, solidified the net til vasy, then flipping Bishop on an expiring contract for Eric cernak. Lol
did you just find that out??
@@dontreportmecauseialreadyb8658are you slow? did I mention anything about just finding out ? exactly. stay quiet
How about Lou lammirello
Sorry, who won a Cup as GM?
I know people shit on Lou, but his strategy is very similar to McCrimmon. 3 cups to back it up, he gets things done even at 82 years old!
lol
He was one of the best, he's been slipping the past few years. Time for a nursing home
Isles finally look like they're putting it together
Great video rob! On the road for 100k✌🏻
Bill Guerin: Cap Management 3/10 Drafting 9/10 Free Agent signings 5/10
Bill Armstrong’s gonna be in this conversation sooner than most NHL fans are ready to give him credit for and I do not give a fuck, GO YOTES!
I think Torts, Briere and Jonesy are an showing they'll be an awesome trifecta in Philly
Would love to see your perspective on this topic on the opposite side of the spectrum, great video as always rob!
Steve Yzerman, jim Rutherford, Kyle dubas in order respectively
I wouldn't give Vegas a 10/10. They actually had to trade away players to stay under the cap.
ya that's true but they moved the players they had to and it never hurt them
EA sports on easy mode, put your team in a sunbelt red state, wait for a cup to materialize. Red state GMs never have to deal with the consequences of their stupid actions and come out looking like geniuses. Contrast that to Winnipeg, Chevy is god level gming to be a subcontender team. It's amazing how easy it is to be a gm in a sunbelt red state, like if people only knew the challenges of places like Winnipeg. You can't even draft properly as you have to avoid players who won't want to play in Winnipeg. You pretty much have to draft players from the colder parts of Canada or the colder parts of the mid west if you want a shot in hell at keeping them around. You aslo have to add an entire tier of scouting to ensure you don't get a locker room cancer who's gonna make everyone miserable mid winter.
They made the tough decisions that most teams are too scared to. Definitely 10/10.
u missed kucherov 3x4.7 and debrincat is 4x7,85
I think Bill Guerin deserves some credit for what he's been able to do in Minnesota after inheriting some TERRIBLE roster moves and contracts.
SY may not get us a cup, but if we don't get one it will not because SY wasn't smart enough or didn't work hard enough. It's because that's the nhl. He's surprised me in the best ways. Jake Walman was just an aside thrown in and he's a top two defenseman. Holland could have never pulled that off.
The fact that Stevie is still involved with the Red Wings feels nice
Drouin as a depth w/upside pick is a very funny troll
I'm definitely curious to see what Grier does with the sharks. Obviously their horrid start was maybe worse than anticipated, but it looks like Grier has a rebuilding plan in mind. Also, the ability to move most EK65's contract is starting off very strong. The Addison trade was robbery imo, and the team has a ton of rental assets for next year. Also identifying Justin Bailey is looking very smart. Musty is also obviously looking very good and Smith is developing as expected, but we obviously need time to see if any of his other picks will pan out.
Though, also, Ohkotiuk is looking like a diamond from the Meier trade, and currently Zetterlund has 1 more point and 3 more goals than Timo Meier. So that trade is looking very good for the Sharks.
Yzerman for sure
#1 Chicago, Kyle Davidson, #2 Nashville, Barry Trotz, # 3 Islanders, Lou Lamoriello
Jets are definitely a high rank we rarely completely bust on draft picks and come out of most trades as the winner
2/3 were 90s hockey stars 🤔
Bergevin with Montréal Washington a top gun to
Ron hextall! 😂
Marc Bergavin 😂
Yzerrman drafted once wrong!
He chose Cossa over Wallsted!
Neither of them have played in the NHL yet, but Wallsted is/was the better pick!
He has always had a good scouting team in Tampa and Detroit supporting him.
But, he bears the responsibility and the choice. He does this job very well
I would also give him a 10 out of 10
I do agree that Jesper is currently looking like the better goalie, but until they both play in the NHL, it's impossible to say which pick was better. Cossa definitely has more upside given his size and athleticism, so it's not crazy to think that he could develop into a monster. I'm a Wings fan and I would prefer to have Wallstedt in our pipeline, but I can respect Stevie taking the swing on Cossa even if the pick doesn't work out. Trey Augustine is looking like he has the potential to be an NHL starter, so the Wings have some goalie insurance in case Cossa is a bust.
@@europason2293 I'm also a Red Wing fan and just wanted to say, SY is only human (he also makes mistakes)
Goalkeepers often take longer to develop and therefore you don't know how their career will progress. I hope I'm wrong and Cossa becomes a star
Augustine was a good pick in the 2nd round and could be an alternative or even better (I'm totally on your side)
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
LGRW
The Art of sleeping with your rookie teammate's mother...
Jim Nill deserves more love
Well, we already knew that but JOE SAKIC BABY! The man is a wolf in sheep's clothing out to fleece all the GMs lol
Gotta do worst current Game next. Should be an entertaining one..
With all due respect, Kelly McCrimmon does not belong here. It should be George McPhee. He orchestrated more than half the moves you mentioned before McCrimmon was GM, and still serves as Vegas' POHO. McCrimmon inherited a well built team the same way the current Avs GM did from Joe Sakic, or dare I even say Ken Holland did from Jim Devellano with the Red Wings, or Julien Brisebois did with the Lightning from Yzerman.
None of the 8 players in the draft graphic were picked by McCrimmon. In the 4 drafts McCrimmon has been GM, not a single of the 22 players he's selected have played a game in the NHL
Don’t forget McPhee’s work in Washington that ended in a Stanley Cup for the Caps!
Logan Thompson at 800k is by far vegas’ best signing and no that’s not his ELC
Habs fan here
Our rebuild is going horribly.
Trades have been pretty good but the most important part of the rebuild has been dog shit. The draft is where you’re supposed to grab your franchise cornerstone players but not us, we love us some good character guys with low ceilings but high floors.
Why have generational scoring talent when you can have a right handed defenceman who can pass the puck off the boards out of the zone?!? 😃
Literally a 2 decade long mistake that will haunt the organization
Going horribly is an overtstatement
Sur reinbacher was probably not the right pick but thats like one miss the rest of the picks have been pretty good
I know some will question the slaf pick but that a weak draft and at the moment ill take him over wright any day of the week
The Suzuki/Pacioretty trade alone should pull Kelly M Bit lower in the rating. Otherwise, great list 👌
Steve Yzerman should have a higher score in the cap management category. 8.5
Jim Nill likes to let players walk for nothing and sign depth players for multimillion dollar contracts with NMC's. He has changed his strategy in the draft a little. He used to try to draft defensive 4th line forwards and undersized offensive defencemen in the first round, but looks like someone fixed that (by lying to him that Wyatt Johnston was a defense first forward). He's been pretty good when he decides to trade a player, but if a prospect doesn't work in the Star's system, the have zero value to him.
Did you forget that McCrimmon traded away Nick Suzuki?
Boston traded away Kessel and Thornton. Chicago also traded away Artemi Panarin.
Stevie Y is the best
the NHL has never been the same since the 1994-95lockout
JAGR would have got closest to Gretzky every
Kent Hughes. Wait in 4 years and you’ll see
Vegas has the money to grease some palms. Also how would it look if the owner of a Las Vegas team's prediction didn't come thru? They're definitely a good team but there was many questionable calls during the cup run
You think young Nords wanna go with Lidstrom?
Tom Fitzgerald look what he’s done with the Devils
The briera>>>
Sakic all day
Stevie gave DeBrincat 4 years.
William Karlsson was drafted by Anaheim not Vegas my guy
He was drafted in the expansion draft
9:20 Vasilevskiy is in Tampa, not Detroit.
I’m referring to Yzermans tenure as gm there
@@RobTalksHockeyright, sorry.
vagas was a fixed cup in my view but hey hockey sucks at the moment but dont bring back the quebec nordiques lol
Tom fitzgerald is a god
You forgot ken holland
Jokes, I love your content! I hope you keep up and continue as long as you can 💪 keep growing my guy
"Never before seen pro scouting"
yeah... that's it... I bet the Dallas stars that stole a cup from Dominik Hasek's Sabres
were not a genius built team...
Their entire roster was built upon pro scouting, where we saw 2 cup finals and a Stanley cup within 5 years of existence. We have never see this level of pro scouting before, especially when you consider that we’re talking about an expansion team
yes sure ! But i mean, there have been other great before. Colorado were massive early when they arrived. Sure it is amazing what they accomplished ! 100% agreed it is an amazing team!! @@RobTalksHockey
Wtf does the title have to do with anything
Sakic still better than Stevie Y love it
Pick-collectors and kindergarten-makers shall be doomed. Why wait?? In this extremely egalitarian playground??
Sooo tired of the cap space bullsh*** its for every team. So teams should stop crying about it and dont throw millions at everyone who can skates
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You the man
Really enjoy your videos Rob, but I do think the clickbait titles are getting a bit stale. The NHL will never be the same after 3 GMs guided their teams to success (arguably 2 since Wings haven’t won anything)? Come on man.
Fair haha. But my point is that the NHL is a copycat league. These 3 GMs dominated in their category will cause a ripple effect changing how every team operates. So technically yes it will change the league
Montreal terrible at drafting besides caufield
Bill Guerin is IMO, an underated GM, and makes decisions that most GMs would dance around the elephant in the room.
Stevey Y isn’t even that good of a drafter he flubbed on Drouin, Zadina. He’s good but not amazing. And with his questionable free agency signings I don’t really know why he is so hyped up. Jim Nill deserves way more hype
Holland drafted Zadina...not Yzerman. Moritz Seider is Yzerman's first draft pick as Detroit GM.
Ken Holland is probably the best GM at drafting of all time
All his picks with Edmonton have been the drizzling shits though.
First
Cale Makar is the best d-man in NHL history? Just unsubscribed. I don't mean that as disrespect to Makar--he's super good but that was stupid over hype by a youtuber.
I never said that lol. I said he’s starting the argument. As in, he has shown 100-110 points per season upside. If he does that for a sustained time, there’s a discussion
Great video, I always wondered what you looked like, now I know, thanks🤎🤎🤎
The Steve Y stuff is confusing cause he actually sucks at trades. Ben Chariot? petry?