Dutch Barge Linda #17 I Start Stripping and find water where it shouldn’t be!
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- čas přidán 23. 10. 2020
- This is the first video of the restoration of DeVrouwe Linda in London. Not sure how to make restoration videos, so bare with me while I figure this out!
Interesting first glance!
My humble thoughts:
-Strip to the bare hull completely and take on the metalwork first and thoroughly or it may bite you later. Find out if the hull is steel or iron, if it is iron you need a good welder, if it is steel you can catch an elektrode welding machine for
Thank you, thank you , thank you!
I’m in two minds about everything at the moment but it is becoming clearer that stripping the boat out and getting all the steel work done is becoming the only next step forward. You’ll be glad to know, as it was one of my first question when I bought the boat, whether it was steel. It is steel. In the Netherlands after 1910 all boats were made of steel. So DeVrouwe Linda is one of the earlier examples of steel manufactured boats. I did stick welding in my youth and I intends on doing a load of welding myself. Though maybe not the hull though...
As for the separate bilges, I thought this too, as I’ve seen the cut outs in the ribs (I didn’t know they were called stringers) on other Dutch barges I’ve inspected and my own narrowboat, but I think the installation of the new bottom may have sealed them up!
Vlakkenvet! Is that what it is called! I was told about this but didn’t remember the name. I was also told about using Linseed oil or a linseed/ motor oil mix is popular in the Netherlands also. I painted a patch of the bilge over a year ago with linseed to see how it goes. But as the grease is what has been on the steel thus far, I might go with that again. Thank you!
Ballast it will have to be look at, I’m not too familiar with this. The weight of the tanks, even empty is huge. Taking them out will leave the front of the boat quite heavy, but if I go electric and use lead acid batteries then i might find I have plenty of ballast. Before all of that, I have to learn how to sail!!!!!!
I have though, about different positions for the entrance to the engine room. Because I’m going to have to weld a door for it. I have toyed with the idea of moving the cabin door to the side rather than the middle as well.
Narrowboats are narrow, but sailing Dutch Barges are lower! God giveth with one hand and taketh with the other..... It’s funny how some of my design thoughts are influenced by narrowboat space saving!
I agree pray foam is the best way insulate and protect the steel, but I love the rivet and I really wish I didn’t have to cover them up! I saw a boat with no insulation and was used in the summer only and the interior was beautiful with all the rivets on show. I have thought of a way around this. Leather/Vinyl covered foam cushions that fit over the walls in the winter. Would require a mountain of upholstery. The boat’s interior may look like a bordello in winter and the Titanic’ s steerage in the summer.
Moving Linda on the cut is a pleasure once I learned NOT to drive her like a narrowboat. Now I gracefully waft by in a cloud of 1970”s diesel fumes and love having my photo taken everywhere I go!
Thank you so much for this. You’ve helped me make up my mind about stripping her and getting the steel work looked at first.
@@canicebannon Thanks! if you provide a (temporary) email address then I can send you a link to a page with the restoration I did. Maybe it helps (I have no idea how to direct message on CZcams)
There is also an English site about Dutch barges with interesting information...
I’ve just found this comment. Oops! I’m so sorry! So I’ve set up this email address. Email is dutchbargelinda@gmail.com. I’m so looking forward to seeing this! Thank you.
The letters and numbers you uncovered on the outside are the original hull measurement numbers, I also found some on my old Dutch barge. There is an official Dutch website where you can look them up and find out details about the hull (size, material, where it was made, dates of significant changes, etc.).... Good luck. Your trip across looked wonderful.
Hello Growing Trees! I go through all this and discover its Nazi past. Check it out, #25.
You're restoration videography is just fine! Channels like yours thrive when personality-driven. Rest assured your project is interesting, and you're an inherently interesting person, so invent your personal idiom as you go. For technical advice, reach out to CZcamsrs you think do a good job. That's what "Answers with Joe" aka Joe Scott does, and he's going to hit 1 million subs early next year. I regret Linda has more surprises than you expected. Doing new work in an old boat is probably the same as doing it in old houses; it's the stuff you don't even know about yet that will slurp up resources and challenge you creatively. I hope you can look at it the same way I did when you got around to that heat exchanger: "Well, at least he'll have plenty of fodder for ongoing videos." I worry about you getting depressed living amidst rusty chaos for too long. If that happens, mention it as part of the restoration process and you'll be surprised at the support you'll get! Peace and health, Mr. Bannon.
Thank you so much Jeff, This so useful to me. I know in my head that your 100% correct, but there is that hesitation as my finger hovers over the go “Public’ button before I press it! Confidence is so important to this process, I am so grateful for your supportive words. I have been a subscriber to Joe’s videos for a long time now and his new video’s talking about his feelings over the last few months of the pandemic are such a comfort to those of us dealing with the fallout or negative effects, economic and otherwise. The whole point of this channel is for me to learn, document and entertain. Oh, and something to do during lock downs!!!! You are so right about the future DISASTER VIDEOS! There will be no shortage of videos about things go wrong and me jumping with glee when it’s caught on camera, no matter how expansive it is!!!! Hahahaha!
Thank you again Jeff, for being my so supportive.
Canice
@@canicebannon You're so welcome, and I can't wait for future disaster videos. Can you doubt they'll end up being your best and most popular?
Hahaha! Terrifying, but true!
Nice video! You do is right! The hole on the side has been there for at least 35 years. In early times during "heavy sailing", the water came in also, but we could not find a leak and thought the mastfoot was the problem.
An idea for the watertanks. In the hold of the ship, you need space for living, so maybe you can install the tanks in the forepeak of the ship. In early times, Chris Kabel had plastic watertanks in the forepeak as well. These steel water has been build in ±20 years ago.
Hi Hans,
That’s amazing!
So, you and Chris had no idea the hole was there? Hahahaha Love it!
I was thinking about having the tanks in the front as well but then I was concerned about having too much weight in the front of the boat. My mind is not made up just yet. Did the tanks go in just after the bottom was replaced?
Lots of slow steady work ahead. Thanks for sharing
Thank you! You’re Welcome.
Interesting strip-down and fit-out Julian. First time I’ve seen a vlog about a barge. I hope to be doing a fit-out myself on a 57-foot NB shell in the near future. I look forward to watching your journey.
I seem to be the only one doing a vlog about a Dutch Barge at the moment. 57 foot, best size, you’ve done your research. Mine narrowboat is the same.
I found you on Instagram.
Looking forward to see your progress I’m way behind you, so I’ll be watching with interest.
@@canicebannon I've not really started yet. Hopefully, when this 3rd solitary confinement communist-country house arrest affair is relaxed, I will be able to get on with things. 😉
Great project Canice.......you're going to know every inch of that boat.....that hole on the side might come in handy for kitchen sink discharge or maybe you're putting in holding tanks?.....best of luck with all the work.....keep the videos coming....
Hi James, definitely more to come. Still weighing up the choices of holding tank or composting toilet, but at the moment holding tank with onboard pump out looks like the preferred option.... as always subject to change depending on the moods of the weather or whatever nonsense in my head takes my fancy!!!!!!
And no insulation - must have been cold. Lovely boat.
Hi Alister. There is insulation in some areas of the boat and not inn others. It wasn’t used to live in other than in the summer for holidays and leisure. The boat is an interesting mix of clever engineering solutions and design ideas that take a while to figure out why certain things were done! On the limited time I spent on the boat in winter, it’s fine as long as the fire doesn’t go out, then the temperature drops like a stone!!!!
Good plan, So you should be pumping out of both tanks simultaneously to maintain balance, or you will be listing to one side when you least expect it. Don't ya know....
The new water tank solution is a moving target at the moment, but whichever layout ends up in the boat there will be pipes that self balance the tanks by using cross feeds. In a narrow boat
port/starboard balancing act is always an ongoing fight due to its 6’10’ beam, thankfully on a wide beam, less so. Unless you’re sailing, in which case, will lead to that sinking feeling 😂😂😂!!!!
Of course I could be wrong about every thing I’ve just wrote. Ignorance is bliss and expensive!
One would think a pipe sticking out of the hull with no associated plumbing fixtures behind it would be something that would raise interest during a survey. "Hmm, what does this connect to, or is it capped off?
The Dutch surveyors are more focused on failures, than writing a detailed report. For example my survey was two pages of what’s wrong and a statement saying everything else is fine. In the UK you could have twenty pages detailing all that’s good, bad and ugly. I’m not under any illusion about what I may find going forward, but it doesn’t matter, its about the restoration. It would be boring otherwise...
Couldn't you use the hole in the side as an outlet for the shower? Put a whale gulper under the seating? Just a thought.
Maybe, It’s likely I will have saddle tanks for water in the gunwales where the hole is now. So, for access I might have the outlet somewhere I can get to it. Nothing is decided as yet! Thanks for watching Julian!