Kyle , you drive the heck out of cars from every angle! To speed to value to efficiency, just really appreciate all your channels I follow them all! Thanks for doin what you do!
Honestly the most impressive feature for me was the phone charging pad cooling. That’s amazing. So many others just end up overheating the phone and throttling back the charging to the point of being useless. Hope more automakers pick this up.
What a great detailed review! I would love to see a comparison with the 2024 BMW X5 50e PHEV, especially how the handling, throttle response, electric/ICE power transition, and brake feel compare
How plug-in hybrids work is if you want the engine to kick in gradually at low speeds and avoid engine kickdown from cold is to use regen at 80-100% where the engine comes on even at 20mls/hr
Seat/seat belt sensors, that's how they get the 2 person demographic. The same sensors can also report how many people are onboard - in case of a collision, the vehicle can call the emergency services.
Another great review Kyle 👏🏻 The future EV Cayenne is going to be a big seller. I bet they’ll put that same dash with actual buttons for the climate etc in the updated Taycan.
I'm a 100% on board with prefering non-coupe SUV's, but I think they did a better job styling the rear end of the 2024 Coupe vs the regular version. Moving the license plate to such a low point kinda gives it a visually heavy look, especially on lighter paint colors.
My wife had a 2019 Cayenne e-hybrid and after 40,000 miles the high voltage battery failed, fortunately under warranty. The repair process took 6 months! Kyle - do you know if this new version can limit the maximum battery charge like most electrics. I suspect her battery failed because she charges at home and again at work so 2 full charge cycles a day. She could have partially charged and made the same trip, perhaps this would have been easier on the battery. I realize the hybrid batteries have a few kwhr of built in headroom but can it be programed for a less than "full" charge? Thanks for the nice review.
That doesn't count as 2 full charge cycles unless she used the vast majority of the capacity. But it sounds like it sat at 100% other than maybe a few hours a day, which would be far from ideal. I would expect that a PHEV would be designed with BIG buffers "top and bottom" to mitigate this. It could also be that the battery never got run down "low" to appropriately balance? That seems less likely... Whatever happened, Porsche ate the cost and hopefully is learning how to prevent it on other vehicles
Very sad to hear about the virtual kick down being gone. My 2023 has that and it’s great, although I wish I had it in hybrid mode as well as e power. Also, the brakes are my biggest gripe. My 23 has steels and it has the same pulsing, grabby brakes when stopping. It really sucks. It’s my biggest fault with the car. On the plus side, we just did nearly 1,600 miles on a tank so even with the older, smaller pack, there is plenty of range and quick charging for daily use.
PHEVs in the real world reduce petrol consumption by 80-90% for most owners, and eliminate the need to put public chargers everywhere. The need for an extremely heavy $$ battery is negated. The need to alter your schedule to conform to your car's charging needs goes away.
I wish Toyota showed more of a desire to sell the car as they have not publicized any move to increase production even though demand remains sold out for months or even years. It’s almost as if Toyota is annoyed that the PHEV is as popular as it is in favor of just selling more ICE RAV4s
We have a RAV4 Prime, and in EV mode you can put the pedal to the floor and get to 86 mph before the ICE comes on… very peppy in EV mode, too… sounds like Toyota designed the PHEV drivetrain better than Porsche has … oh, and we got our RAV4 prime for < 1/3 the price of the 2024 cayenne e-hybrid
(38:05) ... Porsche screwed this up in two ways: (1) they should allow you to floor it and stay in all-electric mode when in E-Power (provided you have enough charge in the traction battery) all the way to 86 mph, just like Toyota has done with their RAV4 Prime; and (2) they should allow one-pedal driving option like Volvo does in their PHEVs now. Porsche should allow one-pedal optional driving in ALL their EVs (PHEVs & BEVs); no excuse for not doing so.
I don't understand your complaint at 32:00 onward when you're in Hybrid mode that the ICE kicks in at a certain point. That's what hybrid driving IS! If you want it to function like an EV, drive in E-Power mode! Or am I missing something?
Like Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. And like them, Alyssa does it all backwards and in heels. The old-timers will know what I'm talking about. Well done you two!!
I would like to know if you can have the ac or heat going all night while you sleep inside the vehicle, similar to 'camp' mode on a Tesla. To me, that is the only reason I would buy a PHEV, the ability to sleep in a climate controlled space without the engine having to start every 30 minutes to charge up the battery.
Based on the rear trunk video, it appears that the e-hybrid does not have a spare? Did I miss something? That would be consistent with many other plug-in hybrids. Excellent series overall. Thanks.
The only deal breaker for me - the interior is available only in all black or in base black. That may sound nitpicky, but many of us prefer light interiors and when you start paying upwards of $100K for a vehicle you should be able to get it exactly how you want it.
@@cbatiau2528 yes it is true! Don’t spout off before you go onto Porsche’s website and see for yourself, troll. Every interior offered is either all-black or something else that is two-toned in black. Want a beige interior? If so then ONLY the upholstery becomes beige. The carpeting, door panels, ceiling liner, upper dash, lower dash, and cargo compartment all remain black. Great if you like dark interiors. Not great if you want something else.
Hi @kyleconner, I am evaluating the 2024 Cayenne hybrid vs the 2024 BMW X5 50e hybrid. Which one do you recommend? Apart from drive, dynamics, performance, etc., I am concerned that the Porsche doesn't have sufficient trunk/boot space for a family. Is the Porsche that much better than the BMW to do without the extra trunk space? Thanks.
Get the bmw, i have 530e custom build with all the options you can think of and its the best car i have owned. i wish it had b58 but fortunately the x5 does so you are lucky there.
Did you do a review of the arteon phev you drove in Germany? I know you did a video round the nurburgring in it but wondered how that compared round town in full electric to something like this given the smaller motor and engine combo?
I wish car makers would get away from the phone style interface. Having to swipe and find the right “app” is annoying in a car. Not a Tesla fanboy but their layout is so much more intuitive. The controls are all laid out like virtual hard buttons, navigation is always visible, climate is always visible, (same with heated seats/wheel/media, etc) everything is on the home screen. Less used functions like AP settings, safety toggles etc are in a menu but well laid out. Potentially more used things like mirrors, wheel adjustment, etc are in the first page that comes up by default when bringing up the menu.
I'm confused as to what you're saying about accelerating and not knowing when the ICE will come on in E-Power mode (35:30-38:20) ... Our RAV4 Prime in EV mode will keep the ICE off with the accelerator pedal to the floor all the way to 86 mph ... If Toyota can make this happen, why can't Porsche? I thought that Porsche had an electric-only "flooring" mode in their E-Hybrids, in which you can floor the pedal from stop and get the 7- or 8-second 0-60 mph figure without the ICE coming on... (?)
I was surprised those solar beam chargers I read only have 43kWh internal batteries max (some with only 22 or 32kWh). Doesn't seem very practical to drivers, unless you were able to link them up together to share storage across multiple units... And even a trickle grid connection that kicks on under specific conditions could help a ton. Seems like a device designed to soak up "free" green grants/subsidies/money and provide little actual value to real EV drivers. Those things can't be cheap.
At least you were in Malibu, and not in Ventura, where they paint the bike lanes a beautiful, dark green, but they couldn't care less, if all of us driving cars, hit the pot holes!
Bring Back Big Beautiful Buttons - touchscreens are for phones, NOT cars. Also, these new cars are so incredibly complex that I think they have no future as used cars. They may be OK for the first three years, but I imagine a future world of nothing but abandoned expensive vehicles, unable to be fixed. Hardly environmentaly friendly in the long term.
He says "It's not the nicest engine in the world, but it gets the job done"!!! First of all, with which engines does he compare it with? Nobody buys this car just to get his job done for God's sake!
In the comment section of other video about this cayenne model i read that the front looks like a person with botox lips and a stretched face, cant unsee it now
Theorem: A man who uses “juicy” as an adjective for enthusiastic approval => A man who is very “douchey”. Isn’t the cost reduced exposed “Porsche” logo a complete PITA dirt and filth collector?
Flabbergasted by all these incompetent comments about a Porsche where the quality and feel of the interieur is absolutely HORRIBLE. Just received my 2024 Cayenne Hybrid, my 4th Cayenne and I have 10 Porsches running. The price tag was 153.000€.......What happened at the Porsche Interior department ??? The interior looks like a cheap Skoda or Opel. Way too much and totally unacceptable cheap, cold, dull plastic. Look at the door handle, they probably couldn't find anything cheaper, this dull plastic handle is total shambles and totally unacceptable for a car of this price range, the underside is HOLLOW......Have you ever.....The steering wheeling looks totally CHEAP with kitchy plastic like it was bought from Microsoft where they use it on their car simulators. Furthermore it isn't electrically adjustable......only manual, so no steering wheel adjust when choosing a programmed seating position. Have they gone senile at Porsche ? Hey design team : I paid 153.000 € for this RIP OFF..... The gear lever is invisible from the drivers position as it interferes with the windshield wiper controls, looks like a knob on your expresso machine and it is not lighted at night......What's happening at Porsche ? All the rest of the knobs, like the seat adjustments and window operation (all dull, black plastic) are totally unfit and unacceptable for a car of this price level. The rear seat bench looks like a plank......the back seat in my daughters Beetle has better seating. I am totally GUTTED by this unacceptable CHEAPO interior and what is the netting doing on the back of the seats ? Just barely worthy for a French car of the seventies. This 2024 Porsche Cayenne Hybrid is a total waste of money and after having driven Porsches for over 40 years I am , rightfully, deeply disappointed by this totally substandard, biblically DULL interior. Shame on you Porsche Design Team. I'm very, very disappointed, what a waste.
Kind of rare to see a US reviewer that actually knows what they’re talking about. Only one or two more come to mind. Well done!
Kyle , you drive the heck out of cars from every angle! To speed to value to efficiency, just really appreciate all your channels I follow them all! Thanks for doin what you do!
Honestly the most impressive feature for me was the phone charging pad cooling. That’s amazing. So many others just end up overheating the phone and throttling back the charging to the point of being useless. Hope more automakers pick this up.
I drove the Coupe version recently, loved it! The transmission is not as fun as the PDK, but everything else was awesome.
Well done ! Compliments from a true Porscheaholic !!
What a great detailed review! I would love to see a comparison with the 2024 BMW X5 50e PHEV, especially how the handling, throttle response, electric/ICE power transition, and brake feel compare
Second this!
How plug-in hybrids work is if you want the engine to kick in gradually at low speeds and avoid engine kickdown from cold is to use regen at 80-100% where the engine comes on even at 20mls/hr
Seat/seat belt sensors, that's how they get the 2 person demographic. The same sensors can also report how many people are onboard - in case of a collision, the vehicle can call the emergency services.
Another great review Kyle 👏🏻 The future EV Cayenne is going to be a big seller. I bet they’ll put that same dash with actual buttons for the climate etc in the updated Taycan.
A big seller for those who can afford the $100K+ price tag when including sales tax.
@@MF-et5nk All Porsches are ridiculously priced. A loaded X5 50e is $85k. A not loaded Cayenne hybrid is $120k. $35 grand!
And yet people buy them.
@@joetacchino4470 yes, and prices have increased a lot recently. However, still relatively good value when compared to Urus, Bentayga, and even XM.
@@MF-et5nk yes a pricey car, but still cheaper than the Bentayga, Cullinan, Urus.
Hey, Kyle! Loving your work! You should try the new X5 50e, the transition from electric to petrol modes there is very smooth!
Yeah I would love it if he did a full head-to-head review comparison against the X5 50e
Amazing video! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 thanks for all those feedback
I'm a 100% on board with prefering non-coupe SUV's, but I think they did a better job styling the rear end of the 2024 Coupe vs the regular version. Moving the license plate to such a low point kinda gives it a visually heavy look, especially on lighter paint colors.
You’re a terrific driver, these things defy physics, love the Cayenne, hi from New Zealand
My wife had a 2019 Cayenne e-hybrid and after 40,000 miles the high voltage battery failed, fortunately under warranty. The repair process took 6 months! Kyle - do you know if this new version can limit the maximum battery charge like most electrics. I suspect her battery failed because she charges at home and again at work so 2 full charge cycles a day. She could have partially charged and made the same trip, perhaps this would have been easier on the battery. I realize the hybrid batteries have a few kwhr of built in headroom but can it be programed for a less than "full" charge?
Thanks for the nice review.
That doesn't count as 2 full charge cycles unless she used the vast majority of the capacity. But it sounds like it sat at 100% other than maybe a few hours a day, which would be far from ideal. I would expect that a PHEV would be designed with BIG buffers "top and bottom" to mitigate this. It could also be that the battery never got run down "low" to appropriately balance? That seems less likely... Whatever happened, Porsche ate the cost and hopefully is learning how to prevent it on other vehicles
Very sad to hear about the virtual kick down being gone. My 2023 has that and it’s great, although I wish I had it in hybrid mode as well as e power.
Also, the brakes are my biggest gripe. My 23 has steels and it has the same pulsing, grabby brakes when stopping. It really sucks. It’s my biggest fault with the car. On the plus side, we just did nearly 1,600 miles on a tank so even with the older, smaller pack, there is plenty of range and quick charging for daily use.
PHEVs in the real world reduce petrol consumption by 80-90% for most owners, and eliminate the need to put public chargers everywhere.
The need for an extremely heavy $$ battery is negated.
The need to alter your schedule to conform to your car's charging needs goes away.
Have you ever test driven the much more affordable RAV4 Prime PHEV?
I wish Toyota showed more of a desire to sell the car as they have not publicized any move to increase production even though demand remains sold out for months or even years. It’s almost as if Toyota is annoyed that the PHEV is as popular as it is in favor of just selling more ICE RAV4s
We have a RAV4 Prime, and in EV mode you can put the pedal to the floor and get to 86 mph before the ICE comes on… very peppy in EV mode, too… sounds like Toyota designed the PHEV drivetrain better than Porsche has … oh, and we got our RAV4 prime for < 1/3 the price of the 2024 cayenne e-hybrid
@@cbatiau2528 and dont forget 10year warranty lol
(38:05) ... Porsche screwed this up in two ways: (1) they should allow you to floor it and stay in all-electric mode when in E-Power (provided you have enough charge in the traction battery) all the way to 86 mph, just like Toyota has done with their RAV4 Prime; and (2) they should allow one-pedal driving option like Volvo does in their PHEVs now. Porsche should allow one-pedal optional driving in ALL their EVs (PHEVs & BEVs); no excuse for not doing so.
Don’t agree with your comment of roof rails, they look like crap. Stand back and have a longer look at both again. Just saying.great review. Thanks.
best SUV out rn 🔋⛽️top notch
Cayenne E-Hybrid is undisputed
Wow what an in-depth review 👏
que lux vamos por el millon de vistas gracias ..........
That moving front armrest is a Euro "feature". US spec cars won't have it. It's not legal in US.
the king Suv ❤
Ist the additional sport exhaust recommended? Not found any comparison video to the standard exhaust
I don't understand your complaint at 32:00 onward when you're in Hybrid mode that the ICE kicks in at a certain point. That's what hybrid driving IS! If you want it to function like an EV, drive in E-Power mode! Or am I missing something?
Thanks for the Review Klye, did this Cayenne have PDCC? Do you think it's worth it?
Keep up the PHEV reviews! Li 9???
Great review Kyle. Any sign of a 2024 x5 50e review? Would be nice to hear your insights as both vehicles are very comparable!
Like Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. And like them, Alyssa does it all backwards and in heels. The old-timers will know what I'm talking about. Well done you two!!
I would like to know if you can have the ac or heat going all night while you sleep inside the vehicle, similar to 'camp' mode on a Tesla. To me, that is the only reason I would buy a PHEV, the ability to sleep in a climate controlled space without the engine having to start every 30 minutes to charge up the battery.
Great Review - I like the Cayenne a lot too - almost bought one last time :)
100000 millions billions dollars for u babez 〽️
Based on the rear trunk video, it appears that the e-hybrid does not have a spare? Did I miss something? That would be consistent with many other plug-in hybrids. Excellent series overall. Thanks.
Correct
Clicked LIKE just after 47:00 😄
which color Is better on Cayenne coupe ?
Algrave blue or Crayon ?
Thanks!
Would love to see a video on the Beam charging system! Such an awesome idea, I hope it's a commercial success.
Would love to see your review of the new RX350h/500h.
The only deal breaker for me - the interior is available only in all black or in base black. That may sound nitpicky, but many of us prefer light interiors and when you start paying upwards of $100K for a vehicle you should be able to get it exactly how you want it.
Not true
@@cbatiau2528 yes it is true! Don’t spout off before you go onto Porsche’s website and see for yourself, troll. Every interior offered is either all-black or something else that is two-toned in black. Want a beige interior? If so then ONLY the upholstery becomes beige. The carpeting, door panels, ceiling liner, upper dash, lower dash, and cargo compartment all remain black. Great if you like dark interiors. Not great if you want something else.
Is this the new Algarve Blue exterior color?
Hi @kyleconner, I am evaluating the 2024 Cayenne hybrid vs the 2024 BMW X5 50e hybrid. Which one do you recommend? Apart from drive, dynamics, performance, etc., I am concerned that the Porsche doesn't have sufficient trunk/boot space for a family. Is the Porsche that much better than the BMW to do without the extra trunk space? Thanks.
Get the bmw, i have 530e custom build with all the options you can think of and its the best car i have owned. i wish it had b58 but fortunately the x5 does so you are lucky there.
Did you do a review of the arteon phev you drove in Germany? I know you did a video round the nurburgring in it but wondered how that compared round town in full electric to something like this given the smaller motor and engine combo?
Hey Kyle, could you drop a link to the spider graphs comparing the steel and air suspension that you mentioned?
Nice work 💯 1:04:29
Breakeven with 280k km in 7 year , as battery replacement is 35k. Which will wash all saving in fuel economy.
I’ve placed a deposit on an E Hyrbid
Given you’ve drive it….
Would you spec the rear axle steer & dynamic chassis control?
Best SUV ever....for now, for me ;) but hey tomorrow is another day!
I wish car makers would get away from the phone style interface. Having to swipe and find the right “app” is annoying in a car. Not a Tesla fanboy but their layout is so much more intuitive. The controls are all laid out like virtual hard buttons, navigation is always visible, climate is always visible, (same with heated seats/wheel/media, etc) everything is on the home screen. Less used functions like AP settings, safety toggles etc are in a menu but well laid out. Potentially more used things like mirrors, wheel adjustment, etc are in the first page that comes up by default when bringing up the menu.
Kyle, what was the pure electric miles on a full charge and what was your MPGe? Thanks
He got 45 miles of all-electric in a test in a companion video done the same day
I'm confused as to what you're saying about accelerating and not knowing when the ICE will come on in E-Power mode (35:30-38:20) ... Our RAV4 Prime in EV mode will keep the ICE off with the accelerator pedal to the floor all the way to 86 mph ... If Toyota can make this happen, why can't Porsche? I thought that Porsche had an electric-only "flooring" mode in their E-Hybrids, in which you can floor the pedal from stop and get the 7- or 8-second 0-60 mph figure without the ICE coming on... (?)
and Kyle's discussion on this topic at 15:30-17:00, also...
I love
Drive a base Cayenne with PASM steel suspension on base wheels and tires.
Is Kyle a big guy or the Cayenne has shrunk?
I was surprised those solar beam chargers I read only have 43kWh internal batteries max (some with only 22 or 32kWh). Doesn't seem very practical to drivers, unless you were able to link them up together to share storage across multiple units... And even a trickle grid connection that kicks on under specific conditions could help a ton. Seems like a device designed to soak up "free" green grants/subsidies/money and provide little actual value to real EV drivers. Those things can't be cheap.
I am sorry but your car don't have the carbon ceramics. It has acid green calipers, steel brakes. And it has a single turbo.
Dash does not flow as well with the updated model. Looks pretty clunky IMO.
At least you were in Malibu, and not in Ventura, where they paint the bike lanes a beautiful, dark green, but they couldn't care less, if all of us driving cars, hit the pot holes!
Bring Back Big Beautiful Buttons - touchscreens are for phones, NOT cars.
Also, these new cars are so incredibly complex that I think they have no future as used cars. They may be OK for the first three years, but I imagine a future world of nothing but abandoned expensive vehicles, unable to be fixed. Hardly environmentaly friendly in the long term.
It’s a single turbo not twin turbo 3:43
The coupe version is nicer I think
I agree!
Can’t believe you wasted 20 sec on that solar charging stand lol
Prefer you to only talk about the car on test rather than vehicles you pass on your journey, Thank you
Passenger side triangle window Broken
So Alyssa is back! I guess we won't hear from Anna anymore just like Jordan
Strange…
He says "It's not the nicest engine in the world, but it gets the job done"!!! First of all, with which engines does he compare it with? Nobody buys this car just to get his job done for God's sake!
In the comment section of other video about this cayenne model i read that the front looks like a person with botox lips and a stretched face, cant unsee it now
Really? 20 ads in one video is a record for sure by miles! No sub
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Theorem: A man who uses “juicy” as an adjective for enthusiastic approval => A man who is very “douchey”. Isn’t the cost reduced exposed “Porsche” logo a complete PITA dirt and filth collector?
Flabbergasted by all these incompetent comments about a Porsche where the quality and feel of the interieur is absolutely HORRIBLE. Just received my 2024 Cayenne Hybrid, my 4th Cayenne and I have 10 Porsches running.
The price tag was 153.000€.......What happened at the Porsche Interior department ???
The interior looks like a cheap Skoda or Opel. Way too much and totally unacceptable cheap, cold, dull plastic.
Look at the door handle, they probably couldn't find anything cheaper, this dull plastic handle is total shambles and totally unacceptable for a car of this price range, the underside is HOLLOW......Have you ever.....The steering wheeling looks totally CHEAP with kitchy plastic like it was bought from Microsoft where they use it on their car simulators. Furthermore it isn't electrically adjustable......only manual, so no steering wheel adjust when choosing a programmed seating position.
Have they gone senile at Porsche ? Hey design team : I paid 153.000 € for this RIP OFF.....
The gear lever is invisible from the drivers position as it interferes with the windshield wiper controls, looks like a knob on your expresso machine and it is not lighted at night......What's happening at Porsche ? All the rest of the knobs, like the seat adjustments and window operation (all dull, black plastic) are totally unfit and unacceptable for a car of this price level.
The rear seat bench looks like a plank......the back seat in my daughters Beetle has better seating.
I am totally GUTTED by this unacceptable CHEAPO interior and what is the netting doing on the back of the seats ? Just barely worthy for a French car of the seventies.
This 2024 Porsche Cayenne Hybrid is a total waste of money and after having driven Porsches for over 40 years I am , rightfully, deeply disappointed by
this totally substandard, biblically DULL interior.
Shame on you Porsche Design Team. I'm very, very disappointed, what a waste.
Why did you buy it then???
Overpriced AF
Lot of wasted time !
I was a bit hasty and unfair…..it turned out to be a pretty fair, if quick, review.
🤔 Putting highly illegal driving maneuvers on the internet... Darwin Award winner here.
Model x plaid is still cheaper than this…what’s the point of this car
Stupenda !!!!! Danilo e Margherita da Anzio RM. A breve.