Arleigh! It couldn't have happened to a better person! In just this year, I bought a Tern HSD, HSD Performance and ordered an HSD R14 because of your insights. Good for you! You received this reward for your generosity if I may say.
I'm jealous of a couple of those upgrades, particularly the locking kickstand and a couple of the frame differences. The fact that it doesn't come in orange is the only thing making it easier to not try and upgrade from my original S10.
Congratulations for your new job at Tern ! And thank you for the video. I suggest that you do a video with different configurations at the back, with children from different ages (2 kids under 5, one 5 years old kid and one 10 years old kid, 2 kids between 7 and 10,...). This is the major concern of parents who would like to buy this bike => Is it ok for me and my children ? And how long will I be able to transport them... Personnaly I have a 5 years old kil and a 9 years old kid ;-) And also how much stuff can this bike transport ? (A video with different configurations for the rear rack). Thank you. Julien from France 🇫🇷
Congratulations Arleigh on your position with Tern, as soon as they make some of these same improvements (dual batteries/Rohloff hub/kickstand/gen 4 motor);to the HSD I plan on buying one
Congratulations on the new job. Great to see how knowledgeable you are.I’m sure that you’ll be a huge asset to them and their plans to grow the US market. Best wishes. 👍
Fantastic news, hope it goes very well for you. Can't wait until the UK government make moves for us to use bikes more here in the UK, electric cargo bikes can be a huge part of the revolution moving forward.
Please can you inform me what is maximum handlebar height when the andros stem is adjusted - as measured from the floor to uppermost surface of the hand grips?
Congratulations on your job at Tern! I have loved your videos and hope you will keep making them! If you/Tern ever want to know the issues of the GSD for larger bodies, please let me know!
Congratulations Aleigh, on your announcement! Much deserved I'm sure. I haven't yet read the other comments but I hope that the "Bike Shop Girl" will continue to feature on CZcams in some form. I find it so informative. It would be a great loss. Even if it features only Tern bikes under a new title. I'm interested in the Tern GSD 2 trying to decide between the S00 and the R14. Some prefer Enviolo CVT others the Rohloff. Will Tern bring the 'Enviolo Automatiq' to the GSD in 2012 or 2022? It may be a comparable alternative to the Rohloff.
Patrick - thank you so much for the kind words. Keep in touch and let me know what content you are looking for. The new models are 2021 models. The R14 is a HOT bike and I expect it to sell out quickly at dealers. I personally will be sticking with the S00 as I don't personally enjoy the automatic feeling but know many people that do because you don't have to think about shifting. Personally, it's just natural - like driving a stick car!
@@BikeShopGirl Thank you for replying Arleigh. I realise you are a very busy lady. I'm in my mid-fifties. I rode bikes up until my thirties but haven't ridden since due to the 16-mile (sometimes) hilly travel to work each morning. (25 years ago now.) I don't drive but with the advent of e-bikes here in the UK I am keenly interested to resume my commutes under my own steam (as opposed to public transport). You were the first to bring to my attention (in one of your videos) that electronic gear shifters should not be engaged under load. Thanks for that!🙂 I realise the Rohloff hub is very expensive (perhaps $1000) and the second battery (perhaps up to $800) resulting in the R14 being more expensive. Not sure how that comes to a $2800 price difference with the S00, though. Like you I think the S00 is value for money. I don't have small children transport to school but I'm now looking at the S00 and the new HSD S+. There are a lot of similarities between them. The S00 edges it at the moment for me. Arleigh, I hope you will consider producing videos reviewing any upcoming and new Tern products following your appointment.🙏🙂
Thanks for the review- hoping to get my order in soon! Do you know if the bike fits on car racks with arm clamps on the front and rear wheels? (Saris superclamp) I’m hoping we’d be able to take the bike with us on vacation without having to commit huge amounts of trunk space.
Most racks (unless it is very new and fancy) are not designed to hold 70lbs of bike weight (always take off the battery)! there are only a few available
This looks incredible! Any chance Tern will make a GSD category 3, 28 mpg bike? This is the only remaining hurdle for me, personally. Very clear vid, practical explanations for newbie and fans alike. Thank you!
Yes I do want to fix it. I hear it all the time while riding the "banks to vernonia trail" check out the trail if anybody travles here to Oregon looking for a place to take the kids.
Q1: As yours is the newest post on the new GSDs, I have to ask, "When will they be available in N. VA?" Any insights given your new position? Q2: If I do not pre-order from my LBS, once available in N. VA, how quickly can I get one if I wait to order then? Will there be enough stocked at the nearest distribution center to ensure they won't all be sold out before I can place an order? Q3: Which do you recommend for greatest flexibility in carrying cargo (not kids): Shortbed Tray, new ClubHouse Plus, or neither? Is the cut out in Shortbed tray still needed for Gen2 GSD with 2 batteries? Does new ClubHouse interfere with access to tops of the Cargo Hold-52 panniers? Q4: As a former LBS owner, would you say 50% up front is reasonable for my LBS to ask of me regarding a deposit to pre-order a bike? Thank you for your insights. Good luck and God bless and prosper you and your family in your new role with Tern.
1 & 2, I would ask your local dealer. If they have some already pre-ordered I would hope you will see them by the end of the year. Some of the models are already sold out for the first wave of bikes, so if they don't have those specific ones on preorder then you may be looking at early 2021. 3 - I would start off with the Cargo Hold 52 and maybe a front rack to begin with and then add to it if you need. The clubhouse + does not interfere with the panniers, but neither did the original one. I haven't seen a shortbed installed on the Gen2. The length of the Gen2 is different so I would want to see it before saying. 4 - depending on the shop it is typically between 50-100%. 50% if it is a bike they would normally be carrying and 100% if they never would have ordered that bike and the risk are too great for them to bring it in just for you. Please send me an email about the short bed if you really need to know asap! arleigh.greenwald@ternbicycles.com
Question: I have a favorite bike seat. With the new GSD, is it easy to switch out the seat or do Tern bikes have unique attachments for seat rails? I like the concept of GSD's seat with the handle on the back but I prefer to use the seat that fits my body the best.
My community is not well adapted for bicycles. I have multiple intersections where I have to cross major highways in traffic. Getting across quickly is the only way to avoid getting hit. Pedal assist only is not quick enough. Do these have a throttle option so I can scoot across 8 lanes of traffic before the light changes?
With pedal assist you can ride longer routes, so maybe a few miles can help you to circumvent insecure intersections. The shortest route is usually not the nicest.
@@RolandRides I'm well aware of what pedal assist is. I've built a BBSHD based cargo bike built onto a Yuba Boda Boda. I can either cross at least 2 highways, or break the law and ride on a restricted access highway for 6 miles each way and become street pizza on the ramps. Those are the only two options. This option is the longer route by an additional 4.5 miles. I don't take kindly to being spoken to like I'm a child or an idiot. If you didn't mean to talk down to me, maybe think about rephrasing your comments.
@@RolandRides I didn't know whether the new model would incorporate a throttle. Hence why I asked. I prefaced the question with a statement about the situation in an attempt to head off items like your interjection. I don't know everything. Unlike you however, I don't assume others are idiots too stupid to map potential routes and weight potential risks.
@@BikeShopGirl Hi. I am in the Seattle area. Lots of paved paths but I would like flexibility for hardback first with bumps here and there. Certainly nothing that would qualify as mountain biking or switchback or single track, but yes to fire roads and the like. I am currently struggling to select between this bike and an R&M
Those are retaining keys, legally required in the EU so all frame locks on Terns have a retaining frame lock where if the lock is unlocked the key is in. To get the key out the lock has to be locked.
Arleigh! It couldn't have happened to a better person! In just this year, I bought a Tern HSD, HSD Performance and ordered an HSD R14 because of your insights. Good for you! You received this reward for your generosity if I may say.
Oh thank you so much
I'm jealous of a couple of those upgrades, particularly the locking kickstand and a couple of the frame differences. The fact that it doesn't come in orange is the only thing making it easier to not try and upgrade from my original S10.
Love TERN. Still love my version 1 GSD. But version 2 is sweet. Glad you are on the team. Your reviews are thorough and succinct. Good job.
Congratulations !! Cant wait to see more reviews of all the Tern models.
Congrats! Tern is one of my favorite companies!
Congratulations and carry on with your mission.
Congratulations for your new job at Tern ! And thank you for the video. I suggest that you do a video with different configurations at the back, with children from different ages (2 kids under 5, one 5 years old kid and one 10 years old kid, 2 kids between 7 and 10,...). This is the major concern of parents who would like to buy this bike => Is it ok for me and my children ? And how long will I be able to transport them... Personnaly I have a 5 years old kil and a 9 years old kid ;-) And also how much stuff can this bike transport ? (A video with different configurations for the rear rack). Thank you. Julien from France 🇫🇷
Congrats!
Congratulations Arleigh on your position with Tern, as soon as they make some of these same improvements (dual batteries/Rohloff hub/kickstand/gen 4 motor);to the HSD I plan on buying one
Sorry to hear you have closed your bicycle shop but I wish you every success and happiness in your new role with Tern. keep up the good work
Much appreciated
Oh you are a huncho!!!
When I heard you say work for term, I thought it was as an tester or demo person.
You big moves. I love my tern link.
Congratulations on the new job.
Great to see how knowledgeable you are.I’m sure that you’ll be a huge asset to them and their plans to grow the US market.
Best wishes. 👍
Congrats, Arleigh. (BTW: I am saving up for a Tern GSD to by formyself for my 40th birthday)
I can't wait to get this bike 😍
Which one did you order?!
This bike just looks FANTASTIC!! Thanks for the great review 👍 cheers 🍻
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic news, hope it goes very well for you. Can't wait until the UK government make moves for us to use bikes more here in the UK, electric cargo bikes can be a huge part of the revolution moving forward.
Always interested in GSD or HSD until I buy one myself :) one day I will earn enough to buy it:) lucky you 🤩
Please can you inform me what is maximum handlebar height when the andros stem is adjusted - as measured from the floor to uppermost surface of the hand grips?
Rad!
Congratulations on your job at Tern! I have loved your videos and hope you will keep making them!
If you/Tern ever want to know the issues of the GSD for larger bodies, please let me know!
Any and all info you want to share with me will be greatly appreciated. Arleigh.greenwald@ternbicycles dot com
I want to know too as I'm considering buying one.
Congratulations Aleigh, on your announcement! Much deserved I'm sure. I haven't yet read the other comments but I hope that the "Bike Shop Girl" will continue to feature on CZcams in some form. I find it so informative. It would be a great loss. Even if it features only Tern bikes under a new title. I'm interested in the Tern GSD 2 trying to decide between the S00 and the R14. Some prefer Enviolo CVT others the Rohloff. Will Tern bring the 'Enviolo Automatiq' to the GSD in 2012 or 2022? It may be a comparable alternative to the Rohloff.
Patrick - thank you so much for the kind words. Keep in touch and let me know what content you are looking for.
The new models are 2021 models. The R14 is a HOT bike and I expect it to sell out quickly at dealers. I personally will be sticking with the S00 as I don't personally enjoy the automatic feeling but know many people that do because you don't have to think about shifting. Personally, it's just natural - like driving a stick car!
@@BikeShopGirl
Thank you for replying Arleigh. I realise you are a very busy lady.
I'm in my mid-fifties. I rode bikes up until my thirties but haven't ridden since due to the 16-mile (sometimes) hilly travel to work each morning. (25 years ago now.) I don't drive but with the advent of e-bikes here in the UK I am keenly interested to resume my commutes under my own steam (as opposed to public transport). You were the first to bring to my attention (in one of your videos) that electronic gear shifters should not be engaged under load. Thanks for that!🙂
I realise the Rohloff hub is very expensive (perhaps $1000) and the second battery (perhaps up to $800) resulting in the R14 being more expensive. Not sure how that comes to a $2800 price difference with the S00, though. Like you I think the S00 is value for money. I don't have small children transport to school but I'm now looking at the S00 and the new HSD S+. There are a lot of similarities between them. The S00 edges it at the moment for me.
Arleigh, I hope you will consider producing videos reviewing any upcoming and new Tern products following your appointment.🙏🙂
Good review
Thanks for the review- hoping to get my order in soon! Do you know if the bike fits on car racks with arm clamps on the front and rear wheels? (Saris superclamp) I’m hoping we’d be able to take the bike with us on vacation without having to commit huge amounts of trunk space.
Most racks (unless it is very new and fancy) are not designed to hold 70lbs of bike weight (always take off the battery)! there are only a few available
This looks incredible! Any chance Tern will make a GSD category 3, 28 mpg bike? This is the only remaining hurdle for me, personally. Very clear vid, practical explanations for newbie and fans alike. Thank you!
Check out the HSD S11 👍🏽
Why don't all bike seats have a handle underneath?
Yes I do want to fix it. I hear it all the time while riding the "banks to vernonia trail" check out the trail if anybody travles here to Oregon looking for a place to take the kids.
Q1: As yours is the newest post on the new GSDs, I have to ask, "When will they be available in N. VA?" Any insights given your new position?
Q2: If I do not pre-order from my LBS, once available in N. VA, how quickly can I get one if I wait to order then? Will there be enough stocked at the nearest distribution center to ensure they won't all be sold out before I can place an order?
Q3: Which do you recommend for greatest flexibility in carrying cargo (not kids): Shortbed Tray, new ClubHouse Plus, or neither? Is the cut out in Shortbed tray still needed for Gen2 GSD with 2 batteries? Does new ClubHouse interfere with access to tops of the Cargo Hold-52 panniers?
Q4: As a former LBS owner, would you say 50% up front is reasonable for my LBS to ask of me regarding a deposit to pre-order a bike?
Thank you for your insights. Good luck and God bless and prosper you and your family in your new role with Tern.
1 & 2, I would ask your local dealer. If they have some already pre-ordered I would hope you will see them by the end of the year. Some of the models are already sold out for the first wave of bikes, so if they don't have those specific ones on preorder then you may be looking at early 2021.
3 - I would start off with the Cargo Hold 52 and maybe a front rack to begin with and then add to it if you need. The clubhouse + does not interfere with the panniers, but neither did the original one. I haven't seen a shortbed installed on the Gen2. The length of the Gen2 is different so I would want to see it before saying.
4 - depending on the shop it is typically between 50-100%. 50% if it is a bike they would normally be carrying and 100% if they never would have ordered that bike and the risk are too great for them to bring it in just for you.
Please send me an email about the short bed if you really need to know asap! arleigh.greenwald@ternbicycles.com
Do you think the clubhouse+ with a Yepp seat installed in the back position would allow for 3 small kids (1-5 yo) to fit in?
I've seen some people use the GSD with 3 small kids but I can't recommend it as it is outside of how the bike was designed
Im getting the 14 soon and I was under the impression that it was a 400 percent not 300 increase to pedal input like you said ..
That is the case these days! You can always check the latest spec on motors here: www.bosch-ebike.com/us/products/cargo-line
Question: I have a favorite bike seat. With the new GSD, is it easy to switch out the seat or do Tern bikes have unique attachments for seat rails? I like the concept of GSD's seat with the handle on the back but I prefer to use the seat that fits my body the best.
Yes, it is easy to swap out saddles on the GSD
My community is not well adapted for bicycles. I have multiple intersections where I have to cross major highways in traffic.
Getting across quickly is the only way to avoid getting hit.
Pedal assist only is not quick enough. Do these have a throttle option so I can scoot across 8 lanes of traffic before the light changes?
these do not have a throttle
With pedal assist you can ride longer routes, so maybe a few miles can help you to circumvent insecure intersections. The shortest route is usually not the nicest.
@@RolandRides I'm well aware of what pedal assist is. I've built a BBSHD based cargo bike built onto a Yuba Boda Boda.
I can either cross at least 2 highways, or break the law and ride on a restricted access highway for 6 miles each way and become street pizza on the ramps.
Those are the only two options. This option is the longer route by an additional 4.5 miles.
I don't take kindly to being spoken to like I'm a child or an idiot. If you didn't mean to talk down to me, maybe think about rephrasing your comments.
@@Paladinbr if you know everything, don't fuss and deal with your options.
@@RolandRides I didn't know whether the new model would incorporate a throttle. Hence why I asked.
I prefaced the question with a statement about the situation in an attempt to head off items like your interjection.
I don't know everything. Unlike you however, I don't assume others are idiots too stupid to map potential routes and weight potential risks.
Is there a TERN Dealer in Austria ???
I could use a good video on how to change the rear tire and tube.
How is on gravel or similar off road situations?
Hard pack dirt it is fine, not really meant for washboard or hard bumps. Where are you thinking?
@@BikeShopGirl Hi. I am in the Seattle area. Lots of paved paths but I would like flexibility for hardback first with bumps here and there. Certainly nothing that would qualify as mountain biking or switchback or single track, but yes to fire roads and the like. I am currently struggling to select between this bike and an R&M
Is it available in the USA
Depending on the model they will be available between December and January in the US! Reach out to your local dealer to see if they have any on order.
Tern USA also distributes CarlaCargo, right? 🤔
Yep! Let me know if you have questions.
Bello information 🍒🇵🇰🍓
You left the keys in the lock!
Those are retaining keys, legally required in the EU so all frame locks on Terns have a retaining frame lock where if the lock is unlocked the key is in. To get the key out the lock has to be locked.
@@BikeShopGirl interesting to know!
My very important question is whether the S00 comes in pink I mean dragonfruit!
It is a very important question. It doesn’t :( just available in S10 LX.
@@BikeShopGirl people in gross climates also want pink bikes!
Wow, and now they're a bunch of money more.
Yeh, between shipping, labor, and material cost.