No script my friend I just talk like you were there. I try to speak a little bit slower as I have a lot of viewers from other countries and they seem to appreciate it 🙏
Stumbled across your channel prior to pulling the trigger on an HP 17t. Very thorough. Appreciate the info on caveats, what it does well, and especially what it doesn't do well in a very objective fashion. Thanks, BoAT!
I currently own an HP 17" Envy that is many years old. I had replaced the HDD with a 500GB SSD and because it has an i7 CPU, 16GB ram and Nvidia 2GB Video card, it works pretty well for my needs. This seems like a good laptop for a nice price. I would probably like to move up to the 4K Video since I watch a lot of videos and real 4K is incredible! Thanks for the video.
@@BobOfAllTrades Hey Bob, ive got the original aero 15w from Gigabyte and one of my usb ports stopped working. it puts out power but not data. what would you recommend for something like this?
Great Review. I got my wife the 2019 Envy 13, and the display (400 Nit), speakers (the best ever), keyboard, build is great for the price. Sips just 1.5 watts total at idle! 10 hours youtube streaming at Max brightness. Only gripe is the plastic trackpad.
Nice, but I still think Macbooks have a slight edge in the speaker quality. Windows laptops have come a long way for sure. It is nice to see some competition.
Hey Bob. Thanks for the awesome review. It is very convenient to have a unit in the house for the family. I really like the recent price to performance ratio that HP has got going on. I've had 4 HP laptops over the course of over 8 years, and other than a couple of battery replacements, they are all still fully functional.
Excellent review. I think you nailed the use case for this machine. I just ordered mine to use around the house when I'm away from my desk. Because I'm always working across multiple documents, I need a big screen.
The HP Envy 17 aluminum chasis and I5 is very nice for the temps it has (not gaming) this laptop for media consumption, productivity, office work, school work and some light gaming in a very sleek solid build for $849 is nice. Very cool review on a mainstream laptop Bob.
HP is the king of the "at home laptop" market. Remember the old elite books? Built like tanks, fully upgradeable, super easy to use for non computer people. Glad to see they've still got it
What an awesome review! Thanks for the humbled approach! I love how this isn't a click bait video. I'm now subscribed and looking forward to more videos! 👍
Thank you so much. Almost bought this device as I mainly wanted to use this for docking purposes. Glad to know that the vents are not properly located for this application. Appreciate your review!
Always liked the Envy series for the strong value it represents. Grateful for this review, but hoping you might get your hands on the 13t in the future; they are compelling little machines for the price.
If you think this 320 nit screen is dim you should compare next to the tier down of screens that are on most of the 15.6 inch envys,, this one is wayyyy brighter,, i did a comparison with this same laptop to my other 15.6" envy x360 10th gen i7 spec'd laptop 1080p,, whoaaa,, who knew 100 extra nits would be such a difference..Also the colors on most of 15.6" envys are very flat,, this one has much more saturated colors
imagine if they made 4 core 8 threads with good IGPU it wouldnt even need a GPU and had thunderbolt o wait its AMD........gna have to wait till USB4....which is probably why they didnt bolster the IGPU.....currently bc no thunderbolt option for external GPU+ryzen......aka The dream with a 2-3 heat pipe 2 fan setup with no heat wasted on a GPU die......well well....
I have the i7 10th gen with 12 gb of ram. For gaming, I use it for RTS, world building, and CCG gaming. It’s more than capable of these games. I even found it can run Fortnite at a solid 60fps at 900p medium settings. Even at 1080p only dropping below 60fps under very intense pressure. I still rather play Fortnite on console, but that just shows you what it can do. Outside of that it’s a solid productivity laptop. The screen is amazing.
I got the 8th gen. i7 version, upgraded to 24Gb ram, 2Tb HDD, 1Tb M.2 SSD. Mine still has a DVD burner which I prefer. I use it for photo editing and I couldn't have been happier with my choice.
Looks like a very good and flexible work laptop. With up to 32gb ram, ssd, ok graphics card, 17inch screen, nice keyboard with num pad, and quiet ( a very underatted feature ) it would be great for AutoCad and other office applications where built in graphics aren't sufficient. With some light fortnite on the side after hours. If there was an AMD in there we'd be raving about this.
Bob, You do an excellent job with how you present your knowledge about the Product!! I hope you are making money with your Channel. This is the first Video I have seen of yours, and I have watched it twice now, (at least a week or two between) and still find it very helpful. I’ve been considering this Laptop for several weeks now, and really appreciate your Review. It is a very High Quality Review, with all of the info that is needed. 👍 Thank you!
First time I ever heard a review. I am 75yrs old...Not tech knowledgeable...I have the 2021 model and if its like the 2020 I am very happy.. Thank you very much for the review !!!
This is a good alternative to a desktop that is portable so it's really good for college students or people who need to bring their desktop with them anywhere. You can connect a secondary monitor for multitasking. For airplane, car, or on the go use then get a tablet.
Nice video. Your passion can be easily seen. If it’s a laptop for the family, maybe consider having some clips of them using it and some quick feedback. I need to feel that emotion/connection if one expects me to buy. Laptop just looks okay but fantastic review
Good to see you! I will not place my family on the channel. Especially my kids and YT freaks out about this anyway. I get enough smoke from them off and on over the last four years for some reason.
Bob Of All Trades btw, the MSI Raider you reviewed and I picked up is running super smooth. So far, it’s been an unbelievable awesome laptop. (Especially for gaming)
In uk the only spec they have is i7, 1TB hhd + 256GB ssd, 1080p touch, 16GB ram and it looks the same. If I get it I’ll carry it round the uni campus no matter how big or heavy. I just care that it has a big screen when I get where I’m going. Love the review. Best one out there for this laptop. 🙏
Really good review! Just purchased this laptop for home office / minor gaming. Based on the review, this laptop checks all the boxes. Thanks Bob of All Trades.
Just bought an HP 17 laptop and I am just blown away with the value I got for the money. My configuration is 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz 2.42 GHz/ 12GB Ram/ 512 GB SSD and FHD for $600. Prior to this I bought a Lenovo Ideapad 3i 17inch for $400. I wanted to love it but while the Intel Core i3 i3-1115G4 has good reviews and can beat some older generation i5 chips, it is still dual core. Plus the system had no ssd, but a 1TB HDD @5400 rpm and the resolution was 1600X900. I just loved the slim form factor. I figured if I've already spent $400 I might as well add some extra to get a system that I will have for much longer. I thought the HP laptop was going to be a big clunker, but boy was I happy when I received my delivery. What a great device for the money! Looks like a premium aluminum build but is also lightweight. Bravo HP!
Thanks. I have the 15" from a few weeks ago, maxxed out everything, and it's pretty amazing for what you said (not family laptop, but it can run some business programs, design, even video editing pretty well). Also it's funny when I'm carrying it and someone thinks "ultraportable!" and tries to pick it up 😂 *The* unforgivable (and I'm using my old Toshiba now because ...the old Toshibas are great) is that LARGE INCH-THICK BOTTOM OF THE DISPLAY that ruins my experience. What the H*II is that even supposed to BE?! UGH! The bezel's okay, but the "HP branding LANDING STRIP" is ...not. It's not okay. There are other foibles (no numlock light on keypad when numlock's on; *function keys are just for "media"* and nitpicky things), but it's fast, the thermals are great (wish the 15" had the 17" lid design - I prop it up at a desk)... but I doubt I'll buy HP again with that ridiculous looking OVER-1" awful evil bottom strip on the display. 😱
I have that laptop but I core i7, DVD Drive, touch screen, and Kill camera switch on the side.. this offered more than the DELL XPS 17 that I was interested in
Just a couple of things in case you are looking for feedback. Audio was on the lower side. I had to turn up my speakers a lot, if it is due to technical limitations you cannot increase it, its okay :). Second thing, would it be possible to include metrics next time? Like the weight and dimensions. Rest is spot on mate!
Hey Bob great review, I want to add some my review experience of this like laptop. I have the 15' pavilion with same chassis style ,keyboard mousepad ... (15-cw00xx). I have it like 2 years with the ryzen apu 2500u , I can say it's a very good laptop all around, I bought it like 550€ at media markt Belgium, great price ! , so the screen is very good 1080p 60Hz ips matte +/- 250nits, keyboard amazing, webcam amazing ,mic amazing , speakers very good for the size of it specially tweaked by bang and olufsen, I tried it generic windows but it sound dull lmao. Just 3 downsides , 1 :mousepad is plastic and the plastic silver paint did come out at the edge of the mousepad (harsh use I guess ), 2 : Well I do game on it while pumping up the tdp(manually "ryzenadj" )but it has a mediocre thermal solution, enough for stock tdp tho. 3 : it has nvme ssd drive "stock version" i wanted to add normal ssd ,there is a place next to battery for additional ssd but laptop came without Instal bracket nor the necessary cable to connect with the motherboard. Have to buy separate for like 60 ish € .... Just last thing tearing apart of this laptop for the first time is a pain in the a$$ hidden screws all over the place... Well I guess I'll pass it down to my little sister when I will buy a gaming laptop, If it still survives 😂😂😂
No doubt about tearing it down I talked about that in the description and I have a bunch of footage of it should I need to make a video. Once you realize the screws are under the rubber feet texted pretty easy.
I bought a maxed out one 4 years ago it's still decent. I actually gamed on it a lot more than I should have.... I bought it because I didn't have the room for a PC in my apartment and I was working from home more often
There were three left paid 950 for 32 GB of ram and 1TB hard drive for my daughter who's going off to college. I checked back 1 hr ago it was sold out. I am so happy that I got it while it was available. Here are the stats HP Envy x360 2-in-1 Touchscreen Laptop, 15.6" IPS FHD, Ryzen 5-4500U 6-Core up to 4.00 GHz, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, USB-C/DP, HDMI 2.0, Backlit KB, Webcam, Mytrix HDMI 2.0 Cable, Win 10.
Glad to see your wallet isnt the one sponsoring your vids now :) hopefully more epic review comes. Btw was hoping to ask if you could make a teardown review for the latest GE75 raider. Also can you share some tips on jow to apply liquid metal safely on such products :) great review!
@@anpowersoftpowersoft you don't need to because they're available at BestBuy. However, they're maxed out at GTX 1660 Ti. Price is also higher compared to other Ryzen laptops. HP will be start selling them from mid July.
Good to see a laptop I would buy for the family. I think the 17inch format makes it a lot easier for people to use it for longer periods. Specially for older people or just people not used to work with laptops. Anyway I missed you opening it! Would have been nice to see the components and see what can be upgraded.
hi just dropping by to say thank you for the undervolting guides and the no-nonsense approach to your videos and tutorials. Turns out my GPU (GTX 1650) runs pretty cool even with 220mhz/100mhz core/memory overclock with my chassis(Lenovo Y7000) therefore gpu undervolting was not needed.
I think the Envy 17 would be better suited if they turned it into a creator workstation like the XPS 17. If it is going to be 6 lbs, probably best just to throw in some serious H-series hardware. Otherwise need to go super light weight like the LG gram and use the efficient U-series.
I went to Best Buy today and saw this laptop. I have a 4-year-old Surface Book 2 and looking to upgrade. I like the 17" screen for my old eyes. LOL I only watch CZcams videos, so not sure I need the 4K?? I like that the Surface Book detaches, but I never really used it or the stylus pen, so I won't miss it. Is there a good competitor to this? Great review.
If they used Ryzen 4900H they would hardly need that extra discreet GPU and the laptop would have much better overall performance, lower power consumption and better thermals
Hey Bob, I have not purchased a p.c. in 20+ years and was wondering if you could make a recommendation, I am going to take some day trading classes and need a laptop. I know I want a big screen, tons of ram, ssd,number keys,and enough of whatever ports hook up extra screens. I don't know anything about brands, possessor speeds- higher is better I guess, I really don't want to spend weeks going down a rabbit hole here. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
I wish 120 Hz screens become standard also for non-gaming laptops . I'm also fan of old school games between 2002-2008. I don't mind if it is a 3:2 screen, it'd be also great. 1800x1200, 1920x1280 or bit more - more compact, less bezels, more productive.
3:2 for gaming - older games? All classics like GTASA, Oblivion, etc. have Widescreen fixes made by the community. Too small viewing angles? - no problem, just increase the FOV.
I need a family laptop; understanding this is NOT a gaming laptop, can it handle Fortnite @ at 60mhz or close to it? Our foster kiddos all play it & I simply don’t want to build another rig with the continued supply chain disruptions and the pricing instability. Any input is greatly appreciated! Be safe, thanks for the hard work you put into your reviews.
Interesting review. But always a bit funny when reviewers let us hear how good the sound is while many people (including me) probably watch the video on a device that has far less capable speakers or speaker.
Great overview, thank you 😊. I love the fact that the notebook is all aluminum. I feel that HP doesn't get credit for the great keyboards they make, even in their budget notebooks. Ravi Peiris M.D.
I have bought one last week. And it is not quiet. The fan is very very loud. Like a jet. And it starts with any simple, non CPU consuming game I start.
I had a spectre 13in OLED , really liked it , but it stuttered when I hooked it up to an external monitor. Not the laptops faulty though , just limitation of the GPU/CPU. Great little bugger though , well built.
I bought this computer and have been using it for a couple of days. One of the things that you should know about this computer that is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL is the lack of contrast between the keys themselves and the letters. In normal light conditions, when you look at the keyboard there is often no contrast at all between the letters and the keys. It literally looks like you are using a keyboard with no letters on the keypads. It is horrible. I am finding that even in daylight conditions I am having to turn on the back lighting just to barely be able to see the letters on the keys. I am going to continue to use the computer for a few days to see if I can adjust to this problem, but if I am consistently finding it ANNOYING to have a keyboard that basically appears to have no letters or numbers on the keypads, then I am going to have return it. The reviewer above did a great job discussing this at the 7:00 minute mark, and I thought "how bad can it be? It can't be that bad, I can see the letters on the pads in the video." IT'S HORRIBLE. If you enjoy having a computer that in many conditions is like having a computer with blank key pads, no lettering on the key pads at all, then this is the computer for you. For me, I HATE IT so far. I hope that I can adjust and get used to it, but the keyboard is a major portion of your interaction with the computer and this keyboard is AWFUL. Sorry to be so negative and ventilate here, but I find this keyboard to have a very cheap appearance. It's like a keyboard that through usage, all of the letters have worn off. This is supposed to be a brand new, nearly $1500.00 with upgrades computer and it comes essentially with lettering on the keypads like an old, used, and worn out keyboard? Basically, this is a keyboard disaster. Truly amazing how well engineered and designed is the rest of the computer and it's coupled with a keyboard that is this bad. IT'S A DISASTER. Thank you.
please give aditional feedback after couple of days if you were able to adjust to this silver keyboard. I'm planning to buy this notebook, so any information would be helpful for me. Thanks
UPDATE: I have been using this computer for a couple of weeks now, and although the reviewer in this video gives an accurate review, I unfortunately have to offer a NO BUY RECOMMENDATION. The keyboard and touch pad are just awful. The touch pad has this flimsy, plastic, cheap feeling and plastic-sounding quality to it which is low quality. The keyboard is horrible regarding the lack of contrast between the letters/numbers and the keypad itself. I did all the upgrades on this computer and dropped about $1500.00 on the purchase only to receive a poor quality product. I had a similar HP 17 inch laptop prior from 2012 to 2020 that I got on sale for $800.00 which I love and very high quality and durable but after 8 years of very heavy use and travel was beginning to fall apart. Very disappointed in this replacement HP laptop. Imagine that you purchased an expensive road bike with all of the upgrades, but where you interface with the bike, saddle, handlebar, shifters are very cheap on an otherwise high quality bike and you can imagine what this Envy is like. This is the first, and last, time that I have ever purchased a computer online without holding it in my hands physically first. One test run with this poor quality cheap computer and I NEVER would have purchased it. Every time I use this expensive but cheap quality Envy, which is all of the time at work, I am deeply annoyed with the touch pad, the keyboard and the cheap plastic sound upon clicking. Every time I pick up this computer to use it, the thing pisses me off that I spent so much money on such obviously crappy quality. This is an otherwise quality computer except where you physically interface with it, and there it is a CHEAP DISASTER. Strongly recommend that you DO NOT BUY.
Yeah, silver keys can be hard to see. Great screen though, great value laptop !
Oh look who's here! Love your vids too
Great reviewer
in a world of 500 buck laptop.. that thing just overprice..
good video, was actually so surprised at those speakers for real. sounded amazing compared to what we're used to
I love how you talk, makes the reviews much more enjoyable , keep it up man!!
No script my friend I just talk like you were there. I try to speak a little bit slower as I have a lot of viewers from other countries and they seem to appreciate it 🙏
Bob Of All Trades I thought you used a script?
I love this laptop; I've always been a fan of the HP 17 Envy, it was a great companion throughout university 👍🏼.
How much hours of battery life did u get?
@@seemafarheen3469 for this i get 10 hours for things like school and when i watch netflix i get 5
Stumbled across your channel prior to pulling the trigger on an HP 17t. Very thorough. Appreciate the info on caveats, what it does well, and especially what it doesn't do well in a very objective fashion. Thanks, BoAT!
I currently own an HP 17" Envy that is many years old. I had replaced the HDD with a 500GB SSD and because it has an i7 CPU, 16GB ram and Nvidia 2GB Video card, it works pretty well for my needs. This seems like a good laptop for a nice price. I would probably like to move up to the 4K Video since I watch a lot of videos and real 4K is incredible! Thanks for the video.
Quality review, I've been eyeing that model for a while to have it as a portable office. Not that I'm moving a lot these days tho' :/
Ha I definitely feel cooped up over the last few months.
@@BobOfAllTrades Hey Bob, ive got the original aero 15w from Gigabyte and one of my usb ports stopped working. it puts out power but not data. what would you recommend for something like this?
Great Review. I got my wife the 2019 Envy 13, and the display (400 Nit), speakers (the best ever), keyboard, build is great for the price. Sips just 1.5 watts total at idle! 10 hours youtube streaming at Max brightness. Only gripe is the plastic trackpad.
Nice, but I still think Macbooks have a slight edge in the speaker quality. Windows laptops have come a long way for sure. It is nice to see some competition.
Hey Bob. Thanks for the awesome review. It is very convenient to have a unit in the house for the family. I really like the recent price to performance ratio that HP has got going on. I've had 4 HP laptops over the course of over 8 years, and other than a couple of battery replacements, they are all still fully functional.
Excellent review. I think you nailed the use case for this machine. I just ordered mine to use around the house when I'm away from my desk. Because I'm always working across multiple documents, I need a big screen.
The HP Envy 17 aluminum chasis and I5 is very nice for the temps it has (not gaming) this laptop for media consumption, productivity, office work, school work and some light gaming in a very sleek solid build for $849 is nice. Very cool review on a mainstream laptop Bob.
HP is the king of the "at home laptop" market. Remember the old elite books? Built like tanks, fully upgradeable, super easy to use for non computer people.
Glad to see they've still got it
Waiting for your review on HP omen 15 AMD varient, love your insights
Me too.
Appreciate the hard work you put into these reviews. Thanks 🙏
i dont understand why HP doesnt make a laptop with this body but with gaming internals. this looks SO clean
What an awesome review! Thanks for the humbled approach! I love how this isn't a click bait video. I'm now subscribed and looking forward to more videos! 👍
Excellent review Bob! Great to see you looking at a non gaming laptop.
I just bought this laptop a few days ago and can't be happier with the purchase. Mine is 17inch 16gb ram 512 SSD
Great review thank you for stressing not a gaming laptop 🤓 - just purchased ✅
Good to know.
You've just described my exact use case.
Thank you so much. Almost bought this device as I mainly wanted to use this for docking purposes. Glad to know that the vents are not properly located for this application. Appreciate your review!
Always liked the Envy series for the strong value it represents. Grateful for this review, but hoping you might get your hands on the 13t in the future; they are compelling little machines for the price.
Bob, I love the clean look of your new videos. Keep at it man. You'll be big soon enough!
If you think this 320 nit screen is dim you should compare next to the tier down of screens that are on most of the 15.6 inch envys,, this one is wayyyy brighter,, i did a comparison with this same laptop to my other 15.6" envy x360 10th gen i7 spec'd laptop 1080p,, whoaaa,, who knew 100 extra nits would be such a difference..Also the colors on most of 15.6" envys are very flat,, this one has much more saturated colors
imagine this with ryzen 7 4600 H, i think it would be a 100$ less, and maybe same or better performance, it would be perfect for me.
I’m not sure if it would be cheaper or not 🤷♂️
The cooler could easily handle it no problem!
Ryzen 7 of any variant with integrated graphics, and HP would have the nerve to spec a worse display screen than the intel variant smh.
Oh yes baby. That CPU would be nice. Also maybe Radeon 5500M/1650 or 1650 Ti would be great.
4600h are better in some important tasks then i9 10875h and this laptop here are basically for watching CZcams videos
imagine if they made 4 core 8 threads with good IGPU it wouldnt even need a GPU and had thunderbolt o wait its AMD........gna have to wait till USB4....which is probably why they didnt bolster the IGPU.....currently bc no thunderbolt option for external GPU+ryzen......aka The dream with a 2-3 heat pipe 2 fan setup with no heat wasted on a GPU die......well well....
Nice review! Looking forward to the Thicc-15 review too if you chose to do it. Seems pretty interesting
It’s not up to me but I would absolutely love to get my hands on it ✋
I have the i7 10th gen with 12 gb of ram. For gaming, I use it for RTS, world building, and CCG gaming. It’s more than capable of these games. I even found it can run Fortnite at a solid 60fps at 900p medium settings. Even at 1080p only dropping below 60fps under very intense pressure. I still rather play Fortnite on console, but that just shows you what it can do.
Outside of that it’s a solid productivity laptop. The screen is amazing.
I got the 8th gen. i7 version, upgraded to 24Gb ram, 2Tb HDD, 1Tb M.2 SSD. Mine still has a DVD burner which I prefer. I use it for photo editing and I couldn't have been happier with my choice.
Looks like a very good and flexible work laptop.
With up to 32gb ram, ssd, ok graphics card, 17inch screen, nice keyboard with num pad, and quiet ( a very underatted feature ) it would be great for AutoCad and other office applications where built in graphics aren't sufficient. With some light fortnite on the side after hours.
If there was an AMD in there we'd be raving about this.
Honest and pretty well explained review!
Good job. And continue producing 😊
Bob,
You do an excellent job with how you present your knowledge about the Product!! I hope you are making money with your Channel. This is the first Video I have seen of yours, and I have watched it twice now, (at least a week or two between) and still find it very helpful. I’ve been considering this Laptop for several weeks now, and really appreciate your Review. It is a very High Quality Review, with all of the info that is needed. 👍
Thank you!
First time I ever heard a review. I am 75yrs old...Not tech knowledgeable...I have the 2021 model and if its like the 2020 I am very happy.. Thank you very much for the review !!!
This is a good alternative to a desktop that is portable so it's really good for college students or people who need to bring their desktop with them anywhere. You can connect a secondary monitor for multitasking. For airplane, car, or on the go use then get a tablet.
Nice video. Your passion can be easily seen.
If it’s a laptop for the family, maybe consider having some clips of them using it and some quick feedback.
I need to feel that emotion/connection if one expects me to buy.
Laptop just looks okay but fantastic review
Good to see you! I will not place my family on the channel. Especially my kids and YT freaks out about this anyway. I get enough smoke from them off and on over the last four years for some reason.
Bob Of All Trades I understand. :) Great review. Not feeling the actual product this time.
Bob Of All Trades btw, the MSI Raider you reviewed and I picked up is running super smooth. So far, it’s been an unbelievable awesome laptop. (Especially for gaming)
In uk the only spec they have is
i7,
1TB hhd + 256GB ssd,
1080p touch,
16GB ram
and it looks the same.
If I get it I’ll carry it round the uni campus no matter how big or heavy. I just care that it has a big screen when I get where I’m going.
Love the review.
Best one out there for this laptop. 🙏
Really good review! Just purchased this laptop for home office / minor gaming. Based on the review, this laptop checks all the boxes. Thanks Bob of All Trades.
Just bought an HP 17 laptop and I am just blown away with the value I got for the money. My configuration is 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-1135G7 @ 2.40GHz 2.42 GHz/ 12GB Ram/ 512 GB SSD and FHD for $600. Prior to this I bought a Lenovo Ideapad 3i 17inch for $400. I wanted to love it but while the Intel Core i3 i3-1115G4 has good reviews and can beat some older generation i5 chips, it is still dual core. Plus the system had no ssd, but a 1TB HDD @5400 rpm and the resolution was 1600X900. I just loved the slim form factor. I figured if I've already spent $400 I might as well add some extra to get a system that I will have for much longer. I thought the HP laptop was going to be a big clunker, but boy was I happy when I received my delivery. What a great device for the money! Looks like a premium aluminum build but is also lightweight. Bravo HP!
It’s a pretty good laptop for the money 👍
I would buy this laptop for editing workloads (photo, video), watching CZcams, and gaming at the end of the day. that's what I do with my PCs
Thanks. I have the 15" from a few weeks ago, maxxed out everything, and it's pretty amazing for what you said (not family laptop, but it can run some business programs, design, even video editing pretty well). Also it's funny when I'm carrying it and someone thinks "ultraportable!" and tries to pick it up 😂 *The* unforgivable (and I'm using my old Toshiba now because ...the old Toshibas are great) is that LARGE INCH-THICK BOTTOM OF THE DISPLAY that ruins my experience. What the H*II is that even supposed to BE?! UGH! The bezel's okay, but the "HP branding LANDING STRIP" is ...not. It's not okay. There are other foibles (no numlock light on keypad when numlock's on; *function keys are just for "media"* and nitpicky things), but it's fast, the thermals are great (wish the 15" had the 17" lid design - I prop it up at a desk)... but I doubt I'll buy HP again with that ridiculous looking OVER-1" awful evil bottom strip on the display. 😱
Melan Choly , do you have the touch screen? What do you think about it ?
I have that laptop but I core i7, DVD Drive, touch screen, and Kill camera switch on the side.. this offered more than the DELL XPS 17 that I was interested in
Just a couple of things in case you are looking for feedback. Audio was on the lower side. I had to turn up my speakers a lot, if it is due to technical limitations you cannot increase it, its okay :). Second thing, would it be possible to include metrics next time? Like the weight and dimensions. Rest is spot on mate!
You are extremely detailed in what you present. Thank you.
Nice Vid.. Just purchased this for my wife that is a Realtor and she loves it.
Hey Bob great review, I want to add some my review experience of this like laptop.
I have the 15' pavilion with same chassis style ,keyboard mousepad ... (15-cw00xx).
I have it like 2 years with the ryzen apu 2500u , I can say it's a very good laptop all around, I bought it like 550€ at media markt Belgium, great price ! , so the screen is very good 1080p 60Hz ips matte +/- 250nits, keyboard amazing, webcam amazing ,mic amazing , speakers very good for the size of it specially tweaked by bang and olufsen, I tried it generic windows but it sound dull lmao. Just 3 downsides , 1 :mousepad is plastic and the plastic silver paint did come out at the edge of the mousepad (harsh use I guess ), 2 : Well I do game on it while pumping up the tdp(manually "ryzenadj" )but it has a mediocre thermal solution, enough for stock tdp tho. 3 : it has nvme ssd drive "stock version" i wanted to add normal ssd ,there is a place next to battery for additional ssd but laptop came without Instal bracket nor the necessary cable to connect with the motherboard. Have to buy separate for like 60 ish € ....
Just last thing tearing apart of this laptop for the first time is a pain in the a$$ hidden screws all over the place...
Well I guess I'll pass it down to my little sister when I will buy a gaming laptop, If it still survives 😂😂😂
No doubt about tearing it down I talked about that in the description and I have a bunch of footage of it should I need to make a video. Once you realize the screws are under the rubber feet texted pretty easy.
@@BobOfAllTrades hehehe indeed I nearly bent the undercover lmao , still good you can slam back to its original shape tho 😂😂😂
I like how you add b-roll shots for this video, very informative!
Imagine taking a shot every time he says "laptop"
Let’s do it!
@@BobOfAllTrades Dear BOB, is it safe to use Q tips soaked in isopropyl alcohol for cleaning thermal paste? Thanks & regards. Stay safe.
@@xt355 cleaning alcohol is what I've seen everyone use, it will be fine
@@manaspradhan8041 Bro I asked about Q tips not alcohol..
@@xt355 Try not to. Q tips tend to leave fibers, so try to use something that doesn't leave fibers like a coffee filter or an microfiber cloth.
Great video. I’m looking for a solid family laptop, and your analysis was exactly what I needed.
thank you for taking the time for this review
I bought a maxed out one 4 years ago it's still decent. I actually gamed on it a lot more than I should have.... I bought it because I didn't have the room for a PC in my apartment and I was working from home more often
I was considering this laptop but I'm not sure if I like silver that much. If they had an all black version I'd probably buy it
thanks for this review. i really liked it!! first time i have seen you, greetings from germany :)
Nice review! Picked up the 13” Spectre x360 with a 4K Samsung OLED and similar specs for $950 over the weekend at Best Buy. What a steal!
You ended up buying it ! Did anyone snap up your G15?
There were three left paid 950 for 32 GB of ram and 1TB hard drive for my daughter who's going off to college. I checked back 1 hr ago it was sold out. I am so happy that I got it while it was available. Here are the stats HP Envy x360 2-in-1 Touchscreen Laptop, 15.6" IPS FHD, Ryzen 5-4500U 6-Core up to 4.00 GHz, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, USB-C/DP, HDMI 2.0, Backlit KB, Webcam, Mytrix HDMI 2.0 Cable, Win 10.
Still rocking my 2014 Envy 15t-SlimQuad, love the slim tapering design & Beats Audio
If only it had better thermal performance 😭😭
Reminds me of the old 17 inch hp labtop i had. I was playing games on it back then and it did pretty well.
recommend this for video editing
Bernardo Sanchez Depends on the software but if you’re doing 1080 P video edits it should be just fine
just bought this for home use an loving it so far
Great video man, will you get your hands on the new HP Envy 15?
Glad to see your wallet isnt the one sponsoring your vids now :) hopefully more epic review comes. Btw was hoping to ask if you could make a teardown review for the latest GE75 raider. Also can you share some tips on jow to apply liquid metal safely on such products :) great review!
Is this a gaming laptop?
Lol 😂
How much more time for New HP Omen with Ryzen waiting for it........Thank you
Only if you are from Russia
@@anpowersoftpowersoft you don't need to because they're available at BestBuy. However, they're maxed out at GTX 1660 Ti. Price is also higher compared to other Ryzen laptops. HP will be start selling them from mid July.
You should buy it stephen!😋
Just subscribed and loved your review on this laptop. Great job.
Good to see a laptop I would buy for the family. I think the 17inch format makes it a lot easier for people to use it for longer periods. Specially for older people or just people not used to work with laptops. Anyway I missed you opening it! Would have been nice to see the components and see what can be upgraded.
Everything that's typically upgradeable still is :) Both dimms, NIC, storage and a cooler that's bigger than necessary so it's just right :)
hi just dropping by to say thank you for the undervolting guides and the no-nonsense approach to your videos and tutorials. Turns out my GPU (GTX 1650) runs pretty cool even with 220mhz/100mhz core/memory overclock with my chassis(Lenovo Y7000) therefore gpu undervolting was not needed.
I wish more gaming laptops had a full size numpad like this one.
I am so done with silver keys and white backlight. It's impossible to read the keys in even bright indoor light
Purchase a keyboard cover, you gain protection and can see the keys 100% better
Thank you for the great review! Do you think the protection plans are necessary? Also, should this last a couple of years? ✌️
Excellent review! Thank you so much !
I think the Envy 17 would be better suited if they turned it into a creator workstation like the XPS 17. If it is going to be 6 lbs, probably best just to throw in some serious H-series hardware. Otherwise need to go super light weight like the LG gram and use the efficient U-series.
Fantastic review mate. How would you rate the battery life. Seems like a small battery for a 17 inch display.
Another great review Bob!
I had an older model Envy and LOVED IT! If you are looking for this type of laptop I would definitely recommend it
I went to Best Buy today and saw this laptop. I have a 4-year-old Surface Book 2 and looking to upgrade. I like the 17" screen for my old eyes. LOL I only watch CZcams videos, so not sure I need the 4K?? I like that the Surface Book detaches, but I never really used it or the stylus pen, so I won't miss it. Is there a good competitor to this? Great review.
6lbs! These kids today are wusses! Back in my day, my portable computer was a Compaq Portable and it weighed 28lbs.
I'm a kid and I work on computers that weighs 20 lbs or more xd
AWESOME review...Thank you!!!
If they used Ryzen 4900H they would hardly need that extra discreet GPU and the laptop would have much better overall performance, lower power consumption and better thermals
I have an HP envy as well (I forget which model) and I use it for gaming honestly, and it doesn't do too bad.
Awesome review 👏🏻👏🏻 , xmg apex 15 next?
Great review bro 👍
Hey Bob, I have not purchased a p.c. in 20+ years and was wondering if you could make a recommendation, I am going to take some day trading classes and need a laptop. I know I want a big screen, tons of ram, ssd,number keys,and enough of whatever ports hook up extra screens. I don't know anything about brands, possessor speeds- higher is better I guess, I really don't want to spend weeks going down a rabbit hole here. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
What about the corei7 16gb ram and 4gb nvidia version, can it be used for gaming and video editing for youtube???
Do you think could be good for video editing and after effects, upgrading the memory?
FYI this laptop has a BackLit Keyboard, just hit F5 to turn it on :)
I wish 120 Hz screens become standard also for non-gaming laptops . I'm also fan of old school games between 2002-2008. I don't mind if it is a 3:2 screen, it'd be also great. 1800x1200, 1920x1280 or bit more - more compact, less bezels, more productive.
3:2 for gaming - older games? All classics like GTASA, Oblivion, etc. have Widescreen fixes made by the community. Too small viewing angles? - no problem, just increase the FOV.
I hate it, when manufacturers combine an ice lake processor with mx graphics, its not worth it, and the mx would be better with a cometlake processor
Could you review the HP Envy 15t? I would like to see how the RTX 2060 Max-Q with the internal vapor chamber stacks up against the XPS 17.
I am also looking at 15t. I am weighing it against Dell G7 15
Great review man!
I need a family laptop; understanding this is NOT a gaming laptop, can it handle Fortnite @ at 60mhz or close to it? Our foster kiddos all play it & I simply don’t want to build another rig with the continued supply chain disruptions and the pricing instability. Any input is greatly appreciated! Be safe, thanks for the hard work you put into your reviews.
I really hope they get more options back soon. I tried customizing an Envy 2-in-1 but there are very limited options to choose from.
Laptops and PC hardware is pretty slim pickings right now. It’s weird to see the shelves empty in a lot of stores.
Interesting review. But always a bit funny when reviewers let us hear how good the sound is while many people (including me) probably watch the video on a device that has far less capable speakers or speaker.
Great overview, thank you 😊. I love the fact that the notebook is all aluminum. I feel that HP doesn't get credit for the great keyboards they make, even in their budget notebooks.
Ravi Peiris M.D.
it's HAPPENING!!! now they are sending you their products . . . BIG step forward.
mx330 (renamed mx150) is just as good as the 1065G7 integrated graphics.
i don't understand what's the purpose of it.
Does this laptop have a Kensington lock slot? I don’t see it in your video. 🤔
Also, I thought the Envy comes with a DVD burner.
Where does the Envy stand in HP's lineup, is this an entry level? What is the quality of their internal components? Thanks, Karen
Funny I was recently looking for a good starter gaming laptop that was affordable, and everyone recommended this😂😂
This isn't even a gaming laptop
I have bought one last week. And it is not quiet. The fan is very very loud. Like a jet. And it starts with any simple, non CPU consuming game I start.
Great Video Sir!!!
I had a spectre 13in OLED , really liked it , but it stuttered when I hooked it up to an external monitor. Not the laptops faulty though , just limitation of the GPU/CPU.
Great little bugger though , well built.
Great review but HP just came out w the six core 45 watt cpu for the 15.6.. I’m gonna wait till the 17 gets that .
I bought this computer and have been using it for a couple of days. One of the things that you should know about this computer that is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL is the lack of contrast between the keys themselves and the letters. In normal light conditions, when you look at the keyboard there is often no contrast at all between the letters and the keys. It literally looks like you are using a keyboard with no letters on the keypads. It is horrible. I am finding that even in daylight conditions I am having to turn on the back lighting just to barely be able to see the letters on the keys. I am going to continue to use the computer for a few days to see if I can adjust to this problem, but if I am consistently finding it ANNOYING to have a keyboard that basically appears to have no letters or numbers on the keypads, then I am going to have return it. The reviewer above did a great job discussing this at the 7:00 minute mark, and I thought "how bad can it be? It can't be that bad, I can see the letters on the pads in the video." IT'S HORRIBLE. If you enjoy having a computer that in many conditions is like having a computer with blank key pads, no lettering on the key pads at all, then this is the computer for you. For me, I HATE IT so far. I hope that I can adjust and get used to it, but the keyboard is a major portion of your interaction with the computer and this keyboard is AWFUL. Sorry to be so negative and ventilate here, but I find this keyboard to have a very cheap appearance. It's like a keyboard that through usage, all of the letters have worn off. This is supposed to be a brand new, nearly $1500.00 with upgrades computer and it comes essentially with lettering on the keypads like an old, used, and worn out keyboard? Basically, this is a keyboard disaster. Truly amazing how well engineered and designed is the rest of the computer and it's coupled with a keyboard that is this bad. IT'S A DISASTER. Thank you.
please give aditional feedback after couple of days if you were able to adjust to this silver keyboard. I'm planning to buy this notebook, so any information would be helpful for me. Thanks
UPDATE: I have been using this computer for a couple of weeks now, and although the reviewer in this video gives an accurate review, I unfortunately have to offer a NO BUY RECOMMENDATION. The keyboard and touch pad are just awful. The touch pad has this flimsy, plastic, cheap feeling and plastic-sounding quality to it which is low quality. The keyboard is horrible regarding the lack of contrast between the letters/numbers and the keypad itself. I did all the upgrades on this computer and dropped about $1500.00 on the purchase only to receive a poor quality product. I had a similar HP 17 inch laptop prior from 2012 to 2020 that I got on sale for $800.00 which I love and very high quality and durable but after 8 years of very heavy use and travel was beginning to fall apart. Very disappointed in this replacement HP laptop. Imagine that you purchased an expensive road bike with all of the upgrades, but where you interface with the bike, saddle, handlebar, shifters are very cheap on an otherwise high quality bike and you can imagine what this Envy is like. This is the first, and last, time that I have ever purchased a computer online without holding it in my hands physically first. One test run with this poor quality cheap computer and I NEVER would have purchased it. Every time I use this expensive but cheap quality Envy, which is all of the time at work, I am deeply annoyed with the touch pad, the keyboard and the cheap plastic sound upon clicking. Every time I pick up this computer to use it, the thing pisses me off that I spent so much money on such obviously crappy quality. This is an otherwise quality computer except where you physically interface with it, and there it is a CHEAP DISASTER. Strongly recommend that you DO NOT BUY.