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This video is basically a criticism of Ashoka, largely largely inspired from the works of Romila Thapar. But then it’s not like Romila Thapar is “the most unbiased” historian there is. 🤷🏻
Just being neutral and not appeasing into united hindu sentiment is not being biased. If your point of origin is no matter what united hindu bharat then nobody can come to a conclusion. Where you will force buddhists and jains look like students of hinduism.
Are you trying to say what is written in rock edicts is false?
I’ve read amply about Ashoka and no denying he did all those massacres even after his alleged conversion. But historians like Thapar take the good written about Ashoka with a pinch of salt (or a handful rather) while they take the negatives at face value. There is an undeniable bias: we don’t say that Alauddin Khilji built roads and tanks, but then any other ruler would have done the same. Historians appreciate the architectural legacies he left behind, same for any other ruler. But with Ashoka there is a deliberate attempt to just oppose the earlier narratives of him being generous. Pushyamitra Shunga ascended throne soon after the Mauryas, what is his legacy? We don’t see any milestone achievements there: so if Ashoka did leave behind an indelible achievement, it wouldn’t hurt to recognise it. And in the general course of development of the subcontinent, agriculture expanded and urbanisation spread after the Mauryan period, so post Mauryan period will definitely be more prosperous than the former. The international relations established by the Mauryas reaped dividends in the later centuries after their rule, when the converted Buddhist nations actively began seeking India for trade and cultural exchange, more so than older times. So the argument of Mauryan rule lacking prosperity is also very biased. And every ruler in history has walked a tightrope, even Akbar the Great known for his religious tolerance imposed and abolished Jiziya several times, and he even massacred Hindus during his siege of Chittor. That doesn’t mean I hate or love Akbar. He was a historical figure and I appreciate him only for his achievements. But some historians cannot do the same with Ashoka, simply because they feel Ashoka “the generous” represents a certain political narrative. No. There have been no ideal kings or queens anywhere in the past; but there certainly have been those who strived to attain and preach certain ideals of a utopian society, and that is the greatest legacy people like Ashoka leave behind.
@Roman Emperor Lucius Domitus Aurelianus Also Hindus always want to be victims of everything. What do nature do to life who victim play...make them prey to the predators!! You can't fight and protect your own people and grow some balls to invade others, you deserve to be uprooted and made forever indentured servants of your masters who are good invaders...Gangheis Khan is the father of modern humanity. 1 in 200 men carry his genes directly. This didn't happen cause he acted victim in life...
True basically for diminishing his status... A work done by leftist.. He certainly was Greatest.
Firstly Ashoka didn't renounce violence! He renounced war! There are Buddhist proofs itself which say he slaughtered Jain monks for clashing with Buddhists!Also Chandragupta maurya the grandfather of Ashoka was from a lower Varna ! Yet accepted as a king! The British and partly the society created the differences for which dharma can't be blamed!
Even, Ashoka was a practicing Buddhist during kalinga war....
Chandragupt Maurya is mentioned as 139th generation of Lord Krishna's family. Due to Ashoka The Maurya Empire have been collapsed after his death Just in 5 decades.
After becoming thin there will be no lower Varna or upper Varna
Yes,now everyone trying to be a historian.great
Buddhist sources aren't supported by any major scholars as all of them seem inconsistent . So your garbage comment has been debunked. Don't how did you get these many likes
Manuscript was introduced in 5th century. so caste system nothing to do with the mouryas.
To know about Ashoka you need to learn right from the beginning of Mauryas Dynasty, how Aacharya Chanakya and Chandragupt counter the Alexander invasion in Indian subcontinent . Their combined efforts make India as Akhand Bharatvarsh means United India. Then you know about the legacy Mauryas and Ashoka the great . One of the great emperors of all time.
Hey bro alexander isn't even mentioned in indian texts
@@abhishek9852 wtf
@@abhishek9852 wow.....
KING PORUS confronted Alaxander
Bro sikanadar is mentioned,@@abhishek9852
fun fact :- Ashoka comes from the same place where both Jainism and Buddhism emerged! That place, my home used to be a big power center in the past! Buddha was born in Nepal but got enlightened in Magadh, the state of Ashoka! It also was a great educational center where ancient astronomy, astrology and many other topics were taught. And the invent of "0" happened there too along with many many other advancements. But the place is in shackles now.
When I saw Romila Thapar as a reference point at the end I immediately understood why Ashoka was vilified to that extent. Had these been the Mughals, they would've come up as the most tolerant leaders whitewashing all their crimes.
Agreed.. Romulus Thapar is not a true historian
Yes
I stopped watching the video as soon as I saw your comment... Thanks man!
@@sangeetmc she is distordian
yes agreed
This story was the western version, they changed it completely to show that no Indian kings were good. To make us think that western colonialism is better. You should rewatch it from the indian channel.
Ye... Kuchh bhi
Romilla thapad is a communist so that's what history you will get.
Actually it was an Indian channel
This may have been much about the negatives but it's not fake.
Kings those days were crazy, we can never idolize anyone from the history. Everyone has done wrongs, killed innocents, married more than one woman etc etc
Every ruler or ruling country, which ruled India always had greed. They exploited us, but in some ways helped us too at the cost of that exploitation.
The ideal ruler only exists in our holy books, like Shri Ram. Even Arjun when on a rampage to get Shri Krishna's sister nd Shri Krishn himself allowed that. We can't take that for good, not atleast in today's time.
Just adopt nd preach nd follow the good from everywhere, for one aim.. Humanity.
This is actually a true history
Once a wise person said half knowledge is dangerous and this video is a perfect example of that
The logic in this video is just from western lense. It is more deeper than that. People are not fools to use the teachings of Ashoka and Chanakya (the greatest strategist, philosopher, economist and teacher). Its true that Ashoka was cruel in initial days but theguy needs to understand the details more neutrally.
ashoka and chanakya are from different generations
@@vg2812 you have no knowledge
@@Hanju566 my bad i didn't do my research but yea you don't know me so don't form opinions about me. you dont know how much knowledge I have, too sad you cant learn from me.
There was no concept of today's religion in those days.. It was basically like following the principles that best suited the times.
Even successors of Ashoka followed Jainism, and later some followed Sanatana dharma(Hinduism) too...
Basically as the religion was not a concept up until India was invaded by Persians... India was very open to different kinds of principles and were followed on their suitability with the society of that period.
His successors were buddhist not jain and buddhist were slaughtered by a brahmin named pushyamitra shung
@@anshumantripathi1479 correct 💯
@ this is where you are wrong. Hindus are Aryans foreigners
@@peanut5074 ignore arpan
@@anshumantripathi1479 Samprati, grand son of Ashoka, the emperor of Maurya.. Was a Jain...
One thing that’s not mentioned here is about the famous “Ashoka Stambh or the pillars” .. he built multiple pillars all over the world - with inscriptions on Buddha’s teachings. One of the proofs that he spread Buddhism as far as he could.
It is mentioned
84000 stupa, leni & vihars were built, many were covered up & turned into hindu temples...
I want to fulfill his dream
Ok
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Hindu...... To ... Bhudha next generation
Have you not watched the video?
Ashoka's Father didn't even meet Ashoka's mother in Kingdom, He met her in a jungle when she saved his life. She was a tribal women.. Ashoka learnt many of his fighting skills from that tribe, infact ashoka's knowledge about the jungles and how to survive there, gave him an upper hand in one on one combat with his brothers.. Bindusara never hated Ashoka, but he didn't want to break the rule of making elder son the next King, but his love towards Ashoka and his mother and respect for his guru "Chanakyaa" made him a victim of the anger of his children and other wives and relatives, they planned his mother..
This guy here is uttering a complete nonsense, maybe he studied a Britisher's book..
Chanakya was not guru of Ashoka 😢 it was chandragupta maurya .... And Ashok was very weak comparatively
@@GRIMRAJ yes he might be weak comperatively but we can't deny the fact that chanakya also his guru ....you can be a student of your father's teacher
Stop with the fairytale and tell us the real truth.
@@shefalimandal6023 any texts to back ur claims ???? As Ashoka has many rock edicts.... But I think Ashoka didnot consider him as guru cause if u see vishnugupta was Jain and performed santhara where as Ashoka's guru was buddhist upagupta .... Latter he become priyadarsi that's why
bro stop watching indian tv serials and start reading the history books
In ancient Bharat (india), we have different school of thoughts and Buddhism is a result of different school of thought , there is never been a concept of converting from Hinduism to Buddhism, it is a western concept . People follow religion or school of thoughts as per there wish .
and even Buddha was respected in Hinduism and considered as an incarnation of lord VISHNU .
If he is considered incarnation of vishnu, then why Hindus don't worship Lord Buddha??? 🧐
Only Hindus (specifically Brahmins) said that he is a reincarnation of Vishnu. It was to mold in the idea that Hinduism is inclusive and Buddhism is a part of it, which was actually an independent religion back then surpassing Hinduism on the Indian subcontinent.
THIS VIDEO IS A TOTAL NARRATIVE !!! Man this video is like 50% true and the rest just twisted to set a binary... I don't know what the sources are. Mughals or British !? And also Alexander The Great was what ? Great ? He completely neglected that Ashoka as well as Bindusara and the grand-father were 1- low caste and 2- trained and taught by the Legend Chanakya. I don't buy that Ashoka was a tyrant under the guidance of Chanakya. The history is deep and cannot be explained in 10 minutes.
No he is actually giving the right history leftist and anti hindu historians tried to show how before as a hindu he was so wiked cruel king but look how Buddhism is better how after being a Buddhist he became so good but in reality ashoka become Buddhist already before Kalinga war and he really changed or not is not clear
The quote at the end of the video is from Romilla Thapar... Now you know the source.
Ashoka was actually a tyrant
But as you say 50% of this video is not true and very much bias
I believe you
Chanakya taught all 3 ? If I am not wrong he might have died when Ashok was still baby!
I am always impressed by Achara's wisdom and her intuitions are mostly right.
you mean appeasement of your ego! She does it really well..
@@richcohen5936 😂
@@richcohen5936 first off all video is half baked story written by leftist historians who hates Hindus loves barbarians like mughals ottoman etc
2nd we don't want your pitty we want sorry what your British empire and Islamic empire did here
As Jaby is curious about facts
He has more potential than anyone else
He was not a practicing Bhuddist before the war with Kalinga but respected it as a branch of belief from Hinduism. He was a Hindu who followed his Grandfather's Legendary Guru Acharya Chanakya.
Buddhism and Sanatana Dharma are not in the same branch.. In fact ancient India is all about wars between carvakas, ajivaikyas, brahmins and Buddhists... Majorly between Brahmins and Buddhists. So, Buddhism was never a branch of Sanatana dharma at all.
@@harshithamuthyala2701 check the facts. Don't go about wars but religion. Ancient Indians built temples where Jains, Bhuddists and Hindus worshiped in peace. Jains and Bhuddist religions are branches of Hinduism.
@@sammasih5647 It depends on which king's reign you are speaking about. If it's Ashoka then yes.. He allowed other religions to practice their own religion. But not all ancient kings on this land are that way. In fact many of hindu/sanatana dharma kings never allowed too much of religious practise are casteists. We have very few great rulers like Shivaji maharaj.
@@harshithamuthyala2701 I'm not talking about which kings allowed the practice of different religions for co-existence. I am talking about the ethics of Jain, Buddhism which are direct branches of Sanatam Dharam (Hinduism). It is the Hindu Gurus, Pundits and Brahmin spiritual leaders knowing and acknowledging that these religions hold fundamental teachings which derive directly from Hinduism. Ashoka The Great came to know of this and thus widely supported all those religions at the time.
@@sammasih5647 no ... Sanatana Dharma's roots are in Varna system.. Whereas Buddhism doesn't have a varna system. Thus they are fundamentally different.
Caste system was basically where you deserve to belong according to your capabilities so if you are capable to be a Brahman and do the job you can become a Brahman but I guess after Britishers came or before it something went off and switching from your caste was restricted and was based on which caste family you were born in
Manusmriti be like : am i joke to you?
@@dailydose3927 bhagwat geeta and upnishad be like ;- i am joke to you 😂😂
Caste system was created by upper caste brahmin
Before the Britishers came, I think, WELL BEFORE. The system was well established before they arrived. The British looked askance at the caste system though they did not actively do anything to break it down as we might wish they had and possibly as THEY might have wished to do. They disliked the caste system and certainly did nothing to consolidate it.
This guy has personal hatred for Ashoka 😂.. not accurate and it is not called "converted", its called he choose "the different way" because budhism have come from hindusism. Former Indian kingdoms were more powerful than Alexander and no one dares to attack the Indian subcontinent because of It was the superpower of that time.
Buddhism never comes from Hindunism Both are two different things. And please Hindu is not an religion it's an culture. Your hindu religion is base on mythology and religion is base on natural laws and makeing simple mankind, your religion have millions of god we don't believe in concept of god's, and he is right because there is no scientific and archaeological evidence that tells us that your religion is in existence during Ashok period. Your all Vedas written by Bharaman, but Bharaman are not an Indian 2017 DNA reports says that.
@@Trevor00 tell me bro what is your doubts. 🙌🏻
@@sidhantkamble5191 😂😂😂😂😂😂Everyone think that his religion is great... Islamic people say their religion came first, Christians say their religion is only true religion, Hindus say they are oldest religion but ambedkarites be like nahii bhai hum bolenge buddhism sabka source hai... Har religion buddha ne banaya hai kyonki chota bhim bol ke gaya😂😂😂
@@corerealist9802 archeological surveys bolte hai Buddhism ke baare mein hawe mein baat nhi krte koi, Nalanda University takshshila University baat krte hai Buddhism ke baare mein Chinese traveller baat krte hai Buddhism ke baare mein H.G wells baat krte hai Buddhism ke baare mein saare hindus propaganda aur sirf apne kitabo Ko propagate krte rehte hai jabki Buddhism carved Kiya hai rocks pe seal pe even indus valley civilization mein STUPAS mile hai 🙄 mandir nhi teko Pali samjti hogi toh jaakr padhle stamba mein fhaiyan ne jaise Apne kitab mein likha waise hi saare structure mile this proofs it's the strongest source amongst all aur kya Chahiye BC tumko?? Bs Buddhism Ko khatam krne ki koshish krte hai chutiyas
@@mukulwalke2889 😂😂😂😂😂😂lol... Carl Sagan, Neil Bohr etc etc kai scientists hinduism ki tareef karte hain,kai scientists christianity ki tareef karte hai,kai philosphers islam pasand karte hai... That doesn't make any religion great... Lol...kai escavations mein hindu temples aaj bhi milte hai... Foreign mein kai escavations mein church ke remains milte hai....don't be a whining child who wants own toy to be the best....Top 3 religions in the world are Islam, christianity, hinduism... Buddhism is 4th.... 😂... Chinese travellers ki baat kar rahe ho chinese ne laat maar ke bhagaya buddhists ko tibet se lol chinta mat karo next dalai lama mao zedong ka follower hoga😝.. Aur tum hindu aur buddhist se hum athiests ki population jyada hai to phir hum great hai... 🤣Chota bhim bhi heaven/hell agar hai to wahan se tum log ko religion ke peeche ladte dekh ke rota hoga..
Did I just hear the video say he was a terrible terrible man?? He was one of the most efficient ruler of India. Infact his wife was a big supporter of Buddhism and so was his brother. His inclination to Buddhism simply didn’t happen seeing kalinga war. He treated the Buddhist leaders who came to his kingdom with at most respect and gave them lands to establish their religion just as he was respectful towards all religions. His hesitation to marry her wasn’t because of caste but because his ministers wanted him to marry a princes for the good of the kingdom. I have never heard anyone call king Ashoka , Ashoka the terrible. But when Kalinga war happened and he saw a mother with a child who gave him a piece of her mind saying the war was terrible. Jeez this is the most under researched video I have seen. He was called Ashoka the great not Ashoka the terrible. During his reign education, economy etc flourished. He was the most successful ruler after chadragupta Maurya in that dynasty.
चंड अशोक. Ashoka the terrible.
Well he was terrible
Just do a google search u will know about it
It is said that he was a sadistic ruler
@@vikata5499 see the thing is chand doesn't mean Terrible, rather it means the one who gets angry easily..so Don't go for always western perspective..
@@user-ij1dq9fr5i terrible means who is very upset। Common adjective used for characters like Ashok
Caste system wasn't introduced by Britishers... Is it said so by people who oppress people on the basis of caste 😅
First time watching this video myself, I've always heard and studied in classes about Ashoka the great, never once heard anything about Ashoka the terrible, it's interesting to watch and thanks for reacting to this unique video
Caste system was extremely fluid. caste system was based on skills not on birth originally as explain in bhagvad gita. But the it's nature changed in last 800 years and the final nail in the coffin was given by British who codified it means you belong to caste you are born into
That was the doing of Manusmriti...and what about elklavya
@@udaykhosla2616 What about Eklavya?Eklavya's father was an enemy King of Kuru Kingdom, and Dronacharya used to work for Kuru King, that's why he didn't wish the success of Eklavya, you can say Drona was wrong but not casteist.
Well am sorry but caste system did exist in the past and people were dicriminated on the basis of caste
Example:Karna in mahabharat
There were low castes in Mahabharat and ramayan too,that was also British doing?
The fact that we celebrate Shri Ram eating fruits from Sabri is celebrated, doesn't tell you she was considered low at that time? and Shri Ram was one of the few who didn't believe in low or high caste
@@udaykhosla2616 Eklavya belongs to adi-vasi or Sons of Land tribe. He was denied by dronacharya not because of cast or clan but because dronacharya has promised Arjun that he will make him the greatest Archer on earth. And as Eklavya has mastered archery by himself and has become more superior then Arjun that's when dronacharya get afraid by his talent and wanted his right hand thumb SO HE CAN PAVE Arjun way strong.
Itna toh janab vidhyarthi bhi jante haii who read Mahabharat in classes in 7-8
You should hear the Buddha story siddhartha became monk and give his emperor to his son he went to the forest and started maintaining peace alot people was jealous with him and wanna kill him but he always showed positivness and stay calm so everyone became his devotees and here this monk was Buddha he made his own ideology and people started follow him.
And Siddhartha gautam was a ruler and an Indian even he was hindu.
Lol kuch bhi
Ashoka was not Buddha
@@dakshtiwari3027 ashoka was not Buddha. Buddha was Siddhartha gautam. He was an Indian and hindu...
Hands Down To The Greatest ( in true meaning ) Emperor of All Time From Land Of Emeperors Magadh ( Bihar ) Jai Bhumihar Babhan 🚩💪🔥
Buddha rejected Hinduism
@@MostIgn0red I know but you've written that he was Buddha
You're lovely Achara! You're quite wise when it comes to patiently hearing things out and drawing inferences based on what you observe and think. I love the questions that Jaby asks too.
ASHOKA created the first Ambassadors in the world for countries to communicate.
Earlier caste(varnas) was based on the karma of people but gradually it becames a birth - based system and people are bound to flow there caste rules( Earlier interchangeable varna system exists ). Most people blam British (as the confused Indian varna system with European caste system and thought that both are similar ( which is not )) for dividing people they increases these differences so that they can ruler india easily as local are busy in fighting each other. British are also blamed for creating caste hatred (people's of one caste hating other).
Though things are changing but caste system still exists.
Says a Brahmin (Upper Caste)! Do you have proof (if so share links to books or links)? Caste system was like that even at the time of Ashoka there are texts describing untouchables.
Kuch bhi
@@chiluxr250 There's absolutely no proof for what you are saying. I agree that caste discrimination has been a historical fact and that it's pathetic, but no historical phenomenon has stayed static like that for a millenium. That is why even historians now accept that the caste system slowly developed from multiple social practices which coalesced around the 16th-17th century to form the caste system.
@@chiluxr250 bhai jake vedas wagera padhle jo caste system caste system me tb badli jb manusmriti aayi thi sale reservation lene wale padhai kar thoda aur manusmriti ke baad britishers ne use exploit kiya
@@shashankshekhar46 EXACTLY BC RESERVATION B CHAHIE AUR CASTE SYSTEM K LIE RONA B H BC DOGLE
3:21 Jaby you are exactly on point. Caste system existed in India from long time but it didn't lock people in perticular caste, people change there caste based on knowledge and skills they possessed. Mordern day caste system was made by Britishers to divide and rule Indian population.
There was nothing like Buddhism and Hinduism in that era. Both of them were just 2 different parts of Sanatan Dharma. Both of the people pray and study in the same temples and universities like Takshashila. Actually Hinduism was made into a religion after colonization to give people a proper identity for the time being.
I know there is a controversy regarding Ashoka but i can assure you tht this video was useless.
I appreciate Jaby for not just believing this video.
That is so not true... I don't understand why you people say britishers made caste system worse... It was worst from a long time...
@Harsh Rai yes it was called varn system but the rigidity of varna was always there from Manu's time...
@@swaggysharan5452 exactly it's rigidity was always there it was very rare that people shifted there caste tho they had to perform a yagna to do that which was only done by people who were wealthy enough to pay the brahmins
@@swaggysharan5452 Chandragupta Morya who started the morya dynasty was from lower caste or as per today's caste system. many kings where like that even Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj was also from OBC community. people don't care back in those time it was Britishers and some greedy Indian who made this worse. i bet you jot even 1% Hindus know about munu until recently.
I suggest everybody to read Ved Vyas Mahabharata. Or Mahabharata Unravelled by Ami Ganatra. There are lot of false narratives created by TV serials that Karna was discriminated or Suta is a "so called low caste" when in reality nothing like that existed in Mahabharata age of 5500 BCE
Karna is not lower caste even if you want to look into that regard. First of all, Suta is anybody who was born to Kshtriya Father and Brahmin Mother. Suta community were a very important community who would be katha-vachaks (meaning narrators of itihas/history or stories in yagnas and big events of kingdoms) warriors, even kings, charioteers (and yes that doesn't mean that's an untouchable driver role. Shri Krishna was charioteer to Arjuna himself. They would guide the warriors, and have confidence and guide them as their advisors). So not at all was Karna lower caste. In fact the word or concept of caste didn't even exist in 5000 BCE when Mahabharata happened. The word as mentioned is "varna" meaning recognition through your skillsets not by birth. Karna himself was made King of Angdesh which shows clearly nobody gave a damn about what family varna you belonged to. Other misconceptions which dismantle this whole Suta community as someone from "lower caste" are - Maharani Sudasana and Keechak were both from Suta community but one was queen of King Virat of Matysa desh and his brother major commander of army. Other big examples are Queen Satyavati who was Shantanu's wife. Even though she was from Fisherman's community, there was nothing as so called low caste or high caste! The whole Ved Vyas Mahabharata that has come to us is through Ugrasava Sauti (Sauti meaning belonging to Sut) - he was given a big role to narrate Janameya the whole history of his ancestors, such was the importance of every varna in ancient Hindu Bharatvarsh. If they are really so low castes like as depicted falsely in tv series why would Karna be declared king, why would Satyavati be Kuru queen, why would King Virat take Sudhasena and Keechak as Queen and commander of army? Why would Ugrasava Sauti get a chance to narrate the whole history of Kuru kingdom to Rishis and royal kingdom?? Our ancient Indian society was very logical, believed in Saraswati and skills and followed dharma.
The caste system is a creation of England, caste is not even a word in our revered scriptures, only mention of varna so that there is responsibility of different job roles done effectively in society according to skillsets (again not birth)
7:50 it was like a trend and most importantly a certain aspect/part of Hindu ethics and philosophy which is complex to understand when you access it collectively. That might be one reason Buddhism appealed men at that time during increasing invasions and mass killing in India. Because it revolve around how to live peacefully as it's priority.
Ashokas grandmother was Helena daughter of Alexander the great
not actually
@@kratantmaps do correct me sir
Is it celucus nicator i mistook him for
@@hkaayaakuu can you provide me a source Helena being mother of bindusar
Since I don't find any
@@kratantmaps she was not biological mother
@@hkaayaakuu yes brother
There is story about the Kalinga war .When the war happened and thousands died the river that flown near by , named as "Dayaa " turned red from the blood of the warriors . Upon sighting the vicious outcome of his hunger for Power made him realise his mistake.I am from Odisha btw which is also known as Kalinga or used to be known as.
Love from Pataliputra, Magadha 😉
He accepted Buddhism , 4 years earlier the Kalinga war, and the story of realisation is all made of, even there are some monuments written , how he warns Kalinga , for not getting in his way, or else can shed the blood one more time.
He never realized his mistakes, he kept killing till end of his life
Jai jagannath
@@user-ds1ym5qd3v we have taken revenge from Patliputra , so ya we can be friends 😒
Britishers and Mughals tried to change the whole system... In caste system it was written that a person is belong to the caste where his/her heart or his/her karma takes them....
Takshila was the first and biggest University of that time in the world.... It has almost 2500+ faculties....
exactly.. the cast system has been turned into this malicious attempt at segregating people and forcing them to stay in the same caste as their father was in...the original cast system allowed a person to choose whatever cast he wanted to belong in
@@Siddhx1 right.... In Bhagvad Gita, krishna stated that.... But they changed the whole thing to break the Hindu community.... So they called bhramins as the torturing class for shudras... The reality is all 4 classes are interconnected to each other
@@casual_GamerHQ EXACTLY AND WHATS EVEN MORE SAD IS PEOPLE LITERALLY HAVE NO IDEA OF THE ORIGINS OF THE CASTE SYSTEM LIKE WHAT IT AIMED TO DO ITS SO SAD
Nalanda too
Don't try to blame your forefathers wrong doings on Britishers..the caste system is there since long before
Btw ashoka accepted Buddhism before Kalinga war
At this point I don’t know what to believe. My textbook has a completely different Ashoka
1st of all, there may always be different versions of the very same story. 2nd, this guy, whoever he may be, seems to be influenced by HISTORIANS who are more of politically motivated (Romila Thapar). It's funny to mention Romila Thapar wrotes about Md Ghazni in high regards, saying he only came to India to spread his religion and looted india 15+ times because he had to, because he needed money to save his city back home from contemporary Ghaznavi rulers. A higher secondary level history student can see through Romila Thapar's way of historical agenda. Anything that suits her agenda, is a propaganda.
Not denying the fact that ashoka is much more than what's being taught, both in good and bad ways. But to see it from such HISTORIAN's eyes is not the right way to know about things, Jaby.
Abhijit Chavda goes into this matter as well. He may be a right choice for know about Ashoka's story for the beginners. Then you can move on to some other sources.
lol but tbh Abhijeet Chavda is not exactly unbiased
@@samarthtiwari3355 some of the points he makes, do make a lot of sense and the citations are from actual sources instead of interpretations so that's one good thing
Jaby ji there was a leader before Ashok. He was ancestor of Ashok.
Disciple of Chanakya: Chandragupt Maurya. It was them who created this Huge Mauryan Empire who was taken by Ashok as a monarchy. It was not Ashok who created it, Ashok fir rule it and kept it somewhat stable.
If you like then do check Disciple of Chanakya: Chandragupt Maurya.
Actually you're bit wrong here. Chandragupta didnt actually rule over the same land as ashoka, infact it was smaller as it was bindusara who expanded the empire more south and then Ashoka completed his kingdom by conquering kalinga. So Chandragupta who ruled over majority of the indian subcontinent, Bindusara then expanded the empire even more and then Ashoka completed his realm by conquering Kalinga. Bindusara was also a very strong leader but he doesn't get enough recognition which is obvious due to the stature of Chandragupta and Ashoka which is gigantic but he is only the leader other than Ashoka and chandragupta who was able to sustain akhand bharat and even expanded it.
The thing is I live near the lake in Kalinga where we took the last stand against Ashoka. Everyone participated after our capital "Sisupalgarh" got destroyed. Soldiers, Farmers, and the general population took the last stand with sickles, sticks, and whatnot. Kalinga received a crushing defeat and the lake turned red with the blood of innocent people. After 90 years of the war, the Kalinga king invaded and sacked Magadha (The capital of Ashoka's Kingdom) and ended the Mauryan empire.
Mauryan empire ended 45 years after the death of Ashoka or 75 years after Kalinga war as last emperor was killed by Puashyamitra sunga.
I don't know how anyone from Kalinga could kill anyone from already non existent empire after 90 years.
Bro, that's DAYA RIVER not any lake. Do you live near Dhauli? I doubt on yu as there's no lake. But daya river which flows through it.
India was Buddhism empire for more than 1000 years according to Amartya Sen ( Noble award)-
ChandraGupta Maurya was not Hinduism he was follower of Jainism.
Emperor Asoka was the first emperor who introduces- Animal rights, freedom of believes, build hospitals and schools for his subjects.
Maurya empire have 10 emperors Asoka was 3rd emperor of Maurya dynasty.
Push MITRA SUNGA (who killed millions of Buddhism ☸️) from India, assassinated Emperor BAHIDRATH, last emperor of maurya dynasty.
Caste system was there from Vedic period,it was at its peak during Gupta Empire (after mauryan empire) ,British used this to their advantage to divide and rule
@Choose Bliss tell me the difference if you know,Varna is based on what u do and caste is something that is by birth
British use divide and rule on religion basis but Hinduism itself was divided into 4 varnas way before
Caste word comes from Spain Casta. There is difference between caste and verna . caste system is myth created by Britishers and invaders they wants to divide indian society and collect taxes , gold .
Caste system was formed only after Manusmriti.
What suggests that caste a part of Hinduism ??
Before the British we had the Varna system, which classifies people based on the WORK they do. Teachers and spirituals were called brahmins, protectors were called Kshatriyas, traders were called Vaishyas and others but not less significant being shudras etc. It is very much possible to jump from one varna to other, based on the interests of the individual. For e.g. Ravana the main villain in Ramayana was supposed to be a brahmin but he turned out to be kshatriya and a rakshasa, Valmiki the author of Ramayana was from a Shudra varna, but turned into a Brahmin and wrote the Ramayana. Sage Vishwamitra was a kshatriya but transformed into a brahmana, and pursued spiritual life. And many more such examples.. British introduced the caste system, and `highlighted' the differences among people based on their colour and practices, to divide the people.
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@Takumi Usui Give me the name bro
During Gupta empire, Fa hien notes that untouchables live outside villages. Whenever they enter the town, they strike a piece of wood to announce their arrival so others may avoid them.
Katyayan, a smriti writer was the first to use the expression 'Asprasya' to denote untouchable.
@@animalmasti4991 caste system based on birth was finalized by Manusmriti. Before Manusmriti, caste was based on work.
2000 years of inequaity.what you say about it .its hindu upper casts responsible for caste system brutilty ,not the britishers.
That was not just caste system, all around the world, royal families don't want the king to marry non royals
Caste system was prevalent in India since very long. Basically, as per Manu Smriti, a milestone treatise in Hinduism described 4 classes of people viz. Brahmin (learners and teachers, Kshatriya (worriers - most kings were in this class), Vaishya (traders and farmers) and Shudra (service people like cleaners etc,). This classification then was purely based on work they did. Later it turned weird as the nature of work they did ascended hereditary and they started known as caste system..
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Firstly, ashoka really looks great that's why people call him ashoka priyadarshi and he killed his brother in self defence. They hate him and killed his mother and try to kill ashoka too for throne ...... Ashoka didn't kill him for throne...... And he is one of the greatest warrior and king of the world, he left his throne...... Because he killed too much people in kalinga battle and after wins he found he only won people dead body and he also found his lover was queen of kalinga so he realize he shouldn't attack there. He found himself guilty. then. he dicided to return their kingdom...... And never fight and kill anyone again after that he left everything he achived and practice of Baudhism and spread Baudhism everywhere.....
Believe me no one can beat him...... He is unbeatable king of history........... After kalinga battle he spread peace everywhere........... He was one of the king who believe in take part in battle. it's shows he was a great warrior..........
Looks like your source of information is ’Asoka’ the shahrukh khan starrer movie? Let me tell you, historical Bollywood movies are all historically inaccurate. Go read some books written by reliable historians.
Watch Abhijit chavda video on Ashoka
@@nishantsingh6679 itne bhi buree din nahii aaye ki uss chuytiye ki video dekhenge
😂😂😂😂 dude it's Bollywood story.
Ashoka was already a Buddhist before Kalinga war. He accepted Bodh minimum 2 years before Kalinga.
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Happy new year
History is written by winners. Can't say what is right or what is wrong, but all i can say is that.. we should learn from it. So that any thing negative is not repeated
Well
It's not true that ashoka had the biggest empire in Indian history. His empire is not even on the list of top 5 empires in India. On it shows that maurya empire was the largest, but in Indian scripures the chola empire was the largest because they ruled for almost 1500 years.
Keyword here in this whole video is "ROMILA THAPAR".
As soon as you see that name in any historical piece, you must know that that particular piece and it's authenticity should be dumped into garbage.
True..🤣🤣
Happy hindu new year.... Jaby and achara.... It's our new year....
Wasn't it yesterday?
It's Yugadi and it's today
@@nitishsaxena1372 it's today bro....
Eh, what?? Hindu new year? different parts of India have different new years dude. So There are multiple Hindu years, if you wanna say it like that :)
@@nitishsaxena1372 no it's today
Pick the positives and Drop the negatives. This is the only way when it comes to learning from people's personality.
Samrat Ashok was one of the greatest emperors of India who kept the "Akhand Bharat" alive at his best.
Even today even after we lost Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Bhutan, and many other lands which were a part of India, we carry the learnings of Ashok with us in multiple ways which governs us as "Indians" or "Bhartiya "
"Pick the positives and Drop the negatives." One can learn from both aspects. No need to cherrypick.
Really, can you drop the negatives ?
@@vallabhsonawale9570 Sometimes yes. I know that's tough
@@amoghverma3108 i mean I can name some horrible people ever lived right now , would you ignore theirs negatives?
@@vallabhsonawale9570 I'm talking about learning from people. Not knowing them...
If I have to learn something from a person, I'd try to learn the good aspects only.
There is a story well prevailed in our state Odisha( earlier Kalinga), the blood shed had turned the river Dayaa Red, as there was a massacre of over a lac of people.. many including woman, children were also slaughtered. And when Ashoka went religious , dropped weapons after war. There were still chills on people mentioning " dont mess with him, he just dropped the sword, but didnt forget how to use"
You can react to our Chandragupta Maurya, who created the mighty Empire.. These are our legends
He was already a Buddhist when the Kaling War took place.
What he presented is pretty accurate and supported by recent historical and archaeological findings.
Caste system (initially in the form of Varna system) is at least 2600 year old and have been being followed rigidly for at least 1700 years.
Caste system was not brought by Britishers. They just granted caste certificates to individuals which gave birth to a caste based political consciousness and identity called casteism.
Then how was india so properous if its principles were so downgraded
@@asphault0074 it was prosperous when the cast system wasn't followed rigidly movememt between the varna(or casts) was allowed
@@asphault0074 because of natural resources. A lot of trade happened in India.
In ancient time it was like that if you had done Phd (example) you will be classified as Pandit (Brahmin) if you got the education of trader you will be trader
It was just classifications of people in different sectors just like primary, secondary tertiary sector nowadays
After british came they just exploited it and introduced it by birth
@@asphault0074 Because it was organised. A well organised society.
I would recommend you all to do a discussion on such topics with Abhijit Chavda. He will surely make you understand about Indian history if you are really wanna look into this.
his some claims lack strong evidence
@@ssss-hd8ys anti nationalist spotted
True also it'll add one more dimension to this channel
Jaby overcomplicates things. And then gets confused himself.
Facts : Ashoka was following Buddhism even before kalinga..
4:22 Cast system is not invented by British. actually..
From Hindu timeline 3.8 million years has passed and cast system added just 5000-6000 thousand years ago in near lord Krishna era and he mentioned in Bhagwat Gita that religious leader misused their accountability😊
Thanks to raise this question jaby without fear of trolling you are honest guy😊🙏
There was no mention of caste system in bhagwat Gita and caste system existed but it was not followed radically of was British who made it to divide and rule india as they made aryan invasion story india has a complex system of gotras and varnas
My question is that if there was no mention of caste system in bhagwad Geeta then why people practiced or maybe practising caste system today?.....don't they know that God never told this?.... because followers of caste system are not least people they are in majority
@@Lucifer-jr5ye it is mentioned in manusmriti and it is just a book and a book's theory can be changed easily by time and that thing happened
@@harghartiranga2606 bro I'm talking to that upper person who claiming that no holy books make to practice discrimination.....so I'm asking him this question.....sorry if you think I'm asking you 😅
@@Lucifer-jr5ye first of all cast system don't spread hate , says u have to fallow it, gives permission to kill someone from another cast, want to spread discrimination people with self agenda's use it for their gains . It is us humans who fight with each other for our own interests.
U have to do some deep research to know better.
Caste didn't come into existence until the medieval centuries and modern caste system is a product of
Zamindari systems in the 1800s. The old casste/feudal system was based on work and was extremely different from this.
Caste system had always been there even in Mahabharata
Only difference was it was fluid and migration between castes was possible
Cast was always there. During Vedic period also ...during early Vedic period cast was described by work. Bt later Vedic period. It got downfall
Caste is always there brahmanwaadi just destroyed our India
@@rainbowvideos134 Exactly, thousands of years ago there was significant mixing: Around 1,900 years ago, the mixture largely stopped, as Indian society moved toward endogamy-the practice of avoiding intermarriage or close relationships between ethnic groups-which reached its most extreme form in the creation of the caste system. As one of the study’s authors told the Times of India, “the present-day structure of the caste system came into being only relatively recently in Indian history.”
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, then it's not a caste
Originally there were 4 categories in which people were identified as, based on the type of work they did or family they born in.
1. Brahmins - Priests
2. Kshatriyas - Warriors
3. Vaishyas - Merchants, crafts person and Farmers etc
4. Shudras - Servant and Laborer.
So, here they talk about is that king comes from Warrior Caste and maybe the woman was from Vaishyas or Shudras.
Everything that exists within Buddhism has existed and still exists in Hinduism(core is Dharma, coated with numerous philosophies to choose from). But at that time many sects were created that emphasized some Hindu practices while rejecting others.(Jains, carvakas, etc including atheistic & nihilistic, hedonistic sects were permitted under the umbrella) They would have assemblies discussing the reasons for choosing such and such practices and the party that was convinced of the other's arguments usually would "convert"(more like adopting) to that particular set of philosophies. The biggest difference between Hindus at the time and Buddhists was the former's emphasis on rituals and the latter's emphasis on renunciation!(Later Buddhists would slowly but steadily readopt a lot of rituals & become less austere) However some of them became more exclusivist as they became popular, hence the conflicts that arose. The fact that Buddhists and Jains still exists in India after 2600years + and shared temples & deities in south-east asia is proof that they never really were at odds.
Ashoka for the East is what Alexander for the West. He wasn't a merciless & ruthless ruler just as Genghis Khan but only an ambitious king who mended his ways after a war !! Greatest ever
You seem to not get the point bro
Genghis was not merciless yes he was ruthless but you have to be ruthless and decisive if u want to be a great conquer like him
@@hritoshi958 he & his mercenaries are mentioned as demons in many references & also He massacred around 90 Million people.
I'm not showing him in a bad light
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then how come he butchers jains for depicting a painting of buddha praying for mahaveer? according to lankan buddhist records, he beheaded people whoever insulted buddha and he was the first to send spies who insulted buddha in disguise and killed whoever agreed with that spy.
and on his rampant killings of blasphemers his soldiers killed his own cousin/brother then he left everything and became monk as he is famously known. it was not just after kalinga was but much later. and still his devanagari edict says 'dont think im a pacifist because i have taken the path of ahimsa. there is every possibility that i will do everything i have done in the past if the same mistake is repeated'[not verbatim].
these are the same reasons the lankan and burmese buddhists disowned him. hence out of anger he created his missionaries and sent them china, central asia, greece and arabia praising his beauty and kindness because he was described as cruel and ugly ruler in indian texts.
The caste system was non existent at that time, according to castes even Ashoka is was from lower caste , his grandfather chandragupta maurya became emperor despite being of lower caste.
Of course a "Sharma" is saying this!
CasTe sySteM wAS CreatED bY the engLiSH, lol go figure
Umm..what ? His grandfather Chandra Gupta become emperor because he won a war ! 😂 if he didn't he wouldn't be allowed to become a king because of his caste
Keep shutting your mistakes
Then Why Chandragupta maurya and Ashoka called Lower Cast King. According to you Caste system never exist in India🤣
So according to Sharmaji...Eklavya, Arjuna with dronacharya and mahabharat was also created by British.🤣
Odd compas documentary on the Chola kingdom was quite good though.
I can't stand this analysis at all..is just pure propaganda of diminishing and degrading Eastern or oriental history.... I'm saying after learning history for more than 13-15 years and reading many different sources of historiography...from Marxist to nationalist to secular to british imperialist historiography
Cast system was based on skills...but when British came to India they used the policy of DIVIDE AND RULE making the cast system as of now...
Nice theory to dilute your own ancestral mistakes. Caste was made a distinction by birth since Gupta Empire era, while the Britishers simply exploited it.
@@SKNayak-gl4xt read bhagawad geeta dude he is right cast system base on skill not birth but by time goes on its become by birth
it was by birth, and it was always rigid. Infact in late vedic period 1000 - 600 BC it was already rigid. no need to do a deep dive just revise 11th NCERT sic and Tamil Nadu Books
@@singhshobhit11 read geeta brother
@@singhshobhit11 Not true: Around 1,900 years ago, the mixture largely stopped, as Indian society moved toward endogamy-the practice of avoiding intermarriage or close relationships between ethnic groups-which reached its most extreme form in the creation of the caste system. As one of the study’s authors told the Times of India, “the present-day structure of the caste system came into being only relatively recently in Indian history.”
It's not caste system it's royel system , king not marry a ordinary woman , king marry only queen , Ashoka's mother 's father was not a king , so it's not follow royal system not caste system 😎
Dear Jaby, FYI… King Saul is different from Saul who got converted to Christianity and became St. Paul. King Saul was the first king of Israel. He was the predecessor of King David from whose lineage Jesus is said to have descended on earth. Both Mary (Jesus’ mother) & St. Joseph (Jesus’ foster father) were descendants of King David (King Saul’s successor). St. Paul, who persecuted the Christians when he was ‘Saul’ was born more than a thousand years after King Saul.
Well, you can say Ashoka was like India's Vladimir Putin and Kalinga was like Ukraine and Mauryan Empire was like Russia. 😂😂😂😂 .
Ashoka followed Buddhism, his father followed Hinduism form while his grandfather followed Jainism
Bindusar followed Ajivika
Asoka had actually converted to Buddhism before the Kalinga war.
Wtf! 😳
After actually when he saw the horrific scenes at the battle field and bodies of the people lying in puddles of blood then he gave up on this and embraced Buddhism
Anyways Buddhism Jainism and Sikhism are offsprings of Hinduism.
@@gautamshukla4433 No he was already a Buddhist.
@@gautamshukla4433 he has already converted to Buddhism before kalinga war
@@factshut9675 well you can be true but if it was the case really then buddhism tells you too embrace non violence, why he did it then?
BRO VIKRAMADITYA THE GREATEST KING IN THE EARLIEST AGE RULED WHOLE ASIA
Ashoka didn't ruled the largest swath of land in India the ruler who ruled largest swath of land is from the same dynasty as Ashoka and his name is Chakrabarty Samrath Vikramaditya Morya
Caste system was always there but there were many ways of looking at it, British exploited Manusmirti which was one branch of Hinduism, Buddhism can also be claimed to be a branch like manusmirti was, also we shouldn't forget that for a king to marry a hair dresser would have always been looked down upon
Around 1,900 years ago, the mixture largely stopped, as Indian society moved toward endogamy-the practice of avoiding intermarriage or close relationships between ethnic groups-which reached its most extreme form in the creation of the caste system. As one of the study’s authors told the Times of India, “the present-day structure of the caste system came into being only relatively recently in Indian history.”
I disagree, earlier there was Varna system, which was not oppressive.
But British introduced Caste system by exploiting Manusmriti to divide Indian and Rule. 🙏
‘Manusmriti’ was a book of the Gupta empire which barred movement in varna system for sometime because there were repeated ‘invasions’ of the huns. Krishna himself says it has nothing to do with ‘birth’ but ‘Guna’ (qualities)
Max Muller translator of manusmriti he was anti Hindu and when he research about indian history he was shock so he give Aryan theory to divide India.
There are still stone writings everywhere in India that tells his story of him having a change of heart and becoming a Buddhism. His son and daughter spreaded Buddhism to all theway to Japan. This video is very inaccurate and definitely reflects the creators own bias views. His stone writing are the proof that he indeed had a change of heart. He became from Chandal Ashok (evil ashoka) to the great Ashoka.
Pls provide links for those. That video wasn't inaccurate, he was a ruler doing ruler things. He killed people and even after converting. The stone writings can be manipulations. It doesn't make India any less of a country.
The great aspect started happening in the very later periods of his life after the reduction of civil conflicts. He promotes lots of trade with multiple countries and lead to spread of religion known as Buddhism.
@@harikiran4339 To be honest anything written by Romila Thapar is false or atleast not the whole truth.
Chandragupta was converted Jain and Ashoka become Bhuddist after Kalinga war.
Before the discovery of Iron pillers people were don't even knows about Mauryan Empire after that people started research and find writting on Greek or Chinese history.
According to you the Century old stone sculpture or Iron pillars are false but Story written by some illminded person is Truth.
You should actually read his edicts? he literally says he will punish the Adivasis and he was already a buddhist because his wife was a practising Buddhist and also from Shakya clan(Buddha's clan). some of his claims seem far-fetched though but overall the video is okay.
@@otomackena7610 Agreed for the fact but saying he done that cuz of their caste or faith is wrong. His family were followrs of different faiths. And saying he was okey with his father but not with others seems not right. For that time it's hard to understand the situation but may be he treats them outsiders like different clans or tribes is more believable.
@@ChoCoMoCo69 So because he quoted 'some' of Thapar's reports his video should be discredited?
the lady used the word ‘it is different philosophy’ - great, she is really intelligent.
There was categorisation according to once occupation called Varna means category and it was fluid system i.e. one can move from one category to another if one has those qualities and education. But Britishers deliberately translated ancient scriptures in such a way that it seemed as if these categories were affixed from birth itself as per their divide and rule policy
When you see quotation from "Romila Thapar".... You can say it's not "Propaganda" at all 😂😂😂....
I saw Romila Thapar's name and I knew it had to be this. Historians too are influenced by politics.. if u know u know.
The narrator is wrong.....Ashok referred to himself as Piyadasi, which means " one beloved by God" or slave to God.
why people always mix social class into caste when it comes to india
I don't know how accurate this is but history always have to be read and studied with a critical mind. To be honest, I feel it is moderately accurate
Nah
It's garbage
it's mid
Yes, it is quite accurate.
It's just biased. Far from accurate only dhruv tatti fanbois will call this accurate
@@cringekiller348 yes 😂🤣
It is laughable that ashoka was never like that 😂 in reality he was a king whom people loved he became king because of chadakya who is the guru of his father as well because of ashoka India stayed United.
History kabhi padha hai apne??
No ashoka was a very cruel king and he was responsible for his empire decline
Chanakya was dead probably before Ashoka was born.
That guy is literal dumbass. Nothing more . He's just a propagandist. Buddhist sources are inconsistent as well. If there are cruel accounts, then there are accounts against those cruel accounts as well, such as Ashoka building temples and giving donations to jains.
Ashoka the great still remains great. If only people stopped being one sided and looked at sources from both sides. This was a shitty video to look at jaby. You shouldn't have done that.
@@Shivathedestroyer04 Ji hai chacha Jaan 🙂
Video is not inaccurate…. Most modern Indians would agree with most of the points
Yes we read about Ashoka in textbooks while schooling in india
Ashoka was the greatest emperor of the History of India.... And Ashoka himself was shudra(lower cast), they were not khatriya, Chandra gupta maurya his grand Father was from lower cast as history tells us.
I am so proud to say that i am from Kalinga/utkal/odisha... The land of brave worriers and land of lord shree jaganath. The kalinga war was so vicious that common man and farmers had taken weapon to defend his homeland rather give up .
Ashok is descendent of Chandragupta Moreya and Chandragupta is low caste he maded king by Chanakya through his wisdom. So if Ashok is descendent of Chandragupta how his father upper caste or he cares about caste in marriage
If you see Romila Thapar's name as a historian, you scrutinise and almost reject the assertion.
3:44 So the fact is, Caste system was more like a designation of your occupation, but the Brits started classifying them as status, and use it to "divide-and-rule".
Every society does division of labour... Nothing new or divine about it... But you people did was division of labourers..
@@parthurmorgun6118 there should be a division in occupation. What's wrong in that?
Yup, that's the true story of Ashok. He was already a Buddhist when he fought the battle of Kalinga. And yes, the point about Ashok Pillars and stone tablets is also true. The ones at Kalinga had a pretty different story compared to the rest. Now you might think, why would the Indian state lionize this person so much. The answer is simple and complex. Ashok (the new changed version) fits well with Gandhi's philosophy of non-violence. Gandhi wanted to disband the army thereby giving this impression to the world that India (especially the majority Hindus) is peace loving and would never pick up guns (even if it's a life & death situation). They didn't want to prop-up the warrior Ashok. Otherwise a similarly successful king - Lalitaditya Mukhtapid was wiped out from our history. The Buddhist Ashok is the true hero, the Hindu/Jain Lalitaditya isn't. Now u might say this a stupid & communal argument. But sadly, Buddhism has been used in India as a tool to discredit Hinduism. And that's the reality. I know it sounds quite complex, but for us who have studied these things closely, it's not that complex.
You are wrong about Gandhi.
He advocated non violence in India because we were not capable of taking back our land in any other way.
Britishers had arms and ammunitions that far exceeded us.
Also , they controlled trade and money.
It was not possible for us to fight and win.
@@aayushsharma6755 gandhi advocated non violence to make sure British don't get attacked by indians. He was just a patron of non violence that he let hindus die in moplah m@ssacre and later send indian soldiers to die in world war
I always knew it was about hinduism vs Buddhism,why club Jain with hinduism
If there had been Jain king in the center of attention,you had done hindu vs Jain too
Did Liladitya rule the same Indian territory (which we live in)?
I can say the same you bring Liladitya just bcuz he is a Hindu
Ashok ruled the India we live know and no other king replicated the same(either they were invaders or didn't rule the whole of India)
And yeah again bring up Gandhi 🤦
If Gandhi really wanted some non-violence propganda,why he will bring up Ashoka(a King?),he can simply bring up Gautma,Kabir or even Mahavir,what foolish intrepetion is this 😂
@@kashutosh9132 Not defending OC,but u have to look at propaganda of 1950's to realise this. Most of his life,Gandhi was being depicted as the spiritual successor of The Budhha. Nehru was obsessed with being the second Ashoka and his PR of that time reflect that.
Pandit pushp mitra sungh save India by this TRAP he killed all Buddhist who try to takeover All india
I love you Jaby and Achara ❤️
The moment I saw Romila Thapad's quote at the end I just thrown this entire video into a garbage bin! I had this inclination the whole time listening to the narrative and the underlying objectives of this video that just got confirmed.
*This is a piece of crap!*
Exactly
It was actually accurate video, even bharadwaj aka true indology pointed out in his thread
well said jaby... and thats true..."HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY VICTORS"
You forgot one name:-VishnuGupta Chanakya🔥🔥
What ....? This video had not even drop of truth 💀
As Achara said cast system was always their but it was become more agressive during British time.. Due their devide and rule policy.. And The great Ashoka was born in our Home town it's a pride.. And forgive me if I write the wrong spelling of AK( it's safe) 😁😁
As far as I know history, most of the gruesome killings that Ashoka committed were after he became a Buddhist. Even the Kalinga war happened several years after he started following Buddhism..and yes his target were Hindus. more than 100,000 Hindus were killed.
Well caste system was there since before the england, england kind of subsidized it, like at that point of time it didnt matter but before england the brahmins dominated
There are so many people who don't know that Ashoka was already a Buddhist when the Kalinga war happened. Around 18,000 Jains were killed.
My god lots of historians in the comments with their own history 🤣
All great Historical figures in History have a bad side which won’t be published obviously. But Ashoka lived during BCE and all these might be taboo now but they were pretty common activities in the past. Nobody can deny his unparalleled rule during that era especially when the Persians and greeks were waiting to plunge into India. 🙏