And breaking his kid's arm, drastically changed the whole dynamic between him and Wendy. Their marriage hadn't been the same ever since, and was already strained.
Which bothered Stephen King immensely. The book version of Jack Torrance had a slow and gradual descent into madness while Kubrick's version had him crazy from the get-go, almost seemingly ready to go into a psychopathic meltdown.
Actually, it's really poorly done. The problem with this movie is Jack Nicholson. He plays an angry, sadistic individual from the very start. The audience itself is never once going "Oh shit, Jack has gone crazy" because he's crazy from this scene forwards. I want people to take Jack Nicholson out of this movie and take a look at the other characters. You don't feel for any of them. None of them are 'special' and when I watch this movie, I root for Jack the whole time. Danny and Wendy are both just irritating, and I just want them to shut the hell up. This movie missed the climax, because there isn't one. The shining isn't even a concept at all. You never see what Danny is capable of, you never see him contact Dick Hallorann. The movie sets up for this when Dick and Danny (wow that could be a comedy) are talking, but the movie never does anything with it. This movie... Is an average 5/10. But people loose their shit because, of course they do...
@@zzzhuh I agree with that. However, I feel that the movie version of Jack was a more realistic version of a man frustrated with his life on the brink of lashing out on his family. All it took was the feeling of cabin fever and being stuck snowbound in the Overlook to finally make him snap. It seems like a more scary and realistic version of a dysfunctional marriage compared to the more supernatural version in the book. But that's just my take on it.
@@zzzhuh I disagree. First of all, we DO see Danny contact Dick via Shining, albeit involuntarily and it leads to Dick going back to the hotel. He dies there in the movie, but he brings a vehicle that Wendy and Danny can use for their escape, as Jack already sabotaged their own vehicles to prevent just that. Jack already being a troubled guy from the start is part of the danger of the hotel for me. Due to him already being a man with anger issues, a recovering alcoholic and being frustrated with the overall situation, he's more succeptible to the hotel's influence. Wendy is irritating at points yes, but also sympathetic when you look at the asshole she's married to. I mean the tension in this car ride alone is so uncomfortable. She tries to break it up by a bit of small talk, and runs against a brick wall. I surprisingly never thought of Danny as irritating, which kid characters in movies usually are, but he does a fine job throughout the movie I think. And the climax is Jack finally going completely bonkers and trying to kill them. There is a mighty difference between just being angry (I don't see any sadism in his early scenes) and being a homicidal ax-weilding maniac, so yes we do see Jack lose himself more and more over the course of the movie, which finally culminates in his rampage, which in turn powers up the hotel to the point that even Wendy can see the hauntings now. And in the end, while she and Danny escape, the hotel gobbels up Jack's soul. Forever trapped in the Overlook along with all the other people who died there. A scary open end, as the hotel still exists at the end of the movie, waiting for the next poor caretaker to end up like Jack and Grady. Also, the movie isn't being beloved as a masterpiece for having the most groundbreaking story or characters, but for the atmosphere of isolation and dread it creates due to its cinematography, it's musical score and Nicholson's performance. Kubrick uses the full potential of an audiovisual medium to tell the story with barely any exposition dialogue needed. The use of steadycam alone was revolutionary back then and provided some of the greatest tracking shots in movie history.
I find it even more bizarre that Wendy is the first one to be reminded of the Donner party after Danny brings up his hunger. "We'll get you something to eat at the hotel, sweetie. Hey, remember that band of settlers that fell to cannibalism?" Jack isn't the only crazy go nuts in this car, you know.
Best depiction of a dry drunk in cinema. Jack hates his family because they "keep" him away from booze. The resentment of the dry drunk is portrayed brilliantly.
He was in a position and life where he never felt he belonged and felt deeply unfulfilled. Until he went to the Hotel, which turned out to be his grisly destiny in every incarnation, to continue as his original purpose "the Caretaker" (with ultimately the reason to kill his family then himself so the hotel could once again claim his soul but also his family's souls too).
***** It's on CZcams somewhere because I've found it before, but I've been looking recently and I could find every piece of music in the film except for this, so you might have to dig for it
His biggest regret was leaving the Navy, changing his name, and having a family. When he was in the Navy, everyone called him "Badass", and he loved it. He drank a lot of Schlitz in the Navy, and once had "Chaser" duty, where he and another Petty Officer escorted a 19 y/o kid to prison because he tried to steal $40.00 out of a charity box - he got eight years for that. The kid got out early after serving only two years in prison, had his record expunged, and became a crop duster pilot, making a false claim that he had flown for the Navy in Vietnam. He had been arrested several times, and claimed he was abducted and probed by aliens. On July 4, 1996, he hopped into an F-18 fighter, claiming he was going to attack the "aliens" kamikaze style; he was never seen again.
Who the fuck at first glance do you meet who has a face that you trust , stupid sentiment sir , and If you do feel someone you first meet has a face you think you can trust , them your stupid
They way you summed him up so beautifully with such little words. Outstanding description that explains it all. Almost as if you knew what the director was aiming for
People who are saying Wendy is irritating: why the hell do you have a bad opinion of Wendy? She's my favorite character from the movie... She's a poor housewive who has to follow her husband to an isolated place (that's awful per se), then he turns agresive toward their son and towards her... And she alone has to protect her son and herself from her husband until they finally escape. I don't get why people find her weak. To me, she's the hero in the movie, just a very realistic hero, instead of the cocky heroes we're used to see in movies and series.
Agreed, same thing with Jack and everything really, even though it’s got all of the supernatural elements of the hotel or whatever you’d like to call it, I’d say that the characters and emotions in this movie are extremely realistic in so many ways
I agree. Although Jack is physically the strongest, Wendy is mentally stronger than Jack and his son is smarter. I believe Danny deliberately lets Jack out the larder so he can lure him to the maze. He knows disturbed Jack will get lost and freeze to death. It's the only way a boy is going to take on an adult male and stand a chance. He does this to protect his Mother. He knows keeping a shouting Jack in the larder for weeks isn’t realistic.
I always remember her character for some reason, I always take pity on her for the reasons you mentioned. Seems like a good person who is dragged into unfortunate circumstances
True i feel the same way, although i used to think she could be annoying but that's only when I'm feeling like Jack, she's definitely the hero in this film
"See it's ok he saw it on the television"Love Jack's devilish grin after he says that line, what a lovely story to tell your son. Jack Torrance seemed a little OFF long before he went into the Overlook Hotel lol..... it also seems like at any minute Jack could throw his wife and son out of the car if they say another word or ask another question lol
He had already been to the overlook hotel for the interview, before bringing his family up. But he had already been violent to Danny and his wife before
God bless Shelley Duvall. She's such an amazing actress and I feel bad the amount she went through in this film. This scene in general is absolute perfection and everyones acting throughout the film is world class. There's not another movie I've ever seen where ever scene is this replayable
It's really sad what happened to The actress. She apparently got schizophrenia early on in life and went downhill. She was beautiful and very talented.
@@londonmaths1557 She definitely played the role of someone I'd like to kill with an axe, quite well. IDK how you can view her acting in this film though and find it great. Its at times fairly laughable. And the only ones that have her showing any real emotion is because Kubrick had her basically in tears during those scenes. But she's far from the only actress/actor that Hollywood ate up and spit out.
Shelly Duval's performance was Oscar worthy indeed! The academy( at the time didn't like the film). I am so thankful for her diligence. May God bless her.
I couldn’t agree more. This scene is one of my favorites. The acting, the story telling, setting the mood for what’s to come, and the music is right there with it every second!
It makes me depressed for some reason. Such beautiful grandeur of nature superposing over the small existence of a few humans. Are the humans that are there are so isolated. Really makes you think about how weak our existence is. Sorry for the existential crisis but that shot just triggers it.
I always likened those 20 seconds (and the rest of the intro) to an all-powerful, omniscient evil spirit flying over the land that it controls and haunts.
This music was created with a specially made instrument called a "circon" (circular controller) by composer Wendy Carlos. It was used only for the scene where Jack drives his family to the Overlook. Google "Wendy Carlos circon" to see pictures of it.
You can see Jack Torrance hates being a husband and father; he's restraining himself from saying "No shit!" when Wendy says "The air feels so different." And he gleefully tells Danny the story of the Donner Party, hoping to freak him out, but gets annoyed again when it doesn't work--he can only get sarcastic and say "He saw it on the television!" This guy is just being eaten alive, knowing that he's a failed writer and probably won't do anything of consequence with his life.
Ilian Lux Oswald was an ordinary face in the crowd. He was a nobody who wanted to be like Napoleon or Hitler or the president of the united states. I think I was watching a lot of documentaries on JFK and oswald before coming to this. And I suppose jack wants to be a fancy writer but really he is just a little man with no real capacity to step out of his bland reality of being a insignificant nobody and that little character detail is a part of why he hates his family a tries to kill them.
TM Rezzek I must have seen this film more than half a dozen times , and every time I see this scene , it always seem like Jack is restraining himself from saying that when Wendy yawns , and says " Boy , the air feels so different " !!!
@@nonplayerzealot4 omg stop being a neckbeard tiping his fedora your like one of those nice guys or incels thinking women are in the wrong when you wont even look at yourself in the mirror to see what the hell is wrong with you.
Growing up, I thought she was magnetic! Her eyes expressed the most honest fear I’ve ever seen anyone express, and she looks like the kindest woman you would ever meet. Her Wendy was the perfect contrast to Jack Torrance’s character. Bravo! 👏🌹
The genius of this scene was being able to tell how much he hated his family without explicitly stating it. Even in how he didn’t hold back in telling his son what the Donner party was alluded to a total disregard in preserving his son’s innocence.
@@SRBOMBONICA86 He may have loved his wife and kid in the past but here you can tell he feels stuck with them. He probably wanted to divorce his wife. Being snowbound in a haunted hotel was enough to make him pop
As the previous comment said, he was a recovering Alcoholic. it is INCREDIBLY Hard to be all Cheerful and shit when you literally wanna die at any given moment lol @@thebanished87
I get where King was coming from with Jack being a troubled but decent man preyed upon by evil metaphysical forces, but having Jack be an almost psychopath with psychotic tendencies before he gets to the Overlook Hotel is just as realistic psychologically and just as disturbing. He might have wanted to butcher his family even without the supernatural elements. People like that are out there, and it makes the supernatural element even more terrifying, since it is just more oil on a nascent flame.
The Addams staying at the Overlook would be a hilarious crossover. The Hotel would try and try to drive them crazy, and they’d just laugh it off and think it was great fun.
My God the Addams family at the Overlook I can see it now. "Mr. Addams if I may be blunt I think your children need to be corrected." "Grady my good fellow, me and Morticia have been correcting them for years, but they just don't seem happy. Pugsly seems to have an axe to grind. Great party out there though, what a wild scene! I haven't seen my Great Uncle in years, he looks positively ghoulish. Here keep the change!"
@@magicaltour1I agree,that sounds like a great idea to put the Addams in the overlook hotel for a crossover series.seeing them think the ghosts were just fun while the hotel tries to make them kill each other,but they don’t do that would be great.
You can tell Jack absolutely hates having a wife and kid. He should have listened long ago when his inner self told him he's the lone wolf type. Just making small talk in the car is driving him crazy.
From what I heard, Danny didn't know he was in a horror movie. Props to him for doing what adult actors struggle to do for years. Act along side Jack without noticing anything creepy.
Kubrick did that in order to protect Danny. He's a little boy who still needed his innocence, so Stanley made sure not to traumatize him at all during filming.
@@Jack574. although Stanley was wrong he did not do it with ill intent nor was he being malicious. If you go back and watch behind the scene footage, Stanley was not being as over the top as you all make it seem
@@mariahyohannesI mean she did tell him that her hair was falling out and he responded saying he has no sympathy for her. I'm not saying the way she is today is because of the film, but he was really callous towards her.
Yep. That crazy 1. Jack Nicholson smile 2. Jack Nicholson moment 3. Jack Nicholson argument with his wife not to interrupt his writing 4. Jack Nicholson drink 5. Jack Nicholson ghost encounter 6. Jack Nicholson bar 7. Jack Nicholson vacation
Really good eerie music that plays in the background. Nothing obviously bad is happening here but you already feel uncomfortable and anxious by this whole scene.
I understand Stephen King when he says that this movie has little to do with his vision on the novel, but just look at Nicholson... He made this one of the greatest horror movies ever.
In the movie, Shelley Duvall (Wendy) is a smoker. She smokes in several scenes. Naturally, because of the thin air due to high altitude, Shelley is going to feel the change more profoundly because she smokes. Danny doesn't smoke and Jack only smokes occasionally in the movie, so they don't notice it as much.
I read a book about the donner party. It was more horrifying than I could have possibly imagined. One of the survivors said that a man was so hungry he tried to kill a bear with his own hands. When it mauled him to death the rest of the group had to watch it eat his carcass. Then they ate what was left.
“The Shining is a great book.” “Oh yeah. I know all about The Shining. I saw the movie on television.” **Gives sarcastic glaring grin** “Yeah, it’s okay. He saw it on his television.”
Wendy brings up the Donner Party out of nowhere. Danny, being an inquisitive child, wants to know who they were. Jack, being a good dad and following Wendy's lead, answers his son's question. Wemdy chides Jack for finishing what she started. Jack corrects her...
That’s not true as weird as it is I can see this as him just trying to focus on a long drive my dad is a good guy and has his problems but reminded me of jack in the car ride kind of short with people ynow?
I find it funny from just the way Jack says that Danny learnt about canabilisme from the Televison. Almost like as if Jack is thinking, "Look Wendy, Danny is going to learn about the dark sides of life one way or another ether way". The face expresions that Jack gives in this scene are funny and at the same time scary, and he has not even gone carzy yet.
Yeah she's like "really jack? Cannabilism?" "Teaching our Danny about cannibalism?" And Danny says "it's OK mom I learned all about cannibals on TV" and Jack has the face and smile that screams GOTCHYA BITCH!! HEHEHEHE
That droning music as we fade into the clouds is mesmerizing. I find myself humming that tune regularly. The noise goes deeper and deeper while the camera gives the impression that something is following them all the way up that mountain.
@JC I’ll be honest with you, I’m really disappointed considering it has been deleted, and there doesn’t seem to be another recording, so it’s gone, sorry.
@@polaroidproductions3198 Damm it man am looking all over the web there is none... wow such a shame, the piece is so enigmatic. I never heard the whole composition.
Aside form all the subtextual brilliance in this scene story wise.. on a technical level this is one of the most brilliantly executed “poor man’s” car scenes. The mountains in the background are being projected on a screen during this scene as the car is being filmed in a studio. The crew shakes the car and controls the lighting on the actors’ faces to simulate passing trees etc. brilliant.
I Like ya Jack!!.....I've always liked ya!!!! You've always been the best of 'em!!! .......Best Goddamned Actor from Timbuktu to Portland, Maine.....or Portland, Oregon for that matter!!!
I imagine Jack's thinking: "C'mon Jack, hold it out... just a few more lines about cannibalism and you're at the Overlook, restrain yourself from ripping their vocal cords out... the new car is almost yours!"
The specific track to this scene is not only my favorite piece of this movie's soundtrack but probably my favorite piece of horror movie music full stop. It perfectly creates a sense of impending doom that you feel like you can reach out and grab and put in your pocket, which then becomes a portal to hell. The movement of the music seems dialed in to Jack's dialogue and face acting, and the foreshadowing discussion of the Donner party, and being snowbound, and seeing things on television allegedly being a reason not to worry, it's like this piece of soundtrack encapsulates the whole movie.
Danilo Pochini my dad and his friend remember dying of laughter when that happened when they saw this movie in the cinema when it came out when they were 11 and they snuck in to see it
Before Jack drinks the whiskey from Lloyd, he says "Here's to five miserable months on the wagon...and all the irreparable harm it's caused me." The donner party was stranded for five months as well.
I just noticed Jack’s temperament here different than earlier, pretty much when Wendy says she notices a change in the air. So much subtext crammed into one scene, one of the reasons Kubrick was a master. Amazing how there can still be new and interesting things to discover even after watching a thousand times.
@@person92906 the actor doesn’t write the dialogue, though. Or direct the action. Or have any say whether they do 100 takes of a scene until they get it right. Watch Kubrick’s Boxes to get an idea of how meticulous this man was.
The Overlook Hotel didn't make Jack crazy, it just manipulated him to give into his darkest impulses. You can really see in this scene that Jack already hates his family. All he needed was another drink..
I ahve this book, without seeing the movie, and wow. Just what an amazing performance Nicholson gave, as well as all of them. As others mentioned here, he really does give off the dry alcoholic vibe in regards to his family.
The edge of insanity is inscribed all over his whimsical face. It takes masterful direction regarding sequence of events to be able to pull off this character for two hours. What a film.
Finally after all these years you can now download the main theme and the background track to this scene by Wendy Carlos on iTunes. These were previously only available on the original vinyl soundtrack which was very hard to find and expensive.
I think we are supposed to be asking ourselves, why is Jack so cranky? Why is Wendy so oblivious? Seems a bit off. Danny is a pretty normal little kid in this scene, though. Unlike others, where adults try to talk to him and he just stares or gives one word answers.
This is so underrated, my favourite scene of the movie, can you believe? Damn, the older I get, the more I imagine with every line, this movie is terrifying close to reality. TV as a program, altitude as a channel. As a kid I thought they were talking about the Andes plane disaster, another obscure thing my Dad told me about that time.
Many say that Jack was always evil. I don't think that's necessarily the case, ariund the middle if the film when he dreans about killing Danny and his wife, he wakes up crying and clearly traumiatised. But he was a flawed enough person for the hotel that sink its claws in and send him spiralling into madness.
Jack seemed crazy before they even got to the hotel.
Yet he didn’t have murderous impulses just yet.
The eye brows have it!
well he certainly got issues with his temper before. He broke his kids arm by "accident" as mentioned later in the movie.
And breaking his kid's arm, drastically changed the whole dynamic between him and Wendy. Their marriage hadn't been the same ever since, and was already strained.
Which bothered Stephen King immensely. The book version of Jack Torrance had a slow and gradual descent into madness while Kubrick's version had him crazy from the get-go, almost seemingly ready to go into a psychopathic meltdown.
You can see he's already struggling. Just how annoyed he is with his family. He's trying not to scream at them.
See. It's ok. He saw it on the television
Lmao BAWHAHAHA LOL funny
Deadshovel don’t axe me bruv
Actually, it's really poorly done.
The problem with this movie is Jack Nicholson. He plays an angry, sadistic individual from the very start. The audience itself is never once going "Oh shit, Jack has gone crazy" because he's crazy from this scene forwards.
I want people to take Jack Nicholson out of this movie and take a look at the other characters. You don't feel for any of them. None of them are 'special' and when I watch this movie, I root for Jack the whole time. Danny and Wendy are both just irritating, and I just want them to shut the hell up.
This movie missed the climax, because there isn't one. The shining isn't even a concept at all. You never see what Danny is capable of, you never see him contact Dick Hallorann. The movie sets up for this when Dick and Danny (wow that could be a comedy) are talking, but the movie never does anything with it.
This movie... Is an average 5/10. But people loose their shit because, of course they do...
@@zzzhuh I agree with that. However, I feel that the movie version of Jack was a more realistic version of a man frustrated with his life on the brink of lashing out on his family. All it took was the feeling of cabin fever and being stuck snowbound in the Overlook to finally make him snap. It seems like a more scary and realistic version of a dysfunctional marriage compared to the more supernatural version in the book. But that's just my take on it.
@@zzzhuh I disagree. First of all, we DO see Danny contact Dick via Shining, albeit involuntarily and it leads to Dick going back to the hotel. He dies there in the movie, but he brings a vehicle that Wendy and Danny can use for their escape, as Jack already sabotaged their own vehicles to prevent just that.
Jack already being a troubled guy from the start is part of the danger of the hotel for me. Due to him already being a man with anger issues, a recovering alcoholic and being frustrated with the overall situation, he's more succeptible to the hotel's influence.
Wendy is irritating at points yes, but also sympathetic when you look at the asshole she's married to. I mean the tension in this car ride alone is so uncomfortable. She tries to break it up by a bit of small talk, and runs against a brick wall.
I surprisingly never thought of Danny as irritating, which kid characters in movies usually are, but he does a fine job throughout the movie I think.
And the climax is Jack finally going completely bonkers and trying to kill them. There is a mighty difference between just being angry (I don't see any sadism in his early scenes) and being a homicidal ax-weilding maniac, so yes we do see Jack lose himself more and more over the course of the movie, which finally culminates in his rampage, which in turn powers up the hotel to the point that even Wendy can see the hauntings now.
And in the end, while she and Danny escape, the hotel gobbels up Jack's soul. Forever trapped in the Overlook along with all the other people who died there. A scary open end, as the hotel still exists at the end of the movie, waiting for the next poor caretaker to end up like Jack and Grady.
Also, the movie isn't being beloved as a masterpiece for having the most groundbreaking story or characters, but for the atmosphere of isolation and dread it creates due to its cinematography, it's musical score and Nicholson's performance. Kubrick uses the full potential of an audiovisual medium to tell the story with barely any exposition dialogue needed. The use of steadycam alone was revolutionary back then and provided some of the greatest tracking shots in movie history.
Love it when Jack cheers up when the conversation shifts to discussing cannibalism. He’s like “finally, something I’m interested in”
Never noticed that before. Great observation
He should never have started a family with the way he obviously can't stand them
I find it even more bizarre that Wendy is the first one to be reminded of the Donner party after Danny brings up his hunger. "We'll get you something to eat at the hotel, sweetie. Hey, remember that band of settlers that fell to cannibalism?" Jack isn't the only crazy go nuts in this car, you know.
@@cinekodakexp I'm glad somebody else notices this.
@@cinekodakexp She brought up the Donner Party, then seemed upset Jack explained when Danny askrd about it.
Jack's facial expressions are hilarious and frightening
oh yeah. Pause at 1:32. Looks like a fucking demon.
Funny thing, in the novel, Jack was more of a light hearted father, which was one thing they got wrong in Kubrick’s version.
...frightening
YOU can tell he doesn't want to be bothered. Hahahaha. He's all disgruntled. Lmao BAWHAHAHA
@@HikoHikoHikoshi nothing like the book. the book is simple.
Best depiction of a dry drunk in cinema. Jack hates his family because they "keep" him away from booze. The resentment of the dry drunk is portrayed brilliantly.
Alcohol has done more harm to society than good. How is it not banned if weed is. Only Medical alcohol should be legal, just like weed.
@@raam726 There was the Prohibition, which in turn invented NASCAR.
@@raam726 I prefer that both are legalized instead of implementing more government control
@@201hastings as Jules would say: "correctamundo!"
That's a great observation.
He obviously hates his family.
fg or just in general his life and he seems like an outcast to the world
In the movie it seems that way. In the book it’s different. He talks about how much he loves Danny and Wendy in I believe the 5th or so chapter.
That was intentional according to Kubrick.
He was in a position and life where he never felt he belonged and felt deeply unfulfilled. Until he went to the Hotel, which turned out to be his grisly destiny in every incarnation, to continue as his original purpose "the Caretaker" (with ultimately the reason to kill his family then himself so the hotel could once again claim his soul but also his family's souls too).
No wonder he drank.
The music is so perfect for this scene
+DrunkenM33rkat what is the name of the song in this scene?
google it
***** All the music in the shining are covers of classical compositions so the music is timeless.
***** It's on CZcams somewhere because I've found it before, but I've been looking recently and I could find every piece of music in the film except for this, so you might have to dig for it
The song is called rocky mountains
Jack does not have a face you can trust. That's why he was perfect for this role. It's just a thin veil of politeness.
His biggest regret was leaving the Navy, changing his name, and having a family.
When he was in the Navy, everyone called him "Badass", and he loved it.
He drank a lot of Schlitz in the Navy, and once had "Chaser" duty, where he and another Petty Officer escorted a 19 y/o kid to prison because he tried to steal $40.00 out of a charity box - he got eight years for that.
The kid got out early after serving only two years in prison, had his record expunged, and became a crop duster pilot, making a false claim that he had flown for the Navy in Vietnam.
He had been arrested several times, and claimed he was abducted and probed by aliens.
On July 4, 1996, he hopped into an F-18 fighter, claiming he was going to attack the "aliens" kamikaze style; he was never seen again.
Who the fuck at first glance do you meet who has a face that you trust , stupid sentiment sir , and If you do feel someone you first meet has a face you think you can trust , them your stupid
@@light106year6 * you're
They way you summed him up so beautifully with such little words. Outstanding description that explains it all. Almost as if you knew what the director was aiming for
Oh come on...you can trust me
See... It's ok, he saw on the television...
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*Driving Intensifies*
For a moment he had a “that’s my boy” look
@@sweetcinnamonpnchkin lol yea, he got proud of daddy’s boy for an moment, “he’ll enjoy being murdered, nice”
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People who are saying Wendy is irritating: why the hell do you have a bad opinion of Wendy? She's my favorite character from the movie... She's a poor housewive who has to follow her husband to an isolated place (that's awful per se), then he turns agresive toward their son and towards her... And she alone has to protect her son and herself from her husband until they finally escape. I don't get why people find her weak. To me, she's the hero in the movie, just a very realistic hero, instead of the cocky heroes we're used to see in movies and series.
Agreed, same thing with Jack and everything really, even though it’s got all of the supernatural elements of the hotel or whatever you’d like to call it, I’d say that the characters and emotions in this movie are extremely realistic in so many ways
I agree. Although Jack is physically the strongest, Wendy is mentally stronger than Jack and his son is smarter. I believe Danny deliberately lets Jack out the larder so he can lure him to the maze. He knows disturbed Jack will get lost and freeze to death. It's the only way a boy is going to take on an adult male and stand a chance. He does this to protect his Mother. He knows keeping a shouting Jack in the larder for weeks isn’t realistic.
And she was the one doing Jack's work other than being a wife when Jack had to do was just to type on his typewriter. 🤦
I always remember her character for some reason, I always take pity on her for the reasons you mentioned. Seems like a good person who is dragged into unfortunate circumstances
True i feel the same way, although i used to think she could be annoying but that's only when I'm feeling like Jack, she's definitely the hero in this film
"See it's ok he saw it on the television"Love Jack's devilish grin after he says that line, what a lovely story to tell your son. Jack Torrance seemed a little OFF long before he went into the Overlook Hotel lol..... it also seems like at any minute Jack could throw his wife and son out of the car if they say another word or ask another question lol
My dad was like that... a nightmare to drive with sometimes. We drove across Europe twice... I feared for my life at one point.
Still, RIP
He had already been to the overlook hotel for the interview, before bringing his family up. But he had already been violent to Danny and his wife before
Kkk Very true
😂😅 Irony of ironies, though...
It's Wendy who brings up the subject of the Donner Party!
0:31 - "Dad, I'm hungry. Well you should have eaten your breakfast. " ---Typical dad response when driving in a remote place...
I heard my mother say that quite a few times. Typical old time parenting, along with "Come here, I'll give you something to cry about."
I’m lucky my mum always brings snacks
God bless Shelley Duvall. She's such an amazing actress and I feel bad the amount she went through in this film. This scene in general is absolute perfection and everyones acting throughout the film is world class. There's not another movie I've ever seen where ever scene is this replayable
It's really sad what happened to The actress. She apparently got schizophrenia early on in life and went downhill. She was beautiful and very talented.
have no idea why they shat on her so much for this film i think she did a great job
@@londonmaths1557 She definitely played the role of someone I'd like to kill with an axe, quite well. IDK how you can view her acting in this film though and find it great. Its at times fairly laughable. And the only ones that have her showing any real emotion is because Kubrick had her basically in tears during those scenes.
But she's far from the only actress/actor that Hollywood ate up and spit out.
@@londonmaths1557 Oscar-worthy, far as I'm concerned. To hell with the haters!
Shelly Duval's performance was Oscar worthy indeed! The academy( at the time didn't like the film). I am so thankful for her diligence. May God bless her.
The creepy music aside, that place was breathtakingly beautiful.
The Music in the Shining is as bout 500 years old and spooky
Thanks to Wendy Carlos
Any idea where this car scene was shot ? Looks beautiful
@@smellypatel5272 In stage,every scene where you see actors in this movie has been shot in stage in England,but that landscape shot in Montana
@@jambo8392 Montana, go figure. Such a beautiful, albeit desolate place to live.
The music is godlike.
It's almost telling the story of Jack's slow descent into madness alone. I cannot credit it enough
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart .
@@bigbear5767 the truth can't be kept to itself. It must come out to battle evil
I couldn’t agree more. This scene is one of my favorites. The acting, the story telling, setting the mood for what’s to come, and the music is right there with it every second!
All the sound and music in kubricks movies are amazing
Dies Irae
Those eyebrows.
Jam Lym jack is the man
He would've made a perfect wolverine in my opinion
Eyebrows of a madman
Leo Di Caprio does a great imitation. Look it up.
@@Utrekz you know it bro ✊
The first 20 seconds of the soundtrack are absolutely amazing as the camera pans over the mountains and pine trees. Truly an epic sight.
It makes me depressed for some reason. Such beautiful grandeur of nature superposing over the small existence of a few humans. Are the humans that are there are so isolated. Really makes you think about how weak our existence is. Sorry for the existential crisis but that shot just triggers it.
I always likened those 20 seconds (and the rest of the intro) to an all-powerful, omniscient evil spirit flying over the land that it controls and haunts.
Finally I see someone praising that!!
This music was created with a specially made instrument called a "circon" (circular controller) by composer Wendy Carlos. It was used only for the scene where Jack drives his family to the Overlook. Google "Wendy Carlos circon" to see pictures of it.
As you probably already know, it’s “Rocky Mountains” by Wendy Carlos. Definitely worth it to listen to it in its entirety
That score. Wow. The music is realy creepy AND yet so satisfying. Love it
Creepy music usually is also satisfying
@@sepultura7771
Love me some old school SEPULTURA
hell yeahhhhhh. 🤘🤘🏻🤘🤘🏻🤘🤘🏻🤘🤘🏻🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
If I had Jack Tourence as my dad, I think I would put myself up for adoption.
Or abortion
He'll correct you
Many of my friends say my dad reminds them of Jack Torrance for the way he acts can’t blame them though
You can see Jack Torrance hates being a husband and father; he's restraining himself from saying "No shit!" when Wendy says "The air feels so different." And he gleefully tells Danny the story of the Donner Party, hoping to freak him out, but gets annoyed again when it doesn't work--he can only get sarcastic and say "He saw it on the television!" This guy is just being eaten alive, knowing that he's a failed writer and probably won't do anything of consequence with his life.
TM Rezzek yeah .. this kind of reminds me of Lee Harvey oswald
Brett Wyatt why is that?
Ilian Lux Oswald was an ordinary face in the crowd. He was a nobody who wanted to be like Napoleon or Hitler or the president of the united states. I think I was watching a lot of documentaries on JFK and oswald before coming to this. And I suppose jack wants to be a fancy writer but really he is just a little man with no real capacity to step out of his bland reality of being a insignificant nobody and that little character detail is a part of why he hates his family a tries to kill them.
TM Rezzek I must have seen this film more than half a dozen times , and every time I see this scene , it always seem like Jack is restraining himself from saying that when Wendy yawns , and says " Boy , the air feels so different " !!!
Mad Magazine had a field day with " The Shining " !!!
You can tell from this scene that this was not a happy marriage between Jack and Wendy bc there just seems to be no chemistry between the 2.
@@nonplayerzealot4 Dude, even as a male myself, I can say you sound like a shit filled douchebag.
@@Shadywolf09 no bazil
@@nonplayerzealot4 omg stop being a neckbeard tiping his fedora your like one of those nice guys or incels thinking women are in the wrong when you wont even look at yourself in the mirror to see what the hell is wrong with you.
Tiffany Ray Agreed he needs to go back to his Mountain Dew and Doritos
So true. The worst marriage chemistry ive ever seen in a movie
Growing up, I thought she was magnetic! Her eyes expressed the most honest fear I’ve ever seen anyone express, and she looks like the kindest woman you would ever meet. Her Wendy was the perfect contrast to Jack Torrance’s character. Bravo! 👏🌹
Learn about the Wendy theory by jack navarro. You will be amazed
Ok I will!@@m.n.s.s2825
The genius of this scene was being able to tell how much he hated his family without explicitly stating it. Even in how he didn’t hold back in telling his son what the Donner party was alluded to a total disregard in preserving his son’s innocence.
I don't see it as hatred ,he is an ex alcoholic,they are ,moody,tired, impatient, but I think he genuinely loved them ,he hated himself the most
@@SRBOMBONICA86 He may have loved his wife and kid in the past but here you can tell he feels stuck with them. He probably wanted to divorce his wife. Being snowbound in a haunted hotel was enough to make him pop
As the previous comment said, he was a recovering Alcoholic. it is INCREDIBLY Hard to be all Cheerful and shit when you literally wanna die at any given moment lol @@thebanished87
That synthesizer is so damn chilling.
The music alone tells the entire story. They're going to their doom. They will never leave that place.
Danny and Wendy got out in the Snow Cat that Scatman drove in on.
Or did they...?
The music AND Jack's face at 1:31.
Two of them did though. ;~D
There's always a piece of Wendy and Danny on that mountain.
"see!...it's okay. He saw on the television" I use that line every chance i get. Mad smile and everything. haha!
typical family conversation: talk about cannibalism
the soundtrack to this scene is one of the most underrated moments in the entire film. It feels so ahead of its time.
Ikr, 1:37 onwards is just plain scary
That awkward moment you realize that Jack smiles when he learns that Danny learned about cannibalism on TV.
Don't tell me that TV isn't educational haha!
I get where King was coming from with Jack being a troubled but decent man preyed upon by evil metaphysical forces, but having Jack be an almost psychopath with psychotic tendencies before he gets to the Overlook Hotel is just as realistic psychologically and just as disturbing. He might have wanted to butcher his family even without the supernatural elements. People like that are out there, and it makes the supernatural element even more terrifying, since it is just more oil on a nascent flame.
His face after the, “should’ve eaten your breakfast,” line. He really didn’t give a shit about Danny at all.
I like how the conversation easily went from Danny being hungry to talking about cannibalism. This family is worse than the Addams Family.
To be fair the Addams Family were happier and more functional than most normal families I know 😂
@@preparetoholdyourcolour7080 Morticia and Gomez had one of the happiest marriages I have seen on TV/film.
The Addams staying at the Overlook would be a hilarious crossover. The Hotel would try and try to drive them crazy, and they’d just laugh it off and think it was great fun.
My God the Addams family at the Overlook I can see it now.
"Mr. Addams if I may be blunt I think your children need to be corrected."
"Grady my good fellow, me and Morticia have been correcting them for years, but they just don't seem happy. Pugsly seems to have an axe to grind. Great party out there though, what a wild scene! I haven't seen my Great Uncle in years, he looks positively ghoulish. Here keep the change!"
@@magicaltour1I agree,that sounds like a great idea to put the Addams in the overlook hotel for a crossover series.seeing them think the ghosts were just fun while the hotel tries to make them kill each other,but they don’t do that would be great.
You can tell Jack absolutely hates having a wife and kid. He should have listened long ago when his inner self told him he's the lone wolf type. Just making small talk in the car is driving him crazy.
From what I heard, Danny didn't know he was in a horror movie. Props to him for doing what adult actors struggle to do for years. Act along side Jack without noticing anything creepy.
Kubrick did that in order to protect Danny. He's a little boy who still needed his innocence, so Stanley made sure not to traumatize him at all during filming.
@@Shadywolf09 yeah some hero, he left all the traumatizing to Shelly
@@Jack574. although Stanley was wrong he did not do it with ill intent nor was he being malicious. If you go back and watch behind the scene footage, Stanley was not being as over the top as you all make it seem
Bro? He had like 50 scenes in which he's screaming his lungs out, having wild strokes, and running for his life.
Dumb mf
@@mariahyohannesI mean she did tell him that her hair was falling out and he responded saying he has no sympathy for her. I'm not saying the way she is today is because of the film, but he was really callous towards her.
Imagine this during this coronavirus epidemic. A couple of weeks of isolation with the family. What can go wrong?
All
Work
No
Okay
Yes...weeks....
Just have your favorite pulled pork recipe ready.
@@ViratNimesh All play and no.work made jack a psychopath
@@crypticwintermoon6284 online classes and no parties makes jack a dull boy
“See? It’s ok; he saw it on the television” hilarious line. Love the way jack Nicholson delivers it.
Me too.
😂😅 Jack Nicholson is well known for his anti-television sentiments!
Jack Torrance wasn’t crazy the whole time!!!
That was Jack Nicholson.
Yep. That crazy
1. Jack Nicholson smile
2. Jack Nicholson moment
3. Jack Nicholson argument with his wife not to interrupt his writing
4. Jack Nicholson drink
5. Jack Nicholson ghost encounter
6. Jack Nicholson bar
7. Jack Nicholson vacation
Best music in the film and I can't find it anywhere. A Completely timeless sound.
It's called Rocky Mountains, on the OST.
Look up Wendy Carlos. She did the entire score on a Moog Synthesizer, but it sounds like a full orchestra.
@@electricfishfan7159 ,
Homer, did you remember to lock the front door?
Doh!
Homer when you locked the front door, did you remember to lock the back door?
D'oh, d'oh!
Mr Rieper Oh no, we left Grampa back at the gas station! *keeps driving*
But what about Grampa?
Really good eerie music that plays in the background. Nothing obviously bad is happening here but you already feel uncomfortable and anxious by this whole scene.
Jennifer Tilly said it perfectly in Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments
"You're scared for them before anything really starts to happen."
The hills with clouds and that soundtrack after Jack said he saw it on the television, oh so spooky hills and creepy soundtrack.
That part is creepy as hell
I understand Stephen King when he says that this movie has little to do with his vision on the novel, but just look at Nicholson... He made this one of the greatest horror movies ever.
His acting is too good, that face he has throughout this video is the exact face I make when I’m fed up with someone being near me
i make that face all the time lol
@@person92906same
In the movie, Shelley Duvall (Wendy) is a smoker. She smokes in several scenes. Naturally, because of the thin air due to high altitude, Shelley is going to feel the change more profoundly because she smokes. Danny doesn't smoke and Jack only smokes occasionally in the movie, so they don't notice it as much.
I read a book about the donner party. It was more horrifying than I could have possibly imagined. One of the survivors said that a man was so hungry he tried to kill a bear with his own hands. When it mauled him to death the rest of the group had to watch it eat his carcass. Then they ate what was left.
“The Shining is a great book.”
“Oh yeah. I know all about The Shining. I saw the movie on television.”
**Gives sarcastic glaring grin**
“Yeah, it’s okay. He saw it on his television.”
LMAO!
😂😂😂
The movie's better tho
The novel is terrible. Hundreds of page of exposition...ugh!
@@hinterwelter
Curious, that much of a slog?
Wendy brings up the Donner Party out of nowhere.
Danny, being an inquisitive child, wants to know who they were.
Jack, being a good dad and following Wendy's lead, answers his son's question.
Wemdy chides Jack for finishing what she started.
Jack corrects her...
LOLOLOLOL
they do need to be corrected in the harshest possible way
Jack really only lights up when he's talking about cannibalism
That’s not true as weird as it is I can see this as him just trying to focus on a long drive my dad is a good guy and has his problems but reminded me of jack in the car ride kind of short with people ynow?
This is why Jack is such a respected actor I love his work
The Shining music is really something else.
Interesting how Danny tells Wendy he's hungry and she starts talking about the Donner Party.
Yeah that's pretty weird.
I find it funny from just the way Jack says that Danny learnt about canabilisme from the Televison.
Almost like as if Jack is thinking, "Look Wendy, Danny is going to learn about the dark sides of life one way or another ether way".
The face expresions that Jack gives in this scene are funny and at the same time scary, and he has not even gone carzy yet.
Yeah she's like "really jack? Cannabilism?" "Teaching our Danny about cannibalism?" And Danny says "it's OK mom I learned all about cannibals on TV" and Jack has the face and smile that screams GOTCHYA BITCH!! HEHEHEHE
1:38 holy shit the music
That droning music as we fade into the clouds is mesmerizing. I find myself humming that tune regularly. The noise goes deeper and deeper while the camera gives the impression that something is following them all the way up that mountain.
I just made a comment about the music. It's awesome.
The background music in 1:48 through the end always gives me goosebumps..
You can full the whole piece, called
“Rocky Mountains” on CZcams
It’s also my favorite part
@@polaroidproductions3198 Dude I cant find it... can you tell us where it can be found? mux appreciated if u know!!
@JC
I’ll be honest with you, I’m really disappointed considering it has been deleted, and there doesn’t seem to be another recording, so it’s gone, sorry.
@@polaroidproductions3198 Damm it man am looking all over the web there is none... wow such a shame, the piece is so enigmatic. I never heard the whole composition.
Aside form all the subtextual brilliance in this scene story wise.. on a technical level this is one of the most brilliantly executed “poor man’s” car scenes. The mountains in the background are being projected on a screen during this scene as the car is being filmed in a studio. The crew shakes the car and controls the lighting on the actors’ faces to simulate passing trees etc. brilliant.
even after so many years, it is still gold
Jack is hilarious
Yeah and people say that he's a bad person
Jack Nicholson perfectly portrays a sociopath, even when trying to be "nice."
I Like ya Jack!!.....I've always liked ya!!!! You've always been the best of 'em!!! .......Best Goddamned Actor from Timbuktu to Portland, Maine.....or Portland, Oregon for that matter!!!
Still my favourite movie, just this short 2 minutes from the beginning already lifts my neck hair. makes me miss the whole thing.
Just watched a documentary on the donner party,makes this scene even more haunting.The music here is incredible.
Did you see it on the Television?
Samuel Denman No,CZcams.
MrLebowski1980 I just did the same. There's obviously a lot of inspiration for Kubrick's direction of this movie.
@@MrLebowski1980 But it aired on tv first
@@johnb.8687 Yes, pbs I'm sure.
He looks like he's already done with his family and they haven't even got to the place yet😂
I imagine Jack's thinking:
"C'mon Jack, hold it out... just a few more lines about cannibalism and you're at the Overlook, restrain yourself from ripping their vocal cords out... the new car is almost yours!"
The specific track to this scene is not only my favorite piece of this movie's soundtrack but probably my favorite piece of horror movie music full stop. It perfectly creates a sense of impending doom that you feel like you can reach out and grab and put in your pocket, which then becomes a portal to hell. The movement of the music seems dialed in to Jack's dialogue and face acting, and the foreshadowing discussion of the Donner party, and being snowbound, and seeing things on television allegedly being a reason not to worry, it's like this piece of soundtrack encapsulates the whole movie.
Jack seems like a very patient father.
1:31
"See...it's ok, he saw it on the television." 😏 - Jack
Love the Nicholson mannerisms of this response! 😆🤣🤣🤣
pause at 1:32 and look at Jack's face. lol
Lol its like an emoji
Pattycakeslikespie1 LOLOLOLOL😆🤣
@@patstutelberg85 this -> 🤨 but with a smiley face
Danilo Pochini my dad and his friend remember dying of laughter when that happened when they saw this movie in the cinema when it came out when they were 11 and they snuck in to see it
1:33, even better. :D
Jack is calm just like before the Thunderstorm.
Gives me the chills.
One of the best scenes in the film.
Shows how good they all are together.
The soundtrack here is just one of those pieces of music that Is perfect for this and couldn't suit another movie scene better
"See, It's ok, he saw it on the television."
I just love the ominous creepiness of that trumpet at the start flying through the woods.. approaching the apex of the unknown.
it's ok, he saw it on the television
Before Jack drinks the whiskey from Lloyd, he says "Here's to five miserable months on the wagon...and all the irreparable harm it's caused me." The donner party was stranded for five months as well.
You can tell Jack was already a ticking time bomb.
The way Jack Nicholson say "in covered wagon times" like the old west!
I just noticed Jack’s temperament here different than earlier, pretty much when Wendy says she notices a change in the air. So much subtext crammed into one scene, one of the reasons Kubrick was a master. Amazing how there can still be new and interesting things to discover even after watching a thousand times.
thats the actor's work tho
@@person92906 the actor doesn’t write the dialogue, though. Or direct the action. Or have any say whether they do 100 takes of a scene until they get it right. Watch Kubrick’s Boxes to get an idea of how meticulous this man was.
The Overlook Hotel didn't make Jack crazy, it just manipulated him to give into his darkest impulses. You can really see in this scene that Jack already hates his family. All he needed was another drink..
I ahve this book, without seeing the movie, and wow. Just what an amazing performance Nicholson gave, as well as all of them. As others mentioned here, he really does give off the dry alcoholic vibe in regards to his family.
The edge of insanity is inscribed all over his whimsical face. It takes masterful direction regarding sequence of events to be able to pull off this character for two hours. What a film.
Everything is great in this scene except Jack’s hands. He’s comically turning the wheel back and forth like you would in an improv sketch
Danny: Dad? I'm hungry.
Jack: Well, you should have eaten your breakfast.
The most relatable dad moment in this scene.
Finally after all these years you can now download the main theme and the background track to this scene by Wendy Carlos on iTunes. These were previously only available on the original vinyl soundtrack which was very hard to find and expensive.
The music in this scene is fantastic.
Evocative music from the great Wendy Carlos.
He's crazy even before the hotel thing. See how amazed he is because his son knows all about cannibalism.
*Brings up the Donner party in earshot of a child.
*Is surprised when child asks what it is and husband explains.
I think we are supposed to be asking ourselves, why is Jack so cranky? Why is Wendy so oblivious? Seems a bit off. Danny is a pretty normal little kid in this scene, though. Unlike others, where adults try to talk to him and he just stares or gives one word answers.
I'll find them, one day. If I ever find a way out of this damn hotel.
Whiskey?
This is so underrated, my favourite scene of the movie, can you believe? Damn, the older I get, the more I imagine with every line, this movie is terrifying close to reality. TV as a program, altitude as a channel. As a kid I thought they were talking about the Andes plane disaster, another obscure thing my Dad told me about that time.
it's my favorite scene of the movie too. The dialogue is so cold, the Wendy Carlos music in the background and the aerial scenes. Amazing.
I love this music !!!
One of the greatest scenes I've ever witnessed. It's so simple
The aggression radiating off of Jack in this scene.
Kubrick is my all time favorite film maker.. love his movies..
I brought my then-10 year old cousin to see this movie when it was released back in 1980, got into big time trouble for it.
1:31 the face I make when I hear we are having a test
Perfect! 😂, exactly what happens when I didn’t read a book but take the test based off the movie 😂
Many say that Jack was always evil. I don't think that's necessarily the case, ariund the middle if the film when he dreans about killing Danny and his wife, he wakes up crying and clearly traumiatised. But he was a flawed enough person for the hotel that sink its claws in and send him spiralling into madness.
I love how Jack first cracks a smile when Danny first asks him about the Donner party.
That opening shot of the mountains and trees is simply gorgeous.
Loved the score/music
That's really the only good thing about the scene. The acting is fucking horrendous!
Gregory Baker I think it’s intentionally comical/animated lol
@@tawsifchowdhury4035 Well that makes it even worse! Completely overrated film, no doubt.