Every Kanonical Death in Mortal Kombat | Canon Ball
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Mortal kombat really likes killing off characters and then bringing them back through any way possible
its almost like predicating a series on your main cast brutally dying isnt something you can do for so long without making new characters or re-using the ones you've already killed. Its an inherent flaw in the series narrative imo.
Tells you a lot about MK when there’s like 10 different ways to come back to life all with various pros and cons
Guess that’s why netherrealm got into DC comic games
It’s like having your favorite toys fight, only for you being torn between killing them and not wanting to.
@@ItsOver9000Productions They could have fixed it by using the legacy skins. Injustice 2 used them pretty well, but characters with extremely similar moveset could just be divided into variations
I remember a developer once mentioning Goro being dead in MK11, which is why he's dead in his lair XD
i never expected you here
I expected you here
I didn't know what to expect.
@@historiankid8658 nobody expects the Spanish inquisition
@@imwastingyourtimealexxd3579 Exactamente.
I like that you point out the deaths during MK9's Armageddon intro regarding Scorpion and Sub-Zero but it should be noted how the writers conveniently forget that specters/wraiths cannot die by normal means as it was stated by Scorpion himself in the original timeline that “you cannot kill a dead man, you have defeated my physical form but my soul is eternal” and the only ways for them to die is either by soulnados (even though Noob Saibot somehow survived) or by powerful artifacts like Shinnok’s amulet.
I also find it hilarious that Baraka somehow murdered Sub-Zero during Armageddon despite Baraka being one of the biggest jobbers in MK history aside from Kano.
Clearly, Baraka snuck up on him. In a straight fight, he'd have no chance.
@@The4thSnake unless a uninformed writer for some reason gives him plot armor to defeat Sub-Zero in a hypothetical story chapter.
True In Armageddon unless in shao kahn with blaze power it doesn't make sense
I like to think that in reality someone tear off baraka's arm and used it to kill sub-zero
@@donpan1843 That would be funny.
That bit when sindel killed everyone had me laughing.
And people complain about D'Vorah.
I mean, ok, D'Vorah Is a bitch and doesn't deserve such big time kills, but man, Sindel's rampage seems something straight out of a power fantasy fanfic. She even killed Stryker!
@@mqfii8992 At least they went out of their way to explain why she has such a massive power up as opposed to MK10 & 11 where they pull power ups out of their asses.
@@mqfii8992 but D’Vorah was also a newcomer too so that probably contributes to it. That’s probably why it didn’t bother them as much as D’Vorah. Because sindel has been there since mk3.
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 True.
Although this was also probably the biggest display of plot armor I've ever seen, given the only survivors of this attack are fookin' JOHNNY CAGE AND SONYA
@@mqfii8992 I cannot specify enough how much I hate those two pricks. They're not special whatsoever. I don't want some G.I Joe crap, I want magic ninjas and other cool shit! Literally they want me to believe that a daughter of those two chumps can beat an Elder God despite them getting one shotted by Shao Kahn in MK9 and only through the combined might of the Elder God's possessing and powering up Raiden did he even stand a chance. "(But but Johnny's power is from a tribe that are made to fight against gods...)" Yes, a kid with no fucking training on her power up whatsoever until the very last moment at the end will defeat a corrupted powered Elder God. Piss off. Seriously, modern writers these days need to go back to writing school or just stay out of beloved franchises because they only muck things up even more for talented and caring writers to clean up their dogshit.
Whenever people ask me why retcons can suck in any piece of media, especially when multiple writers are responsible for making the stories instead of one person, I’m just gonna show them this video.
Dragon Ball and Mortal Kombat seems to love retconning things.
Inuyasha/Yashahime is the one I've started citing now, since they retconned Sesshoumaru into a straight-up groomer.
@@VOAN don't forget naruto
@@nicholasfarrell5981 ...What?
@@Ergeniz two of the main characters in Yashahime are Sesshoumaru and Rin's daughters, whom Rin had when she was 18. It makes . . . a lot of their story in the OG series really uncomfortable to watch, especially the part in the end where we see that Sesshoumaru brings Rin gifts all the time (when she was still a child, mind you).
Dang, poor Johnny died three times in the original timeline? My man suffered.
He was the Yamcha of MK in the original timeline 😆
He died in a Bloodstorm.
@@BATCHARRO ayye someone gets it.
@@BATCHARRO *_Ha!_*
@@lukejones7164 I wish they kept him that way honestly. This 'mysterious godly power' BS they gave him is nonsense.
Honestly gotta feel bad for Liu Kang... In literally every timeline Kronika's plan involved Liu Kang dying in one way or another...
He's the Kenny of mortal kombat.
I mean, she had to have had a hunch that he would beat her ass if he could. And look, he did
Y'notice how, aside from Shaolin Monks, the OG timeline wasn't nearly as overbearing in deaths? Both in number, and in how the characters died? Mavado's death in the comics is the best example IMO; killed gruesomely by two characters that canonically wouldn't go that far.
Yeah, I noticed the Netherrealm era deaths made me feel a lot worse than the original era deaths(outside Shaolin Monks). A good example is Liu Kang’s deaths. In Deadly Alliance he dies by having his neck snapped, in MK9 he dies from being burned alive by lightning, and in MK11 he has his soul stolen by future him, at best becoming a nearly dead husk.
Tremor has pre-fight dialogues with Kano that seem to confirm he survived the gunshot from Sonya. He states Kano left him for dead & another saying to Kano he leaving the Black Dragon. Another interesting one being his ending seeming to have happened
MK characters losing to guns is always hilarious
@@galactic1555they may know a million different ways to kick your ass, but as long as you got a gun you can kill pretty much all of them 💀
@@bandawin18 Meanwhile Erron Black goes from being one of the most threatening characters to just one lackey who shoots like a stormtrooper
@@perm1thurple581 that has annoyed me so much, like of all the Outworld villains to kill a main character you'd think it'd be Erron Black but they have D'vorah do that? THREE TIMES? Naaaah bro Erron can't even shoot anyone ONCE and D'vorah gets to kill Baraka, Mileena AND Scorpion? I swear they just don't know how to write villain roles and just give everybody plot armor. Like at least let the good guys suffer a loss or two if you're just gonna reboot the whole thing at the end anyway 🤦♂️
@@bandawin18 It still baffles me that she was able to kill Scorpion. Her ass has so much plot armor its insane.
Raiden: "Mortal Kombat doesn't mean death, but life."
The4thSnake: Shut up, Raiden.
Lol!
4th Snake is a better Raiden anyway
Kronika: shut up, The4thSnake
HAHAHA HAHA yeah 😆 hahaha so funny tee hee
I'm now curious in what context that quote could possible make any sense
Lost it at that part. 🤣🤣🤣
Something you forgot to mention,the reason the Elder Gods fought the One Being in the first place was because it consumed them. So in other words,killing them.
Feeding off them, which I take to mean forcefully stealing their energies. You can do that without killing a target if you do so slowly.
...Come to think of it, the Elder God's were entirely justified in what they did.
Isn't Onaga like have a portion of the One Being or something?
@@Yokai_Yuri The One Being was explicitly said to be subtly influencing both Onaga and Shao Khan which is why they both sought conquest.
@@Yokai_Yuri I think that's the Kamidogu. The One Being just manipulates Onaga and Shao Kahn.
"Despite having their souls taken, Raiden and Fujin survive."
Yeah I was like "wait what?" when that happened.
Didn’t Shang Tsung not *fully* take their souls? I always assumed that he must’ve left enough for them to still be alive
@@shadow-squid4872 Oh so Souls can be partially consumed now? Like a martini drink? This is some nonsense.
@@ErgenizI mean it's always been like that, in every media ever. Lol.
@@shadow-squid4872that’s what I was thinking, because they also didn’t whither as much as Shao and Sindel.
@@Ergeniz I mean it sounds kinda silly but this is fictional soul-sucking magic we’re talking about. I’m sure taking most of their soul kept them alive but made them emotionless enough to be his slaves as seen in the Shang ending, at least that’s how I’m pretty sure it worked
Considering how every single one of kahn's deaths ended up being noncannon, MK9 Raiden could have suggested something like "burn the body" instead of he must win. Like just have Liu Kang completely incinerate the body after the MK2 tournament or have raiden destroy it himself to ensure he is actually canonically dead. This could lead to the last portion of the MK9 story being more interesting by having outworld trying a war not for conquest but for revenge and killing more people that way.
But then again… considering shao Kahn is a god himself so he would probs come back just like raiden did in deception. Gods in MK have another form
Shao Kahn Is that one kid In school who always pulls the "Uh, uh, uh! It was actually a hologram/double/clone/illusion of me!"
@@nabilahmed579 That is true, Fujin's profile on armageddon does say they are supposed to come back as blank slates but who knows if they would keep that bit of lore.
Present Shao Kahn died at the end of MK9, the one in MK11 is from the past time merger.
The visions were not of a decided future but were kronikas way of making lui kang and raiden fight. So raiden didn't send a message to his past self at all.
Actually Stryker didn't die by kano lasering him in the chest, he was only knocked out for a little bit because in a few minutes he gets back up and gets blasted off the pyramid by Shang Tsung. Also my headcannon for why Shang Tsung was turning old when Liu grabbed a hold of him was telling us that Shao was killed by Onaga because in Shang's bio it says if Shao died those who served under him would die. (But mk9 retconned that but the Armageddon we see in 9 isn't the same one we saw in the Midway timeline.)
Wow, this actually makes sense.
I always assumed that Zombie Liu chains had some magic that was draining Shang’s life force, but your head cannon makes a lot more sense
The followers of Kahn dying if he does doesn't fit with the rest of the canon. For example, why did Shang try to kill him in MKDA if he already knew this was the case?
@@The4thSnake I believe it wasnt about Shao's followers. Shang was specifically resurrected by Shao Kahn so he was kind of bound to Shao Kahn's life. Shao died offscreen so Shang Tsung decayed rapidly
@@The4thSnake Shang said he thought it was just some empty vow. "Long ago I had pledged my soul to the emperor. That pledge was binding even beyond death. But if he were to die, so too would those who served him. At the time I believed it to be merely another empty vow, yet here I am."
I imagine Shang Thung said “Havok will keep him entertained” not realizing he was still alive. Fujin said they could view the events of the battle as it but were powerless to interfere so how much they could view beyond that is unclear.
Or his past self
I always thought that past Havik was taken to the present due to time merger
It's pretty much confirmed. I think.
Cassie Vs. Shang Tsung matchup, Shang Tsung doesn't know the fact that Cassie beat Shinnok.
And that was in Earthrealm, not in Chaosrealm.
I do kinda love the idea Havik just can't die thanks to Chaosrealm saying "fuck reason and logic" and just makes himself a new body
The Water, Fire, and Earth Gods seem to take a lot of Ls even though we only get to see them once.
The gods really aren’t respected well in mk except for fujin
@@nabilahmed579 God seems more like an honorific than one actually representative of power or fighting prowess. In fact IIRC Ed Boon said that Raiden could be killed with a shotgun.
@@Ergeniz then at that point, what even is the point of gods? Bcoz some few people on a roster can just have plot armor and the gods are gone and dusted.
It really undermines them as threats if that really was the case. Heck, it kinda shits on the hype of dark raiden in being this badass thunder diety that basically goes the punisher route but pretty much a loose cannon.
But hey… I’m not a developer so we can only know so much about something in particular
@@nabilahmed579 I guess you could you call them 'gods' on the sense they are immortal and tend to regenerate even if defeated + their origins. But referring to them as 'gods' in the power sense is invalid, at least compared to other fiction. There is nothing depicted in MK that rises above street or wall level. No-one is even fast enough to be a bullet timer.
Corrections and Clarifications:
-Stryker appears again after getting lasered to get blasted off the pyramid by Shang Tsung.
-Pointing out every time I used a C instead of switching to a K just for the MK gimmick is neither clever nor original.
-John Vogel confirmed Kahn killed Blaze.
Oh ok that was quick. lol
Missed opportunity of saying "Korrektions and Klarifikations".
"John Vogel confirmed Kahn killed Blaze." The whole thing hinged in whoever killed Blaze getting a bunch of powers...and Shao Khan seemed to have those powers in the intro to MK9. Where people confused by this that they needed confirmation? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
@@BATCHARRO The energy aura is even orange.
During the MK11 boat assault, after Kung Lao is thrown overboard and just before Kotal Kan't Keep his head on, Jade is thrown violently through the floor of the ship and we never see her again, though I could see why this could go either way.
MK has the most inconsistent lore but the characters make up for it
Liu Kang in general: I respect all life and do my best not to kill.
Liu Kang in Shaolin Monks: Ha ha, murder goes brrr!
I think in terms of actual deaths, MK should find a nice balance between Walking Dead and Code Lyoko way of writing death. (I swear I'm going somewhere with this.)
Walking Dead's deaths, both for the show and the comics, combine two factors: The fact that the cast is only made of ordinary humans, some with better survival skills than others, so anyone can be gone in the next page or the next episode just like that. (Kinda like Bourbon Kid's style too.) It's their personalities that dictate their fates, but no one escapes death forever.
Code Lyoko has only two main deaths in the series, Franz Hopper who represents the past mistakes of a paranoid man, and XANA who is the main threat. However, despite being kids, the heroes are constantly under massive threats that are taken seriously and never trivialized. (In fact, the only times the heroes act cocky, they get their sh** pushed in, hard, and that's why the threat is still effective even if no kid actually die.) (Also the two deaths are extremely big moments, the first being a massive shock and the second being a relief before melancholia steps in.)
MK, with all of its rituals and magics can absolutely bring characters back to life logically. (Especially since there is so many ways you can still be around after death in the MK universe.) So that's why I'm talking about fusing Walking Dead and Code Lyoko's ways of writing death.
Just like in Walking Dead, heroes need to make mistakes and pay the prices, but don't just bring out Stryker or Johnny Cage to have them die, that's boring, that's too predictable. No. Instead, some of the more well-known heroes should be allowed to make human mistakes, bad judgments or sacrifices to have them die. That could open so many new possibilities for the characters since, like in Code Lyoko, being under constant harm or badly injured, or even killed in this case, doesn't mean it's the end for you. (Which is why I love time loop stories.)
So just like Code Lyoko, or DBZ, death can taken into being an actual part of a character journey, like how Scorpion needs to die for his story to progress. Sure in real life we don't have multiple shot at life, but these resurrections can be seen as symbolic, like some characters need to left their old-self behind to continue progressing. Plus it's fiction, we need for it to be believable not truthful.
Death is only a tool and it should be used appropriately.
For example, a plot point I created and will defend until my last breath: Stryker and Kabal's story could be, in a reboot, a four ways relation with some aged-down Kobra and Kira who are just some petty street kids doing bad things to annoy them but ultimately respecting them. Stryker being one of the more normal fighters of the series, I agree it makes sense for him to die, maybe against Sindel in a more reasonable reinterpretation of the massacre scene from 2011. Here Stryker would die but his death would deeply impact three other characters, the two kids he swore to protect even if they didn't appreciate him enough during his time as a human, and his life-long reformed partner, and all three will react to his death differently. Kobra and Kira could have a massive split-up argument, Kobra becomes obsessed with strength and in grief joins Havik to destroy reality, Kira could either turn to magic or the special forces to find ways with expeditions to resurect the dead, and Kabal could either become a stricter person or find his trust in the police wavering.
Considering how neat-tied all of the characters, Midway and Netherealm alike, are to one another, every death shouldn't be about who deserved to live or who didn't, it should be about the impact. Life doesn't work that way, and it could break the immersion otherwise if every deaths felt rewarding or earned. Sure, some deaths could feel disappointing, but if the writers manage to show just how badly it affects the others and make them develop instead of the character that died, then I'd say it's well-written.
Also Geras and Erron Black would either be the perfect narrator characters, or the perfect overseers that could show us the audience every possible path for a character. (I think Erron Black stumbling onto Geras and the Hourglass after he seized it from Kronika, on accident, and becoming friends with him would be incredibly interesting.)
Man, Code Lyoko was such an underrated show.
Even though I knew that the conflict was most likely being solved by the end of the episode, seeing everyone about to die horribly In each episode gave me dread.
Note: That episode where the coach made a stand against a bunch of XANAs with one of their lasers, where gravity was inverted, the two kids got stuck In a boiling room and the nerd one was dying as soon as the day reset started got imbedded into my head.
@@mqfii8992 As a french kid, even if it's not taken very seriously, I can assure you that this show is iconic. Every teens know the intro.
@@realfromtherealreality4148 As a Brazilian boi, I assure you the show was popular during its run and I've met some fans at conventions.
Though overall, the show was forgotten over time.
Netherrealm, can you hire this fella? Please?
Great post
I still find the time travel rules in 11 to be stupid. You time travel, you break continuity so whatever happens to you has no effect on any other instance of yourself and vice versa. I think that's what makes sense. That said, MK11's story exactly as presented would fundamentally not work with those rules, with Cassie and Past Sonya being the main reasons. If Sonya broke continuity before Cassie was born and did not come back at any point, then Cassie cannot exist because Sonya did not exist to give birth to her.
Time travel is fucked.
Weeeellllllll..........
Ngl I think they did it by those rules to raise the stakes higher.
time travel will always be fucked in every media
especially if you put Christopher Nolan on it
top notch as always Snake. although I still think Jon Vogal's quote from Shao Kahn's bio kard really sums up how pointless this series has gotten: "no one really ever dies in Mortal Kombat." and you wonder why I think the game's have been poorly written ever since John Tobias left.
on a side note, I'm kind of wondering when we will ever get to see that MKII comparison video you've mentioned doing a while back. when you've mentioned Shaolin Monks, I thought in the back of mind "oh yeah, he was going to make that at some point." well, whenever that video does come out, I'm sure you will put in the same level of quality and thought as you always do. I'm looking forward to it either way whenever that may be. ^-^
Indeed, i always thought they never really get the job done ever since Tobias left
Even in the original 4 games when Tobias was around, there were no deaths with any real consequences except for Bi-Han and Motaro. Everyone else who got killed during the first 4 games either immediately came back to life in the next game (Mileena, Johnny Cage) or had their death retconned in the next game (Goro, Kung Lao).
Mortal Kombat had always been like DragonBall when it comes to death 😆.
@@lukejones7164 I disagree with the DragonBall reference. despite the lack of character deaths, there were steaks and events going on that kept the story moving forward. DragonBall was so obsessed with power levels that it got ridiculous overtime, and at least MK doesn't have 50 episodes of a 5 minute fight where characters just scream at the camera powering up for eternity. so, no I don't agree with that analogy at all.
God that was a LOT of MK lore to attempt to digest in one sitting.
Given that Havok is a total mystery and very inconsistent in what can really kill him (he breaks his own knees to fire a projectile and somehow bounces back up without a problem), getting his head crushed might not have been the correct way to kill him.
Especially now that one of Dairou's moves in MK1 literally crushes his head
I think Tremor is still alive after being shot according to the wiki, although it could be off and unfortunately he doesn't have any story time.
So about Havik, he's from Chaosrealm which apparently makes the people from that pretty much immortal because of how messed up it is there. Him getting his head smashed is just an average Wednesday for him.
I never viewed it that way. I think Chaosrealmers can be killed depending on how it’s done. It’s just tougher considering death is a law of nature and therefore they naturally resist it. I never saw them as invincible or un-killable
@@thatoneguy1232 They're not invincible, but they pretty much can't be killed, it's one of the main reasons why Order Realm hates Chaos Realm so much. Their very existence messes with the natural order of life. You can incapacitate them but putting them for good is a fools errand.
Throwing Havik off the Sky Temple in Deception is never not gonna be funny.
Never knew how Johnny died, also didn't pay attention to the flashbacks, knowing that he was about to die in MK9 but Raiden saved him, he didn't fail at everything
When Kronika wiped Dark Raiden from history, the alternate timeline at which he started recieving visions continued from the point Kronika wiped Dark Raiden. At the point where Raiden started the visions all Earthrealm fighters including Johnny were present which is why Johnny & them were present once the merger occurred.
@@Kentrc11 Making up for shitty writing eh?
Oh my god a Kill Count on the Mortal Kombat Games would be amazing, also have you ever thought about doing Playthroughs?
He has a gaming channel tho he rarely uploads
If you havent seen it already Dead Meat uploaded kill counts of MK9 and MKX!
The original timeline didn't have that many deaths (besides the non-canon Shaolin Monks).
Also, you forgot one canon death, Jade killing Tanya in Deception. And Reptile was said to have actually survived the end of Deception when Shujinko beat down Onaga and Nightwolf removed Onaga's spirit from Reptile's body.
Is that canon? The jar of Tarkatan essence 😂? Jade somehow got her hands on it…don’t ask where, splashed Tanya, and got her killed by Tarkatans?😅 you know what I’m sure Shang being the freak that he is had some left over from when he made Mileena lol. Maybe Jade got it from the flesh pits
@@thatoneguy1232 Well, Tanya's Armageddon bio did state that she died in Deception because of Jade but it didn't say how lol.
@@thatoneguy1232Does it really matter what Canon and what's not Canon?
I think it's totally possible that Havik survived (even though it seems stupid) because this is the guy who literally destroys his body for his special moves. So it's totally possible that he could've survived!
Love your videos by the way
I mean, death Is a logical conclusion for his head getting crushed, but Havik's whole ordeal Is being the opposite of logical.
I always thought tavens arcade ending was canon because it says him killing blaze only powered up the other kombatants making the battle even more fierce, in the end aftee being powered up, shao kahn and raiden are the last 2 fighters
John Vogel confirmed Kahn killed Blaze.
@@The4thSnake Damn well that sucks, that basically tarnishes MKAs conquest ending cus Taven doesn’t even manage to kill Blaze after everything he went through
This is mi head canon now
Still did kintaro dirty. I guarantee he would beat sheeva
No one really stays dead in MK. Except for Hsu Hao. He's gonna stay dead, lol.
Also Kobra, that guy sucks and is just a Ken ripoff. He needs to stay dead as well.
Hsu Hao is too unpopular not to come back. I know that sounds contradictory, but it's the truth.
Hsu Hao doesn’t stay dead but he does keep dying. Not sure if canon but in DA Jax does kill him. He’s back in Armageddon and knocks himself off the pyramid along with Cage. In the MKX comic Scorpion puts a hole in his face but in MK11 Erron somehow has his head…face still in tact 😂
Liu Lang's ending in MK3 stated that Kung Lao dies to Shao Kahn in MK3, but was retconned in MK:Gold to him surviving the beating.
Also, I always thought Shao Kahn's defeat animation in MK3 was meant to represent all the souls he'd taken during earthrealm's merger being released, then Kahn himself being sent back to Outworld. This might make that animation possibly canon.
I don't consider Kung Lao's death as being considered canonical at any point, since it's not brought up in MK4 until his return in Gold.
According to MK Gold, Kung Lao merely faked his death in MK3 in order to motivate Liu Kang into beating Shao Kahn.
@@lukejones7164 That's hilarious, and ridiculous. Though it worked, was kind of a dick move for a hero. The mk Devs always did have a good sense of humour though.
@@siegfriedc2332 Always have, Raiden's MK1 ending results in the world being destroyed and Shang Tsung's MK2 ending involves him taking Kahn's place as ruler of the realms. Both end with "Have A Nice Day."
@@InfernoScorpion14 Yeah, I remember those. Shame they didn't keep the "Have a nice day" trend going in MK3.
In the original timeline, Shao Kahn manage to live from MK 2 to Armageddon, despite many of us fans thinking that he died in the MK 3, Deadly Alliance, and eventually Armageddon cutscenes. This guy lived longer than the Mortal Kombat Champion Liu Kang. In my opinion, I think the bad guys in this franchise were written better than their future selves, but I'm still not sure how each of them survived in detail since Armageddon was a "Why not have everyone back" game.
Great video you just earned a new sub my guy keep the content coming🔥
A running gag in the Midway timeline alone is "This person died, but this is not the case" or "this was not canonical." Not a complaint, just something I found kinda funny.
This video has made MK no less confusing
Love it tho
This series needs new writers who understand canon and continuity
Amazing! That took alot more time than people would think
I always suspected Mortal Kombat isn't "Mortal" at all. Everyone just lives.
One might think, given the assume nature of the tournament only the champion of every iteration should survive. But no... Everyone lives. They "kill a double" "somehow survive his wounds" "is saved by someone" "can reform after death" "Writers says it doesn't count" etc... So the word "Mortal" is meaningless, there is no stakes. Just like in the comics only uncle Ben and Batman's parents are allowed to die for real. Only some characters are really really dead, ike for real.... until the reappear in other reboot, retcon, sequel, or what writers say.
Yeah, it’s a big problem with a lot of comics. Even if the death is a good send off to a character they can never let them rest. It makes any emotional death scene in comics more eye rolling than emotional.
Immortal Kombat.
It's been ages since DC vs MK came out and I am now just realizing my family name on that gravestone at 0:15 lmfao FUCKING SWEET
They say death isn't permanent in the series, but for some characters yeah sorry to say that isn't the case
Thank you for this video. All the deaths and who is still alive really got confusing to stay on tracks.
dang this was a really cool video I didn't think you were gonna include the comics
Great video man
The way u say “again” acouple times in this is funny to me
MkDA earthrealm warriors really took the L in that War.(Ik Onaga revives them but still)
Great video as usual Snake!
This is a bit off-topic, but I was reminded about it because of MK1 Liu Kang's bio. Have you ever done a Khronicles on Liu Chow, Kang's brother, and go into detail on why his whereabouts are unknown during the events of MK1?
Yes. Chapter 30.
I chalk MK11 Sindel to being a resurrected version of her from when she was enthralled by Shang Tsung's magick into being a thrall to Shao Khan and thus willing to lie to Kitana in a way that would hurt her daughter the most, since that would please her new husband. MK12 could reveal that the "real" Sindel is still inside her somewhere, or have the "real" version of her emerge from another timeline.
thanks for the video
Wait I just realized. Does sindel have the highest amount of kills on screen?
Yes, until they retcon it and say D'vorah actually killed everyone.
Great video!
Mortal Kombat is the only media franchise I can think of where they retconned it so many times that retconning became part of the story.
Netherrealm Studios should have continue with Taven's ending in Armageddon.
You forgot to include the death of good storytelling in MK11
No. He didn't forget that.
@@Ergeniz Because no one can
Honestly, much as I don't mind the character, all of poor Sheeva's deaths are pretty hilarious: out of the loop enough to trust Kano even though he's Mr. Betrays Everyone (Except Kabal Weirdly) causing her to die Shao Khan, then resurrected to seemingly be the only "bad guy" to visibly get gang-upped on and killed in the original timeline during Armageddon despite being one of the least evil Outworld characters, and then dying to Twindel unceremoniously after being stupid enough to bring her back *and* think her a good person like actual Sindel. Poor bastard.
Also I guess this means of canon characters, the only ones without (implied) canon deaths at all--ignoring Kronika wiping the timeline--are the Kombat Kids (though Takeda is dicey), Erron Black, and, heh, the favored cockroach that is D'vorah. I guess maybe Kollector too, but who cares about him?
Speaking about her death to sindel, they really made her idiotic as fuck. All the red cards were pretty much shown when Erron black said that sindel is evil in the damn dead pool. If an ex-merc is talking about someone while being really genuine about it, that’s clearly a red flag.
Also, considering she is a a shokan, there would be no way she would die to sindel considering they are able to take a beating. Ffs, kintaro took a Nuke and was still standing.
In my school vr game Millena is confirmed alive by a quest called pesturminate where she wants D'Vorah dead after almost getting killed and speaking of D'Vorah she was killed by Goalius though theres 2 methods 1 is eating her and the other was him erasing her atoms from existence with his PSI abilities
Good Lord! So.....many......PLOTHOLES!
Doing Gods’ work 🙌
Pretty cool video. Think I might steal it & translate it into my native language without giving you credit.
When it comes to deaths in XI a thing that someone brought up when I watched the scene where Raiden recalls how Lu Kang and him have fought in many instances when he said "Enough of your madness, If you must die, so be it!" like its been said to him before. We get a show of the two fighting in different areas in different costumes under different circumstances, someone implied that the different variations of outfits the characters wear is related to the different timelines that have passed or haven't yet. And remember, Kronika said to Raiden "Oh Raiden, Do you think this is the first time you've made that vow?" implying that while everyone doesn't recall the other timelines, Kronika was there for all of them
Well I hope at least MK1 will fix that problem of characters dying and then being alive for the next game
This is going to be good !
There’s a lot of “they die but they survive” moments here which I find very funny
4thsnake mavado didn't kill kabal but left him for dead until havik came
Like I said, it was heavily implied that he killed him before Deception said no.
This video is right on time! I was just wondering how in the hell all these characters keep coming back after dying so many times😅!?
Im Pretty curious. Are you planning to do every non canonical death into a vid as you said you might do or do you have plans on covering that yet?
“This character died except not really” is what I almost got from this
I believe that one way to see the whole gods dying/not dying dilemma Is as follows:
- Raiden, Fujin and the other elemental gods are minor deities and this seems to be something earned rather than being their natural state, as Liu Kang Is made a god In both his MK 9 ending and events of 11, alongside Raiden losing his status as god In Deception and 11. So minor gods can die.
- Elder gods like Shinnok, Cetrion and Kronika can't die, at least not In conventional ways, as Cetrion willingly gave her life to Kronika and Kronika was killed by what's essentially MK's version of debug mode.
- As for Raiden and Fujin surviving Shang SUCC, eh, he Is a douche and Is playing 5D chess.
It is stated in MK1 that Titans like Kronika CAN and WILL eventually die, unlike Elder Gods. And when a Titan die, they die for good as even the Time Keeper won’t be able to bring them back.
One thing that you got wrong.
While his Revenant died in Aftermath, Kung Lao didn’t actually die despite being thrown into the Sea of Blood.
Kronika explicitly stated that if Kung Lao died, his Revenant would cease to exist, which is of course confirmed when Kano kills past Kano and by proxy, future Kano.
And since we see Shang Tsung, Shao Khan, and Sindel fighting Revenant Kung Lao in Kronika’s Keep alongside Revenants Kitana and Jade, we can safely assume that he survived.
9:42 When you realise that Shang Shung indirectly killed Jerrod as well.
TFS Vegeta: Do I hear 4?!?
(And yes, I am aware that the "Who killed Jerrod?" meme is about Jerrod's death during the invasion to Edenia, but I still found it pretty funny to include Shang Shung into this. By MK12, Qian Chi, Kronika, Darkseid, that random orphan from Beverly Hills and every single Power Ranger will somehow be involved to Jerrod's death as well and I'm sure The4thSnake is gonna have a field day with that info.)
I don't understand how they keep coming back over and over again
I loved those old games.
(Even if I started off with an unplugged controller, cuz I was too young to understand that first game!) lol
Also their is one more debatable death from armageddon Shao Kahn , because someone made a video about things you might have missed in armageddon into and one of them was when Onaga grabbed Shao after Shao said no you can hear a chomp sound if you listen closely. Suggestions Onaga bit Shao face and left possible to much on it more
10:08 So does that mean Rains presence in MK11 isn’t canon too? Tbh that would suck since that would make both him and Mileena the only non-guest characters in the roster to not canonically be in MK11 at all, I always assumed that they were brought forwards in time with the time merger but refused to join Kronika and as such were sent to the void thing like Shang Tsung, Fujin and Nightwolf in MK11 Aftermath
makes you think how like half the new deaths are going to be retconned immediately in MK12.
“Shao Kahn explodes but this doesn’t seem to be kanonical” 😂😂 got me every time
I still have no idea what happened to Kano in Shaolin Monks. He is thrown to an elevator, he goes up, few seconds later he is completely destroyed.
Havick thing i dont think is dumb knowing that ir was stated people from the chaos realm dont die they just regenerate so i guess utdoesnt matter the damage it just makes the regeneration longer
MK11 has such a lazy, broad excuse for continuity errors that it makes fanfics theoretically canon. On that note, how do you feel about MK Chronicles being retconned for not fitting Kronika's vision Snake?
She's way less powerful in MKK because she's just an Elder God, so she can suck eggs.
I'm just glad Kuai Liang never died until Armageddon in the original timeline.
At 9:35 Wasn't Ermacs death also part of MKX ermac ending? Looks like they want it to be true without explaining on how it should have happened.
10:25 I kinda always had the impression that the other elder gods death being a betrayal by cetrion + kronika. can't say why but thats what i always thought
I thought that too, but they mention earlier that they'll at risk of being wiped, I think,
"Mortal kombat does not mean death, but life".
Well, to the winner, I guess.
On the "Shao Kahn lahn explodes but survives" thing, in Deception it is revealed in one of the reversed dialogues that Shao Kahn is the same species as Raiden and Fujin, meaning he can probably reform himself the same way other Gods can. As for why he doesn't come back after MK9 (not including Kronika literally pulling him from the past) it stands to reason the Elder Gods can straight up erase lesser gods
Well that Seems to Cover Up the Deaths in the Franchise,also I believe Sindel knocked Cyber Sub-Zero that he needed to Reboot the Program and Quan Chi Kill Him in the Comics and might be Alive since the Rules of the Chaosrealm don't Apply even in Death but it might be a Stretch.
I think Havok (if thats the him your referring to in the later half of your comment) was actually brought back during the time merger. This could explain Shang Tsung's line in Aftermath "chaos realm, Havok will keep him busy:
Mortal kombat becomes pointless when you know the characters are just gonna come back anyway
That always been their thing since the beginning
And now maybe theres the universe where everyone is dead that is canon
Take a shot everytime he say "This turns out to not be the case in *insert game here* "
Look for some reason I decide to pause the video I don't know why but it was on the frame when kenshi is on the Pyramid of Argus and I only just now realized it looks like they're using a low-quality possibly his Armageddon model which is was rather strange considering not only do they eventually make a new model for him for DLC the new design but he's not even in the position that he died in which makes it more noticeable
You forgot the biggest death of all: The death of the franchise
Bruh.
if MK1 (2023) has taught me anything, it's that there are no retcons...
only alternate timelines
Didnt Raiden kill Shujinko for releasing Onaga
@Damian Nichols He did.......in an alternate midway timeline.
@@kendonl.taylor5111 That also means Dark Raiden is non-canon in the original timeline if Shujinko did survived. Dark Raiden only exist if Shujinko's death by his hands is canon.
Not true at all. Raiden is corrupted by Onaga's essence. He just doesn't kill Shujinko in canon.
@@The4thSnake oh shit OK. Thank you for replying. I wish they would bring Shujinko back 😫
Doesn’t it say that the realms are all just the dreams of the one being? That implies to some extent he remains right?
The One Being's remains basically *are* the realms, which is why the "fight The One Being idea" has always been dumb. It's debatable whether it has anything close to an actual consciousness in this form though, much less to dream with like some Lovecraft elder divinity.
@@MusicoftheDamned makes sense I suppose
Shang Tsung being alive in Kronika's void seemed like a plothole since Shao Khan killed him absorbing his soul to empower Sindel, but he probably came back as a result of Kronika wiping Dark Raiden from history. Dark Raiden's death made any deaths that happened when Raiden restarted the timeline undone.
Yh but this is old Shang tsung that we mainly saw at the start. I think kronika revived him somehow his present self and due to his extreme aging, he managed to grow old again.
Plus Shang would be young if he was brought in by the time merger since everyone came back from the point where shao was about to kill lao
@@nabilahmed579 New Raiden said they were at the MK Tournament where Kung Lao had beaten Shang Tsung & Quan Chi. Kung Lao fought the young version of Shang Tsung not old & that young version was caught in Kronika's void.
@@Kentrc11 but Shang can’t have grown old that quick. Otherwise, he would have necessitated the soul stealing to major levels to the point where he was desperate
@@nabilahmed579 You're not getting it...
Which part of MK do you think Kung Lao fought both Shang Tsung & Quan Chi at the same time? Because there's only one part where Kung Lao did that.
@@Kentrc11 ok so what are you tryna get at then? Shang tsung pulled from a different point in time? If so, then it’s complete bs as to why kronika did not pull prime version of the villains from their point of time
And we back at Mortal Kombat 1
Tbh i couldn't get anything from this but good video
I deeply appreciate the open disdain to MK11's story in this video, very cathartic, thank you.
just wait till this man has to cover M1K
Hope you come back for the deaths in Mortal Kombat 1