'The Case Against Bryan Kohberger' | A Court TV Original Special
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- COURT TV SPECIAL - It's been 1 year since four University of Idaho students; Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen, and Kaylee Goncalves, were brutally stabbed to death in their beds. Police charged criminal justice major #BryanKohberger with the gruesome crime but does the evidence point to the sole suspect?
“The Case Against Bryan Kohberger” A #CourtTV Special explores the mounting evidence against the former Ph.D. student accused of the grisly murders of four University of Idaho students in that rocked the small town of Moscow, Idaho, ahead of his trial.
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TAINTING EVIDENCE
By JOHN F. KELLY and PHILLIP K. WEARNE
Inside the scandals at the FBI Crime Lab
Abstract
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I think you are bias asf. You spread propaganda, knowing people are followers who cannot think for themselves.
Guilty.
Guilty on all's the count
Kohberger had no reason to show up in the morning of the crime scene, none of his friends called him, texted him to go there, he didnt live on the campus or near the house where victims was murdered, kohberger had no friends in that area of the campus who would have known a murder took place for kohberger to go out of his way to show up to that house in the morning. He is the only one whos dna is on the knife sheath, he was the only one driving at night with his phone turned of and on again during the time of the murders, he is the only one who also drives the same white elantra that drove past that house on CCTV cameras and was circling the house
So maybe it was him 🤷🏼♀️ but maybe it wasn’t…
Also also, what would motivate a person to get up at 4am to transfer their own garbage wearing latex gloves and transferring some of it to multiple neighbors’ garbage bins…. ? Seriously who the F does that ?? 🤷🏾♀️ what would motivate anyone to do such an absurd thing ?
The circumstancial evidence is very compelling !
You made not one reasonable point out of that paragraph u wrote 😅😅 kohberger is innocent and it’s being proven literally in our faces and u sickos is mad the truth is coming out 😅😅😅😅
A good prosecutor could poke holes. The only thing sinking him is the sheath he left there, really. What an idiot to do that. Everyone makes mistakes, even if they plan it perfectly.
@@angel.samadhi and the knife sheath with his dna on it that was found at the crime scene how would you explain that?
What really devastates me is that Kaylee wasn't even living in Idaho anymore & was only back visiting. They were all on the brink of beginning their adult lives. So incredibly heartbreaking.
She had moved? Dropped out? Changed schools? Details? She was only 21, just turned 21 too, i think. Too young to graduate with a bachelor's, isn't it?
She was still living there. She had been home but went back early.
She came up to visit to show Maddie the car.😢
I had my bachelors degree at 20. But I am from Switzerland. I gradated high school at 17, did my bachelors (3 years here)....@@DJ-GASM
That's what kinda makes me think she was the target. I think those girls shared way too much on social media.
This whole case stuns me. The events of that night, the two surviving roommates, the late reporting of the crime… the accused who seems to have no motive. How someone could have so much rage to do this is beyond me- it was utterly brutal.
Go to Chris Mc Donagh
The Interview Room with his guest.
You may find your answer there.
Excellent video
Yeah, something is not coming to light here- it's not adding up.
I think he's a psychopath and wanted to get away with the perfect murder..
Do you know why its confusing its because that night they were all wasted. Maybe they already lay unconscious by what they always doing. The cops came to that house a lot. Their partying were till early hours. Guys came and went from this house all hours. That is why the room mates thought its just another guy in the house. Did you see the body cam videos of disturbances they caused. Ever week.
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I commend the parents, the two fathers that spoke! I'm a father of two daughters in their late 20's and early 30's and actually had endure my oldest being physically attacked and so close to being raped at her job a few years ago! It was all I could do not to end up in jail!!! Thank God I had a couple of people to talk me down! Including my daughters! So I can't imagine being in these families shoes!
I can say from one parent to another I sincerely sympathize with all of you!! I pray your strength to get through all of this! And that True Justice is served! 🙏
Peace 🕊️
@@merarigomez6835 Yes, she was able to identify the guy! My daughter was a med tech for a assisted living care facility!
He worked for the contractor doing work n the house!
She was able to get away, and she ran to her car and called me, and I left work to drive an hour to her! To be with her!
We called the cops and they were great with her, and her fiancee! They even brought a social worker that deals with those kind of things!
We went to court, and even his lawyer realized he was a BOS!
So, he had to pay for a sexual assault class, over 2 grand, and a restraining order, along with Jail time!
( Even though I went looking for him anyway! ) I was fit to be tied!
So was her fiancee!
But thankfully it worked out the way it did! Bc, I most likely would still be locked up if I would have found him!!
This is another reason it's really hard to watch stories like this one! No woman deserves to be assaulted ever!
Peace 🕊️
My prayers are with you brother I hope your daughter is okay and my prayers are with her as well❤
@@merarigomez6835wtf is a girl with " a low social value"? A value according to who? You say " a r@pist makes a mistake"?? NO person deserves to be r@ped. It is NEVER ok under ANY circumstance to sexually assault anyone.
I have 5 daughters and man just reading this got my blood boiling and we all like to think what we would want to do if something like this happens . I’m so sorry that became your reality brother . I can’t fathom the hate you felt yet the fear you had to endure for your daughter as well . I’m sorry your family had to deal with that darkness .
@@doctorgoldbud1321 Thank You!
One year later and this still touches me. So anxious to see the trial.
Me too
When is it
@@Kels-hf7xw Originally the trial was suppose to begin this past Oct. but now it most likely won't begin until the beginning of 2024. * Also, Kohberger waived his rights to a speedy trial so that can slow down the process and his counsel (Anne Taylor) is claiming that she wasn't given adequate time to prepare. This is also a death penalty case so I'm sure defense is dragging their feet. The only positive part is that the house where the victims were murdered will be demolished this month.
@@RobinMarconeCassidyRNthat sucks for the families
@@mangomonet2464 It sure does! They have to rehash that pain all over again and hear for the first time things that occurred that they didn't even know about. I can't even imagine. And who even knows how long this trial will take. Let's hope that the families will support one another throughout this nightmare.
“We don’t know when and how this DNA got there.” Yes, it’s 100% a coincidence that his DNA was under a body at a crime scene where 4 people were killed. It must also be a coincidence that he drove thru their neighborhood 12 times, and that his phone was off during the window of the crimes. All alone these would be coincidences, all together they are evidence of guilt. 🙄
I'm not sure if he was just at Moscow
Yeah when you get too many coincidences they stop being coincidences.
1) the sample on the sheath was 1/100th of a nanogram - 12 cells or so. they didn’t use str, they used snp (which involves using pcr to amplify / replicate the dna and then gaps are filled in according to statistical patterns. the dates matter in this case, especially since the fbi did the igg in-house. if they were already looking at kohberger, than they could have easily (intentionally or not) filled in the gaps in the dna to match his.
2)yes, 4 people were killed. it is way more likely that someone they knew killed them. look at similar cases. why did it take so long for the surviving roommates to call 911? why was a latent footprint found (i.e. cleanup occurred)?
3)that tower provided a 25 square mile coverage. bryan lived within that radius. we are not talking about gps here - we are talking about pinging.
4)the video footage does not show bryan’s car at all. the state was initially looking for a 2011-13 elantra. there is a visible difference between a 2013 and a 2015 elantra.
the state has no case. the argument that they are somehow “holding back the definitive evidence” is ridiculous - they have no reason to do this as it would put their entire case in jeopardy (just like withholding exculpatory evidence does). sorry, but your coincidences aren’t actually coincidences. i hope you are never falsely accused of a crime.
that’s not what they’re saying, but okay. 📚
@@happyaccidentxocome on who the hell else was it? Did Bundy know his victims? He happens to have everything lined up with what we know and yet it’s not him? Show me proof and maybe I’ll begin to buy it.
It baffles me that people still bring their cell phones with them while committing crimes, especially murder. You might as well just wear a GPS monitoring device.
That’s what I say ..this generation cannot leave the house without it…they could be 1 minute to arriving to they’re job and they will turn around and be late to job to go back and get it instead of going a day without it till they get home…this dude is no different,why wouldn’t he leave the phone in his apartment the whole time? Society is trained to not go without it and these phones are tracking you..al” these social media sites were invented to make you addicted…so glad I grew up without this crap..we had a pager, and had to go to a pay phone to call friends… pretty stupid of people to think oh I’ll just turn off my phone a 1/2 hour before and turn it back on 1 hour later…duh, leaving the phone on and at home would be a better thing for Bryan , in a small way…and this dudes a criminology major?
It really is ridiculous.
The cell data only proves he was In The area !
Why does it baffle you? Criminals are dumb people.
@@antonycuff4512but why even give them that? But a cheap minute burner phone or leave your phone at home.
I can tell you right now this would never happen here in Sweden - as far as I know you are NEVER allowed to reveal the identity of a suspect in the press prior to conviction. So no trial by media! And I can see why, when looking at this.
They are somehow supposed to find 12 people who haven't heard about the case to serve on the jury.
I think Sweden has it right.
Sweden is a horrible country
@AlexandraK1 Sweden has a population of like 1000 people.
@@justinedse8435 Not quite. About 10,5 million.
@@justinedse8435
That’s a childish thing to say. And, anyway, it wouldn’t matter to the principle at stake here.
They give such a positive attitude in their videos. This is such a tragedy. You can feel the pain of their parents.
I think it's a coping mechanism. They desperately cling to the happy memories to avoid a complete breakdown. 😢
Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right
@@rootiyriddle636 🤡
@@rootiyriddle636 i'd like to see how much $$ they've received from all their interviews they are so willing to do.
@@rootiyriddle636 are u crazy
One year since this terrible tragedy. Prayers for the families.
And he should be sentenced soon
I smell something weird. Don’t count on it being such as easy prosecution and the longer the amount of time that goes by the more like of an acquittal
@@chocolatewheelchair I tell some of what is the truth below in a comment to another comment. This case is full of lies, coverup and corruption. It's under a comment by: patralink. It is based on speculation and facts from lots of research.
An entire year already. It seems like yesterday. 4 beautiful, young, vibrant lives gone when they were really just beginning..🥀🥀🥀🥀💔🕊️
@@chocolatewheelchair"I smell something weird..." Because your spidey sense are tingling, this must all be a conspiracy or frame-job huh? Or, they've got the wrong man or BK (a complete loner with no friends) must have had help...bc you have "feelings" 😂-? Luckily, the FBI, Idaho State Police, Moscow PD, and the DA moved forward with more than just "feelings". Just because you don't like the evidence used to arrest him & can't conceptualize that they have far more that won't come out until trial doesn't mean anything "weird" is happening. Do you have any idea how slowly murder cases move thru the system-?
That house shouldn’t have been taken down.
All the evidence was collected and photos were taken. There's nothing else they needed.
He was a student of law/police procedure. Reminds me of Ed Kemper, who, in his own words, emphasized the importance of learning police procedures.
It’s so hard to watch the video of the girls at the food truck. Knowing what ends up happening to them. Makes you wish you had a Time Machine to warn them.
Would anyone believed you?
@@user-pt4xx4wu2iyou can dig holes outside the house and cover them in sticks. Rig the house Home Alone style 😂
I know. I’ve seen so many videos of people in the moments before they disappear or murdered and it’s hard to watch. It’s so scary. Makes you definitely want to live life to the fullest. Every moment
I agree 😢
feel bad for Kohberger. he has zero interest in these party girls and had no idea who the F they are. but everyone keeps forcing BK to be in love with them, such an insult to BK
I remember while this was happening, being suprised how everyone seemed to believe these things are always solved in hours and got all mad that it wasn't. Good job to those detectives involved.
It wasn't about not solving it instantly, it was about the cops' pathetic public relations and the confusing, contradicting statements they put out.
@@kenbob1071 nah. It was people thinking they needed to know things they didn't.
@@kenbob1071 why, were they supposed to hand out every bit of information they had, to warn their suspect!?! Disinformation and chaos can be a strategy.
How is it the next day from @ 4am to noon?
@@kenbob1071It’s called due process Ken. Nobody is entitled to getting information when they want.
I’ll never understand seeing this person. Hearing all the things she heard and not calling the police. How do you go back to sleep? I’m assuming she had to be intoxicated, what other reason could she have for doing that? I know people are defending her but she could have saved one or more of their lives had she called. I would be beyond furious if I was one of the parents.
He wasn't in the house long enough for a 911 call to have saved any of them. He might have been caught faster, but they would still be gone.
No one could be saved because their injuries were deadly and the stabbings got their vital organs. The boy killed had his throat sliced... no chance of survival.
Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right
dude, shut up you're a psychopath just like BK@@rootiyriddle636
Why do you think Xana and Ethan didn't call 911 while the 3rd floor murders were happening, presuming the 3rd floor murders occurred first?
I do not believe anyone that kills four people would leave any witnesses especially if they think they were seen
yes, these murders are full of rabbit holes. I'm waiting for the trial and the pieces of evidence they find because it's nearly impossible to decide if this guy did it or not just because of the accusation. Because I know deep down, there is more to know. Like witnessing the killer, got eye to eye, and lived to tell her story. Even if is not eye-to-eye, the killer 100% knew she was there but didn't care? So strange
I know it's her job (how she makes her hundred thousands) but that defense attorney is really annoying. She sounds so disingenuous, even going as far as victim blaming the petrified girl who saw Brian in the hallway and suggesting she's guilty. Disgusting.
Her arguments are so bad, but it was the eye roll that did it for me. She’s annoyed? Cool, ppl are dead, Shoulder Pads. Thank god for Vinny.
What no one has said in this video, I see as the main problem for this prosecution. If none of the victims’ dna 🧬 has been found in his car, his apartment, or his parents’ house, this prosecution will be extremely difficult because there was so much blood 🩸 in the victims’ house that it was even running outside down walls.. If they don’t have victims’ dna 🧬 tied to him…he walks and can never be tried again!
@@user-ks6fr8mh1uthat isn’t an unusual thing at all. Chances are this was a thoroughly thought out and premeditated attack, and let’s not forget this was a criminal law student who has more than likely studied how DNA is transferred or removed. It would be more shocking if they DID find the victims dna in his car or house considering we’ve already established that Brian is someone with the knowledge and capabilities to get away w a murder.
@@user-ks6fr8mh1u why do you use dna and blood emoji after the words? Is it in case someone thinks blood and dna means something else?
And how can you take an idiot like her seriously when she looks like someone about to engage in a porn scene
I know people are strong in their beliefs of whether he’s guilty or not. I’m waiting for the trial because I’m sure there are facts we don’t know about.
You have to believe very strongly in what the FBI and LE tell you. THEN YOU get your truth. :)
@@kaylaread8048
No I disagree with you, I will believe when I hear evidence presented, when I hear wittinesses speak, ABSOLUTELY not what MPD has ever stated in this case .. very odd FBI decides too return to the house of horrorsX4 where these heinous slaughters took place just shy of November 13 2022 … there is more too this gut wrenching crime than myself.. you or anyone knows
@@kaylaread8048huh?
@@kaylaread8048😅
all evidence shows 2 roommates are txting each other and clean up for 8 hours after the murder. its sick the innocent KOhberger is dragged into this
Bruh I'm a socially awkward person, just because I'm awkward doesn't mean I've killed anyone...
People hate social awkwardness. Society is basically bullying Bryan for being different and want him to be guilty so that they can justify their hate for him.
@nillyk5671 His DNA was found on the sheath.
do you write "research" on what it feels like to off sombody? do you wear gloves at 2 am and take trash to your neighbors can? Yeah, I ddin't think so. Dumb logic
They were 4 beautiful young kids with there whole life ahead of them and to be taken away like this is so unfair 😭 so sorry to all the families rip angels
The clip of Maddie’s dad made me tear up instantly… so heartbreaking
I agree. He seems so sweet and docile. Breaks my heart. These kids should be living their best lives right now. Such a tragedy.
Yea he looks so absolutely destroyed.
Spare a thought for the dad of the four victims' former roommate, Hannah Cleere. Do some proper research before shedding more tears for these 'beautiful, angelic' young women.
@@bdmc6583his daughter was brutally murdered what do you expect him to look like
@@thinkingallowed7042 you’re out of your mind. Regardless of what might have led to the murders, they didn’t deserve to be murdered and the parents of the 4 victims don’t deserve the lifelong suffering of losing a child. If you want to trigger someone or start a fight, you picked the wrong comment.
Seeing those vids of the victims is heartbreaking. They were living life and had so many possibilities ahead of them.
They were just like anyone else. Ignorant and hormonal! Object might differ from person to person but desire is something we share in common with every other human being.
Your whole life is steeped in hunting pleasures and through that fog you see the world around yourself because they all are same. No two trees are alike but you never really see a tree because you think you know what a tree is or what it looks like. You perception is never without the knowledge of the past experiences which never really last for more than a few seconds. Do you ever live or just spout words without paying any attention to them at all. Idiot.
Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right
Best coverage ever. Thank you
There is a reason we do not try cases in the media; rather, in a court of law.
I want to understand one thing...affidavit stated Dylan was in a 'frozen shock phase' and that's the reason why she didn't call 911 or go check on her roommates. Simultaneously, people say she didn't think anything was off about the noises she heard or the masked man she saw walking past her because it could've just been a visitor with a Covid mask and there's always noises in a 'party house'. To me, those two things don't go together at all. Either she was shocked or she wasn't concerned at all and went to sleep.
The affidavit didn’t say that the reason she didn’t call 911 is because she was in a frozen shock phase…it merely said she was in a frozen shock phase. The purpose of the affidavit was not to defend Dylan. Also people say that she thought nothing of it but that’s just opinions of random people. I can say anything I want about what happened that night but you have to realize that what you hear is merely the opinion of a random dude in Minnesota. Dylan has not given any public interviews and neither have the investigators she spoke with. In my opinion the fact that it took a long time to call 911 is completely irrelevant.
She could’ve been shocked to see someone in the house when she wasn’t informed of any visitors but decided it’s probably someone’s friend.
She saw him coming from the area where Ethan was. I’m sure Ethan had many friends that were unknown to most who lived in the house. Ethan didn’t live there. She probably didn’t know what to think. The fact that she was in shock could be because it was unexpected to see a stranger there. She probably told police a lot more than what was likely summarized in the affidavit.
I think some people in this comment section don't understand what "frozen shock phase" means. It means a person is unable to do ANYTHING and their survival instincts kick in. In Dylan's case, she was most likely hiding. I don't think seeing an unexpected visitor in a highly frequented college house is going to do that to you.
@@abz9850 frozen shock phase is basically a way of dissociating, to put it simply. We only know what limited information the affidavit listed. So it will probably be a lot clearer when the trial starts and evidence and witnesses are heard from, in length. It’s only my opinion, with what I’ve read and seen in reports.
My wish for these 4 kids is that the right person/persons be held accountable for what they did. I’m so sad that one day they will be just a memory that passes by your thoughts when they should be living their best lives. I could never imagine being the parent …. I would absolutely lose my effing mind. Steve is mild compared to what I would be… I feel his rage. 🙏🏻
They won't even be a memory. None of us will. Our anthropological dust will settle and history will be an esoteric mysticist's story between alien researchers.
I know what it's like since 2018.
@@debivanmarter🤍 so sorry for your loss 💔
@@debivanmarter I wish you didn’t… my heart hurts for you 🙏🏻😞
feel bad for Kohberger. he has zero interest in these party girls and had no idea who the F they are. but everyone keeps forcing BK to be in love with them, such an insult to BK
This is so so sad. My prayers go out to all the families that lost their children and also to all their friends as well. 😢❤
I CANT stop watching this case
Same. I really want to know if he's acquitted.
Same here, for one year, I’ve been watching everyday.
@@toddsmith1969hopefully
Same
@@toddsmith1969 No chance. The evidence is overwhelming already.
He was driving around because he knew he forgot the sheath and decided he couldn’t get it considering he knew the other roommates likely called the police
Good point !
He was driving around before the murders, i think he was scouting the area
I hate when people say they are dedicated to the truth. But you have previously recorded documentation of the other wrecked white car that was identical to the suspects, the 4:00AM door dash that was received that night, the parent's of one of the victims who states that it could have been anybody who committed these murders. Don't report part of the truth please cover the full evidence and facts of this case.
This was so well done. Thank you for giving us a look again at these 4 incredible lives. May they get the justice they deserve.
I agree to get justice the 4 victims but with the right responsible for the murders person!!!
@@KaBaMaRu_ I think they have the right person.
@@Saintsrockitall there are so many holes at this case and im not 100% sure that Bryan did this.
No, it wasn't well done. This "docu" is riddled with biased and more importantly very false information. This is actually very terribly done. So little fact checking was done that it bogles the mind how this got an OK to be uploaded.
Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right
Justice for Ethan, Xana, Kaylee, Maddie and families 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️. Prayers they get the correct person/ People 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
They have the correct person.
@@mewho8714 you dont know that ,,the evidence is miniscule ,,
@@tinalyons3964k brian
Lol@@tinalyons3964 the evidence is overwhelming. Both direct and indirect. This kind of evidence is really solid. There aren't that many cases where the evidence is this good.
@@tinalyons3964 No, I know that for a fact. You don't know that because you didn't bother to look at the evidence critically. That's a decision you made but no one else is obligated to follow your example. Ignorance is a choice you made, not a condition inflicted upon us.
Motive: PH.D criminal Justice Student obsessed with outsmarting law enforcement. Ego. There might be something with the insta connection.- maybe rejection. Defense lawyer arguments: silly. Witness: she was intoxicated, saw the guy got scared but didn’t realize he was a killer, high volume party house, probably thought friend of one of the people being weird. They’re protecting her because maybe some of them could have been saved if medical aid was rendered in timely manner.
I think she opened her door a couple of times to yell "shut UP, you guys! People are trying to sleep!' then it got quiet, then she heard something loud enough to get her out of bed to open the door to yell again, but she saw him, he walked past her, it was quiet, she went back to bed and passed out.
That's the simple answer. If it were dark, and his clothes were dark then she wouldn't see any blood.
I don't think she was scared when she saw him at all. The "frozen in fear" rhetoric has been refuted by her close friends. They say that she never said that, but for whatever reason that's what was released, meanwhile she was seen acting not all that terribly bothered by it all, save for getting a memorial tattoo.
It IS a miracle that she survived, if she looked him in the face, whether she knew what he'd done or not.
But, if she did, I'm pretty sure she would've called 911 behind her locked door after seeing him leave, instead of somebody else calling closer to the early afternoon, she was probably still passed out until the police woke her and the other roommate up.
That's just what it looks like, giving her the benefit of the doubt, on what an average party kid would do in that situation, if they weren't involved and got REALLY lucky.
Sorry if I sound argumentative, it's nothing personal, just a flaw in my communication skills.
(If she DID see blood, then I could see a freaked out intoxicated DUMB kid being too chicken to come put from under the blanket, but it sounds like bs to me)
@@GeeNoniGee sorry you’re all over the place on this one & difficult to follow.. I Just wrote a sentence or two about the roommate.. she is not Important… the dude is done man, he is getting the death penalty.
lmao i love the implication of guilt with the “he was awake at 1:30AM, in the kitchen, in his pjs, holding a trash bag!!”
me, standing in my kitchen at 2am, in my pjs, wearing latex gloves, deep cleaning the kitchen cuz i took too much adderall 👁️ 👄 👁️
@catdog7497 You expect us to believe that you are sorting tiny bits of trash into individual trash bags at 1:30AM wearing those gloves? Nah, you might be cleaning, but I don’t believe you are picking through your trash cans.
Funny! 🤣
Single source DNA on the knife sheath is curtains for Kolberger. But if that's not enough, the numerous car videos caught his car traveling to and from the crime scene. His cell phone pings, and his cellphone being turned off during the time of the crime. Eyewitnesses put his vehicle in the neighborhood streets next to the house where the crime happened. His internet postings on reddit. His obsession and internet searches on this particular crime even before it was announced in the news makes it crystal clear. His previous searches of the girls on social media and trying to reach out to them also makes his motive clear.
Where did you get this so called evidence you state as fact? Must be some of the misinformation Mark Fuhrman has fed to the media. There is no evidence released of eyewitnesses seeing his car nor has a picture of his cAr with him in it been released other than the stops in Indiana. Show a video of him going into 1122 King Road. Explain why the cartel came to King Road and Linda Lane. Wait,they didn't tell us about that. Did they tell the public there are two crime scenes? No. Did they say there up to 25 accessories to murder? Did they tell us that this was actually livestreamed, and people only paid $6 per person to watch on their phones? No. That's because of all the lies, coverup and corruption going on in this case.
There is sn ex-SEAL friend of Brent Kopacka who posted crime scene pics. Taunted investigators and the girls on IG, he posted pics of machetes, he's a psychopathic killer and he's called "The Moscow Slayer" (JOSCO1972?). I bet no one has heard of him and yet he and Brent Kopacka are part of the alleged killers never looked into. Brent was Swatted because he knew too much. The Slayer seems to be protected from being held for murder because he is a special government weapon.
His motive is he's some incel stalker in your story. In reality, this is a drug trafficking ring shakedown turned into a murderous rampage raid. FTR. No one was asleep and this started at 12:32 a.m. and ended when Kaylee allegedly died at 7 :00 a.m.
It’s all circumstantial except for the dna on the sheath. Driving around the scene of a crime helps build the case, but it’s far from enough to convict.
you just quoted like 4 pieces of "evidence" that have been debunked. The only official evidence out there is in the PCA. There's a gag order on this entire thing.
I wish Steve would explain the "didn't need to go upstairs" statement
He said it. In the beginning. Then he changed his mind. Why? Maybe he knows it from the beginning. If you think logical, you have to think, he had a hunch. Nothing makes sense, except the frats.
Me too maybe he knows it was supposed to be just xana there was a hit on her
There is no license plate to prove its bryan no pic of him it’s a white alantra a lot of people drive that
Xana and Ethan were the targets stemming from the fight earlier that night. They didn't have to go upstairs
Do those same ppl have their DNA on the knife sheath, turn their phone on and off during and before the crimes? Are they women haters? The evidence is there and so much more will come out at trial. And as Steve said if he's not personable that's on him. He is who he is. Jurors will judge the facts/evidence.
With the saturation of the media with this case, how in the hell are they going to find a jury that hasn't been significantly influenced? It will be impossible.
As far as I can tell and I did study criminology psychology and law at university this case is very circumstantial and as a person from Australia I find it absolutely mind boggling that the American media has basically already found this fellow guilty this whole guilty by public opinion situation is quite frankly ridiculous. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Your media coverage and wild accusations that are baseless are completely out of control. The public who are clearly clueless about the legalities of these circumstances are running around with pitchforks! It's nuts
The media in the US is prob the worst in the world. All liars and snakes.
Good show last night! I looked forward to it! Heart was heavy today remembering those kids! 😢😢
Best documentary yet excellent job at explaining both sides
Both sides? What are the two sides?
I look forward to the trial and so many questions answered. My condolences to all family and friend of the victims and God Bless the first responders. You cannot unsee what they have seen. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Amen to that 🙏 😢
So he went into 2 bedrooms where he killed 2 persons each, one after another - without the other waking up and screaming? I don't know...
I think only 1 he was targeting but the others were like collateral damage to him ... but sad story all around.. this guy will be convicted eventually.... this guy looks creepy and weirdo
I sometimes hear stuff happening in court and then possible doubt of him being innocent and then I remember he was separating his trash with gloves on, he put his trash in his neighbor’s trash can, his phone put him in that area at the time of the murder and after the murder and I remember why most people are confident in his guilt
He was also most likely on drugs- hiding drugs from his family. What would he have taken to Pennsylvania to hide from the cops?
Most people really do think case is suspicious as hello! Meaning i have like 50 questions. And they think people are stuped. There clearly was some intentional crime scene contamination going on. Experts were like wth they are doing.
remember all the gossip about "blood on his pillow", "instagram follow/DM", "victims ID" all confirmed 100% fake.
i'm 100% sure "put trash to neighbor bin" is fake too
@@ElaraNightsky Yep. I dont think so either that those are true. Remember case file leaked where defense actually found out WSU officer Dawn Daniels trespassing Kohberger appartment. When they went back there second time, i mean the Defense team find out that and they took again photos. Defense team took also his flat tv, computer screen, books, some boxes, papers etc. Well same WSU officer conviniently "forgot" samples, actual chain of custody of 3 samples in her locker. You can not make this shise up! And defense also had to ask, compel bodycamera videos from PA raid. Do they have them to this day, i don know.
@@ElaraNightskyplease fill us in on how you know what is fake & what is true?
This case just won't let me go... already a year later. I hope for justice soon, although nothing will be enough because you won't get Maddie, Kaylee, Xana & Ethan back. prayers for the family & friends of the victims and a big hug ❤️
I know. It has disturbed me since the first reporting. I have been obsessed with all the facts. It’s insane. True evil walks among us. I have two daughters. This just hits home to my heart.
Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right
I listen to this and the " excuse " given for not calling 911. The narration is that she opens her door for the 3rd time and a guy dressed in dark clothing and bushy eyebrows walks past her. She closes her door and does nothing for 8 hours. 8 hours that could have saved one or 2 of those lives. The sheath was left behind - so then the murderer walked past with a BIG ass KNIFE in his hand and probably with bloody hands and she still did NOT call 911 - even if petrified- 8 hours? ! She also heard NOTHING? When a man enters a room - any room( or the one across from you or above with paper-thin walls ) with 2 people in it, knife in hand and stabs one person ( because ONE man cannot stab 2 people simultaneously ) the other person reacts SURELY - the other person screams/ pleads or tries to make a run for it to escape. HOW were 4 people silently - viciously stabbed to death?! HOW ?
THATS WHAT IM SAYING!!!!!! 4 Brutal stabbings and NO 1 SCREAMED... like NO 1??????..... she definitely had something to do with it
Exactly!!! 💯
noo c'mon you need to look at this practically. He came in, in the MIDDLE of night, with the presumed main target being the girls on the 3rd floor. They were most likely asleep in their bed together when he came in. It was dark, and if they are asleep he is over them in 2 seconds stabbing them... that's not much time to scream. Imagine you are awoken by literally being stabbed, you can't even see anything. Its definitely possible in this case that he wounded them so much before they were even able to let out a scream. The couple, I'm not sure about. We don't have enough information to know what really happened. Did he intend to kill them? Were they just collateral damage? Who knows. I'm not saying it's not a little odd that there weren't any screams, but at least for the girls upstairs, I think it makes sense.
As far as Dylan, she did hear some things. But she didn't automatically assume her friends were being MURDERED, i mean, who automatically goes to that??? She popped out of her room and clearly didn't see much or hear much... so she goes back to bed. I lived in a university house like one they lived in, and yeah I heard noises of my friends coming in and out, cooking at weird hours, drinking, etc. I also saw a bunch of random people I didn't know bc they were friends of my friends. So when she saw the guy, mind you she probably was half asleep, maybe intoxicated, and it's dark... she probably didnt see him with blood all over himself and giant knife. She just saw a guy in black leaving the apartment. Maybe she was a bit scared, but convinced herself it was just a friend of a friend, or something. So she goes back to bed, sleeps in the next morning and finds out all of her friends are dead. That must have just been so horrible.. I can't even imagine. Apparently she called her friends first because she was just so horrified. The chances that she was in on it are just so slim. Also, side note but I actually went to university with this guy and was in a class with him. Scary stuff!
Calls her friends first though? If you walk in and see your friends murdered, why would you not call 911 first? But, call friends over.... something is really off with that whole scenario.
@@ericmarden8481 yeah well.. In this younger generation they are always relying on their friends, I mean they talk to them 24/7 via text. Nowadays young students would rather call their friends first than the police. but I had heard she called her friends and when they arrived she immediately passed out on the front lawn. Clearly… she was not okay and probably had some kind of panic attack.
What a horrible tragedy. To see them immortalized in video, acting like normal kids, and you weep for them knowing they were robbed of their futures. Somebody better pay dearly for this. No it can't bring them back, but this person doesn't deserve to live.
Not somebody. BK.
Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right
This case shocked me to the core, they were so young, funny and full of life
Funny?
@@chrisspearline767: Yes, did you not see the clips they input of them being silly and laughing at each other? Do you not consider that them being "funny"?
And they wasted there life to be burning in hell😢😮
Are you living like them?
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@@Heseesyouare you insane? If you think you are anything close to the embodiment of Christ, you are hugely mistaken.
@rustyspoon2211 says the God hating sin lover who is a child of satan. My father kills people and throws them in hell for their wicked deeds.. your next to be put there if you don't repent.. that is the gospel, that is the truth, the way the life.. only a wicked sinner would even say what you say.. your a liar to spread false truth about christ.. he isn't coming back as a baby in a Manger.. go read and be found faithful on that day.. or ignore why I was sent to speak to you.. only ex sinners enter the kingdom of God.. for it is written..REPENT OR PERISH SINNERS..
Ill never forget that first press conference and how scary it was knowing no one had been caught.
I was drilling my doors and windows shut that night. It was terrifying but nothing like what these beautiful kids must of went through . What a monster that could do this
You know what’s even more scary? They’re still out there living life. But so long as everyone feels safe, they don’t care if they have the right person.
wtf?
why would you be scared?
this comment is so cringe.
all evidence shows 2 roommates are txting each other and clean up for 8 hours after the murder. its sick the innocent KOhberger is dragged into this
@@Hello-ig1px you’re attitude is cringe. You would throw all your rights and the rights of others away so long as YOU feel “safe”. 🙄
The first interview with the news reporter was that the two roommates were down stairs in the same room and hward a noise and locked themselves in, and the other roommate DM says that shes was on the second floor, which means that she is lying to the DOJ ,😮😮
This is so sad on all levels this breaks my heart and brings a tear to my eye my condolences to the family may God be with you❤
There are SO many things about this case and investigation that make absolutely NO sense.
Because they are lying?
Allow me to clear it up for you then. What's got you confused?
@@abebuckingham8198 eight hours wait. Explain that to me. Genuinely and just don't say the frozen in fear rubbish.
@@deniseelsworth7816she passed out? We don't actually know the circumstances yet.
@@janetgood6332 people don't pass out for 8 hours either. I think that would be seen as unconscious. So that's another time they should have got assistance and didn't. I find when things r so baffling they tend to be lies.
My sincere condolences to the family’s of these Amazing people I hope justice is actually done and the truth and correct conviction takes place so these families can have some closure.
Gonccalves family never miss an opportunity to cry infront fo the cameras. poor BK is guilty until proven innocent and that's not right
That is really scary that students allow strangers in their home at all hours of the day and night to party and the actual renters are not even there!!! That is really scary. It is surprising that no one was attacked or theft did not occur even before the murders. That whole thing is crazy to me. I hope other young people use more caution in who they allow in their home dwellings.
Drug Dealers all over that area...
Scary indeed. Posting photos of the inside of the house and their personal info out on social media is a recipe for disaster. Parents, teach your, especially daughters, to stop posting personal info. Have you not learned anything?
you've never been to college party houses before? heck, my friends even did stuff like this 25 years ago when we were in college.
He look so serious that his eyes are so emotionless
Tiffany sounds like she is trying to convince herself not to worry about the DNA. While she described the situation, I could not help but roll my eyes at the bizarre coincidence that it would take for Bryan Kohburger to HAPPEN to both be the main suspect for the dozen OR so circumstantial reasons AND ALSO be to poor guy who happened to touch that particular knife sheath!
Lol, is she kidding?!
Another 🐑.
No she's not kidding she is most likely 💯 percent right on everything you should shut your mouth and open your eyes and ears imo just saying
11:28 why would the killer leave a witness and slowly walk past her? And it takes her over 5 hours to call the police.
@@shirok4140 So many people are confused about how sleep works. People sleep. Even small children do it. It's not that confusing my guy.
@@abebuckingham8198 so you can sleep easily after your friends get murdered?
Totally unrelated but how tf did a highschool/college girl buy a Range Rover as a gift to herself after getting a new job?
Who care?
The woman who survived Ted Bundys' attack was because the medics were notified so quickly by a roommate in the house. This story is so so heartbreaking. But they didn't not see Bundy. He was gone and the roommate went to check on the other girls.
I don’t think any of the Idaho 4’s injuries would allow them to survive, no matter how soon the ambulance got there. Sadly.
😊😊😊
all evidence shows 2 roommates are txting each other and clean up for 8 hours after the murder. its sick the innocent KOhberger is dragged into this
@@ElaraNightskydude, who are you??
@@andidunn9999 here they are .. the pathetic killer lovers
Something is wrong with all this 🤔
Like think.. She saw a dude creeping in her house with a mask she she just goes to sleep and calls 8 hours later...🤯
Exactly, everyone would scream or call 911 right away. Or check around the house after the person left to see what happened with others
I saw the latest interview with Ethan's parents one year later and what an amazing, beautiful, strong family that is so proactive and such a tribute for and to Ethan. So touching in so many ways yet you are left with such strength. Incredible!
I cried watching that interview. Full on sobbed. It was so touching
I am and always well be sadden for the lost souls of those people.
And that he was apart of triplets!! 😢😢😢😢😢
Much love to these families, survivors, and community. ❤
Like witnessing the killer, got eye to eye, and lived to tell her story. Even if it is not eye-to-eye, the killer 100% sure knew she was there but didn't care? I mean a killer like that who murdered 4 people already, why would he leave the other 2 and expose himself like this? There is no way he didn't know, he literally stalked them. So much to undercover, waiting for the trial to see what the hell happened that night.
If all my friends were murdered in a house and i waited 8 hours to call 911, i would be a suspect.
TRUE
It was a party house. So you’re trying to convince people that Dylan and Bryan were actually the besties, not the girls earlier that day in the photo? Bryan looks like a real party starter, you’re right. I’m sure the law didn’t check up on Dylan early on, like A YEAR AGo? Why didn’t we hear about that? Maybe because it’s not real?
How delusional are you then? you votin for Drumpf again too, clown? 🤡 holy s*** mann 😭 the internet broke you. Touch some grass perhaps.
TRUTH!
This...
For sure !
Guys, It's a party house. When Dylan opened her bedroom door and saw bushy eyebrows, to her, he would be just another party hound passing by. I'd bet she thought nothing of him, yelled again for everyone to shut up and go to sleep then closed her door and slept until 11:00 AM. This "Frozen in Fear" is nothing more than Clickbait.
no house party was taking place that night and they were all in bed asleep except for ethan and zana. what are you talking about?
Aww man that ending caught me off guard 😔😔 R.I.P to each one of them 💚🕊️
I hope the families get justice !!!
Sara Azarie saying his DNA found at the crime scene is insufficient is absolutely ridiculous.
Why ? Crooked cops could have
Planted it
@@TerribleConnection77 It was a revenge/obsessive passion killing. Lots of people were in and out of the house, but they were young people - fellow students, friends, because it was a college town and a college house. Brian was in his later 20's, so older than them, almost graduated from college, and was rejected by Maddie Mogel - he previously followed her account, and was slayed along with three of her friends by him. A personal item, such as a knife and its sheath, doesn't just "poof" DNA onto itself. The evidnce is not circumstantial. Everything places him at the scene, his alibi, the gaps in time with the phone and footage of the car doing circles thru the neighborhood, and more. The evidence is corroborated by so many elements, the narrative painted by the evidence alone is insanely airtight. Yes, there were people in and out of the house, but they were not flukes. They were NORMAL people, students and friends. NOT INCLUDING BK, he was the fluke that murdered four of them and was probably rejected for reasons that led to the evident events. This will be one nightmare of a case for his defense attourney to sit through.
I disagree, why would he have a tactical knife just carrying it around? Then no explanation whatsoever where the knife is, he’s saying it isn’t his at all.
The DNA is the nail in the coffin for a guilty verdict. However, it is in COMBINATION with all the other evidence.
@@nikitakucherov5028it should be thrown out. Touch dna is not reliable. Look up Lukis Anderson, he did 5 mths in prison because his touch dna was on the murder victim's nail. And he was not in the vicinity of that victim.
To me this is some of the most amount of evidence you can have against someone that isn't a clear video of him walking into the residence or committing the murders themselves..
Not even close
Something is off.
Not sure why this was a special. All the same information. Nothing new. Still not convinced either way. Time and evidence will tell. Hope that there is justice for the victims and their families one day,
I missed it last night. Been checking non stop to see when it would be aired on here!!!!
Prayers for the family
🙏🙏🙏🙏 to the families of these young people!
With our country on the edge of authoritarianism I totally forgot about this horrific case.
Edge, nah we’re fully across the line at this point
🤣🤣🤣🤣you're fatass is still using a phone watching a special about four murders.
But I suppose you think the billionaire trump is the saviour
Great white hope 🙌🏼
I believe warrantless wiretaps and complete invasion of privacy being snuck in under the guise of a “patriot act” was us going over the edge we’ve become the very thing we swore to destroy
If she didn’t know what happened WHY WOULD SHE BE SO SCARED THAT SHE FROZE. SHE ONLY SAW A MAN !!!! Which wasn’t a big deal in a party house !
Right? It makes zero sense!
Nothing she said makes sense.
Been saying this for a year!
She didn't freeze she was texting BF while her friends were being killed. She knows who did this and possibly involved herself.
Well even if you don’t know what happened, I’m sure seeing a large man in all black and a black ski mask walking through your house in the middle of the night and leaving through the back door was pretty freaking scary.
Horribly sad. Prayers for comfort and strength.
His defenders be like: "The fact that he was storing his personal garbage in sealed baggies is purely circumstantial! You see, he was conducting another personal research project; comparing the rate of bacteria growth on household trash in ziplock bags versus generic ones. Make perfect sense!"
May…🙏they all rest in peace together. The light were always shown upon them forever, and I’ll always be remembered rest in peace Idaho 4 gone but never forgotten. Australia follows this very closely like I do in Melbourne Australia and my heart goes out to the families.❤
To many unanswered questions about this case, I sure hope the prosecution don't blow it and the correct justice is served to the right
Individual(s)
Rest in peace beautiful souls, may you all fly high
There are several things about this case that puzzle me. First, as a criminology student he knows that a cell phone can be used to track his movements. If he really is the killer, he could have left the cell phone at home. The cell phone records would make it look as if he was at home at the time of the killing. Second, he was a teaching assistant for criminology students. If one of his students was angry with him, how hard would it be to steal Kohlbergers knife and use that knife for the killing, knowing that the knife will have Kohlbergers DNA on it. Even a mediocre criminology student will know how to prevent his own DNA from getting on the knife. The mere fact that the knife has Kohlbergers DNA on it does not prove that Kohlberger is the murderer. That is particularly true if Kohlberger is being framed for the murder.
man i feel for Kaylee’s dad. You can tell he’s trying to be mentally strong and be patient but man, that’s his daughter they murdered. Those are 4 innocent lives just taken away brutally.
I've only heard of one suspect. Have you heard somewhere that there is more than one person responsible?
When Maddie’s dad came on I broke down 😭
Why does the voiceover at the start sound like this is an advertisement for a new blockbuster thriller movie ?
Great Job.
I feel for their families and loved ones.
I do as well. This could’ve easily been any of our kids….😔😢💔
Exactly 1 year ago TODAY these 4 beautiful kids were robbed of their precious lives..
Praying for justice that the TRUTH COMES OUT & nothing but the truth.. that every single lie be exposed in Jesus name! Amen
Amen
This will always hit hard 💔💔💔 truly a senseless murders
❤ and prayers to the victims family and relatives and friends 😊
I think as of now we know maybe 20% of the evidence because of the gag order. We don’t know what the data is of the vehicle’s onboard computer and navigation, or all the data from the examinations of all digital devices. All the public has seen is the probable cause affidavit to lawfully arrest BK. We haven’t seen any accompanying warrants for searches of his campus apartment, house, etc. This is why it is vital that the trial be televised so that a jury’s decision can be considered and compared with all the evidence, witnesses and experts testimonies presented.
What does it "being televised" have to do with the jury....if anything ITS A GREATER CHANCE OF HAVING A "UNBIAS" jury if it's NOT televised...
Jury cannot look at tv or anything about the case while serving on the jury. It's jury misconduct but they might have to change the venue as this small town is swirling with more rumors than facts
@@lisacarroll9927do you really think some jurors don't break the rules
Even if he stopped at the house for 10 minutes like the prosecution timeline says, he could have been there to stop the killer/killers or visit one of the women in the house. He had prior social media contact with some of them.
The gag order does not cover court filings. And in a court filing in late June, one of BK's lawyers wrote that none of the searches produced any connection between BK and the victims. No DNA. Nothing.
Wow they gone a good job with creating an entire video of 43 minutes long that literally said nothing that we didn't already know.
You just saved me time. Thanks!
Vinnie legit looks like Bryan 🤣🤣🤣
Lmaooo 💀😂
But seriously if police stopped making public their investigations before coming to any valid facts maybe people wouldn't be so quick to come to the wrong conclusions and innocent people wouldn't be berated and accused wrongly and prematurely
The ending tribute was absolutely beautiful and brings us back to what really matters in this case- them
It’s weird that the killer struck on the one and only night Kaylee was in town. Her dad says she bought that ranger over herself. It sucks she was there. I wonder how much she paid on it. I know she just got a new job and was literally moved out. Ethan didn’t even live there either.
If it was a recent purchase the dealership can reverse the purchase. My dad bought a truck and passed away that same night of a heart attack. The dealership were very helpful reversing it for us. I’m sure the parents we not too worried about that though.
Exactly. I think Madison was the target. Kaylee just happened to be there. And Xana was awake and eating and saw him.
These media people who make their living gossiping and speculating sensational crimes make me sick. Often times, they make an investigation harder for the police and tougher for the alleged perpetrator to get a fair trial.
to murder like that and no blood found in his car? come on man
That is odd for sure.
Probably wearing a jumpsuit and gloves
@@scoobydoo8498 can't avoid the blood, it squirts.
Yes. But he could've got rid of the coveralls and the gloves
Everyone on Tik tok who thought they were legit detectives should’ve gotten their pages taken down cus they did so much damage to those guys they accused. Terrible! Anyways so sad for all the victims and their families!! So heartbreaking! 💔
1,000,000% 👏👏👏
People need to be help accountable for attempting/ruining innocent lives
💯 some action should be taken against them Tik tok not on
Amen to this
Well at least the "psychic" who still claims that innocent professor who works at the university is 'the real killer or hired killers to murder them' is getting dragged through court over her insane accusations that are literally based on nothing more than her "intuitive gifts and spiritual practice"... no photos, no eyewitness account, no relationship to the victims, nothing, zero. Just her "intuitive gifts and investigative skills"... that's literally the same exact way that these tiktok detectives are operating when it comes to their ridiculous accusations. There is no respect for due process and how real investigators work. And it ends up doing so much more harm to the case and the victims involved than just being public speculation. It's so incredibly sad. I don't understand why people will stoop so low to drag people around that they never met and have no legitimate cause to slander. Its like these people are paper dolls to them, meaningless and inconsequential when these victims and their families are just as real as they are!!! These people better pray nothing so horrible happens to them that they suddenly have no voice to defend their friends and loved ones with.
I couldn't listen to these irresponsible characters they like the attention and they make lots of $$$$
I can’t wait for this trial just to hear the testimony from the surviving roommates. What in the world were they thinking??
It’s call shock and fear coupled with the fact that they we’re basically kids. Probably living a protected life.
I bet, they will never testify. And if, the truth will never come out.
You never know how you’ll react in a situation especially one like this.
Traumatic shock, it's your body's natural defense mechanism that helps protect your brain and body. Which can cause a range of physical and emotional symptoms, such as numbness, confusion, and disassociation. In other words, they weren't thinking. Their brains switch to flight mode instead of fight mode.
@@motleymama6587 I’m sorry but I don’t buy that. If you were petrified but thought there was a killer in your house, you’d hide under your covers or in your closet and call 911. At the very least, you’d call BEFORE almost noon! I find it very hard to have any sympathy for this woman. She was NOT a “kid”.
It's Kohlberger. He's so creepy. I hope he's not out on bail.
He's not.