How PUNK put Hotashi IN HIS PLACE
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
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This is probably one of the BEST Guilty Gear Strive money matches to happen ever had some INSANE gameplay to back it up: Panda PunkDaGod vs Moist Esports Hotashi. After Hotashi won Bamboo Battles, he talked some mad stuff to everyone, including calling out Punk and his Sol. So you know Punk had to shut him up by taking up his FT15 offer. I watched and analyze the set and see just what the best Sol Badguy can do against the best Nagoriyuki.
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Kizzie really just Roman Cancel'd all fighting game toxicity in the last part of the vid XD
Watching this set without the Twitter context is hilarious. Just seeing Punk spend a whole bar of meter just for the t bags kills me
It had nothing to do with twitter, all the trash talking started on Hotashis's twitch chat. After he won agains Marn he started to brag and said he could take anyone for money. Punk said "I want in" and he started to trash talk him for no reason. Knowing Punk he trash talked back ALL THE WAY and it was well deserved.
@@CineGoodog nah it started from punk eliminating hotashi with pre-patch sol, where hotashi said punk was carried by a broken character.
This is so helpful, for my own awareness of my playstyle, 'cos often, when my gameplan gets read or adapted too, I struggle a lot to break my autopilot, and going for other things to mix things up. For me, it comes from reluctance to try something new and getting punished, due to how well my normal plan works most of the time. Someone I fought said it's about "assessing" the situation, or how Kizzie put it, the difference between reads and guesses. Thanks for this video, this was mad insightful. 🧠🧠🧠
Try to talk out loud to yourself; it helps with autopilot
Amen bro, i have the same problem
Really trying to work on my mental game rn
Best of luck to us, i know we'll get it!
I'm glad I'm not the only one 😁
What character do you play?
@@carlos41519 I play Zato, so the autopilot thing is a mad bad habit 😬
Kizzie is regularly dropping pearls of wisdom for us non-pros, but Kizzie analysis vids are probably my favorite. Always feels good to learn some new ways to think about the game, not just new tech etc.
That’s facts tho at the end kizzie. Hotashi even released a video of the money match and did a analysis. I’m not a fan of hotashi but you have to respect him. 90% of the people including probably me. would of had hotashis ego if they won evo so don’t get it twisted
Does he have an ego? I thought he was chill
Preach! Gotta give respect to people man
im sorry i meant like when he was talking to punk. he is a very chill guy
@@ken-yo2hz he talked a lot of shit to punk before the match for no reason
@@Ypeezyyy what he said?
So I heard that hotashi first told punk after punk beat him in a set that he was carried by sol and then on another day after the money match with marn is when hotashi called out everyone. At that point punk took the challenge, but prior to hotashi saying that to punk he never said anything to him is that correct guys?
Correct
8:24 that being said though, Nago isn't really the type of character that can freely protect himself imo. Nago HAS to make those guesses on if the opponent is gonna jump in on him or run up. Because if he guess too late, he now has to deal with jump in to pressure or run up throw into Oki.
I genuinely don't blame Hotashi for throwing out as many 2S, 2H, and 6H's as he did. It's scary as hell when you feel like someone's bouta run up on you and you really don't want them to get in for free when you don't have any defensive tools.
What was Hotashi to realistically do that didn't still put him at a disadvantage? It's weird because in those situations you'd think the character with the big ass sword and biggest normals would easily shine, but the second you get into level 2 blood, Nago neural at high levels boils down to 1 beyblade and 2-3 Fukyo for Nago to get in and get anything started.
The problem is Hotashi's neutral became too rigid as it failed him instead of applying variance to it. He didn't try throwing in fakes in the later rounds(F.SS-> block instead of buttons). Always charging head first when he got his turn. So many times if he had instead went for a 214K on block into pressure instead of losing his turn he could have gotten easy rounds. He also loved going for multiple special moves in combos for highest damage or for corner carry, but then proceeded to die after BR.
Well there he made a mistake. He either reacted too late to the hit, mis-inputted or both (there definitely looks like a mis-input but I don't know how soon after the hit he tried to dash) and then panicked and went in anyway. If he would've dashed forward after 5h hit he could've done another 5h that would either hit or give chip damage. And been in the perfect range to just "zone" punk out.
Not only that but at that distance you can react to a jump, he was pretty far away and he wouldn't have been able to cover enough distance in the air for 2h to whiff. So he could've reacted and done 2h and if they blocked it while in the air you can dash in for free.
@@IveGoneAstray As far as f.SS into block goes, you have to have conditioned _the hell_ out of your opponent. It's -7, so you're gonna get punished at a lot of ranges due to its massive forward momentum.
@@baltharaaz9847 I feel like thats the whole point of Nago since he can special cancel off all his blocked moves, & back-fukyo putting Nago at his optimal range to reset pressure. You force them to start back dashing, and jumping because Nago can punish DP, mash and supers with the rinse repeat offense. If you do a good enough job, eventually they give up their turn on their own
Very linear view. Open your mind to the possibilities
Punk got in his head too easily, which caused hotashi to go for these huge plays that just weren’t there, the mental game is just as important (which is why taunting is especially good against Nago Pot and May)
When punk is able to get in peoples head, it’s downright terrifying. Him and sonic fox do super well at reading the “feel” of their opponent, and adapting to that.
Beating them seems to usually require you out reading them or being able to play very calm and consistent on both offense and defense for long periods of time, like GO1 in DBFZ or idom in sfv. Both players are so fun to watch for that reason, you can really see the mind games going on for them and their opponents 👍
I mean it’s a bad player match up. Punk is known for his hit confirms and whiff punishes which are exactly what beat nago. Hotashi runs his mouth a little too much sometimes, like in eu vs ec, but that doesn’t make him a bad person or a bad player and we all know punk is a troll. He calls himself a troll. It’s the culture
the saltposting culture to be exact
Hotashi is pretty toxic from what I’ve seen of his streams. Still great player tho
I love how far away you stayed from the beef and tried to just turn this into an educational lesson. Thanks for this - I learned a ton!
16:50 Make sure y’all listen to that because I see people still arguing over this subject. It’s never that deep and move on great match tho. The viewer can be worse than the players at times when it “drama”
Kizzie analyzing matches is still the best thing
Real talk I dont know why people are downplayin' punk. Mans is boppin everyone I swear
Bc people are assholes and he's an sf player not a gg player. Also he plays Sol.
None of these things discount his skill people are just assholes.
@@raiden3079 people are assholes but punk is a big asshole aswell lmao (I'm a fan of his btw)
At the end of the day we are still human, like Hotashi talking shit to Punk before the match was understandable he is a EVO champion. That win is like a double edged sword like sure you can flaunt that title but once you’ve accepted victory and have been praised for it you’ll see your Ego grow and cultivate. Then when you lose it’s like a snap, back to reality. That’s what happened here. Great video as always Kizzie and a great message at the end.
Oap there goes gravity
Look i love the crew but a ton of the game-play gets cut out just to zoom in on Kizzie's face while he talks. I feel like it is a bit too much, no disrespect intended.
Kizzie with the life advice at the end. I respect that
Kizzie really spoke nothing but truth at the end there.
Bro? Seein this match for the third time? This man was mashin the hell outta 2H
Preaching at the end 10/10
Worth a like and sub
Panda editors goin crazy once again LMAO
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i know the reward for landing 2H is nice but Hotashi wtf are you doing spamming that shit like its the only button Nago has.
Bruh as a newer player coming into fighting games interested in trying GG Strive/Xrd I really fw these analysis type videos from you.💯
"Hotashi's 2S are godlike"
Also Hotashi: 3:41 lol
There was nothing wrong with that 2S. The move has almost no recovery so there's nothing wrong with just whiffing it.
I can guess why hotashi kept spaming 2H when he shouldnt. punk kept catching him with the bandit bringer and hotashi was trying to catch the random bandit bringer in his panic state.
Take this how ever you want but hotashi got full of himself with his Evo win and started trash talking and he messed up and trash talked the wrong person and got rolled for it.
This is a lesson in sportsmanship. You win a turny like Evo you put that trophy on your shelf and be proud of it. Dont go down talking other players cause you won. Cause there are people who will crush you for free because you insult them and wont be nice about it. rewatch those first matches up till punk started losing. you can tell he was out for blood. Then go watch both hotashi and punk's stream vods. the longer the matches went the more stressed hotashi got and the more fun punk was having.
Watched this live, that was so hype.
PUNK TO HOTASHI:
KNOCK-KNOCK!
WHO IS IT?
**!!POW!!**
(NO PUNCHLINE)
Yeah I didn't realize EVO was on PS4, which explains a lot, especially SonicFox/Hotashi being so high with pretty questionable gameplay decisions to say the least and a lot of the punishable stuff throughout the tournament was just ignored.
Need i remind people, Punk was drunk while playing Hotashi in this set. If you watch from Yipes perspective, he tells him that he was tipsy from drinking shots before the stream. So not only did Hotshi took the L but to a dude who wasnt fully functioning. Be humble. What Punk said at the end of the stream is also very important that it doesnt matter what character you play, play that character. Fuck what anyone else says.
Kizzie always be spittin truth
Based Kizzie speaking facts at the end there
Gotta remember that Hotashi did a FT15 with Marn right before this
bruh I went to get a drowned in pools shirt and it's sold out already, we got no swimmers out here
This is what happens when you're feeling your oats
Damn Kizzie you be spitting bars at the end there. Facts.
Excellent commentary.
i know that you high level players aren't gods and make mistakes too but that intro clip HELLA inspired me to stop bashing myself for being a filthy masher at every opportunity i get
U should analyze the trash talk in a follow up vid lol
It's a lesson as old as strive; there is no such thing as a life lead vs sol badguy
"he plays sol tho"
First clip, I didn't watch the exhibition. I don't play Strive but I watch it occasionally. Hotashi got punished for his super with f.S then the first hit of Tyrant rave whiffed. Why would Hotashi swing into the second hit of it? He got counter hit so he was definitely mashing, what was this interaction? After watching further into the video I'm glad Kizzie was as confused as I was LOL
It was 5H not f.S. also I believe tyrant rave doesn't have full body invincibility so it's possible hotashi was trying to stuff it before the second hit came out. Still not a very smart move tho
Day 7 of asking kizzie to play the stick figure fighting game called knockout and telling him that his videos make our days a little bit better
12:50 was he trying to drift brc at punk to make him block the berserk mode? Does that even work, ive never seen that
bro what happened to your quality?? I swear this shit look like minecraft sometimes
I love this type of content
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damn he really had to teabag him tho
the teabag is nothin compared to the trash talk he did before and after the fight. Shit was crazy
@@123nicanor oh yeah it's justified for sure, i didn't know hotashi was such a shit-talker lol
@@Lakeland777 he meant punks shit talking
punk was talking mad shit before and after the set, AND teabagging lol
@@Lakeland777 I personally don't think it's all justified. Not picking sides, both said things that could be taken really wrong. But I do think punk went a little too ham. Especially after talking about being humble. There are things I really respected and agreed with but he definitely did a little too much imo
@@brolylegendaryssj I agree. I didn't think it was justified too, if Punk was trash talking about Hotashi's skills about the game sure, but he went on about Hotashi being a fake Evo champ and shit, it was getting a bit too personal. You can even tell Yipes was not liking what was happening on the last parts but was trying to be neutral about it. It wasn't a harmless trashtalking no more, it was straight up toxicity. I mean I liked what Punk was doing so far, his harmless trashtalking and show boating is entertaining to watch but this one though..... Oooof. It was painful to watch.
Kizzie: Nago 2s is a godlike button that isnt hard to be good with.
They hated Kizzie because he told them the truth.
i mean when you press/whiff it a literal 9 times....come on now
I'm so glad Kizzie explained what happened and what sparked this. So many people thought Punk was just being a bully for no reason since Hotashi, for lack of a better term, "bitched up" when Punk confronted him and told him put his money where his mouth is. That really irked me because things have changed so much and playing that fake humble/nice guy role gets you a ton of sympathy points nowadays and it was BS.
ass whoopin so bad it was made into an instructional video on how to deal with nago
2Hotashi
Name of the song that plays 11:08??
4:03 Punk 🤣
Bro i remember this set. Punk went ham with the smack talk and proceeded to back it up. Good ol' fgc at its finest
God i wish nago's 6h was an overhead
Yay!
Nice videos always, but please. You have to stop zooming on dizzy's face, he's cute and all, but it's so annoying when we can see what's happening in the game and missing some elements.
Punk best hotashi because instead of playing nago he was playing blood rage nago the entire match blinded by rage and just making so many f... mistakes u can see them. Punk is very talented I'm not saying he couldn't beat him I'm saying if hotashi played the game it would of been a better ft15 I'm just saying he throw matches 🤷 continuesly and Punk seen it then put icing on it he tea bagged him adding salt to injury
Why the f*ck it says Haagen Dazs on Nago's glove lmao?? czcams.com/video/8UwivJTejkA/video.html
I love punk but I don't love Sol. Good job to Hotashi though he beat Marn at the same day and still accepted punks challenge so I have more respect for him but he should have taken a rest first before challenging punk. GG to both of them
6:58 “so it seems like that’s the *sol* issue”
I see you.
Yipes is a character but hilarious
As much as I love playing nago, it's sometimes a headache doing so, I just hate his frames on his normals, the start up on most of his moves is just too much for the fact that the recovery sucks as well as his sword has a hurt box too lol and I get punished for whiffing because reacting a lot of the time is just not possible so it's exactly how kizzy said u have to just try to make a read if it works good, if it don't you're gonna eat shit and that's for most of the characters because they have much better movement than nago has good frames, so it's just a bunch of in and out dashing, jump forward air back dash backwards to get u to press a button then crush u
It’s balance. He has practically full screen normals. If he didn’t have recovery like that he would be broken.
True, it's just a big normals problem. Using big normals basically mean you are playing the guessing (or maybe you read your opponent) game. No way you use it in a scrambling situation, right.
@@Sparda51 so why does ram have the same range but better frames?
@@titmit6940 and yeah exactly
@@DreBagsGaming except she doesn't lol. and she can't cancel into every to everything. So I'm missing your point?
16:05 You really gonna say Punk didn't take it hard given all the tebagging and then trash talking afterwards despite Hotashi, even before they started the match, apologizing about what he said.
Punk is a streamer/entertainer as well as an amazing player. Trash talk gets views, it's the oldest trick in sports entertainment. Look at boxing/UFC etc. He saw a chance to jump in the spotlight, make some $$$, spread his name and dent a rival's ego. All part of the job. "Taking it hard" would be crying in his room rethinking his choices.
He was drinking and AFAIR hanging with friends before the match, whilst watching the stream. Pretty much every human can relate to having a tipsy im-gonna-show-off moment. That's all it was.
Imma tell you like I told everyone else. Don't run your mouth if you know you gonna get smoked
Trash talk is funny, if you watched while he played he was still saying “nice, that was good” when he felt Hotashi made good plays. You don’t do that when you don’t like someone or take something so personally. He was just enjoying himself and proving to Hotashi he can beat him. Can’t just let Hotashi talk and say he all humble when he not. He just said stop it and let’s play and see who is better. Let the game talk.
Super
What exactly about Strive was supposed to prevent Punk from being Godlike...especially with Sol? Why come with Nago anyway?
why didn't punk win evo?
@@williamingwerson4692 It's a FT2 and FT3 tournament. Anything can happen. Long sets show who really has it between two players.
@@KOJO_WINS true but tournaments are more important
Punk single handedly reminding me why hotashi isn’t actually the US best
He only had to play fucking sol to do it
Sol still tippy top S tier. We saw what happened when Punk tried to play another character he got washed.
Everytime Hotashi got wake up 5K'd it truly hurt
But at the same time, Hotashi is a very tongue in cheek player, can't quite blame Punk for mashing 💀 It's all "BrO YOu oNlY mASH" till you get bit by Nago into 30%
Hotashi was mashing 2S, there are no arguments for mashing here
@@mystymos3614 The ol slugger match
I dont think the GG community truly knows who Punk is while not understand how difficult SFV is compared to this game. Any high caliber SFV player that makes the transition to Strive would dominate in this game period. Even players that most would consider low rank in sfv would do very well in Strive.
If punk is so good why didn't he play militia?
Why is it "How to beat Nago" and not "How to beat Sol"? I was under the impression that Sol is the S+ bully and Nago a low tier.
There is no way nago is low tier and I say that as a nago player.
Nago isn't low tier. He is pretty good and really dangerous when you learn to manage his blood gauge and as for Sol yes show me how to get in on this character
After the nerfs Nago is considered S+ tier, same as Sol. EVO happened on the "Sol is best character" patch, when this smack talk occurred.
@@huntergottlieb3943 He's not considered in the same league as Sol.
@@jeyd8194 that's just one dude tho. General consensus of Nago at least S, possibly top tier. He was a high-tier that got nothing but buffs with his worst matchups being nerfed. Not that it matters outside of pro players. Everyone should play who they want.
Sol is 100% busted and there is no arguing about it. The frame data speaks for itself. If you play him you always have an unfair advantage over everyone else and are carried by it. Yes, even ater the last patch. Looking forward to when Sol is nerfed into the ground and Sol players finally need to play on everybody else's level.
Punk is really good but he has nothing to brag about winning over Hotashi's Nago by three points. Also he was being petty and butthurt from the get go, very little class anyways. Hotashi on the other hand took one of the underdogs of the roster, uncovered his potential and taught the world a lesson by winning EVO with it. That's what a top player is. Punk relied a lot on Sol's unfair privileges which need to be nerfed (e.g. plus on block fS, he Is the only One in the roster to have It, and double hitting anti air 3f 5K), he has nothing on Hotashi. I would bet anything Hotashi would leave him at 15 - 8 if they played again
Bruh u got a agenda against punk I swear
Bro, why the fuck do you care so much? They put the money up and settled it. No more needs to be said.
@@n8thedad454 I don't. When i'll see him acting with sportsmanship ill praise him. This time around he Simply sounded frustrated and chose to play the most uninteresting character in the roster Simply to exploit some busted moves. Not what i like to see, thats all.
shut pls both of them were playing good chars
If Sol losses his 3 frame 5k and his plus on block far slash that you can definitely get away from then what does he have that’s so special? A character is allowed to be good. He doesn’t need more nerfs. He’s not broken.
Damn, when punk said Hotashi sucks he was not joking even in the slightest, like obviously Hotashi is god-like but punk really makes him look like hes trash at the game here, its crazy.
I can’t tell what it is though. Is it just this match up?
How do you make someone look trash in the game when you lost the set 15-12?? Only lost by 3
@@Casper15CTRP we call these the youtube monsters lol
Losing 3 games against world class player playing the best char in the game while winning 12 times somehow makes you trash at the game? Not to mention Hotashi had just played against Marn, another top player in a very heated, high stress FT15 prior to this match?
You CZcams monsters are really something else.
I mean this is the same Punk that was trying to prove he didn't need Sol to win a tournament and then proceeded to use Sol for Millia's bad matchups lol. Punk is world class player and could be 99% of us with any char but he won 15-12 not 15-1 lol
Didnt punk just get wiggitywashed by hotashi in LCQ? punk should stick to sfv