It's like the rich people from the other side of town heard your parents were asses so they came and set fire to your house, then walked away patting each other on the back and left you standing on the front lawn with your sister.
I was in Johannesburg last year: no street lights, no traffic lights, intermittent electricity, caged into the accommodation. I couldn't wait to get home. South Africa is a failed state.
South Africa wasn’t wealthy only the white minority were rich and lived in big cities meanwhile the black majority still lived in poverty, this system was never sustainable and was doomed to collapse
@@thatoneguy6687 that explains why they can't fix the roads, the waterlines or the power lines. Because rich Whites absconded to the magical kingdom of cope with all their money. Strangely, all of the poor oppressed Blacks can't ever seem to generate wealth on their own, even with an entire government behind them.
As a South African it sucks how bad our country has gotten but to most of us in the younger generation it's all we've known. That's why it was so surreal the first time i went to Europe and discovered working infrastructure and public transport 😂
Sorry tor your loss, your countrymen were too idealistic, you should have moved the population in the West of the country to make a majority white country.
The reality is, it's also a truth that can't be argued against by any metric anyone , no matter how motivated , can produce.It's absolute FACT that S.A. is worse off now, in every conceivable way than it was under Apartheid. Now I'm not saying Apartheid was good, or even acceptable , but what i AM saying is the " solution" to it has in every way,been WORSE than it was itself.
The problem is that Migration was going on so fast, maybe uf you teach 3 Generations of Africans modetn Technology thery will lernen adapt. But dont put 10 Millionen primitive people to modern Country
Go further back. Life was relatively easy for the Bantu tribes pre-colonisation. Abundant resources, space and a hot climate. Tribal conflict was the major threat and even that isn't unique to Southern Africa, us Europeans found ways to slaughter one another. It was the introduction of European industry, agriculture and commerce that complicated life for the African.
_The ANC is corrupt._ They're an African government. What did you expect? Politicians are corrupt all over the world with those in some parts of the world, like South America and Africa, more corrupt.
I'm a South African I know it only gets worse as of now we havent had electricity for the past 18 hrs and I'm afraid one day the electricity will never come back
Remember Dr Ian McRae, CEO of Eskom, when he was in charge, South Africa could have supplied the whole of Southern Africa with electricity, Thabo Mbeki replaced him with a political appointees, hence the mess today
Dude have you looked at countries where black's have ruled themselves? Ethiopia: Shit. Zimbabwe: Took all the land from their most productive members of society (white people) and proceeded to run themselves into the ground. Haiti: Killed all the white people, ran themselves into the ground, tried to invade their neighbor to boost themselves up. Neighbors kicked them out and has remained shit ever since. Sure you may have some like Bostwana that do well. But that's not the rule. The ANC is not being ousted, they are there to stay and they will eventually go after the white population that is in South Africa.
@alexpotts6520 Of course, I just decisively used the term because the corrupt elements in that country still tout that notion while not exercising actual diversity of thought coupled with competency in governance. Also, I am willing to state that supremacist movements on any side in SA have been so detrimental as of late.
@@rainyvideos3684ethiopia is growing economically well, even despite having had a major conflict, they host the headquarters of the african union and they're a stable compared to its neighbours; haiti's failure had its origins after independence and not because they killed white people, in fact they spared polish people because they helped them with the independence, but rather because france demanded haiti to pay a huge sum of money for the slave owners or risk invasion and that sum of money wasn't paid off fully until 1946, as well as that haiti was sanctioned and isolated, because western powers didn't like the idea of a black republic being the first country to abolish slavery; haiti has also been occupied by the US in the early 20th century which also affected their economy and political situation, because after that, they've gotten coups, assassinations and other disasters, it didn't help that they also haven't recovered from the 2010 earthquake; there are other succesful sub saharan countries like botswana, namibia, ghana, kenya, rwanda, tanzania, gabon; which are more stable compared to south afrca
I lived in South Africa on the 1970's. The biggest fear of the black people of South Africa after aparthied ended, was what their own people where about to do to this country. They had a good reason to be fearsome of their own! The AMC have destroyed the economy of South Africa.
"The biggest fear of the black people of South Africa after apartheid ended, was what their own people were about to do to this country". What nonsense! If that were the case, why did they vote for the ANC in droves - repeatedly.....?
@danguee1 are you 100% sure they were voted by the people? Who can assure you they didn't draw the numbers, add fake votes, made the dead vote and so on? Argentina is the best example of how easily you can commit electoral fraud. When you don't watch the election from beginning to end, criminals can get into power. When you pay attention, they can't win.
Everyone in the comments who are laughing at South Africa should be aware that South Africa is being used as the template for the future of the entire Western world. It has already begun in the major cities of America and Western Europe...
And not only in the cities. But I wonder why noone is doing anything against it in this "Western world". Everyone seems to me to be hiding from everyone else. Not even here on the internet do we dare to write what exactly we believe. CZcams's censorship has also contributed to this unfortunately I must say.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Really? At least online, even on yt I see growing number of people while who while careful with wording, were able to name the problem rather bluntly. My most shocking moment when last month normally left leaning TLDR news while discussing permanent misfortunes of one particular Caribbean island, had effectively comment section filled with comments related to estimates of local average IQ. I'd say that we're slowly seeing the shift.
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Well, I have seen such comment sections since 2016 (when I myself was not aware of the thing(s) I am aware now - which I will not name here because my comment will be removed again, like my very previous comment here was). But I can tell you that my/this account has been shadow banned by CZcams since March 2022, when I used the opposite word than the word "beautiful" quite a few times, without being insulting and/or harmful to anyone at any point, and since then if my comments do not receive at least one like within 10s, they are removed. Which is why I must immediately like all my comments. Needless to say about other platforms, such as Twitter, which froze my account twice in Aug-Oct 2020, Facebook which blocked me from commenting for 10 days, for 8 times, and always for the above reason. So I use CZcams only because it is the least intolerant platform basically, where I can post comments like these, and communicate with others somehow. I also abandoned Bitchute because I found 80-90% of the content there just wrong, mistaken, and misleading, although I partially understand why this is like that, and I myself have very often in the past believed in things that were proven to be wrong. I am greek by the way.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 I have seen even wilder comment section but that was the first time where under a mainstream, English language channel it was effectively looking like the truth completely derailed the narrative. Oddly, I was quite careful with wording (or maybe I come from a country that they don't care as under the same topic I was allowed to talk about laptop of prodigal son of one of US president, while Americans were not) but I was never banned here. It's a bit tricky with alt tech as one hand they have even more low quality content and poor algorithm, while on the other ex Jolly Heretic place there stuff that may be too contentious for yt. Or one could finf there well researched Am Ren or Alt Hype. Are you familiar with those?
south Africa is too different because the country always had a lot of black people and i noticed the people in south Africa are different than in other parts of Africa. i wont get in detail about that
Very simplistic reasoning. What precisely in South Africa does it lead to? Is there any indication that your Western liberal societies (which together with the Soviet and Islamic world pushed this on South Africa) will have European groups like the Solidariteit movement, Orania or Kleinfontein? Not as of yet. You haven't said much, unless the only reality you observe is that of the state, and not the nations that make up the state, in which case you're very liberal yourself little boy.
@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nqCome now Theotjie, neither of those groups you mentioned are European. Also telling someone that their reasoning is "very simplistic" but then calling them a "little boy" is ridiculously stupid.
Hair raising that the world is approaching the uncharted waters of AI - with SA politicians finding it difficult to comprehend the 2nd industrial revolution, basic economics or functional state administration.
Slavoj Zizek asked an ANC politican what did she think about her country. She responded that even among the black population there was a nostalgia for the apartheid days.
It's like how Iraq is ruled by foreign multinational companies now, yet all Iraqis miss Saddam. Same for Yugoslavia, East Germany, etc. It's really strange.
It’s not only South Africa. It’s the whole of subsaharan Africa, better known as Black Africa. Corruption, tribalism, racism, incompetence, lack of initiative, these are among other things, the main factors of the African disaster. Not one African country can compare to any European country when it comes to infraestructures, human affairs (hospitals, schools, etc.) no matter how rich the African country is (eg. Equatorial Guinea) or how poor the European country is (eg. Albania) the result is always the same. Africa is doomed because Africans do not admit their failures and rather blame colonialism, western interference or whatever comes to their minds. When I first visited South Africa in 1986, I couldn’t believe my eyes. I thought I was in some American city. Magnificent highways, Johannesburg’s city center a thriving cosmopolitan and clean tourist attraction (today it is a crime infested dirty slum), few European countries could boast what South Africa (apartheid regime) had. That was long ago. Today, under black majority rule, it is yet another black African country.
to be honest, SA is fast becoming a shithole. 25000 murders per year, 40% unemployment, thousands of teenage pregnancies ( below 14 years of age) rape capital of the world
You expect black Africans to get to where the Europeans got to within 30-60 years while y’all got there 1600 years after the collapse of the Roman Empire???
@kiuk_kiks you can't turn 75IQ Africans into 130IQ Europeans. Give Africa 10,000 years they don't give the intellectual capacity of Europeans and North Asians
South Africa was doomed to fail since 1994 when Nelson Mandela was elected president because the ANC was filled with people who had no practical experience governing. The ANC was not filled with businessman, or administrators, or experts in the field, it was filled with poetical activists and ideologues, who suddenly took a major role in actually deciding policy and holding complex administrative roles, which they were not prepared to do. Even though Nelson Mandela is long gone, the ANC at the national level is still filled with activists rather than experts. I think this is a good explanation as to why public services have failed in the country. What South Africa needs more than ever is for the next generation of educated citizens to take the reins of government. But the ANC has done a good job of quashing them, which is why all the top top young political talent is in other parties. The sad thing is that this was more or less inevitable, Nelson Mandela had to become president in 1994 and political activist had to become the next governor. It won’t be until at least 2029 that the ANC finally loses power. Until then South Africa will continue to stagnate or backslide.
If not for Colonialism Africa would still look like it did 10.000 years ago. Simple fact. Now they are just slowly returning to their real developmental level.
Truly, truly worrying. But the reasons might be different. It's just the absurd difference in social strata andctye associated wealth inequity in Europe. That can be tackled without evicting Europeans. However, in the UK I see the dangers of a surupticiously introduced caste system rapidly developing.
@@briopalumpus8676ANC and EFF racism coupled with their sub 80 IQ. Oh and btw the mythical so called White supremacy remains what it always was : a Media invented lie.
@briopalumpus8676 ANC and EFF racism coupled with their sub 80 IQ. Oh and btw the mythical so called White supremacy remains what it always was : a Media invented lie
France and the USA and all white-run countries ganged up against the slaves of Haiti (who freed themselves from slavery) to show others it is a bad idea to free yourself from slavery. They have punished Haiti from around 1800, and now they have returned to that idea. Whites never want a level playing field, they are always insisting on special terms. And now SA spoke up against genocide by Israel and some will be too happy to drag SA in the mud for that.
@@dantownsend4246 Haiti was fucked by the French , Americans , Canadians, Israelis, Just about everyone.. The only one case where other countries went out of their way to fuck Haiti for no reason at all.
Still missing a name change since Rhodesia is now known as Zimbabwe, a Robert Mugabe style dictator who led the country for decades and down the shitter even more with hyperinflation while South Africa didn’t have hyperinflation to the extent of Zimbabwe and they still had more than one leader in the decades since independence. And those are the two points I can immediately think of
@@thembastoep733 Murphy’s law. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong and in a place as chaotic as South Africa and the world for that matter, don’t be too shocked.
@@jackakakreanxx5587 I am telling if people resisted apartheid the way they did, we're tolerate a dictatoriship like that of Zimbabwe, we'll fight back like there's no tomorrow I'm telling you, we're not like most people in africa who fear their governments, here we put pressure
An Afrikaaner once told me an analogy of what South Africa is: "ZA is like a latte macchiato: a large dark lower layer, then a small white upper layer, and the chocolatte sprinkles on top are the Politicians"
Can you believe it? Like, seriously, who'd have thought that folks who can't even handle running a freakin' company could somehow magically steer a whole dang industrial nation like South Africa? It's a disaster waiting to happen. South Africa's screwed, man.
Look for what Malema and friends sings.... What do you expect? All white people should leave and move to Europe so Malema and friends are happier, Elon musk alone is worth more than the entire country.
Yes, it always amazes me how Indians lecture westerners about racism and yet their caste system, pretty much in place till today, is based on racial discrimination and segregation.🙈 Get real guys!
He is more known for his non violence movement. Most indians didn't even know he was in south africa. He was known for indian independence movement. And if they know about south africa they don't know he had racist views there
Indian see him as freedom fighters who free India from colonialism that's why same like uk see pm who is pure evil but see him as fight against another evil hitler.
Africa is the only continent that screamed "we want our independence," got it, then turned around and blamed their "overlords" when they (the Africans) screwed up. Most other places can at least acknowledge some of the good colonialism brought, infrastructure, education, healthcare, religion, etc... except Africa and they debatably needed colonialism more than anywhere else on the planet.
To be fair local elites were especially interested in independence and based on what ended in Swiss Banks they kind of may consider themselves as kind of successful...
lol, you acting like Europe just left Africa alone, are we just going to ignore the Neo colonial projects countries like France have in Africa, the fact that France controls like 13 African countries currencies is enough to demolish your argument. The fact I pull up like 50 declassified documents showing the US directly causing and funding rebellions, coups, wars is Africa is proof enough.
The blaming of the colonisers for their downfall which they created continues to be passed on to this day which is really sad and some africans just don't want to take responsibility and solve the mess their fellow citizens created.
Im not sure its proper to say they needed colonialism, maybe rather that they needed to open up and learn from outside world. Colonialism after all is about exploitation.
@@speggeri90Nothing is "needed" really. But if colonialism didn't happen, what do you think would happen instead. The answer is that European merchants would have just sold machine guns to whoever happened to live on the coastlines, and then they'd have conquered inland using those weapons. Europe would fundamentally change Africa either way.
As an English speaking White South African, I must commend you on a pretty accurate summation of the SA situation. Reality sometimes sucks, but there's no way of getting away from it.
Finally!! Someone who actually comments about how European society went through so much hardship to understand modern civilization, which the tribes had not and could not have been able to be easily integrated. Thank you so much for getting it.
As a Rwandan, I think the problem in Sub-Sahara might be "inheriting the country" VS "building the country". In Rwanda, we had to build the country from scratch after the Genocide, and there was an incentive to be competent(we had no natural resources). I think the Ethiopia and Botswana people also had to build their own institutions and infrastructure too. So, like you said, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and SA might not have the cultural experience of building up from scratch. Edit: Wow! Thanks for the likes and support.
Not having natural resources is usually a bless more than anything, people build more functional societies and economies that are way more resilient and expect everyone to be responsible, adults don't expect gold from the sky and childrens don't build any functional society that last crysis.
@Mark-gd2ti Hahah that's true, but I also feel a bit jealous of the Emiratis' wealth. We are also landlocked, so everything is expensive (relative to the average salary here). But we also have a good climate, a clean city and security. So there is much to be grateful for.
The thing that utterly amazes me about Rwanda is how the hell you Hutus and Tutsis are able to even talk to each other after that, let alone build together. There was never anything close to that in South Africa (though some blacks like Malema will have you believe otherwise), and I would say racial tensions are higher today than they ever were during apartheid because, as the video mentioned, whites get blamed for everything.
@dannyarcher6370 I'd say that there are 2 reasons: 1) We were never originally different tribes. Hutus and Tutsis were a class separation imposed by the Europeans to help them rule. We had clans, but we had the same culture and language. 2) Leadership. Our president has tried to make the country move forward, by force if necessary. Both allies and opposition have been chased out for trying to sow division. I remember last year some officials tried to reinstate an old clan, and there was a slew of firings and arrests. Besides, we, the younger generation, grew up in a stable country and get along with each other. It's not the most "democratic" or perfect system, but it's working so far.
@@thunderwing2124 Well, good luck to you. I have given up on a positive future for SA. Blacks just can't seem to move on from the past or be grateful for inheriting the most advanced economy on the continent by far. This year's elections are going to be very dangerous indeed because they are not abandoning the ANC for forward-thinking parties. They're going to ANC splinters with even louder black nationalist parties. I mean, you've seen what they do to even their fellow Bantus from across the continent!
The same was said of segregation in America, believe it or not. The wealthy ruling southern Whites wanted to keep the poor Whites and Blacks from confronting each other.
@@7th_CAV_Trooper That is exactly correct, as the Rwandan Genocide is proof of.Once French control was gone in Rwanda the two biggest tribal groups immediately began chopping one another into bits with machetes.Dozens of similar cases all over Africa in dozens of African Nations, Tribe A hates Tribe B and even though they are all Black they set out to exterminate one another , this dates back to the slave trade era and before.
I'm from a small eastern european country and i had relatives living there until a few years ago. I always wanted to visit but couldn't for various reasons . When i was finally able to they had to flee back to Europe after the big riots a few years ago and they think it's extremely unsafe now
My godfather is a Boer. He was a violin luthier and singer, now retired. He speaks Afrikaans, English, and Russian. He tried to teach my brother and I only the good parts about South Africa, because he'd get way too depressed talking about the bad
What would be the bad things? Awful treatment of black people? Violence? Or destruction of a country? I'm not attacking you or anything, I genuinely want to know.
@@sebsebski2829 "Awful treatment of black people?" this is such a misleading narrative. ZA isn't the US. It's africa. There was no underground railroad so blacks could go north to Zimbabwe. It was more like modern day dubai where the locals get a far higher standard of living than the laborers coming from south asia. Still unfair and brutal, but it isn't at all like what happened in the states.
There were black people during Apartheid who became millionaires. They had a number of advantages over East Germans at the time (I had been to the DDR a number of times) a black person could walk into a Mercedes dealership and buy a car just like a white person while an East German had to wait 10+ years to get his Trabant. He could buy a mansion for a home, he was free to travel internationally on his South African passport, privilege's East Germans did not have.
Nelson Mandela went to university and became a lawyer under apartheid. I get that the ANC was opposed to what they saw as colonial education which is why they encouraged black people to boycott schools, but they could have set up their own native schooling system and countries like the Soviet Union would have jumped at the chance to help - but the ANC didn't do this and they'll still a trainwreck when it comes to doing things that keep a modern civilisation functioning.
@@damionkeeling3103 Yes, Mandela was an educated man, shows blacks were not stopped from going threw university. From my observation, dictators (Stalin a good example) feared educated people, if you are well educated, you can think things threw, and see BS threw reasoning. Chaos is also a good tool to cause disruption and take control.
Lol blacks were not even free to travel within their own homeland. They had to carry special passes which regulated whether they could move out of native reserves or not. Even communist countries didn't have as extensive a system of internal passports. Great that blacks could buy Mercedes, except that most could not even afford them. Also your stat on there being more black millionaires during Apartheid is false and requires a citation.
One black millionaire doesn't reflect the reality of most black people in South Africa. I have a living uncle who lost an eye during the Sharpville massacre, I live with neighbors who were injected with unknown substances by the apartheid government. Their reality is not a far cry from the East Germans you speak of.
I am a white Afrikaaner South African. Good job on the video. I appreciate people who actually do some research instead of making kneejerk reactions. Best of luck, sir.
Be proud of your forefathers! All groups have a mix of historical Good & Bad, should be considered in historical context. Afrikaners are incredible pioneers, farmers, & a noble people who should proudly preserve its culture. Best wishes on a long, healthy, & prosperous life!
Does it talk about how the first democratically elected leader of the Congo was overthrown by a Belgium company who wanted to keep exploiting the country?
does it mention all the coups in SSA as well? Does it mention France/UK/USA installing dictators that would do whatever was in line with Western interests? Even if it meant brutalizing local populations? Child labour? Or does it just give - in a myopic a view as possible what will sound good to white conservative ears?
@@christopher5846 You watched the move "The Siege of Jadotville". No. It was a about the Cold War influence games. Better "our democracy" then being under Red influence.
@@anon2034'our democracy' ah, so a neoliberal military dictatorship. I like how honest most westerners are when it comes le "democratic" values they yap about all day. I have not watched whatever that movie you mentioned is. I happen to not get my eduction and history from movies.
@@christopher5846 "so a neoliberal military dictatorship" I agree with your statement. I was making the arguement that it wasn't mining interests but rather a political strugle between USA and USSR. Mercenary Mike Hoare was financed by the CIA for example.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
@@Marchaund I often think it's unfair to have received the short end of the stick. None of us made ourselves. I did nothing to deserve being born white with the intelligence I have, just as a Bushman did nothing to be born a Bushman with an IQ of about 65 on average. The wrong thing is to deny reality and to be a rabble rouser telling those less fortunate that it's somebody else's fault, and they should insist to receive more.
Sad to look back because SA had an incredible military and industrial capacity, it was a nation that built nukes with no help from either the Soviets or the US. Building a nuclear weapon from scratch is obviously extremely difficult. Sad that a nation with such ability has crumbled to nothing, but yes it’s good they no longer have any WMDs
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
Can you please explain to us how your extremely successful society was going to keep going if aparheid was not dismantled? I suppose you think the Blacks were just going to lie down and rot? Or were you planning on killing them all with no pushback whatsoever? Do tell us
Successful economies and societies do not collapse like a house of cards. Successful economies and societies evolve and adapt to changing conditions. SA was the opposite of successful from the beginning: they prospered short term but are suffering long term.
@@fjtpersian6566 At least they had jobs, and industry was growing not shrinking. Eventually they could've been used in a sweatshop factory like the Chinese, but they'll never get the chance now.
With out Mandela, or a figure like him, white South Africans would have had all their property confiscated at best and been massacred en masse at worst. Apartheid ZA was not sustainable, and Mandela made its deconstruction as peaceful as could reasonably have been hoped. That isn't to say he is above criticism, or that the ANC isn't responsible for the country's subsequent mismanagement, but I think its hard to argue that he wasn't crucial in preventing what could have been a humanitarian disaster and possibly genocide.
This, and Empire of Dust, should be shown in every school in the West. Unfortunately, they’re making the exact same mistake by inserting D E I in every institution
I always appreciate mention of overpopulation in discussions of human misery. It is a taboo subject that is rarely mentioned, and yet it is perhaps the ultimate cause of so much misery.
The idea that direct redistribution is supposed to somehow lead to an uptick in quality of life is the key fallacy in terms of South Africa's downfall. Taking resources directly away from the more affluent classes in any country is rarely going to improve things, a better approach is to force-multiply opportunity through proper policy, wise incentives, and a very gentle corrective touch on the markets to disentangle the biggest messes. Instead the ANC ham-handed unrealistic and overreaching projects, siphoned all the tax money into graft, and repeatedly blamed history for the problems thus arising. To cease favouring one class does not mean to take what it already has, and to do so will result in sour feelings at least, and a slippery slope at worst. Unfortunately, South Africa's far more worst than best case scenario.
If only they had followed the US example, they would end up with boom and bust every few years, no social services and crippling inequality. Oh wait SA economy is already liberalised. Perhaps that's the problem.
@@christopher5846- They would do much better with the US model, but they just can’t get anything right. Socialism and its offshoots have brought nothing but pain, some people are just too dumb to see it
During Apartheid, when white kids went to school, their parents had to pay school fees and pay for their books. Black kids did not have to pay, as the Apartheid government decided it was too much of a financial burden on the have nots and may end up causing them to not go to school. Getting blacks a school education was a benefit for the economy. There was also a program to get blacks out of tin shacks and into proper structure homes, 99 year mortgage and 0% interest, financed by the state. I think that was a very good idea even though the whites who paid the taxes did not benefit from it. We had to try and uplift them from the squalor, try and make life better. The problem was the reproductive rate outstripped what the state could do.
You forgot to mention the part where blacks received inferior "Bantu education" that only trained them for menial labour and the Apartheid government spent 10 times more per child on white education than black education, with slightly smaller ratios for coloureds and Indians. Don't try to whitewash Apartheid.
I am a black young South African and if this is really true, then I was not aware of it. I'm interested in learning how our country functioned politically and economically during the Apartheid regime. Do you have any sources of information that you recommend I should check out? Every "intellectual" is so biased nowadays. I have a professor at UCT of all places subtly preaching socialism in our lectures. It's sad.
Facts... Yes we were forced monthly to contribute to " their " benefits & needs even if you could not afford to. They just kept on destroying everything. I remember clearly on TV them burning & trashing their school. VERY NEXT DAY.... same fella whom spearheaded the chaos was on TV AGAIN ... CRYING and we don't have schools for our people. I was floored. GREAT mindset GOING FORWARD 🤦♀️ you can't help those whom are NOT willing to help themselves.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
A woman from Senegal has the correct answer for Africa (and a book), and it starts with stop playing the victim.Then you build businesses, but because Africa is so socialist and bureaucratic and its almost impossible, she wants to build small business areas in countries that are excluded from that.She says 2 countries have already said yes.
@johnm7267 Agreed. Racist (on all sides), bureaucraric, corrupt? Absolutely. Socialist though...maybe nominally (as in they may call themselves that), but realistically there isn't much in terms of socialism, hardly any worker-owned cooperatives exist.
Most African countries have super high debt and loan payments so they tax the crap out of everyone and businesses. That's why people don't go start businesses there. You get almost no profit.
@@johnm7267There are multiples more people on welfare than people paying tax. Sounds pretty socialist to me. They're just too useless to have enough work for everyone.
"it took European civilizations centuries from dirt-floor shacks to light switches. Behind those advances stood revolutions in science, industry, religion, and social interaction. Those cultural prerequisites were invisible to many black South Africans, but they turned out to be essential." I think this sums it up perfectly, and is true to many other African and Asian countries who want to take the shortcut to wealth and power. Yeah, some post-Soviet European countries too.
Asian countries are not taking a "shortcut" to wealth and power. Asia was an epicenter of innovation and civilization for years, and made advancements that Europe wouldn't match until industrial times in some cases. Exactly what asian countries have become "failed states" post-colonialism? The "cultural prequisites" had always been there.
100 years from now the history books on South Africa will simply read: “European colonists first settled on a permanent basis in 1652 and established a society based on a European model. However, unlike other settlements in America, Australia and New Zealand, the colonists always remained a minority and their government was eventually overthrown in 1994 by the majority of indigenous people. Subsequent to that transition, the country quickly regained the system of governance it had prior to colonisation. In such a system, tribal regional strongmen rule without accountability amassing large personal wealth with no tolerance for opposition. Consequently, development stalled and life expectancy, per capita income, and literacy levels all declined for the broader population.” Somewhere in there, you and I lived our lives. The rest is just detail.
In America the political and cultural leaders have been replacing the European descended population for fifty years now and the nation is disintegrating in perfect lockstep. The tiny (élite) at the top like for everyone else to be at one another's throats. In ten years European descended people will be a minority here.
The only thing that guarantees huge levels of immigration into Europe is the European governments facilitating it instead of preventing it. In particular Britain is an island that could very easily have secure borders and zero net inward migration, especially in this day and age of AI and drones.
Exactly. If Russia was planning on invading Britain with a sea borne army, they sure as hell would find a way to stop them arriving. The truth is that the politicians want to grow the population, as it increases GDP and hides the fact that the UK economy has been either stagnant or contracting for the past several decades.
They're shipping them in en masse. I've seen people from the UK complain that when they went out after lockdowns, the entire town has changed into POC majority, as if the gov't brought them all in when no one was looking. 🤔
I feel bad for the brits in particular, their government is pushing the immigration while the natives have no real weapons to stop it. Atleast here in the US if SHTF you can fall back on militias and all that but in Britain not so much
When Europeans arrived in sub-Saharan Africa black Africans had not yet invented a written language, the wheel, the sail or the plow. Europeans developed sub-Saharan Africa towards an industrial economy. Since independence, every single African country has become poorer and more socially chaotic. That is just a fact. Personally, I oppose colonialism and favor Liberty via Natural Rights, free trade and free markets.
One can hardly view it negatively when it uplifts a local population from almost stone age horrifying customs and extreme poverty into something that looks very similar to the western civilization. Even with any possible faults, the pros are so overwhelming, there can be no doubt about advantages. "Hey, we have no written language and we are cannibalizing our neighbors but at least we're independent" - is a perfect example of a pathetic excuse
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
@@Marchaund "Calls himself a Blackman" yet offers no proof! Just like he does on Stormfront where no one believes him either once he spouts his drivel! What a 🤡!
Whatever you say in the comments, don't ever discuss the root cause: cognitive differences which are 60-80% genetic. Any discussion of them will make your comment vanish.
Hear, hear. But it's not politically correct to mention the fact that certain groups, even though through no fault of their own, have lower IQs than other groups. It will upset them, and upsetting people is not politically correct. So, we pretend it isn't so.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
Gandhi did not free India. A certain Austrian fellow waged war against their British oppressors for 6 years and bankrupted them. Post WWII, The British could not have held onto India even if they wanted to.
They couldnt have held even without ww2. India's independence movement had already picked up so much steam preww2 that independence was almost surely going to happen. The only question was how it would happen
@@Colin-ut6cm correction, they was gonna drop it no matter what. India was just a waste bin of resources, compared to what they got in return. As India had nothing to offer then, stagnated, no need to improve, hot climate no need to worry.
I was born in Argentina but grew up in SA , I now live in Uruguay, I grew up in a great time ,Apartied had ended but the country had not fallen due to corruption, I am lucky to have great memories and have SA culture but equal lucky to have left when I did in 2009
@@JamesDBlanc It's great , Truly Grateful to be here , It's safe (Especially outside of Montevideo), great beaches , Great beef 🍖 ,love Maté . It is expensive but think that is the price you pay for a good quality of life
@@JamesDBlanc It's not "safe" as people romanticize it. While it's mostly empty, 70% of the country intersects with the borders of Argentina and Brazil, those areas are quite dangerous as they have become a hotspot for narcos moving drugs due to crappy government policies and lack of border patrolling.
Apartheid nostalgia is pretty disgusting, no matter how bad this government is... Its still miles better than being a second class citizen in the country of ones birth...
In every country that was once a British or European colony, as soon as they forced the colonists out, the countries turned to shit. India, South Africa, Haiti, Congo, etc. Too many to mention.
@@Avantika005 Seriously? Are you blind, deaf and dumb? India is one of the most corrupt countries on earth and has one of the highest poverty rates known to man. Not to mention the caste system, the enormous rates of rape, thievery, pestilence, poor education and graft.
@@pgstdb Your forefathers lived in Europe since time immemorial until the mid-17th century. If you took a DNA test, it would highlight Europe as your homeland.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
He touched on this in the video, but I spent some time in South Africa, and the "are they racist?" question of the Afrikaaners was one thing that puzzled me. I heard them talk, and it's like they have no filter. They would say things that to my ears as an American, sounded shockingly racist. But they also were almost always kind in their interactions with the blacks and when they talked about their country going downhill, it was clear they were worried about the fates of all South Africans, not just the whites. Just an example of this kind of behavior, we went to a market where all the shop keepers were black and you had to haggle over the prices. Before we went in, my Afrikaaner friend told me that while I should negotiate the price down, don't push it because these people really needed the money and I could afford to let them have a little extra.
@@user-eb7wv5wt3j They went back and forth between English and Afrikaans. And sometimes when they were speaking in Afrikaans and they'd all burst out laughing, my friend would explain what was being said.
You should do a video about Lebanon. Textbook demographic example of war, emigration, immigration. And different TFRs among different ethno-religious groups.
I think it'll happen regardless, Africa is witnessing huge climate problems, every year temperatures are on the rise, water percentage is getting lower and lower not to mention Deforestation and desertification
The mistake is having open borders in Europe and a big welfare state that supports foreigners. Immigration should be an internal decision and not dictated by outsiders like it was with many western countries under the influence of the USA. (The USA pressured Germany in the 60s to take turks, USA pressured many Eastern Europeans to embrace multiculturalism in the 90s to prepare for mass immigration in the coming decades).
I'm a white South African born in 1949 and stuck here alone without a family who have emigrated. 😬 I'm too old and poor to leave, esp with the bad exchange rate due to the weak Rand. Thank you for a very balanced history and overview of our country
@@herpederpe4320 UK won't let me in under their new rules, even if my son can afford to care for me or if I was a multi-millionaire or if I was dying! I have nowhere to go and at 75 I'm stuck here. Its amazing to me that a decent old lady with UK family can't get in but the UK govt are letting in "refugees" by the 1,000s; but thank you for your concern
As a South African I can say this is one of the most accurate and unbiased videos about South Africa. The biggest, but not the only, reason for the income inequality is the massively different cultures between the different groups. You also allude to it near the end.
culture is part of the problem but I think population growth is probably the biggest problem in many countries. a family have a house they have 6 children in 20 years they need 5 more houses but does the productivity, GDP etc grew 5 times? at some point math leads to wars/famine and poverty. it happens in India/Asia/Africa/SAmerica so its not race related
@@ixirion In the African context even overpopulation is a result of culture: The traditional African view is that number of children is your retirement planning. Yes, that is a pre-industrial belief, but that is the problem with (any) culture that doesn't adapt fast enough.
@@ixirion Actually all those things also have an effect on culture, but in this case, it is as simple as traditions and beliefs from the past. It seems to me you are deliberately trying to make the issue nebulous.
@@JohannY3 I dont think so. If you think it trough that is the essence of the problem or at least major part of it. think logicaly - issue - main reasons -. solutions. Culture is much broader concept but dont encomapas all reasons or most importantly all solutions. For example forced sterilization is not culture related solution, reducing the food will lead to death trough starvation, you can entact laws that are forced troug police like abortions after the second child etc. None of this is culture related
I've been told on two occasions, when just speaking on my phone in my local area, that I should "be careful what I say . . ." because my neighbourhood is now a "predominantly Muslim area". How did that happen? And why are complete strangers listening in to my conversations? It's very scary.
The Afrikaaners only fought the British because the Brits would not leave them alone. The Afrikaaners fled the British controlled Cape, then ... the Brits followed them. They wanted the gold that was discovered where the Afrikaaners settled. The Brits were also responsible for setting up the early foundations of Apartheid. Along with sending Afrikaaners to concentration camps in Sri Lanka / Ceylon. Best to see the Brits for what they are.
The British doomed white South Africans by persecuting the Boers. They should have given them a piece of land for their republic. By wanting it all they created hatred and division which eventually destroyed the country.
@@kevinstevens2120 the Brits were anything but smart in South Africa, greedy is a better term. They could have let the Afrikaneers have their own piece of land for their republic, but instead they wanted everything for themselves and it backfired badly
The world likes to forget British concentration camps making believe that they are a Nazi invention. My ouma was herded into one at age 9 so I heard first hand what that was like
24:58 obsolete chart. Murder rates in El Salvador are down to US-esque levels since Bukele took power and fixed the gang problem using dictatorial methods. Meanwhile, Ecuadorean murder rates are massively up due to gang violence (not sure if they're top ten level though). BTW, please make an analysis of the Baltic states next! (I'm Latvian)
They had US levels of murder in 2022, they were way below the US in 2023. It now competes with Canada for the title of safest country in the western hemisphere. It's geniunely insane what bukele did
It's lower than the Us. Us is 4-6 per 100k in homicide rate. El Salvador has dropped at 2.4. It's officially the country with the lowest murder and crime rates in the Americas.
@@captainvanisher988 there are allegations that it's fudging the number, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's true because it's basically a police state. It needs to finish the crackdown and get the deficit under control. Gangs being destroyed will cause an economic boom.
I saw one video of his many years ago where he was complaining that the Chinese seemed to not accept him as Chinese despite living there for a while and assimilating. And I was like buddy you’re some western white boy of course they’re not gonna except you. You’re not Chinese no matter how much you “assimilate.” But maybe I’ll give him a second chance. P.S. Obviously racism against any people is wrong, I just don’t have a high opinion of expats.
I know he has lived in china, I used to subscribe to him, but he seems like an anti china propagandist or something. I saw his new video about "murder season in china" and it's such a joke
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 No obviously not. I’m saying that he wasn’t Chinese no matter how hard he tries to assimilate. The Chinese seem to have an in group preference and honestly whites need to rediscover that in ourselves as well. Also, I just don’t have a high opinion of American expats. I find them kind of cringe.
Let's face facts.. south african economy was built by white folks, from farming to industrials, to excellent roads.. then Zimbabwe, the white folks built farming background to mining, infrastructure and education.. in both instances the black took over, look at the current conditions... And go all out to see black communities across the African countries, i hate to admit this but we as blacks are incapable of ruling ourselves.. honestly.. Botswana is trying, considering the fact that they did everything by their own from scratch, without the involvement of a white man..
@@martychisnall Because whites living there was always doomed to fail. Let the natives build up and destroy themselves. They don't want you in S.A. Also ango South Africans should have gotten citizenship from the UK but sadly no they give it to anyone else.
We give far too many citizenships to people who let their countries be messed up. The Boers might have been an unlikable bunch, people that just settled to farm on uncultivated land are the least of problem or colonial heritage.
TFW you protested to end Apartheid because it’s ignorant and raaaaa-cist,but then you realize it actually was a rational policy with sound justification
@@marccamp6376 Merely pointing out that after Apartheid was abolished South Africa has entered the downward spiral of so many other African countries in the post colonial era. Exactly what Apartheid was meant to stop, and precisely what happened when it was abolished
maybe you mention this is the end of the video, the Zulu are not native they invaded as much as the Brits did. They ended apartheid to hand the country over to another invader, that said the Khoi apparently have an ok relationship with them now after both going through aparthied
They're native by this point. I think "natives" in any land are just the latest bunch of invaders occupying the land. Natives, countries, peoples...they all come and go as the millenia steadily march on.
@@DenUitvreter How come, when they are beneficiaries of the same policies meant to address the historical injustices faced by all non-whites. Also, they make up the majority of the DA-governed Western Cape, so you cant blame the black man for their troubles.
@@nikosgreek352 Yes and no. As a Greek person you should know that the illegal immigrant from mainland Turkey to Northern Cyprus are not natives and if a union was ever to happen, they'd be deported en masse. That's just one example. Another example is how jews repopulated their ancestral lands. For someone to be considered a native they must have at least a few centuries of existence in the lands and be part of the culture of the region.
Hey man would love to see a video on the UK. I was born in 1994 and can barely recognise the country I grew up in. The UK is a very interesting case because we have very high immigration of low skill workers from Pakistan and Nigeria, whilst at the same time increasing emmigration of the native population to Australia, US and Dubai. Australia in particular is very popular and I know many people who have moved there.
Fatal lack of conscientiousness. It went below minimum levels required to sustain industrial civilization and so it succumbs back to what this society (I don't mean race, but culture and basic mind set) can sustain. Two friends were starting up factories around the world including Africa. Both of them had seen this upfront at all levels of organization. Lazy European worker will still usually half-ass his job for some of the time, so his efficiency is not great but he will still do the bare minimum. Meanwhile in Subsaharan Africa majority will do absolutely nothing. Zero output unless directly supervised but where would you get diligent supervisors in a culture like that? The few that do something are still part of it. Like one of my friends gave a raise to a guy who did a good job over couple of days, next day a different man comes in his place. Now he expects to take raise amount for supplying his cousin who will do his job for previous salary. South Africans can and did adopt "white" culture previously and a middle class of able black people was already forming. But since Mandela they're screwed just like the Afrikaaner. They can't impose standards, instead they are squeezed out by the activists and political clans.
The difference in conscientious is such a perfect way to summarise the differences. The Europeans, evolved in cold regions. They had to extremely hard for a portion of the year, to get proper food reserves. Crops and animals were only available during warmer months. The Africans, on the other hand, had access to food all year round. They didn't have to develop that conscientious. They didn't have to do something thoroughly, or work in advance, because tomorrow would always turn out okay for them.
@@user-gz1nv6nw3q That naturalistic explanation would be compelling if it didn't outright contradict recorded history. People trying to set up factories in Germany during the early industrial revolution also complained about the workers being lazy and chronically late, with even odds of being drunk when they deigned to appear.
I have a different experience with my visits to industries in African countries, the African worker is usually abused and even underpaid despite having the qualifications. The African sees no need to work diligently for an abusive boss. Heck, if I was the one, I would do less than bare minimum if I was being abused like an African worker.
@@drno87 Except Western Europe became the most industrious economies for hundreds of years until world war gave all our wealth to America and take our place.
This is so loaded. It is far FAR easier to design a country where 20% live off the backs of 80% of people than it is to design a country that works for everyone and corrects obvious past injustices. Based on the comments, critical thinking must not be taught in South Africa amongst the former ruling class.
Way back in 1989 a South African friend of mine explained the situation there. He was all for ending aparteid (he is white) and predicted it would come to an end in the near future - which it did 5 yrs later. But he was far more concerned about what would replace the system based on the ideology of the political activists who would ascend to power. The tragedy is S Africa has essentially become another aparteid state but w/out the prosperity of the former state.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
Well, the SA white ruling elites had consciously rejected the idea of integration when it was still time to do it (like the 1960s when black political movements were starting to emerge). As a result, the education and wealth gap between the whites and the blacks grew to an extent where the system became unsustainable. And then the apartheid pendulum swang. Btw, Communism was very similar in its failure.
If you read about Mkhonto we sizwe's "intelligence service" branch and their activities with places such as Camp Quatro, you realize that Jacob Zuma is in fact the African version of Lavrenti Beria.
Neither blacks nor whites are the native race of South Africa. That would be the Khoisan tribes, who have been almost genocided out of existence by both the Dutch settlers and the Bantu migrants.
@@aem870 Africans (including the Bantu) have neaderthal genes. The problem here is that South African whites (Apertheid leaning ) delegitimize the indigeneship of Bantus in the country by claiming that the only native people were the Khoisan which is a fat lie! Khoisans and Bantus are both indigenous to the the present borders of South Africa. And both groups were on the land long before whites arrived from Europe. This does not by anyway indicates that whites are not citizens or even "natives" of that country. But such dishonest narratives (comments) should be condemned.
Interestingly enough, authoritarianism > anarchism comparison also applies to parenting. There are many, many studies showing that children with strict and even abusive parents do BETTER in life than those with indifferent parents. Ultimately people and societies need structure and even incompetent structure is better than none at all. And FWIW, authoritative parenting (which can be paralleled with liberal democracy) has been shown to produce the most successful children.
You should cover Turkey and Iran next. Irans low TFR shows that even mandated traditionslism dosent work, and the collapse of the birthrates of ethnic Turks shows that even Islam is receptive to modernization.
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 It does. The declining TFR of Turks shows that islamuc societies, beyond a certain level of development, are also gradually undermined by modernity, meaning that islam will end up defunct this century. (Turkey does not publish birth rates based on ethnicity. However, you can look at an ethnic map of the nation, a map of economic development and a map of regional birthrates to come to said vonclusion. Some regions are at below 1.2, as of 2022 almost no even rural turkish mayority province has sustainable birth rates) Irans islamic theocracy standing on eggshells shows that traditionalism wont work in the long run even if enforced with authoritarian methods.
I'd argue that there's no religious imperative for Iranians and Turks to have more kids in a land that's already been Islamised. As such, I don't think Islam will end up 'defunct' or anything similar. The religion seems to be making greater and greater inroads into the West and parts of Africa.
The problem with Iran and Turkey is islam itself. It's a destructive religion to its core, in order to exist it has to spread otherwise it dies down. Hence why they are invading the West as we speak. The entire history of islam was invading. Mandated traditionalism funnily does work as long as the government has an actual grip/influence over the population. The Iran regime doesn't. It surprised me when I found out how many Iranians are actually secretly seculars/zoroastrians and highly dislike the regime. Another issue is with the regime itself. It's a dysfunctional one. Islam is certainly receptive to modernization. Feminism and modernity are two of the most infectious ideologies/lifestyles in recent history. It has permeated almost all societies and the result are plummeting birth rates. Now if we look at the very religious cohort, it seems like it's the only one working. Very religious people have more than a healthy birth rate and are also slowly rising in population. From what I see, there will be a population collapse and if Christians play their cards well, they can take over society with 3-4 generations just like marxists did.
South Africa’s story is like finally moving out your parent’s house that you hate, but then you become homeless afterwards
It's like the rich people from the other side of town heard your parents were asses so they came and set fire to your house, then walked away patting each other on the back and left you standing on the front lawn with your sister.
@@stevem815better said
Well said
No, South Africa's story is more like you gave your house to a group that are clueless about maintaining a house.
spot on
I was in Johannesburg last year: no street lights, no traffic lights, intermittent electricity, caged into the accommodation. I couldn't wait to get home. South Africa is a failed state.
Sounds like Detroit.
London, Rotherham
Correct.
@@julieclonan2427 Non white cities tend to be like that.
@@kek3908 Have you been to Rotherham, Birmingham, London and a few other places in The UK?
South Africa:
>"fuck the white farmers!"
> starves
Also South Africa:
>"How could this be happening?!"
Many such cases.
Zimbabwe too. Haiti said they “don’t need no w man help” and look at them
@@ESPLTD322 Oh well.
Exactly idk what the US’ obsession is with trying to help people who refuse to help themselves
@@ESPLTD322 Zimbabwe ... Zero Income Mainly because All British Workers Emigrated (not my acronym)
@@robinstuyvesant7187 that’s a good one actually lmao
It's been 30 years since apartheid ended and black people were handed a wealthy country. No excuses anymore.
Same happen all over africa.
Ignorance
@@sharonanthonique1255truth hurts
South Africa wasn’t wealthy only the white minority were rich and lived in big cities meanwhile the black majority still lived in poverty, this system was never sustainable and was doomed to collapse
@@thatoneguy6687 that explains why they can't fix the roads, the waterlines or the power lines. Because rich Whites absconded to the magical kingdom of cope with all their money. Strangely, all of the poor oppressed Blacks can't ever seem to generate wealth on their own, even with an entire government behind them.
As a South African it sucks how bad our country has gotten but to most of us in the younger generation it's all we've known. That's why it was so surreal the first time i went to Europe and discovered working infrastructure and public transport 😂
The state was pretty functional up until Zuma and ramaphosa took over .
Sorry tor your loss, your countrymen were too idealistic, you should have moved the population in the West of the country to make a majority white country.
@@Perrirodan1 whites are not a majority anywaywhere.in the western side of the country whites r only around 12 percent
Europe is going the South African way. You can thank Western "liberals" 🙈
Jews did it
There is a truth here no one can admit without being called racist. That doesn’t make it any less true.
With a Hard R...
It’s not racist to take note that every black run nation, state or council is a failure.
I don’t get it
The reality is, it's also a truth that can't be argued against by any metric anyone , no matter how motivated , can produce.It's absolute FACT that S.A. is worse off now, in every conceivable way than it was under Apartheid. Now I'm not saying Apartheid was good, or even acceptable , but what i AM saying is the " solution" to it has in every way,been WORSE than it was itself.
The problem is that Migration was going on so fast, maybe uf you teach 3 Generations of Africans modetn Technology thery will lernen adapt. But dont put 10 Millionen primitive people to modern Country
Whats the difference between a tourist and a racist in South Africa?
2 weeks
As Thomas Sowell said, poverty arises not from failure to redistribute wealth, but from failure to produce.
I love Mr Sowell. What a man...Marvellous
I hate living here. There's no jobs, no electricity, and no safety. Crime, corruption and unemployment have made this country unlivable.
Head to the border with Mexico.
@@sylviamaresca8852 Wish I could. Gonna pull a Houdini soon :)
It's so bizzare that some people in my country think it's developed.
Move to North Dakota. Lots of good South Africans here already.
@@ffarmchicken Wish I could but it's basically impossible to get into the USA without a sponsored work VISA, or getting a greencard lottery.
South Africa has gone to shit since the apartheid ended
Things were going pretty well until Mbheki got ousted and later replaced by He Who Shall Not Be Named.
It was already struggling a bit, right before Apartheid ended. The entire international community imposed sanctions on South Africa.
In 1989 SA was being sanctioned and its economy slowed down, so we could say from 1989 that's where the downfall began.
Apartheid SA had an unsustainable economic model, it would have fallen sooner or later, but the ANC did not help at all
lol this is a lie, the economy was already destroyed under the apartheid government
The fact that SA was better under apartheid says a lot.
Just more proof, blacks can't govern
it wasnt, it was shit before, it is shit now.
Go further back. Life was relatively easy for the Bantu tribes pre-colonisation. Abundant resources, space and a hot climate. Tribal conflict was the major threat and even that isn't unique to Southern Africa, us Europeans found ways to slaughter one another. It was the introduction of European industry, agriculture and commerce that complicated life for the African.
Why are people from the failed ANC governed provinces fleeing to the Western Cape....?
Maybe for you white folks
Tolerance of corruption is fatal. Refusing to recognise that corruption is stupid. The ANC is corrupt.
_The ANC is corrupt._ They're an African government. What did you expect? Politicians are corrupt all over the world with those in some parts of the world, like South America and Africa, more corrupt.
Don't notice the pattern. Don't notice the pattern. Don't notice the pattern. Don't notice the pattern. . . . . . . . .
what pattern?
@@Azrael777_ that's the spirit!
Terry A. Davis was right about black peepo
@@JesusMartinez-fy3yf So was Rudyard Kipling.
Ah but the great noticing is happening. Soon it will break out of the digital realm and into the real world.
I'm a South African I know it only gets worse as of now we havent had electricity for the past 18 hrs and I'm afraid one day the electricity will never come back
Blackouts are your culture now.
In the self same South Africa we were once taught in schools had enough electricity to power the whole sub-saharan Africa 😭⁉️
Remember Dr Ian McRae, CEO of Eskom, when he was in charge, South Africa could have supplied the whole of Southern Africa with electricity, Thabo Mbeki replaced him with a political appointees, hence the mess today
The Water supply is the next catastrophe.
Just Shocking!
Time to end the lie of the "Rainbow nation." Go for meritocracy and oust the ANC.
Dude have you looked at countries where black's have ruled themselves? Ethiopia: Shit. Zimbabwe: Took all the land from their most productive members of society (white people) and proceeded to run themselves into the ground. Haiti: Killed all the white people, ran themselves into the ground, tried to invade their neighbor to boost themselves up. Neighbors kicked them out and has remained shit ever since. Sure you may have some like Bostwana that do well. But that's not the rule. The ANC is not being ousted, they are there to stay and they will eventually go after the white population that is in South Africa.
I mean, surely the notion of a rainbow nation isn't the problem, it's the corruption, inequality, crime etc.
@alexpotts6520 Of course, I just decisively used the term because the corrupt elements in that country still tout that notion while not exercising actual diversity of thought coupled with competency in governance.
Also, I am willing to state that supremacist movements on any side in SA have been so detrimental as of late.
@@rainyvideos3684ethiopia is growing economically well, even despite having had a major conflict, they host the headquarters of the african union and they're a stable compared to its neighbours; haiti's failure had its origins after independence and not because they killed white people, in fact they spared polish people because they helped them with the independence, but rather because france demanded haiti to pay a huge sum of money for the slave owners or risk invasion and that sum of money wasn't paid off fully until 1946, as well as that haiti was sanctioned and isolated, because western powers didn't like the idea of a black republic being the first country to abolish slavery; haiti has also been occupied by the US in the early 20th century which also affected their economy and political situation, because after that, they've gotten coups, assassinations and other disasters, it didn't help that they also haven't recovered from the 2010 earthquake;
there are other succesful sub saharan countries like botswana, namibia, ghana, kenya, rwanda, tanzania, gabon; which are more stable compared to south afrca
@@alexpotts6520 Stop spreading your progressive liberal ideology it’s failed everywhere.
The old expression "Made your bed now lie in it" has never been more apt
Or as Kelly Bundy said, "You wet your bed, now lie in it."
No, what will happen is total collapse! Can the elites still blame racism?
I lived in South Africa on the 1970's. The biggest fear of the black people of South Africa after aparthied ended, was what their own people where about to do to this country. They had a good reason to be fearsome of their own! The AMC have destroyed the economy of South Africa.
AMC was a car company, ANC are the corrupt grifters I think you meant.
"The biggest fear of the black people of South Africa after apartheid ended, was what their own people were about to do to this country". What nonsense! If that were the case, why did they vote for the ANC in droves - repeatedly.....?
@danguee1 are you 100% sure they were voted by the people? Who can assure you they didn't draw the numbers, add fake votes, made the dead vote and so on?
Argentina is the best example of how easily you can commit electoral fraud. When you don't watch the election from beginning to end, criminals can get into power. When you pay attention, they can't win.
The same ANC that has just lost a lot of power due to their corruption and abysmal job of governing SA?
@@danguee1not 100% of black people vote ANC... use your brain for once
Everyone in the comments who are laughing at South Africa should be aware that South Africa is being used as the template for the future of the entire Western world.
It has already begun in the major cities of America and Western Europe...
And not only in the cities. But I wonder why noone is doing anything against it in this "Western world". Everyone seems to me to be hiding from everyone else. Not even here on the internet do we dare to write what exactly we believe. CZcams's censorship has also contributed to this unfortunately I must say.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 Really? At least online, even on yt I see growing number of people while who while careful with wording, were able to name the problem rather bluntly. My most shocking moment when last month normally left leaning TLDR news while discussing permanent misfortunes of one particular Caribbean island, had effectively comment section filled with comments related to estimates of local average IQ. I'd say that we're slowly seeing the shift.
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450
Well, I have seen such comment sections since 2016 (when I myself was not aware of the thing(s) I am aware now - which I will not name here because my comment will be removed again, like my very previous comment here was). But I can tell you that my/this account has been shadow banned by CZcams since March 2022, when I used the opposite word than the word "beautiful" quite a few times, without being insulting and/or harmful to anyone at any point, and since then if my comments do not receive at least one like within 10s, they are removed. Which is why I must immediately like all my comments.
Needless to say about other platforms, such as Twitter, which froze my account twice in Aug-Oct 2020, Facebook which blocked me from commenting for 10 days, for 8 times, and always for the above reason. So I use CZcams only because it is the least intolerant platform basically, where I can post comments like these, and communicate with others somehow. I also abandoned Bitchute because I found 80-90% of the content there just wrong, mistaken, and misleading, although I partially understand why this is like that, and I myself have very often in the past believed in things that were proven to be wrong.
I am greek by the way.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 I have seen even wilder comment section but that was the first time where under a mainstream, English language channel it was effectively looking like the truth completely derailed the narrative.
Oddly, I was quite careful with wording (or maybe I come from a country that they don't care as under the same topic I was allowed to talk about laptop of prodigal son of one of US president, while Americans were not) but I was never banned here.
It's a bit tricky with alt tech as one hand they have even more low quality content and poor algorithm, while on the other ex Jolly Heretic place there stuff that may be too contentious for yt. Or one could finf there well researched Am Ren or Alt Hype. Are you familiar with those?
south Africa is too different because the country always had a lot of black people and i noticed the people in south Africa are different than in other parts of Africa. i wont get in detail about that
All liberal roads lead to South Africa.
Very simplistic reasoning. What precisely in South Africa does it lead to? Is there any indication that your Western liberal societies (which together with the Soviet and Islamic world pushed this on South Africa) will have European groups like the Solidariteit movement, Orania or Kleinfontein? Not as of yet. You haven't said much, unless the only reality you observe is that of the state, and not the nations that make up the state, in which case you're very liberal yourself little boy.
@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq It may be simplistic, it's still entirely correct.
@@porcine83 Not really, maybe in your strange fantasies. The reality is you're too individualistic to build the kind of institutions I referred to.
@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nqCome now Theotjie, neither of those groups you mentioned are European. Also telling someone that their reasoning is "very simplistic" but then calling them a "little boy" is ridiculously stupid.
Aye, straight to Hell.
Why does anyone expect people who have never invented the wheel to have the capacity to run a modern country?
No one ever told you they built Stonehenge😂
Hair raising that the world is approaching the uncharted waters of AI - with SA politicians finding it difficult to comprehend the 2nd industrial revolution, basic economics or functional state administration.
@@harold6863 Stonehenge is wheel shaped. Of course they had wheels.
@@harold6863 And the Golden Gate Bridge. We stole it and brought it over on the Mayflower.
Or dig a water well…..
Slavoj Zizek asked an ANC politican what did she think about her country. She responded that even among the black population there was a nostalgia for the apartheid days.
I've heard this from locals about British rule in India and Sri Lanka....
A 5,000% increase in murders and being the world's rape capital will do that to you
And why do you think that is?
It's like how Iraq is ruled by foreign multinational companies now, yet all Iraqis miss Saddam. Same for Yugoslavia, East Germany, etc. It's really strange.
@@kel8026Sure you have
It’s not only South Africa. It’s the whole of subsaharan Africa, better known as Black Africa. Corruption, tribalism, racism, incompetence, lack of initiative, these are among other things, the main factors of the African disaster. Not one African country can compare to any European country when it comes to infraestructures, human affairs (hospitals, schools, etc.) no matter how rich the African country is (eg. Equatorial Guinea) or how poor the European country is (eg. Albania) the result is always the same. Africa is doomed because Africans do not admit their failures and rather blame colonialism, western interference or whatever comes to their minds. When I first visited South Africa in 1986, I couldn’t believe my eyes. I thought I was in some American city. Magnificent highways, Johannesburg’s city center a thriving cosmopolitan and clean tourist attraction (today it is a crime infested dirty slum), few European countries could boast what South Africa (apartheid regime) had. That was long ago. Today, under black majority rule, it is yet another black African country.
Well said. These leaders were n Africa are incompetent and opportunistic.
to be honest, SA is fast becoming a shithole. 25000 murders per year, 40% unemployment, thousands of teenage pregnancies ( below 14 years of age) rape capital of the world
You expect black Africans to get to where the Europeans got to within 30-60 years while y’all got there 1600 years after the collapse of the Roman Empire???
@kiuk_kiks you can't turn 75IQ Africans into 130IQ Europeans. Give Africa 10,000 years they don't give the intellectual capacity of Europeans and North Asians
@@kiuk_kiksno
One just expects themto at least maintain what got given.
Instead of stripping it all for scrap.😅
South Africa was doomed to fail since 1994 when Nelson Mandela was elected president because the ANC was filled with people who had no practical experience governing.
The ANC was not filled with businessman, or administrators, or experts in the field, it was filled with poetical activists and ideologues, who suddenly took a major role in actually deciding policy and holding complex administrative roles, which they were not prepared to do.
Even though Nelson Mandela is long gone, the ANC at the national level is still filled with activists rather than experts. I think this is a good explanation as to why public services have failed in the country.
What South Africa needs more than ever is for the next generation of educated citizens to take the reins of government. But the ANC has done a good job of quashing them, which is why all the top top young political talent is in other parties.
The sad thing is that this was more or less inevitable, Nelson Mandela had to become president in 1994 and political activist had to become the next governor. It won’t be until at least 2029 that the ANC finally loses power. Until then South Africa will continue to stagnate or backslide.
South Africa was ALWAYS doomed to fail, even if apartheid stayed with no sanctions, the black population would outbreed the whites.
The simpler answer is blacks are incapable of sustaining western civilization.
of course when the ANC falls it will be replaced with those guys who wear the red jumpsuits whose platform includes actual gene-o-cide
The ANC is full of communists, not activists
@@KingMinos316The politics of envy in a nutshell
If not for Colonialism Africa would still look like it did 10.000 years ago. Simple fact. Now they are just slowly returning to their real developmental level.
Not all of the species in the genus Homo are evolved to civilization.
Lol u funny
@@bluebandit4634 I'm glad you find truth amusing.
@@muresandani you're not telling the truth. If you want to explain i will.
@@đœwæþ go ahead
Watch and learn Western Europe. This is your future
Also UK.
@@vorpalinferno9711 Which is in Westen Europe.
Allow them to be in power and everything will go to crap really quick...
Truly, truly worrying. But the reasons might be different. It's just the absurd difference in social strata andctye associated wealth inequity in Europe. That can be tackled without evicting Europeans. However, in the UK I see the dangers of a surupticiously introduced caste system rapidly developing.
But, this is why Apartheid damages countries for generations. The inequality of education and opportunities is very hard to overcome quickly if ever.
The elephant in the room must remain unmentioned..
😂😂😂😂 is it the iq or white supremacy question?
Then mention it. What is it?
@@briopalumpus8676ANC and EFF racism coupled with their sub 80 IQ. Oh and btw the mythical so called White supremacy remains what it always was : a Media invented lie.
@briopalumpus8676 ANC and EFF racism coupled with their sub 80 IQ. Oh and btw the mythical so called White supremacy remains what it always was : a Media invented lie
@@nont18411Jews
South Africa is moving rapidly to Haiti status. Hmmm.
Haiti received it independence from France 200 years ago. How’s that going ?
France and the USA and all white-run countries ganged up against the slaves of Haiti (who freed themselves from slavery) to show others it is a bad idea to free yourself from slavery. They have punished Haiti from around 1800, and now they have returned to that idea. Whites never want a level playing field, they are always insisting on special terms. And now SA spoke up against genocide by Israel and some will be too happy to drag SA in the mud for that.
@@dantownsend4246france wanted to bring back slavery to Haiti
@@dantownsend4246 Haiti was fucked by the French , Americans , Canadians, Israelis, Just about everyone.. The only one case where other countries went out of their way to fuck Haiti for no reason at all.
Stop lying
As a dutch person I welcome every Afrikaner back to their motherland even after all this time.
There mother land is South Africa... they are Africans
There mother land is South Africa
As a homo sapien we welcome u back to the cradle of manking
Exactly. It's their last chance to get out with something
@@bradleynewall7541
No, it's the Netherlands. They are not 'Afrikaaners' they are Dutch settlers of Afrika.
South Africa = Rhodesia 2.0
Still missing a name change since Rhodesia is now known as Zimbabwe, a Robert Mugabe style dictator who led the country for decades and down the shitter even more with hyperinflation while South Africa didn’t have hyperinflation to the extent of Zimbabwe and they still had more than one leader in the decades since independence. And those are the two points I can immediately think of
@@jackakakreanxx5587 Zimbabwe = communist occupied Rhodesia
I doubt things can go that bad
@@thembastoep733 Murphy’s law. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong and in a place as chaotic as South Africa and the world for that matter, don’t be too shocked.
@@jackakakreanxx5587 I am telling if people resisted apartheid the way they did, we're tolerate a dictatoriship like that of Zimbabwe, we'll fight back like there's no tomorrow I'm telling you, we're not like most people in africa who fear their governments, here we put pressure
An Afrikaaner once told me an analogy of what South Africa is:
"ZA is like a latte macchiato: a large dark lower layer, then a small white upper layer, and the chocolatte sprinkles on top are the Politicians"
wut
This is supposed to be a purely economic analogy, not a Hirarchy of any kind
Can you believe it? Like, seriously, who'd have thought that folks who can't even handle running a freakin' company could somehow magically steer a whole dang industrial nation like South Africa? It's a disaster waiting to happen. South Africa's screwed, man.
Look for what Malema and friends sings.... What do you expect? All white people should leave and move to Europe so Malema and friends are happier, Elon musk alone is worth more than the entire country.
The levels of racism on here are out of control, the fact your comment has 150 upvotes, jesus christ.
As a South African, I am impressed with how much you have gotten right about our history and the different groups in the country. I appreciate it.
You nailed it
Exceptionally well researched. Couldn’t believe how many of the topics he hit correctly. Almost unheard of from someone who is not South African.
It's well know in America
@@robertpearce4316 it’s not unfortunately
We all know exactly why things have gone downhill.
You will get banned on many social media for saying why.
Yes, it is basic science. But you must be scientifically illiterate when convenient.
BRO, you just being racist.
@@LWoodGaming
Pattern recognition is racist.
@@jfkst1 Your pattern recognition is biased.
16:54 😂
Yet the Indian textbooks portray Gandhi as some anti-racist universalist.
Because Indian history books were written by gandhi faction communists/socialists who wanted to spread thier own propoganda
Yes, it always amazes me how Indians lecture westerners about racism and yet their caste system, pretty much in place till today, is based on racial discrimination and segregation.🙈 Get real guys!
He also hate hindus and love Islamist that's why he was against Israel too.
He is more known for his non violence movement. Most indians didn't even know he was in south africa. He was known for indian independence movement. And if they know about south africa they don't know he had racist views there
Indian see him as freedom fighters who free India from colonialism that's why same like uk see pm who is pure evil but see him as fight against another evil hitler.
They can see it, they can hear it and they can smell it, but when they touch it, it turns to dust.
Well said.
Africa is the only continent that screamed "we want our independence," got it, then turned around and blamed their "overlords" when they (the Africans) screwed up. Most other places can at least acknowledge some of the good colonialism brought, infrastructure, education, healthcare, religion, etc... except Africa and they debatably needed colonialism more than anywhere else on the planet.
To be fair local elites were especially interested in independence and based on what ended in Swiss Banks they kind of may consider themselves as kind of successful...
lol, you acting like Europe just left Africa alone, are we just going to ignore the Neo colonial projects countries like France have in Africa, the fact that France controls like 13 African countries currencies is enough to demolish your argument.
The fact I pull up like 50 declassified documents showing the US directly causing and funding rebellions, coups, wars is Africa is proof enough.
The blaming of the colonisers for their downfall which they created continues to be passed on to this day which is really sad and some africans just don't want to take responsibility and solve the mess their fellow citizens created.
Im not sure its proper to say they needed colonialism, maybe rather that they needed to open up and learn from outside world. Colonialism after all is about exploitation.
@@speggeri90Nothing is "needed" really. But if colonialism didn't happen, what do you think would happen instead. The answer is that European merchants would have just sold machine guns to whoever happened to live on the coastlines, and then they'd have conquered inland using those weapons. Europe would fundamentally change Africa either way.
As an English speaking White South African, I must commend you on a pretty accurate summation of the SA situation. Reality sometimes sucks, but there's no way of getting away from it.
Finally!! Someone who actually comments about how European society went through so much hardship to understand modern civilization, which the tribes had not and could not have been able to be easily integrated.
Thank you so much for getting it.
Also they got to learn by doing instead of having modernity appear ready made on their face usually on the shape of guns brought by boats
As a Rwandan, I think the problem in Sub-Sahara might be "inheriting the country" VS "building the country".
In Rwanda, we had to build the country from scratch after the Genocide, and there was an incentive to be competent(we had no natural resources). I think the Ethiopia and Botswana people also had to build their own institutions and infrastructure too.
So, like you said, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe and SA might not have the cultural experience of building up from scratch.
Edit: Wow! Thanks for the likes and support.
Not having natural resources is usually a bless more than anything, people build more functional societies and economies that are way more resilient and expect everyone to be responsible, adults don't expect gold from the sky and childrens don't build any functional society that last crysis.
@Mark-gd2ti Hahah that's true, but I also feel a bit jealous of the Emiratis' wealth. We are also landlocked, so everything is expensive (relative to the average salary here).
But we also have a good climate, a clean city and security. So there is much to be grateful for.
The thing that utterly amazes me about Rwanda is how the hell you Hutus and Tutsis are able to even talk to each other after that, let alone build together. There was never anything close to that in South Africa (though some blacks like Malema will have you believe otherwise), and I would say racial tensions are higher today than they ever were during apartheid because, as the video mentioned, whites get blamed for everything.
@dannyarcher6370 I'd say that there are 2 reasons:
1) We were never originally different tribes. Hutus and Tutsis were a class separation imposed by the Europeans to help them rule. We had clans, but we had the same culture and language.
2) Leadership. Our president has tried to make the country move forward, by force if necessary. Both allies and opposition have been chased out for trying to sow division. I remember last year some officials tried to reinstate an old clan, and there was a slew of firings and arrests.
Besides, we, the younger generation, grew up in a stable country and get along with each other. It's not the most "democratic" or perfect system, but it's working so far.
@@thunderwing2124 Well, good luck to you. I have given up on a positive future for SA. Blacks just can't seem to move on from the past or be grateful for inheriting the most advanced economy on the continent by far. This year's elections are going to be very dangerous indeed because they are not abandoning the ANC for forward-thinking parties. They're going to ANC splinters with even louder black nationalist parties. I mean, you've seen what they do to even their fellow Bantus from across the continent!
Last time I was this early Rhodesia was still around.
I found a old book printed in Rhodesia and I had no idea what I was looking at
@@baronvonjo1929whats it called?
Rhodesia was a baddie in my sophomore class
@@baronvonjo1929 reminds me of my maps some of them had Rhodesia and some of them had Zimbabwe quite confusing
Rhodesia is on life support thanks to the injection of Chinese currency and goods. That won’t be the case with South Africa.
Apartheid was a wall that protected civilization on both sides in South Africa.
I read the main purpose was to prevent the two major tribes from warring with each other.
@@7th_CAV_Trooperregardless of tribes blacks always just attack & kill each other.
I've seen that since a child. 62yrs later nothing has changed.
The same was said of segregation in America, believe it or not. The wealthy ruling southern Whites wanted to keep the poor Whites and Blacks from confronting each other.
@@7th_CAV_Trooper That is exactly correct, as the Rwandan Genocide is proof of.Once French control was gone in Rwanda the two biggest tribal groups immediately began chopping one another into bits with machetes.Dozens of similar cases all over Africa in dozens of African Nations, Tribe A hates Tribe B and even though they are all Black they set out to exterminate one another , this dates back to the slave trade era and before.
You can not be serious Apartheid was the reason this mess
I'm from a small eastern european country and i had relatives living there until a few years ago. I always wanted to visit but couldn't for various reasons . When i was finally able to they had to flee back to Europe after the big riots a few years ago and they think it's extremely unsafe now
Where's that country?
At least the money you saves is still with you
@@manyulgarprschprobably belarus
De Klerk is a traitor
@@manyulgarprsch ukraine probably or some other failed state like Latvia or Lithuania
My godfather is a Boer. He was a violin luthier and singer, now retired. He speaks Afrikaans, English, and Russian. He tried to teach my brother and I only the good parts about South Africa, because he'd get way too depressed talking about the bad
What would be the bad things? Awful treatment of black people? Violence? Or destruction of a country? I'm not attacking you or anything, I genuinely want to know.
@@sebsebski2829 no, the awful parts are the systematic decay of a country due to incompetent management
@@sebsebski2829 "Awful treatment of black people?" this is such a misleading narrative. ZA isn't the US. It's africa. There was no underground railroad so blacks could go north to Zimbabwe. It was more like modern day dubai where the locals get a far higher standard of living than the laborers coming from south asia. Still unfair and brutal, but it isn't at all like what happened in the states.
@@dixonhill1108 I'm not American.
@@sebsebski2829 Spiritually you are
There were black people during Apartheid who became millionaires.
They had a number of advantages over East Germans at the time (I had been to the DDR a number of times) a black person could walk into a Mercedes dealership and buy a car just like a white person while an East German had to wait 10+ years to get his Trabant. He could buy a mansion for a home, he was free to travel internationally on his South African passport, privilege's East Germans did not have.
Nelson Mandela went to university and became a lawyer under apartheid. I get that the ANC was opposed to what they saw as colonial education which is why they encouraged black people to boycott schools, but they could have set up their own native schooling system and countries like the Soviet Union would have jumped at the chance to help - but the ANC didn't do this and they'll still a trainwreck when it comes to doing things that keep a modern civilisation functioning.
@@damionkeeling3103 Yes, Mandela was an educated man, shows blacks were not stopped from going threw university.
From my observation, dictators (Stalin a good example) feared educated people, if you are well educated, you can think things threw, and see BS threw reasoning. Chaos is also a good tool to cause disruption and take control.
Lol blacks were not even free to travel within their own homeland. They had to carry special passes which regulated whether they could move out of native reserves or not. Even communist countries didn't have as extensive a system of internal passports. Great that blacks could buy Mercedes, except that most could not even afford them. Also your stat on there being more black millionaires during Apartheid is false and requires a citation.
One black millionaire doesn't reflect the reality of most black people in South Africa. I have a living uncle who lost an eye during the Sharpville massacre, I live with neighbors who were injected with unknown substances by the apartheid government. Their reality is not a far cry from the East Germans you speak of.
@@simphiwem9674 I noticed your spelling, you are American.
Tens of millions of black South Africans owned houses, not possible in the DDR.
I am a white Afrikaaner South African. Good job on the video. I appreciate people who actually do some research instead of making kneejerk reactions. Best of luck, sir.
I wish you peace - and hope you are not too tortured by the crimes of your ancestors.
@brooklyniron1999 how many hours of flying do you have?
Be proud of your forefathers! All groups have a mix of historical Good & Bad, should be considered in historical context. Afrikaners are incredible pioneers, farmers, & a noble people who should proudly preserve its culture. Best wishes on a long, healthy, & prosperous life!
"Africa Addio" is a great documentary that talks about what happens when "decolonization" happens in subsharan Africa.
Does it talk about how the first democratically elected leader of the Congo was overthrown by a Belgium company who wanted to keep exploiting the country?
does it mention all the coups in SSA as well? Does it mention France/UK/USA installing dictators that would do whatever was in line with Western interests? Even if it meant brutalizing local populations? Child labour? Or does it just give - in a myopic a view as possible what will sound good to white conservative ears?
@@christopher5846 You watched the move "The Siege of Jadotville".
No. It was a about the Cold War influence games. Better "our democracy" then being under Red influence.
@@anon2034'our democracy' ah, so a neoliberal military dictatorship. I like how honest most westerners are when it comes le "democratic" values they yap about all day.
I have not watched whatever that movie you mentioned is. I happen to not get my eduction and history from movies.
@@christopher5846 "so a neoliberal military dictatorship" I agree with your statement.
I was making the arguement that it wasn't mining interests but rather a political strugle between USA and USSR.
Mercenary Mike Hoare was financed by the CIA for example.
South Africa went from nuclear generated electricity to no electricity
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
@@Marchaund I often think it's unfair to have received the short end of the stick. None of us made ourselves. I did nothing to deserve being born white with the intelligence I have, just as a Bushman did nothing to be born a Bushman with an IQ of about 65 on average.
The wrong thing is to deny reality and to be a rabble rouser telling those less fortunate that it's somebody else's fault, and they should insist to receive more.
Just be thankful that SA ended its nuclear weapons program long ago. Be scary to think if they had them now. Imagine Haiti with nukes.
Sad to look back because SA had an incredible military and industrial capacity, it was a nation that built nukes with no help from either the Soviets or the US. Building a nuclear weapon from scratch is obviously extremely difficult. Sad that a nation with such ability has crumbled to nothing, but yes it’s good they no longer have any WMDs
did you know they co-developed with israel? then israel turned around participated in the destruction of the state to try and hide it. lmao.
They will just sell them for a quick buck.
I left SA with my family in 2017, so sad to see how quickly the Bantu destroyed a successful economy and society
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
Can you please explain to us how your extremely successful society was going to keep going if aparheid was not dismantled? I suppose you think the Blacks were just going to lie down and rot? Or were you planning on killing them all with no pushback whatsoever? Do tell us
Dont come back
@@abdallasa7077 to what, loadshedding, collapsing infrastructure, endemic corruption, world record crime statistics…thanks for the advice…
Successful economies and societies do not collapse like a house of cards.
Successful economies and societies evolve and adapt to changing conditions.
SA was the opposite of successful from the beginning: they prospered short term but are suffering long term.
Remember when SA was wealthy? Pepe remembers..
Before or after it collapsed?
You mean "remember when White people in SA were wealthy and Black people were confined to Bantustans?"
@@guilhermesavoya2366 now the whole country is turning into bantustans. 🤷
Only for white people and a small percentage of Indians and coloureds .The black people lived in huge poverty confined to certain areas.
@@fjtpersian6566 At least they had jobs, and industry was growing not shrinking. Eventually they could've been used in a sweatshop factory like the Chinese, but they'll never get the chance now.
Mandela ruined SA yet he’s treated like a god by the history books
He was a black communist, exactly what the West loved in the 80's and 90's
That's because we're so close to all the people who love him are writing about him, Give it a 100 years or so.
With out Mandela, or a figure like him, white South Africans would have had all their property confiscated at best and been massacred en masse at worst. Apartheid ZA was not sustainable, and Mandela made its deconstruction as peaceful as could reasonably have been hoped. That isn't to say he is above criticism, or that the ANC isn't responsible for the country's subsequent mismanagement, but I think its hard to argue that he wasn't crucial in preventing what could have been a humanitarian disaster and possibly genocide.
His wife was quite literally the devil. No, perhaps worse than the devil. Somehow, NO ONE mentions her.
@@recurrenTopologyUnderrated comment.
robert sepehr said that before europeans arrived in SA the tallest structures were built by termites
Brutal.
Hey, easy on the bugs
Wasps and ants are quite cunning architects :D
Iirc most of SA was completely empty before europeans and more black people arrived. So of course there werent ant big structures.
This, and Empire of Dust, should be shown in every school in the West. Unfortunately, they’re making the exact same mistake by inserting D E I in every institution
"It's all so tiresome"
The man just wanted some gravel.
You quickly see why Europeans said "FTS"
So glad people are revealing the bad state South Africa has become! From a once thriving first world country to a destroyed, over populated cesspool!
I always appreciate mention of overpopulation in discussions of human misery. It is a taboo subject that is rarely mentioned, and yet it is perhaps the ultimate cause of so much misery.
- no one could have predicted this would happen😊
@@Andre_XX - agree 100%. By and large the mother of all human misery.
@@peterwulff469 Yes, but nobody can mention it!
@@Andre_XX - we are living in the age of willed stupidity and stupidity.
The idea that direct redistribution is supposed to somehow lead to an uptick in quality of life is the key fallacy in terms of South Africa's downfall.
Taking resources directly away from the more affluent classes in any country is rarely going to improve things, a better approach is to force-multiply opportunity through proper policy, wise incentives, and a very gentle corrective touch on the markets to disentangle the biggest messes.
Instead the ANC ham-handed unrealistic and overreaching projects, siphoned all the tax money into graft, and repeatedly blamed history for the problems thus arising.
To cease favouring one class does not mean to take what it already has, and to do so will result in sour feelings at least, and a slippery slope at worst. Unfortunately, South Africa's far more worst than best case scenario.
If only they had followed the US example, they would end up with boom and bust every few years, no social services and crippling inequality.
Oh wait SA economy is already liberalised. Perhaps that's the problem.
100%.
@@christopher5846 Hey, college communist, daily reminder that USA people is paying 40%+ of their income in taxation due to liberal/Dems policies.
And the ANC is already beating the “land restitution without compensation” drum going into elections
@@christopher5846- They would do much better with the US model, but they just can’t get anything right. Socialism and its offshoots have brought nothing but pain, some people are just too dumb to see it
During Apartheid, when white kids went to school, their parents had to pay school fees and pay for their books.
Black kids did not have to pay, as the Apartheid government decided it was too much of a financial burden on the have nots and may end up causing them to not go to school. Getting blacks a school education was a benefit for the economy.
There was also a program to get blacks out of tin shacks and into proper structure homes, 99 year mortgage and 0% interest, financed by the state. I think that was a very good idea even though the whites who paid the taxes did not benefit from it. We had to try and uplift them from the squalor, try and make life better. The problem was the reproductive rate outstripped what the state could do.
You forgot to mention the part where blacks received inferior "Bantu education" that only trained them for menial labour and the Apartheid government spent 10 times more per child on white education than black education, with slightly smaller ratios for coloureds and Indians. Don't try to whitewash Apartheid.
I am a black young South African and if this is really true, then I was not aware of it. I'm interested in learning how our country functioned politically and economically during the Apartheid regime. Do you have any sources of information that you recommend I should check out? Every "intellectual" is so biased nowadays. I have a professor at UCT of all places subtly preaching socialism in our lectures. It's sad.
Facts...
Yes we were forced monthly to contribute to
" their " benefits & needs even if you could not afford to.
They just kept on destroying everything.
I remember clearly on TV them burning & trashing their school.
VERY NEXT DAY.... same fella whom spearheaded the chaos was on TV AGAIN ...
CRYING and we don't have schools for our people.
I was floored.
GREAT mindset GOING FORWARD 🤦♀️
you can't help those whom are NOT willing to help themselves.
It’s not like they had to reinvent the wheel, all they had to do was maintain it..... 🙄🙄
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
@@Marchaund yeah you're just racist murray and herstein proved nothing
A woman from Senegal has the correct answer for Africa (and a book), and it starts with stop playing the victim.Then you build businesses, but because Africa is so socialist and bureaucratic and its almost impossible, she wants to build small business areas in countries that are excluded from that.She says 2 countries have already said yes.
Sth Africa is not socialist. Where might I ask where is the socialism
@johnm7267 Agreed. Racist (on all sides), bureaucraric, corrupt? Absolutely. Socialist though...maybe nominally (as in they may call themselves that), but realistically there isn't much in terms of socialism, hardly any worker-owned cooperatives exist.
Most African countries have super high debt and loan payments so they tax the crap out of everyone and businesses. That's why people don't go start businesses there. You get almost no profit.
@@johnm7267There are multiples more people on welfare than people paying tax. Sounds pretty socialist to me. They're just too useless to have enough work for everyone.
"it took European civilizations centuries from dirt-floor shacks to light switches. Behind those advances stood revolutions in science, industry, religion, and social interaction. Those cultural prerequisites were invisible to many black South Africans, but they turned out to be essential."
I think this sums it up perfectly, and is true to many other African and Asian countries who want to take the shortcut to wealth and power. Yeah, some post-Soviet European countries too.
Very well put indeed
Asian countries are not taking a "shortcut" to wealth and power. Asia was an epicenter of innovation and civilization for years, and made advancements that Europe wouldn't match until industrial times in some cases. Exactly what asian countries have become "failed states" post-colonialism? The "cultural prequisites" had always been there.
@@arjund.4817 also many of the problems in the Asian countries have been inherited from the so called “European civilisation”
@@arjund.4817 Arguably countries like Burma, Pakistan and Afghanistan are part of this club.
@@arjund.4817😂😂😂Utter nonsense.
They did it to themselves.
Yet they continue to blame white people for their own failures.
Nope, they were pressured into it.
@@a-dutch-z7351By who? The same people every time.
J E W S
Rhymes with gru and also relies on mindles minions concerned about bananas.
100 years from now the history books on South Africa will simply read: “European colonists first settled on a permanent basis in 1652 and established a society based on a European model. However, unlike other settlements in America, Australia and New Zealand, the colonists always remained a minority and their government was eventually overthrown in 1994 by the majority of indigenous people. Subsequent to that transition, the country quickly regained the system of governance it had prior to colonisation. In such a system, tribal regional strongmen rule without accountability amassing large personal wealth with no tolerance for opposition. Consequently, development stalled and life expectancy, per capita income, and literacy levels all declined for the broader population.” Somewhere in there, you and I lived our lives. The rest is just detail.
In America the political and cultural leaders have been replacing the European descended population for fifty years now and the nation is disintegrating in perfect lockstep. The tiny (élite) at the top like for everyone else to be at one another's throats. In ten years European descended people will be a minority here.
The only thing that guarantees huge levels of immigration into Europe is the European governments facilitating it instead of preventing it. In particular Britain is an island that could very easily have secure borders and zero net inward migration, especially in this day and age of AI and drones.
Mass immigration has been part of British government policy for almost 3 decades now.
Exactly. If Russia was planning on invading Britain with a sea borne army, they sure as hell would find a way to stop them arriving. The truth is that the politicians want to grow the population, as it increases GDP and hides the fact that the UK economy has been either stagnant or contracting for the past several decades.
They're shipping them in en masse. I've seen people from the UK complain that when they went out after lockdowns, the entire town has changed into POC majority, as if the gov't brought them all in when no one was looking. 🤔
I feel bad for the brits in particular, their government is pushing the immigration while the natives have no real weapons to stop it. Atleast here in the US if SHTF you can fall back on militias and all that but in Britain not so much
It's the great replacement
When Europeans arrived in sub-Saharan Africa black Africans had not yet invented a written language, the wheel, the sail or the plow. Europeans developed sub-Saharan Africa towards an industrial economy. Since independence, every single African country has become poorer and more socially chaotic. That is just a fact. Personally, I oppose colonialism and favor Liberty via Natural Rights, free trade and free markets.
One can hardly view it negatively when it uplifts a local population from almost stone age horrifying customs and extreme poverty into something that looks very similar to the western civilization. Even with any possible faults, the pros are so overwhelming, there can be no doubt about advantages.
"Hey, we have no written language and we are cannibalizing our neighbors but at least we're independent" - is a perfect example of a pathetic excuse
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
@@Marchaund "Calls himself a Blackman" yet offers no proof! Just like he does on Stormfront where no one believes him either once he spouts his drivel! What a 🤡!
@@MarchaundBotswana is the exception actually, they have growing and stable economy
Whatever you say in the comments, don't ever discuss the root cause: cognitive differences which are 60-80% genetic. Any discussion of them will make your comment vanish.
Just about to cure cancer
Hear, hear. But it's not politically correct to mention the fact that certain groups, even though through no fault of their own, have lower IQs than other groups. It will upset them, and upsetting people is not politically correct. So, we pretend it isn't so.
Remember what happened in Zimbabwe. They went from the food basket of Africa to a food desert that teeters on the edge of starvation.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
I think the saying is "they went from the bread basket of Africa to the basket case of africa"
S.A.N.C.T.I.O.N.S.
Africa keeps on sustaining the West. If she dares stop, she's met with sanctions.
South Africa is fast following the path of Zimbabwe.
Haiti
@@hasinabegum1038learn some African history
Gandhi did not free India. A certain Austrian fellow waged war against their British oppressors for 6 years and bankrupted them. Post WWII, The British could not have held onto India even if they wanted to.
They couldnt have held even without ww2. India's independence movement had already picked up so much steam preww2 that independence was almost surely going to happen. The only question was how it would happen
If anything Gandhi's actions probably delayed India's independence by atleast 10-15 years.
@@Colin-ut6cm correction, they was gonna drop it no matter what. India was just a waste bin of resources, compared to what they got in return.
As India had nothing to offer then, stagnated, no need to improve, hot climate no need to worry.
@@savagegtalks5912 Britain probably still kicking themselves to this day not holding onto USA instead keeping India.
Nonsense they totally could’ve it just would’ve been a massive and undesired expense.
I was born in Argentina but grew up in SA , I now live in Uruguay, I grew up in a great time ,Apartied had ended but the country had not fallen due to corruption, I am lucky to have great memories and have SA culture but equal lucky to have left when I did in 2009
How do you like Uruguay? I hear its safe and the standard of living is good even by Western standards.
@@JamesDBlanc It's great , Truly Grateful to be here , It's safe (Especially outside of Montevideo), great beaches , Great beef 🍖 ,love Maté . It is expensive but think that is the price you pay for a good quality of life
@@JamesDBlanc It's not "safe" as people romanticize it. While it's mostly empty, 70% of the country intersects with the borders of Argentina and Brazil, those areas are quite dangerous as they have become a hotspot for narcos moving drugs due to crappy government policies and lack of border patrolling.
Did you and your brother own the Pizza shop in Johannesburg north ?
@@samuelseymour7850 hahaha nope , I am from Durban
Apartheid nostalgia is pretty disgusting, no matter how bad this government is... Its still miles better than being a second class citizen in the country of ones birth...
In every country that was once a British or European colony, as soon as they forced the colonists out, the countries turned to shit. India, South Africa, Haiti, Congo, etc. Too many to mention.
But not every. Singapore, Hong Kong. Depending on the genetics of locals.
@@zell863, Singapore maybe, but how is Hong Kong better now? I think most Hong Kongers would disagree. I know a lot of them.
India ? Talk about your country our country is doing well as of now
@@Avantika005 Seriously? Are you blind, deaf and dumb? India is one of the most corrupt countries on earth and has one of the highest poverty rates known to man. Not to mention the caste system, the enormous rates of rape, thievery, pestilence, poor education and graft.
Haiti wasn't a British colony, it used to be French. Also, Haiti had to deal with American-backed coup-de-état throughout the 20th century.
Funny how the racist guy from Invictus was right about the downfall of the country.
when I left South Africa in 1980, many people thought I was foolish to leave. Quote: "there are none so blind as those who will not see"
It was never your forefather's homeland. Good to know you're know living amid your kinsfolk.
@@TheJosman my forefathers lived in South Africa from 1656.
@@pgstdb Your forefathers lived in Europe since time immemorial until the mid-17th century. If you took a DNA test, it would highlight Europe as your homeland.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
They trashed it? Didn’t see that coming.
😂😅
He touched on this in the video, but I spent some time in South Africa, and the "are they racist?" question of the Afrikaaners was one thing that puzzled me. I heard them talk, and it's like they have no filter. They would say things that to my ears as an American, sounded shockingly racist. But they also were almost always kind in their interactions with the blacks and when they talked about their country going downhill, it was clear they were worried about the fates of all South Africans, not just the whites. Just an example of this kind of behavior, we went to a market where all the shop keepers were black and you had to haggle over the prices. Before we went in, my Afrikaaner friend told me that while I should negotiate the price down, don't push it because these people really needed the money and I could afford to let them have a little extra.
lol, it's because they are African as well. Non Western people have no filter in general. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are bad people.
Sounds like us non-city Australians
How did you understand the Language ?
@@user-eb7wv5wt3j They went back and forth between English and Afrikaans. And sometimes when they were speaking in Afrikaans and they'd all burst out laughing, my friend would explain what was being said.
You should do a video about Lebanon. Textbook demographic example of war, emigration, immigration. And different TFRs among different ethno-religious groups.
Lebanon is even in a more worst state .
Lebanon took many refugees in and paid the ultimate price in the end.
TRFs?
He’s right about his last point. If sub saharan africa were to develop and prosper, they wouldn’t emigrate to Europe and mess up our demographics
He's right about the vast majority of points he makes.
I think it'll happen regardless, Africa is witnessing huge climate problems, every year temperatures are on the rise, water percentage is getting lower and lower not to mention Deforestation and desertification
Correction - they wouldn't come over here and *balance* our demographics. Unless you have a genius idea to get western countries back to 2.0 TFR.
The mistake is having open borders in Europe and a big welfare state that supports foreigners. Immigration should be an internal decision and not dictated by outsiders like it was with many western countries under the influence of the USA. (The USA pressured Germany in the 60s to take turks, USA pressured many Eastern Europeans to embrace multiculturalism in the 90s to prepare for mass immigration in the coming decades).
@alexpotts6520 what benefits to Africans bring to civilisation
I'm a white South African born in 1949 and stuck here alone without a family who have emigrated. 😬 I'm too old and poor to leave, esp with the bad exchange rate due to the weak Rand. Thank you for a very balanced history and overview of our country
Ask your family to evacuate you before its too late!!! Its outright dangerous to be there for you now
@@herpederpe4320 UK won't let me in under their new rules, even if my son can afford to care for me or if I was a multi-millionaire or if I was dying! I have nowhere to go and at 75 I'm stuck here. Its amazing to me that a decent old lady with UK family can't get in but the UK govt are letting in "refugees" by the 1,000s; but thank you for your concern
As a South African I can say this is one of the most accurate and unbiased videos about South Africa. The biggest, but not the only, reason for the income inequality is the massively different cultures between the different groups. You also allude to it near the end.
culture is part of the problem but I think population growth is probably the biggest problem in many countries.
a family have a house they have 6 children in 20 years they need 5 more houses but does the productivity, GDP etc grew 5 times? at some point math leads to wars/famine and poverty.
it happens in India/Asia/Africa/SAmerica so its not race related
@@ixirion In the African context even overpopulation is a result of culture: The traditional African view is that number of children is your retirement planning. Yes, that is a pre-industrial belief, but that is the problem with (any) culture that doesn't adapt fast enough.
@@JohannY3 you can say that. you can say its also part of law system, education, religion etc. they all can force behaviours
@@ixirion Actually all those things also have an effect on culture, but in this case, it is as simple as traditions and beliefs from the past. It seems to me you are deliberately trying to make the issue nebulous.
@@JohannY3 I dont think so. If you think it trough that is the essence of the problem or at least major part of it.
think logicaly - issue - main reasons -. solutions. Culture is much broader concept but dont encomapas all reasons or most importantly all solutions. For example forced sterilization is not culture related solution, reducing the food will lead to death trough starvation, you can entact laws that are forced troug police like abortions after the second child etc. None of this is culture related
Being on Twitter during the events of July 2021 was quite an experience to say the least.
I've been told on two occasions, when just speaking on my phone in my local area, that I should "be careful what I say . . ." because my neighbourhood is now a "predominantly Muslim area".
How did that happen? And why are complete strangers listening in to my conversations?
It's very scary.
Where is this?
@@bigboineptune9567 I don't think I should say. I don't want the property values to crash. 😉
@@ulicadluga I mean what country/city
@@bigboineptune9567 Sorry, I can't say at the moment. I'll take the Fifth!
The apartheid regime was nothing like the communist totalitarian regimes. It was just authoritarian in a pragmatic and realistic sense.
The South African people will cheer when the ANC nightmare is over and Law and Order is restored.
we have a saying here regarding that :
Hope in one hand and sh*t in the other and see which fills up first
The Afrikaaners only fought the British because the Brits would not leave them alone. The Afrikaaners fled the British controlled Cape, then ... the Brits followed them. They wanted the gold that was discovered where the Afrikaaners settled. The Brits were also responsible for setting up the early foundations of Apartheid. Along with sending Afrikaaners to concentration camps in Sri Lanka / Ceylon. Best to see the Brits for what they are.
The British doomed white South Africans by persecuting the Boers. They should have given them a piece of land for their republic. By wanting it all they created hatred and division which eventually destroyed the country.
they were the only empire to have positive and negative. They absolutely are the reason for the end of the international slave trade.
What smart energetic people who built one of the largest empires ever? Laughable
@@kevinstevens2120 the Brits were anything but smart in South Africa, greedy is a better term. They could have let the Afrikaneers have their own piece of land for their republic, but instead they wanted everything for themselves and it backfired badly
The world likes to forget British concentration camps making believe that they are a Nazi invention. My ouma was herded into one at age 9 so I heard first hand what that was like
24:58 obsolete chart. Murder rates in El Salvador are down to US-esque levels since Bukele took power and fixed the gang problem using dictatorial methods. Meanwhile, Ecuadorean murder rates are massively up due to gang violence (not sure if they're top ten level though). BTW, please make an analysis of the Baltic states next! (I'm Latvian)
They had US levels of murder in 2022, they were way below the US in 2023. It now competes with Canada for the title of safest country in the western hemisphere. It's geniunely insane what bukele did
It's lower than the Us. Us is 4-6 per 100k in homicide rate. El Salvador has dropped at 2.4. It's officially the country with the lowest murder and crime rates in the Americas.
@@captainvanisher988 there are allegations that it's fudging the number, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's true because it's basically a police state. It needs to finish the crackdown and get the deficit under control. Gangs being destroyed will cause an economic boom.
@@captainvanisher988who knew arresting people for commiting crimes coyld be so good at keeping crime rates low? 😮
@@Aetherblade-z4o that and the fact that there is no common denominator (🥷🏾) in the country helps a lot too.
That’s why I moved to Europe from South Africa, as a white South African.
Serpentza (known for his China videos) has covered quite a lot with South Africa. I recommend people to check him out as a primary source.
I saw one video of his many years ago where he was complaining that the Chinese seemed to not accept him as Chinese despite living there for a while and assimilating. And I was like buddy you’re some western white boy of course they’re not gonna except you. You’re not Chinese no matter how much you “assimilate.” But maybe I’ll give him a second chance.
P.S. Obviously racism against any people is wrong, I just don’t have a high opinion of expats.
I know he has lived in china, I used to subscribe to him, but he seems like an anti china propagandist or something. I saw his new video about "murder season in china" and it's such a joke
@@crusader2112so what you're saying is racism against white people is ok. 🙄
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 No obviously not. I’m saying that he wasn’t Chinese no matter how hard he tries to assimilate. The Chinese seem to have an in group preference and honestly whites need to rediscover that in ourselves as well. Also, I just don’t have a high opinion of American expats. I find them kind of cringe.
@@fredrikchristmansson3700Yes
Let's face facts.. south african economy was built by white folks, from farming to industrials, to excellent roads.. then Zimbabwe, the white folks built farming background to mining, infrastructure and education.. in both instances the black took over, look at the current conditions... And go all out to see black communities across the African countries, i hate to admit this but we as blacks are incapable of ruling ourselves.. honestly.. Botswana is trying, considering the fact that they did everything by their own from scratch, without the involvement of a white man..
Why can't the Netherlands give boers Dutch citizenship already?
Because the Netherlands only wants to import non-Dutch speaking, non-Christian black people.
Why should they have to leave South Africa?
@@martychisnall
Because whites living there was always doomed to fail. Let the natives build up and destroy themselves. They don't want you in S.A.
Also ango South Africans should have gotten citizenship from the UK but sadly no they give it to anyone else.
We give far too many citizenships to people who let their countries be messed up. The Boers might have been an unlikable bunch, people that just settled to farm on uncultivated land are the least of problem or colonial heritage.
@@DenUitvreter i have made 2 comments. Both got deleted.
TFW you protested to end Apartheid because it’s ignorant and raaaaa-cist,but then you realize it actually was a rational policy with sound justification
Who know 'muh racism' was actually on the right...
Now lets do the Germany of the 30s :D
@@marccamp6376 Merely pointing out that after Apartheid was abolished South Africa has entered the downward spiral of so many other African countries in the post colonial era. Exactly what Apartheid was meant to stop, and precisely what happened when it was abolished
maybe you mention this is the end of the video, the Zulu are not native they invaded as much as the Brits did. They ended apartheid to hand the country over to another invader, that said the Khoi apparently have an ok relationship with them now after both going through aparthied
Oh, are only Zulu people in power? Are they the only ones who can vote? Or are you just mad they got equal rights to white people now?
They're native by this point. I think "natives" in any land are just the latest bunch of invaders occupying the land. Natives, countries, peoples...they all come and go as the millenia steadily march on.
Many of the Cape coloured feel discriminated against for not being black enough.
@@DenUitvreter How come, when they are beneficiaries of the same policies meant to address the historical injustices faced by all non-whites. Also, they make up the majority of the DA-governed Western Cape, so you cant blame the black man for their troubles.
@@nikosgreek352 Yes and no. As a Greek person you should know that the illegal immigrant from mainland Turkey to Northern Cyprus are not natives and if a union was ever to happen, they'd be deported en masse. That's just one example. Another example is how jews repopulated their ancestral lands. For someone to be considered a native they must have at least a few centuries of existence in the lands and be part of the culture of the region.
Hey man would love to see a video on the UK. I was born in 1994 and can barely recognise the country I grew up in. The UK is a very interesting case because we have very high immigration of low skill workers from Pakistan and Nigeria, whilst at the same time increasing emmigration of the native population to Australia, US and Dubai. Australia in particular is very popular and I know many people who have moved there.
Modern UK resembles Roman Britain. Fertility collapse and inviting in the Angles and Saxons. I’m sure that will end well.
Fatal lack of conscientiousness. It went below minimum levels required to sustain industrial civilization and so it succumbs back to what this society (I don't mean race, but culture and basic mind set) can sustain.
Two friends were starting up factories around the world including Africa. Both of them had seen this upfront at all levels of organization. Lazy European worker will still usually half-ass his job for some of the time, so his efficiency is not great but he will still do the bare minimum. Meanwhile in Subsaharan Africa majority will do absolutely nothing. Zero output unless directly supervised but where would you get diligent supervisors in a culture like that? The few that do something are still part of it. Like one of my friends gave a raise to a guy who did a good job over couple of days, next day a different man comes in his place. Now he expects to take raise amount for supplying his cousin who will do his job for previous salary.
South Africans can and did adopt "white" culture previously and a middle class of able black people was already forming. But since Mandela they're screwed just like the Afrikaaner. They can't impose standards, instead they are squeezed out by the activists and political clans.
Incredibly, incredibly true.
The difference in conscientious is such a perfect way to summarise the differences. The Europeans, evolved in cold regions. They had to extremely hard for a portion of the year, to get proper food reserves. Crops and animals were only available during warmer months. The Africans, on the other hand, had access to food all year round. They didn't have to develop that conscientious. They didn't have to do something thoroughly, or work in advance, because tomorrow would always turn out okay for them.
@@user-gz1nv6nw3q That naturalistic explanation would be compelling if it didn't outright contradict recorded history. People trying to set up factories in Germany during the early industrial revolution also complained about the workers being lazy and chronically late, with even odds of being drunk when they deigned to appear.
I have a different experience with my visits to industries in African countries, the African worker is usually abused and even underpaid despite having the qualifications. The African sees no need to work diligently for an abusive boss. Heck, if I was the one, I would do less than bare minimum if I was being abused like an African worker.
@@drno87 Except Western Europe became the most industrious economies for hundreds of years until world war gave all our wealth to America and take our place.
Am of Boer descent . You have summed it up very nicely. We are playing a long game here .400 years we will persevere and be here anothwr 400.
Why can’t the Boor form a political group to press for independence, getting the land from a small portion of South Africa, like Israel vs Arabs.
@@GG-un7hjAnd have the same problems?
You guys need to have more kids then. The average African family is popping them out like 4 per family.
Easier said than done. Living with your neighbors as equals after 400 years of mental apartheid is a challenge that you are yet to overcome.
This is so loaded. It is far FAR easier to design a country where 20% live off the backs of 80% of people than it is to design a country that works for everyone and corrects obvious past injustices. Based on the comments, critical thinking must not be taught in South Africa amongst the former ruling class.
Let me guess, critical thinking is when we agree with you?
Way back in 1989 a South African friend of mine explained the situation there. He was all for ending aparteid (he is white) and predicted it would come to an end in the near future - which it did 5 yrs later. But he was far more concerned about what would replace the system based on the ideology of the political activists who would ascend to power. The tragedy is S Africa has essentially become another aparteid state but w/out the prosperity of the former state.
No matter what anyone says: Herrenstein and Murray and Arthur de Gobineau were perfectly CORRECT. As a Garveyite, Sowellian, W.E.B. Duboisian, Booker T. Washingtonian thinking Black man I tell you it is a manifest truth: The Bell Curve (Herrenstein and Murray), The Essay on The Inequality of The Races (Gobineau) and The Moral and Intellectual Diversity of The Races (Gobineau) are perfectly indisputable. If the WOKE movement cares about truth these publications should be examined with a microscope and heeded. Not reading them will PROVE THEM CORRECT. NO APOLOGIES.
Well, the SA white ruling elites had consciously rejected the idea of integration when it was still time to do it (like the 1960s when black political movements were starting to emerge). As a result, the education and wealth gap between the whites and the blacks grew to an extent where the system became unsustainable. And then the apartheid pendulum swang.
Btw, Communism was very similar in its failure.
If you read about Mkhonto we sizwe's "intelligence service" branch and their activities with places such as Camp Quatro, you realize that Jacob Zuma is in fact the African version of Lavrenti Beria.
Shh it's a secret.
Neither blacks nor whites are the native race of South Africa. That would be the Khoisan tribes, who have been almost genocided out of existence by both the Dutch settlers and the Bantu migrants.
Khoi and San people are black Africans..
Old Apertheid curriculum still resonating
Bantu are native to the whole African continent, they are the first humans. All the other races are Bantu mxed with things like Neanderthal.
@@aem870 Africans (including the Bantu) have neaderthal genes. The problem here is that South African whites (Apertheid leaning ) delegitimize the indigeneship of Bantus in the country by claiming that the only native people were the Khoisan which is a fat lie!
Khoisans and Bantus are both indigenous to the the present borders of South Africa. And both groups were on the land long before whites arrived from Europe. This does not by anyway indicates that whites are not citizens or even "natives" of that country. But such dishonest narratives (comments) should be condemned.
@@raymondmordi7937 Majority of Bantu don't have Neanderthal DNA. The mixed people might but not the pure Bantu which is majority of the Bantu.
Interestingly enough, authoritarianism > anarchism comparison also applies to parenting. There are many, many studies showing that children with strict and even abusive parents do BETTER in life than those with indifferent parents. Ultimately people and societies need structure and even incompetent structure is better than none at all. And FWIW, authoritative parenting (which can be paralleled with liberal democracy) has been shown to produce the most successful children.
We have a lot of South African farm workers in NorthDakota. I’d welcome them all to immigrate here. Lots of Afrikaans spoken in my small town.
This is what u get when people criticize racism but not theft, which goes hand in hand with violence. It's culture.
You should cover Turkey and Iran next. Irans low TFR shows that even mandated traditionslism dosent work, and the collapse of the birthrates of ethnic Turks shows that even Islam is receptive to modernization.
No it doesn't show that.
It hasn't to do with only modernization, the ultra conservative UAE had a very low native birth rate
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 It does. The declining TFR of Turks shows that islamuc societies, beyond a certain level of development, are also gradually undermined by modernity, meaning that islam will end up defunct this century. (Turkey does not publish birth rates based on ethnicity. However, you can look at an ethnic map of the nation, a map of economic development and a map of regional birthrates to come to said vonclusion. Some regions are at below 1.2, as of 2022 almost no even rural turkish mayority province has sustainable birth rates)
Irans islamic theocracy standing on eggshells shows that traditionalism wont work in the long run even if enforced with authoritarian methods.
I'd argue that there's no religious imperative for Iranians and Turks to have more kids in a land that's already been Islamised.
As such, I don't think Islam will end up 'defunct' or anything similar. The religion seems to be making greater and greater inroads into the West and parts of Africa.
The problem with Iran and Turkey is islam itself. It's a destructive religion to its core, in order to exist it has to spread otherwise it dies down. Hence why they are invading the West as we speak. The entire history of islam was invading.
Mandated traditionalism funnily does work as long as the government has an actual grip/influence over the population. The Iran regime doesn't. It surprised me when I found out how many Iranians are actually secretly seculars/zoroastrians and highly dislike the regime.
Another issue is with the regime itself. It's a dysfunctional one.
Islam is certainly receptive to modernization. Feminism and modernity are two of the most infectious ideologies/lifestyles in recent history. It has permeated almost all societies and the result are plummeting birth rates. Now if we look at the very religious cohort, it seems like it's the only one working. Very religious people have more than a healthy birth rate and are also slowly rising in population.
From what I see, there will be a population collapse and if Christians play their cards well, they can take over society with 3-4 generations just like marxists did.