Daigo's NEW Hitbox Controller is CRAZY | Street Fighter 6
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2023
- Daigo Umehara's new hitbox controller is crazy! He added 3 new buttons on his custom hitbox. Daigo Ken sf6 is about to get crazy! daigo optimized his ken combos. Daigo ken sf6 combos. the 3 buttons daigo umehara the beast added for his hitbox are the option button, R3, and L3. He uses it for Drive parry, drive impact and ken's command dash in street fighter 6. The beast is optimal with ken in street fighter 6.
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The ppl i get matched against in casual after working all day:
there fr needs to be employed and unemployed lobbies for every fg lmao
FnFR bro. Employed and unemployed lobbies is a good idea lol
The amount of demons in casual play practicing the shit they’ll never do in comp is too high
😂😂😂😂 right on 🎉
Facts
Bro almost invented a keyboard. Best of luck to him
Hes a professional. Long ass time playing those controllers
some people can type with less buttons
Keyless board
Keyboards have a limit for the amount of buttons you can map inputs to. Also they don't connect to consoles so yk.
Hahahah
"this controller is legal, do you think it‘s legal?" Yes dora, i think it‘s legal.
I mean its a valid question since controller debates are a big deal in fighting games, Having the k+k could arguably be seen as a macro wich is really controversial in the community.
@@sebastianbell8326the question should be “do you think this controller SHOULD be illegal” because the video proved that it’s already legal. They’re basically asking us if we think coffee is black.
@@sebastianbell8326 You don't know what a macro is
@@sebastianbell8326 It's not an illegal macro if you can bind it in the in-game settings. A normal pad with 4 back-paddles has 12 easily accessible attack buttons. The only difference with Daigo's hitbox is where those buttons are placed.
You’re so red pilled you forgot that we the community can decide wether it’s legal
*explains why the controller is tournament legal
"do you think the controller is tournament legal?"
amazing
By extrapolation, Daigo has a specific Hitbox Controller for each of his Mains
Except it has 15 buttons
@@Modragalica1as long as it's only 11 attack buttons right?
@@BSHK808 prob
@@Modragalica111 for attack and 4 for movements
1000th like
When you play Sreet Fighter after a busy day:
- Ok, I'm going back to work...
Fuck, why is that so accurate. Sf stresses me out as much if not more than work sometimes...and that's saying something
MFs like this sometimes just ruin gaming for me.
The real question is, why is this the game you’re choosing to enjoy after working a long day ? 😂 SF is literal rage inducing…
@@miguelcuevas7224And takes crazy huge amount of skill to compete against players who know what they're doing or playing arcade mode in the highest difficulty.
You arent getting matched with Daigo. Hitboxes arent making bad players good, its moreso a slight enhancer so the better player regardless of controls will win. You can do socd on controller. Rank points exist. Smurfers are your only potential problem.
This was how everyone reacted to Street Fighter's six-button layout back in 1991.
tf are you talking about
@@therealwillsmith The snes had a six button controller.
I like the genesis six button controller.
@@Fabulos1i had one of those
No..???
So he hás a Button for throws,a Button for a command dash and a Button to make Justin have PTSD
As a Ken main, I see this as an absolute win
Faceroll with the fire wielding troll. Nah I love ya Kwens!
Ken needs massive nerfs to his jabs, they take too much priority
@@deanbrooks7297 honestly, a rush down character should have strong jabs. All of them have fast high priority moves
Ken mains just see DP as a button
@@deanbrooks7297priority isnt a thing homie
Stop watching dsp
99% of the cast has jabs at 4frame startup, the differences being their range
What makes cammy and ken have such godly jabs isnt anything like 'priority' its that they have long range
Yes, I think it's tournament legal, I mean, you just explained it is 😅
Before i explained, did you think it was legal?
@@FGCCentralthey really had the balls to not respond
@@nexu9087might not have gotten a notification.
@@FGCCentral I mean I know that the only real criteria it needs to make that I can't easily figure out by looking at it is if it's SOCD compliant. Once you explained that, yes.
U look bad
now there's gonna be that one mf in a friend group that brings this controller to a friendly match
That one friend who explains all the frame data and metagame evolution and historic balance changes for their character after you say "no way you hit me with that" during a friendly match
I mean I had thumb surgery, and have a few other health issues.
I use leverless pads for many reasons.
@souls what’s wrong with that? If it’s tournament legal and does what the rules say. There is no problem bringing it. I play better on a leverless. I’m decent on the fight stick and on a game pad. So I’ll use equipment that I see more improvement with.
@@LockesTTV Yeah that's pretty much what that friend would say when anyone brings it up lmao
@@rubenbohorquez5673 Maaan, it's wild that Lock unironically proved your point by defending it. 😂😂😂
Daigo's apprentice: Master what is the secret to Fighting Games?
Daigo: normalcy is fading, add more buttons!
I want extra buttons on my fight stick for this exact reason
Same here... New sticks for PS5 need to include the trackpad,R3, L3 as 30mm face buttons ..
Luckily arcade sticks are very easy to make👍
you can easily play without them.
its just skill issue
@@TakehisaYuji yes I can, that doesn’t mean i don’t want extra buttons to make it easier for me.
@3axapTY that or I just want a safer way to input certain commands in order to expand my options.
The only thing surprising to me about this controller is the character specific button for kens command dash lol thats commitment
I mean i already have my left trigger as 3 kicks so that gives command dash too. I thought that was a common thing? Also im not a ken player in this game and i use 3 kicks and 3 punches for l1 and l2 so i have OD buttons
Well it can be remapped for other characters as well.
@@WeirdEdz yea on ur generic controller this mfer had a button added custom for his command dash
@@the_last_rangergeneric? By that concept all new age controllers are breaking the rules Atari and Nintendo had set of just one button or two buttons. Fighting games always increased button requirements. In fact Marvel Vs Capacom 2 should of been 8 buttons! 6 attack, buttons and 2 switch out buttons. A majority of games now are multi tasking buttons for commands that you are basically doing Naruto Hand signs trying to use all the command features for fighting games.
@lorenexus4917 I wouldn't say new age controllers are breaking the rules. The Nintendo amd atari weren't the standard for tournaments back then. It was arcade cabinets.
"these are all the reasons why this keyboard is completely and entire legal and within regulations"
"Do you think this keyboard is legal?"
What is this bro? Dora the explorer?
😅😂🫡🤓
I used to do this for Tekken with the r1 and r2 buttons for double stuff. People got mad. It is a legit button control scheme.
Having a controller dedicated to a single character to do “optimal” commands is crazy to me.
there are tons of gamecube controller analog stick notches modified for specific angles for fox/falco in smash melee 😂
When you have 10's, 1,000's, 10,000's, 100,000's, 1,000,000 dollars on the line. It seems like a perfectly logical move.
@@professoryorick5676aren't those also the steepest angles for any moves you can aim as well though?
How many characters do people normally competitively play with? Two? Three if you're good.
@@snoopyguy21most rational players (i.e anyone who isn't a character specialist) will have a main, secondary for bad matchups and MAYBE a pocket pick for specific players (last one applies for tippy top players mostly)
Daigo’s always up to his shenanigans 💀
I think one situation where this meme is valid is when your opponent beats you and then trash talking you in text/voice chat. Or perhaps in team games where your team members are getting mad at you.
Daigo has been legit for years. I wouldn’t question if he’s following tournament regulations since this is his life. Let the Beast cook!
Bro loves that loud ass bell noise
Legal or not, it does look a controller perfect for a Ken player. It's as aggressive as it looks lol
Problem is Daigo plays Ken like Ryu.
this actually makes a lot more sence on why i get my teeth kicked in, in every online fighting game
It's tournament legal because he's actually following the controller rules. Also it's incredibly impressive when people have such passion for fighting games, they make their own custom controller. Brilliant and awesome.
ikr! Custom controller give members so the fgc opportunities to showcase their creativity!
"The controller is tournament legal. Do you think the controller is tournament legal?" 😂
Dedicated buttons and shortcut configurations is a art I just recognized..when you really understand how you like to play it can make your gameplay more fluid overall
彼は運指を訓練するためにベースギターを弾くことを学び始めました。
That controller would probably control me and not the character I'm playing😂
That dude is the ruler of his own universe 🫡
*explains how its tournament legal*
"do you think that its tournament legal?"
*Asks a question*
*says the answer right after*
*Asks the question again*
Explains how Daigo's new controller is legal then asks Do you thinks this is tournament legal? Doesn't really matter what we think since according to the rules made is that it's legal.
Using a Hitbox is a game changer. I play Tekken and it gives the cleanest inputs out of every controller I've used before (Was on stick and pad for years).
how about the tekken backdash or sidedash? does it feel "natural" once u get used to do it on hitbox?
@@martincpt204 So much easier. I haven’t had any problems having to KBD
nah, i tried and went back to my arcade, never felt my hands tired playing so little time
interesting. i was thinking about getting a Hitbox for Tekken. How is it doing forward dashes and quarter circles back and forward motions?
I played tekken and all other fighting games using keyboard my whole life. Just bought rac j800b, and waiting for package arriving. I'll be finally able to enjoy SF6 and Tekken 8 when released on my xbox.
“Is it tournament legal? Yes. Do you think it’s tournament legal?”
Bro is creating his own Modern Controls
I'm beginning to wonder if there should be some standardization in controllers.
Literally impossible. You can play with the keyboard, with gamepads, arcade sticks, and any variation of those you can come up with. Any attempt to standardization will piss someone off.
@@every_username_is_taken The standardization means things like 'One button= one input to the game' which is not how one of the buttons works. One of the buttons is essentially a macro button.
@@Folsomdsf2 most if not all fgc tournaments prohibit hardware modifications like macros, but only a % of players actually compete thus there's no way for companies to actually control what kit you're using in the comfort of your home. It's actually even a bit contradictory because the companies that push for some sort of standardization usually allow you in their games to set up dedicated buttons for commands made of two inputs, like throws and parries in Street Fighter.
Possible for competitive tournaments only.
Yes. 6 buttons.
I'ma have arthritis in my hands playing with that lol
The button layout makes it more ergonomic & less stressful on joints than other controllers.
funny thing is, back when i first discovered emulators back in 2014, i was only using keyboards as a controller because until about 2018 or 19, bluetooth controllers were hard to come by. these hitboxes are just light keyboards.
dunno about tournaments, but it is definitively polka legal
It’s like an automatic vs standard. I’m a fan of traditional arcade sticks.
because you don't understand.
@@BaStAgE Or maybe he has better execution than you and enjoys the challenge without binding moves to s single button.
At this point just plug in a keyboard bro 😂
Ps5 compatibility
A brook wingman has too much input delay added and ps5s dont have native keyboard support
@@V2ULTRAKill i'm sure what he said was definitely not a joke
Keyboard isn't as comfortable and there's also the compatability issue.
*explains why the controller is legal* "do you think this controller is legal"
Diago looked like he aged 20 years since the last time i seen him
prly cause he did, he in his 40s soon?
@@somtamtim梅原は42歳
Doesn't matter if it's tournament legal or not. Dude gonna shred with or without. 😂
This is like putting macro configs on the shoulder buttons of a regular controller. Helped a lot in anime fighters.
u just dont get it do you
@@BaStAgE I don't see any issues with it.
@@BaStAgEno they exsctly get it. You dont get it.
i needed an elite controller of xbox for xbox 360 to play armored core 4 and V, because in 4 i were using like 8 fingers to move my mech, i find a way after playing VD to match something more confortable, to put the attack buttons on the triggers instead the X and A buttons, and it were way better, but still need those back buttons to move me better with my mech.
The armored core grip for the controller not enough in 4 and 5?
Explains why its legal.
Then asks, is it legal?
Left bottom down in a row and thumb on jump is genius
Just like a spacebar haha!
i seen this guy play in SF before, i don’t know anything about competitive fighting games but my friends brought me along and it was crazy to see how good he and others are at SF
Man that's to many buttons 😂
thats nt the point
it makes it so easy to execute them
as keyboard
im a dota player and i can use about 13 keys + mouse
it's only an extra 3 buttons for macros
It's clearly tournament legal, but it does strike me as a case of adhering to the letter of the rules while potentially going against the spirit of said rules. I wouldn't be surprised if the rules are tightened up going forward.
I think it will depend if daigo wins haha!
@@FGCCentralIf he does. How many matches he's won would also definitely account for that.
I don't think it's really "against the spirit of the rules". 9-10 attack buttons on a hitbox isn't that uncommon. he just added 1 more.
it's not like he was abusing a loophole or technicality.
I hope they are, most esports don't allow macro keys (they're considered cheating, lazy, and poor sportsmanship), I don't see why fighting games are any different.
@@bohlam6c It's not the number of buttons it's that the controller uses what are at least arguably essentially macros. The hitbox was already kind of questionable in that regard IMHO.
If I hadn't seen this video, I would've thought it was legal purely because it's Daigo we're talking about.
If that man needed to cheat, we'd all be doomed...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts man!
You should have seen one of his first hitbox mods that got Capcom to implement the SOCD & Button rules. Google diago's banned hitbox and look for this black one with a single gold button, The thing looks so DIY and honestly hilarious cursed controller material compared to this clean looking "Legal Ken" model. That scuffed thing was enough to get Capcom to add an entire new ruleset to tournament play. I might not be remembering it right but I'm pretty sure he even mentioned that it was intentional to attract attention for the Capcom cup to add new rules.
Love the hitbox, being able to do a standing 720⁰ super with Zangief just feels good
Good stuff!
How the fuck do you do that with this controller?😮
@@Fenris30 you can string the inputs faster than the jump takes to register.
@@amalaspina its still really hard lol
That's really impressive bro. On Keyboard (same concept) I usually fuck up the SPD motion or HC motion because I miss ONE true "down" input in the motion, everything else is perfect.
As a result, I have to linger on true DOWN for a hair longer, so my inputs aren't just B, DB, DF, F.
Ken run button is dope
Its legal because its the exact same as a regular xbox or ps5 controller. Only reason for the extra 3 buttons is to reduce user error from having to press 2 buttons for parry, drive impact and throw. Throw button a bit excessive.
I think it should be, heightening the skill ceiling like this benefits everyone, even the spectators as it leads to higher level play
If it meets all the requirements then I don’t see why it wouldn’t be legal
“Only eleven attack triggers”
Yep the other 4 is directional inputs
😂😂
This is going to become industry standard for lots of fighting or high combo games.
Imagine asking this question like 10 years ago.
I play using hitbox and that is brilliant!
These boys going after that millI HARD
As long as it work like a controller, it being shapped different ahouldnt be a problem.
Modern controls on steroids lol
???
@@xol9331modern controlls basically do the imputs for moves for u so u just press a button for a hadoken for example iirc its new for sf6
If anything it's classic in steroids
@@barnabasdouglas8219 yeah, hitbox is still classic as in you still need to do motion inputs to do moves. The left three buttons are motion buttons and the right eight are attacks.
@@spicyrumohe literally has buttons that ignore the necessary input.
Just plug hardwire Daigo's brain 🧠 in and he will beat everybody.
loudest BINGS ever Jesus christ
@FGCCentral why did you like this
It's fine. Let Daigo live.
one step close to playing on keeb 😂
the socd clean rule definitely made this more accepting, i also do combination shortcuts cause i use it too and i think that's ok
How does he even remember which is which ? I’d fold my Ken in half trying to figure out a punch with that 😂
He made it himself so he's got to know the buttons 😂
The homie is already the beast! And beating everyone he has faced. He’s just looking to make the game inputs easier for him. Keep beating kids up I say. Best of luck to you the beast!
Tournament legal and fair use is 2 different things
Fair point
Keyboard inventer: "told you it was the most usable for more than just writing"
Daigo mastered the arcade stick, maybe he likes using the new stick
I thought that was a sign in braille bold font
I remember back when Daigo was using Guile in SF4 they busted him because his hitbox wasn't socd cleared. He could be charging sonic booms at all times.
wat
You're talking about SF5 lol.
@@smoothsavage2870 you're right. I couldn't remember. But my point is still the same.
@@LM77va That's true. But I think he figured out how to do it within the rules this time.
SF6 already SOCD cleans inputs
Which is great haha! No need to spend on expensive boards haha
Hardware SOCD settings can bypass this though, for instance holding left and inputting right can cause the board to send only right.
So it seems like the only thing you need is clean SOCD and 11 attack buttons Max. And you can have your buttons mapped pretty much anything
Pure genius ofc best ken player
They are all in game menu shortcuts. You could bind all these shortcuts on a normal ps5 pad and no none would raise an eyebrow
The sweat on this man is Incredible
Screw that play legit not cheap
Dudes finna start a regular show episode irl
It's not illegal but it's definitely pushing the boundaries and maybe something that leads to rule changes
Imagine using this and still lose
it's perfectly fine because when you think about it it's super hard to use the controller knowing that you have to memorize the buttons by muscle memorie and since it has all the right components not going over limit with the buttons it's fine
The guys fingers she tells you not to worry about.
I would only raise a brow to the KK button, other than that looks pretty legal to me
KK is a macro in the games so its legal haha
@@FGCCentral lol good to know. Regarding fighting games I’m entirely casual so wasn’t sure on legality of that, I guess if everyone uses it then no brows should’ve been raised
He's so good already that this is just not fair. As if he needs another advantage.
Thank you
It’s convenience and not really an advantage if everyone can build the controller they like lol. You‘re free to do it yourself instead of whining 😂
@@bigboyfinesse8310 listen two button presses are two buttons presses. So human error is involved and the possibility of not pressing buttons correctly simultaneously when in battle is always present. Even with pros like Daigo it happens. Removing that error possibility by turning two buttons into one is definitely advantageous. Especially when the hit boxes also remove the diagonals. That's even more of an advantage. So let's say if Daigo's failure rate on executing moves is less than 10% well the now his hitbox drops in half if not altogether. Hitboxes for a player like me mean nothing cause I'm not that good. But in the hands of an elite pro like Daigo it's a huge advantage. Playing with customized Hit boxes with more buttons and the removal of analog controls is cheating. There's no other way to look at it.
@@Shinobi33 as long as there are players that literally prefer a stick over a hitbox or some kind of mixbox it will be totally fine to me and no reason to criticize it. dont see the point in whining about it. all it does is restrict players in playing the game the way they like it. not everyone wants to learn to play with a hitbox.
@@bigboyfinesse8310 doesn't matter. It's not an issue of preference it's about cheating. Hitboxes with 11,12 buttons is cheating
You gotta a give him credit. He sure does try to bend these rules to their limits. Keep it up Daigo.
as long as he is initiating all button presses, yeah legal.
"Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power" -m&kb user
Amen mkb superiority
Nah. Most keyboard and mouse setups don't even have n-key rollover, much less 11 key rollover.
@@MansMan42069 yeh.
@mansman2167 nah we have programmable 9 key on the mouse and 69 buttons that can be mapped. The mouse is far more accurate than any controller and accelerates so fast that console people think we're cheating.
@@rabbidninja79 >mouse
>fighting game
My guy, what are you aiming at in a fighting game?
🤦♂️
My condolences to your parents for having given birth to you.
I feel like players should be on same input device. Box players like to claim they don't have an advantage but common sense says otherwise
I don't think it's that cut and dry. Box players have certain advantages but they also have to deal with certain drawbacks (namely managing the button layout). As long sd everyone has the option to use the same control devices, I think there's room for preferences.
@@user-do2ev2hr7h tbf idc if people play on box or fight pad or a console controller, but in a tournament setting I feel it should be universal everybody decides on one. I do believe that box once you get used to your setup is much more accurate and consistent than controller
@@user-do2ev2hr7hstill, technically they can optimize their button placements, and the one mentioned in the ideo even has a shortcut. By definition, it is giving them an advantage
@@CLOUDY_macthen why not ban pads lol. Why ban the input device that you say works better in almost every way
@@LoadPast I'll refer you to the second comment in the thread lol
I don't know much about Street Fighter competitive scene (or even the game itself), but I think they should probably add a rule for disallowing macro built into controller or software.
the macro was built in the game and you can select it from the game options
The throw button should have been on its own third row above the index but well played Daigo, well played.
Thats just a keyboard
He just made a controller that uses modern control mode by default. Lmao
Nah
How is it modern
Why does it matter what I think when it’s clearly tournament legal 😂😂
Hopefully the double kick button doesn’t become controversial
But there are 15 buttons 💀
It does specifically say 11 attack buttons not all buttons in general
Cpt allows 11 attack buttons and only 4 directional buttons for character movement
@@saturnsgodv1@FGCCentral my bad i understand
MenaRD is the new king of Street Fighter. He uses a standard PS5 gamepad. He will smash Daigo with his Blanka Power.
"Do you think this tournament legal controller is tournament legal." Yes, water is water.