Everybody's got a breaking point when it comes to certain bands. We try and sum up what bands we dropped and why. Intro music by Tormented - / user-578814899 Thanks for your support.
Shout out from Truro Nova Scotia! Just wanted to say that I recently found your show and I LOVE IT!!! I am a MASSIVE Iron Maiden fan and your takes on all the albums was fantastic. I also enjoyed the breakdown of the latest Senjutsu!! I will look forward to hearing future reviews from you both in the Days of Future Past! Cheers fellas and Up The Irons!
Finally just to add to the theme of this video I want to share a few Metal bands I was one heavily into. Here they are: Saxon, Queensryche, White Wolf, and Armored Saint. What do you guys think of those bands? Cheers
Cannibal Corpse kinda makes the same album since Kill and I’ve got no problem with it. It’s interesting hearing Metallica, it’s a love/hate relationship people have with their music, the first stuff was thrash and fast, they’ve evolved very much so into rock, I like some songs of Death Magnetic. Good takes and interesting video
Question for you both: What do you think of the band Sabaton? I just recently got into them and I think they are fantastic albeit a bit different. Just interested to see how you both feel. Cheers fellas
It's good to hear the word (Buy) when it comes to albums. I personally think not spending money to buy art demenish's the quality of the artist over time. I think voting with your dollar is still the best way. Not pressing a like button & like I said down below checkout my list on your (What is the Heaviest Metal)? Enjoy the ride.
My answer (prior to watching): In Flames. Yes, Black album is amazing (Tallica). Always loved it. They lost me for the most part after that, but I will listen to newer stuff in their case. Re: In Flames. I have called R2R "The White Album" since the start. Absolutely is. Good album, but can't touch anything that came before it, and it was a dumpster fire after.
In Flames for me without a doubt. I absolutely loved their first records through Clayman. I remember being so excited for Reroute to Remain and it was a bitter pill to swallow and accept that it wasn't good and the band I loved was done.
@@lessthanhumanmusic3410 Yo man good call. I love Machine Head but their discography is spotty as fuck. The Bulldozer one whatever it’s called is completely forgettable, and starting with Unto The Locusts it’s been a steep downhill decline. Catharsis being the worst. Now they do have 3-4 digital songs they’ve released the past year that are very good and promising, so I still have hope for one more good record. Otherwise, I’m good with the first two, Through the Ashes of Empires, and The Blackening.
Blind Guardian I got tired em till i seen them play Imaginations live star to finish in 2016, revisited their discog and found no duds. In Flames and Morbid Angel...yup.
Contrarian point of view: Metallica fan since ‘85, bought MOP on its day of release and like everything they’ve done except for LuLu. And I really like Death Mag and Hardwired. Great records! No, nothing beats their first three, but a good song is a good song.
As far as bands I don't listen to at all anymore, for me it is about where I have matured as a person and if certain genres still appeal to me. When I was a budding metalhead, my go to band was Korn. I was ecstatic when I picked up their Greatest Hits vol. 1 CD and I played it to death in my Discman. As I grew older, I went back further in metal history and developed a greater appreciation for more of the melodic and classic bands. I don't listen to Korn or any nu-metal anymore, I also did away with death metal. I went through a phase where I was an extremely angry individual, mostly during my teens and the death metal bands provided a perfect vessel for that. As I've matured, I prefer neo-classical, symphonic, power, glam and classic genres the best. I agree with RDO on Ozzy. In truth, I've never cared for him as a vocalist, he suited Sabbath in the 70s and his era is the one most casual fans gravitate towards, but as a solo he doesn't do much for me, not much of a range. I also agree with Grimby on Metallica. They largely sold out to the mainstream and, like KISS, have become more of a brand instead of a band. Their attempts to collaborate within the mainstream have been embarrassing to say the least (their performance with Lady Gaga comes to mind). In closing, I've detached myself from aggressive music for the sake of it and have shifted my focus to bands that have more to offer musically.
my top band is northlane. I loved their songwriting. the prog type stuff with the psychedelic lyrics really stick with me. then adrien left and now they're just another shitty posthardcore rock band
The reason that Metallica moved away from Thrash was that they had taken it as far as they could without becoming stale. Those other Bands (Megadeth, Testament & Exodus etc) found their popularity fall for that very reason. The became stuck in a rut and could not think of anything new to do in the Trash Metal form and so started repeating themselves with rapidly diminishing returns. The greatest bands in rock (The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who & Queen etc) are bands who are able to recognise when they have gone as far as they could with their original sound and are prepared to try new idea's. I respect bands that are prepared to take chances and challenge their fans to follow them with new idea's. It may not always work (Metallica - St Anger & Lulu, Queen - Hot Space) but at least they were prepared to try and do something different.
Thrash metal's popularity and returns fell for reasons outside of Metallica, Megadeth or others control. And the genre remained fresh post-1991 with albums like Tempo of the Damned, Low or Dark Roots or Endgame. If you don't think those are fresh than maybe try Vektor, Power Trip, Havok, SkeletonWitch. Metallica had it all but dropped the ball. Thrash metal is alive and well.
@@MetalbyteMedia Thrash may still have a certain cult following but it is nowhere near as popular as it was in the late 80's and early 90's. My point is that bands have to evolve the music that they play or they will find that their music becomes stale and people become bored of hearing the same old formula. If you look at the first four Metallica albums you will see that they all follow a very similar formula. Even to the point where if they had placed Creeping Death at the end of Ride the Lightning you would have the instrumental being followed by an aggressive fast song on all four albums. Also RtL, MoP & aJfA all had the slow song that built into a fast song (Fade to Black, Welcome Home (Sanitarium) & One). If they had followed aJfA with more albums following the same formula you would have seen people moving on to something else. Like those other bands I mentioned. Metallica had to change something or they would have gradually have died out and they would now be playing small venues to a small number of people rather than the stadiums and Arena's that they still play. Also their last two albums still sold well (despite illegal downloads). If they had carried on as they were before the Black Album they would not be selling the amount of albums that they still do.
@@richardwellend3806 Really. The Rolling Stones started in the early 60's as an R&B band, By the mid 60's they were experimenting with Psychedelic/Art Rock, The late 60's/early 70's it was Hard Rock & Country Rock, Then by the mid 70's they added Funk Rock & Disco to their sound, in the late 70's they apparently even dabbled with a bit of punk rock and reggae. Even some of their recent albums have tried different things. You may not like them (fair enough). I am not a huge fan of the Rolling Stones. But no one can take away the fact that they created some outstanding music and were always trying to do something different where possible. That is better than the likes of Status Quo or AC/DC who just tried to reinvent the same formula again and again and again.
Metallica from The Black Album onwards until Death Magnetic wasn't fast thrash metal anymore In Flames went from classic Gothenburg melodic death metal to generic indie rock Machine Head put out The Blackening & Unto the Locust, then their lyrics became embarrassing Opeth after Heritage sounded like a Gentle giant progressive rock ripoff instead of their early sound The Sword went from exciting doom metal & stoner rock band to a Lynyrd Sknyrd country rock group
I'm surprised that you're shocked bands like Metallica and In Flames have more fans now after they've become shit than before. I mean it's quite obvious, metal simply isn't that popular of a genre so the more relaxed and mainstream metal bands get the more accessible they become to the masses while losing their most hardcore fans in the process. It's a simple exchange of fewer super hardcore fans for hordes of simpletons who don't even like metal.
@@MetalbyteMedia Why? Bands ultimately want to make money, like everyone else. If selling out means earning more money, significantly more, than it's a very strong incentive to do so. Besides there are already other reasons to diversify, regardless of selling out, like: 'variety is the spice of life' and all that. If said variety happens to be in the form of selling out in order to maximize financial gain too than so be it. It's a much easier step than diversifying into something else that won't make as much money.
Used to love Metallica but since And Justice, bleh. I do like parts of the last 2 but their whole 90's/00s output is zzzzzz. Ozzy, Love his first 6 but then he got really stale. Not to mention Zakk's guitar playing is so irritating with is constant pinch harmonics. Morbid Angel was so fantastic but now they suck.
You guys deserve more attention. This channel is great!
Keep the vids coming guys. I don't really listen to metal much but I freaking love this channel and you guys rock. 🤘🏻
Shout out from Truro Nova Scotia! Just wanted to say that I recently found your show and I LOVE IT!!! I am a MASSIVE Iron Maiden fan and your takes on all the albums was fantastic. I also enjoyed the breakdown of the latest Senjutsu!! I will look forward to hearing future reviews from you both in the Days of Future Past! Cheers fellas and Up The Irons!
Truro represent!~ haha
Yeah Truro! Thanks dude! We got a full Priest Discog vid done! Will be out sometime this year.
Yea I’m really enjoying the conversations. Good stuff
Some would claim that Watershed was Opeths Black album… brilliant album but started the full shift to prog rock. Still love them.
Limp Bizkit is rocking the set... it's like russian roulette, when you're placing your bets.
Oh it’s you guys again
There's one song i really love on Ozzy's latest album and it's Under The Graveyard, i fucking love that song.
Finally just to add to the theme of this video I want to share a few Metal bands I was one heavily into. Here they are: Saxon, Queensryche, White Wolf, and Armored Saint. What do you guys think of those bands? Cheers
Actually, I was in the same boat on Rhapsody until they released the Turilli/Lione album. It's not classic Rhapsody but it's so good
Long time no see
Cannibal Corpse kinda makes the same album since Kill and I’ve got no problem with it. It’s interesting hearing Metallica, it’s a love/hate relationship people have with their music, the first stuff was thrash and fast, they’ve evolved very much so into rock, I like some songs of Death Magnetic. Good takes and interesting video
Question for you both: What do you think of the band Sabaton? I just recently got into them and I think they are fantastic albeit a bit different. Just interested to see how you both feel. Cheers fellas
Yo!... Sabaton is a really super OK band that has a shit ton of fans and I have no real issues with them but also don't really listen to them much.
It's good to hear the word (Buy) when it comes to albums. I personally think not spending money to buy art demenish's the quality of the artist over time. I think voting with your dollar is still the best way. Not pressing a like button & like I said down below checkout my list on your (What is the Heaviest Metal)? Enjoy the ride.
My answer (prior to watching): In Flames.
Yes, Black album is amazing (Tallica). Always loved it. They lost me for the most part after that, but I will listen to newer stuff in their case.
Re: In Flames. I have called R2R "The White Album" since the start. Absolutely is. Good album, but can't touch anything that came before it, and it was a dumpster fire after.
haha same my first thought was in flames
In Flames for me without a doubt. I absolutely loved their first records through Clayman. I remember being so excited for Reroute to Remain and it was a bitter pill to swallow and accept that it wasn't good and the band I loved was done.
@@lessthanhumanmusic3410 Yo man good call. I love Machine Head but their discography is spotty as fuck. The Bulldozer one whatever it’s called is completely forgettable, and starting with Unto The Locusts it’s been a steep downhill decline. Catharsis being the worst. Now they do have 3-4 digital songs they’ve released the past year that are very good and promising, so I still have hope for one more good record. Otherwise, I’m good with the first two, Through the Ashes of Empires, and The Blackening.
First thoughts: In Flames, Morbid Angel, Blind Guardian
Blind Guardian I got tired em till i seen them play Imaginations live star to finish in 2016, revisited their discog and found no duds. In Flames and Morbid Angel...yup.
You should also do a video for "Bands who made shitty albums but we still like"
Contrarian point of view: Metallica fan since ‘85, bought MOP on its day of release and like everything they’ve done except for LuLu. And I really like Death Mag and Hardwired. Great records! No, nothing beats their first three, but a good song is a good song.
As far as bands I don't listen to at all anymore, for me it is about where I have matured as a person and if certain genres still appeal to me. When I was a budding metalhead, my go to band was Korn. I was ecstatic when I picked up their Greatest Hits vol. 1 CD and I played it to death in my Discman. As I grew older, I went back further in metal history and developed a greater appreciation for more of the melodic and classic bands. I don't listen to Korn or any nu-metal anymore, I also did away with death metal. I went through a phase where I was an extremely angry individual, mostly during my teens and the death metal bands provided a perfect vessel for that. As I've matured, I prefer neo-classical, symphonic, power, glam and classic genres the best. I agree with RDO on Ozzy. In truth, I've never cared for him as a vocalist, he suited Sabbath in the 70s and his era is the one most casual fans gravitate towards, but as a solo he doesn't do much for me, not much of a range. I also agree with Grimby on Metallica. They largely sold out to the mainstream and, like KISS, have become more of a brand instead of a band. Their attempts to collaborate within the mainstream have been embarrassing to say the least (their performance with Lady Gaga comes to mind). In closing, I've detached myself from aggressive music for the sake of it and have shifted my focus to bands that have more to offer musically.
Love the channel guys. OPETH betrayed us all lol 🤣
Agree about Ozzy and Metallica, but for some reason, I always check for their new stuff. Glutton for punishment I guess.
Morbid Angel - Illud Divinum Insanus
Slayer - God hates us all
Size note: band that has stayed “consistent” - Carcass
@Attila Steele great album ,Corporal Jigsore Quandary is my favourite song on it.
Carcass, absolutely. Been a fan since Necroticism. They continuously put out fantastic albums (preorders on their newest just went up a day ago!)
By the way...Metallica's Hardwired in my opinion was a return to their old style of music. A truly GREAT album! Cheers fellas!
The televangelist song was on no prayer for the dying? Wow that’s a Maiden song? No. It is not.
Metallica, Machine Head, Sepultura, Slayer, W.A.S.P.
Sad but true
my top band is northlane.
I loved their songwriting. the prog type stuff with the psychedelic lyrics really stick with me. then adrien left and now they're just another shitty posthardcore rock band
Opeth rules still!!
The first two Avantasia albums were awesome and everything after that has been a disappointment. A Metal Opera 1and 2.
My view is the exact opposite: zero interest in the first two and absolutely love everything that came after.
Moga
I like 13 more than ordinary man
Its funny you say the first four albums are masterpieces. Those are the ones directly or indirectly influenced by Dave Mustaine.
I saw Metallica live recently and they were great! Every song was flawless. I’m sure you’ll enjoy it even if you’re only a fan of first 4-5 albums
The reason that Metallica moved away from Thrash was that they had taken it as far as they could without becoming stale.
Those other Bands (Megadeth, Testament & Exodus etc) found their popularity fall for that very reason. The became stuck in a rut and could not think of anything new to do in the Trash Metal form and so started repeating themselves with rapidly diminishing returns.
The greatest bands in rock (The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who & Queen etc) are bands who are able to recognise when they have gone as far as they could with their original sound and are prepared to try new idea's.
I respect bands that are prepared to take chances and challenge their fans to follow them with new idea's. It may not always work (Metallica - St Anger & Lulu, Queen - Hot Space) but at least they were prepared to try and do something different.
Thrash metal's popularity and returns fell for reasons outside of Metallica, Megadeth or others control.
And the genre remained fresh post-1991 with albums like Tempo of the Damned, Low or Dark Roots or Endgame.
If you don't think those are fresh than maybe try Vektor, Power Trip, Havok, SkeletonWitch.
Metallica had it all but dropped the ball. Thrash metal is alive and well.
@@MetalbyteMedia Thrash may still have a certain cult following but it is nowhere near as popular as it was in the late 80's and early 90's.
My point is that bands have to evolve the music that they play or they will find that their music becomes stale and people become bored of hearing the same old formula.
If you look at the first four Metallica albums you will see that they all follow a very similar formula. Even to the point where if they had placed Creeping Death at the end of Ride the Lightning you would have the instrumental being followed by an aggressive fast song on all four albums. Also RtL, MoP & aJfA all had the slow song that built into a fast song (Fade to Black, Welcome Home (Sanitarium) & One).
If they had followed aJfA with more albums following the same formula you would have seen people moving on to something else.
Like those other bands I mentioned. Metallica had to change something or they would have gradually have died out and they would now be playing small venues to a small number of people rather than the stadiums and Arena's that they still play.
Also their last two albums still sold well (despite illegal downloads). If they had carried on as they were before the Black Album they would not be selling the amount of albums that they still do.
Hey man, its all cool. I don't mind Metallica apologists I mean I do the same with Maiden all the time. Lol. Cheers.
All due respect and all but...
The rolling stones never knew when to quit and never ever ever changed style, so boring!
@@richardwellend3806 Really. The Rolling Stones started in the early 60's as an R&B band, By the mid 60's they were experimenting with Psychedelic/Art Rock, The late 60's/early 70's it was Hard Rock & Country Rock, Then by the mid 70's they added Funk Rock & Disco to their sound, in the late 70's they apparently even dabbled with a bit of punk rock and reggae. Even some of their recent albums have tried different things. You may not like them (fair enough). I am not a huge fan of the Rolling Stones. But no one can take away the fact that they created some outstanding music and were always trying to do something different where possible. That is better than the likes of Status Quo or AC/DC who just tried to reinvent the same formula again and again and again.
Same with Maiden … people seem to still love them despite the week material.
Metallica replaced drugs with money when they found out they could commercialize.
Metallica from The Black Album onwards until Death Magnetic wasn't fast thrash metal anymore
In Flames went from classic Gothenburg melodic death metal to generic indie rock
Machine Head put out The Blackening & Unto the Locust, then their lyrics became embarrassing
Opeth after Heritage sounded like a Gentle giant progressive rock ripoff instead of their early sound
The Sword went from exciting doom metal & stoner rock band to a Lynyrd Sknyrd country rock group
I'm surprised that you're shocked bands like Metallica and In Flames have more fans now after they've become shit than before. I mean it's quite obvious, metal simply isn't that popular of a genre so the more relaxed and mainstream metal bands get the more accessible they become to the masses while losing their most hardcore fans in the process. It's a simple exchange of fewer super hardcore fans for hordes of simpletons who don't even like metal.
Its not the popularity or fans that shock me, it's the bands.
@@MetalbyteMedia Why? Bands ultimately want to make money, like everyone else. If selling out means earning more money, significantly more, than it's a very strong incentive to do so. Besides there are already other reasons to diversify, regardless of selling out, like: 'variety is the spice of life' and all that. If said variety happens to be in the form of selling out in order to maximize financial gain too than so be it. It's a much easier step than diversifying into something else that won't make as much money.
Used to love Metallica but since And Justice, bleh. I do like parts of the last 2 but their whole 90's/00s output is zzzzzz. Ozzy, Love his first 6 but then he got really stale. Not to mention Zakk's guitar playing is so irritating with is constant pinch harmonics. Morbid Angel was so fantastic but now they suck.
Maiden the most overrated band in metal history
Metallica
The BEST metal band ever!!! (In my opinion...sorry)
Haven't done a thing since 86'
I totally disagree