Iron Warriors Part 2 Getting Started in Horus Heresy

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2024

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  • @JD-bh6eo
    @JD-bh6eo Před 2 lety +51

    Iron within…

  • @hironagamaki9744
    @hironagamaki9744 Před 2 lety +23

    Well IW vs IF grudge match will be found at least once in every tournament

  • @thewayfarer8849
    @thewayfarer8849 Před 2 lety +33

    "If you have 10 of these guys, you're firing...20 strength 8 AP3 missiles"
    Iron Warrior players need a ciggarette. Feels like Dantioch about to drop the Schadenhold.

    • @CyberDagger003
      @CyberDagger003 Před 2 lety +6

      Now have a Siege Breaker warlord with Tyrant of the Lyssatra join them. You'll need a giant cigar for that one.

    • @razalfraz6618
      @razalfraz6618 Před rokem

      @@CyberDagger003 you can make a siege breaker your warlord?

    • @CyberDagger003
      @CyberDagger003 Před rokem +1

      @@razalfraz6618 Warlords don't have to be praetors. You need one to have a rite of war, but your warlord can be any consul.

    • @user-dp4ok9ox5w
      @user-dp4ok9ox5w Před rokem

      @@CyberDagger003 Not any consul, but any with master of the legion rule (like Delegatus iirc), otherwise you cannot take rites of war.

    • @CyberDagger003
      @CyberDagger003 Před rokem

      @@user-dp4ok9ox5w You can bring a Praetor (or Delegatus) along and make someone else the warlord. Just being in the list meets the requirements for taking a RoW.

  • @nauticalmandems
    @nauticalmandems Před 2 lety +14

    Predator squadrons with +1 autocannon against vehicles and pinning heavy bolters are amazingly points efficient.

  • @christopherroutt4937
    @christopherroutt4937 Před 2 lety +22

    We here now bois. What we all been waitin for. But seriously, they are so damn good but are almost totally neglected in terms of unique characters.

    • @TmsFin
      @TmsFin Před 2 lety +6

      They are all in the PDF... Except Perturabo, that's the only one we get! Sure PDF are still playable, but its not like we wanted to have any in the Libre itself...

  • @Mittens_Gaming
    @Mittens_Gaming Před 2 lety +14

    I have a suspicion that many units which were kind of nerfed in the PDF will be released later in plastic and when the new edition comes out in 3-4 years, that they will be buffed, for sales. The Medusa and such come to mind.

    • @chrishoward8827
      @chrishoward8827 Před rokem +1

      I reckon why GW nerfed templates/blasts to oblivion. Are due to the fact, (the cynic in me believes) they are going to turn HH into 10th/11th ed. In 3/4 years time. So they use the same rules as 40K. Why else nerf them to high heaven? While buffing already strong weapons/units.

  • @eman8047
    @eman8047 Před 2 lety +5

    I have started with this edition with Iron Warriors and have been able to beat players much better than myself. Although I've still lost a good number of my games I never thought it was because my list was weak just because of how consistent the army is.

  • @loltwest9423
    @loltwest9423 Před rokem +1

    So, it's the Sergeant granting them Night Vision! That's the fucker who kept giving my Legion so much trouble! Alright, I know who I'm putting my sniper shots into!

  • @PraetorHesperus
    @PraetorHesperus Před 2 lety +3

    I don't think you can give the shrapnel bolts to a rapier, as it doesn't just have four heavy bolters, it instead has a separately listed quad heavy bolter weapon. Even though the stats would be identical, that isn't one of the weapons listed that can be upgraded. I've run into this issue a lot trying to build my Iron Warriors list actually, all of the twin heavy bolters, combi bolters, etc. that you'd want to give them to don't seem to be eligible for the upgrade, unless I'm missing something. Not sure if it's intentional for balance or just an oversight, but it is kind of annoying.

  • @DarkKnightCuron
    @DarkKnightCuron Před 2 lety +2

    While I'm still tempted to do an Iron Warriors Tank Company, I'm slowly being tempted more to do Demons. Still got a ways to go before truly considering it tho

  • @Prime1JR
    @Prime1JR Před 2 lety +2

    Woot woot

  • @Mittens_Gaming
    @Mittens_Gaming Před 2 lety +1

    STR 9 predator autocannons.... it's going to be very strong, though I personally feel dreads and infantry seem much stronger than vehicles now.

  • @shankley_has_a_brush
    @shankley_has_a_brush Před 2 lety

    Worth the wait.

  • @Pikkabuu
    @Pikkabuu Před 2 lety +3

    I don't know about Tyrants. They should be a very strong unit but have underperformed in every game I have had them out. IW doesn't have problems with vehicles and the Tyrants firepower, especially AP, isn't enough to kill elite units or dreadnaughts.
    So they are good against basic infantry or mass vehicles.
    Also WS4 is really bad...
    Or do I have just bad luck with my opponents squashing my Tyrants with dreadnaughts and 2+ armour units?

    • @razalfraz6618
      @razalfraz6618 Před rokem

      Trust me you’re not alone It’s just really really hard to deploy em every big gun is trained on them the second they are deployed

  • @andrewparker3996
    @andrewparker3996 Před rokem

    Something big you missed is Fury of Olympia is active all the time. Even if the unit as moved.

  • @anguswilsonspillane1302
    @anguswilsonspillane1302 Před 2 lety +2

    Finallly the IVth Legion

  • @loke801
    @loke801 Před 2 lety

    Finally my favorite legion!

  • @yagsipcc287
    @yagsipcc287 Před 2 lety +2

    Great stuff as always bud. Doing God's work 😋

  • @zhaorai8639
    @zhaorai8639 Před rokem

    Damn, and here I wanted to have a veteran squad all with grav mauls. guess I'll need a different loadout for them then

  • @tramico96
    @tramico96 Před 2 lety +2

    Now the world makes more sense 🤣
    Iron Within

  • @davidesolvi1700
    @davidesolvi1700 Před 2 lety +1

    Due to gets hot being at the ap of the weapon, using Bitter Fury with lascannons or meltas Will Just instakill your marines, instead probably the best application of the advanced reaction Is on Siege Tyrants as they get, either 4 shots at strength 8 and ap 3, or 8 shots at strength 4 ap 6 and pinning, in either case they still get their full 2 up save

    • @razalfraz6618
      @razalfraz6618 Před rokem

      I can see it now man a 10 man tyrant squad gets shot at by a leviathan and then the leviathan is met with 80 strength 6 shots in return 😂

  • @MLaak86
    @MLaak86 Před rokem

    TBH pry my #2 Legion, just ID with them on lore grounds and I blame the Mandalorian for giving me more of an appreciation of silver armour lol.

  • @jamesespinosa690
    @jamesespinosa690 Před 2 lety

    Hey Macca! Thanks for the vid!
    Quick question. In HH1.0 Sicaran Venators could take 4 heavy bolters for some strange reason. Is this still possible in 2.0??
    With the new profile for the HB, it could be putting out 16 shots!!!

  • @dpsmaztorbator
    @dpsmaztorbator Před 2 lety

    Do Dark Angels next!🙃

  • @mandulis3410
    @mandulis3410 Před 2 lety

    things that the tyrant siege termionators aren't strenght 8 against with aa missles: Every Flyer if taken as a reward of treachery

  • @TheSixYardBox
    @TheSixYardBox Před 2 lety

    With bitter fury is it just the impending casualty models that get to shoot before being removed or the whole unit that just got attacked?

  • @BaranzarCobralVOD
    @BaranzarCobralVOD Před 2 lety +1

    With you mentioning that automata are bad now I assume are they still bad with mechanicum or has GW at least made sure that half the book there won't suck?

    • @AuramiteEX
      @AuramiteEX Před 2 lety

      They aren't bad. They simply aren't automatically better than all the Marine Legion units.
      In HHv1 Mechanicus were simply superior

    • @pablosturm6640
      @pablosturm6640 Před 2 lety +1

      @@AuramiteEX This. You could take a normal Matrix of Ruin detachment and just break the game with your two Ordinatus Ulators.

  • @AuramiteEX
    @AuramiteEX Před 2 lety +1

    Very powerful Legion but ot encourages a somewhat boring, safe and static play style.

  • @danielroberts8049
    @danielroberts8049 Před 2 lety

    The graviton weapons can only be taken on characters

    • @TheOuterCircle
      @TheOuterCircle  Před 2 lety +1

      There's exceptions on several units.

    • @danielroberts8049
      @danielroberts8049 Před 2 lety

      @@TheOuterCircle it literally says in the book that only characters can have the mauls and crushers and chosen warriors etc doesn’t actually make them characters

    • @TheOuterCircle
      @TheOuterCircle  Před 2 lety +2

      @@danielroberts8049 no, it doesn't make them characters, but I said there are exceptions, such as Dreadnoughts, and Domitar Ferrum which can either upgrade to, or come with said weapons.

    • @danielroberts8049
      @danielroberts8049 Před 2 lety

      @@TheOuterCircle and are infinitely worse versions than the str14/15 brutal3 fists

    • @TheOuterCircle
      @TheOuterCircle  Před 2 lety

      @@danielroberts8049 for sure. I think a character who wants to hunt tanks/dreads, yeah maybe it could work? You'd need an awful lot of attacks however.

  • @alexv1387
    @alexv1387 Před 2 lety +1

    Siege!