The wonderful remarks about breath and spirit being the same thing put me in mind of a poem by Gerald Manley entitled the blessed Virgin compared to the air we breathe... "Wild air, world mothering air, nestling me everywhere..."
what an enjoyable introduction to such a deep thinker. I have the growing sense he was the Father of the Inklings - the impact of his thought seems to be emerging everywhere in the fiction of his friends. And I love the renewed meaning given to Odin's sacrifice and our current time - a necessary sacrifice that takes time, even if it blinds us in the short term.
Owen Barfield work needs to be made into Audiobooks. It will spread his work like never before, works about his works have to made into Audiobook form. It will change everything
I fear his works would be very hard to follow along for many people, as it would for me. I have to read every sentence many times over in his books to understand what he is getting at, and there is a lot of Greek and Latin and French thrown in to confuse me. I have listened to Mark Vernon's "A secret history of Christianity", which is a book about Barfields ideas also available in audiobook, which is great, and relatively easy to follow along with.
It’s done wonders for the circulation of Rudolf Steiner, it seems to have led to rebirth and resurgence even of Anthroposophy. Barfield’s essay, ‘Equity Between Man and Man’, is a treasure chest as well for honest interpersonal relations/trust
@@thatguyitsme7707 Sure. I was just pointing out that audiobook format doesn't seem to me be the best for consuming his original works. Anyway, since you mentioned Steiner. What is the deal with him? I see him referenced a lot by Barfield, but not really so much what he adds to the table. What is his insight? Or what topic is he great on?
Enlivening - I hope to meet up at some point. Confucious was once asked what he would do if he was in the reigns of power. (In his own tongue of course,) he said "I would redeem the dictionary'. The Wind What is the wind that blows all things yet never itself is seen? Some say its all just moving air but that's all their words have ever been Yet the wind that blows has ever been to know you must leap as a bird to the wind as one with the wind moving all things brian in a moment many years back
I am moved to invite you to look at what can be called 'Plasma Mythology' which is a development of - among other things - Velikovskian assertions that mythic record holds historical account of human experience - for which he was ridiculed and 'excommunicated', and the explorations from that of Electric Force in the Universe at a level currently accepted orthodoxy confines to the atomic, but which the emergence of plasma physics is unfolding to me and others as primary nature of Energetic expression - the realm of change as a total Communication - or non separation, rather than objects of forces and densities impacting each other - but to keep to my point - This opens a way to read and account for our 'starting place' in terms at least of a human self-consciousness that is denied primarily by the worldview of Uniformitarian gradualism - which in my shorthand is the religion of 'millions of years' projected backward (and often forwards) fas the idea that the world or Cosmos is essentially the same stretching back in our past - apart from some human influences and a few ice ages - as now. Which Barfield directly challenges even without external reflections such as I mention. For myself I have been opened to inspiration such as to come into the religious or spiritual appreciation through the back door in a sense - but could never understand - for example why the Bible has a God that raises and moves mountains - for example. Or why the gods were for the most part Planets and a zillion other things about our ancient past that we cannot read because in part yes we are looking AT and seeking explanation but also because their world was actually different. Our pre-historic human records are designated as mythic fable but internalised as archetypal patterns of actual experience that is also coincident with what we see as the sudden appearance of civilisations that were - for example city states with god-kings and priesthoods, and artisans capable of extraordinary works without apparently the technology to achieve it. But I am not here to persuade but only to point. Velikovsky saw a mankind in Amnesia in which trauma is suppressed and distantiated - and I can see this dissociation or alienation as a progressive process of developing abilities, consciousness and cultural development of a fundamentally split mind that progressively lost its awareness and connection to the Movement of Being - not least by all attempt to get it back, restore it or overcome perceived obstacles to its restoration. To the point of a negatively polarised identification in fear and threat as reality as war for which all must be then subverted to 'survive' as the sense of private possession and control - which is to mask in the forms of truth rather than let truth abide in us and through us in relational appreciation. Some may feel threatened by ideas that bring a different light on accepted interpretation but I do not see undermining of the true so much as its revelation in more interrelating reflections. Truth is written on our Hearts and not in things-in-themselves -and to listen there is to look and learn and receive of the Holy Spirit - which is nothing more than our 'right Mind in the sense of correcting error that moves to the restoring of our whole Mind Perrat's high energy plasma experiments and petraglyphs: viewzone.com/clovisart22.html This surely will bring you to wonder... safireproject.com/project/presentations.html Thunderbolts.info has various resources. The idea is broad and open and emergent - not nailed down - and opens to multidisciplinary perspectives I am fundamentally in a reintegrative 're-education'
The safire link was to first recommend one of the video presentations down the page: Dr. Michael Clarage talks about his work with SAFIRE from a more philosophical perspective - what an empiricist might ponder outside the lab. He offers some intriguing if not startling observations about the astronomical and the biological, the dead and the living universe.
(Strictly only for those who might be interested - in Hungarian > lég (air) ég (sky) lélegzet( breath) lélek (soul, ghost like in Holy Ghost) él (lives) élet (life) szél (wind) lény (a being)- all connected and the connection is still easily detectable) moreover: lényeg (the core, the most important thing) ......)
Absolutely ENLIGHTENING presentation ... much of your WORK, at excruciating cost to you, is a Blessing to me !!!
Marvellous insight. I was buzzing all through this profound presentation.
The wonderful remarks about breath and spirit being the same thing put me in mind of a poem by Gerald Manley entitled the blessed Virgin compared to the air we breathe... "Wild air, world mothering air, nestling me everywhere..."
This was an amazing talk! I wish it was on a podcast!
Wonderful
Lovely, greathearted, hopeful talk of the fundamental and its incisive role against the evils of our day.
what an enjoyable introduction to such a deep thinker. I have the growing sense he was the Father of the Inklings - the impact of his thought seems to be emerging everywhere in the fiction of his friends. And I love the renewed meaning given to Odin's sacrifice and our current time - a necessary sacrifice that takes time, even if it blinds us in the short term.
Wonderful! Brilliant!! Love it. Thank you.
Outstanding and inspiring. If only the text were available.
Wonderful! Brimming with fascinating points! I must re-watch this many times for sheer pleasure. Excellent. Many thanks. :)
Owen Barfield work needs to be made into Audiobooks. It will spread his work like never before, works about his works have to made into Audiobook form. It will change everything
I fear his works would be very hard to follow along for many people, as it would for me. I have to read every sentence many times over in his books to understand what he is getting at, and there is a lot of Greek and Latin and French thrown in to confuse me.
I have listened to Mark Vernon's "A secret history of Christianity", which is a book about Barfields ideas also available in audiobook, which is great, and relatively easy to follow along with.
It’s done wonders for the circulation of Rudolf Steiner, it seems to have led to rebirth and resurgence even of Anthroposophy. Barfield’s essay, ‘Equity Between Man and Man’, is a treasure chest as well for honest interpersonal relations/trust
@@MortenBendiksen without access to the original material, do people begin askew? People need to be able to use their minds.
@@thatguyitsme7707 Sure. I was just pointing out that audiobook format doesn't seem to me be the best for consuming his original works.
Anyway, since you mentioned Steiner. What is the deal with him? I see him referenced a lot by Barfield, but not really so much what he adds to the table. What is his insight? Or what topic is he great on?
This is Absolutely mind blowing I have never heard this idea before Owen Barfield has changed the way that I think about everything now.
An outstanding presentation on Barfield
Excellent. I really enjoyed this. Thank you!!!!
I LOVE THIS!
Excelent, thank you
Enlivening - I hope to meet up at some point.
Confucious was once asked what he would do if he was in the reigns of power.
(In his own tongue of course,) he said "I would redeem the dictionary'.
The Wind
What is the wind
that blows all things
yet never itself is seen?
Some say its all
just moving air
but that's all their words
have ever been
Yet the wind that blows
has ever been
to know
you must leap
as a bird
to the wind
as one
with the wind
moving
all
things
brian in a moment many years back
I am moved to invite you to look at what can be called 'Plasma Mythology' which is a development of - among other things - Velikovskian assertions that mythic record holds historical account of human experience - for which he was ridiculed and 'excommunicated', and the explorations from that of Electric Force in the Universe at a level currently accepted orthodoxy confines to the atomic, but which the emergence of plasma physics is unfolding to me and others as primary nature of Energetic expression - the realm of change as a total Communication - or non separation, rather than objects of forces and densities impacting each other - but to keep to my point - This opens a way to read and account for our 'starting place' in terms at least of a human self-consciousness that is denied primarily by the worldview of Uniformitarian gradualism - which in my shorthand is the religion of 'millions of years' projected backward (and often forwards) fas the idea that the world or Cosmos is essentially the same stretching back in our past - apart from some human influences and a few ice ages - as now. Which Barfield directly challenges even without external reflections such as I mention.
For myself I have been opened to inspiration such as to come into the religious or spiritual appreciation through the back door in a sense - but could never understand - for example why the Bible has a God that raises and moves mountains - for example. Or why the gods were for the most part Planets and a zillion other things about our ancient past that we cannot read because in part yes we are looking AT and seeking explanation but also because their world was actually different.
Our pre-historic human records are designated as mythic fable but internalised as archetypal patterns of actual experience that is also coincident with what we see as the sudden appearance of civilisations that were - for example city states with god-kings and priesthoods, and artisans capable of extraordinary works without apparently the technology to achieve it. But I am not here to persuade but only to point.
Velikovsky saw a mankind in Amnesia in which trauma is suppressed and distantiated - and I can see this dissociation or alienation as a progressive process of developing abilities, consciousness and cultural development of a fundamentally split mind that progressively lost its awareness and connection to the Movement of Being - not least by all attempt to get it back, restore it or overcome perceived obstacles to its restoration. To the point of a negatively polarised identification in fear and threat as reality as war for which all must be then subverted to 'survive' as the sense of private possession and control - which is to mask in the forms of truth rather than let truth abide in us and through us in relational appreciation.
Some may feel threatened by ideas that bring a different light on accepted interpretation but I do not see undermining of the true so much as its revelation in more interrelating reflections. Truth is written on our Hearts and not in things-in-themselves -and to listen there is to look and learn and receive of the Holy Spirit - which is nothing more than our 'right Mind in the sense of correcting error that moves to the restoring of our whole Mind
Perrat's high energy plasma experiments and petraglyphs:
viewzone.com/clovisart22.html
This surely will bring you to wonder...
safireproject.com/project/presentations.html
Thunderbolts.info has various resources.
The idea is broad and open and emergent - not nailed down - and opens to multidisciplinary perspectives
I am fundamentally in a reintegrative 're-education'
The safire link was to first recommend one of the video presentations down the page:
Dr. Michael Clarage talks about his work with SAFIRE from a more philosophical perspective - what an empiricist might ponder outside the lab.
He offers some intriguing if not startling observations about the astronomical and the biological, the dead and the living universe.
(Strictly only for those who might be interested - in Hungarian > lég (air) ég (sky) lélegzet( breath) lélek (soul, ghost like in Holy Ghost) él (lives) élet (life) szél (wind) lény (a being)- all connected and the connection is still easily detectable) moreover: lényeg (the core, the most important thing) ......)
The Hebrew word, "ruach," means both wind and breath.
Thank you! Can you give me the source for the quote about melting ice at the end of the talk?
In a word...WONDERFUL!
PS: Where are the young people in the room?
Speaks volumes, sadly.
The thin Grey Line? With this generation's passing, we will see the end of the poetic. Hope I'm dead wrong; but it's not looking good.
Tanto fumo e poco arrosto.