didn't realize that both language are different. growing up with those two language I assumed they're the same since everyone around me understood me. seeing this is really an eye opener
For an Ilonggo, Bisaya has similarities to realy-deep hiligaynon and kinaray-a and a little Akyanon. Maybe If I watch enough Cebu TV news maybe I would be able to understand, however speaking is a different thing....
BISAYA or VISAYA is a group of people or language from visayas region.. so pag sinabing bisaya hnd ibig sabihin n cebuano lng, pdeng ilonggo, waray, karay-a & other dialects & people din living & coming from visayas.. ❤️ american - people/language from america japanese - people/language from japan chinese - people/language from china bisaya - people/language from visayas
Sakto jd ka. Nastuck lng jd sa mga Bisaya(Cebuano) nga tawgon among pinulungan ug Binisaya instead of Cebuano(we can also call it Cebuano pero labaw jng gamiton ang term nga Bisaya). I guess it has to do with how the "Bisaya" term came first before the place got called Cebu where the language originated.
Kc pinagpapasensyahan n lng ng ibang bisayan people kahit sabihin nka sanayan n. Pero sa totoo lng Kung iisipin tlaga in logical reason, tlagang hindi maganda pakinggan kc parang ang labas mosts dominant. kung sasabihin mga bisaya daw salita nila at sila daw ang original n taga visayas. Talagang sobrang Nakaka insulto at nakawala talaga ng respeto yun kapag kaharap mo ang ibang taga visayas. Hindi yun maiiwasang mag isip na parang kayu lng ang inhabitants at ang may ari ng visayas. Visayan people has many different parts of dialect, but there were 3 mosts major popular languaged in visayas. Waray,CEBUANO,at HILIGAYNON. Yung iba na iintindihan at nauunawaan, at natutuwa sa kanila kapag sinabing bisaya sila kc nga proud sila sa kanilang lugar n pinag mulan. Pero meron nmang iba sinasabi n bisaya sila at bisaya dw ang dialect nila na kadalasan ang nagsasabi nito ay mga cebuano. At yun ang hindi ikinakatuwa at kaya lalung sumisiklab ang galit ng ibang taga visayas. Infact, kahit mga taga mindanao at luzon madalas daw nila marinig yun sa mga ibang cebuano na nagsasabi nito at npaka arogante daw nkaka wala ng respeto yun sa ibang visayan sabi ng isang tagalog. Dahil kapag binabanggit daw yun ng mga cebuano na bisaya sila at sila daw ang original n bisaya. dahil sila daw ang pinaka marami at dominante. Dito ay mas lalung sumisiklab, nagliliyab na poot at hindi masukat na sobrang malalim na galit. dahil sobrang pagiging arogante, npaka imperteninte n mga pananalita at totoong tinatanggalan mo talaga ng karapatan ang ibang visayan people at nakakawalan yun ng respeto sa ibang visayan race at dahil dito ay nagkakaroon ng masidhing hidwaan at madugong labanan kaya pla may maraming pinapatay na cebuano dahil sa isyung ito. Kahit ako aaminin ko sa sarili ko. minsan may galit ako sa ibang cebuano pero hindi naman lahat. Karamihan ng ibang cebuano na sinaktan ko. Ay yung nagsasabi na sila daw ang original n bisaya at kadalasan tlagang may umaabot sa punto n meron n akong pinag sasasapak n cebuano dahil talagang nagagalit at nainsulto ang lahi ko. Ayuko ko nman manakit ng kapwa kaya lng sinasabi ko lng ang totoo at pina ninindigan ko ang karapatan ko dahil isa din akong bisaya n taga visayas pero kahit kailan sa boung buhay ko hindi ko prinoclaim n ako at ang lahi ko ang original n bisaya dahil malalaking kahihiyan ko yun dahil malaki ang respeto ko sa ibang taga visayas. kaya lng ako nagalit dahil imbes na maintindihan at maunawaan nila ang pagkakamali ay mas lalu png, pinanindigan ang pagiging arogante at pagiging self proclaimed, at nakikipag matigasan. Kaya ayun marami n akong nkalaban, at pinag sasapak n cebuano pero hindi ko magagawang pumatay ng walang malalim na dahilan pero depende n lng kung maiiwasan at hindi dapat mangyari kung marunong ang lahat magka unawaan. Pero lahat ng nakalaban kung cebuano at lahat ng pinagsasapak ko na cebuano ay naging matalik kung mga kaibigan at nagkakaron n ng respeto hindi dahil sa takot sa akin. Dahil naunawaan n nila ang ibig kung sabihin at dahil dun mas lalung lumawak din ang pag unawa ko sa kapwa ko bisaya at ibang lahi ng pilipino dahil lahat tayu ay may mga history. Ang mga bisaya na WARAY masyadong tahimik n mga tao, napakabait,npaka sipag at matiyaga, mapagpakumbaba,ang mga mahihirap n may prinsipyo sa buhay. Ang mga taong totoong matatapang dahil sila lng nman ang mga bisayan pintados n gumimbal at lumusob sa ibat ibang lugar sa china ng maraming siglo n ang nkalipas. Sila yung hindi mayayabang dahil wala nman ipagyayabang dahil pinaka mahirap lng sila at sanay sa gutom. mataas ang respeto sa kapwa pilipino at lalung lalu na sa kapwa bisaya. Marunong tumanggap ng pagkaka mali at kahit ipahiya sila at pagalitan mo ay sila p yung manghihingi ng despensa. pero kapag sumiklab ang galit, walang katapusan ang galit handang pumatay ng walang pinipiling lugar at handang pumatay at mamatay kapag nakaranas ng pang aapi. owag lng mawalan ng respeto ang ibang tao at owag lng tanggalan sila ng karapatan dahil pinaglalaban nila kung anu ang dapat para sa kanila at para sa nakakarami kahit mahihirap lng sila. alam nman nila n mga bisaya sila at very proud sila na visayan race sila. pero hindi n nila kailangan mag voice out sa mga kausap n mga bisaya sila at bisaya ang salita nila. Dahil malaki ang respito nila sa ibang mga taga visayas. Dahil alam ng mga waray na WARAY ang salita nila at ang bisaya ay tumutukoy sa isang literal n tao n kung saang lugar ang kanilang pinagmulan. Katulad ng mga hiligaynon hanggang ngayun meron paring iba na very curious at naguguluhan na naging malaking epekto at malaking katanungan ito sa kanilang pagka tao at sa lugar n kanilang pinag mulan. meron nman akong kasamahan n hiligaynon sa barko. At ang tanung niya sa akin anu po ang pinagkaiba ng hiligaynon at bisaya? Dba walang dialect bisaya? Dba lahat nman tayu bisaya? Ang ibig sabihin kinukumpirma lng niya sa sarili niya at sa akin na pinaglalaban niya na proud bisaya din sya. At ang sabi ko nman tama k dun. Dahil pag sinabing bisaya ay tao yun n may ibat-ibang dialect na nakatira sa ibat ibang lugar ng visayas. Pero ang ibang hiligaynon alam na nila ang ibig sabihin ng bisaya, kaya hindi n nila kailangan ipagsigawan n mga bisaya sila dahil hindi lng daw sila ang mga taga visayas at malaki daw ang respeto nila sa ibang visayan people at very proud daw sila n hiligaynon na bisaya sila. dahil obvious nman daw n taga visayas sila. At kapag tinatanung sila kung anu salita nila yung iba ilonggo at yung iba nman hiligaynon. Dahil sabi nila yun nman tlaga ang tama dahil wala daw language n bisaya. Merong akong neighbor mag asawa sila yung babae yung cebuana. May sinabi sya na ang original daw n bisaya ay cebuano. Pinagalitan ng misis ko pinag sabihan na nakaka wala k ng respeto at tinatanggalan mo ng karapatan ang ibang bisaya n kilalanin n taga visayas sila. anung pinapalabas mo n kayu lng may karapatan dito sa visayas at kayu lng dapat kilalanin n mga bisaya? Sa susunod kapag magsalita kpa ng ganyan may kalalagyan ka. Kaya nayayabangan kami sa inyo mga cebuano kc masyado kayu overproud at self-proclaimed n kayu lng magaling at hindi kayu marunong mag appreciate ng ibang taga visayas kaya maraming nagagalit na WARAY at HILIGAYNON. feeling nyo kayu lng magaling at may sa buhay. Experienced yan ng misis ko sa babaeng cebuana. At kaya ko sinasabi din ito dahil din sa personal experienced ko. Hindi ko nilalahat ang mga cebuano, dahil likas n mababait at karamihan may kayabangan din. pero hindi ako takot sa inyo kung gusto niyo magkita tayo sa personal para malaman ninyo ang hinahanap niyo. Pero marami din akong mga kaibigan at mataas ang respeto sa kapwa ko pilipino. Yun lng that's all folks..
Nauso kasi yan, kasi pag sasabihi'ng bisaya mas sikat ang cebu kasi naging capital yan ng pilipinas panahon pa ng mga kastila. Pero tama din naman na bagohin na din yan, kasi kagaya sa mindanao mostly sa kanila nagsasalita ng bisaya eh hindi naman sila taga visayas, so therefore they're not visayan people or bisaya hindi sila bisaya.
@@shamgarmysterion8413 huh?? Hindi mo pede tawagin ang Ilonggo na Bisaya kasi ang dialect nila ay Hiligaynon so hindi sila bisaya. Ang dialect ng Cebuano ay Bisaya ang naman ay Ilonggo Hiligaynon so Hindi sila Bisaya. FYi ang Bisaya ay Dialect gets? Hiligaynon ay Dialect din. Part lang sila ng Visayas ang Negros Occ. Pero hindi Bisaya ang salita marami ang nag kakamali tungkol sa ganyan pero pinapabayaan na lang hanggang nakasanayan. Sabi nga ni Mayor Isko kapag ang "Mali ay nakasanayan Sa Huli nagiging Tama"
Karon(ilonggo) = Later Karon(cebuano) = Now Exact opposite hihi And btw, hiligaynon are language mainly spoken in areas of iloilo, 50% parts of negros island, parts of suktan kudarat, cotabato. In panay, 3provinces speak hiligaynon exept aklan(akeanon). Iloilo, capiz and antique alone they have another language aside from hiligaynon which is called kiniray-a where the words meanings changes from town to town. Example: ido(aso) to ayam to iro. If you can speak or understand both hiligaynon and cebuano language. Youll not have a hard time to communicate in most parts of mindanao, cebu and panay island.
In central mindanao specially cotabato, people can talk using both languages bisaya and ilonggo without tagalog. Like: bisaya - ayo palit ko, ilonggo: ano baklon mo? Bisaya itlog kol, ilonggo: pila ka bilog? Bisaya: lima kabuuk lang. usually they get mix it until they don’t know they’re mixing both languages. :)
if someone says bisaya no one’s gonna ask “wait anong ibig sabihin mo cebuano o ilonggo?” they automatically know you mean cebuano. same sa waray ug sa ubang mga bisayan language.
VISAYAN, not Bisaya. Bisaya automatically means Cebuano. Though in the proper historical context, “Bisaya” was a historical term used to describe people from Panay Island.
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BISAYA or VISAYA is a group of people or language from visayas region.. so pag sinabing bisaya hnd ibig sabihin n cebuano lng, pdeng ilonggo, waray, karay-a & other dialects & people din living & coming from visayas.. ❤️ american - people/language from america japanese - people/language from japan chinese - people/language from china bisaya - people/language from visayas
Sa mga marurunong pong magsalita ng mga Wikang bisayan, Tulad ng Waray, Hiligaynon/Ilonggo, Cebuano/Bisaya, Butuanon, Masbateño, Romblomanon, Tausug, Kabalianon, Aklanon, Kinaray-a at iba pang Wikang Bisayan, O sa mga taong interesado o nagnanais na matuto ng mga nabanggit na wika, kayo po ay aking inaanyayahan na sumali sa group na ito. facebook.com/groups/903603093378874/?ref=share
@@_daki Language is the method of human communication, either spoken or written, consisting of the use of words in a structured and conventional way. Dialect is a particular form of a language which is peculiar to a specific region or social group. Now In this video, Bisaya is specific to Central/Western Visayas and HILIGAYNON (the language of ilonggo PEOPLE) is used specifically by people from Iloilo and Panay. Therefore they are called DIALECT. Hope this helped u a bit.
@@camille6873 You’re quite confused with this. Language has its own set of words, syntax, and structure which is not mutually intelligible with other language. Dialect is just another variation of that specific language, with a distinct accent. One clear way of appreciating the difference is by having an example. Say, Batangueño, Caviteño, etc. are variations or dialects from Tagalog. This video proves that Cebuano and Hiligaynon are two different languages.
@@killersg.8290 Paki Explain nga sa akin bakit yung ibang tao mga negros occidental kapag nag kataon nag uusap ang Ilonggo at Cebuano ang kadalasan ng sasabihin ng ilonggo hindi sila nakakaintindi ng Bisaya? Lalo kapag nasa oriental ako sasabihin ng taga dun hindi daw ako kaintsindi Binisaya na salita FYi marunong ako mag ilonggo. Pero One time nsa Negros Orriental ako yung asawa ng Pinsan ko minsan nag tanong sya kung marunong daw ng Bisaya? Kasi ilonggo lang daw alam ko.
It is common for Ilonggo to refer among themselves as Bisaya. So it could be confusing because in national and cebuano context, bisaya refers only to cebuano language but in ilonggo context they are the bisaya. (If we include 1570's spanish account, it would be more confusing 🤣 The first spanish accounts limit the visayans to the panay people and called those in cebu "pintados")
Actually, in the proper historical context, it was the people of Panay Island that was original called “Bisaya” by the Spanish colonizers. The people in the Visayas with tattoos were called “pintados”. It was only recently that Bisaya became a term that’s used to describe Cebuanos.
It's funny how different both dialects are from each other. I really thought I could get away speaking Ilonggo in Cebu, but that didn't happen. I found myself speaking more Tagalog or English. Great video btw, this was fun to watch.
@@luisajmc2057 I agree. I'm aware that they are much different than the difference between spanish and italian. I just refer to them as dialects because the outside world refers to them dialects.
@@geneparcellano umm no. Filipinos only refer to them as dialects due to incorrect education. The Visayan languages are widely accepted by linguists as individual languages. Char
@@lylealburo8244 umm, please no need to be snarky to show that you know more than other people. When I refer to the outside world, I'm referring to the layman, not linguists.
@@draxblaster3323 Yeah. Pero languages sila, hindi dialects. Dialects are versions of a language. Halimbawa Batangenyo at Kabitenyo ay dialects ng Tagalog. Pareho silang Tagalog, pero magkaibang versions.
Ang galing Lodi. Ang ilonggo at bisaya kasi halos magkaparehas Lang pero the more talaga Ang pinagkaiba. At parang mahirap intindihin hehe. Ilonngo here from Iloilo.
Please be informed. Ilonggo is Bisaya too since it is one of the languages of the Visayas. Cebuanong Bisaya, Hiligaynon also called Ilonggo and Waray also called Waray waray.
@@motolooper4928 mali ka dun lahat ng mga taga visayas Ay bisaya. Kahit ilonggo/hiligaynon ay bisaya din dahil visayas din ang pinag mulan. Ang eastern visayas n sinasabi mo ay major dominant yan ng mga Pintados mga WARAY people.
Paki Explain nga sa akin bakit yung ibang tao mga negros occidental kapag nag kataon nag uusap ang Ilonggo at Cebuano ang kadalasan ng sasabihin ng ilonggo hindi sila nakakaintindi ng Bisaya? Lalo kapag nasa oriental ako sasabihin ng taga dun hindi daw ako kaintsindi Binisaya na salita FYi marunong ako mag ilonggo. Pero One time nsa Negros Orriental ako yung asawa ng Pinsan ko minsan nag tanong sya kung marunong daw ng Bisaya? Kasi ilonggo lang daw alam ko. Tapos sabi ng iba Bisaya daw ang Ilonggo?
An old manuscript Maragtas of uncertain date (discovered by the anthropologist H. Otley Beyer)give interesting details about the laws, government, social customs, and religious beliefs of the early Visayans, who settled Panay within the first half of the 13th century.The term Visayan was first applied only to them and to their settlements eastward in the island of Negros, and northward in the smaller islands, which now compose the province of Romblon. In fact, even at the early part of Spanish colonialization of the Philippines, the Spaniards used the term Visayan only for these areas. While the people of Cebu, Bohol, and Leyte were for a long time known only as Pintados.The name Visayan was later extended to them because, as several of the early writers state (especially in the writings of the Jesuit Lorenza po Hervás y Panduro published in 1801), albeit erroneously, their languages are closely allied to the Visayan "language" of Panay.This fact indicates that the ancient people of Panay called themselves as Visayans, for the Spaniards would have otherwise simply referred to them as "people of the Panay". This self-reference as Visayans as well as the appellative (Panay - a riminescence of the State of Pannai) that these people give to the Island manifest a strong sign of their identification with the precursor civilization of the Srivijayan Empire.
Fluent ako ng ilonggo at Cebuano .. Ang ng yari tatlo Ang ginagamit Kong language sa pang araw2 mix kung baga..mixing of ilonggo +Cebuano+ Tagalog plus English pa ..okay lang na mix yong salita ko sa place namin kasi nakakaintindi kasi kami ng Cebuano, Tagalog at ilonggo .
Kung tao pinag-usapan ilongga vs Cebuano yun ang tamang term dyan pero kung ang Pangalan NG Lengwahe pinag-usapan Hiligaynon vs Bisaya yun dapat ang tamang term dyan. But in General term, they're both Visaya.. 13:24
All languages from Visayas and Mindanao are BISAYA family. For example languages from ROME, ITALY, SPAIN, FRANCE, ENGLISH and etc. are called LATIN languages.
Many people in the Visayas accept that they are Visayan, but non-Cebuanos will often argue that they are not Bisaya. Why? Because nowadays, Cebuanos almost own the term “Bisaya”, wherein if someone was asked if he/she is a Bisaya, people would automatically think of a Cebuano-speaking Visayan.
Bat ganon napaisip lng ako,kc karamihan pag nagsabi kc.hilongo vs bisaya bakit Ang hilongo tagalog ba Ang hilongo.bicol vs bisaya Ang bicolano tagalog ba Ang bicolano.tinonto eto?
I can understand ilonggo but I can't speak it, my cousin speaks ilonggo and I speak bisaya to her and we understand each other but we just can't speak it lol and we rarely see each other so.. yea
Ilonggo is the people, Hiligaynon is the language tlg. Get it right ko. Both are Visayan languages! We all have a common ancestor, and pre colonial times we all migrated from Borneo Indonesia to Panay. Before that both the Proto Malay and Proto Indonesians came from the Philippines! We are all related. Panay ng Negros both lays in Western Visayas of Central Philippines. Bisaya is just an umbrella term.
I speak both the language,pero ilonggo ako nga dako proud to be ilonggo, mas gusto ko ang ilonggo sang panay inang ga bawod bawod bala nagdako abi ako sa mindanao lain ang ilonggo nmon kompara sa panay dire ya ang mga ilonggo kung maghambal astig sa Panay malambing, akig na pero lambing gyapon
Lolo ko tga antique pro d ako marunong mag ilonggo kc lumaki na ako sa mindanao, mga cousins ko lng marunong mag ilonggo kc tga negros sila. At ska may mga ibang tao sa mindanao marunong dn mag ilonggo tulad ng friend ko tga cotabato pro marunong sya mag speak ng bisaya at ilonggo.
Here in modern terminologies Bisaya has 3 meanings. Bisaya that is the Cebuano speaking people, Bisaya that are the inhabitants of the Visayas region and Bisaya or Bisayan or Bisayanic that is a group of languages and so group of Visayan peoples.
An old manuscript Maragtas of uncertain date (discovered by the anthropologist H. Otley Beyer)give interesting details about the laws, government, social customs, and religious beliefs of the early Visayans, who settled Panay within the first half of the 13th century.The term Visayan was first applied only to them and to their settlements eastward in the island of Negros, and northward in the smaller islands, which now compose the province of Romblon. In fact, even at the early part of Spanish colonialization of the Philippines, the Spaniards used the term Visayan only for these areas. While the people of Cebu, Bohol, and Leyte were for a long time known only as Pintados.The name Visayan was later extended to them because, as several of the early writers state (especially in the writings of the Jesuit Lorenza po Hervás y Panduro published in 1801), albeit erroneously, their languages are closely allied to the Visayan "language" of Panay.This fact indicates that the ancient people of Panay called themselves as Visayans, for the Spaniards would have otherwise simply referred to them as "people of the Panay". This self-reference as Visayans as well as the appellative (Panay - a riminescence of the State of Pannai) that these people give to the Island manifest a strong sign of their identification with the precursor civilization of the Srivijayan Empire.
if im not mistaken, ILONGGO refers to a tribe while HILIGAYNON refers to certain vernacular dialect but somehow i enjoy watching you 😁 here in Mindanao specially in the province of north cotabato we speak hiligaynon, bisaya, karay-a, some muslim diact like maguindanaon , maranao 😁😊 PROUD ILONGGO/ANTIQUEÑO of NORTH COTABATO Ilonggo gid ako ya 😊
Hiligaynon is spoken by a lot of people. Capiznons speak Hiligaynon, Ilonggos speak Hiligaynon, Negrenses speak Hiligaynon, Cotabateños also speak Hiligaynon. Ilonggo is a local identity of the person speaking the language. It’s just like Tagalog, Tagalog is the language. But the natives speaking that language have many different local backgrounds: Bataeño, Batangueño, Bulaqueño, Caviteño, Manileño, Mindoreño, Novo Ecijano, Tayabeño (Aurora-Quezon) and Rizaleño.
@@joenelgarsola1523 Na walang katuturan. At sino ang tinutukoy mong mahirap? Ang Hiligaynon ay isang wikang Bisaya tulad ng Cebuano. Noon si Bisaya. Dapat Hiligaynon VS Cebuano! At ako si Ilonggo tlg.
People from Iloilo are called Ilonggos. - People from Negros Occidental are called Negrenses. - People from Bacolod are called Bacolodnons. - Some people in Iloilo City speak Kinaray-a.
pagsinabi mong Latin parang Spanish agad pero pwedi ang Lati sa Spanish Portuguese Italian French and Romanian same din sa Bisaya common knowledge na Cebuano pero applicable din sa Hiligaynon Waray Capiznon Aklanon
Visayan is applicable but Bisaya is an informal.or coloquial term for Cebuano speaking people of Visayas and Mindanao and majority of Bisaya is not in Visayas but in mindanao
Nagatuon ko Bisaya (Cebuano) ug namatikdan nako nga naay similaridad ang Cebuano sa Hiligaynon apan ang kalainan lang kay may tono ang pagsulti sa Hiligaynon samtang ang Sinugboanon mga diin lang. Naglisudan ko sa pagsabot sa kalainan nilang duha kay hapit parehas ang Cebuano sa Hiligaynon. Tatak man gyud sa mga Bisaya/Kabisay-an
@@chimp1893 bogo gid!!! Sa lahing BISAYA ang sugbuanon, waraynon, hiligaynon ay mga Dialects, kung sa GENERAL term mo gagamitin Ang BISAYA kasi LAHI yan Hindi man naging LANGUAGE yan taanga...Para mas maintindihan mo Ang Tawag sa mga taga Sugbu(cebu) sa kanilang sarili basi sa pinag mulan o Kultura SUGBUANON at nag sasalita sila ng SUGBUANON kung tatanongin mo kung anong lahi nila sasabihin sayo na BISAYA.. sugbuanon(BISAYA), waraynon(BISAYA), hiligaynon (BISAYA) at wag ka mag sabi ng VISAYA dahil walang "V" sa salita namin
didn't realize that both language are different. growing up with those two language I assumed they're the same since everyone around me understood me. seeing this is really an eye opener
For an Ilonggo, Bisaya has similarities to realy-deep hiligaynon and kinaray-a and a little Akyanon. Maybe If I watch enough Cebu TV news maybe I would be able to understand, however speaking is a different thing....
BISAYA or VISAYA is a group of people or language from visayas region.. so pag sinabing bisaya hnd ibig sabihin n cebuano lng, pdeng ilonggo, waray, karay-a & other dialects & people din living & coming from visayas.. ❤️
american - people/language from america
japanese - people/language from japan
chinese - people/language from china
bisaya - people/language from visayas
Sakto jd ka. Nastuck lng jd sa mga Bisaya(Cebuano) nga tawgon among pinulungan ug Binisaya instead of Cebuano(we can also call it Cebuano pero labaw jng gamiton ang term nga Bisaya). I guess it has to do with how the "Bisaya" term came first before the place got called Cebu where the language originated.
Kc pinagpapasensyahan n lng ng ibang bisayan people kahit sabihin nka sanayan n. Pero sa totoo lng Kung iisipin tlaga in logical reason, tlagang hindi maganda pakinggan kc parang ang labas mosts dominant. kung sasabihin mga bisaya daw salita nila at sila daw ang original n taga visayas. Talagang sobrang Nakaka insulto at nakawala talaga ng respeto yun kapag kaharap mo ang ibang taga visayas. Hindi yun maiiwasang mag isip na parang kayu lng ang inhabitants at ang may ari ng visayas. Visayan people has many different parts of dialect, but there were 3 mosts major popular languaged in visayas. Waray,CEBUANO,at HILIGAYNON. Yung iba na iintindihan at nauunawaan, at natutuwa sa kanila kapag sinabing bisaya sila kc nga proud sila sa kanilang lugar n pinag mulan. Pero meron nmang iba sinasabi n bisaya sila at bisaya dw ang dialect nila na kadalasan ang nagsasabi nito ay mga cebuano. At yun ang hindi ikinakatuwa at kaya lalung sumisiklab ang galit ng ibang taga visayas. Infact, kahit mga taga mindanao at luzon madalas daw nila marinig yun sa mga ibang cebuano na nagsasabi nito at npaka arogante daw nkaka wala ng respeto yun sa ibang visayan sabi ng isang tagalog. Dahil kapag binabanggit daw yun ng mga cebuano na bisaya sila at sila daw ang original n bisaya. dahil sila daw ang pinaka marami at dominante. Dito ay mas lalung sumisiklab, nagliliyab na poot at hindi masukat na sobrang malalim na galit. dahil sobrang pagiging arogante, npaka imperteninte n mga pananalita at totoong tinatanggalan mo talaga ng karapatan ang ibang visayan people at nakakawalan yun ng respeto sa ibang visayan race at dahil dito ay nagkakaroon ng masidhing hidwaan at madugong labanan kaya pla may maraming pinapatay na cebuano dahil sa isyung ito. Kahit ako aaminin ko sa sarili ko. minsan may galit ako sa ibang cebuano pero hindi naman lahat. Karamihan ng ibang cebuano na sinaktan ko. Ay yung nagsasabi na sila daw ang original n bisaya at kadalasan tlagang may umaabot sa punto n meron n akong pinag sasasapak n cebuano dahil talagang nagagalit at nainsulto ang lahi ko. Ayuko ko nman manakit ng kapwa kaya lng sinasabi ko lng ang totoo at pina ninindigan ko ang karapatan ko dahil isa din akong bisaya n taga visayas pero kahit kailan sa boung buhay ko hindi ko prinoclaim n ako at ang lahi ko ang original n bisaya dahil malalaking kahihiyan ko yun dahil malaki ang respeto ko sa ibang taga visayas. kaya lng ako nagalit dahil imbes na maintindihan at maunawaan nila ang pagkakamali ay mas lalu png, pinanindigan ang pagiging arogante at pagiging self proclaimed, at nakikipag matigasan. Kaya ayun marami n akong nkalaban, at pinag sasapak n cebuano pero hindi ko magagawang pumatay ng walang malalim na dahilan pero depende n lng kung maiiwasan at hindi dapat mangyari kung marunong ang lahat magka unawaan. Pero lahat ng nakalaban kung cebuano at lahat ng pinagsasapak ko na cebuano ay naging matalik kung mga kaibigan at nagkakaron n ng respeto hindi dahil sa takot sa akin. Dahil naunawaan n nila ang ibig kung sabihin at dahil dun mas lalung lumawak din ang pag unawa ko sa kapwa ko bisaya at ibang lahi ng pilipino dahil lahat tayu ay may mga history. Ang mga bisaya na WARAY masyadong tahimik n mga tao, napakabait,npaka sipag at matiyaga, mapagpakumbaba,ang mga mahihirap n may prinsipyo sa buhay. Ang mga taong totoong matatapang dahil sila lng nman ang mga bisayan pintados n gumimbal at lumusob sa ibat ibang lugar sa china ng maraming siglo n ang nkalipas. Sila yung
hindi mayayabang dahil wala nman ipagyayabang dahil pinaka mahirap lng sila at sanay sa gutom. mataas ang respeto sa kapwa pilipino at lalung lalu na sa kapwa bisaya. Marunong tumanggap ng pagkaka mali at kahit ipahiya sila at pagalitan mo ay sila p yung manghihingi ng despensa. pero kapag sumiklab ang galit, walang katapusan ang galit handang pumatay ng walang pinipiling lugar at handang pumatay at mamatay kapag nakaranas ng pang aapi. owag lng mawalan ng respeto ang ibang tao at owag lng tanggalan sila ng karapatan dahil pinaglalaban nila kung anu ang dapat para sa kanila at para sa nakakarami kahit mahihirap lng sila. alam nman nila n mga bisaya sila at very proud sila na visayan race sila. pero hindi n nila kailangan mag voice out sa mga kausap n mga bisaya sila at bisaya ang salita nila. Dahil malaki ang respito nila sa ibang mga taga visayas. Dahil alam ng mga waray na WARAY ang salita nila at ang bisaya ay tumutukoy sa isang literal n tao n kung saang lugar ang kanilang pinagmulan. Katulad ng mga hiligaynon hanggang ngayun meron paring iba na very curious at naguguluhan na naging malaking epekto at malaking katanungan ito sa kanilang pagka tao at sa lugar n kanilang pinag mulan. meron nman akong kasamahan n hiligaynon sa barko. At ang tanung niya sa akin anu po ang pinagkaiba ng hiligaynon at bisaya? Dba walang dialect bisaya? Dba lahat nman tayu bisaya? Ang ibig sabihin kinukumpirma lng niya sa sarili niya at sa akin na pinaglalaban niya na proud bisaya din sya. At ang sabi ko nman tama k dun. Dahil pag sinabing bisaya ay tao yun n may ibat-ibang dialect na nakatira sa ibat ibang lugar ng visayas. Pero ang ibang hiligaynon alam na nila ang ibig sabihin ng bisaya, kaya hindi n nila kailangan ipagsigawan n mga bisaya sila dahil hindi lng daw sila ang mga taga visayas at malaki daw ang respeto nila sa ibang visayan people at very proud daw sila n hiligaynon na bisaya sila. dahil obvious nman daw n taga visayas sila. At kapag tinatanung sila kung anu salita nila yung iba ilonggo at yung iba nman hiligaynon. Dahil sabi nila yun nman tlaga ang tama dahil wala daw language n bisaya. Merong akong neighbor mag asawa sila yung babae yung cebuana. May sinabi sya na ang original daw n bisaya ay cebuano. Pinagalitan ng misis ko pinag sabihan na nakaka wala k ng respeto at tinatanggalan mo ng karapatan ang ibang bisaya n kilalanin n taga visayas sila. anung pinapalabas mo n kayu lng may karapatan dito sa visayas at kayu lng dapat kilalanin n mga bisaya? Sa susunod kapag magsalita kpa ng ganyan may kalalagyan ka. Kaya nayayabangan kami sa inyo mga cebuano kc masyado kayu overproud at self-proclaimed n kayu lng magaling at hindi kayu marunong mag appreciate ng ibang taga visayas kaya maraming nagagalit na WARAY at HILIGAYNON. feeling nyo kayu lng magaling at may sa buhay. Experienced yan ng misis ko sa babaeng cebuana. At kaya ko sinasabi din ito dahil din sa personal experienced ko. Hindi ko nilalahat ang mga cebuano, dahil likas n mababait at karamihan may kayabangan din. pero hindi ako takot sa inyo kung gusto niyo magkita tayo sa personal para malaman ninyo ang hinahanap niyo. Pero marami din akong mga kaibigan at mataas ang respeto sa kapwa ko pilipino. Yun lng that's all folks..
Nauso kasi yan, kasi pag sasabihi'ng bisaya mas sikat ang cebu kasi naging capital yan ng pilipinas panahon pa ng mga kastila. Pero tama din naman na bagohin na din yan, kasi kagaya sa mindanao mostly sa kanila nagsasalita ng bisaya eh hindi naman sila taga visayas, so therefore they're not visayan people or bisaya hindi sila bisaya.
@@shamgarmysterion8413 huh?? Hindi mo pede tawagin ang Ilonggo na Bisaya kasi ang dialect nila ay Hiligaynon so hindi sila bisaya. Ang dialect ng Cebuano ay Bisaya ang naman ay Ilonggo Hiligaynon so Hindi sila Bisaya.
FYi ang Bisaya ay Dialect gets? Hiligaynon ay Dialect din.
Part lang sila ng Visayas ang Negros Occ. Pero hindi Bisaya ang salita marami ang nag kakamali tungkol sa ganyan pero pinapabayaan na lang hanggang nakasanayan.
Sabi nga ni Mayor Isko kapag ang "Mali ay nakasanayan Sa Huli nagiging Tama"
@@shamgarmysterion8413 kadto ka di sa negros occ moises padillaa mango cmo
Ilonggo po tawag sa mga tao sa taga iloilo. Hiligaynon naman po yung language. 😊
Ano nman po ang tawag
sa mga taga Negros Occidental
at ano ang salita nila?
@@JosephOccenoBFH negrense tawag sa kanila at hiligaynon din yung salita nila same sa taga iloilo
Mango ka emo ya
@@JosephOccenoBFH sempre ilonggo do mga mango
@@JosephOccenoBFH ilonggo idol
Karon(ilonggo) = Later
Karon(cebuano) = Now
Exact opposite hihi
And btw, hiligaynon are language mainly spoken in areas of iloilo, 50% parts of negros island, parts of suktan kudarat, cotabato. In panay, 3provinces speak hiligaynon exept aklan(akeanon). Iloilo, capiz and antique alone they have another language aside from hiligaynon which is called kiniray-a where the words meanings changes from town to town. Example: ido(aso) to ayam to iro.
If you can speak or understand both hiligaynon and cebuano language. Youll not have a hard time to communicate in most parts of mindanao, cebu and panay island.
Im a kinaraya whahahahaha and i can say we literally use morr on R words parang crunchy mag salita hehehehehe
Maski sa amoa taga MASBATE Karon na... ibig sabihin saglit lang... pero ang tagalog sa karon "ngayon", bali nasa expression nalang kasi yan..
Here in my hometown Kidapawan, we speak both Ilonggo,Karay-a,and bisaya
tampaon tagid ka karon 😂
Bisaya-karon- Now
Ilonggo-subong- Now
In central mindanao specially cotabato, people can talk using both languages bisaya and ilonggo without tagalog. Like: bisaya - ayo palit ko, ilonggo: ano baklon mo? Bisaya itlog kol, ilonggo: pila ka bilog? Bisaya: lima kabuuk lang. usually they get mix it until they don’t know they’re mixing both languages. :)
sa Bayawan City in Negros Oriental is where you will see a mix of cebuano and ilonggo speakers
Cebuano and Hiligaynon(Ilonggo) are both Bisaya.
if someone says bisaya no one’s gonna ask “wait anong ibig sabihin mo cebuano o ilonggo?” they automatically know you mean cebuano. same sa waray ug sa ubang mga bisayan language.
Ok kyo ah @@miggy_lan
@@alagosreanz4458 nd po
VISAYAN, not Bisaya. Bisaya automatically means Cebuano. Though in the proper historical context, “Bisaya” was a historical term used to describe people from Panay Island.
@@GaryHField in layman's conversation, yes. In technical writing, no.
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BISAYA or VISAYA is a group of people or language from visayas region.. so pag sinabing bisaya hnd ibig sabihin n cebuano lng, pdeng ilonggo, waray, karay-a & other dialects & people din living & coming from visayas.. ❤️
american - people/language from america
japanese - people/language from japan
chinese - people/language from china
bisaya - people/language from visayas
@@markstephenigoy2701 is
Basta ilonga, gwapa.. basta bisaya, gwapa gihapon.
basta bisaya bisaya ug nawng..
hahahaha..
peace mga bisdak..
@@MrAlipatik plas pandak 🤣
Bisaya din Ang hilongo hahaha
apil ko sa challenge! 😂
Bisayang Hilaw let’s do a collab!!! Hahahaha 😅
@@BiancaIlogon sali rin kami Video Call lang Ma'am @Bisayang Hilaw
Sa mga marurunong pong magsalita ng mga Wikang bisayan, Tulad ng Waray, Hiligaynon/Ilonggo, Cebuano/Bisaya, Butuanon, Masbateño, Romblomanon, Tausug, Kabalianon, Aklanon, Kinaray-a at iba pang Wikang Bisayan,
O sa mga taong interesado o nagnanais na matuto ng mga nabanggit na wika, kayo po ay aking inaanyayahan na sumali sa group na ito.
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ay gi atay😂
Mao juud e apil ni si kua makoy
The Hiligaynon's tone is so tender😭
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It's melodic and honestly quite pleasing to the ear.
This hits different when you can speak both dialect 😂
language*
@@_daki Language is the method of human communication, either spoken or written, consisting of the use of words in a structured and conventional way. Dialect is a particular form of a language which is peculiar to a specific region or social group.
Now In this video, Bisaya is specific to Central/Western Visayas and HILIGAYNON (the language of ilonggo PEOPLE) is used specifically by people from Iloilo and Panay. Therefore they are called DIALECT.
Hope this helped u a bit.
@@camille6873 You’re quite confused with this. Language has its own set of words, syntax, and structure which is not mutually intelligible with other language. Dialect is just another variation of that specific language, with a distinct accent. One clear way of appreciating the difference is by having an example. Say, Batangueño, Caviteño, etc. are variations or dialects from Tagalog.
This video proves that Cebuano and Hiligaynon are two different languages.
@@_daki you’re correct
@@killersg.8290 Paki Explain nga sa akin bakit yung ibang tao mga negros occidental kapag nag kataon nag uusap ang Ilonggo at Cebuano ang kadalasan ng sasabihin ng ilonggo hindi sila nakakaintindi ng Bisaya? Lalo kapag nasa oriental ako sasabihin ng taga dun hindi daw ako kaintsindi Binisaya na salita
FYi marunong ako mag ilonggo. Pero
One time nsa Negros Orriental ako yung asawa ng Pinsan ko minsan nag tanong sya kung marunong daw ng Bisaya? Kasi ilonggo lang daw alam ko.
It is common for Ilonggo to refer among themselves as Bisaya.
So it could be confusing because in national and cebuano context, bisaya refers only to cebuano language but in ilonggo context they are the bisaya.
(If we include 1570's spanish account, it would be more confusing 🤣
The first spanish accounts limit the visayans to the panay people and called those in cebu "pintados")
Actually, in the proper historical context, it was the people of Panay Island that was original called “Bisaya” by the Spanish colonizers. The people in the Visayas with tattoos were called “pintados”. It was only recently that Bisaya became a term that’s used to describe Cebuanos.
no, we don't refer ourselves as Bisaya. We're Ilonggo and we speak Hiligaynon/Karay-a.
@@Happy-mx9ds subong lang nga sini na ang tinawagan.
Daming alam ng mga TAGALOG
Kailan pa naging LANGUAGE ang salitang BISAYA???
It's funny how different both dialects are from each other. I really thought I could get away speaking Ilonggo in Cebu, but that didn't happen. I found myself speaking more Tagalog or English. Great video btw, this was fun to watch.
Gene Parcellano thank you!! Glad you enjoyed watching the video ☺️🤗
They’re not dialects they’re literally DIFFERENT LANGUAGES
@@luisajmc2057 I agree. I'm aware that they are much different than the difference between spanish and italian. I just refer to them as dialects because the outside world refers to them dialects.
@@geneparcellano umm no. Filipinos only refer to them as dialects due to incorrect education. The Visayan languages are widely accepted by linguists as individual languages. Char
@@lylealburo8244 umm, please no need to be snarky to show that you know more than other people. When I refer to the outside world, I'm referring to the layman, not linguists.
Bisaya is not a dialect its a group of languages.
Yeap Kaya ngA iwan ko bakit Tawag SA Cebuano Bisaya 🤣🤣 ang alam ko Bisaya you're living in visayas region
Yung sa ilonggo means mga tao yun pero ginagamit lang sguro para ma mix yung dalawang dialect na ginagamit yung Hiligaynon at Karay a
@@draxblaster3323 Yeah. Pero languages sila, hindi dialects. Dialects are versions of a language. Halimbawa Batangenyo at Kabitenyo ay dialects ng Tagalog. Pareho silang Tagalog, pero magkaibang versions.
@@Zombi4SaRap Peru sakin dialects yan hindi language
Visayan, not Bisaya. Bisaya is just another term for Cebuano. Visayan is a cluster of languages spoken throughout the Visayas and Northern Mindanao.
I really want to learn Hiligaynon but don’t really know how to start, :(( anybody have any tips? I would really appreciate it
Hi Dane! hahaha Good job guys! kalingaw sa inyo; lingawa ninyu uy :)
Ang galing Lodi. Ang ilonggo at bisaya kasi halos magkaparehas Lang pero the more talaga Ang pinagkaiba. At parang mahirap intindihin hehe. Ilonngo here from Iloilo.
i’m trying to learn hiligaynon para sa aking ilonggo crush 😩
Sin o na sya na taga iloilo maam hehehe
Ma hampang ta. Sabihin mo
Please be informed. Ilonggo is Bisaya too since it is one of the languages of the Visayas. Cebuanong Bisaya, Hiligaynon also called Ilonggo and Waray also called Waray waray.
I appreciate this! Thank you for the info! 😊
That’s why I also understand Ilonggo
Dapat ilonggo vs cebuano kc parehong bisaya iloilo n cebu.
Lol! I don't think so, why i can't understand ilonggo😝
just to clarify lng po sa misconceptions..ilonggo po ung tawag sa mga tga iloilo..HILIGAYNON po ung salita nila..
Bisaya and Ilonggo mga gwapa ❤️😍
Alyssa Ilogon gwapa gyud 😂😉
Bakit ilonggo hindi bisaya
@@scienceandhistoryfact1984 illonggo from western visayas and bisaya from eastern visayas.
@@motolooper4928 hahahaha. Amo Bala 🤪🤪😁😁😁👍
@@motolooper4928 mali ka dun lahat ng mga taga visayas Ay bisaya. Kahit ilonggo/hiligaynon ay bisaya din dahil visayas din ang pinag mulan. Ang eastern visayas n sinasabi mo ay major dominant yan ng mga Pintados mga WARAY people.
Galing 🙌🏻 dami ko natutunan😂😂
Hi mga girls bianca and dane bgo subscriber ni sa inyo nga duha 15 yrs ako cebu 20 yrs ako sa ILOILO pavia kaintindi ko sa hinambalan nnyu nga 2
Unsa man imong pangutana? Watching here in CEBU...
Ganda ng tandem nyung dalawa...Keep it up...
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Hi adorable girls new supporters here from dubai I understand Ilonggo and bisaya both love it.
Thank you!!! Yay 😍😍
Paki Explain nga sa akin bakit yung ibang tao mga negros occidental kapag nag kataon nag uusap ang Ilonggo at Cebuano ang kadalasan ng sasabihin ng ilonggo hindi sila nakakaintindi ng Bisaya? Lalo kapag nasa oriental ako sasabihin ng taga dun hindi daw ako kaintsindi Binisaya na salita
FYi marunong ako mag ilonggo. Pero
One time nsa Negros Orriental ako yung asawa ng Pinsan ko minsan nag tanong sya kung marunong daw ng Bisaya? Kasi ilonggo lang daw alam ko.
Tapos sabi ng iba Bisaya daw ang Ilonggo?
I speak both. I love watching this 😘🥰
Same
I speak Hiligaynon fluently and Bisaya almost fluent and I really enjoy this game..🤗
An old manuscript Maragtas of uncertain date (discovered by the anthropologist H. Otley Beyer)give interesting details about the laws, government, social customs, and religious beliefs of the early Visayans, who settled Panay within the first half of the 13th century.The term Visayan was first applied only to them and to their settlements eastward in the island of Negros, and northward in the smaller islands, which now compose the province of Romblon. In fact, even at the early part of Spanish colonialization of the Philippines, the Spaniards used the term Visayan only for these areas. While the people of Cebu, Bohol, and Leyte were for a long time known only as Pintados.The name Visayan was later extended to them because, as several of the early writers state (especially in the writings of the Jesuit Lorenza po Hervás y Panduro published in 1801), albeit erroneously, their languages are closely allied to the Visayan "language" of Panay.This fact indicates that the ancient people of Panay called themselves as Visayans, for the Spaniards would have otherwise simply referred to them as "people of the Panay". This self-reference as Visayans as well as the appellative (Panay - a riminescence of the State of Pannai) that these people give to the Island manifest a strong sign of their identification with the precursor civilization of the Srivijayan Empire.
pretty cool vid! great to watch different phrases and what not. im from iloilo but speak broken ilonggo lol
Fluent ako ng ilonggo at Cebuano .. Ang ng yari tatlo Ang ginagamit Kong language sa pang araw2 mix kung baga..mixing of ilonggo +Cebuano+ Tagalog plus English pa ..okay lang na mix yong salita ko sa place namin kasi nakakaintindi kasi kami ng Cebuano, Tagalog at ilonggo .
Kung tao pinag-usapan ilongga vs Cebuano yun ang tamang term dyan pero kung ang Pangalan NG Lengwahe pinag-usapan Hiligaynon vs Bisaya yun dapat ang tamang term dyan. But in General term, they're both Visaya.. 13:24
Nice!! Parehas kamu darwa gwapa.. 😍❤️
Thank you!! 😊
Nice challenge! Just shows Both Visayan languages are related!
Kaso kabudlay magsige'g tanaw sa sobra ka-conscious uy sigeg hikap sa buhok! 😆
i understand /speak both vernacular words...
vielen dank for this.
Sissies! 💘
mga miga nga mga gwapa 😍😍
All languages from Visayas and Mindanao are BISAYA family. For example languages from ROME, ITALY, SPAIN, FRANCE, ENGLISH and etc. are called LATIN languages.
Many people in the Visayas accept that they are Visayan, but non-Cebuanos will often argue that they are not Bisaya. Why? Because nowadays, Cebuanos almost own the term “Bisaya”, wherein if someone was asked if he/she is a Bisaya, people would automatically think of a Cebuano-speaking Visayan.
Bisaya Vs Hiligaynon (disrespectful/disturbing for other Hiligaynon speakers so refrain using Ilonggo as a dialect/language)
Ang Ganda nyong dalawa.. Nice
Bat ganon napaisip lng ako,kc karamihan pag nagsabi kc.hilongo vs bisaya bakit Ang hilongo tagalog ba Ang hilongo.bicol vs bisaya Ang bicolano tagalog ba Ang bicolano.tinonto eto?
Dapat sana hiligaynon(ilonggo/negrense) vs sugbuhanon(cebu)
indi ko mag ihaw sang ido kung wala KAGID.
dapat ara KAGID 😅✌
I can understand ilonggo but I can't speak it, my cousin speaks ilonggo and I speak bisaya to her and we understand each other but we just can't speak it lol and we rarely see each other so.. yea
Ilonggo is the people, Hiligaynon is the language tlg. Get it right ko. Both are Visayan languages! We all have a common ancestor, and pre colonial times we all migrated from Borneo Indonesia to Panay. Before that both the Proto Malay and Proto Indonesians came from the Philippines! We are all related. Panay ng Negros both lays in Western Visayas of Central Philippines. Bisaya is just an umbrella term.
Basta Ilongga kag Cebuana...pareho guapa....
I speak both the language,pero ilonggo ako nga dako
proud to be ilonggo, mas gusto ko ang ilonggo sang panay inang ga bawod bawod bala
nagdako abi ako sa mindanao lain ang ilonggo nmon kompara sa panay
dire ya ang mga ilonggo kung maghambal astig
sa Panay malambing, akig na pero lambing gyapon
ano po yung San-o ta ni ayhan ka kita isa ka libo sa dalan mn?
Kailan kaya tayo maka kita ng 1,000 pesos sa daan? Yun po Ang ibig sabihin ya kasi hiligaynon words at yan Ang salita ng mga Iloilo
Ang ganda nio dalawa
proud ilonggo here... CADIZ CITY to be exact,😊😊
Ang cute nyu pong pakinggan..
Ilonggo is also bisaya. It might be appropriate to change title to ilonggo vs Cebuano
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"diin naman ta makadto man" it should be - " saan na naman tayo pupunta" kasi mayrong "man" na ginamit.
"diin ta makadto" - saan tayo pupunta
Lolo ko tga antique pro d ako marunong mag ilonggo kc lumaki na ako sa mindanao, mga cousins ko lng marunong mag ilonggo kc tga negros sila. At ska may mga ibang tao sa mindanao marunong dn mag ilonggo tulad ng friend ko tga cotabato pro marunong sya mag speak ng bisaya at ilonggo.
Kapag marunong din po ng Cebuano, taga Gen San yun. Pero kung pure Ilonggo lang ang salita sa Mindanao, taga Cotabato or Sultan Kudarat po yun.
ano ibig sabhin ng pungulay/pungolay?
👹yan
Here in modern terminologies Bisaya has 3 meanings.
Bisaya that is the Cebuano speaking people, Bisaya that are the inhabitants of the Visayas region and Bisaya or Bisayan or Bisayanic that is a group of languages and so group of Visayan peoples.
An old manuscript Maragtas of uncertain date (discovered by the anthropologist H. Otley Beyer)give interesting details about the laws, government, social customs, and religious beliefs of the early Visayans, who settled Panay within the first half of the 13th century.The term Visayan was first applied only to them and to their settlements eastward in the island of Negros, and northward in the smaller islands, which now compose the province of Romblon. In fact, even at the early part of Spanish colonialization of the Philippines, the Spaniards used the term Visayan only for these areas. While the people of Cebu, Bohol, and Leyte were for a long time known only as Pintados.The name Visayan was later extended to them because, as several of the early writers state (especially in the writings of the Jesuit Lorenza po Hervás y Panduro published in 1801), albeit erroneously, their languages are closely allied to the Visayan "language" of Panay.This fact indicates that the ancient people of Panay called themselves as Visayans, for the Spaniards would have otherwise simply referred to them as "people of the Panay". This self-reference as Visayans as well as the appellative (Panay - a riminescence of the State of Pannai) that these people give to the Island manifest a strong sign of their identification with the precursor civilization of the Srivijayan Empire.
if im not mistaken, ILONGGO refers to a tribe while HILIGAYNON refers to certain vernacular dialect but somehow i enjoy watching you 😁
here in Mindanao specially in the province of north cotabato we speak hiligaynon, bisaya, karay-a, some muslim diact like maguindanaon , maranao 😁😊
PROUD ILONGGO/ANTIQUEÑO of NORTH COTABATO
Ilonggo gid ako ya 😊
Hiligaynon is spoken by a lot of people. Capiznons speak Hiligaynon, Ilonggos speak Hiligaynon, Negrenses speak Hiligaynon, Cotabateños also speak Hiligaynon. Ilonggo is a local identity of the person speaking the language. It’s just like Tagalog, Tagalog is the language. But the natives speaking that language have many different local backgrounds: Bataeño, Batangueño, Bulaqueño, Caviteño, Manileño, Mindoreño, Novo Ecijano, Tayabeño (Aurora-Quezon) and Rizaleño.
@@GaryHField and these local backgrounds is called dialects
you’re from north cotabato do you happen to be SDA? just testing a theory
@@miggy_lan SDA?
@@miggy_lan SDA is a false man made religion. Repent now
Isn’t it more proper to say Hiligaynon VS Cebuano?
Mahirap maging mahirap
@@joenelgarsola1523 Na walang katuturan. At sino ang tinutukoy mong mahirap? Ang Hiligaynon ay isang wikang Bisaya tulad ng Cebuano. Noon si Bisaya. Dapat Hiligaynon VS Cebuano! At ako si Ilonggo tlg.
@@kilipaki87oritahiti hirap mapag salita yon ibigsabihin..
@@joenelgarsola1523 Jesus ko tlg parehong Bisaya ang dalawang wika, kaya walang saysay na magdiskrimina... grabe!
People please, Note that Visaya(s) is just the English version of the term Bisaya(s).
Ilonggo and Bisaya mostly the same in some terms There are few things that need to know.awesome thoughts and idealistic.
*Cebuano
Dane is cute. Can she teach me how to speak Illongo? I was born in Iloilo and live in Guimaras Island but left at 5
Ilonggo Hiligaynon = Iloilo
Negrense Hiligaynon = Negros Occidental
Bacolodnon Hiligaynon = Bacolod
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Hiligaynon (language not dialect)
Ilonggo (people from Iloilo)
People from Iloilo are called Ilonggos.
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People from Negros Occidental are called Negrenses.
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People from Bacolod are called Bacolodnons.
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Some people in Iloilo City speak Kinaray-a.
I'm proud ilonggo visaya ko❤️
People living in visayas (ilonggo,Cebuano hiligaynon etc.)are bisaya
pagsinabi mong Latin parang Spanish agad pero pwedi ang Lati sa Spanish Portuguese Italian French and Romanian same din sa Bisaya common knowledge na Cebuano pero applicable din sa Hiligaynon Waray Capiznon Aklanon
Parang Romance languages lang ang Visayan languages
@@languagedude6568 true
Visayan is applicable but Bisaya is an informal.or coloquial term for Cebuano speaking people of Visayas and Mindanao and majority of Bisaya is not in Visayas but in mindanao
Indi lang sa ilo ilo may ilonggo/a may ara man sa koronadal hehe ara ko di😅
I am from Mindanao so I know both
Sup girls? New sub here! I know both dialects haha. My mother is from Cebu and my father is from Guimbal Iloilo. Hi sa mga ilonggo and bisaya dira!
Hindi dialects, languages*
@@kalvin3691 oh hi there. I just search google and yup, you're absolutely right. Thanks for correcting that up. Haha 🙏✌
@@Dazzle97 Salamat sa pagsabot nga dili to insulto.
Is it not that bisaya and ilongga are the same?
5:30 minsan mas kapani-paniwala pa ang JOKE, kaysa sa PROMISE
Not bisaya but Cebuano speaking,,,Iloilo and Cebu is both from Visayas where the dialect originated
ang ganda ng nka trike n damit
People in SOCCCSKSARGEN who can switch from Hiligaynon to Cebuano : 😏
Hahaha
It really do be like that
Haha yuh
I dont know ilonggo languange..but my Grandpa is ilonggo..im mix with taosug tribe and bajau..
Ka mga Gwapa SA ilonggo og sa bisaya oh ✌️✌️✌️
Why you both touch your hair.. did you not fix your hair before your show.. just asking..
VISAYA is a mother name nang tatlong itnic group... WARAY, CEBUANO at ILONGGO..
Visayan is a ethnic group consist 30 languages and 30 ethnics
Gwapahas longga ui😍
You mean hindi part ng visayas ang iloilo?
that is why bisaya/cebuano is the biggest spoken in philippines dahil pati hilagaynon parang bisaya lang.
Huo daw bisaya mn sya Kay dako gd Ang similarities huhu
Aw ikaw diay mai . Sure ikaw ni
Hi miss am here ilonggo AND THEN SPEAKING BISAYA FROM BACOLOD CITY 😍😍😍
Omg same
Anong BISAYA?? Sugbuanon ba ibig mong sabihin??
sa mga gusto ug goodvibes dha, bisitaha lang ako channel, sa mga bisaya dha kita kits
basta ilonggo ilongga gwapa 💓💓
Meron aqng tanung
you might consider changing the title of the video to Hiligaynon vs Cebuano
Kaon ta bala!
Kaon ta e!
Kaon ta anay ah!
Nagatuon ko Bisaya (Cebuano) ug namatikdan nako nga naay similaridad ang Cebuano sa Hiligaynon apan ang kalainan lang kay may tono ang pagsulti sa Hiligaynon samtang ang Sinugboanon mga diin lang.
Naglisudan ko sa pagsabot sa kalainan nilang duha kay hapit parehas ang Cebuano sa Hiligaynon.
Tatak man gyud sa mga Bisaya/Kabisay-an
Cebuano and ilonggo Bisaya it's not a dialect 🤣🤣🤣
@@chimp1893 bogo gid!!! Sa lahing BISAYA ang sugbuanon, waraynon, hiligaynon ay mga Dialects, kung sa GENERAL term mo gagamitin Ang BISAYA kasi LAHI yan Hindi man naging LANGUAGE yan taanga...Para mas maintindihan mo Ang Tawag sa mga taga Sugbu(cebu) sa kanilang sarili basi sa pinag mulan o Kultura SUGBUANON at nag sasalita sila ng SUGBUANON kung tatanongin mo kung anong lahi nila sasabihin sayo na BISAYA.. sugbuanon(BISAYA), waraynon(BISAYA), hiligaynon (BISAYA) at wag ka mag sabi ng VISAYA dahil walang "V" sa salita namin
Ilonggo challenge 24 hours for a day please 😊 illonggo ako
Mag paraffle naman kayo next time 😂😂😂
Malambing ang ilongo pakingan 🥶
Type ko din sya🥰 Ahhh kamukha nya si Bangus girl
nice idol ang galing nw mga gwapa mangod support here may friend 👍👍👍👍👍🇨🇿🇨🇿❤️❤️❤️🌹🌹🌹🌹
Cebuano and Hiligaynon are both languages.
Daming liguahe mga visaya iba iba bawat isla
Intra ko! Apil ko!
Kanami gid aaa😊😊😊
cool you guys are so cool
I like u both mga gwapa gd ah
The title alone is wrong.. should be Cebuano vs Hiligaynon...
Nami inyo video makalingaw.shout out sa inyo.