Has Putin’s Surprisingly Liberal Immigration Policy Backfired?
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Despite disapproval from the Russian public, Putin has maintained a liberal immigration policy in order to alleviate post-Soviet economic and demographic issues. However, after the recent Moscow attacks, he could come under pressure to change things...
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00:00 Introduction
00:50 Russia’s Immigration Policy Explained
05:03 The Reasons Why
06:38 How the Moscow Attack Changes Things
07:59 Brilliant
Migration into Russia are very significant to central asian countries, like for example almost 10% of Tajikistan economy are based on remittances from Tajik workers
Almost no Kazakhs in Russia.Many ethnic Russians live in in Northern part of Kazakhstan
@@hasinabegum1038yes. Because Kazakhstan is the only country in central asia who has resources like oil and gas
Its not just 10%, it was 50% in 2011~ and now its something like 40%
@@realcomicsans Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan have more oil and natural gas than Kazhakstan. Search for "List of countries by natural gas production" on Wikipedia if you want to take a look at the full list . 13 Turkmenistan, 18 Uzbekistan Kazhakstan is 31 on this list.
Are talking about ethnic Kazakhs or Kazakh citizens? I'm asking because there are many ethnic Kazakhs in the Russian Federation.@@hasinabegum1038
you forgot the option 4 , blame ukraine and ignore the problem
Its the mossad
why does the mossad only attack enemies of the us and Israel and the only time they attacked Israel they apologize
@@addounsamiyoucef1999😂 man wtf
@@awellculturedmanofanime1246maybe? To force russia to take a more anti palestine stance 😂
Already a very critical video, could have said it and no one would have complained.
Bro showed me the same 2 graphs over and over again
yeah lazy editing on this one
LOL actually true
Do you know how much it cost 'em? Well, I don't know! But it must've been a lot, because they really wanted to milk it!
I noticed that too 🤭
Especially since the scale on those graphs is so bad they are borderline useless.
As a Russian I've been waiting for this particular video so long I can't remember. Maybe Putin fans in the West see him as a sort of conservative icon protecting Russia from the bane of wokeism, preserving the Christian values and Christian population makeup, which is as far from truth as it can get. Putin is the opportunist, the embodiment of "Real Politik" with no ideology other than his personal well-being. One moment he is cosying up with Russian nationalists talking about how ethnic Russians are the leading group in the country, the other moment he is coaxing the big business with easy access to foreign labor (most of whom are viewed as "invaders" by aforementioned nationalists). Putin is a post-ideology man who juggles different often contradictory ideas presenting only what he thinks is beneficial to him at the moment.
I guess I'll be sending this to a number of my overseas friends. Thanks for your work.
Don't expect Putin's fans is the West to notice. Hell, they don't even care that Russia isn't and never has been a Western country.
It's more about practicality
Russia fertility rate is below replacement rate of 2.1
It's 1.5 and still declining so he asks Russian women to give more births but the economy can't sustain aging population without immigrant labor
In fact immigrants are the reason Russia still functions despite corruption and degeneracy and low birth rates
Another is that he uses the lowest classes of the society including illegal immigrants in his war in Ukraine so the average ethnic Russian is mostly away from the frontline
@@baha3alshamari152 I would say that it's more about using poor, destitute people in general rather than specifically targeting minorities. The thing is that a lot of minority-inhabited regions of Russia are quite poor (Dagestan, Buryatia etc), but people from poor ethnic Russian regions (Ivanovo, Kurgan etc) are being actively drafted too. But of course the question why so many minority regions are poor remains.
Nope. They see him as a fellow Capitalist. The US was so desperate to destroying communism and the USSR that they created a scenario where a corrupt, mafia style capitalists like Putin could take absolute power.
They saw him as the better option. Like:
"everything President is better as long as he is no communist"
While in reality the west directly enabled a corrupt fascist dictatorship that is even worse then anything the USSR ever was.
Because they hoped that they could exploit Russian resources the same way they were able under Yeltsin who was basically the definition of the word total corruption if you look in a dictionary...🤷🏻♂️
Because of this policy, nowadays Russia has one of the largest migrant population in the world, just only behind US and Germany.
Putin use those migrants as slaves unlike in america. They are forced to build buildings, infrastructure, and farm crops with very poor pay and low living wage. 2018 world cup in Sochi used those migrants as slaves, for example. Unlike in the west.
And Saudi Arabia
And apparently they can't help it but share their problem by organizing migrants into Europe, in order to sow chaos. So much of the story of right-wing nationalist Russia just opposing liberal west and being indignant for conflict of political values concerning migration or multi-culturalism. Current Russia is a multi-cultural dystopia, actively seeking to ruin others as well.
Uninformed jabbering.
The two western nations you name are - measured in migrants per capita - solidly in the lower middle field of nations taking in refugees. They just have a very loud-screaming minority of migration misinformers.
Jordan or turkey surpass both nations by far.
Are you just one of those supposed "patriots"? Multiplying untruths just to shoot-talk your home?
Misinformation. Flat out.
Per capita, both the US as well as germany dont take in considerably big migrant streams. Solid middle field internationally.
The real champions in taking care of displaced folks are places like turkey or jordan.
For central Asian people, Russia is Like USA. They know the language and have lots of relatives and friends. Which makes finding jobs very easy. Living expanse in Russia is relatively low so they can send a good amount of money back home.
Most Tajiks don’t even speak Russian
@@yuriy5376 ???? are you from tajikistan? thought so
As a Russian that is exactly my understanding. Central Asia is to Russia what mexico and Latin america are to the US in terms of migrant flows (cheap workers who are useful to the economy).
Don't show this video to those Western right-wingers who think russia is based
Based in few factors
@@hasinabegum1038 Ok ''Kasin''. Why brown people love russia love so much lmfao
Right wingers dont think "Russia is based", its just what you see on your news. One big issue of this is the United States, where they have Biden and his organization messing up the illegal immigration situation and giving Afghanistan to the Taliban. But no you cant vote for anyone besides Biden because we tell you from the news that they are racist and love Putin.
the fun thing is that russia will become islamic way faster than any european country. by 2050 russia will have 30-40% muslim non-russian population now they are at 18% because they literally have no Christian migrants and have 4 times lower birth rates than the Muslim migrants
@@hasinabegum1038 in what factors is Russia based from a right-wing point of view in your opinion?
Fun fact: Due to Russia now allowing dual citizenship, Russia is home to the largest population of Israeli citizens outside Israel with most being dual citizens who spend part of the time in Israel and part of their time in Russia.
Makes sense because a lot of Israeli citizens are immigrants from Russia post 1991
@@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887It actually started in 1948 when ussr wanted to spread communism in middle east using their jews in Israel. But this idea failed when Israel ended up capitalist, and ussr started hating Israel.
Jews everywhere have dual loyalties
@@cpnete6048 No. The single reason communism couldn't win middle east is Ussr atheism policy. No Muslim could get along with Ussr.
Thats why Usa financed radical islamists there, and it backfired them later.
@@user-qx4zc3ph2m The USSR got along fine with Israel until Israel buddied up with their enemy 2 decades later.
I speak russian and read the russian news and opposition politics, and TDLR said basically the same as the people from russia say. That means TDLR is very well informed about the topic and is highly qualified.
Thank you for your work!
THERE IS NO RUSSIAN OPPOSITION, only FSB agents on duty
lmao thats cause watching russian oppositions is the same as watching cnn. Absolutely the same narrative
@CenturionKZ yeah, and in russia FSB agents and Putin are 100% sure that there is no Ukraine or ISIS terrorist but only CIA agents.
@olegshtolc7245 I cannot say anything about that, because i don't read CNN. But there are more than one Russian opposition speaker, some are more leftist, other more rightwing (like Navalny was), but they altogether are so called "liberals", because they stand for democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of demonstrations, are against corruption and the war, and for know it's enough.
Maybe, in the beautiful Russia of the future they will be much more different than now and sit in different parties in the parlament, but for now they all are against Putin, and not just copiyng their opinion in favor for some American newspapers (not all is directed by the US, as not all in Russia is directed by FSB).
@@olegshtolc7245not at all. You 0 understanding of Russian politics. You probably one of these brainroted conspiracy theorists who belive us is behind the attacks. Most Russian blame fsb because they have track record of doing terrorist attacks
Putin created a post-modern ruling style. His government has several completely contradictory narratives which get distributed to different political groups.
I'm a moderate nationalist and I've been telling Western Putin fans about this for more than a decade as there are many who believe that Putin is either based or a champion of countries they see as oppressed by the Western world. It is so silly for either patriotic or leftist foreigners to see Putin as a good leader (well, for Russian standards, he was really decent in the 00s but it's a low standard). While I hope Ukraine can keep as much territory as possible, the extremely one sided media reports and demonisation of criticism of the past American/UK treatment of Russia, this very hyper polarisation and downright propaganda has driven many people to be sympathetic to Putin. They correctly identify the propaganda of Western governments as propaganda but then make the mistake to assume that the side that is lied about must be the good side and they fall for another country's propaganda...
"post modern ruling style"
Its called populism, and has existed since before ancient Rome.
On the face of it, it seems like a good thing, doing what the people want and as such ruling and acting with popular mandate.
The problem is that populist regimes tend to...
-condition their populaces to think, feel and live a very specific way, allowing them to "other" everyone who thinks differently.
-condition them into combining anti-elitism with anti-intellectualism, resulting in the destruction of academia independant from government or religion.
-create scapegoats out of minorities
-create aggressive policies and bills where the upside is highlighted and the downsides are ignored if not straight up hidden from the public, helped by the anti-intellectualism and scapegoating.
-conditioning the populace into looking at "dear leader" as divinely mandated and the best leader, creating a cult of personality.
Erdogan, Putin, Mao zedong, the ayatollah, Hamas, Kim Kong in, lukashenko, Orban, Netanyahu, all of these figures are populists, and all their governments proclaim themselves the voices of their people. Because they've conditioned their populaces to think that way.
It`s interesting how the far left and the far right both support Russia because they think that Putin is either a communist hero fighting against American imperialism or a staunch traditionalist who is just protecting family values. Both are fed into by the very efficient Russian propaganda machine. (There are so many Russian bots in the comments of popular news channels and other similar content)
Putin would actually be remembered as a good leader and president by most people if he just actually retired in 2008 (even considering Chechnya and Georgia). Democratic institutions that were established in the 90s already heavily eroded by that point, but the economy was doing pretty good and Russia was becoming a functioning member of the global economy and political formations like the G8.
The West has plenty of problems to deal with (namely the housing crisis and a complete failure to properly deal with immigration), but people who then jump to saying that Putin would be a great American president or that people in Russia have it better are just delusional.
Eh, even back then Putin wasn't popular in the west regardless of media propaganda. Only those idolise him who don't bother to check what he is actually doing.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Your explanation reminded me that politics is an actual subject that requires knowledge and study and yet to everyone it is always "clear" and "simple".
Putin is not a populist, he is an autocrat. He doesn't tell people what they want to hear. He tells them what they must believe.
1.
Actually Russia likely has a Bigger Migrant Population than Germany.
Because Russia will often consider Immigrants to be Russian if they come from former Soviet Union Countries.
Thus them not being Counted as Immigrants in the Statistics.
For each non Russian Immigrant from these Areas. There is nearly 2 Immigrants which are considered to be Russian and are thus not counted as Immigrants.
2.
This above is also done because it Provides a very Good Justification to Influence and Potentially Annex these former Soviet Republics.
If a Large Percentage of Your Population has Russian Citizenship. It provides one of the most used Russian Justifications for Invasion.
Which is Your Country is Russians and should be Returned Home or that your Country is Suppressing Russian Minorities and thus Russia needs to move in to Protect it etc.
3.
And Finally. Russia is fairly Racist and does Discriminate against "lesser" Russians. Meaning that while these People are considered Russian. They will be considered Second Class Russians.
Which means they get less benefits and will often be Conscripted or be Forced into other Cheap Labor Jobs or the Military.
Even right now. Russian Soldiers Send to Ukraine are to an Disturbing Degree these Lesser Russians.
bro?? russia will not annex kazakhstan, not in russian interests currently and most central asian country are friend, also most you say is lie
@@adamelghalmi9771
Sure Sure.
And now lets look at all those Russian "Friends" which then suddenly stopped being "Friends" and got Invaded by Russia.
With Russia taking Bites out of their Territory..
Georgia, Ossetia, Moldova, Abkhazia, Chechnya, Tajikistan....
Then lets take a Look at Kazahkstan and Belarus both of which had Russian Troops Occupy their Country and Suppressing their Population when they tried to get a Government that wasnt a Russian Puppet.
People ask why Finland would Join Nato and abandon Neutrality.
But anyone with a Brain just needs to take a Look at the Map and Ask himself how many Neighbors Russia has left it has not in some way Attacked in recent History.
Because if You look at this List. You notice something very Quickly.
Despite Russia having alot of Neighbors the List of Neighbors that have not been Invaded by Russia at least once is very Short.
And all of the Countries on that List are either Countries with Nuclear Weapons or Countries in Nato.
All of them. Except for Finland that was until recently.
Take a Guess why Finland might not be have been Comfortable outside Nato anymore lol.
Now. Getting back to the "Friends" thing.
Do You know something that all of the Countries on the other Side of this List.
(The Side which was Invaded by Russia) Has in Common ?
All of them were "Friends" of Russia lol
@@adamelghalmi9771 Well, Ukraine and Russia also were considered friends so you never know
N2 shows what kind of lunatic brainwash you are
@@pawelzybulskij3367 that is lie, russia and ukraine were friend in USSR, after little ukraine go to westoid and start be friends, so russia rightfully defend itself and invade
Central asia is not The Same.Kazakhstan and tajikistan are vastly different countries in almost all possible ways
Racists in Moscow don't care.
Except in religion, second language which is widely spoken, lack of democracy, common past. Yeah, vastly different
@@kovryzhenko lol, comparing kazakhstan to tajikistan is like comparing mongolia to italy
Kazakhs are a flavour of Turks and Tajiks are a flavour of Iranians.
In much the same way that French and Spaniards are both flavours of Roman
@@kovryzhenkoReligion is not The Same.Kazakh society is very secular,Westernized and russified and past is past.Kazakhstan par capita income is same as Russia and tajikistan is less then 10%
But can you really have 'politically dangerous' policies when disagreeing with Putin equals dying?
Yes. Disagreeing with Putin only equals dying if there are enough people supporting Putin to maintain the power structure. Once too many people turn against him, he will be gone. He's not the first dictator in human history who tried to make things this way but many were toppled because the discontent grew too big within certain circles. Arguably, the opinion of common Russians doesn't matter that much as long as the army, securitiy services etc. are with Putin but you never know when the whole equilibrium reaches its breaking point.
Children should never be murdered and what happened in the Crocus concert hall is just horrible. Nobody should support Putin, but neither should anyone have to die like that
There is an ultranationalist, hard-wing opposition against Putin. It may suffer the occasional stair fall (see Prigozhin) but that doesn't mean Putin doesn't fear them or doesn't take their opinion into account to some extent.
@@tamikovacs3887 And political opponents should never be imprisoned.
@@armintargaryen9216 That right wing is of no help to the west. He's actually nicer for the west than they are. So it isn't just him who has to take them into consideration.
Putin is liberal on immigration? Tuckercarlsonist go 🤯
No matter how much migrants come, that wont change the voter demographics in Russia (Putin will win) unlike in the US.
@@Baran-lq7mc Russia has not a different voter demographics, but a different counter demographics. 😉
@@gargoyle7863 well, gonna just disregard anonymous public opinion polling data done by western indepedent parties every year...
Thats not how that works there it will cause the same issues in time. @@Baran-lq7mc
Russian doesn’t allow them to be citizens though
And far right in Europe and the US say we need to learn from ruzzia on immigration 😂
GOP is funded by Russia 🇷🇺🤔
Ruzzia...😂
has any significant far right figure actually said that or u just makin sht up
I hear like Poland and Hungary alot, i never hear about doing it like Russia
@@xd-hc8ccliterally. It's all these the 17 year old, informed by a soon-to-be-banned titktok kids repeating the same statement over and over again in the comment section. Gets tiring tbh.
The demographic problem of Russia is even worse especially because the 1.5 birth rate is mostly caused by the higher birth rates among the Muslim communities, which push the national birth rate higher. In reality, the Russian population has a much lower birth rate than the national average.
Tatars and bashkirs have simmiler birth rate as ethnic Russians.Dagestanis and chechens maybe slightly higher
@@hasinabegum1038In 2019 Chechnya had a birth rate of 2.58, Moscow oblast has around 1.3.
@@IhaveBigFeetNot Every russian lives in Moscow
And you think that isnt also happening in the west?
…so Russian Muslims aren’t Russian?
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@@sg23148Do you not like a channel talking about Russian immigration problems???
Don't forget that Russia also recruits a lot of immigrants to fight in Ukraine, often with the promise of citizenship
Putin will accept fresh meat/canon-fodder, from anywhere … How gracious of him …
Russia has liberal immigration policies since Yeltsin time
@@baha3alshamari152 They don't know Anything, Best Not To Tell Em.
Literally.
Giving 200k Tajiks citizenship only to then send them to the front lines
indeed
It's not surprising at all, after all immigrants boost economy, what IS surprising is how some hyper anti immigration ppl still support ru.
ru is one of the farthest nation from tradcath or similar politics and yet those ppl simp for ru as if it's bastion of traditional values when it's exact opposite of em.
Same people that adore putin hate biden, and i wonder, what would they think if biden acted like putin and his political opponents, like trump, started having "accidents"?
Russia also has low church going rate but somehow western right wingers see them as a bastion of christianity
@@suportbghelp4938 until they start complaining about those too
They might create a larger economy but thats about it. India and china have the same population but very different economies.
Boost the economy for who? For employers and business interests who get cheaper workers and a bigger consumer base. Not so good for those trapped in structural unemployment or on the low wages produced by the oversupply of labour
Someone send this to all the conservatives in the US who support Putler.
Why? It would just make them support him more.
What a multipolar world we live in!
At a national level, the Russian civil economy needs these people, who often work in low-paid jobs. Russia's "liberal" migration policy towards them (in comparison with the walls that the European Union and China are erecting) and the fact that Russian is still the vernacular language mean that, despite the very strong racism against them, these people have no choice but to go and work in Russia.
From a geopolitical point of view, this constant flow allows Russia to keep control of Central Asia, even if China is literally on its doorstep, because it brings a huge amount of money into these countries while helping corrupt regimes not to be too burdened with a large unemployed population, which makes it more pleasant to maintain the Russian language and active links with the government in Moscow.
There are pros and cons with everything. Helps economy but increases crime rates and it is a lot easier for islamic terrorists to operate in Russia.
Didn’t expect Putin to strike so high on diversity & inclusion and have so much in common with average western HR department.
Sounds like he could be a perfect leader to some European left party.
He’s a politician firstly. He tries to appeal to various different groups both in Russia and abroad to get their support. Nostalgic communists, right-wing ultranationalists, conservative Christians, Muslims, etc.
Putin's success in Russia has been partially down to his ability to balance between and act as an arbiter between different political, social and economic forces in Russia - as the commentator above already noted. And he certainly pays attention to the business circles and industrialists as well and no doubt their demands to maintain a surplus of labour needed for continued growth.
@@Pythoner I know I know, of course, it's just funny because dictators are never associated with liberal policies and it actually have an immigration policy that could be partially stolen from a left party.
But I understand why he had such policy and what his big picture was: holding power for long, making the right people happy and expanding his influence over former soviet countries.
4:18 "Relatively." 🤣 He had a commercial comparing them to cxckrxxches and portrayed himself as a guy running a fumigation service.
0:23 the labels appear and disappear way too fast to pause and read
Everybody wants to get out as fast as possible 🤣
Since ive shortly been in this bloody country couple of times in st Peterborough in 2018-2019. People who were cleaning stress, hostels, serving in fast food were only central Asian immigrants, never ruzzians. Really working hard and cleaning mess afternoon "upper class" ruzzians society. Only people from Kazakhstan they consider as almost same level of human being, almost "equal to russians" I always was happy to see that in Ukrainian we do have such racism. Middle Asian immigrants usually running their own businesses with high quality customer service attitude. And we clean own shit own hands, not waiting for immigrants to clean after us.
Ukrainians are Nazis stop spreading lies
You have worse racism in the Ukraine. Ask anyone in the Donbass. And yes immigrants working low-paid jobs is the norm for any capitalist society.
A few backfires can't justify thousand lives saved
Really got full use out of those two little graphs huh
Have always thought the war in Ukraine would be won or lost in the Caucasus and/or central Asia.
The Caucasus and Central Asia is a side show whose only significance is that winning it over will allow Europe a source of oil and metals as an alternative to that of Russia. Kazakhstan can potentially be a significant thorn in Russia's side, if a pro-Western anti-Russian nationalist coup is successful there but that was already tried back in January 2022 and failed.
But none of this would prevent geopolitical catastrophe for the West and the de-facto birth of a multipolar (or at least bipolar) world order in the event of a Russian victory in the Ukraine. Nor would the Central Asian resources and market offset for Europe what they have lost by losing access to cheap Russian energy and metals and the wider Russian market.
@@Pythoner so Russia would happily just let these areas go? Not commit any resources or man power to them? Will just shrug and go meh if they (multiple) tried to secede? Or if China continue their soft incursions? Or Islamist groups get a foothold?
And where are these resources and manpower going to come from if they do commit? Russia’s stocks of both are depleting as it is. Now stretch them even further.
Your side show suddenly doesn’t seem so peripheral.
@@gavinjones3933 Well they just let Armenia go. It was of no importance or strategic significance, while Azerbaijan is important.
But seceding is not the issue here, nor is committing troops or resources. These countries are all independent already since 1991 and Moscow is not eyeing on changing that. It simply wants to keep friendly leaders in power there and keep Islamists and Western influence out and in Kazakhstan it did so successfully back a couple years ago without too much trouble.
And your gobbledygook about Russia's resources and manpower dwindling is just Western propaganda ass you absorbed from talking heads - Russia's manpower has barely been dented while its economy has only shown growth since the SMO began.
I cannot believe someone has finally said this!!
I have wonder if one of the reasons for the war was demographic change.
It was to distract the population from demographic change, among other things.
In the west our politicians secretly love Putin, he's a multiculturalist and enriching the military industrial complex,
He's getting white people killed on mass and importing third worlders and shipping them to Europe
you are 100% correct. if russia does not reunite with belarus ans ukraine who are ethnically very pure slavic then russians in russia will disappear by the end of the century. by 2050 30-40% of russians will be Muslims 95% of whom are not russians. now they are at 20% with birth rates 4 times higher than russians and way younger population.
@@realhorrorshow8547 I figure it was to balance it out instead of a growing Muslim population. Adding slavic orthodox Christians would keep the percentage the same as 20 years ago.
That's one of the theories, that it was partly to reduce diversity / to increase the proportion of Russians to non-Russians.
Owh
The irony
Well, at least they are neighbours, here in UK are immigrants are from our former colonies, but these are countries on the other side of the world with very different culture!
Most of Russia’s neighbours are Muslims with radically different culture. A lot of them don’t even speak Russian.
@@yuriy5376 yeah, it is complicated though, because before they were part of USSR and kinda seen as an extension, but many Russians moved to Kazakhstan but have left as of now. I think as always it is economic reasons for migration, similar to Latinos in the US. 🇺🇸
@@yuriy5376 Radically different culture is a relative term. I guarantee you that immigrants from Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Algeria, and so on would have a more different culture compared to Russians, and would speak Russian even worse - than someone from Kyrgyzstan or Azerbaijan or Armenia.
What you didn’t mention is that in the 90s the migrants from Central Asia were mostly Russians. And not because the immigration wasn’t significant. It was. That’s the main difference to the 2010s in which central migrants were from lots of other ethnic groups.
They are incurring a liability. Their next generation would be liable for draft.
thats always the case
"stealing jobs"
This is such a loaded statement. One of the purposes of mass immigration anywhere is to maintain structural unemployment - because it's hard to negotiate better wages if there is always someone else prepared to do the job for less. And given that Russia has a threadbare social safety net that puts the poorest Russians in an impossible position
Russia's social safety net is quite generous. Yes the unemployment payouts are complete misery, but healthcare and education is entirely free, and there are plenty of abandoned houses you can buy in depopulating Siberian villages for 1 rouble or so. All that will be left for you is just to buy food.
kind of sad what Russia has become when you reflect on the country's potential to be a strong, wealthy nation with a long history of multiple ethnics and religions living together peacefully
Never in the history of Russia have different ethnic groups lived together peacefully wtf? Russia's entire way of governing foreign people is to dominate an pit them against each other in order to ensure control. Why do you think an Armenian majority region was given to Azerbaijan under the USSR? You think nobody knew that placing an Armenian Orthodox majority region inside an Azeri Muslim majority country would create instability in case they ever tried to break away?
Living together peacefully 😂😂😂, Russians are quite xenophobic, towards non ruskies.
One of the few videos from the TLDR platform with which I agree 100%...
A good example of uttering a lot of words, but no logic idea. Yeah. The young generation, taking charge
Diversity is strength 😂
Must be all those poorly qualified people stealing jobs from less than qualified Russians... Blame game is stupid.
Diversity is just made up by major companies to import cheap labor to increase their profits.
It is. All native ethnicities in Russia live just fine and even some of the migrants fit in easily. The problem is when "Diversity is strength" slogan is used to justify bringing in millions of uneducated unqualified abu bandits who don't even speak your language and are only in to abuse your social support programs.
Its like a roach motel; You check in but you don't check out.
Hotel California: You can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave!
Russia is losing its hold over Central Asian Stans. It helps scaring them with Tajiks claiming to be ISIS attacking Moscovites.
This has hallmarks of KGB in its new avatar.
He’s essentially a Tzar in all but name
as a belarussian who has family in russia, the migration issues are insane. by 2050 30-40% of russias population will be muslim non-russians. now we are at 18%. the migrants have 4 times higher birth ratea and younger population. this does not include many russians leaving the country. if this continues russia will become an islamic country closer to the end of this century. crazy to think about.
would you say that Belarus doesn’t have this issue? (as long as it stays an independent nation)
@@d___o-dl6do no, we are almost 100% slavic. if russia invades us and annexes us we will become a zoo like russia. With migrants flowing in and starting crime and violence rampages like in russia
@@d___o-dl6dono one wants to go to belarus
@@d___o-dl6do noo we are almost 100% slavic. if russia invades us we will become a zoo like them.
same with every western country, the future doesn't look good...
its almost like letting in unvetted migrants is not a good idea.
In case of Russia migrants are much more civilized and nice people comparing to rude and wild Russians
I would really like anti immigration people in the west to stop lauding Russia as a vestige of traditionalist when Putin's migration policies resemble something like Sweden.
Tfw Putin’s rivals blame migration, but not Islamic extremism
Those terrorists were going to Ukraine after the attacks
Become a significant part of migrants from Central Asia (especially from Tajikistan) have strong extremist views.
@@user-cb8yp3js5zAlmost no extremist views from other central asian countries
The UK, Germany, Sweden, France, Denmark, Iceland, and on a broader level China, India, Nigeria and even Israel and Myanmar all seem to point to the fact that you can't really separate those two from one another. It's actually really interesting how you have one group that seems to have such strong correlations with societal instability all around the world.
@@VVayVVardMayanmer is under brutal civil war with many independence movements from many ethnic groups
He sends them all to the meat grinder in surprised there are any combat capable immigrants left.
Everyone's liberal immigration policy backfired.
In russia in public offices they look at you as they are superiors and you are inferior. In soviet union you needed to bribe to be treated better especially doctors liked to receive something in their pocket unlike in EU where they are there to help you. I remember my grandmother told me to bribe doctor in hospital because she used to that system. But i didn't do it and i was treated ok.
Ваши познания о России не соотаетствуют действительности уже лет 30. В России запись к врачу электронная и гораздо быстрее чем в Европе или Сша. И значительно дешевле 😊 а общения с чинрвниками уже нет, поскольку есть МФЦ. Погугли чтобы не выглядеть отсталым 😂
@@villigutvilligut4201 how do you know how is in EU yourself.
No that was the case in maybe the 80s not now. Nowadays public offices are staffed with 20-something divas and they're always very friendly.
People must be desperate if they want to go to Russia how depressing.
15+ million immigrants live in Russia, which is one of the highest in the world.
Russia's HDI is among the top 40 highest in the world, comparable to most of Europe. And that is incredibly high when compared to developing countries in Asia, Africa, and Latin America.
..no other choice?
Where do you even live 😂
Don't like Putin but he is jolly lad compared to the unspeakable guy running Turkmenistan, that will make Russia look wonderful
bro tadjikistan, kyrgystam, turkmenistan and uzbekistan are poorer than most african countries. ofc they will migrate to russia.
or more conscripts
Am I high or did you show the same two graphs 10 times each wtf
I hate seeing the same animation of the same grafs over and over again in this video :/
Italy’s demographic drop is even worse.
Yep, but Italy isnt in a war and hasnt had a way in some time. Also, thats why even extreme right parties like melosi dont limit immigration even after saying they would do so. Its economic suicide
China's is even worse nice try bot
An italian demographic crisis is a local tragedy. A russian demographic crisis is a bright light of hope for the future of the human race.
@@pabloagusti5104 you mean a bright light of hope for the future of the america's friends, and what if youre not?
@@pabloagusti5104 I guess you were rooting for the fascists in WWII.
Man your editor needs to not show the same graph a million times
Then america should have stricter immigration policy
Sheesh...
Well, I'm glad we can all agree now that migration is not all sunshine and rainbows.
Took us long enough.
the graphs are not the best
Most immigrants are ethnic Russians immigrated From former Soviet Republics after collapse of Soviet Union
In general I agree.
The problem of migration exists and it is getting worse.
At the same time, society was divided on this issue.
The majority does not want to see migration from undeveloped countries for any benefit. Migration lobbyists are former communists and corrupt officials who receive millions from the illegal import and exploitation of migrants.
The latest terrorist attack caused an incredibly strong anti-migrant response that no amount of lobbying efforts could overcome.
A number of new laws against migration and increased penalties for any assistance to illegal migration and corruption are expected soon.
From Russia.
Russia doesn't have a choice since it has fertility rate of 1.5 which is dangerous for the economy
If I was an immigrant in Russia I would start working on an exit plan, because if public pressure is high enough, Putin might start building gulags soon to deal with the "immigrant problem".
You're delusional. You've never heard of the Moscow protests against immigration? You've never heard of repression against ethnic nationalists in Russia? They were sent to prison and Putin dismissed them as "caveman nationalists" and said that Russia is great in its ethnic and religious diversity. Ethnic Russians have been strongly against non-white immigration for years, and Putin has never done anything, except divert attention with foreign wars.
he has no economy or military left for that, prisons are full, soldiers are out
Maybe gulags won't be necessary if the FSB can pressure the migrants to join the Ukraine war.
Учитывая что лагеря мигрантов уже есть в США и ЕС, они начали строить Гулаг раньше России 😊😊😊😊 оказывается в России мигранты приезжают работать, а не торговать наркотиками как у вас.
Please April 1st post a video about the outbreak of ww1
Isn't the third installment about to come soon? 😂
Like he cares about making hard unpopular decisions. He controls the media narrative and it's not like he can be voted out.
07:20 unemployment rate is low because of gray labour market. Unemployment benefits are laughable, nobody in their mind would apply and IIRC it's the actual source of the metric.
I disagree that there would be a shortage of labour. Instead, certain companies would go out of business because it would be impossible to replace cheap labour and maintain acceptable prices.
And some gray market would convert to white market.
I was migrant in Russia, I am from Kyrgyzstan, unemployment is really low in Russia almost every place is hiring. A lot of employees has program like if you bring your friends for work they'll give you bonus like 30% of your salary.
@@granitegolem99 two things need to be discussed:
1) were you employed legally?
2) employment of migrants is high for obvious reasons.
@@user-yc5fq9bv3u 1) Yes, I used to pay 6% income tax. Actually a lot of migrant work legally because it is easy to legalize here.
2) well, Russian government has liberal migration policy not because they are liberal, actually it's opposite. Russian citizens really hate us, and many parliament members openly nazi. But businessmens and Putin understand that it will hurt economy pretty hard. For example around 60% of logistics workers in Moscow are migrants, and half million construction workers from central asia keep Moscow infrastructure working. And migrant workers making around 11% of Russian GDP. Despite such high pressure Putin just keeping migrants in Russia.
@@granitegolem99I agree in general.
Because is easy to send migrants to Ukraine.
When has liberal immigration policy among non assimilating migrants ever worked?
When white people arrived to America several centuries ago😊
@@user-qx4zc3ph2m I'm sure that worked well for those who didn't speak English
@@alex_zetsu Tell me when you experience it soon
Depends how assimilation is defined.
That’s quite disturbing the way you describe self-ethnic cleansing as “returning home”.
People have done this all over the world for millenia. It's not much of a big deal unless it's due to a government initiative.
*alternative
The Russian economy growth, was because that the oil and gas prices were higher not because of Putin like many people believe.
No it was because of the growth of Russian industries, revival of agriculture, service sector, construction, infrastructure development, banking and so on. Oil and gas prices did rise but they always go up and down, particularly throughout the 2010s, and their share in the Russian economy has basically only been decreasing for the last 20 years.
Can you do a video about nevalny? These few facts you said about him got me stunned
Don’t be silly his the good boy of the west, notice how he failed to mention the racist slurs or how he spoke about exterminating them from Russia like bugs 😬😬
Uhh no, that would go against the narrative like giving standing ovation to WW2 nazis in the Canadian Parlament...
You didn't read up on Navalny, that is what your saying. He may be anti-Putin but he is not the same as a "Western liberal"...
Also gives him claim over the country's
It's only a population crisis if you look at it as a myopic economist. Broader picture... it's more of a rebalancing.
That the Russian state has less people than freaking Bangladesh despite its size? The US has 200 million more people compared to Russia...
Having migrants also allows Russia to push migrants into the EU while simultaneously funding the parties that most militantly oppose them, sowing controversy.
EU is very naive to be easily manipulated by migration policies. 😊
4:47 Terrible news, someone you absolutely despise made a point you agree with.
Heartbreaking.
4:50 false translation. Russia for Russky(Slavs basically) - meaning nationality (because there are lots nationalities in Russia ie Dagestans, Chechens, Buryats and Yakuts which all look drastically different)- so it makes more sense why Putin called it provocative and stupid as russia cannot be just for Russky nationality as this is a country with 100s of nationalities in itself.
You can't apply neo liberal economic theory on Russia especially in a static sense. Seriously, static economics is pure fiction, but the west uses it constantly to perpetrate its economic crimes. When you measure Russia's economy based on the comparative value to other currencies, such as the US dollar, the US dollar has a false value and it is relative. So, if the value of the US dollar is inflating, it will look like the value of the ruble is increasing even though nothing about it might be changing. By most accounts that I see of the Russian economy judging by how the average person lives, it's doing okay or hasn't changed at all. It is still selling its gas and oil to Europe, but doing it through China and India. Now Europe is paying several times more for energy and it has destroyed the German manufacturing base. Russia still has vibrant trade with the BRICS nations. There are economically devastated regions of Russia that still didn't recover from the 1990's, but urban Russia is doing well. Because the Russian economy is not dominated by corporations, parts of Russia can do good or bad with its population still muddling on (they get pensions). It's not like America where a couple banks go insolvent and one quarter of the country loses their job and everyone loses a quarter of their savings, and another quarter million people get kicked out of where they live. .
Uncontrolled immigration, as recent tragic events show, kills.
They were not migratnts(they arrived to russia a month before the attack as torusits) as far as we know so far at least.
@@command_unit7792illegal immigration should be banned regardless
I think you've overesyimated the influence immigration has on Russian economy. The last slide is weird, I don't think immigration policy is on the same table as the two other topics.
Why would Putin out of all people have to care about what the population thinks?
@@ognjensijak989Even autocrats care what people think. One of the reasons why minorities and rurals were taken for the army first is because he cares what some people think.
Interesting
The current decline in births in Russia is even worse than it would initially seem. The fall in annual births in 2015 started when 9 out of the 10 biggest 1-year age groups were aged 26-35 (i.e. the ages where Russian women statistically have most children and where most 2nd and 3rd children are born). The fall in births came 5 years early and was much more pronounced than should have been the case... Russia's demographic collapse will only get worse from here on out.
It's no worse than that of most of Europe. Actually better, as the Russian government has admitted the problem and has been introducing many measures to counteract it. In Europe the only allowed measures are just to increase immigration from the Middle East and Africa.
Europe and America have the migrant issues not Russia. 🤣😂
True, Europe hires migrants from mid east and Central Asia to do handy man and tech jobs. While US hires Hispanics to do most handy man jobs and Asians to do tech and Healthcare jobs.😊
It's a trend. Northern countries in general tend to have a problem with immigration from the south. Except in the case of South Africa, which has had a problem with immigration from the north, a major cause of its current issues.
you don't know nothing about the russian world i do
russia has the same problems as the west they have the same nationalist as the west
putin is the biden guy in russia he needs to be changed
Why blaming migrants when it was Ukraine who done it if you believe Vlad :P LUL
If they drove North they would have blamed Santa on the North pole. But they drove south to Ukraine, who OBVIOUSLY, created a safety corridor straight through occupied territory that has been occupied since 2014.
Wait 20 years and remake this video about France, Germany, Sweden, UK... Or maybe even less than 20 years.
I can think of another reason for the migration policies. The russian-kazakh border is very hard, if not impossible to control in its entire length since it's mostly flat steppe. If the border crossings were closed, people would still find lots of holes in the border. That would make putin look incredibly weak. So by making people think he wants open borders it looks like he's in control.
What nonsense? There is no unemployment in Russia, but on the contrary there is a shortage of workers
Makes sense😂
That doesn't necessarily contradicts itself.
There can be a shortage of skilled labour while many people with lower degrees can't find a job.
I don't see how you can talk about any decisions as being politically dangerous for Vlad when he was just elected for his 5th term, solidifying his presidency for maybe life
His danger is never losing elections. A coup is the actual threat here
The thing is that dictatorial regimes don't usually change leadership as a result of elections... They collapse due to civil, economic and military unrest 👀
@@melissacorbett4180
I understood that to be true too.
To their own people they market their own system as a democracy.
"The best type of democracy" thus warranting the need for UN election observer's as unnecessary...
But, honestly following what happened to Prigozhin, and Navalny (just the weak before the election).
I don't really see anyone attempting to challenge Putin's reign politically or otherwise anytime soon again.
That's not what 'politically dangerous' means in Russia. You can't vote the leaders out. You can ( ) them though. That's the main concern.
If the choice was working for UAE or Russia, it might be a close call, but I'd prefer doing time in a US state penitentiary than a totalitarian state.
well not everyone is as dumb as you are lol
Shove it
The countries of Central Asia were part of the same country as Russia 34 years ago. Not like colonial territories, but full-fledged, fully integrated, with education in Russian. This is not the same as migrants from Africa and the Middle East
No, they were colonies, no matter how hard russians pretend they weren't. The British taught English and had settlers in their colonies too. Same as the Spanish. Same same, except russia did it for another 50 to 80 years after almost everyone else had stopped.
This is simply not true. My parents lived in the Soviet Union, I live in Russia and I know what it was like in those days. Every person in the USSR had the same rights, in each republic they taught and kept documents in their native language, and the development of local culture was encouraged. Resources were not simply extracted and transported from these republics, but regions with their industries were developed everywhere. It is not difficult to find people who do not respond very well to such past practices. You can say that in the USSR people in general had few rights, and I can agree with that. But a Tajik had as few rights as an ordinary Russian @cxzact9204
And every time in the West they call the policies of the Russian Empire and the USSR colonial, people from the post-Soviet space can only grin at this. Don't try to put your template on us, it doesn't work that way.@@cxzact9204
@@cxzact9204The difference between a colony and the metropoli are the political rights granted to the inhabitants. That's why Australia was a british colony while Wales wasn't, even thought native welsh weren't english ethnically while the australian were. In the Soviet Union, the political rights were equal for all citizens, and I say this as someone that dislikes socialism
@@maksim_cim Okay vatnik, if justifying your equally imperialist history without coming to terms with it and admitting your nation's part in the Imperial age (like everyone else is able to do) makes you feel better, than carry on with your revisionist alternative history, just like your president likes to do. I'm sure the Aleut and Tlingit loved being part of the empire too. History didn't start with lenin's glorious red revolution.
lmao, 'liberal immigration policy' i.e eurasian imperialism.
Russians have Central Asian laberors. While US has majority Hispanic laborers. Both blame newcomers for issues for preexisting issues.🤫 we have a lot in common. 😅
@@hackman669 yeah, except biden or trump weren't regularly quoting philosophers saying america wasn't safe til their borders extended to the pampas, latin american culture was just branch of tex-mex culture, and that all of the americas were rightful american land.
the munroe doctrine isn't even comparable to illyn's eurasianism
Karma
Ship em off to siberia
ahahaha. I'm from Krasnoyarks, grew up there. just google where it is. you know what? we've got tons of immigrants here. so sorry, no need. they go here themselves because there are tons of jobs
the fallacy in your opinion is that Putin does not have to act on the changing mood on minorities.
just letting it boil would do exactly the thing he wants, an even more right-wing wind would blow in his advantage.
He already lost control of it once with Prigozhin and Girkin, so no, it isn't necessarily to his advantage.
Even if it just expresses itself in riots, that can mean less minority recruits for the army and a rise in nationalist sentiments in minority regions; not a good thing for him.
@@thearpox7873I appreciate your well-informed insight and who can really predict how he might act, my guess is he sit on his hands on this and focus on how to get the public to the point it could escalate to ramp up actions on Ukraine.
people will keep on coming to work he does not have to be polite or nice to get them to.
but I find your approach just as sound. we will see.
You clearly don't know anything about Russian politics. There have been huge demonstrations against immigration for more than 10 years now, and Putin's response has always been to repress the ethnic Russians, bring in more immigrants and invade other countries.
CIA trained in Turkey 🇹🇷
Migration although controversial with societal issues, it contributes and strengthens the economy. Putin is well aware of this, so he won't stop it
because apparently Japan and South Korea or Taiwan because rich and developed nations with high GDP thanks to immigration?
you on crack cocaine or something?
immigration almost brings nothing to the table.
the economies of Eastern Europe after the fall of Communism and joining the European market also improved the lives of people in Poland, Romania, Baltic nations, etc.
ZERO immigration in Poland or Romania. yet the economies of Poland and Romania have increased 20 times over the last 20 years.
you know nothing about economics or immigration. just admit it.
A bit tangential, but I'd appreciate it if average wealth ($) between countries was also displayed in purchasing power parity (ppp).
that's because the economy needs those people. it's really as easy as that. without reforming the fundamentals of our economy no right wing politician will ever limit migration, no matter what nationalist rhetoric they try to spew before the election. the only thing you can do is limit migrants from culturally incompatible countries. both russia and the EU/UK failed horribly on that front. the US did better, but they have a very fortunate geographic location
You have no evidence of that. Chinas economy is booming with little to no immigration
@@archyarchfiendx2938 1) china is a centerally planned economy - despite similarties a fundamentally different system
2) china's economy is actually slowing down
3) due to the results of the one-child policy, china is currently facing the worst demographic implosion in the world. ( and that's saying something seeing as western and other asian countries have horrible demographics too)
@@tylerprudhomme
The worst demographic implosion in the world is in Ukraine not China
The UK also has a very liberal immigration policy. You just turn up in a boat and get 5^ hotel accommodation and a fantastic menu, and after a short time get free money and the right to work with citizenship on the way soon.
Yet the UK still scared all EU immigrants away
So Rwanda deportation is a Myth?
@@hasinabegum1038 The House of Commons is full of lawyers who must have known of the objections to such a plan under the Human Rights Act. They would have known that those objections would tie the matter up for yeasr in the appellate maze. They knew it would never happen but it looked good. How about building an "accommodation facility" on a remote island in the Hebrides?.
it really doesn't and the majority of your comment is absolute bs lol
@@benzo___ So the HOC generarally and govewrnment specifically, aren't predominantly made up of lawyers? Such lawyers wouldn't know that human rights objections would kick the plan into the long grass for years? Is that your counter argument? pinhead.