Ranking Every Baldur's Gate "Background" Commander | Which Background Commanders are the Best?
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Quick explanation of the tadpole thing:
The game Baldur's Gate 3 starts with characters on the nautiloid ship. All of them were captured by mind flayers and had tadpoles inserted into them. the tadpole is an important plot element and every playable character has one. WotC made all of the playable characters into cards so thats why they tadpole thing kept coming up :D.
Also on another note. The lore on some characters like Lae'zel is very sparse because their game (BG3) is still in early access and we haven't learned that much about them. Shadohearts past espeacially has been kept purposefully mysterious.
I’d love to see a video of all of these commanders with the BEST background they can be paired with. It would be pretty unique!
I'll be asking my playgroup if we can rule 0 Faceless One to say "etb you gain the initiative" to make initiative commanders work
That's a nice idea!
Honestly a great idea, a shame it didn't have it already
Orrrr rule zero Prismatic Piper to have “choose a background” and let it be Faceless One
I'm planning on trying to rule zero the initiative to say "Venture into the Dungeon" and under city to say "you cant enter this dungeon unless you have the initiative."
Same function, just less clunky with the existing dungeons.
28:30 - Worth mentioning the Background “Folk Hero” here imo. Gives a draw once per turn when you cast a creature that shares a type with commander, there are a good number of great rogues/wizards/clerics in Orzhov with flash
Seems like a really good pairing!
I like the idea of a deck build challenge of Burakos + Haunted One: All edgelords
I feel like some of these are a bit underrated for power? Mostly because I don't think you really *can* rate these as commanders without considering background pairs. Wilson, for example, is weak on his own, but if you pair him with Cultist of the Absolute you end up with one of the stronger combinations of the set for Voltron.
Also the white one which gives Double Strike and you can play a boggles deck with enchantress like Sythis, Sram and Kor Spiritdancer.
They'd have a 6x longer video if they paired it with all the colors of background
@@jackalcoyote8777 I think just pairing it with the best possible would do. The power ranking is supposed to be the ceiling isn't it? Cuz the floor is always 0, like Elf tribal Kess or Baral Voltron.
IIRC, some of the partners were really low. Rograkh is at 3 there but it's in quite a few CEDH decks, either by powering out "If you control a commander" spells and Mox Amber for 0, getting sacced to Tevesh Szat or Culling the Weak for value, or polymorphing it into a combo piece.
@@jackalcoyote8777 yeah but you can't say Wilson is bad when a double strike background exist in a commander with vigilance, reach, trample, can't be countered and ward 2 😂
"He was turned into a drider! Yay!"
"No, that's a bad thing"
"Is it? Don't they all worship Lolth?"
"No, he rescued her *from* Lolth, so he was turned into one as a punishment"
"Huh"
You've perfectly captured the essence of everyone encountering Lolth culture, either in setting or reading the lore. I'm halfway convinced that R.A. Salvatore wanted to see how much bullshit it would take for Ed Greenwood to finally say "No, that doesn't make sense". Joke's on him! Ed 'My self insert sleeps with the goddess of magic on the reg' has no filter or limit for bullshit.
And that's why Menzoberranzan is so utterly fucked up.
Thankfully DnD lore is endlessly customizable by the dm so you can just ignore the stupid parts.
I LOVE Lulu in DnD and even have a plushie of her! To clarify the lore a little bit (spoilers for the Descent into Avernus campaign book): Zariel was once a powerful angel who was so driven to destroy all devils and demons that she led an army of angels into Avenus, the first level of Hell. Lulu was her war elephant mount and closest companion. The battle ended in a bitter defeat, and Asmodeus (the lord of the Nine Hells) made a deal with Zariel to spare her life, corrupt her into becoming an archdevil, and giving her the plane of Avernus to rule over. Corrupting a powerful being of pure good such as Zariel was a bragging point for Asmodeus. Her hatred of demons drove her to led armies of devils against the hordes of demons. She was once a lawful good angel but is now an lawful evil devil. There was a small part of Zariel that sought redemption from her devilish form and spared Lulu, giving her a sword that could redeem her. Lulu faced her share of hardships (including losing her memories and powers thanks to Mahadi, the Rakdos commander in this set). She eventually guides the players through Avernus in hopes of recovering her memories and powers, finding the sword, and redeeming her old friend. There is actually a mechanic in game where if the players befriend Lulu and take time to really become close to her, she will regain her powers and memories of what happened. You definitely nailed her vibe as the happy-go-lucky idealist, but all she wants to for her friend to return to her former state. The campaign has multiple endings, and it is possible to fulfill Lulu's wishes and redeem Zariel, transforming her into her angelic form, or it is also possible for Zariel to grow further into the darkness, which drives Lulu mad (very sad). Its such a great story, and I look forward to building a Lulu deck!
This is so sad I feel for her!
if it suits you..you can pair her up with master chef and make revolt deck and see how it goes
- Faceless One, Prismatic Piper's relative twice removed
- Livaan, right into the 99 of Vadrik
- Halsin looks awesome for Raggadragga mana dork stomp, bear in mind that they will be 6/6 for 1 mana that they can tap for themselves. Makes me think of a super cheap alternative to Allosaurus Shepherd
- So excited for MOAR CLERICS! LOL
Yes, that's why they made it. Same reason as last time, the Basic commander to have your back if you fail the draft.
Love your content nerds! I watch it every day. This may be a obvious but I hope you review all the backgrounds as well!!
Baeloth can be paired with the Background that makes it a 10/10. Then you goad almost everything
That's what they said. That's raised by giants and they curve into one another.
Weren’t you guys at around 40k subscribers a few months ago. Almost doubled since than. You’re killing it! Good job 😎👍
I was going to compliment the hair color change on an earlier video, but I forgot. So, it looks nice, good job.
Wilson is actually a pretty scary commander if you pair it with the doublestrike background. I have a guy in my play group who fleshed out the deck and it definitely kills players.
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Cherries hair looking good btw
Yeah Gale is actually the best in my opinion. It goes so well with any other color, with red you can actually use Lighting Bolt, Leyline of the Blue and you use sorceries as instants, with black you can use all the mass drain spells, with white you have more removal then a Modern Yorion deck, with green you double the ramp on can trips. All of it so great!
I really like the idea of Durnan+Passionate archeologist. Durnana exiles and discounts big creatures and when I cast those creatures from exile the background is gonna blast someone for damage equal to that spells CMC. Gets good immediate value even if the spell gets countered
You 2 need to join a d&d group. Come on guys, get with the program.
Just started BG3 and, by accident, i've built one of my favoite decks of all time: Karlach, Fury of Avernus and Cultist of the Absolute. It just crushes people.
The first time i've played it we tried planechase for a change. First plane was the double damage one. From turn 5 on, Karlach took out at least one player per turn. Pretty short game and my opponents were shocked, that I could deal 32, 48, 64 commander damage a turn.
The upkeep sac-a-creature trigger isn't that bad in rb tbh. You've got lots of options of great and cheap token makers that you could put out before you even play your commander+background, plus you get a lot of aristocrats stuff to even profit from sac trigger.
This deck also goes nuts with attack triggers. Trigger elder brain three times a turn and let someone exile up to 21 cards from full hands is just insane. Karazikar goads the worst blockers and taps them, it also draws you cards. Yuri becoes a wincon if paired with krenko and remains in the game long enough. Add 16 to 64 red mana in your second or third main phase with Neheb, the Eternal? Check!
I really dont like playing rakdos for the most part, only got one more deck in that color combination (Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin with an exile theme). But this one is a blast and a lot of fun to play.
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Yooo you gave me a happy birthday on my birthday day!
Side note I think Joe's hair looks great, fantastic video guys
In Baldur's Gate 1 you make whatever character you want and play through. When they make a "cannon" character for the story later it is Abdel Adrian.
Joe Cherries looking fresh with that haircut!
Love your content nerds! I'll be updating my Volo UG deck to a Volo + Background deck now 😎 original Volo grabs too much hate, he'll be in the 99 lol.
Alora paired with a red background allows to play with sneak attack, so you can return that creature to your hand after sneaking it in. That sounds like fun
Love the new haircolor Joe!
Built a Volo deck on moxfield (Volo, Pokemon God) and it's my new favorite deck. It was a lot of fun searching for different creature types and using creature types to limit what I could and couldn't play. Right now the creatures in the deck cover 35 different types.
Kind of a journey to Godhood by flickering, bouncing and stealing.
It's like playing Pokemon but better because you're playing Commander instead. 👍
OMG get volo alter to be ash and the journal a pokedex!
@@NitpickingNerds I'm looking forward to saying "Ptermander, I choose you!" etc etc etc everytime I play a creature.
Pretty sure I'll get banned from my group but it'll be worth.
Erinis is awesome, especially paired with the Street Urchin background, acting as a sort of build your own Attrition...in GR. Incredibly unique playstyle for the color, and more then enough token creation in the color pair.
Surprised I didn't see this mentioned. It's similar to Kelsien the Plague but you don't have to play deathtouch enablers, plus it has a ramp / landfall angle. I'm kinda tempted to build it
I am blown away by Zellix's low placement! His intended background is Haunted One, AKA turning all your horrors into +2/+0, undying, big threats. Also Mesmeric Orb can get you several horrors every turn, combine that with Altar of the brood and any of the many horrors which also mill just by existing (consuming aberration, the one that mills 10 on attack trigger, Umbris in a way) then you're not just milling to death, you're milling for dozens of cards and then swinging for lethal with an army of 3/1 horrors!
Also I think it's very fun because as you say yourself if you could start with cards in the graveyard you would. It's a risk/reward style of gameplay to mill your opponents but give them great flashback, reanimation, dredge, you name it targets, and one that I think is very very fun.
Fun idea but it doesn't work that well, quoth the wiki: "Tokens can gain undying, and the ability will trigger if a token is put into a graveyard. However, like all tokens, it can't return to the battlefield and will cease to exist as a state-based action before the ability would go on the stack." They still gain the +2/+0 but undying does nothing
@@astuteanansi4935 The undying does nothing for the tokens but they're still a bunch of 3/1s, and your regular horrors still get the resilient part of undying, and it's horror tribal so there's plenty of benefit to go around.
Swinging with a dozen+ 3/1s does work well
The amount of legends in this set is insane.
Just want to say, Joe, your hair and beard are looking sharp 👌
Thank you so much
i don’t think i’ve seen anyone else mention, but Amber Gristle O’Maul actually IS on the Forgotten Realms Wiki, but her page is under her nickname Ambergris, and her full name doesn’t redirect for whatever reason. she’s a character from the same book series as Drizzt.
I was kinda hoping y'all would go through and recommend Backgrounds for each commander
Love the hair, cherries - you look terrific!!
Wizards should've did an article with lore snippets for those who aren't well versed on baldurs gate.
3:15 The Faceless One
4:15 Amber Gristle O'Maul
5:55 Gut, True Soul Zealot
7:45 Erinis, Gloom Stalker
8:55 Livaan, Cultist of Tiamat
9:55 Safana, Calimport Cutthroat
12:15 Vhal, Candlekeep Researcher
14:00 Halsin, Emerald Archdruid
15:50 Zellix, Sanity Flayer
17:45 Skanos Dragonheart
18:50 Viconia, Drow Apostate
21:00 Renari, Merchant of Marvels
22:30 Shadowheart, Dark Justiciar
24:10 Wilson, Refined Grizzly
25:35 Alora, Merry Thief
27:25 Burakos, Party Leader
29:00 Rasaad yn Rashir
32:20 Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer
35:00 Ganax, Astral Hunter
36:35 Wyll, Blade of Frontiers
38:40 Sivriss, Nightmare Speaker
40:25 Lulu, Loyal Hollyphant
42:15 Sarevok, Deathbringer
44:30 Imoen, Mystic Trickster
46:10 Durnan of the Yawning Portal
47:55 Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward
50:35 Gale, Waterdeep Prodigy
52:40 Lae'zel, Vlaakith's Champion
54:45 Jaheira, Friend of the Forest
56:45 Karlach, Fury of Avernus
58:50 Ellyn Harbreeze, Busybody
1:00:30 Volo, Itinerant Scholar
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@@ayllipkhieu8659 I thought about it, to take it in the list, but you are right, I apologize
@@giriel all good fam! Have a nice day
At 47:50 it is called that because he was one of the first to venture into the under mountain and come out alive and now there’s just this big pit (portal) in the middle of the bar that just goes there
I love your hair Joe, its amazing.
thank you so much
I browsed through the comments and didn’t see anyone mention it, so I guess I’ll do it: the winged cat mentioned in Gale’s backstory is called a tressym.
Joe sporting a fresher than wet paint haircut 🍻🤣
can you use faceless one as a background and then choose another background for 3 color decks?
I'm doing a deck with Sivriss when Liliana is like their "master" in a sense, training an apprentice to take value out of necromancy. Plenty of Strixhaven cards to add to the deck with lessons and I already have a bunch of Liliana Planeswalkers.
Jaheira is phenomenal in the 99. I picked her up to play in Lonis, Cryptozoologist as a redundant mana engine piece with Academy Manufactor; Urza, Lord High Artificer; and Inspiring Statuary. Super easy to rip through the deck with 48 creatures at a G discount just from having Lonis + Jaheira in play, plus she's even randomly an elf so I get a bit of value being able to use Wirewood Symbiote to protect her at activation speed. And if you find Academy Manufactor to pair with Jaheira and Lonis? Forget it.
You combine zellix with haunted one background and now all your horror tokens have 3/1 menace and undying. Maybe actually consider background pairings with background commanders.
The tokens won’t return with undying, tokens disappear when they leave the battlefield. But every other non token horror will return tho
With imoen id probably just run monarch, iniative, and the coveted jewel. Why not right?
For Zellix it pairs pretty well with altar of the brood
I'm new to MtG, bu does Raised By Giants not make Wilson, Refined Grizzly an amazing card? A 10/10 with vigilance, reach, trample, and ward 2 for eight mana that's guaranteed to be played multiple times?
I'm planning on turning Gut into an aristocrats commander with Agent of the Iron Throne with a pseudo treasure theme going on, since I can use Mahadi to create treasures, turn them into skeletons, and sacrifice them for aristocrats effects
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are you guys ranking the backgrounds in this? Their kinda commanders/they sit in the command zone just as these choose a background creatures do
Is Abdel/Animate Dead strong enough to be a thing? Seems kinda cool idk
Seems like a thing to us!
Ive seen a good cedh deck build around that, so yes
Fun fact for ganax, he doesn't specify nontoken so he works great with anything that makes dragon tokens.^^
Lathliss, Dragon Broodmother, Miirym from this same set, etc.
Get treasure for casting dragons and then get MORE treasures when your dragons make more dragons.^^
Also, since you'll be going tribal for this anyway, urza's incubator and mana echoes^^
Can you choose the faceless one as a background and then choose an actual background for technically a 3 commanders deck??
I just noticed that faceless one doesn’t even have a creature type
Halsin can be quite interesting depending on the cards you use. Manipulating tokens to become 4/4 can be really strong.
In the 99 Ziatora would most likely want to turn a treasure into a 4/4 bear and fling that to make three more treasure.
As a commander on could go the crazy route of e.g. using Greater Good which allow you to pay 1 and sacrifice any token to draw 4 then discard 3.
In Black one could profit from Bone Miser (and tutors) to empty the whole deck while selecting what ends in your graveyard and what stays in your hand. It is also worth mentioning that Pitiless Plunderer will allow you to get infinit death triggers if you manage to give hast to the bears. They stay treasures and could still tap for mana and be sacrificed which will give you a new treasure.
Giving haste might already be useful even without Pitiless Plunderer because in the end Halsin x Greater Good would like to search for mass reanimation while filling the graveyard with creatures.
From the general strategy the deck works best with Agent of the Iron Throne to give you a Blood artist like card in the command zone.
From a power level this should be about as good of a Plan as playing Slimefoot, Beledros. But certainly about better than actually playing e.g. Willowdusk. Especially with "Agent of the Iron Throne" already being close to Slimefoot
* Gut I think is meant to be played with Treasures/Clues.
* Erinis is *fantastic* with Scion of Halaster. She becomes the queen of Golgari ramp. Endlessly playing Evolving Wilds or Riveteer's Outlook means you often end up with double the lands your opponent has. If you can give her Thieves' Tools or something similar, you can guarantee she sticks around.
Joe bringing up the atrocities that were the Mortal Kombat films lol
Edit: Also, Vahl/Raised by giants is OP af
Have you ever considered going back to old sets and talking about your explanations for those commanderz
Thank you
Imoen is your childhood friend from the first Baldurs gate PC game. She is the first person to join your party. The issue with a lot of these characters including shadowheart or Lae'zel is the game isn't even out yet that they are in. So the players don't even know the lore. And finally. Khalid is from the first baludrs gate game which came out like 25 years ago. So hes definitely not named after the musician. However hes also an elf. So not a regular humans name either :P
Gale and scion of halstad dimir is very strong. Deck yourself out or simple work with your graveyard to cast spells. Lots of creatures to keep you safe while you amass your graveyard and hand for a plethora of cast options.
All right, time to being typically nerd! The yawning portal gets its name for a hole that leads to a dungeon, called undermount. At the center of the bar this whole is located, it is referred to as the yawning portal.
Cherries, your hair looks awesome!
Video on a Sunday!
A lot of these characters are from the OG Baldurs Gate games. Awesome to see them as magic cards. Will always remember "The Lord of Murder Shall Perish, and in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos will be sown from his passage. So sayeth the wise Alaundo!
I was really excited about Karlach (the red extra combat mythic) in Isshin, Two Heavens because her ability resolves twice but then I remembered it's the same issue that Aurelia the Warleader has that both untaps are tied to resolution of the ability. Unless you have vigilance not much will be attacking with the second extra combat, bummer
myriad, tho, is a whole different story in an Isshin deck
@@83erMagnum oh my God didn't even think about that
Amber gritsle is from drizzt series by Salvatore. Livaan is new for BG.
Immediately made a Karlach deck the moment I saw her!
Pretty much spot on for Sarevok's lore and a lot of decent story in Baldur's Gate 1
Lulu owns with the myriad enchantment if you draft them together. Dude in one of the drafts we did got it and won is pod with it lol. Cant remember the background he had.
Alora , Merry Thief with Raised by Giants background… 2 turns of attacking = win through commander damage. (Discounting backgrounds by thinking that they don’t make a difference isn’t giving these commanders their proper spots.)
Shadowheart is a major character in the new Baldurs gate game thats in early access right now. Kinda surprised that she only got a 2 for lore/coolness.
One thing you missed on shadowheart is you can sack tokens so a zombie is a draw 2 with no other cards
Beezy’s shirt is noticeably cool
Alora seems like an interesting Ninja commander with a black background
I actually laughed out loud when someone drafted me a karlach towards the middle of pack 2
I wish the previews to regular videos ratio was slightly higher in favor of regular videos
Abdel Adrian, Gorions Ward is amazing, I'd give him higher artwork because of his showcase art and higher coolness because hey canonical protagonist of the original saga, fought dragons, demiliches and demigods, an actual legend of the setting!
Can someone explain to me why a set called (and supposedly aimed toward the Commander format) "COMMANDER Legends" was designed so fucking heavily for Draft? I get the reason to open boxes, but that can be said for any set, right? Mtg's most popular format will sell boxes through correlation.
Well it is balanced for a draft experience. The set still has some really cool commander cards
@@NitpickingNerds Thanks for the reply, but then why call it Commander Legends? I feel a set should sell what it advertises right?
I run Baeloth Barrityl with Noble Heritage for immediate buffs and then run a Voltron Boros shell for commander damage kills
I feel like having your Krark’s Other Thumb in the command zone shouldn’t be discounted, that alone is a pretty powerful effect.. even if the dice rolling cards need to catch up a bit. There are a few good ones!
They're more saying that wyll's counter ability is weak
Play maskwood nexus, cast labman, tap volo to win for drawing 261 cards!
Such a unique way to say the word "card".
Is Joe's hair Purple or Blue-ish or is it just my eyes playing tricks on me. Either way man like the style.
They should have made it so any mono color commander could have a background in the command zone.
You can try it with your group and see what happens. I bet it's miserable, like giving every monocolored creature partnee
@@jackalcoyote8777 krenko...all i gotta say
Do I hear shade being thrown at Taranika, the best banding commander out there?
I will say though, Gale, Lae'zel, Wyll, Karlach, and Shadowheart are part of Baldur's Gate 3 which still isn't fully out, so these characters don't have their lore fully revealed just yet
I threw skanos in my gruul dragon tribal as a backup character. I thought he was cool enough for my level. I have his paper sketch art. Ganax and acolyte of bahamut are the commander for it.
Erinis is probably best with street urchin. Pay 1 and sacrifice a creature/artifact to kill any creature on the board is really strong. Play some threaten effects in the deck so you can sacrifice your opponents best creatures. Red lets you easily discard lands as well.
About halsin: he will most usually be played with inspiring leader, so he actally makes 6/6, which is not that bad after all.
Skanos can be paired with the blue background that makes him unblockable when attacking an opponent tied for most life. Blue lets you dump large dragons in the graveyard, and with a power doubling effect you should be able to deal 21 commander damage with a single attack.
Alora can be played as UB ninjitsu rogue commander. give her agent of shadow thieves as a background so she can always attack, and mix your decks with cheap creatures that have etb/ltb effects as well as ninjitsu creatures. Your unblocked creature gets bounced by ninjitsu, and the ninjitsu creature stays on the battlefield as it was not targeted by your commander.
Sivriss can also be played with threaten effects and guild artisan as a background. Steal the best creature on the board, attack the player tied for most life to get 2 treasures, later sacrifice the creature. Play the deck with large creatures and reanimation effects, especially spells with flashback. Your opponents have a hard time to choose. Let you mill your eldrazi just to bring them back with dread return or victimize, or let you play them with your treasures.
Big thumbs up for Ceremorphesis
I think you are sleeping on Erinis, Gloom Stalker. With Sword Coast Sailor, she is unblockable when attacking the opponent with the most life. Get back fetches, land creatures, strip mines, and all kinds of other nasty stuff. (DARK DEPTHS/THESPIAN STAGE) I am leaning towards creating this version with landfall effects. (Simic may be tough to find value though (ha) ) There are also black backgrounds that would let you go down a more "Gitroggy" path. She immediately stood out to me as a sleeper, but I guess to each their own. It must have been difficult to classify these commanders without factoring in the backgrounds that work well with them.
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Alora Merry thief seems to be a great commander for a ninja deck
There should be a list of your ranking in the description of the video.
I'm digging Joe's look
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you need to play against gut to appreciate it. i played against him in the prerelease and it was sick lol. those skeletons will crack your head.
Alora seems fun for red/blue threaten tribal
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Alora makes me think ninjas. Drawback is irrelevant if you're going to ninjutsu anyway, and she helps keep the ninja train rolling since even your creatures that could normally be blocked turn into ninjutsu enablers.
A reminder to people. Each of the commander precons has one "choose a background" commander and the intended background will be whatever one is in that deck.
They went over them. Obviously party isn't in the set.