Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes (Switch) Review - Sorry, Kickstarter Backers
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
- Jordan pushed through a slog of an RPG to put out his review for Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes, coming to Nintendo Switch on April 23, 2024.
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Dungeon Design made up of circles and wandering paths...
Sounds like you were the kid who got lost in the haystack maze at the school fair.
There's some valid complaints here, like the Switch performance and the equipment swapping, but a lot of them seem like positives to me, or at least not the negatives you make them out to be. As someone who's been missing the oldschool style of rpg, this seems like it'd be up my alley.
Random battles are not inherently bad, and I appreciate that the game doesn't create a checklist for you where it tells you where all the heroes are and how to recruit them. That sounds like a list of chores if anything. I always like when a game doesn't handhold you.
Reviewers should complain to Nintendo for the Switch performance. The Switch was fine seven years ago, but now, its hardware is outdated as hell. My phone is more powerful than the Switch.
@@fastica the game is unoptimized, not just on switch. The game 27Gbs on switch, plz explain that.
@@fastica have you played star ocean 2 on switch ? i think it's not the same budget (square vs indie dev) but star ocean look much better, it's 2.5d too and it runs great. the problem here is clearly with optimization
@@sion41391 what!!!! I look on the eshop and your right it's 29gb, I guess the physical will be with a download thanks now I can cancel my preorder without any regrets 😂👍
@@fastica Lol, tell me why this game file size is 28GB on the switch, Also tell me why this game runs like crap on the switch when there are games like Xenoblade, etc which are way more complex
As a Kickstarter backer, I'm 100% happy with the finished product. I got exactly what I wanted. I've been a Suikoden fan for 25 years. This game is for me, and those like me.
I've been playing the game for almost a week. Its in the running for my GOTY.
Glad to hear that, I played all 5 suikoden and played the first 2 (and 5) many times. I have watched many reviewers saying negative things about this game, do they know why the game is being made in the first place? But for the QoL like inventory management I agree that it could be improved. The dislike the inventory when I played suikoden 2 way back so hope that they patch and improve it
You accepted what they gave you lol, it's called the Sunken Cost Fallacy. Of course you're going to say "you got what you wanted" brother, you didn't have a choice and you've spent your money. So now you and a ton of others now find yourselves on the defensive and just have to let everyone know how satisfied you are with a mediocre product.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 that's quite a few false assumptions. I knew what I was paying for, they communicated what they were developing. I agreed to the transaction based on that information.
Sounds like some serious projection on your part, maybe.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079from what I’ve seen the non switch versions are better, it just seems to run poorly on switch and probably should have been delayed on the console to iron out the issues. But yeah it releasing in this state on switch sucks and probably just shouldn’t have at all. Also some qol additions would be nice to add.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 what an embarrassing take. Going out of your way to hate on this game you must have nothing better to do with your time. What a productive member of society 😂 get a life clown 🤡
Lol this game clearly isn't for you... it was designed for those who love old school JRPG's.
I havent had any performace issues, and thought the encounter rate was kind of low. It actually made grinding new characters take longer than older JRPGs because the game MIGHT give you 1-2 encounters going straight through an area. Thankfully there is an accessory that bumps up the rate (and one that bumps it down to practically no encounters). Perhaps his memory is on a particular castle near the end of the game that DOES INDEED have a higher encounter rate.....But it wasnt so bad as "Step-fight-two steps-fight" like old games used to be. Personally random battles don't bother me regardless. But I thought it was odd after playing it and realizing how low the rates were compared to older titles.
Also ‘it’s frustrating to scour the world for allies’ is literally the core mechanic fans of,the genre are looking for 😂😂😂 not sure who this person is reviewing for!
so no one plays the game for the story or the combat?
and you are fine with the game blocking further progression until you collected x amount of characters? it sounds pretty annoying
@@Ghisteslohm139 considering tha ti spend more time exploring and gathering allies than doing the story in suikoden, yea im fine with it.
Their complaint about hidden recruits was really silly considering what this is a spiritual successor to.
@@feraldrgn Exactly l, the game is not without its downsides ( mostly QOL) but the core game itself is a blast to play.
But it would have been a nice QoL to add the people that you meet somewhere. Like after the guy joins the castle you can see some data about him and if not you just see "???" And the location where you saw him.
Oh well. Glad I'm playing it on my Ps5. You can tell the reviewer is a young lad. I'm not afraid of high encounter rates. I've lived through gaming since the early 80's and this kinda game is right up my alley.
Why you sound like you never played suikoden before 😂
Obviously he didn't, although he referenced the game multiple times in the review *facepalm*
I also had that same thought. This game emulates everything I love about Suikoden. Random battles, castle building, party recruitment and large scale tactic style battles. There wasn't any tracking of allies in Suikoden and I loved it. It made you have to revisit places to try and find those missing characters.
It is odd that he says he likes Suikoden and not this game while insulting every element that is the exact same. Maybe he's playing too many first person shooters and has forgotten what RPGs are all about.
Not really sure but this is a spiritual successor of Suikoden and it takes heavily on those aspects. So if you haven't played the Suiko series previously and going blindly, then and found yourself not loving this, then this game is not for you. And when did dungeon crawling became oh so easy? Lol, even the encounter rate seems mid or lower compared to Suikoden and what's with "random encounter rate leaving it back to the 90's"...well that's why the game is a nod to "old school JRPGs" at its finest. and what's fairly boring and lifeless? I look at it as vibrant and colorful. I'm not really sure if this is a review or just a rant. Simply put, the reviewer does not give a lick or even played Suikoden before as the comparison stems from other JRPGs which was not the point on why this game was made and why it is called a "spiritual successor" and interestingly enough, the developers are previous Suikoden developers, so go figure. Truthfully, a very very very bad review.
PS: The only thing that I will agree is the Switch performance.
> So if you haven't played the Suiko series previously and going blindly, then and found yourself not loving this, then this game is not for you.<
Thats every game in existance.
Ooooof… I am one of those Kickstarter backers and I backed it at a high tier… even the reviewers who try to say nice things about this game can’t deny the shortcomings of this game.
Come on LaL, if there's one thing you can't trust game reviewers on, it's JRPGs.
I'm 19 hours into the Steam version and I think you are WAY off. I can't speak for the performance issues but that is why I don't play Switch ports. I know what I'm going to get besides the rare few stellar ones. The game is channeling old school and I appreciate that these days. I'll take something like this and Suikoden over some mess of a current day mess of a JRPG with 1000 different POORLY explained and convoluted gameplay systems that they call "innovations".
Many Switch RPGs run okay / good. I prefer Switch because of optional couch or bed gaming. This game should run better. But tbh not everyone needs the best performence to enjoy a game. But this is of course a really bad port. I´ll go with PS5.
Apparently the encounter rate is tied to ur monitor’s refresh rate which is why some reviews complained about very low encounter rates while this one complains about a very high encounter rate. Another unfortunate oversight. A shame the devs didnt polish the game more ahead of release
Honestly, it looks almost like the footage switched halfway thru from being the Switch version over to the PS4/PS5 version lol. Is this true? The image quality seemed to jump at about the halfway mark in this video.
A complaint about recruitment in a Suikoden inspired game seems like a weird complaint. Like complaining that the baconator has too much bacon
Switch performance is at that divisive level where some people won't mind it, while some will be very sensitive to it. And for some reason, Digital Deluxe is not on the Japanese eShop yet. Might wait a bit. Also looking forward to Another Crab and Megaton Musashi W anyway.
Mind you the season pass price for this game is simply egregious.
The base game is $50 and then $10 for each of the upcoming 3 story DLCs and the soundtrack totaling $80. Doesn't seem particularly egregious to me.
Random battles are not a negative, it's a gameplay mechanic that's still used in highly praised RPGs.
Recruits & recruitment requirements being hidden instead of a checklist is a positive for people who like secrets & figuring things out themselves, that sort of thing is also what gets people talking about a game long after its release.
I agree with the complaint that you have to put characters in your party to swap out equipment, rather than being able to do it in the party formation list. I think to avoid having to do that so much you should remove all equipment from your active party members before benching them.
Just like with Suikoden, you're not expected to use all 100+ heroes, so upgrade who you want to actually use.
On the topic of Switch performance, was there supposed to be footage here that had framerate drops? Because I didn't see any.
If there were crashes, framerate problems, load screen problems etc., then you really should include footage of it rather than just saying it.
I love this game it reminds me of suikoden 1 and 2 those games were my childhood.
I wish ppl would stop reviewing the switch versions of games
The game is fine ppl are complaining about things the devs said they wanted to keep faithful...
Every Gen Z opinion about this game shouldn't count. This game is clearly not meant for you, it's for us who played Suikoden back in the day and have been waiting for a sequel or a successor for years.
If the footage is from the Switch version, it looks like it runs fine to me!
Fine to you doesn't mean is fine for everyone else. Much less with the list of issues mentioned.
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 Considering the complaints, it looks like it runs plenty ok to me. I was expecting some egregious frame issues but it seems mostly fine.
Likewise, I was expecting to see some stuttering. Rule 1 of video reviews is you should always show evidence of the problems you had (including the other performance problems they say they had).
@@feraldrgn Looking closer at the footage, it looks like it may swap to the PS5 version at the midway point 😅 It looks a bit too good to be all Switch footage!
@ralphtaylor7448 Haven't even played that, so if you're referring to me the answer is no.
Lots of Switch ports end up playing poorly tho. I know a lot of ppl rightly complained about the Metal Gear Solid Collection on Switch. Some games played in 30FPS even tho the original game was 60, which is a real shame... There's ZERO reason the Switch can't play those games at 60FPS.
So I did some digging and I seen somebody do a review on another console and it looked like it was lagging so how is it just to switch please do a little bit more research on the other systems too as well to see if it’s not just the switch thank you
You can clearly see where we are these days. many people don´t understand the sould behind games anymore. They are so focused on graphical things (that the not understand artstyle decisions). Rise of the Ronin for example is a great game for what it is. But you see people more complaining about the graphics (and tbh it looks good)or comparing it with GoT (which is a differnet type of game) than speaking about the gameplay itself. I mean, of course, everyone´s taste is different... but it feels like many can no longer see the games for what they want to be.
I´m sure many of the kickstarter people are happy. I never played Suikoden. But i will buy it, because all points are my taste. I like the more classic and basic aspects. Random battles are maybe a thing. But i heard that it is moderate. Otherwise everything about it looks interessting to me. So many characters that you can insvite. Story and a tactical turned base combat system. I also like the older Persona 4 Golden for example and the dungeon crawling "souls like" and had no problem with the more "outdated" and classic gameplay. So i´ll give it a try. I personally like also interactive combat systems (like FF16), but tbh you find too many of them these days. I prefer turn based combat.
Edit: looks like the Switch Port is really bad. So PS5 it will be then
Thank you for the review! This actually may not have dissuaded me from getting the game, but it does make me want to stay away from the Switch version. Random encounters, the recruitment issues and dungeon design are not something I find myself put off by personally. The thing that does make me want to stay away is Switch performance, so I will probably pick this up on PS5.
That Was Quite Harsh, I Agree That Nintendo Switch is Having a A Lot of Trouble Optimized Many Titles (Even Indies Game) To Be as good as The Other System, But the Gameplay Wasn't THAT Bad.
the best jrpg in recent years. wish i backed the kickstarter
It's so sad to me that game reviewers are forbidden by law to touch grass. I honestly don't get hooked on most games I try out, but I usually just accept that has something to do with my tastes or mood. Like all the footage of this game looks very competently put together, the complaints sound like they have to do with core elements of the genre, and the performance issues discusses apparently were not captured. It's fine to feel this way about a game, but I'm not sure it makes for a very helpful review for the sorts of people who might be considering this game.
Sounds like you don't like classic jrpgs
Um, a lot of these thing he mentioned sounds like positives to me. The only real issues I have is with the Switch's version under-performing. I'll just buy it on Steam of PS5 then. I don't think this guy is a fan of this old JRPG genre.
I don't like this '90slikejrpg' because it plays like 90s like jrpg!
I think Unicorn Overlord is old school RPGs done right while this game seems to take the worst aspects of older JRPGs and wears them with honor.
Looks like you've just list down all the negatives. This is not a proper review.
Antiquated? Whoever reviewed this clearly doesn't care for oldschool type RPG's.
Oh am sorry this game hurt you on a deep level as it sounds like, or your just trying to assasi nate the game because you work for a rival company, did bash octopath traveler as well? Just wondering
You’re definitely not into old school rpgs. I can see the switch’s performance being a problem but optional random battles? Are you kidding? They even put an auto battle option in there. You definitely like hand holding in your rpgs. Go back to Pokémon and let the big boys enjoy this old school masterpiece
Oh please you're calling yourself a "big boy" because someone doesn't like the same old JRPG tropes that have almost killed the genre in the past? and please don't start, I started with Breath of Fire back in the 90s. There's a reason why "old school rpgs" are no longer as popular as they once were and any modern game that doesn't learn and apply that, should be called out. Random battles are a waste of time and having an auto battle only slightly mitigates how obstructive they are to the flow of the game. Being into RPGs DOES NOT mean we have to accept shitty game design.
Also "old school masterpiece"? say that you have really bad taste in videogames and move on. Masterpiece my ass.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 lmao you are self centered af. Some people like how old rpgs used to be. This was literally marketed to old school suikoden fans. If you don’t like it that’s cool but to say old school rpgs aren’t popular anymore is just plain wrong 😂 (both octopath traveler games, sea of stars, chained echos etc) not to mention all the remasters lately like livealive and the suikoden remasters. You must be fun at partys. Every developer should cater their games to this guy!!! What a clown 🤡 what a joke 😂
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 THANK YOU!! I also started with old school JRPGs from the 90's and some of these defensive comments are absolutely pathetic. How cringe does someone have to be to call themselves a "Big Boy" for liking a certain game? This game needs a lot of QoL improvements. Just because it was done in the past, doesn't make it better game design.
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 So what if it's old tropes? The game is intended to be an homage to that era. If you go into a nostalgic game expecting a modern take, be prepared to be let down.
What!? What the hell is wrong with this guy? This game is suikoden 1 and 2 together. What did you expect ff7 rebirth kind of game?. Maybe on the switch runs bad but im playing it on my xbox and runs perfect. What were you expecting? Dont listen to this guy. This game is a gem. Sorry that he cant see it.
You are complaining about the same mechanics that have always been a part of the game and this series. Stop complaining and just enjoy what it is and what everyone loved about it.
This one of the dumbest takes, thank you for being dumb.
A new game should improve old mechanics. Just because they were used before, doesnt make them good
Well said !!! its Suikoden 1 & 2 all over again with a nice shiny 2024 fresh coat of paint. I'm just happy this game exist.
@@Ghisteslohm139not when you enjoyed the old mechanics. If it's not broke.
I cant wait to play
Talk about not knowing the source material. Complains about looking for the members to recruit, complains about equipment management, complains needing certain characters to have features at the base. These are all suikoden staples, which is the point of this game. To be a suikoden.
Thank you for your honest reviews! I hate when reviewers praise some games even if they are crap just to please the fans. Thanks again!!
Lol half of your complaints are things that have been a staple of the entire Suikoden series since the beginning. Aka individual Weapon upgrades, Castle upgrades being tied to the recruitable characters, etc. The recruits & finding them are basically the entire gimmick of the Suikoden series man! Everything relies on it!
Seriously, have you even played a Suikoden game before? If not then you're clearly not a person who should be reviewing this game... Know your strengths man, don't try to cater to an audience that doesn't suit you or what you're experienced with.
This game is amazing, switch version definitely has issues but it's not THAT bad. Hopefully they can patch it up.
Thank you for your honest review! I was really excited for this game, but I think I will just try it out on GamePass instead of getting it on Switch. Bit of a bummer as handheld is the best way to play these games.
Edit: Thank goodness for CZcamsrs who aren't afraid to critique. I played it on GamePass and glad I didn't spend $50 for the Switch version. It made me realize there is a reason that things evolve and why some of these design decisions are left in the past.
It was like every part of the game was designed to waste my time. I hate how slow and sluggish these "retro" JRPG's feel. You walk two seconds only to be bobared by unnecessarily long dialogue.
Walk another two seconds, random battle. Then you see what looks like a puzzle you want to solve yourself. NOPE! Enter another few rounds of cutscenes that could have been one shortened one. But noooooo. It lets you have control again, only to take it from you another two steps. And, of course, it plays ANOTHER round of exposition right before you can trigger the save point.
I won't even get to the janky walking and some of the NPC characters being completely still with no movement at all.
Wasnt having any hopes on the performances but still sucks to know its bad
Good review. There will be a lot of fan boys who will defend this game to the death. The issues you brought up are consistent with other recent reviews.
Ouch! I appreciate the raw honesty about the game's shortcomings. Quality of Life features like inventory and quest management can't be overlooked especially when the cast is so large. Performance shouldn't have been that hard to nail given the untaxing nature of the visuals.Will pass and hope that future patches make this at least an enjoyable experience.
After the great remake of star ocean 2 that showed how to make modern games with old material it's disappointed to see how eiyuden just did an old game,last year I replayed on my vita suikoden 1 and suikoden 2 and it's still great games but I don't know if I'll buy eiyuden next month since it's coming out next to paper mario...
It comes out Tuesday
@@mcoupe69 not the physical version
Quite the biased review.
This is the type of dude who complains about not knowing what his blind date looked like before he met up with her.
Bad review except for switch performance. Not sure what games does this reviewer likes and what was the research pre-trying this game.
why is it bad? because he didnt like it and pointed out flaws?
@@Ghisteslohm139they aren't flaws
@@Ghisteslohm139 they are not flaws - a lot of what was pointed out was by design in this game. It’s the same as complaining about Dark Soul’s difficulty when it’s made to be difficult. Felt uninformed on the source material and what the fans are looking for in this game.
@@Ghisteslohm139simp more for the channel dude.
Those aren’t flaws? They are for non suikodan junkies. Coming off UO, I’m not touching this one. Appreciate the review…
Your complaints are kind of ridiculous. Although I agree that the equipment swapping is pretty irritating.
Looks like you did not play Suik. series and don't like these kind of games in general. You should not review games like this in the future.
why? are only hardcore fans of a series allowed to review a game? which would make the review only helpful for other hardcore fans who would already buy the game anyway?
Hard disagree. Reviewers should be a representation of the average gamer. Obviously people who "like games like this" would look at it and want it.
I dont think you like theae aort of games do you? Why have someone review it when they dont enjoy these games
L take
Ooof
this is the worst review iv seen...maybe your a millenial
Wait, you still play games on the switch? Thought my toaster was more powerful at this point.
More expensive on the Nintendo Switch than the PS5 and its on Xbox gamepass.
Gamepass lol
Ok so they basically remade suikoden without any QoL changes... lol
What you call QOL, others enjoy as part of the mechanics….
Don't buy the game lol
well this sucks
Saved me 60 euros thank you. One thing is to mimic an old game ,but another ro have outdated mechanics . Probably i will get the gsme on steam after some patches and a discount
Have you played Chained Echoes on the switch, it plays and feels like and old school jrpg and the storyline is great
Out dated? Smooth brain take.
@@AyeThatsHandsomePete dude ,or whatever you are , what's your problem ? Did I address you ? Why you do ? . Continue playing games with random encounters every 15 seconds and feel smart then .
@@lrd233encounter rate is nowhere near as bad as older RPG’s lol
@@superblanco444 well I discuss what the reviewer said , if you played the game and you say it's fine , that's good . Unfortunately the '' play the game and have your own opinion '' is not that easy anymore due to cost issues .
Also if you want my opinion ,random encounters ARE outdated . The fact that I love jrpgs does not mean that I accept everything they have to offer and random encounters is definitely something that I am tired of ,especially when they occur every few seconds .
Recently I played etrian odyssey 1 hd again and in the later levels there was literaly one random encounter every 8-10 tiles that I walked . It was frustrating to say the least but I could excuse it because the game was old . In a new game .... Well not that much even if the selling point is mimicking an older title
Well all of this sounds very disappointing
performance is much better on the ps5 and xbox