Spider-Man: No Way Home - Nostalgia Critic
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Spider-Man: No Way Home is a 2021 American superhero film based on the Marvel Comics character Spider-Man, co-produced by Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios and distributed by Sony Pictures Releasing. It is the sequel to Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) and Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019), and the 27th film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). The film was directed by Jon Watts and written by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers. It stars Tom Holland as Peter Parker / Spider-Man alongside Zendaya, Benedict Cumberbatch, Jacob Batalon, Jon Favreau, Jamie Foxx, Willem Dafoe, Alfred Molina, Benedict Wong, Tony Revolori, Marisa Tomei, Andrew Garfield, and Tobey Maguire.
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I would love to see Doug review Jonah A VeggieTales Movie and The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything movie. Come to think of it, him reviewing these 2 theatrical VeggieTales films, the 2 Christmas films, and the Easter film would make a great theme month at some point.
May's death.
Since he’s been reviewing so many hand-drawn Disney movies in the past couple of years, I’d be interested in seeing videos on other hand-drawn Disney movies like The Emperor’s New Groove and Treasure Planet just to see what he thinks of them all these years later. Speaking of 2-D animated movies, I would also be interested in him doing one for DreamWorks’ The Road to El Dorado.
Since you also review good movies as well, Do you think you can review Mommie Dearest, Precious and Whiplash?
Can you talk about G.I. Joe Renegades? It was a good show, had some nice callbacks to the 80's cartoon, and it told a better orgin story than the movies.
what elevated it for me was not only did it treat the past spider-men with respect but it gave both of them the closure they really deserved
And it was absolutely worth it.
Because Tobey and Andrew really deserved to be respected and beloved by many people who grew up with them in their Spider-Man films.
They deserved better.
@@jeuryrabassa4724 I like that this movie reminded me what I liked about all three of the spider-mans, they all brought something unique to their versions and seeing them play off each other was the best
@@xxTC-96xx And they were actually great actors in their movies,
Tobey is Calm,Humble,Patient and Independently Relatable.
And Andrew is Cool,Energetic,Funny and Emotional.
And both are Uniquely and Genuinely Responsible for their actions.
Just like Peter Parker/Spider-Man is in the comics.
Tobey and Andrew’s Peter’s had their stories cut short. So to revisit them and try to tie up loose ends was such a great touch.
Saying all their movies never happened is good closure? Ok...
23:28
Tobey Maguire's face there is the manifestation of a father looking into the eyes of his son and saying "Don't do this, you'll regret it." Like, you can physically see that version of Peter Parker channeling his inner Uncle Ben, channeling his memories, just to guide this young and naive version of himself away from a path to hell.
I can't help but feel as though Maguire's Peter has a wife (MJ) and daughter back at home, whenever I look at him
@@danielanderson8322 Mayday Parker cameo when?
@@danielanderson8322 doesn't he say something like "we figured it out", when the others were lamenting that being Spider-Man makes relationships hard? If you draw a line from the hopeful ending of Spider-Man 3 to this the implication is strong, that he is (at least close to being) Spider-Dad.
@@danielanderson8322 I love that idea
I also love how he doesn't come across as angry, more as "I get what you're doing, but it's a mistake!"
20:00
"A lot of people say this film was redemption for Andrew Garfield but you're wrong, Garfield was always great"
*FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT!!!*
Not a redemption for Andrew, no. But for his Peter.
Agreed, his Peter deserved more movies!
Hm, sounds kinda dirty when I say it like that!
GOAT Spider-Man. His scripts just sucked.
It redeemed those trash TASM films.
i always thought he did perfectly fine, i think its the hair, his looks like a young doc brown.
"we...we wont have any memory of you" the fact the strange was actually about to cry because he was gonna erase everyone's memories of peter makes the scene a lot more powerful cause it shows that even though strange doesn't have any sort of close bond with peter, it still shows he still cares about someone's life.
It also shows how much respect he has for Peter for trying, and succeeding, to help fix all the villains after he'd resigned to just sending them back earlier in the film. He understands how good of a person Peter really is.
@@Bajeeebus thank you for summing it up, couldn't think of a better way to say it 👍🥺
@@bignerdproductions3130 no probs boo 😘
he didnt really care until he saw who perter actually was. someone who is willing to erase everyones memory of themselves to save lives is worth a few tears
Also consider his hands, I know that's weird but through the first Dr Strange he had to learn to let go of something that happened that couldn't be changed.
Here's people that are mostly doomed to die, they are the hand issue and he wants partially to teach Peter that some things, no matter how you want to change them, can't be changed. Even moreover because mist of them are unapologetically evil and kinda deserve to die. But Peter finds a way just like he did getting out of the dimension Strange trapped him in.
It gained Strange's respect and maybe a little awe, and he's going to forget that feat along with everyone else.
Willem Dafoe has never been scarier. He absolutely killed it returning as Green Goblin
When he says “Can the Spider-Men come out to play?” And you see Tobey’s expression of fear, you can tell just how much of an affect Green Goblin left on him. I think William Defoe sealed his legacy as the best live action Spider-Man villain with this movie.
one of my favorite actors.His best playing policemans in White Sands and Brodcock Saints.
Have you seen the Lighthouse? He's even scarier there.
@@joechill6327 I haven’t but now I want to just to see Willem Dafoe even more batsh%t scary.
@@jeskerjames3260 I agree with Joe Chill here, absolutely watch Lighthouse for insane, unstable Willem Dafoe moments.
I would honestly just love a film where it’s just Tobey, Andrew, and Tom just discussing their past adventures for like 2 hours, I genuinely love those scenes that much.
Shame there wasn't a fake podcast thing with those three chatting up about it. Now THAT would've been a great marketing idea for the MCU.
Should've had a bonus feature on the DVD where they act out a podcast style round table session where they just talk xD
It's overrated
U say that but that would suck! Some things are better in small doses. And because it was so good we foolishly like you think it would be good for 2 hrs. Which it wouldn't.
Hell yea Nate, im hoping all 3 have some kind of cameo in Across The Spider Verse. 🤘😎
The thing with Sandman isn't that he's all of a sudden evil (he never was to begin with) all he wanted was to go back home to his daughter. Even when he shows up at the Statue of Liberty the first thing he says is "Where's the box Peter?"
the part that doesn't make sense about it though is he's fighting along side the villains, who DON'T want to go home, they want to destroy the box, Sandman wants to get it to send himself (and the others) home. You get the problem now? If anything Sandman should've been helping the Spideys. Shit writing, just like having Electro there at all, considering the villains are all supposed to know who Spider-man is and he doesn't. Lets not forget the easy fix to the climactic solution.... make everyone forget Mysterio and everything he ever said instead. Keep lying to yourself and performing mental gymnastics to justify these things if you want, but there's some really bad writing in this movie.
@@SA80TAGE Honey. Sweetie. Smoochums. Given that you've got the minority opinion and the overwhelming consensus is that the film is superb (particularly the writing), maybe you could be flat out wrong? Possibly? I'm just throwing it out there.
@@Cailus3542 I mean, they do have a point... why not just make everyone forget who Mysterio was and/or what he revealed at the end? I mean sure, Parker may have been acting on emotion and not thinking, but Dr Strange being an intelligent dude should have thought of it.
@@Cailus3542 If i'm wrong then you'll have no problem explaining those plotholes that the movie never does.... sweetums.
Go ahead, continue with your mental gymnastics. I'll wait, but I won't hold my breath.
FYI the entire world made the Bay transformers franchise a billion dollar success where film greats like Malcolm X, ShawShanlk Redemption, The Thing and more all failed at the box office and ripped apart by critics but are now considered cinematic classics... I really don't care about majority opinion, because the majority of movie goers are dumb as fuck and eat up fan service rather than think objectively about the plot.
Case in point, you exist.
@@Cailus3542 I'd also like you to remember this is the same "smart" company that wanted to be PC and inclusive, yet wrote a Latino character who's power is to be the ultimate border crosser.... because that's not racist stereotyping in the least huh? XD
12:55 that scene actually has a double meaning that’s so perfect, when Norman smashes the Goblin mask, it was keeping the Goblin persona at bay, but with it gone that persona was able to take control over Norman much more easier
Interesting fact: doc ock’s artificial intelligence program in his legs is actually a reference to the biology of an actual octopus. Octopus have 9 brains. A main one in their head and one for each tentacle. So doc ock’s ai in his arms makes sense not just contextually, but biologically as well.
its a bit of a reach imo, despite what I found online
"Octopuses have 9 'brains'. One central brain is used for overall control. At the base of each arm is a group of nerve cells which can control each arm independently, acting as smaller brains."
theyre clumps of nerve cells. theyre not actually other brains. still cool as hell, but yeah.
That is very interesting
"Octo"
"9 brains"
ONE JOB
And this is why i love Spider-Man 2 (2004).
Sam Raimi knew what he was doing.
"Arms". Not "Legs", Not "Tentacles", They're Arms, or so the marine biology community keeps saying. Sorry to nitpick, but you started it with the whole "multi-brain cephalopod biology" fact. ;P
Willem Dafoe was absolutely perfect in this movie. He really is the definitive Green Goblin.
Great Norman Osborn too
No One Will top em
@@DiegoHernandez-xt2su Come on, you had one job! lol
@@maximilianoantonio484 “I’m something more of a scientist myself” (I already fixed it)
You're gosh darn right! He's honestly my favorite Spider-Man movie villain. This movie shows that NO ONE could play the character except for him.
One thing I love about this movie that wasn't mentioned here is that even after Mysterio slanders his name, the people are still divided on Spider-Man as a hero. He has his fans and he has his haters. This is a really important thing to get right about the character, and this movie succeeds in giving us that
It's definitely one of the best MCU movies out there and it really made every prior live action Spider-Man movie feel essential in driving the story for No Way Home.
@Carterb92 lol "Uncharted"
Meh
My interpretation of Sandman's motive wasn't that he was turning back to evil but that he was deciding to giving up doing it Peter's way. All he cared about was going home back to his daughter and unlike the others he wasn't fated to die. Once everything started to fall apart at the apartment, he left to find the box so he could prematurely push the button.
Still--if he HELPED Spiderman he'd have gotten what he wanted AND been cured. All for what, a 2 hour delay to get cured?
@@gaelofariandel6747 Flint didn’t get the way he did by making good decisions all the time.
Yeah I feel like he's the type of "going with the flow" guy. Seeing almost everyone seems to be against Spiderman now, in like 3v1 or 3v2 scenario, might as well join the winning team.
@@gaelofariandel6747 I mean does he want to get cured? It looks like he isn’t suffering or sad that he’s literally made of sand, I think he’s just used to it.
@@astropunch7708 Honestly, he and Max didn't really need a cure. Just an attitude adjustment. Osborn, Octavius, and Connors on the other hand definitely needed a cure.
I love the look on Andrew's face when he saves MJ from falling. He makes up for not being able to save Gwen, and seems to forgive himself for that mistake.
That scene was amazing. I didn’t cry when Aunt May died……but I cried when Peter 2 saved MJ. And it’s all because of Garfield.
He says so much without saying a word in that scene.
i cried in theaters at that scene, and cried AGAIN when the clip was shown in this review. He REALLY sells the look.
I was absolutely not expecting that moment of redemption for him, and once I saw MJ falling and Tom get knocked away, myself, my partner and our friend all fell silent, but broke out sobbing at his look to her. Andrew's Spidey deserves more love!
In theaters when I saw MJ fall I said "please let Andrew have this." Then Tom leaps for the save and I was like "well yeah, that makes sense." But when Tom gets intercepted and they cut to Andrew I stopped breathing. And I didn't take in a breath until MJ asked if he was okay, and that breath was a sob.
While on paper it was genius to add that moment, the way it was executed, it kinda felt alittle flat for me, but glad it worked for you
That moment when Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man saves MJ, the look on his face, the emotion. That one got me, that one made me shed a few tears.
i do disagree with most though. he wasn't thinking of gwen or reflecting on his past as much as just going weak from relief he wouldn't have to watch another spiderman go through that
I love how they kept the inconsistency of goblins pumpkin bombs. They can blow up cars and the buildings pretty easily yet maguire and holland survived one exploding in their faces
That’s still pretty consistent. They can throw cars and punch through concrete. They’re stronger than even most superhumans in Marvel.
Weird way of spelling "consistency"
Tom: "She told me that with great power"-
Toby: "Comes great responsibility"
Toby: "What how you know that"?
Andrew: "Uncle Ben said it. I- In full sentences."
Ouch.
And much angrier sounding
Gilbert Gottfried :When you have power you should use that power to help others because that's good
Peter's astral form actually shows the _spider-sense_ as wavy lines around his head similar to the comics. Although the film doesn't address it, his spider-sense in comics is often considered his most powerful ability. It's like Goku's Ultimate Instinct or Obi Wan's Form III (Soresu) whereby being completely serene and undistracted makes them practically untouchable. Also recall the ending of _Far From Home_ where Peter can't even see the drones but by surrendering himself fully to his spider-sense and acting instinctively, he manages to counters them all.
Oh yea, I didn't notice that the first time; it's a very subtle effect that looks like a heat ripple or astral halo and is easy to miss.
Actually according to Stan Lee Daredevils sense is far more powerful. He can feel the world around him within a certain radius all at once in real time. Peter only beats him cause he has ridiculous speed and strength. Peter would get dumpstered if not for his Spider-Sense giving him enough time to avoid the danger. Take away Peters speed and it's useless.
His spider-sense is why Spidey quips and jokes around during fights. He relies on his spider-sense to dodge attacks so he doesn't have to pay close attention to what his opponent is doing. And, of course, his banter also helps throw said opponent off-guard and get frustrated so they make mistakes.
@@Krendall2 Isn't the other reason he quips during fights because he's scared? Quipping is just a way for him to cope with the threat he's facing.
Meh. Spidey's was an original. In Dragon Ball and Star Wars cases, it was fans that couldn't let go influencing the properties into their current zombie forms.
14:22 i don’t care what anyone says, he would be spot-on for the Joker in a batman movie
Everyone says the same.
I saw similar opinions on basically every video that features Willem Dafoe, so I doubt that you'd find a big opposition to that viewpoint.
Sadly we don't always get what we want.
@@Jutrzen well, i’m happy about that but why would he prefer to play a decoy Joker? I heard him say he’d like to be something like that with Joaquin Phenix
He'd make a perfect William Afton
For me, the best thing about this movie is the ending. Just seeing Tom’s Spider-Man dive head first into this new stage of his life that feels a lot more akin to comic Spider-Man, wearing that comic accurate suit to Michael Giacchino’s beautifully bittersweet score was just otherworldly satisfying. It’s by far the best ending to a Spider-Man movie and my favorite ending to a superhero movie.
Sandman doesn’t really go back to being “evil.” After the apartment fight he stops caring about anyone else & just wants to press the button on the box to send himself home
Then it's weird the other villains never attack him and work with him easily, since he's essentially trying to kill them all
@@bigfatcarp93 yeah, not saying it’s solid motivation but it’s something & we still gotta have 3rd act battle
@@bigfatcarp93 Electro drops a scaffolding on him…
They’re not really working together, they never actually team up aside from that one jumping shot and that was for the trailers
@@bigfatcarp93 In fairness, I don't think there's much of anything they could do against him. Definitely not Lizard, maybe Electro but he was pretty preoccupied with the Spider-Men, and by the time the other two show up he was cured anyway.
Andrew really stole the spotlight for me. That’s nothing against Tobey he’s always been a personal favorite, but you can tell Andrew went all in on this performance plus he had a better script to work with.
I agree. Even though I think it was great to see Tobey again more than Andrew, Andrew shined more than Tobey did and stole the show. Though Tobey wasn't bad at all and he had his moments too.
nah to me Willam Dafoe stole the film
Andrew's reaction to saving MJ is one of my favorite moments in cinema.
@@tyrant-den884 I personally think it could have been done better. Bear with me for a second:
MJ should've had a POV of the falling just after missing Tom's hand, and a black screen to represent she closed her eyes just before hitting the ground. Then, in the dark, Andrew shoul've asked "are you ok?". A third person close-up shot goes far away as MJ's face, she opens her eyes, scans the sorrounding in panic and relief. She says "Y-yes". After a gulp, focuses in Andrew's face and lingers a couple of seconds just before asking him "Are YOU ok?". Then, in that moment is when the shot is far enough to see Andrews face AND JUST THEN takes that 4 second of magnificent acting, nods his head and responds "Yes...Now i'm ok".
I think that "Now" would made the scene a little bit better, even though fans already understands the implications.
I felt like it was Peter 3's redemption arc. He couldn't save Gwen but he saved MJ.
Best scene of the film for me was Maguire and Molina getting to have a face to face moment.
Seeing those two interact again was so heart warming.
Trying to do better
26:42 Im not crying, you're crying....
This part was really well done.
Had to scroll too long for this.
@@Nube-Gamer its basically a small homage to Gilbert because... he passed away
@@CarlosThadeu oof. Rest In Peace that legend
@@Nube-GamerAll three of them. 😢
That scene when Garfield saved MJ, and the look on his face was one of the best scenes in the entire movie
*cinema history
To people who haven't watched TASM2, that would seem like an overacted scene.
To people who have watched TASM2, that was a perfectly acted scene.
That was one of the best scenes in the film, and I hated everything about the Andrew films. But in one moment he was able to touch on the character that he was, while giving those like myself a reason to cheer on his closure. Very smart to put it in and rely on Andrew to express it all in one expression.
@@Dorraj I didn't watch the TASM2, and I found it a perfectly acted scene. I immediately realised what must have happened to his MJ (it's a classic spider man scene in the comics after all), and it punched me right in the feelings.
@@shindean "hated everything about the andrew films"
you a kid or something? the first one specifically is objectively the best of the Sony Spider-Man films in terms of quality of writing and content.
One of the things that made this movie so good is that the cameos (particularly Tobey and Andrew) are not just fan service. They serve the plot, and the story and themes would've played out differently without them. I think the best example is the rooftop scene with the three spidermen talking about their Uncle Bens. That scene to me really cemented the theme of with great power comes great responsibility in a way that would've been different if Tobey and Andrew weren't there.
let's not lie it doesn't make sense how they come like Ned bringing Andrew made absolutely no sense
@@tatakosani2531 How does that not make sense? It follows q foundation of logic set up by the rest of the movie. If it 'doesn't make sense' none of it does.
Same for Dr Strange, he's not just a cameo but does have a real arc, like the critic says.
@@leovk5779 Exactly!
@@tatakosani2531 Ned used magic to find "peter parker"...he just wasnt specific about which peter parker
I still can't watch the scene where Garfield rescues MJ without tearing up!
I do really like that Strange has become emotionally jatted after End Game and everything with Tony. It makes sense and is pretty subtle change that no one mentions.
My favorite thing of the movie is how it's banned in China and it's still MCU's third highest grossing film.
Why was it banned?
Are you an executive at Sony?
@@resikin ?
@@resikin how does it affect the earnings of the movie?
@@RockLou apparently it’s bc of the Statue of Liberty but Sony wouldn’t remove it so it’s banned
18:25 the impression I got from the movie was that Sandman wasn't 'going evil', but rather chose neutrality. He's only in it for himself, he made it clear; at first curing everyone to get sent home seemed the fastest way to get what he wanted, but when the others went rogue, he decided the fastest way would be to just press the button by force
Edit: mistakenly said destroy the box, which wouldn’t have sent them home
He didn’t want to destroy the box at all. He wanted to get home to his daughter
@@killdalamb3357 maybe I’m misremembering, but wouldn’t destroying the box send them home? Maybe it was pushing the button he meant to do? I don’t remember that particular detail lol
@@NicholePV I just watched it again. He wanted the box to press the button and go home. Everyone else wanted it destroyed because they wanted to stay. Spider-Man wanted to cure everyone before they sent them back.
I just don’t think the writers knew what to do with him. He shows up friendly, “Hey Peter, it’s me!” Which doesn’t seem like his character at all.
Probably had a lot to do with the actor never being on set.
@@goldfishprime Let me help you. He told him that because at the end of Spider-Man 3, Peter Parker forgave him for killing his uncle. Then sandman fades in the distance. They were on good terms after that. He wasn’t a “bad guy” in peters eyes anymore. So when he saw Peter again in no way home he assumed it was his Peter and wanted to help him. They knew what they were doing.
I was just so excited to see William Dafoe in a Spiderman movie again. He hasn't changed at all and is just as active as he was nearly twenty years ago! I mean, his acting in the Spiderman movies has always been phenomenal, but he just completely stole the show in No Way Home!
They say he even did his own stunts in the film (in fact, it was one of his conditions to reprise the role.)
That is so cool! Especially for a guy who is almost 70! He has stayed in great shape!
This movie was everything to me. Spider-Man always has and always will be my favorite superhero. Maguire's Spider-Man was my first superhero movie, my first PG-13 movie, and Spider-Man 2 was my first hyped movie that I looked forward to seeing in theatres. Garfield's Spider-Man is my favorite iteration of Spider-Man when I take off the nostalgia goggles, and I am so glad people are finally seeing what I have seen since 2012. Holland's Spider-Man I have always loved, but despite the Mysterio scene and the one-offs in team up movies, Holland's films were kinda lacking. Now, despite his two predecessors, this film was still his, and his character development made me love him undoubtedly just as much as Maguire and Garfield. I just love Spider-Man, and despite the few setbacks, this film is definitely my favorite Spider-Man film. Spider-Man 2 is still an extremely close second.
Into the spider-verse for me hands down best by far
I love that the scene where Norman smashes the mask matches one of the most iconic Spider-Man moments of all time. Seeing Norman walking away from his mask in the alley like seeing Peter walk away from throwing out his suit
Cue Norman Osborne doing mundane activities while “The Raindrops Keep Fallin’ On My Head” plays.
@@hunterolaughlin except because he is doing mundane stuff like "trying to go home only to realize nothing is there" it goes instantly sad
that's why i liked the mask being broken
they did it in a way both haters and fans of the mask can enjoy
I'm also glad the critic referenced that Weird Al Song Ode to A Superhero
Fun fact about the soulless reflexes moment. You can actually see the squiggly lines of Peter's Spider Sense around his head while his soul is disconnected and moving on its own.
I’ll have to rewatch. Couldn’t see so good in this video.
@@SuperArtie me too!
However nostalgia critic's "spider-man's spidey senses" thing is correct according to the comics. See, in the multi-verse (regarding spider-man In the) all spider-men are connected through space, time and dimension by the webs connected through the influence of someone by the name of Cassandra Web or in some cases "madame web". In into the spider-verse that is why miles and Peter can sense each other's spidey-senses in each other's presence and why since miles was the newest and least in tune, his spidey-senses always reacted a little later than the other's. If spider-man in the mcu is going that route, Peter's soul leaving his body and his spidey-senses still being active makes a lot of BS-sense (basic spidey-sense, for those young ones)
22:37 To be honest this was one of my favorite scenes from the film, Andrew Garfields’ Spider-Man saving Tom Hollands Spider-Mans’ girlfriend. It heartbreaking and heartwarming at the same time. Even though that Andrews’ version wasn’t able to save Gwen in time, he learns from that mistake and saves MJ. Just seeing him about to break down, after saving her. He knew that if MJ died, Toms’ version would’ve ended up like Andrew. Like he said when they met. How he tried to move on, but he was pulling his punches. Just like we see when Toms’ version was going to kill the Goblin.
10000000000%
Also just the relief and closure it gives him, even though he'll never be able to save Gwen, he can still save _someone._
How in the world did you not even MENTION the part with Tom, Andrew, and Toby just chatting to each other, asking about Toby not having web shooters, and Toby pumping up Andrew since he was the most hated. Arguably one of the best scenes in the movie.
15:07 Dr. Strange: “I became a Doctor to save lives, not take them.”
Also Dr. Strange: “Parker, it’s their fate.”
It’s basically “I’m not gonna kill you, but I don’t have to save you”
Strange's stance is pretty clear and understandable, he doesn't want to mess with the multiverse because he doesn't know what the consequences might be. Altering the timeline of a single universe once is messy enough and Peter is talking about altering the timelines of two universes multiple times simultaneously.
It really makes me happy when Doug reviews a film he really likes. You can hear the passion in his voice. I honestly think Doug is at his best when he reviews movies he likes.
Agreed, hope he does more reviews on films he really likes
Nahhh. His criticisms are wayyy more entertaining.
I agree, these Nostalgia Critic reviews are my favorite.
I highly agree, usually reviews of films he dislikes he would usually do just to make jokes and such, make fun, but not much of anything actually to take away
Films he hates meanwhile like pearl harbor he was definitely passionate about telling why it was horrible, and then the point you made, films that he really likes he's passionate to explain because he has something to say on why it's so great to him
@@popcultureenthusiast5587 Someyimes he does have something to say that nobody else really acknowledged on said bad films, but I do think it is a special treat to see him review these movies that are either underrated to great.
Willems performance was MILES ahead of the rest of the actors, truly the best MCU villain to date
Molina and Foxx were right there
Morales?
He not a mcu vilain.
@@ultimatespider-man5170 😂
@@ZBVLN What funny?
This movie was one of the few movies I've seen lately that genuinely made me happy. Seeing all three of them on screen at the same time was just glorious
Ok
"He says it never hurts to help, then spends a lifetime getting hurt."
Moral of the story, being nice sucks.
Makes since to me
If nobody is nice, life isn't worth it.
but you do it anyways, because its the right thing.
well Peter's ENTIRE character has always been "being nice sucks but ya gotta do it anyway because it's the right thing to do"
Evil always wins
One of my favorite details from the movie is when you hear Goblin say “Can the Spider-Man come out to play ?” And if you listen close enough you can hear the Raimi Spider-sense sound
14:02 Well, on a video by CinemaWins, it turned out that the serum for Norman didn't work because it was still charging in an earlier scene while he and Peter was working on the cure for Doc Ock.
Aa cool as seeing Tobey and Andrew come back, my freak out moment was seeing Charlie back as DD. DD is my favorite comic book hero and it was Charlie's performance that made me fall for the character and got me to start reading comics
23:00 I agree with NC that this scene stands out because of the actors present. If Andrew was there in place of Tobey, people would still invested, but it’s not his Goblin. We have so much buildup from previous films (both MCU and Raimi) that this moment feels earned so well. It feels like something you can see in live-action and it’s a great payoff to not only Holland, but Maguire as well.
Plus it calls to mind Spider-Man 3 with May's talk about how revenge can be a poison. Tobey knows it's not worth it.
While I do like Spiderverse more, this movie is phenomenally well done. The effort put in by the actors is great, the way they add in most of these characters without feeling awkward or rushed(barring the lizard). I think this is one of Marvel's best films. My only note being that I really wish they gave the lizard a snout he looks very off-putting and incomplete without one.
Electro has an in-universe/in-multiverse explanation for why he looks different.
The Lizard would not.
They are not the same.
I didn't even think of the comparison before this review because it was such a well done movie. It doesn't matter if the concept lacked originality, because what it did accomplish was unique and creative enough with that same concept.
21:25 LOL exactly what I was thinking
I walked into this movie completely blind (I didn't even watch the previews) and it was the most awesome thing I've ever watched recently.
Since he’s been reviewing so many hand-drawn Disney movies in the past couple of years, I’d be interested in seeing Nostalgia Critic episodes on other hand-drawn Disney movies like The Emperor’s New Groove, Hercules, and Treasure Planet just to see what he thinks of them all these years later. Speaking of 2-D animated movies, I would also be interested in him doing one for DreamWorks’ The Road to El Dorado.
And Pinocchio
Or Rock and Rule
Yes, he has a disney-cember playlist talking about his thoughts on all those and many more.
I think road to el dorado is in the dreamworks-uary playlist.
Although he has made NC episodes out of some of those so someday, probably
Hand drawn Disney movies were amazing movies!
The emperors new groove is my top one from nostalgia critic. I hope he gives it a fair shake this time around
To quote Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park: "He did it, that crazy son of a bitch finally did it!" I can't believe you guys finally did it!
The astral projection thing is definitely drawing on more of how the Spider-Sense works in the comics. It doesn't just go off when he's about to get punched in the face or something, it can detect if someone's about to see him with his mask off, helps guide his web swinging so that he doesn't latch onto something that will break away, and even works while he's asleep or unconscious, to the point where he can get knocked out mid-swing and it'll swing him to safety.
For me, this movie will be a masterpiece for one reason: it helped me understand and get through my grandfather's death. I was still in denial about his death when I saw this in theaters. When Aunt May died, I understood that she wouldn't be showing up for the rest of the movie. She would be completely absent, from Peter's life and life in general. The movie lost a cast member. And that really helped me understand that my grandfather wasn't going to be there anymore. He wouldn't be in his usual spots; there would be an empty spot for the rest of my life. I'm so grateful for this movie and that I saw it when I did.
To quote the late great Norm Macdonald and something i'm sure Tom Holland might be thinking about is “There are two things which a man should scrupulously avoid: giving advice that he would not follow, and asking advice when he is determined to pursue his own opinion.”
That Gilbert Gottfried comparison took me back to reality damm, still sad he is gone now.
He’s still around in other universes. And even though he’s gone in ours, it’s like with Robin Williams: he will live forever in our hearts
I actually forgot they were all gone. What a slap in the face from reality
For me, Sandman wasn't "evil", but a true neutral that was picking what seemed best for him. All he wanted was to see his daughter again, and almost every father I've seen in cinema usually goes that route.
Chaotic neutral then!
Everyone said that there would never be another MCU film with the same level of hype and anticipation as Avengers: Infinity War or Avengers: Endgame. Spiderman: No Way Home showed otherwise and that there is still tons of magic and juice left in the MCU. And I can't wait for what comes next now that we are on the road to a potential Secret Wars showdown with Kang The Conqueror.
Avengers 5 and 6 had just been announced.
I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again. This really was a miracle of a film. From Charlie Cox’s cameo to get us excited about his continuation of his character like we all wanted, to Tom Holland’s Peter’s personal and physical growth to becoming a more traditional Spider-Man which is what his character really needed, to seeing both Andrew and Tobey’s Peters and their villains to give them a sense of finality and giving us the audience a greater appreciation for everything that’s come before. I still can’t get over that this actually happened!
My thoughts of the three Spider-Men
Tobey's struggles were relatable.
Andrew's was the funniest.
Tom's was the closest in age and was actually allowed to show how smart he really was in this trilogy.
This movie was phenomenal and everyone (especially Willem Defoe as GG) did an amazing job!
It's extremely refreshing to see that Marvel kept to making their villains a lot more compelling even post-Thanos. Phase 4 has given us some incredible villains like Raimi-Green Goblin: Ghost (though she's not really evil), Mysterio, Wenwu (easily my new favourite MCU villain), General Dreykov, Arishem the Judge (who's not really a villain but is an antagonist), Kingpin (officially returned in the MCU and is just as great as before), Arthur Harrow and Scarlet Witch. Christian Bale as Gorr the God Butcher also looks to be a very compelling villain and what they do with Kang the Conqueror will be interesting to see!
I can only hope they keep this up because there's so many amazing Marvel villains to choose from; Doctor Doom, Galactus, Mephisto, The Chameleon, The Enchantress, Madam Viper, the Marquis of Death, Mister Sinister, Carnage and Black Cat to name a few. The hero and villain should be equally interesting and it seems like they've taken the criticism to heart, which is what a good studio should do.
18:40 I disagree. Sandman’s motivation in the film is that he wants to go home to his daughter. Honestly if I was him and all the bad guys started leaving I would peace out too and join them. It gets him home quicker
but they want to destroy it preventing him from going home. peter wants to fix the others then send them home. it's better for him if he can push it now but he absolutely has to avoid the other villains getting it
Still remembered the whole theater literally erupted, once with tobey, twice with andrew, thrice went all three Spidey took center stage 🤘🤘🤘
Willen Dafoe really stole the scene as Green Goblin. He truly owns the character !
My guess for the Lizard staying behind was because he had so little confidence in Peter’s plan and his doubts led him to staying behind. And when he says things like “And so it begins..” he knew something, anything, was gonna go excruciatingly wrong.
Fucking Finally someone mentions this
also, real life reason was probably because the whole thing of curing him was done in his debut film
him being involved more is just repeating his arc
the only thing we could have gotten out of him that wasn't a repeat would be doc ock asking what happened to connors (given connors and ock were friends in the raimi-verse films), and ock asking "what would his wife and son think of him" and webb-verse connors wondering "what wife? i was married in your universe? but.... who could have loved someone like me?"
that way, at least a version of him would have his family from comics and maybe just add a little something to webb-verse connors
Peter's impact on Strange is made even more apparent and meaningful after you see Multiverse of Madness.
I just love all 3 of the Spidey's adorable chemistry. Like when Tom was showing the Spideys of his webslinger and Toby being confused of why they needed devices when he can produce webs naturally from his wrists and they were just in awe of saying "U SHOT A WEB OUT OF YOUR HANDS?! HOW DID U DO THAT?!" It was honestly such a cute and funny moment also of their conversation on the Statue of Liberty of their adventures and Tom and Toby saying they had black suits and Garfield saying "I never had a black suit." And felted left out was so cute. But also HONEY U DON'T NEED IT IT WILL MAKE U DO QUESTIONABLE THINGS!
I will say this about this Spiderman in my opinion, they finally made Spiderman more aggressive while also still having him enjoy life which sure the other films did do Amazing Spiderman did it well in my opinion but i always felt like Andrew Garfield kind of just didn't his job seriously. Like sure there were moments where he did show he could be Spiderman and he could except that fate of being a superhero and having to feel the highs and lows that come with being a superhero especially when Gwen dies.
I’ll gladly live in the universe where Gilbert Gottfried is still alive
I’ll gladly live in the universe where BOTH Gilbert Gottfried and Robin Williams are alive.
@@hunterolaughlinYour wish is now granted I will now transports you to the realm where Gilbert Gottfried and Robin willaims are alive but in this dimension humans shit 20 out of the 24 hours of the day it rains 20 days of the month and the rain is acid and Taco bell is consider a 5 star resurant which is likely results in the first part of the curse
@@NEVETSGILBERT1233 I wish to be back to my original dimension.
Too soon
15:45: "We're still here, by the way."
18:13
In defense of the movie, they made it clear that all of them were only partially convinced, they all had their reservations, some of them are just going along with it, some of them are just there cause this is in their best interest, and others (pretty much just Osborne) are absolutely against it but their alter ego want to change.
When their initial convictions are that shaky, it makes sense that it doesn’t take much for them to change their minds.
This was literally the first movie that me and my dad had ever saw in theaters because of the pandemic so thank you for taking your time of actually reviewing one of my favorites Spider-Man movies nostalgia critic it's a blast
Every Ryan is Spiderman
I know what you mean. I saw NWH in a theater with my dad and his girlfriend, instead of my usual bunch of friends. And I had to tell him that was Daredevil meeting Peter, May, and Happy.
@@louisduarte8763 agreed on that one on Daredevil
Everybody gets one
Yup. I realised this film was going to be special. So I thought damn the consequences and went to see it on the big screen.
Here's what I realized about what makes No Way Home work.
It's a masterclass in how the fan service, serves the plot not the fans. The movie has goals, stakes and urgency that ensure the movie means something, rather than it being white noise. And if you don't care about the plot, why care about the characters, or anything they do even the cool fun action scenes? There's a huge misconception that character and plot are separate, that you can have one good and the other bad, but that's not at all true. A movie's primary goal is the most important part of any narrative: it must answer the question WHAT. What is it the characters need, what story is the movie trying to tell, what are the stakes, what are the goals, what is the urgency?
For NWH, it's simple: the goal for Peter first, is that he WANTS to fix his life for the sake of his friends/family then it turns into he NEEDS to help these villains because he doesn't WANT to be responsible for their deaths, goals don't need to be big and overarching they can be personal to the character as well. Having a character need to do something or need something in general is always stronger than a want. Doctor Strange NEEDS to just get these people to their universe, or their own falls apart. What are the stakes? Peter needs to get the villains cured before Doctor Strange finds a way out of the Mirror Dimension. Doctor Strange needs to get these people home or the universe goes to hell. There's a ticking clock in we don't know WHEN Stephen will escape to send everyone home, so it creates that sense of URGENCY. Then the stakes turn into something personal for Peter: will he kill Goblin or take the high road?
The urgency is already mentioned; there's a countdown to when Strange could escape the mirror dimension, there's a countdown before the villains do something potentially awful, there's a countdown before it all goes to hell. There are a lot of moments in the movie where characters have to do something under a time crunch and that adds to stakes and adds to the weight of their decision which reveals more of who they are as people to the audience which in turn makes them relatable which in turn makes you root for them. It's all connected. When your movie lacks the core aspect of a plot, *Goals, Stakes and Urgency* it will leave the audience questioning "what was the point"? And that means your movie failed to grab your audience's attention.
No Way Home is more than just spectacle it is the final piece in MCU Peter's story, it is his final journey into becoming Spider-Man and thus it has a reason to exist. It uses the fan service to ensure the plot has those goals, stakes and urgency that make sure the movie means something. Whenever you have a question about why something is happening, if you're unsure of why we're seeing something on screen, it's easily answered by the plot. It is more than just fan service, and that's why No Way Home works, whereas movies like MoM, Fantastic Beasts, Justice League, and Jurassic World fail.
I wouldn't say Multiverse of Madness "Failed"...
@@ShadowSonic2 no it absolutely failed in storytelling. What are the goals, stakes urgency? Let's take a look.
Goal: Wanda wants her kids. She needs America's powers to get to them. Okay.
Stakes: Strange wants to protect America cause if she loses her power she dies. Okay.
Urgency: At first it's give America to Wanda by sundown thennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.............I....uh. There's no real URGENCY. Unlike No Way Home where Strange establishes if they aren't sent back their universe is at risk, here, there's no establishment of what could go wrong with universe hopping. There's literally a character now, that can hope universes, and there's no stakes to that. In Into the Spider-Verse, all the spiders HAD TO GO HOME before they cease to exist. There's a ticking clock on how long they have before they all die. In MoM there's no ticking clock as to what happens if when how Wanda gets to them. It's a cat and mouse game with no sense of urgency. This then causes a problem for the other two parts of the trio, because the goals are all wants, not needs. Here's how I'd write the movie:
*Goals:* Wanda 838 needs to get her kids back from 616 Wanda, or the kids will cease to exist. She enlists the help of America and Strange to do so. Same as ITSV? Sure but it will add stakes. We hear things of incursions, but there's not a thing SHOWN in the film of how that can actually affect the 616 universe other than one time in Sinister Strange's world. There NEEDS to be a sense of urgency in a film like this.
*Stakes:* Bringing it back to the kids, 616 Wanda has them all trapped in another hex like situation. It's nearly impregnable but again there's a time crunch before Strange and the kids are gone. 838 Wanda knows a friend with the Illuminati maybe they can help. America can't really control her powers, which adds to the stakes. What will they do to get the kids back? We need to make it all about the kids, save the children above anything else. It's a stronger plot than stop Wanda from hunting down America.
*Urgency:* again it ties into the stakes of having people outside their proper universes. It's bad. Have America need to make a decision under a time crunch, she hears her own mothers from another universe, will she go to them, or save the kids, will she help Strange when she doesn't know him, what kind of person is she under pressure? This adds to the tension of stopping Wanda from inadvertently hurting her children, and make her much more incensed and stay in her character of never REALLY hurting anyone ON PURPOSE this was set up all the way back in Civil War. Wanda has a decision to make tick tock your kids or your selfish wants Wanda. Now it's strange vs wanda, will he kill her to save the kids, break his hippocratic oath that he was so angered about breaking all the way back in Doctor Strange "I have just killed a man I will not do that again." then we hear his sister drowning, that actually serves a purpose to his story of why he became a doctor, to save lives not take them. He'll stay true to his characterization.
I feel if they had made it so where Wanda already HAD the kids, they needed to get them back to 838 Wanda OR ELSE it would have made for a much stronger movie, and allowed America to really come into her own much sooner rather than just in the third act. I do like her, and want to see more of her, but she was far too passive.
@kdawg1991 I know and that's the problem. She should've started out the movie WITH the kids, then make the stakes incredibly high in get the kids back. Stephen is all about saving people he will not take a life, not unless it's necessary as shown in iWar and NWH. Not unless there's no other way. There was no tension in how he'd handle America because we knew he wouldn't go that far. BUT if they lean into Strange's more....questionable actions such as being willing to sacrifice Tony and Peter in iWar before going with the "1 in 14 million chance" thing, have that choice of save America or kill Wanda (have this choice be under a time crunch of Wanda killing America (she needs her powers without her powers America dies for some reason) during the Wanda vs Strange fight) THEN there's your tension and stakes and urgency.
Agreed. Personally, this is my absolute favourite Spider=Man movie, either in live-action or animation. I'm not saying I don't like Into the Spiderverse or that it's bad. It's just not my favourite. Personally, I think Spiderverse is a bit jumbled, what with all the characters. Honestly, I feel like Peni, Noir and Ham, while funny, aren't really NEEDED in order for the plot and story to work. You could easily take them out and still have the same story.
Also, and this may also be controversial, I honestly don't think it's the best Miles story. Personally, I think the Playstation game Spider-Man: Miles Morales, has the better story. It's more tighter and focused on Miles and his friends and family alone. Even the villain has more of a connection to Miles than they do in Spiderverse.
However, I totally get why this would be people favourite Spider-Man story. I just think they had different goals in mind. Spiderverse was about how ANYONE could be a Spider hero. No Way Home was ALL about Peter Parker and his troubles. Both great stories, but I just prefer No Way Home's a bit more.
Hope I explained myself well here :)
@@TheRibottoStudios "There's no real URGENCY. There's literally a character now, that can hope universes, and there's no stakes to that."
1) America can't control her powers at will at first
2) the urgency is going back to the 616 / sacred timeline universe before, you know, wanda potentially kills wong and the rest of the sorcerers there (remember stephen doesn't know what she is going to do to them and has no way of knowing if time is still running at the same pace).
so the urgency is to find a way back that either is getting help for america so she can actually use her powers, or get a different travelling method
15:54 I'm glad you mentioned all of this because HiTops Films did a review of Dr. Strange and he completely ignore that Strange was an absolute joke in this movie and like there was nothing valuable in No Way Home. But if it was directed by Sam Raimi, he would say how deep and well written he is in NWH.
12:55
"He's scarier without it on!" - Weird Al Yankovic
Well, I'll be damned. Doug finally started reviewing an MCU movie as the Critic.
Yes, I know he already talked about them on Disneycember.
Potential Nostalgia Critic Reviews other of MCU films
Iron Man 2
Thor: The Dark World
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ant-Man
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2
Avengers: Infinity War
Avengers: Endgame
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Captain Marvel
Black Widow
&
Eternals
@@hunterolaughlin I remember in the Sibling Rivalry video on Captain Marvel that came out three years ago, Doug talked about him questioning whether he could do a Nostalgia Critic episode on the movie and said that it just wasn't all that interesting to do. I don't know whether he'll do it or not.
I'm still waiting for him to finish out all the X-Men movies. He has yet to cover First Class, The Wolverine, Days of Futures Past, and the first DEADPOOL.
I will say this when given the right lines and given the right direction Tom Holland can be a incredible actor.
I think I'm in agreement here. No Way Home is my favorite Spiderman live action film. My one concern about it is how it will age. Right now, there's a lot of films that are really trying to hit this nostalgia feeling for films by closing up series or at least allowing us to say goodbye. And yes, there is a lot of stagnation of it. But, with No Way Home, this was my way of saving good bye to Tobey and Andrew as well as the other characters like Dafoe.
I know some people want to have continuance with those franchises but honestly, I think forward is the best way to go. And thats gotta start with Miles Morales.
8:33 Is it really surprising since they already fixed Civil War. They went from the comics making you hate Cap and Iron Man to the movie making understand where both are coming from and sympathetic to both sides.
I'm honestly kind of glad this isn't the end of the trilogy, sure it has had it's downs but for me personally these last three films have been the best we've ever seen Spiderman utilized and he finally kind of feels like he isn't the joke and actually the guy you want to root for you to believe he can do good you also believe he is a kid and he still doesn't know everything in life which i thought the other films kind missed he is still a high school student he is still learning the ropes on how to become a superhero while also learning the risks that come with being a superhero.
The character appearance since civil war to no way home has been a kid being a freshman all way up to his senior year. In the mcu database it says Tom has become the independent Spider-Man at the end of the no way home Arc. No more help.
Tom now independent adult. He still has much learn now. Because you think being a teenager hero is hard wait until your adult hero with no help. A whole new challenge awaits.
Eh, homecoming was probably the worst Spider-Man movie ever made, but far from home and no way home were amazing!
Honestly I do see it as the end of a trilogy. High school is over, his friends are gone, his family is gone... none of his superhero allies know who he is.
Just like the hobbit and lord of the rings are separate trilogies... or star wars is 3 different trilogies.. this film closed the book on nearly every one of the relationships in Peter's life and sets up for a new trilogy/series with an experienced spiderman.
Honestly that's one thing I loved about it. I feel like we got closure for Tom, Tobey and Andrew all in one package.
@@neurohack9038 that’s a bad take. TASM1&2 are abysmal films, from the direction to the writing to the pacing. Absolute dumpster fires. Homecoming suffers from being in the MCU and lacking much personality and style or even consequences but does have the unique feel of a high school 80s comedy
The trilogy is over, I was not into what they were doing with Tom hollands Peter/spidey he had everything given to him and barely struggled, but no way home feels like it was all leading up to this, I look at it now as a origin story trilogy, from how the movie ends, he has no one, no stark tech, no money.. nothing. he’s now truly Spider-Man.
15:51 It's funny that I actually remember Doctor Strange a lot more in No Way Home than in DOCTOR STRANGE in the Multiverse of Madness. Where he gets completely overshadowed by Scarlet Witch; and that's somehow not a bad thing.
21:56 I personally wouldn’t say that at all. Because yes it’s pitch black but for the most part it’s still clear what’s going on most of the time, and this does honestly feel like one of the best areas to have a climax in that fits all of the characters, works with Spider Man’s ability’s, and gives us a space where him and all his villains can fit in without having to worry to much about civilians or this just being another fight in New York City with just smashing into nameless building again. The Statue of Liberty under construction to become The Statue Of Caption America, just fits in so many creative and fun ways all the way through to represent Peters history with the Avangers and a symbol of Justice for exactly what he’s doing and what his meaning behind it is
Also it just looks ducking Awesome all the way through our so that’s cool too
I enjoyed both 'Multiverse' and 'No way Home'. The multiverse was tailor made for those folks that always gripe about a movie not being an exact word for word copy of the original comics. 🕷🕸
I'm honestly so interested and i'm just so genuinely intrigue on how Marvel uses the Multiverse down the line for future films, there's so much that you could do with the multiverse still that we still haven't yet seen or even focus on the mystique of the Multiverse and it honestly be a really cool idea to see it be use more of even just as a plot point its a really cool thing to have that you could use.
That line at the end, about Gilbert working with Bob Saget and Norm McDonald to make a better joke so people would laugh and enjoy it, and the delivery of it.... it brought a tear to my eye. Great work Doug.
...I don't get it, I must admit. What is it about?
@@leovk5779 Gilbert Gottfried, a very well-known comedian (you can find a lot of his acts and work on CZcams) recently passed away. Famous comedians Bob Saget (Full House) and Norm McDonald (Saturday Night Live) also passed away somewhat recently as well.
Under no circumstances would No Way Home have worked (or been nearly as popular) if they hadn’t used the first two Spider-men franchises. They were 100% gunning for the nostalgia effect and it worked. Spiderverse was fantastic and they brought in lesser known Spider-people but they were still technically “new” characters.
No Way Home brought in ones we were familiar with. Otherwise, it probably would have been called out for just being a live action version of Spiderverse.
There's one more cameo that I think would have been fantastic: Topher Grace as the bartender that chats with Venom!
Nooo topher
22:45 Both times I saw this in theaters - the second time for sure, there were people who gasped when Andrew saved MJ, realizing he succeeded where he didn't with Gwen. And that's before the movie cut to him realizing it and crying. You know you did something great when people realize something so meaningful before the characters realize it and everyone's crying.
Also, Peter and Gwen will always be my favorite Spider-Man pairing. I hope one day we'll get a version where they live happily ever after. Technically, you can say they confirmed there's a universe where they do in the series finale of the 90s Spider-Man series, since that Spider-Man goes to a universe where Peter and Gwen are engaged, but right now the only one that comes close is the Spectacular Spider-Man animated series, and it got cancelled before Peter and Gwen got together. Give me a happily ever after with these two, darn it!
The spidey sense responding despite Peter being unconscious is canon in the comics. I think people forgot that because the movies never mentioned it.
Fun info. My brother saw the trailer for Far From Home and thought, “Looks like they’re bringing multi verse stuff into it. Wouldn’t it be cool if they had a movie with Holland, Garfield, and MacGuire?”
He called this in 2018.
I LOVED this movie. The best of the 3 movies no contest. Such a cool little send off to Toby and Andrew's characters. Especially since Andrew didn't get a 3rd movie. Plus, it had Dr. Strange in it.
Same
I will say this it was pretty cool to see 3 Spiderman actors on screen at the same time from two other film series it kind of felt like we were going full circle but also showing new movements at the same time which was awesome to see.
Just to watch this movie in a theater this was definitely the most cinematic Marvel movie since Endgame. Seeing the past actors in the MCU on screen is definitely a treat to those who've been on this ride for the past couple decades. We still love Tom's Spider-Man but as he grows up and learning the ropes from Tobey and Andrew he has officially realized what it really means to be Spider-Man as his past predecessors did.
AND SERIOUSLY THIS MOVIE REALLY NEEDED THAT FREAKING OSCAR!!!!!!!!!!
17:11 because it's his catchphrase.
Other films you could review…
-Shrek
-Madagascar
-Toy Story
-How to train your dragon
-Kung fu panda
I saw Into the Spider-Verse a dozen times before No Way Home and never once thought about them being all that similar. Yeah, it's spider-people and the multiverse but that's certainly nothing new - before Into the Spider-Verse, we were traveling the multiverse in the Spider-Man (1994) animated series and comics before then.
seriously im having a real hard time with the idea that people think Spiderverse did the whole multiple spider-people gimmick first when theres gotta be dozens of examples across media. its like these people have never actually read a comic book...which is probably most fans of the MCU tbh (hah, gottem)
To play Devil's advocate here, one of these mediums is mainstream and more fresh in people's minds and the other is more akin to a drop in the bucket of 90s action cartoons. This is news to me and I might just check this series out now! Also, "Spiderverse" is the only multiverse Spider-Man movie so the comparisons were always gonna happen regardless. I'm glad we all got something out of this movie experience.
15:22 It is his spider-sense as when you see his Astral form upclose, you see the spider-sense wiggle lines on his head so his senses are still in tact even when he’s separated from his physical form.
14:41 This scene weirded me out when I saw it the first time. Seeing Spider-Man helping out his enemies like Green Goblin was unusual to me.
[*]I love that all three of the spidermans get their BIG moments.
Andrew FINALLY got to save the girlfriend HE couldn't save. Finally, FINALLY making the "girlfriend falls to death" thing in Spiderman work.
Holland had his arc be "pushed too far." He finally is pushed to his extreme, and tries to murder the villain, and says goodbye to all the memories he made with his friends' memories.
Toby shows that not all people deserve to die. He tried saving doc-oc in spiderman two, but he died, and tried saving Harry, and the venom guy in spiderman three, but they died. Now, he finally saves a villain, showing not ALL of them deserve death.
Again, ALL of them get their moments, and it makes the film feel complete, for all of them.[*]
I do love how there actually is a Doctor Strange in the Sam Rami movies' universe even though there's apparently no Avengers, since Tobey's Peter had no clue who they were when Tom's Peter brought it up.
It actually makes you wonder which early Marvel movies you could consider existing in the Rami Universe alongside Tobey's Spider-Man.
Maybe the Fantastic Four? Blade? Daredevil?
It's a fantastically fascinating idea that I'm glad this movie brought up and I'd love to see explored further if the rumours that Rami's making a fourth Tobey Spider-Man movie are true and it would make sense Tobey's Peter would investigate into the idea after what he learned from Tom's Peter's universe.
And the revelation that Venom IS going to be a villain in the future, especially since Peter is now in a darker place since he's on his own, was a brilliant ending.
Not that I can say I love everything about this movie.
There's only 3 things in this movie I took issue with.
The first was that everything that goes wrong is essentially Strange's fault.
He never bothered to explain exactly how the spell works to Peter before casting it.
He was well aware of the problems Peter and his friends had been dealing with since it was all over the news daily, yet didn't think for a second Peter might've wanted them to remember him too before he started casting the spell.
Yet, not only is Peter the one who pays the price for Strange's multiversal screw up, but it's treated like it was Peter's fault.
Even the fact Peter's gonna have to deal with Venom (and possibly Carnage later down the line) are completely Strange's fault, because that fragment of the Venom Symbiote wouldn't be in Tom's Peter's universe if Strange's botched spell hadn't brought Hardy's Eddie and Venom to that universe.
Second, the fact Strange says ALL the villains died fighting Spider-Man when that's technically not true.
Sandman's life wasn't ended by Tobey's Spider-Man. He just left after Peter forgave him for Uncle Ben's death.
And Connors didn't die because of Andrew's Spider-Man either. He was cured and then locked in prison.
Now, I suppose Conners could've died after an altercation with another prisoner or perhaps, because Andrew's Spider-Man hadn't done a good enough job with the cure, so the remains of The Lizard we see Connors still has caused his body to go to war with itself, like cancer and he died that way?
But that's just speculation. As far as both those movies were concerned, neither Sandman nor Connors died fighting Spider-Man, so why Strange says this makes literally no sense to me.
The third actually made me feel absolute disgust for the MCU Jay Jonah Jamieson and wish the worst for him in future movies.
When he reports on Aunt May's death, he has the gale to say Spider-Man is selfish and doesn't care about the fact someone's aunt is now dead because of him and the suffering that aunt's loved one's are now feeling because of him... knowing FULL WELL that Aunt May is PETER'S aunt, but talks as if she was someone else's aunt, making Peter feel even worse when he's already at the worst point in his whole life.
It is honestly the vilest thing I've seen in the entire MCU and instantly made me hate this version of Jamieson.
The one in the Sam Rami movies' universe is a good person, proven first by him being willing to keep Peter safe when Goblin demands to know where he is by pretending he doesn't know who does the pictures of Spider-Man at all and again when he admits he regrets pushing Spider-Man away in the second movie.
He actually is a good person, even if he constantly keeps trying to ruin Spider-Man.
The MCU version of him, though?
It may be the same actor, but a COMPLETELY different Jamieson. A vile, heartless man, willing to use the suffering of others solely for his own benefit, regardless of the costs to others.
If something horrible happens to him in later movies, I won't feel the least bit bad for his character.
He deserves whatever horrible fate karma has in store for him.
And, in this MCU, the number and gruesome types of horrible fates to choose from are endless
Jameson being more villain like in this universe i do believe will work seeing how Mac Gargan is just sitting in a prison and he’s yet to become Scorpion and Jameson plays a big part in that character’s origin in the source material. So there’s a chance that whenever we get the 4th film it’ll be Jameson funding the creation of a Scorpion suit for Gargan and potentially have things blow up out of control causing Jameson to have a sort of redemption in the 3rd act, maybe we’ll even get his backstory from the comics or the 90s animated series on why he hates Spider-Man or masked vigilantes in general.
Speaking of Gargan, I do believe that he will also become the MCU’s definitive Venom. Having a second Eddie Brock would be kinda of confusing for audiences seeing how Sony clearly wants to launch a franchise and their own film universe with Tom Hardy’s Venom.
After seeing Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness, Dr. Strange’s variant in the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man universe is most likely the same as Dr. Strange in the MCU unlike Loki’s and Spider-Man’s variants where they’re played by different actors.
Slite correction hellboy isnt marvel its dark horse but I have the same thoughts about daredevils ghost rider and fantastic 4 and blade
To be fair, Raimi Jameson was supposed to be a gruff reporter caricature. He may be a bit of an asshole and a braggart but still on the side of good. Him protecting Peter is him protecting his source.
MCU Jameson is a caricature of those MAGA reporters instead of those legit gruff reporters. Think Alex Jones. Hell, they even had him sell some supplements on his show. Unlike Raimi Jameson, we’re supposed to hate this Jameson
@@Butwhythough881 I doubt seriously Mac gargan will be venom as most fans would rather see him as the scorpion. I think we'll see flash become agent venom though for sure.
I totally agree about Andrew Garfield. He's still my favorite Spider-Man and Tobey is my favorite Peter Parker while Tom is a good mix of them
These videos are always so much louder than any other video I watch, and each one starts with an explosion that almost always blows out my headphones and my ears. Thanks for that.