Hi Everyone, We hope you enjoyed our video! Which small 5th Wheel UNDER 30' did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
The benefits to these shorter lighter 5W’s is three fold; 1. Parks, National Parks, and mountain roads start cutting off trailers at 26’, 5W’s at 30’ meaning that you can get in and go more places. 2. You can get by with a 3/4 ton truck (less money). 3. MORE STORAGE! 😊
Rockwood rocked it and wins, in my book, by a mile. As for the TV wall being a medium wood tone, I agree it’s a nice visual room definition between kitchen/dining and living area. Kind of like a brick fireplace the medium wood tones circumscribe that area. As for the adjacent area where the fireplace resides, using the same medium wood tones from the fireplace area might cause an initial impression of a dark corner. It happens so easily in smaller units.
Enjoyed seeing these shorter units, Mike and Susan; thanks for bringing them to our attention. QUESTION: Does the FR unit have the "typical" ShowerMizer (?) system? Love that idea/feature. Y'all Be Safe!
So glad you enjoyed these smaller 5th wheels. We love the size! The FR Rockwood does have the ShowerMiser water system! Thank you so much for your support!
Hi Mike and Susan! I really like the third one. Fur size and storage.. and the floor plan! And the seat in the shower. Love the theater seats. Thank you Mike and Susan. Hope you enjoy your holiday! Presidents’ Day!
Hi Sherri! So glad you like the FR Rockwood. I also loved the ceiling fan and King bed option. We spend President's Day washing and detailing our rig but that was ok but she looks beautiful now 🤣. Have a great week!
I am very happy to see your piece on the Rockwood 281rk in same video as the Jayco eagle my decision to purchase the Rockwood came down to the dealer and restroom access and shower. Rockwood did score a hit on fridge access but decided I could use a cooler to compensate.
I'm so glad our video was able to help you make your decision. That's awesome! We wish you many happy adventures. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
Forest River was our favorite but it failed our road mode fridge accessibility requirement unfortunately. Laughed at your comment regarding "things getting out of hand in the bathroom" but that's a very handy feature having a remote for the great Max Air fan! Great job on the video, Mike and Susan! Very consistent and informative, with great narration, awesome camera work, and nice video editing. Thanks for all you do for the RV community!
Thank you so much for the kind words! We are always so happy to know we are able to help others in the RV community! We read blog articles and watched videos before we started and it feels great to give back now! We truly appreciate your support! I kinda laughed out loud in my head when he said that too! 🤦♀️ But he brings up a good point!
It's a toss-up between the Jayco and the Forest River. I love the hidden pantry in the Jayco. I'd rather have more storage in the kitchen than the bedroom. But the shower in the Forest River is magnificent!
Loved both for those reasons too! Also loved the ceiling fan and King bed option of the Rockwood. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
We've had our eye on the Rockwood/Flagstaff 281RK for a while. As far as I can tell, one of the few under 30ft with a king bed option. We love the storage and bathroom size. Perfect couple's camper! Thanks for the tour!
We recently bought the Rockwood 281rk and love it!! We did upgrade to a king size bed, and the bedroom still seems so big. The mirrors in bedroom, help to give the illusion of a bigger space. We are true couple campers, so the idea of the counter seating with the bar stools was a win for us vs the dinette👍🏼. We also opted for the theater seating which is great! We had upgraded from the GeoPro so we are loving all the extra room!! Love your videos! Thanks for this walk through 👍🏼❤
Thank you so much for sharing this information. This could be helpful to another viewer/reader! We absolutely fell in love with this floor plan! Great upgrade from your GeoPro. Enjoy and safe travels. We appreciate your support! 💛💚
Yes we use DVD's as we normally do NOT have cell service or internet where we prefer to camp! When you can't access fridge in travel mode, that's a big NO!
We used to use DVDs too! We laugh at how bad were were at finding good internet back then. It is way easier though. And it you camp in the mountains you really need StarLink and no trees in your way. Thanks for watching! Mike
Thanks Susan and Mike, well done, as always. Me being me, I personally would not buy a new Thor product (the first two). The third, being a Berkshire Hathaway (Forest River) seems okay, but a bit over priced for what it is. The used market for fifth wheels is growing, just remember to have an inspection done and do your due diligence. The separation of the living room and kitchen is always a good idea to keep the TV away from the kitchen. Who wants to watch TV with someone in front of them doing kitchen activities? Stay safe out there.
Agree to all. Owning a Thor I have to agree unfortunately, but I blame Lippert too! I imagine the used market for all RVs has increased based on the huge increase in popularity over the past few years and those they have changed their minds about RVing. We always recommend getting a 3rd party inspection even when buying new! No RV is built perfect. Thank you as always for your support Tuvia4082!
The Jayco Eagle 26REC is sooo good, I love it! Everything is very well thought out, lots of little gimmicks and solutions that make life easier every day, the slide-out is on the right side so that you can get into the bedroom even when retracted... I would add a folding wooden shelf on the left-hand side next to the sink so that you could have a little more countertop and work surface, but apart from that I really cannot complain. In short: the space is used optimally and the thing is a dream. The Forest River Rockwood R281RK is also very nice, especially the height in the shower, but it cannot beat the Jayco.
I just loved the Jayco too. A lot of really great little details make it special. Also loved the bed was not in a slide out so that nice for boondocking at Walmart or Cracker Barrel. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Those are awesome ! I need that Forest River shower in my home ! One thing I noticed on all, you don't have a 12" step up, just walk right in. My vote would have to go to Jayco ! Love that "hidden pantry" behind the TV ! Thanks y'all !! Safe travels !!
That is correct about the lack of step up in 5th wheel showers. They are able to install all necessary plumbing under the shower (without having to raise the shower) to keep it a floor level. I also loved the Jayco and that hidden pantry!!! Thank you Darryl! We always appreciate your support!
The Jayco would be a perfect fulltimer for a single person like me, or a couple! I would bring aboard my mini clothes washer and drying rack ( store it in the hidden pantry ) . Moving twice a year from southern state to canada would be a breeze since everyting is accessible with the slide IN! thanks!
So glad you loved the Jayco. That hidden pantry was amazing!!! We really love that manufacturers are making more 30' 5th wheels! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Could you please let us know if the bathroom, kitchen/fridge and bedroom are accessible when the slides are in. If you're boondocking at Cracker barrel or a truck stop, or even stopping to stretch your legs and use the facilities and eat lunch, if you can't use it with the slides in that's a huge deal breaker for me. Please? It's hard to tell even looking at the floor plans sometimes. Thank you for all the work you do for us. Appreciate it greatly!
We are trying to get better at adding that information. Hopefully you'll see more of that moving forward. In this video the only RV with accessible kitchen and bath is the Jayco Eagle. You can access the bathroom in the FR Rockwood (kitchen is a bit tight) and you can access the kitchen and fridge of the Keystone Cougar (not the bathroom). Hope this is helpful and thank you for the suggestion. We appreciate your support!
According to Ford, the newer models can tow up to 14,000 lbs. These 5th wheels have a GVWR of just under 10,000 lbs so it's sounds doable but it would be best to check the owner's manual or the specs to your specific vehicle. And we always say never tow more than 80% of your vehicles tow capacity to be safe. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
I’m a fan of that Jayco. I really like that “hidden” pantry and the separated eating and living areas. Plus the bedroom looks very nice, especially that residential queen bed. The Rockwood is nice but the recliners look very cramped in that small slideout area.
The Jayco Eagle is a great floor plan. I absolutely love the pantry and entertainment area! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
I'm sure there's a reason, but why don't they make 5th Wheels with greater cargo capacities as a standard? It's extremely easy to go over these capacities. For example, I have a 40' Sunnybrook Westpoint. Dry weight is 16.5k, and max weight is 18k.... It also has 240gl of water carrying capacity (all tanks combined), and would put the rig well above it's limits. That doesn't include all other cargo such as clothing, food, entertainment, etc. Even if you travel without water, you're still very limited to what you can carry. We have the technology to make frames and axels that hold more weight, such as toy/car haulers. Why don't they apply the same idea?
To add context, since I bought my 40' rig, I have had a lot of trouble finding resorts with open availability for big rigs. The spots exist, but are usually booked full. If I could do it again, I would buy a 5th wheel under 35', possibly under 30', to get that little luxury of fitting in anywhere you want to go. I guess manufacturers assume you're planning to pull these little 5'ers with a 1/4 ton truck or something, because they have the carrying capacity to hold basically nothing but essentials. I want the ability to carry anything I want without having to keep an inventory of everything in the rig. Is that too much to ask? With these new 3/4 and 1ton pickups, you have the power. Just make it happen.
We have found many RVs with less than adequate Cargo Carry Capacity or CCC. When I call the manufacturers they say things like: 1. Most people just camp on the weekends at camp ground and don't travel with full tanks of water or waste water 2. They are over engineered so they are ok I think this is all a load of crap. We have seen a number of 5th wheels with frame flex and this is most likely the reason why. Why don't the manufacturers build on a beefier frame? One reason and one reason only - to save money. They want to build the cheapest unit possible to increase profit margins. Welcome to the wonderful world of RV manufacturing with no oversight or standards. Thanks for your comment - hopefully other will read it and learn from it. Mike
Are you referring to when the slides are in? The answer would be yes but you can not access the bedroom or bathroom. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Unfortunately no. Might have to go a bit longer in the RV to get W/D hookups. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
@@RVBlogger well. Having to get a 1 ton or bigger is not in my plan....I have seen people with 1500s and half ton have many issues...I'm looking for more of a tow behind my Honda Odyssey...I did like your video on 20' with bunks...for my daughter and granddaughter....you do a great job at showing floor plans. EzAirazona shows great repairs and add ons...and lizAmazing ..shows the good and bad people have..thank you very much....
@@RVBlogger yes and contacts owners of company's..Thor this week ..and they will go pick up the RV ..and fix all the issues... customer service was tearable....
I thought the same thing and was a bit confused because they didn't show an optional floor plan. Looking through the options on their website I see you can replace the table and chairs with a dinette and theater seating with a sleeper sofa. Thank you Luvpig!
Welcome to the channel! Here is the link to see our video about 5th wheels for 1/2 ton pickup trucks. czcams.com/video/aG_3qkzTphQ/video.htmlsi=agcd3Gz9FBk73gP2 Thanks for watching! Mike
What happened to the small fifth wheel from the late 80’s and 90’s? Every where I want to go is a 4 days tow to the west and a 32’ Cougar is great if your going for the winter but not great for a 2 week trip.
The size of RVs have gotten bigger and bigger over the years. Kind of like the housing industry. People want bigger...bathrooms, bedrooms and appliances! I think people aren't willing to sacrifice these days. Plus there are more remote workers or full-time RVers on the road these days. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
It's going to be a while, maybe even a decade, before I can get a new trailer/truck and go to Alaska. Here's my dilemma: parts of the Alaska highway, and a whole lot of other roads up there, the one running north from Banff, top of the world highway, etc, are insanely rough. When I do this, I don't want to be limited to decent roads. Can a 5th wheel handle it, or do I need a non-5th wheel so the frost heaves don't bend the front of the trailer and break the rear window of the truck?
That is a very great point! We have friends that are traveling to Alaska this summer in a small Class C for those reasons (better drivability). We have thought about going but renting a truck camper for our adventure. I do know that Happily Ever Hanks took their 5th wheel www.youtube.com/@HappilyEverHanks/videos and Less Junk More Journey took their Airstream www.youtube.com/@LessJunkMoreJourney. Might get some good advice from them. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
The first one looks like the slide would cover the doorway to the main room and bathroom. Is that correct? Do you have to have the slide out to use that area?
Thanks for the suggestion Ron. We have considered offering solar details and maybe we will start including that info in the near future. Hope you have a great Memorial Day Weekend! Mike
That's a great must have! We love our fireplace. Great ambience and supplemental heat. We hardly ever use our propane furnace. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Completely agree! You can not get to the bathroom or slide out. This could be a dealbreaker for boondocking at a Cracker Barrel or just travel day stops. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Have I ever asked you what camper could a Jeep gladiator or Ford bronco could tell I want a list of kitchen two beds and a shower I had to trade in my Ford F-250 because I couldn't fix so I got a jeep gladiator then my mom broke so we had to get her a new she wanted a Ford bronco
The Jeep Gladiator and the Bronco can tow up to 4,500lbs. But it would be best to check your manual about your particular model vehicle and engine. We recommend only towing 80% of your vehicle's tow capacity to stay safe. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
We keep waiting for the manufacturers to come out with some better color schemes but not much to show so far! Maybe we will see some new designs in the 2025 modes at the Hershey RV Show. Stay Tuned!
Hey guys, hope you're well. I gotta remark as its been on my mind for quite a few clips. I've been a viewer for a long time now and noticed how monotonous things get after following every post for this long. I'm sorry, but trying to be constructively critical, please dont be offended After awhile it turns into the storage/matress tape/shower show instead of reviewing all the other particulars involved in RVs. Especially motorhomes, which the truck features are largely ignored. I just wish I couldn't predict nearly every move you make mike, and everything you say in every video. Things just get old and I start thinking why tour it and just record a quick walk thru and be done rather then every word predictable and every action the same clip to clip. After awhile cabinet storage, the bed being within a few inches and the shower curtain/oven pizza cookie thing just gets tired I'll still be a fan, just hoping things can switch up sometimes ! Take care guys
Understandable. We appreciate your honesty. Keeping our videos brief about floor plans only tends to be repetitive. We have thought about including more details about each RV but the videos would be way too long. We would have to change the format of our videos to only one RV. But we will keep trying to improve and make our videos watch worthy. Thanks again for your honesty. Appreciate your support!
There are quite a few different trailers with the same floor plan. And these trailers are all built by the same people with the same components. The difference is that Alliance has excellent customer service. Thanks for watching!
MSRP on Lance has always been a bit higher than many other manufacturers but they have a great reputation for quality. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Hi Everyone,
We hope you enjoyed our video! Which small 5th Wheel UNDER 30' did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
The benefits to these shorter lighter 5W’s is three fold; 1. Parks, National Parks, and mountain roads start cutting off trailers at 26’, 5W’s at 30’ meaning that you can get in and go more places. 2. You can get by with a 3/4 ton truck (less money). 3. MORE STORAGE! 😊
The third 5W is my favorite. That’d work! The second is also sweet!
Completely agree! If we "downsized" from our motorhome we would consider a 5th wheel this size! Thanks Erin!
I loved the FR Rockwood R281RK! With the King bed option, of course! 🤣
Rockwood rocked it and wins, in my book, by a mile.
As for the TV wall being a medium wood tone, I agree it’s a nice visual room definition between kitchen/dining and living area. Kind of like a brick fireplace the medium wood tones circumscribe that area. As for the adjacent area where the fireplace resides, using the same medium wood tones from the fireplace area might cause an initial impression of a dark corner. It happens so easily in smaller units.
I'm going with Jayco! The eye-level TV hiding a huge pantry sold me on it! Thank you for your review! 😊
You're welcome Britt! I also loved the Jayco and that hidden storage. We appreciate your support!
Enjoyed seeing these shorter units, Mike and Susan; thanks for bringing them to our attention. QUESTION: Does the FR unit have the "typical" ShowerMizer (?) system? Love that idea/feature.
Y'all Be Safe!
So glad you enjoyed these smaller 5th wheels. We love the size! The FR Rockwood does have the ShowerMiser water system! Thank you so much for your support!
We liked the Couger. I would like to see no slide models under 30ft. Thanks Susan and Mike
The Keystone Cougar 2100RK is a great floor plan! Thanks so much for your continued support!
Hi Mike and Susan!
I really like the third one. Fur size and storage.. and the floor plan! And the seat in the shower. Love the theater seats. Thank you Mike and Susan. Hope you enjoy your holiday! Presidents’ Day!
Hi Sherri! So glad you like the FR Rockwood. I also loved the ceiling fan and King bed option. We spend President's Day washing and detailing our rig but that was ok but she looks beautiful now 🤣. Have a great week!
The Jayco is amazing and is a close second. Rockwood rocks it, however, and is my first choice! Great video! Thank you both.
Great choice and thanks for the kind words!
Hope you have a great day!
Mike
I am very happy to see your piece on the Rockwood 281rk in same video as the Jayco eagle my decision to purchase the Rockwood came down to the dealer and restroom access and shower. Rockwood did score a hit on fridge access but decided I could use a cooler to compensate.
I'm so glad our video was able to help you make your decision. That's awesome! We wish you many happy adventures. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
Forest River was our favorite but it failed our road mode fridge accessibility requirement unfortunately. Laughed at your comment regarding "things getting out of hand in the bathroom" but that's a very handy feature having a remote for the great Max Air fan! Great job on the video, Mike and Susan! Very consistent and informative, with great narration, awesome camera work, and nice video editing. Thanks for all you do for the RV community!
Thank you so much for the kind words! We are always so happy to know we are able to help others in the RV community! We read blog articles and watched videos before we started and it feels great to give back now! We truly appreciate your support!
I kinda laughed out loud in my head when he said that too! 🤦♀️ But he brings up a good point!
It's a toss-up between the Jayco and the Forest River. I love the hidden pantry in the Jayco. I'd rather have more storage in the kitchen than the bedroom. But the shower in the Forest River is magnificent!
Loved both for those reasons too! Also loved the ceiling fan and King bed option of the Rockwood. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
The Rockwood! All the bedroom storage!
Loved the FR Rockwood. And I would choose the King bed option! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
We've had our eye on the Rockwood/Flagstaff 281RK for a while. As far as I can tell, one of the few under 30ft with a king bed option. We love the storage and bathroom size. Perfect couple's camper! Thanks for the tour!
Glad we could help!
Best of luck with your new camper!
Mike
Skinny cabinets are great for bug spray, lanterns, etc! 😉
Yes they are! Great Point!
We recently bought the Rockwood 281rk and love it!! We did upgrade to a king size bed, and the bedroom still seems so big. The mirrors in bedroom, help to give the illusion of a bigger space. We are true couple campers, so the idea of the counter seating with the bar stools was a win for us vs the dinette👍🏼. We also opted for the theater seating which is great! We had upgraded from the GeoPro so we are loving all the extra room!! Love your videos! Thanks for this walk through 👍🏼❤
Thank you so much for sharing this information. This could be helpful to another viewer/reader! We absolutely fell in love with this floor plan! Great upgrade from your GeoPro. Enjoy and safe travels. We appreciate your support! 💛💚
Yes we use DVD's as we normally do NOT have cell service or internet where we prefer to camp! When you can't access fridge in travel mode, that's a big NO!
We used to use DVDs too! We laugh at how bad were were at finding good internet back then. It is way easier though. And it you camp in the mountains you really need StarLink and no trees in your way.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Thanks Susan and Mike, well done, as always. Me being me, I personally would not buy a new Thor product (the first two). The third, being a Berkshire Hathaway (Forest River) seems okay, but a bit over priced for what it is. The used market for fifth wheels is growing, just remember to have an inspection done and do your due diligence. The separation of the living room and kitchen is always a good idea to keep the TV away from the kitchen. Who wants to watch TV with someone in front of them doing kitchen activities? Stay safe out there.
Agree to all. Owning a Thor I have to agree unfortunately, but I blame Lippert too! I imagine the used market for all RVs has increased based on the huge increase in popularity over the past few years and those they have changed their minds about RVing. We always recommend getting a 3rd party inspection even when buying new! No RV is built perfect. Thank you as always for your support Tuvia4082!
Perfect!! Just wish it had more CCC.
More CCC is always a good thing!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
The Jayco Eagle 26REC is sooo good, I love it!
Everything is very well thought out, lots of little gimmicks and solutions that make life easier every day, the slide-out is on the right side so that you can get into the bedroom even when retracted... I would add a folding wooden shelf on the left-hand side next to the sink so that you could have a little more countertop and work surface, but apart from that I really cannot complain.
In short: the space is used optimally and the thing is a dream.
The Forest River Rockwood R281RK is also very nice, especially the height in the shower, but it cannot beat the Jayco.
I just loved the Jayco too. A lot of really great little details make it special. Also loved the bed was not in a slide out so that nice for boondocking at Walmart or Cracker Barrel. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Those are awesome ! I need that Forest River shower in my home ! One thing I noticed on all, you don't have a 12" step up, just walk right in. My vote would have to go to Jayco ! Love that "hidden pantry" behind the TV ! Thanks y'all !! Safe travels !!
That is correct about the lack of step up in 5th wheel showers. They are able to install all necessary plumbing under the shower (without having to raise the shower) to keep it a floor level. I also loved the Jayco and that hidden pantry!!! Thank you Darryl! We always appreciate your support!
The Jayco would be a perfect fulltimer for a single person like me, or a couple! I would bring aboard my mini clothes washer and drying rack ( store it in the hidden pantry ) . Moving twice a year from southern state to canada would be a breeze since everyting is accessible with the slide IN! thanks!
So glad you loved the Jayco. That hidden pantry was amazing!!! We really love that manufacturers are making more 30' 5th wheels! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Could you please let us know if the bathroom, kitchen/fridge and bedroom are accessible when the slides are in. If you're boondocking at Cracker barrel or a truck stop, or even stopping to stretch your legs and use the facilities and eat lunch, if you can't use it with the slides in that's a huge deal breaker for me. Please? It's hard to tell even looking at the floor plans sometimes. Thank you for all the work you do for us. Appreciate it greatly!
We are trying to get better at adding that information. Hopefully you'll see more of that moving forward. In this video the only RV with accessible kitchen and bath is the Jayco Eagle. You can access the bathroom in the FR Rockwood (kitchen is a bit tight) and you can access the kitchen and fridge of the Keystone Cougar (not the bathroom). Hope this is helpful and thank you for the suggestion. We appreciate your support!
Thank you so much 💓 💗 💛 😊
It's between the Jayco and Reflection for me .
Both are pretty great floor plans! Love these smaller 5th wheels! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
I think the Rockwood is the best one and next would be the Jayco. Can an F150 pull these or is that pushing it. Great video .
According to Ford, the newer models can tow up to 14,000 lbs. These 5th wheels have a GVWR of just under 10,000 lbs so it's sounds doable but it would be best to check the owner's manual or the specs to your specific vehicle. And we always say never tow more than 80% of your vehicles tow capacity to be safe. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
I’m a fan of that Jayco. I really like that “hidden” pantry and the separated eating and living areas. Plus the bedroom looks very nice, especially that residential queen bed. The Rockwood is nice but the recliners look very cramped in that small slideout area.
The Jayco Eagle is a great floor plan. I absolutely love the pantry and entertainment area! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Love the Jayco Eagle. Very bright and airy inside, although I know that's not everyone's taste LOL🐱
I loved the Jayco Eagle. I prefer bright and airy too! It was very spacious with that great walk-in pantry!
I'm sure there's a reason, but why don't they make 5th Wheels with greater cargo capacities as a standard? It's extremely easy to go over these capacities. For example, I have a 40' Sunnybrook Westpoint. Dry weight is 16.5k, and max weight is 18k.... It also has 240gl of water carrying capacity (all tanks combined), and would put the rig well above it's limits. That doesn't include all other cargo such as clothing, food, entertainment, etc. Even if you travel without water, you're still very limited to what you can carry. We have the technology to make frames and axels that hold more weight, such as toy/car haulers. Why don't they apply the same idea?
To add context, since I bought my 40' rig, I have had a lot of trouble finding resorts with open availability for big rigs. The spots exist, but are usually booked full. If I could do it again, I would buy a 5th wheel under 35', possibly under 30', to get that little luxury of fitting in anywhere you want to go. I guess manufacturers assume you're planning to pull these little 5'ers with a 1/4 ton truck or something, because they have the carrying capacity to hold basically nothing but essentials. I want the ability to carry anything I want without having to keep an inventory of everything in the rig. Is that too much to ask? With these new 3/4 and 1ton pickups, you have the power. Just make it happen.
We have found many RVs with less than adequate Cargo Carry Capacity or CCC. When I call the manufacturers they say things like:
1. Most people just camp on the weekends at camp ground and don't travel with full tanks of water or waste water
2. They are over engineered so they are ok
I think this is all a load of crap. We have seen a number of 5th wheels with frame flex and this is most likely the reason why.
Why don't the manufacturers build on a beefier frame? One reason and one reason only - to save money. They want to build the cheapest unit possible to increase profit margins.
Welcome to the wonderful world of RV manufacturing with no oversight or standards.
Thanks for your comment - hopefully other will read it and learn from it.
Mike
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In the Cougar can you reach the sitting area/kitchen?
Are you referring to when the slides are in? The answer would be yes but you can not access the bedroom or bathroom. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Does the 3rd rv you showed have w/d hookups?
Unfortunately no. Might have to go a bit longer in the RV to get W/D hookups. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Nice floor plans but I don't think I'll ever get a 5th wheel
I too am thinking smaller is better. But… they offer additional space which if you spend more time traveling, that’s a BIG plus! 😊
Why do you think you would never buy a 5th Wheel? Thanks Leonard, for watching our video and commenting!
@@RVBlogger well. Having to get a 1 ton or bigger is not in my plan....I have seen people with 1500s and half ton have many issues...I'm looking for more of a tow behind my Honda Odyssey...I did like your video on 20' with bunks...for my daughter and granddaughter....you do a great job at showing floor plans. EzAirazona shows great repairs and add ons...and lizAmazing ..shows the good and bad people have..thank you very much....
@@leonardh8269 thank you! We do appreciate your support. Does Liz interview RV owners with issues?
@@RVBlogger yes and contacts owners of company's..Thor this week ..and they will go pick up the RV ..and fix all the issues... customer service was tearable....
In the Jayco 26REC where on earth can you sleep six people? ❤❤❤
I think if you get the option with trifold couch and bench seat dining area.
@kimc555 that makes sense. Cheers
I thought the same thing and was a bit confused because they didn't show an optional floor plan. Looking through the options on their website I see you can replace the table and chairs with a dinette and theater seating with a sleeper sofa. Thank you Luvpig!
@kimc555 you are correct. They don't provide a floor plan image but you can modify dinette and seating. Thank you!
new to your channel…any videos of 1/2 ton p/u fifth wheels??
Welcome to the channel! Here is the link to see our video about 5th wheels for 1/2 ton pickup trucks. czcams.com/video/aG_3qkzTphQ/video.htmlsi=agcd3Gz9FBk73gP2
Thanks for watching!
Mike
What happened to the small fifth wheel from the late 80’s and 90’s? Every where I want to go is a 4 days tow to the west and a 32’ Cougar is great if your going for the winter but not great for a 2 week trip.
The size of RVs have gotten bigger and bigger over the years. Kind of like the housing industry. People want bigger...bathrooms, bedrooms and appliances! I think people aren't willing to sacrifice these days. Plus there are more remote workers or full-time RVers on the road these days. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
It's going to be a while, maybe even a decade, before I can get a new trailer/truck and go to Alaska. Here's my dilemma: parts of the Alaska highway, and a whole lot of other roads up there, the one running north from Banff, top of the world highway, etc, are insanely rough. When I do this, I don't want to be limited to decent roads. Can a 5th wheel handle it, or do I need a non-5th wheel so the frost heaves don't bend the front of the trailer and break the rear window of the truck?
That is a very great point! We have friends that are traveling to Alaska this summer in a small Class C for those reasons (better drivability). We have thought about going but renting a truck camper for our adventure. I do know that Happily Ever Hanks took their 5th wheel www.youtube.com/@HappilyEverHanks/videos and Less Junk More Journey took their Airstream www.youtube.com/@LessJunkMoreJourney. Might get some good advice from them. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support.
The first one looks like the slide would cover the doorway to the main room and bathroom. Is that correct? Do you have to have the slide out to use that area?
Yes and yes. Big disappointment there! You would not be able to access bathroom or bedroom with slide in. Thanks blessedveteran!
how about talking about any solar system power options…😇
Thanks for the suggestion Ron. We have considered offering solar details and maybe we will start including that info in the near future.
Hope you have a great Memorial Day Weekend!
Mike
Must have a fireplace
That's a great must have! We love our fireplace. Great ambience and supplemental heat. We hardly ever use our propane furnace. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Nice campers. They’re roomy
We really enjoy 5th wheels under 30'. The size isn't too intimidating and yet the rigs are pretty spacious. Thanks Kim!!!
No washer /dryer
Uh...I'm not sure what you are asking or saying. Can you clarify please?
Why would someone not design the first one , with the stair on the other side, clear of the slide?
Completely agree! You can not get to the bathroom or slide out. This could be a dealbreaker for boondocking at a Cracker Barrel or just travel day stops. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Have I ever asked you what camper could a Jeep gladiator or Ford bronco could tell I want a list of kitchen two beds and a shower I had to trade in my Ford F-250 because I couldn't fix so I got a jeep gladiator then my mom broke so we had to get her a new she wanted a Ford bronco
The Jeep Gladiator and the Bronco can tow up to 4,500lbs. But it would be best to check your manual about your particular model vehicle and engine. We recommend only towing 80% of your vehicle's tow capacity to stay safe. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!
Cougar really needs to work on their design aesthetic. The color pallets are very dated and so much grays!
We keep waiting for the manufacturers to come out with some better color schemes but not much to show so far! Maybe we will see some new designs in the 2025 modes at the Hershey RV Show. Stay Tuned!
Hey guys, hope you're well.
I gotta remark as its been on my mind for quite a few clips. I've been a viewer for a long time now and noticed how monotonous things get after following every post for this long.
I'm sorry, but trying to be constructively critical, please dont be offended
After awhile it turns into the storage/matress tape/shower show instead of reviewing all the other particulars involved in RVs. Especially motorhomes, which the truck features are largely ignored.
I just wish I couldn't predict nearly every move you make mike, and everything you say in every video. Things just get old and I start thinking why tour it and just record a quick walk thru and be done rather then every word predictable and every action the same clip to clip.
After awhile cabinet storage, the bed being within a few inches and the shower curtain/oven pizza cookie thing just gets tired
I'll still be a fan, just hoping things can switch up sometimes !
Take care guys
Understandable. We appreciate your honesty. Keeping our videos brief about floor plans only tends to be repetitive. We have thought about including more details about each RV but the videos would be way too long. We would have to change the format of our videos to only one RV. But we will keep trying to improve and make our videos watch worthy. Thanks again for your honesty. Appreciate your support!
This is a copycat of the paradigm avenue 5th wheel. Which is okay, but keystone doesn’t have the quality of the paradigm avenue!
There are quite a few different trailers with the same floor plan. And these trailers are all built by the same people with the same components. The difference is that Alliance has excellent customer service.
Thanks for watching!
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I like the last one that cost 75,000
I also believe is way overpriced
MSRP on Lance has always been a bit higher than many other manufacturers but they have a great reputation for quality. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting! We appreciate your support!