How Rust rose to dominance (by accident)
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- In this video, we'll learn about Rust's fascinating origin story and its rocky history going from an obscure side project to the most loved programming language in the world.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:39 Background
1:18 Humble beginnings
2:09 Graydon Era
3:05 Emerging Leaders & Directions
5:27 New birth
6:32 Most loved programming language
8:25 The aftermath to present - Věda a technologie
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mf already lives in 2025, all thanks to Rust
I started writing my first Rust program back in 2018 but unfortunately could not be resilient. In 2024 now after finishing my first fully functional (although not performant) simple Linear Regression library, I proudly can call myself a Rustacean.
Keep going!
I know this video is a broad overview, but I'd love to know how the borrow checker came to life. Was it based on academic papers, prior attempts, or a brand new idea...
It's a brand new idea. However, I would also like to know the story behind.
what dominance? how many jobs are offered for rust developers?
theres a new job post like every 2 to 3 days
not as much as other programming fields like webdev. but still plenty.
Yeah that's clickbait. It would be more accurate to say established rather than dominant.
It was a bait and switch. Rustacean YTers always change from "dominant" to "most loved in one or two StackOverflow surveys".
I don't really care about the AI stock footage. But I somewhat agree that it shouldn't be used excessively
I did go a little overboard there lol
@@letsgetrusty Idk I liked it :)
@@letsgetrusty BTW, I didn't intend to say you did! I meant a "general rule of thumb" that applies to everyone
really cool vid, thanks for taking the time to record it
Amazing video! Thank you.
Thanks for the interesting and informative video! I can't seem to get enough of Rust! 🦀
Interesting to hear some history thanks !
waow I love being fed AI slop
Thanks for content. Small criticism, the ai generated pictures are creepy qnd unnecessary.
Awesome video, I always wanted to learn about Rust history!! Also, could you share some resources so we can learn more? Maybe some sources you used to make the video. Thanks!
So, by laying off their developers, Mozilla actually speed up Rust adoption in big tech?
Not trying to be a grammar Nazi here, but writing "lying off" instead of "laying off" got me really confused. When I initially read it, it seemed like you were talking about Mozilla not telling the truth about something, and that got me thinking for a while, trying to figure out what you were referring to
@@yewo.m Thanks, fixed. I'm neither native speaker nor writer, so I'm heavily relying on grammar correction. Sometimes it backfires 😅 So any correction is appreciated
@@topin8997 looks like youtube reverted your edit
@@ok-tr1nw Or there was some weird network glitch. Anyway, checked now in incognito tab, spelling is correct
Yet, Many companies ask for 5+ years of exp.. First of all, the jobs are very less and companies adoption is minimal for some reason. Been trying to find a job in rust with 0 years exp is very hard especially in Australia.
And for almost all advertised jobs, Rust by itself is not sufficient. You usually need domain and other tech experience to go with it.
Very good video!
Thank you!
Honestly, I don't think Rust could have grown as big as it is now if it have stayed true to its original vision that is a garbage collected high-level programming language. The main value proposition of Rust that attracts all kinds of developer is its ability to provide high-level programming features, memory safety, and low-level performance at the same time. You don't ever see people rewrite their C++ program in Go, but the option is tempting in Rust.
It’s only memory safe if you don’t have to interact with external libraries or code and the compiler has zero bugs. When was the last time you wrote code with no external references of any kind and no dependency on libraries? We were solving these issues in the 80’s with Ada, but its marketing wasn’t sexy enough.
However,it’s a significant improvement over C++.
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couple years ago I worked on writing elevator firmware, were were still using C/C++, wonder if the company has adopted Rust...
Did it fix that elevator?
It fixed the world
Rust, it's hard to get it right, but it's even harder to get it wrong :)
Very good video the content is great, the AI footage is good I liked it
I have never run into elevator problem in my entire life.
Is that moustache i see?
I always love rust when it says it can stop memory leak from the very beginning.
I learn most of of programming learning from CZcams and having heard that from an experience programmer saying "This program may have a memory leak". So, I become afraid of C++ and start learning rust.
Although it is not perfect, I begin to start loving rust. Lately, I re-visited my rust project again, and to my surprise, when compiling as release mode rather than debug the binary size is shrinked down by up to 99%.
In my case the debug binary size is 800,000 kb which I don't like.
For release binary, only 8,000kb.
Put this in your Cargo.toml to optimize for speed and still remove as much as possible:
(opt-level: "z" to optimize for size)
```
[profile.release]
#debug = true
strip = "debuginfo"
codegen-units = 1
opt-level = 3
lto = "fat"
panic = "abort"
```
Take this as starting point, but also check the documentation to see what these settings stand for.
can you send the name of the owner/repo cause youtube doesn't allow links that lead users outside youtube I'd like to tinker with your project a bit
@@senzmaki4890 the C++ project or rust?
For the rust project, it is on my laptop. The project is about creating web server using Axum framework in rust.
Do I need to share the code in github?
What configuration should I put in the cargo.toml file ?
It has its place in making writing mission critical software easier, but the hype train does have a tendency to push the language into suboptimal environments and then claim it's the best tool for said job, when clearly less painful tools exist for the job
As an example, writing gameplay in Rust is tedious compared to C/C#/C++ because video games involve modifying and iterating over lots of mutable state, and modelling this in Rust is much less ergonomic than other languages that will let you mutate state like clay
I can do all polymorophic and inhertiance based patterns that c# and c++ has in rust. You just have to program it yourself.
yep, or they gaslight you into thinking rust is "just as easy" or "can do the same things the same way, just better" and then if you naturally struggle with the obnoxious language, then you have a skill issue and are afraid of change lol
@@pup4301 speak of the devil, here comes a gaslighter now
@@pup4301 This isn't relevant for me, I don't use polymorphism or inheritance to model game state, but rather use a custom data oriented approach in a language (C) which makes it less tedious to do so.
@@not_herobrine3752 It took me three months to get the language down and a few more to make anything productive. It took so little time because of the rust book that is freely available . Now it is the same for c and c++ but there library system and the way of using files is the issue for me. I am always looking for easy of use and less configuration over head/complexity. Rust reminds me of c++, c# or java but with a simple configuration system. It does not require you to configure a pointer like in c , setup your files, compile them to classes then use them in another file like java, or download an external system to add libraries and compile your code nor does it require you to learn a whole other programming language like with cmake (does not include meson , ninja, make). Most of the stuff listed comes with the package with rust.
I personally would rather look at your face or even a black screen than fake B roll unsettling AI gen video. Please, don't. I watch your channel for your thoughts and opinions. If you start to leaning into generative AI, us as the audience cannot know to what extent it is being used (such as possibly for your script) which is going to make me think, you don't have anything good or original to say that hasn't already been said. Because as we all know, generative AI does not actually create new things, it just rehashes and regurgitates training data. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but feedback is feedback and I only give it when I actually care about a channel.
Concerns about training data or how it looks make sense, but it can definitely generate more than its training data (stuff that even if is very average, is still completely new), what do you mean
@@David_Box It's unethical because it steals from artists without consent
How did you get the AI stock footage animated so well?
Rust rose to dominance in rewrites of shell utilities. When it comes to large systems, it's a mere whimper.
I'd honestly much prefer still images over (bad) AI generated clips if real stock footage is too expensive. Those clips are rather off-putting
Thanks for the feedback!
@@letsgetrusty love how you just didnt respond! have fun stealing artist's hard work with generative ai i guess
@@pauliesnug ????? what else did you want him to say LOL
@@pauliesnug You can steal stock images as well. What makes you assume that this AI model was using any unlicensed content?
@@Tiritto_ almost all AI generative models use unlicensed content
Does Mozilla use rust? Maybe to rework Firefox?
But these days, I'm thinking about Rust's shortcomings.
It's good that it's different from the existing C++ and that it's different.
It is also good to use abbreviations such as fn, mut, vec, and Rc.
However, if you decide to break away from the grammar of the C-based language,
Reference operators (&) and pointer operators (*) are also used as new symbols or keywords.
I think it would have been good if they had changed it.
Personally, I think the easiest language to code in is Ruby rather than Python. Ruby does not make keyboard typing difficult by pressing the shift key. Since using a lot of symbols does not contribute to readability these days, it is regrettable that it would have been better if a newer approach had been taken in a system language that is about to change significantly.
i personally hate the abbreviations in rust but i agree on your other points. not a big fan of rust, and one of the reasons why is because the same symbols mean different things, and i really didnt like the lack of freedom and (imo) ugly syntax. im curious though, what are some examples of a more ruby like syntax in rust? that sounds nice
What do you mean by "dominance"?
Great to see rust getting popular
It is not. Hype is over.
@@severgun It is not just hype, Rust just fixes an existing problem in low level languages, that being the compiler not warning you that you've not used the RAII pattern correctly in one place.
@@severgunGo get THERAC-25'd
@@idkwhatcouldbeavalable It is entirely hype. Ever since the corporation associated with Rust made it clear they had interest in going the way of oracle with last year's litigious trade mark fiasco, I'd be surprised if any company that takes programming seriously would want to use the language and risk time and legal expenses, even if the ordeal theoretically held no ground. Even though they backtracked then, they've set the trend and odds are realistic that they will try it again elsewhere. If Rust plans on making actual lasting headway, they need to dump the corporations and the activists. Something tells me that short of a fork, neither will happen.
@@hcolider2817Finally someone brings up an actual issue
You look so good in this video, I'm wondering if its AI LOL!
Thanks! Just me and my natural beauty ;)
Funny part is they developed Rust to make Firefox better, but it crashes more than Chrome everytime
Завжди захоплений таким прогрессом на цьому каналі з самого початку так само як і Rust став найулюбленішим
Loved the AI.
love u
I'd write my elevator in javascript.
Im mostly waiting for the data and studies that type systems increase bug reduction per hour spent.
As far as I know the little studies ive stumbled into show no difference.
Nevermind this "better everywhere" mindset.
I suspect you are using AI also on your face and shoulders
New insecurity unlocked
@@letsgetrusty ahah that's just my feeling, anyway fun and interesting story💪
I also thought the face movements were AI lol
No one gets job , if you looks online search no one hiring rust developer
I've never come so fast. Wait...
Uh oh
I've never clicked so fast
There are many things I love about Rust: The way I can add crates/dependancies, ownership, borrowing, the scope that keeps and drops codes to ensure safety (expiration date literally). I'm taking a break away from Rust to learn C because I believe taking a leap from Python to Rust is a big leap, there are bound to be unknowns that I just skip away and therefore I might never fully understand Rust. Will definitely return to Rust one day.
I started from java and moved to javascript,typescript to rust and now I've been coding in C for a while..xd
Please don't use AI generated content.
The models are trained with data taken with no consent of the creator or owner, just use stock photos, I'd rather it be photos than AI video.
How do you know what model was used?
Stock photos can be just as much stolen without the consent of their creators, as materials used in AI training. We don't know which model was used, so it's unfair to assume it used unlicensed content.
@@Tiritto_ it's actually very fair to assume, see, in a competitive environment, in order to develop a model just up to par with the rest of the competition, you need to apply their practices as well.
Competition gets data from slack's non consenting users? Better find another social media to get data from, how about reddit?
This isn't a conspiracy, just business interests, whoever tries to be moral is filtered out as their product isn't as useful as other more trained models are, which is also fair to assume as having cheaper data means you get more data per dollar.
And about stock footage being stolen, sure, he can just use some other boring visuals, the actual content and bogdan's opinions are what I'm here for, not fancy shmancy footage.
Rant over lol
Just use modern C++98
Nah C++71 is much better. None of the new fangled crap
Why would you?
Just write assembly
A 25-year old spec revision? Anything older than C++17 is too unergonomic.
do you mean orthodox c++, a standard from at least last decade or straight up bait? we may never know
AI stock footage bad.
real
Am I the only one who thought this guy was an AI generated video ? Because he barely moves and all?
I still don't understand how can a language's compiler be written in it self
You write the next version with the old version.
I wondered the same. Then I saw that Wikipedia has an article called "Bootstrapping (Compilers)" or something like that, which explains the context quite nicely. I'd also recommend the general "Bootstrapping" article, since the pattern is not exclusive to compilers
I'm sorry but programming elevators is really easy. Bad take, like Rust in embedded lol
Ai images looks creepy lol
Prove the title is not just click bait. Where is Rust dominating? e.g. C++ / C# dominate game development
It dominates in both the python and js ecosystems now. Microsoft is migrating to Rust. I don't know, I'm sure there are things where it isn't yet dominant, but that's becoming a shorter list month on month.
I don't see C++ in the Linux kernel
Stackoverflow developer surveys
rust dominates high performance web services, you can see companies like discord and cloudflare shipping new stuff in rust pretty regularly
@@arson5304 If this was an area I wanted to learn and find employment I'd be looking into golang
I really don't like the AI image stuff
Guy literally created a language because of skill issues
CZcams sucks, you worked too hard to sell courses
Is the video of your face AI generated? You’re constantly on the same pose and you generally have the same facial expression. There’s also a fake pan and zoom on the footage that looks weird. Plus your hand only appears in the same spot every time.
The lighting changes are the only things that make me doubt it. I think all the comments about the AI stock footage is just making me over analyze
Hate to kill your suspense here lol. It’s my real face, not AI…yet ;)
@@letsgetrusty that makes total sense. I think I’m just a bit too tired
Not a fan of the AI clips.
Why should you care about AI taking programming jobs when this video is littered with AI generated photos?
Using ai generated stock footage is so silly, just use real stock footage
who gives a shit..?
@@irlshrek braindead response
@@irlshrekwhat ai tools are used to generate stock footage?
@@irlshrekPeople who care about consent
@danwellington3571 Why do you assume AI generated imagery can only be created without consent from the owners of what it's trained on?
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I'm sorry but the use of AI footage is vomit inducing, good work on the writing, but it's really a bad sight to behold
...should I compliment you on the writing? I wonder if AI was used there as well, which is fine, but in that case my compliment wouldn't really matter
Please don't do AI generated B-roll.. it looks bad and is completely unethical. Show us your face ! Use actual stock footage ! That stuff had nothing wrong with it to begin with !
Except... it did not and never will.
Cope and seethe
why not, giant companies are already switching over: google, microsoft, amazon, cloudflare, discord. if you browse their blogs, you can see that they're releasing things in rust pretty regularly
@@danwellington3571 The only seething and coping that I ever see are the corporate fanboy shills who arbitrarily and incessantly go off about how much better rust is than every other language. This kind of behavior doesn't win any victories.
@@danwellington3571 dilate rustranny
@@danwellington3571 dilate
ai generated videos make me feel sick. I can't watch the video
Did you AI generate the script for this video? Why should anyone watch this?
While I haven't no problem with AI ethics, this one is bad. Fix it and keep it, the faster people get used to it the better
This language is horrible. I feel sorry for those who have to work daily with it. Language is a tool and must make the work easier. Fortunately we now have LLMs to do the hard work. Only good thing about rust is the error messages, but other languages should do similar to rust in near future.
Well. It is better than C++ of couse.
why is it horrible? at least for me, it makes the work easier for me :D
@@crimsonmegumin it takes a while to reach this level
Still don't like rust
why even stop by then?
Rust is not going anywhere. It is not good for gaming development, where C++ is king, and it will continue to be. It is not good for distributed system, where BEAM (Erlang and Elixir) is a much better choice. As for kernel development, yeah, maybe, but Zig has a better support for C, and so it is probably more suitable to develop drivers or kernel modules in general. I am not saying that Rust is bad, but I don't see Rust "dominate" anywhere. It has its own limitations, and it is not much better than modern C++. The borrow checker is cool, but it also forces you to write a program in the way the compiler wants, not in the way you would like, right or wrong your way it is.
why is it not good for game development lol, take a look at the bevy project and the whole ecosystem behind it.
both cloudflare and discord beg to differ on distributed systems, they have many blog posts about load balancers and services with so many pros with the only sacrifice being time.
your third point is only held together by the fact that all current kernels are written in c; inevitably technology will advance and c will become obsolete in this space.
i'll die on the hill of rust being better than modern c++ any day; it comes with all of the abstraction capabilities and more, without the decades of baggage from terrible and redundant design decisions (std::expected & exception handling, c++20 concepts & template metaprogramming, operator overloading, 5 different constructor types, inconsistent behavior among the different compilers, i could go on and on)
rust understands that sometimes you need to bend the compiler to your will given its conservative nature, which is what unsafe rust is for. you tell the compiler that you know what you're doing and it will let you do things like dereference raw pointers, mutate static variables, and all that mess.
@@arson5304 3 seconds to compile a flappy bird sized game is a death sentence for gamedev
It's suitable for kernel and driver programming because of the memory safety hence why we're seeing more and more drivers being written in Rust + Rust in both Linux and NT. It's also becoming huge in high performance web services.
The borrow checker also doesn't force you to write a certain way, it just forces you to write code that isn't dangerous. There is a world of difference there.
It also has it's strengths in drivers, embedded and many safety related projects. And don't forget WASM, sometimes it's way easier to build something for Win/Linux/Mac/Web at the same time, because of wasm-bindgen and cargo.
If someone can see the references as "exclusive mutable borrows" (one at a time) and "shared immutable borrows" it becomes so much easier to deal with the language rules. The trick is not to fight the borrow checker and make use of traits and available features.
Dealing with lifetimes can be the hard part though, so it's better to avoid it unless absolutely needed. But that's more a problem of some libraries and if you really need absolute speed, otherwise not worth most of the time as long as you can avoid it.
@sunofabeach9424 3 seconds for compilation time is bad? That is pretty good actually.
you used damn AI for this video... Shame on you. Shame on you... No to AI
For me, it's even more of a reason to support him.
Please just use stock videos and images. The AI looks like shit
Rust will be abandoned within 10 years. The language makes no sense for 99.9% of cases. And the problem it solves, it does in the most contrived way possible. 😂
Well, let's see in 10 years then. I'm sure you'll just quietly sit by and watch it sink and let people have their fun, right? You're not just a troll, right?
Linus seems to like it
@@danwellington3571 I think the language was barred from the linux repository due to the whole issue with them threatening legal action to anyone who doesn't follow their trite trademark standards, but I don't know if the kernal maintainers followed through with that or not. I hear that there are constant problems with the CoC and terms being written by the power tripping managers running the ship over in Rust, so odds aren't in their favor that people will give preference for Rust in the future with that particularly in mind
@@danwellington3571 for non-low level stuff the combination with memory-safety is important it is a match. But the borrow checker will get superseded within 10 years because it's an unnecessary clunky solution. That's a fact.
why doesn't it make sense for 99% of cases? what do you have to back this up
Two minutes into the video and i'm already disgusted by those awful AI clips. Seriously, just get some stock footage instead.
AI generated images are... 🤮
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