Mmusi Maimane On Leaving The DA, Julius Malema, Cyril Ramaphosa & 2024 Elections
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- In this episode of the Wide Awake Podcast, I spoke with Mmusi Maimane, the former leader of the Democratic Alliance and the current leader of Build One South Africa.
We talked about the reasons behind Mmusi's departure from the DA, his predictions for the outcome of the 2024 elections in South Africa, and discussed major issues like Load Shedding, Crime & Corruption, Cyril Ramaphosa, the National Health Insurance Bill, ANC, EFF and the future of South Africa.
Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - 2024 Elections
17:23 - Julius Malema & EFF
23:05 - What Will SA Look Like In 20 Years
29:05 - Why Mmusi Left The DA
39:48 - South Africa’s Biggest Issues
45:59 - Corruption
47:27 - Load Shedding & ANC
54:36 - NHI Bill & Cyril Ramaphosa
58:36 - Mmusi & Josh Share Disturbing Stories
If you enjoyed this episode don't forget to leave a Like and let me know who I should interview next!
Fadiel Adams should interview next!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please, Floyd Shivambu next interview.
I think an awesome podcast would be with the Snipr Team, I believe Anton Koen is the founder of No jack.
They find and recover stolen vehicles and works hand in hand with SAPS.
Motorist safety and awareness is so important.
Great interview. Didn't want it to end, it was that good.
This guy must join EFF
He is such a smart guy, i can listen to Mmusi for hours. We need more party leaders with his intelligence.
He should have been our president.
Yeah really makes me sad that the DA even though I think they have some hard working people especially at the lower levels were so blind as to chase away the person who seems born to lead this country.
Next election I'll be moving to bosa and seeing how I can get involved asap.
Unfortunately we pay to much attention to all the drama and shouting people not the real leaders like him
Mmsusi Maimane for president! I love this guy. His morals and beliefs is where the country needs to follow
Oh every blackmen is leader to you people Mmusi is not a leader he must stay in the church
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Mmusi...So real
I love this guy and I pray he would be our president! Maybe in the future he will be. God bless you Mmusi
I just became a fan of Mmusi Maimane, such a genuine man. Thanks for the great Podcast
Mmusi Maimana I am your fan another one thing give the young children's agood advise they are clever enough they like making babies ❤😂
I am a Ugandan and I wish we had someone like Maimane for our country. What a smart charismatic guy! RESPECT.
You have a banana republic dictator who only lectures 😹😹😹 i feel for you
@@icno123Museveni? He's still around?
The problem in Uganda is the current dictatorial regime tht suppresses the internationals of tht Beautiful Nation . Solution is to over throw the regime , ursher in a government tht will respect the laws of the land . Trust me young capable men & women will rise up to lead .
Mmusi Maimane, I can vote for your BOSA, you are now a political expert. You talk about real issues not populist politics, Good luck man.
True brother.
Definitely has my vote
A privilege to hear this conversation thank you
Josh, I love your heart and your passion for the voiceless
Thank you for all you do!
Enjoyed this interview so much. He seem like a great guy. And well educated
Do yourself a favour n listen to this full podcast.. Come guys if ever we want a respectful intellectual a forward thinker non corruptable president... let's get behind this guy also he has a foot on either side of the divide(a white wife n Coloured kids). He is like our rugby captain who held a team of diverse cultures together & we all witnessed the results of Kolisi & his team...let us be that team now at this elections .... Put your cross next to Mmusi Maimane n make this an intelligent SA Elections.. Let's kick all ignorant n corrupt Leaders to the Curb forever!!! FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. LET US TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY! STOP LIVING IN FEAR OF WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE... IT IS IN OUR POWER. Mmusi Maimane for PRESIDENT!!!
What a legend! One of those I would really listen to...... Says alot of Educationa back ground
An actual leader for South Africa!!!!!
Such a great man.. my take is that he should link with Gayton and Herman . These three will take the country into the next wave of progress. They just need to realign their policies into one coherent plan of action.
Criminals never !!
Not Gayton Herman yes
Gayton? 17 years for armed robbery. Armed robbery and now he fancies himself a politician.
Lol, Gayton is a gangster. Once a thug always a thug.
They can never work together as they clash in policies, i.e. Maimane want diplomatic talks about immigrants and Gayton wants mass deportation.
Man it would have been awesome to have a series like this with as many of the parties as possible before the election. Great work as usual!
The DA dropped the ball when they got rid of this man
For sure !
What makes me happy is; he also follow and like Julius Malema
That's what he said
He said malema is good at politics but would bankrupt the country very fast with his terrible economic ideas.
Do EFF people never listen. Julius could be a leader if he wasn't motivated by revenge now look MK already bigger than EFF.
"I have decided to join the DA because of Mmusi, as I deeply resonate with his message for a united and prosperous South Africa. I also voted for him in the provincial elections. His vision for our country aligns with my hopes and aspirations, but I believe it requires a strong and bold leader who can bring everyone together, despite our differences. Mmusi has the potential to be that unifying force, bridging the gaps between our diverse communities and fostering a sense of national unity. Moreover, we need a courageous leader like him to stand up against ideologues who seek to divide and destroy our country. I believe Mmusi can bring everyone together and lead the fight for a brighter future for all South Africans."
Excellent episode - thank you for creating this. Mmusi speaks with intelligence and his intentions are clear. South Africa desperately needs new leaders.
Great interview BOSA for the 2024 win. Definitely has my family's vote
I love this guy. It sommer makes me emotional. I am really really excited for this country!
I’m loving every moment of this. Thank you
Thought provoking interview. I’m so taken aback by how Mmusi knows intricate details of so many things and can rattle off figures and stats off the top of his head. Very interesting watch!
The country needs far more Mmusi's in government. What a great place it would be to live if that was the calibre of all the officials.
you have my vote .
He changes his answer on why he left the DA every time he is interviewed.
Because he signed a Confidentiality clause docs on what to say and not to say. Listen to all those who left the DA and see how the puzzle fits. One rebel who refused to signed was obviously Mashaba. Just my 50c opinion.
We all knew the reasons why he left yess it took time for him to be this clear but we all had an idea of the topical issues that made him leave
He left cz DA is a racist party, he's scared of whites
haven't heard Mmusi talk in a while, wasn't a big fan of him at the later stages with the DA but sounds like he's matured quite a bit. I won't lie, his views are pretty solid for 30 mins in.
I am also sure they are on your radar but would be great to have episodes with Herman Mashaba, Julius Malema and Pieter Groenewald.
@daniestrijdom8248 He should've done it a month before the elections. Now, I think it's too late
@@mojalefajacob4049He has been doing the rounds… Penuels podcast as well
He is very very v very intelligent but speaks in layman’s terms . Hits the nail on the head in many aspects
You now have my vote 🗳
The only politician talking sence
Great man, keep it up sir!🫡🇿🇦
Awuuu music we want nationalisation,we going vote for him EFF don't steal is not weak like you
Read about the Soviet Union. It will.make you think twice.
What a top class interview. When someone speaks with such clear plans how can you not give him a chance
This guy needs to be our president, I firmly believe that. I just don't think BOSA is running long enough to make the impact it wants right now. I hope they can gain momentum for the next election!
Glyton makenzi pa party is the man for the job
Notice how the most watched segment is the part about Julius
Am here for that part...
Cult memebers gonna cult
Great show. Interesting chat.
We need a realistic leaders like you Mmusi.
The great maimane🔥
I'm glad he's aware of the loss of Afrikaans voters to the VF+
Musi deserved more votes. Having him in charge of our youth/education would be super beneficial.
I waited in the queue for 6 hours to vote for BOSA. Musi is such a wholesome person, wow 🤎
Mmusi for president!!
Brilliant
He deserves to be our President ❤
Who's not buying EFF policies Mr Maimane???
i think is chest pain and you can see you wants to please his masters... he is captured
@tboygame8293 your brain is captured.
@@tboygame8293 Really ? By whom ? 🤔
@@tboygame8293so captured
Some ppl are delusional
The only good thing about this dude is that he nasalates English very well. But there's no forethought coming through.
Why is Julius on his “To Speak about” list?
Mmusi got hurt by DA rejection. The truth is he is politically illiterate. He has nothing to say about his own party.
Because while Julius does say a lot of possible racist & does instigate a lot… he does come with the outright truth as well. know thine enemy is a thing as well, there has to be some form of mutual respect, doesn’t mean you agree, but you can also learn a lot or teach a lot depending on the situation.
Sho.. huge content. I loved this .. ❤
DA shot themselves on the foot by frustrating Mmusi and not acknowledging his leadership quality, like Gyton said if you fail to work with such honorable leader of Mmusi's caliber you failed all black people in this country.
The time Mmusi was DA leader many black people were moving towards DA including myself and with this coming elections we were going to take the Government.
Well listening to Gayton is mistake number 1. What ex-convict now suddenly has an intelligent thing to say? He got 17 years for armed robbery. Threatened people with a weapon. I have standards and he doesn't even come close. The only black people he attracted were the radical racialistic ones. You were maybe 1 in a million. The DA has one of the best cross-racial candidates on the IEC website. A mixture of all races unlike the one colour other parties.
But he lost a lot of votes, and the DA is run like a company if you don’t deliver you have to account as to why you couldn’t deliver and he decided to resign and cry racism.. I personally feel like he’s a weak politician, could be a good priest but he’s too weak for politics
Did you watch the end of the add? #voteDA to #rescuseSA 🙏🇿🇦💙
DA is racist no black people will vote for DA
I need this podcast to air my story about what I experienced in a sector I worked on for 15 yrs.
I need this podcast to air my story as I'll expose corruption happening in mining, DMRE officials compromising the wellbeing of mine workers by allowing the operation to violate the rights of mine workers.
Through this, I want to be a mouthpiece of the mine workers, I'm waiting for invitation.
At 24:08 - Musi cites Tony Leon book and 'experiences' about Argentina. Interesting that he reads Leon's book/s.
Musi's talking politics when he refers to Malema as 'violent' - moreover, he is furthering the anxieties of White South Africa towards figures like Malema. Not all Black men speak and marry like him (like Musi) - He is stigmatizing Julius - he is stigmatizing Blackness.
Well said....thought that was very disingenuous of him, especially after Juju had spoken about the k*** the Boer mantra!
It saddens me that most political parties do not have a clear solution on the land problem, and that is the only thing that makes the EFF relevant. Most voters of the EFF are there because Julius Malema has a clear policy on the land, whether it's good or bad that's debatable. Alternative political parties have shown arrogance in discussing that matter, some say "Well if you want land you must buy it", forgetting that they are a political party and their job is to represent the needs of a voter, so far we see that those group of individuals have given the EFF 12% which made the EFF the third largest political party. I do not know a single policy that the DA, BOSA, FF+ and others have on land!
They can't, the want the status quo to remain...
We absolutely need to accelerate resolving the land issue, as it has been dragging on for 25 years (i.e., it should have been sorted in the first 5 years post-'94). I don't quite understand the support for the EFF's land policy, which essentially means only the government would own land. This approach diminishes the land's value, as it cannot be used to secure loans for development and cannot be passed down to children, thereby eliminating the potential for generational wealth. Or am I missing something?
God Bless you Musi!!
I voted for you brother. Man with a good vision. Can get his party structure good in the next 5years
This guy is very smart in political leadership and the future leader of south africa according his political capacity and qualification and he was reléase interview on Aljezeera before 6 years ago and he is having dynamic political capacity and he is not talking others
We want the extreme ❤️🔥
this guy has 1 life story - "LEAVING THE DA" 🤔
I think he's a pastor too
Well done Josh. See you soon bro.
I think the best option for sa would be a national government under a coalition of anc, da, eff and small parties combined
"Never let a pregnant woman go hungry"
This hits hard...it's been 7 months of back and forth trying to get both my perternity and my partners maternity funds
Although all documents needed are present we keep getting rejected
We are in our late 20s and have both Never received the srd grant ,uif payments or sassa
She had to cut her maternity leave short as we couldn't cope on one salary
No government assistance when needed but you best believe that deductions are coming off the pay each month
I can't see a future for my daughter in a country that's on the brink of civil war
Mmusi Maimane and Lindiwe Mazibuko Where the 2 people who made me think the DA was the answer and i was left adrift when they left as they are the type of people i see leading SA .
I really hope that people vote for your party. You would make a great President and create the change that South Africa desperately needs, which is why I wish you remained in the DA. I understand the reasons why you left but it could have made it easier for you to achieve your objective.
Can’t wait to vote for him.
...I have loads of respect for this guy. Yes I also have loads of blame against him. I wonder what lured him to join the National Party (mistake Number 1). He is a great rational thinker, very calculative, patriotic. Unfortunately Afrikan politics is changing; it needs a mix of academic approach and a revolutionary conflation. Good example is the Sahel. Panacea is Afrikan or pan-Afrikanist solution is to conflate our administrative, constructive and political ideas with risk. With that said, Musi Maimane would add a great deal of validity if he aligned himself with THE EFF. I am saying this because EFF encamps itself in both worlds to fight for the down-trodden. One cannot allow 3% to control 94% of the population. At the same time, fear-mongering that taking the economy away from us will destroy the livelihoods of 97% population.
Why the hell to Afrikans allow such stupid rhetoric? I urge Maimane to Vote with EFF. I do so for the good of our ancestral heritage. All success stories are preceded by risk. CALL MALEMA AND TURN THE TABLES. YOU WILL THANK ME LATER.
DA certainly don’t come across as being “old” when you look at Mayors like Gordon Hill Lewis and others…
I believe he is talking about the whole ANC vs DA domination in politics is running on its last legs… while the DA does outperform ANC in many respects, but they still do have their own failings as well…
Some points were valid but about EFF and Julius you are wrong. Julias is for people both white and black but he needs equality between black and white
The advert: The flag was burning under the EFF and ANC and then reverted back to the normal flag and reversed the burning
It was an extreme ad… think the PR team needs to be fired😂 not a good idea, especially when it was just a little after the whole Palestine win
Musi, please form a joint party with Herman Mashaba. I don't know why you didn't. ❤
Because both of them want to be the BOSS.
Thanks for this video!
19:47 equality, that's why.
I am Australian and i have studied the issue in Cape Town and the Number itself.It is a black African organisation & non Africans were not allowed to join until around the 1960's,recruited by members from Langa and Gugulethu.The point is that i don't understand why the full story is not told.
That’s not the DA . Helen Zille fought hard against apartheid from 1960s relentlessly and was DP and still doing it as DA . You have in every party a few who should not be in your party but DA definitely definitely cares about all nations and it’s sad people are not educated about facts About DA ‘s policies and think DA practice white supremacy rubbish and DA care a lot about the poor
I think Mmusi has a great heart and he’s a great guy, that’s not what South Africa needs right now.. he should rule when the tables are equal, the South Africa we have right now needs Patriots not good hearted men who won’t fight for black people’s real freedom… the day we have the land back, mines, minerals, consumed South African products manufactured locally… that’ll be the day for good hearted men space to take over the reins
Mmusi, I like your leadership. You need to do more to arise than EFF
You are realy a gantleman i like your idea
Please get juju here
This guy is smart
Imagine Chris Pappas and Mmusi teamed up together!!
for the first time i listened Mmusi and he is not a leader... leaders they are not bias
Glad you left the DA if only the people especially of color could open their eyes and understand how they are being used , on that note , i couldn't help but notice you have not once recognized that our nation is not only black and white
I really feel unsafe everyday
Politics of fighting for the crumbs
Can you bring Mpho Dagada please
Josh why don’t you interview Fadiel Adams of the NCC ?
Yeah Josh, get Fadiel Adams .
Yes let's get our prez for a interview like this😎...NCC
Back when we needed him most
Maimane has been hopping from one party to another.....politicians are just good actors, lots of talk to please the masses, political parties are failing us!! 😭
Stop hating, Maimane means good he left the DA because it was bad for blacks meaning he has morals and etics
Mmusi is politically bankrupt. He has nothing to offer, not even to his own party. According to Mmusi, blacks should fight to remain poor because he is afraid to disturb the whites in this country.
Yes I agree and I worked in a bad job but did I write a book? He needs money.
The only issue I have with Mmusi is he is a Liverpool fan 😅
Who is people???
🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦Problems in South Africa are complex, you have to dissect them until the smallest molecules and atoms.
Mmusi is a wonderful guy, good intentions and a good human being but the problems in SA need you to disrupt and to disturb the culture.
I can vote X3, for a party/individual I never tried before;
I want to go to the EFF (because they were the hardest working party, unambiguous and have a conviction to disrupt and change the culture) but some features about their members who are opportunistic have proved to have a price tag on their forehead,
then the ACDP which I think Mmusi should have joined. ACDP because they're not too liberal but conservative.
Definitely not going to the twins the ANC or DA because of my experiences with them👎
Scary to think he got 0.41% of the vote while the DA got 21% and ANC 41% (100 times more)
He is so much more intelligent and sensible than Ramaphosa or Steenhuisen
I hope they get to fund some major campaigns and get noticed for the next election
In 1994 land was given to many of the African nation and many did not want it. Ask Kodwa from Cope. We need a South Africa like we all mixed together this year when we won the rugby World Cup and Hillsong church on Sunday . One nation building together
To be honest with you maimane you should have joined eff
Too weak and he doesn’t want to be held to account, would never survive under Juju at the same time he always wants to lead but fact is he’s not an excellent leader hence he failed under the DA , he just doesn’t want to admit it
Poor guy
The EFF is the only party that can give us the change we needed in 1994.
Mmusi is so well spoken, sad that he was just used by DA!
This White guy interviewing Mmusi has my vote, I believe him and hes 1000% genuine and non racist, I wish more white guys were like him, South Africa would be a better country, Hes more black than Mmusi, Mmusi on the other hand i dont believe anything he says im sorry, hes a great speaker but i dont trust him, he waited untill the white people kicked him out to speak on the unjustices towards black people and to speak on black struggles.
Sad his not going to win cause he'd take us forward
Dropping less frequent broski, you alright??
We will vote for EFF and He will be president
True
Then you are dom
Zuma told wena slima.. abelungu were using YOU
Uma ayisilima wena uyini?
Exactly