Marseille - The Greek City of Gaul
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- Join us as we learn about ancient Marseille and its greek origin!
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The History of the Peloponnesian War
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Strabo's Geographica
Pliny the Elder's Natural History
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It's fun to hear of Greek colonies far from home, almost like a tiny self contained world amid those around them.
When one considers that Greece has long been a seafaring nation, it makes sense.
@@TheGeoScholarven before the greeks the people of the levant settled in modern day Tunisia and made carthage, some say they went as far as modern day Spain.
It’s really interesting exploring these small remnant exclaves around the world and their stories. Wish history channels would do it more
Mediterranean coastline isn' t far from home for the Greeks. Besides Plato states that "the Greeks live like frogs around the pond". Far from home for a Greek would have been the Bactrian kingdom in present day Afghanistan.
@@beepboopbeepp there's even a saying ''wherever the greeks came, they found the fenicians.'' and yes of course they went to spain, it was the main destination for carthaginian colonists.
the Greeks were great city builders. i've always been curious why they could grow fantastic cities, but they couldn't grow Greek kingdoms. even Alexander's empire was short-lived and his generals ruled over non-Greeks. it's like the Greeks just couldn't quite expand beyond their cities.
We love France from Greece🇨🇵🥰🇬🇷
Likewise. Love Greece 🇨🇵♥️🇬🇷
I didn't realize that while visiting Marseille had Greek origin
That's amazing to hear
@@christophermichaelclarence6003 Nice, Monaco and Antibe as well. Their names were Nikea (Victory), Mono Eco (Isolated house) and Antipolis (Opposite to the town)
@@srfrg9707 You can add Olbia (Hyères) to the list!
The bonds between nowadays France and Greece are ancient. There is a trophy offered by the people from Massalia in Delphi. I dream to visit all the Greek key sites of the Aegean Bronze Age and classical Greece. Much love from France and Massalia.
@@TheFrenchscot Je ne savait pas que Hyères s'appelait Olbia avant. Ὄλβια la bienheureuse?
Another etymology for Marseille (Massalia)
Μασσαλία = μασ from verb Μάω -μάσσομαι mean searcing , strong desire . (from Μάω even the word --> maniac)
+ σαλία =,maritime coast , (σάλς = salt ,sea water)
Μασ + σαλία =Marsiglia= strong desired coast.
just learned something new, thanks bro
Unlikely? This is overthinking it
Hi from Marseille, my city, the most beautiful city in the world !
marseille, capitale du maghreb :D (ps, je ris. marseille c'est tres bien)
@Blabla bla parce qu'elle a deja ete composée ?
I think Massalia is probably my favorite Greek Colony City State, its just so unique compared to so many others, a close 2nd would be the Bosphorus Kingdom's Panticapaeum which is just as impressive, if not more so due to it's long lasting kingdom that lasted longer than the roman empire (if you count its client state status as a surviving kingdom).
Also isnt Marsielle the French name for it?
yes, its Massalia for greeks, Massilia for romans, then Marseille for frenchs
@@gatomu9908 yeah, not sure why someone would use that spelling for it when talking about the ancient greek colony.
The greek name is MASSALIA with an accent on the I . it will be MASSILIA under the romans after the siege by Julius Cesar in 49 BC
There is also Saint Tropez the ancient Athenopolis La Napoule - Neapolis Antibes-Antipolis Nice-Nikaia Monaco-Monaho Avignon-Aunaion
I just fineshed hiking all the Rhone river from Lyon until Marseille and then to Nice 😂😂 Excellent experience 😂
No other small country can compare with Greece in terms of impact on human benefit.
modern Greece has nothing to do with Ancient Greek, so talking about modern Greece having a great impact in the world, is nothing more than pathetic Greek nationalistic propaganda.
You are not the direct discendent of ancient Greece, your nation exist since 1800.
shut up@@Romeo.G
The map is slightly wrong, the city of Marseilles is just to the west of this area, which seems to be centered around the port and fishing town of Toulon (Telo Martius in roman times). The area shown here was indeed part of the area of influence of the Greeks who founded Massalia and they established many colonies and trading posts/port between Marseilles proper and Nice.
I love videos without regional advertisements. From a person with a psychological disability to youtube ❤
very good job
Nicely done
Love these videos, and the by gods IR is gorgeous!
Thank you!
Let's see how CK III will look.
@@alexandrub8786 Well, not as gorgeous.
Good video. I like the animation.
Even today Marseille looks more Greek than French
😂😂😂
Long live the Phokean City 🤍💙
I have recently found people in Marseille with a Hellenic ancestry related to me. They live in Marseille and i live in Melbourne, Australia after migrating from Egypt when i was a child. The world is not really that big, is it?
Egypt as Marseille were all colonies by the Greeks
@@nestormakepontos9700Greece as Egypt was all colony of Albania
@@Kosovar_Chicken which year?
@@Kosovar_ChickenQuit smoking albanian weed, it's full of pesticides.
@@nestormakepontos9700The year that never existed. 😂😀
Thanks so much for this, I've been researching Marseille but most is in French (obviously) and a little hard to follow. Do you have any sources for the late medieval period (1300-1460)?
Try Medieval France: An Encyclopedia. The primary researcher into this city in this period appears to be Daniel Lord Smail. He has some articles also in english.
@@jobvermeeren2542 Thanks, I have just checked my alumni university library and I can borrow the encyclopaedia as well as books by Smail.
Where did you get those maps?
both the 2D and the 3D are from a game called imperator rome, which is a strategy game about the hellenistic period of the ancient world.
Know How when are you going to another video about the Ancient World?, and when you do so, can you make the subject about the Greek Colonies in the Black Sea and their interactions with the Scythians and Sarmatians?
I am planning to do that soon, but for now I am working in a video about sicilly and then i will be doing one about phoenicia, the bosporan one should come after those!
Massalia 😢
I wonder if the spring still flows.
Μασσάλια Μασσάλια έχεις τα νότια παράλια ! - Massalias Massalias Massalias you have the south coast!
Did you get the animation from a game?
Imperator rome!
It's always been a pleasure, and a privilege, to invade this city in Total War: Rome2 😊
i make them my allies to have a foothold in the region.. of course i always choose a Greek city so i make all the other Greek cities my allies in order to have a foothold everywhere around the Mediterranean and Black sea (Syracuse, Cyrene, Salamis etc)
Fun fact: the “ first Reich” WAS Charlemagne’s rule
First Reich was the Holy Roman Empire, which included Charlemagne yes
Carthage rival for gallic trade.
Good video. You should do one on Estonia.
2:54 Egypt was part of Rome at that time?
According to some maps I saw, it was together with Mauretania a vassal
Egypt was a tributary of Rome, and the father of Cleopatra and Ptolemy had granted the Roman Senate the status of executor of his will, basically giving them the power in who the next pharoah would be (in effect making those pharoahs their puppet). Ptolemy was actually trying to honour Ceasar by giving him the head of Pompey Magnus, just showing how intertwined with Rome the late Ptolemaic Kingdom was.
No, Egypt didn't become part of Rome until 30bc. The map is too generic and shows Rome around it's height in the 2nd century. In 600bc when Massalia was founded Rome was still a kingdom and only a single city, though it had growing influence over the other Latin cities.
Did you say Salted Pork?
plss add subtitles
Ελλαδα Ελληνικη και κοσμος ΑΩ
When you're from Marseille and the city is supposedly the green area shown on the map, and that makes you cringe 😬😬😬😬😢😢😢 It's like tagging London in Southampton or Norwich 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Paul giammatti's great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather in the thumbnail
Marseilles was never under direct Nazi control. It was the Vichy French regime.
Defining the status of certain countries during that era is difficult. It was under nazi control (partially), and wasn't an independant country either. In addition, the southern coast of Vichy was occupied by the Wehrmacht after 1942 - it wasn't under Vichy french control for the vast majority of the war.
The Whole North of France was under Nazis.
While The South was still reamain freed
Capital of Maghreb and maybe the most dangerous city in France
Liar.
Deport them all..
How the hell did Persians sack it??
they sacked Φώκαια (Phocaea), the ancient city in Minor Asia, where Πυθέας (Pytheus), who established Μασσαλία (Massalia), was from. This is stated in the video. Persians were not in Gaul, as you misheard.
@@MikoCookieMiko ohh i see, terrible video editing
@@DrFeelgood1127 what that's how history narration works sometimes you have to go back and forth between cities to tell a story the coastlines clearly change after the transition and the landscape as well and he literally says Phocaea. tbh i also got confused when i saw it but only for a second xd
You showed a map of the holy roman empire stating it was the 3rd reich. I'm pretty sure that was the 2nd reich. Not Hitlers 3rd.
I think you meant BC and AD.
Why does it matter? You and I both knew what he meant.
@@ofallmyintention9496 They are shorter, mean the same thing, and will cause less confusion 1000 years from now when historians might begin to wonder why from 2012-2022 all date references changed for no good reason at all. Why don't we make stop signs yellow?
Marseille is now a unique arab colony in France. Some things never change
Surprised the Gauls cared about trade lol 😂 they must’ve been a lot more fancy by the time time Rome came along lessening resistance as apposed to northern Central Europeans
This is how rich Gauls were being buried around 530bc (70 years after the Greeks founded Marseille): upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Hochdorf_Chieftain%27s_Grave_reconstruction.jpg/1280px-Hochdorf_Chieftain%27s_Grave_reconstruction.jpg
The bacon/salted pork mentioned in the video as a trading item of Marseille came from the Gauls. They prepared it, loaded it onto river boats, and transported it down river to the Greeks. The community that created the grave above was a bit far away for that, they made their money mining salt in the mountains. That salt was then sold to those making salted pork for Greek and Roman markets.
The largest Greek bronze "cauldron" was found in a similar grave dating to around 500bc. The cauldron was used for holding wine at feasts and could hold 1100 litres, that's around 1466 bottles of wine.
Actually they weren't as barbarians as the Roman propaganda wanted to portray them.
*B.C.
Islam has taken the revenge of Marseille from Persians
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Great to see African societies being covered here
Sad state it has become. Illegal migrants have destroyed it
Colonisation has a bad name these days, but it has many positives. Europeans also did great work in Africa alongside the bad (as the Greeks did in Europe and Asia).
You cannot judge with your eyes 2600 year later
Colonisation has a total different meaning as it comes from Latin
In greek is called
AΠΟΙΚΙΑmeaning away from home finding a new land to settled because basically there were problems at home Like in this case the Persians had occupied Phokæa
Can you tell me few bad things the the greek AP ŒKIA Has done that otherwise according to your WOKE mind wouldn't have happened?
Marsielle was an trade city and is weird that in Albanian this name means bring and take!!
Celtic, Old Greek, and Albanian languages are all direct offshoots of the indo-european language. The language similarities aren't just a coincidence!
@@frankfrankfrankfrankfrank when the coicidence repeat for thousens of times it is not anymore coicidence. U dont have any idea how much they false the histoy make everthink greek
@@adrianlacazete6030 Albanians ☕
@@adrianlacazete6030 As a good albanian you are supposed to sell drugs, but I think that you are eating the merchandise…
@@excathedrax It was first attested to in the 15th century, which means it was the first verifiable point in which it was spoken distinctly. It's a direct descendant of Dardanian or Dacian-Moesian. Just like modern Greek is vastly different from ancient Greek. Language is an evolution, it doesn't just appear fully formed
Of course marseille is a Greek city ! Greeks build the best cities in the world the evidence is all over the world . Marseille real name is massallia
And now it's filled to the brim by persians
Before it was "filled to the brim by Persians", first it was filled to the brim by foreigners (Gauls and Franks) same thing with Iberia which was mostly a Canaanite-founded land (Phoenicians) and now it's filled to the brim by foreigners.
Too bad Marseille is now a Muslim town in eurabia
France needs better border security
Idk why you corrupted the word Europe to Eurabia, you don't need to do that, since the word "Europe" itself is semitic 😊 so the identity of those people is a Canaanite (Phoenician) word, and the early origin of Canaanites in the Southern Arabian peninsula. (By the way Canaanites/Phoenicians founded most of the important cities in Iberia and regions around, before those lands and cities were stolen by Roman and Germanic invaders, who were expelled by Arabs in the 8th century when they took back the lands if their cousins, and then lost it again to Germanic dynasties who kept it until today)
@@branis96 i don't care about semite cousins, take them all for yourself. Nique ta m, atay
and today it is an arab city :D
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According to Western studies themselves, The civilizations of pre-history of Europe was Neolithic, the Neolithic farmers were people from the Arabian peninsula, and modern Arabs have the most genetic similarities to the Neolithic farmers who created the cultures of pre-history Europe
The word Europe itself is semitic, and related to the Canaanite language, and the origin of Canaanites is the Southern Arabian peninsula
Talking about Canaanites (Phoenicians), they were the people who founded most of the important cities and civilization in Iberia and Southern Europe in general, before those cities and civilization were invaded and stolen by foreign Romans and Germanics
Read obvious history to teach ignorant arrogant rude people.
wow, a colony that isnt bri"ish
0:24 that guy looks like a Mexican.
you are far behind in comprehending physiognomy
it is an inhabitant of the Mediterranean. you thought that the people of southern Europe were blond, blue-eyed vikings.
hahahaha now it’s the Algerian City of Mohammed hahahahahhahahahahah
Marseille is a phenician name not greek
Marseille is French but lmao, Massalia is greek
Can garantee you Phoenicians werent exactly the dominant group in the area, although they most definitly traded there
@@erwannthietart3602Canaanites (Phoenicians) founded most of the important trade cities in Iberia and Southern Italy
Saying that they weren't the dominant people in the area proof that your knowledge of history is low.
@@branis96 and it shows you are utterly ignorant in Geographie, Iberia and Southern Italy (arguable on the latter since Greeks were the dominant one on the mainland, and Sicily was highly contested). Marseille is in SOUTHERN FRANCE/GALLIA NARBONENSIS, Massalia a Greek founded city was the one and only dominant power on its surrounding seas, not the entire Western mediteranean mind you but it was an undeniably powerfull Greek city-state in its area, the most the Phoenicians got in Massalia wouldve been its own area because they were the biggest trading partner thanks to Carthage. In Narbonensis Massalia dominated, not the Phoenicians
And how you prove that you said??
My friend Μασσαλία means the town who cranch salt it's difficult to said in English
Marseille Is Word of Albanian Language, Marseille meaning of the Word, in Albanian Marseille=Marr sjelli, in Inglish Marseille=Import Export, in Français Marseille=Importation D'exportation, in Greek Marseille=Exagogi eisagogi. City Is named After the Port, city was fuonded by the Albanian's.
NONSENSE
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You seriously in every video about ancient massalia trying to prove it was Albanian...lol what a loser
Yes, Albanians are… Greeks Italians French English and most importantly the first to reach the moon. Peace.
Massalia
British colony
Republic....Not Democracy....
A republic is a type of democracy. I do not know where this whole "Republic not a democracy." came from. What you are talking about is a direct democracy. One is representatives elected, to make rules, by the people the other is directly elected or rules imposed by the people.
@@Mohojo By Americans trying to sound smart.