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Epson P600 Review: Make Prints at Home!
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2015
- We've been making prints at home with the Epson P600--we review it and give some tips. You can buy one for about $750 on Amazon help.tc/p600.
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I own the larger version of this printer and I can honestly say it is the best printer I've ever owned. The prints from it are amazing and pretty much hassle free. It's much easier than any printer I've ever used to get it to accurately reproduce the colors on my monitor. In the past my biggest gripe with Epson was how much ink their printers throw away each time you fire it up, but it seems this printer manages ink a lot better and the cartridges (albeit more expensive) are absolutely huge, so I find myself changing them out a lot less often. Overall, my experience with this class of printer from Epson has been flawless. But be warned, these printer are large. The P800 is massive! I wasn't prepared for how large it was when it arrived. Fortunately it connects very easily to my office network so I didn't need to keep it on my desktop and found space in another room in my studio to store it.
+Tony Northrup I love the videos and Im sure everyone has their two cents to add... Sooo anyway on the P600 review here are my notes I can offer haha.
The Epson P600 uses an Ultrachrome series of pigment based ink. Unlike dye based inks, pigment inks will help slow down fading process and do not need to be sprayed to be archival. This is because of the bonding that happens with the pigment pellets and the microporous coating in the paper.
A print from a P600 printer using Epson's Ultrachrome ink will give an unprotected print fade resistance of +50 years, under UV glass +100 years, and in complete darkness +200 years...
Check out the www.wilhelm-research.com/ they are the leaders in testing the archivalness of inks but fair warning their website is in desperate need of some Squarespace help haha. and I hope this helps with any further reviews :)
Finally Id also try some Hahnemuhle FineArt Baryta Paper if you like the Epson luster paper. The DMaX on it is insane.... just insane lol
Nice review. Printing at home is a lot more fun than I thought it would be. It's also a lot easier.
congrats on 400k subscribers!
+KidWeazel Thanks!
Wow it's 1.3M subs now :D
A very detailed review. Even covers different types of paper, ink and the mobile app. Thanks.
Awesome video, really helpful. The P600 looks pretty good.
I don't have this particular printer, but I only use Epson scanners and printers for the most part. I have had many other brands and I just keep coming back to Epson. I will look into this one but not sure if I have the space, It does look pretty big! Thanks for the quick review!
Being a Nikon guy I hate to refer a Canon, but they do make awesome printers. Have you tried the Canon Pixma iX6820? The prints are so darn clear they look almost 3D.
love all of your video, I have learnt so much and still learning. thank you for what you do to make us better on what we do
I have the Canon Pro 100 and it's perfect to me. Easy to pick the type of paper. The best part, only around $200 and does up to 13x19, but clients mostly want 8x10 or 5x7.
The advantage and main reason for buying a pigment-based inkjet like this one is that the prints don't fade like dye-based ones do. When I bought my first pigment printer many photographers still prefered dye-based for the little more color punch and pigment was mainly chosen for archiving prints that don't fade. Nowadays I don't think it matters much, although some still prefer the quality of, say, the Canon Pro 100 over the Canon Pro 1(0), even though the prints of the latter should last longer. Anyway, I have a lot of prints on my wall under normal glass, partly exposed to sunlight and they haven't faded over years.
That all only applies to prints made with original ink by the way. I've only had horrible experiences with third party replacements especially for Epson pigment printers. More cleaning than printing, the colors shift and it appears as if the replacements are often indeed dye-based and do fade faster.
One last thing about cost - I think the "trial and error" time only applies to the first few weeks or so, depending on how much you print. After a while you just know where to click what and rarely waste a print anymore, especially once you found your favorite paper type.
Tony I was on the fence about this printer after watching another review. After watching your video, well, I think I need to buy this. Seems like the tech had gotten much better in the last 5 years. Thanks
Great, but unless you going to print every day or 3 times a week that good. but if you know used it as i mentioned you be wasting your money, ink will dry out. high maintenance etc. That's why it's much easyer to have the pro's do your printing and they can do it much cheaper. Anyway great video this printer. 👍
I agree! I had an Artisan 1430 that I wound up tossing in the trash because the print heads started clogging only a few months after I bought it!
If you are not going to print a few pages a week then you should not buy a printer like this one. I have this printer and I think there are a few problem, one is the sharing of photo black and matte black channel that waste ink during the ink change process. In term of maintenance you will need to install a waste ink tank some time during the life span of this printer. Running cost is reasonable when you use good third party inks like Cone, Precision Colors, Inkowls, inkrepublic etc. If you are going to use Epson original ink the P800 is a better option than P600.
I am digtal drawing artist who makes very detailed drawings. I was looking for a printer for a long time but the search was very difficult. There are not a lot of video's of drawing artist. This week i order the Epson sc p 600 and i am very curious how it prints my work. I really like your video btw.
I've used Epson printers and Lightroom for many years, and I have prints that get sunlight on them on a daily basis. These prints have very minimal fading and some of them are over 8 years old. I had to move from Aperture to Lightroom, mainly because printing from Aperture was an absolute nightmare. Adobe software has always been a breeze to print from. As for paper, Epson paper is the best, and I have tried many brands of paper. Thanks for the video, my current Epson is coming to the end of its life and I am looking for a replacement.
This fellow (Tony) has such a nice way about him. Plus, I think the printer will do the job for me. Thanx for your review.
You guys should do a compilation video titled "best of Chit Chat 2015" where you showcase the funniest comments and moments during the Chit Chat segment of all the live shows in 2015, it would be so great!
Dear Tony hank's for review. I bought p600 last week. and I'm loving with the printer.but I hard to choose the right paper.and on youtube don't have any review using the epson signature worthy paper. choose one photo and print on diferent paper
Thanks Tony. I would love to see an update on this video. Any chance of discussing printing black and white with this printer?
Well im still waiting for Epsom to ring me & ask if id like to try one at home......
!What is the name of the application in the app Store
Thank you for the great information
750 prints to break even plus anything you might want to pay for a colour accurate monitor. If you are part of a club and can get people to pay for prints then it could make sense. Otherwise very niche or personal preference.
+Bowie Sensei That doesn't even include mistakes or incorrect color profiles and replacing ink. That number of 750 is probably more like 1000 prints to break even. In the long run, subbing out printing will beat the investment and aggravation of buying a premium photo printer every day of the week.
+Bowie Sensei Agreed that it'll take some printing to pay for itself but you can't really include the cost of a color accurate monitor. That's something you'd want to have regardless of where your prints come from. I think the biggest advantage is being able to get a print right then without having to wait for shipping.
I have a question about borderless printing on the P600. When you select borderless printing does it force you to expand the image? Like on the Epson 1430 it forces me to select an expansion of "min", "med" and "max". Does the P600 include a "no expansion" borderless printing option?
When should I raise or lower iso or exposure compensation? I hope this question makes sense ! Thank you for all your input .
Raising the ISO increases the amount of noise in the photo, so it is usually best to use as low of and ISO as possible. Exposure compensation is like a manual override to how your camera is exposing. If the camera underexposes the subject and overexposes the background, you can raise the exposure to properly expose the subject (but now the background will likely be overexposed). Exposure compensation can also be used for HDR techniques.
Thanks ! That really helped .
Excellent video Tony. Thank you. Question....ive noticed at times when I print that small white dots will show up on the print (usually just one or two). I believe that is dust blocking the flow of ink. Have you ever had that happen and if so, what have you done to combat this? Thanks again Tony.
I've seen a few comments about the ink drying without regular use. This printer may be overkill for a hobbyist like me, I don't crank out prints every day for business. On the other hand, whatever prints I make, I want them to look great, and I'd like to be able to do canvas and other specialty paper. Full circle, the ink drying is a killer. Is it any less so with Canon printers in the same class?
I've wrecked a few printers using generic ink. I'd never use it again, plus I found the colors fade a lot faster as well.
You don't mention whether this printer uses inkjet or pigment ink. I'm guessing pigment. I have the Canon 9500 Mk II pigment printer, which is about the same size, and I like it fine, though pigment ink sure is fussy! Printer is always pausing to shake up the ink tanks to prevent pigment particle settling.
One thing I really like about the Epson as opposed to the Canon is the roll paper add-on. The Canon 9500 Mk II only prints sheets. It has a rear feed in addition to a top sheet feed, but that's just for feeding through heavy art papers and burlap and such - no roll capability.
These machines are fine if you do a lot of printing, I emphasise “a lot” of printing. If you don’t be prepared to spend time doing maintenance schedules and spend a fortune on inks. Do your research carefully before you buy because these types of printers are money pits if you don’t print lots regularly. I no longer use my Canon Pro 1 I use an Epson ET-7750 - not a dedicated photo printer but it does a great job and is really low cost and does everything.
.... whooo... I don't know. Printing seems great, but with so many awesome online photo labs these days $750 bucks will buy you a lot of prints made by labs.
One thing that has changed in the past say 5-7 years is that you can get amazing prints more so than ever without owning your own printer. Even big prints are available to most everyone at fairly reasonable costs. Yes, I know obviously high end inkjet prints are going to be usually superior to what most online labs can do for you, but still.
i bought a p600. i have run a couple of boxes of paper thru, but now it will not feed prperly, eithe the paper is not caught or it just passes thru. i contacted Epson and their AI suggested i try a different companies printer.
Awesome video great info
Hey tony, I have trouble with my t6i. It has a sound recording option but it only switches from on to off. So now i don't know how to turn on my external mic. Please help :(.
Hey if you still have this printer, could you do a B&W test? I have an Epson L355 at home, and have been printing some pics on it, all color. But when I tested a B&W, it was horrible, the printer could not match all the grey tones nedded, and I had to use a local store, which printed on a Kodak Printer, and it perfect. So I would like to know if this printer, which is like, 6x more expensive than mine, is capable of printing B&W pics.
What you think about Costco print ? Thank you
How about the ink consumption? How many pages A4 can be printed by using 1 cantridge?
I feel that if you're going down the route of printing, you're better off with either an instax or zink printer, and leave the pros to print the best ones once in a while.
MrKdr500 Of course, but they serve the purpose of making people reminisce. How many prints do you need to make on this before you break even? It doesn't make any sense unless its used commercially.
Hey im watching you and you guys are great. Helped me alot, but i do have a question. You were doing a video with telephoto lenses the sigma,tamron and canon. You were reviewing the sigma 150-600 Sport. And it is to heavy, but sigma has the contemporary version that is lighter. So whats with that? Is IT good? Im interested in the contemporary and It would help me if you say something. Thanks Northups :)
will you be doing a review for fractureme printing? I have being experimenting with aluminum printing its not too bad :)
Thanks Tony!
Hey +Tony Northrup I have a few questions for you. Sorry they aren't related to this video.
First is about lenses specific for APS-C cameras, are the focal lengths relative to full-frame, or APS-C?
(I have the 7DM2, and the sigma 18-35 f1.8, so, at 35mm, am I shooting at the 56mm FF equivalent? or am I shooting at 35mm FF equivalent? *has that conversion already been calculated into the stated focal length on the APS-C specific lens?)
Second question, How do you prevent a lens from fogging on the inside of the lens in the winter?
The lenses are always and through all manufacteres labelled for full frame equivalent. For APS-C cameras you have to multiply with the crop factor 1.6 x for Canon and 1.5 for Nikon)
I currently hold a 16 mpxl fujifilm xe2. does anyone know if that is enough data to print the larger prints as seen in this video with this printer without a huge loss of quality?
What is the life span of the printer?
Cant beat that endura metallic paper to impress the clients. Even tho it makes so sense to order anything glossy if you plan to frame the image. $800 plus ink cost logically makes no sense to me. These printing shops are ridiculously cheap.
I honestly wanna buy an epson printer, but unless my schedules packed full of customers theirs no point
it will eat more money than it would bring in sadly
Thank you
can i print on vinyl tape
Cost of the ink? OEM vs 3rd party
By tony I need a good printer is Epsom that good as I give photos of my family my printer canon only prints one size mate is that full name of the Epsom please help cheers peter.
+superpete62 Heya, Peter. It's the Epson P600 (sdp.io/p600). They sent this to us as freebie, so I might be biased, but we've been using it ever since and it's been great. It handles different sized papers with no problem at all.
thanks tony am still looking at few more reviews before i buy i lv your vids and going to get the lightroom 5 ebook off the net does it work on iPad mini as i have your book digi photography great book mate great work keep it up for us newbes.
can it print on pp sticker
How do you get custom frame sizes? I have a lot of 16x9 photos I want to frame but it seems those are very hard to come by.
+Vic Vinegar try "art to frames". That's what we use.
Tony Northrup cool! thanks for responding! Big fan of the channel!
I think these are fine in a household of photographers but if you're a hobbyist who might go for months without printing, the heads clog and you end up throwing the printer away. After the second printer had terminal clogging I won't buy another.
It's funny how you said "I took this picture with my iPhone", but you have your pictures in a Samsung. Perhaps we are now getting to a point when we say 'I took this with my iPhone' and it's synonymous to any smart phone camera.
M8 get the canon iP8760 it's a beast
+Artrical A What is the difference betwen 8760 and 8750, because the 8750 is quite cheaper then th Epson P600, and the 8760 they don't have an my country. At least not online.
I would love to see a comparison between the 8760/50 and the P600. The P600 is way to expensive, but the 8750 seem to have an ok price.
Inks play an important role in the printing process. Epson professional Ultrachrome K3 inks are advertised to last up 100 years for color and 200 for B&W (under normal glass), so to say you can use generic inks is a little misleading as it is always better to use the professional Epson inks with these professional Epson printers and a main point for buying one of these printers in the first place. These inks are engineered together with the paper and print heads to produce professional level prints. One without the other defeats the purpose of this printer.
what size paper is the largest for this printer ?
A3+
Where can I find the exact technique for your high resolution stitched panorama?
+perfectforehand Chapter 2 of Stunning Digital Photography.
Is it called image averaging?
And the mystery technique is called...
Thanks, I use Photoshop Elements 13.
I would use if Epson would send me one :) But its about 750 Dollars in Denmark... I can get a lot of prints for that price... :) For me... it's just to expensive.... and thats without carts...
My dog cowboy and my wife giddy up.
Shit man... This printer costs like 3 regular salaries in Russia. I envy you guys.
+Oleg Sobakin and when you know that epson sent them all this free of cost :D
+Oleg Sobakin we will trade you an Obama for a Putin! ha-ha.
+Oleg Sobakin
Nothing to envy.. while we in the west seem to pride ourselves on having disposable income it is a trap of consumerism..
Modern day slavery convincing the masses to keep up with trends.
I too have fallen into the immediate gratification trap of digital photography.
I kick myself for having sold Mamiya super press 23, lenses, and assorted backs along with most of my Minolta SRT 100, 101, 102 bodies and lenses that are now 40+ years old, that in the end produce better print results albeit one has to wait for film processing and find a reputable print lab..
Tony , Is it possible to do a print-test-strip / small print first , before committing to a large one that maybe "off" on your expectations ? I've no experience with this equipment . I quit printing when I bailed on Dark Room B and W years back now ..........
Yeah, I often print a smaller format (like 4x6) before going big, just to save on costs.
Thanks Tony . Thanks for all the equipment reviews over the years : much appreciated ! I'm a Canon 5Dii/iii and L glass collection user .
If you want to print accurately on any brand of inkjet printer, there are many considerations that need to be take.
1. Paper, most of the photographer that print on inkjet printers use lustre, Satin or semi gloss type paper for their photo prints. There are many brands to choose from different manufacturers. From printer makers like Epson, HP and Canon, from paper makers like Canson, Ilford, Chromajet etc
2. Ink, you can use third party ink but you need to make sure you are buying from a brand that is reputable and has the reputation in producing a consistent working product. From US suppliers you can trust Precision Color, InkJet Mall, Ink Owl and InkJetcart in delivering great inks, in UK you can try Colour Best.
3. Having good ink and good paper you will also need printer is printing using the correct settings to produce great pictures, this is why you need to invest in simple tool like X-Rite ColorMunki photo, Color Munki photo allow you to accurately produce a colour profile for your ink sets and paper, this is critical for people using third party inks or on papers.
Once you got all three sorted it is very easy to produce accurate professional level prints. Printing itself is much easier to master than photography.
While I see an advantage to the 9 ink cartridge set for color and B/W
rendition, the price of OEM set $287.91 is nearly 1/2 total cost of
printer, add the other consumables of various papers, I see no price
advantage compared to sending out to Professional printer service and
several cost and repair disadvantages.
I will never buy another inkjet printer.. Epson especially, as printer
head isn't part of replacement cartridge. If printer head dries up
which happens often in very low 8% summer desert humidity conditions where I
live.
Have an Epson multi function printer I would be happy to give away, w/dried
out clogged printer head. Same with HP multi function with dried out cartridges, but a $60 set of new cartridges would remedy the dry head problem.
it freaks me out that you can just take the print paper out in the light and just print on it
For 800 plus bucks I'll keep going elsewhere :/
The $800 is only the beginning, the ink and paper costs are the real expense.
Lorne Malvo!
Hey can anyone recommend me a lens to buy? i want to use it for portraits, landscapes, and city architecture
+friður portraits you need 50 mm and above- go for the canon 85mm 1.4- fantastic lens and cheap- Landscape and architecture you need wide angle- I recommend 17-40- more expensive- but great little lens
Nazareth434 I have a 55-200mm and an old 50mm manuel lens from an old slr and my camera is a nikon. so could you give me some new suggestions? will a 17-40 still be good for architecture and landscape on a nikon?
+friður I'm sorry, I don't own Nikon- I don't think Nikon has a 17-40- If I were you, I'd look for a Nikon lens that is soemthign close to that range, fairly inexpensive, but not cheap- and find some reviews on it to see if it's good- I'm just not familiar with Nikon lenses. Your 55-200 is a pretty ok all around lense- you can do portraits with it (around 80mm or more) and it's ok for wildlife, although a little bit short range- I have the sigma 50-500 OS (which I think they make for Nikons too) and it's just a great all around lens- great fo wildlife, good for portraits (although I like my 85mm much better for portraits) You should be able to find a Nikon 85mm which should be pretty comparable to the canon one- another good range for landscape and architecture would be 24-105 or so- it's not as wide as the 17 of course- but still kind of wide- which is what you want for these two types of photography- I believe Nikon makes one that is close to that range, and it's a pretty good lens from what I heard-
Nazareth434 Would something like a 35mm be good for architecture, street, and some landscape photography? im trying to make my setup small with about 3-4 lens at most. so 85mm would be good for portraits, something small for the rest? should i link you to some photographs on what im trying to do?
+friður a 35 would be ok, but I think you will want a wider one- I have a 35 mmm lens on my full frame camera, and it's just not 'quite wide enough' I've found- and always left me wishing for something wider- it especially was not wide enough on my crop sensor camera (Canon 7d)- My 17-40 lens is just about right, although I find at times I even wish for a bit wider lens, but for most shots it's just about right at the 17 setting- You'll especially want a really wide angle lens for interior shots- one option you can do is go for a fully manual Rokinon lens (you can find them on amazon for about $300) Just keep in mind, that there will be distortion for architecture shots the wider you go- but photoshop is really good at straightening out the lines. Tamron sells a 17-35 mm lens for Nikon which gets pretty good reviews. Are your architecture shots going to be far off shots or up close? If up close, you need wide angle- if further away, you could get away with a 35mm, but 24 or 28 mm would be better- Landscape shots a wide angle is great for beign able to get close to a foreground object to really give good perspective to the shot and depth of field-- that is why I love my 17-40 for landscape shots
for me cheapo $60 epson t13 produce okay quality for me..
Actually, due to physics. Every normal glass will filter out UV-Rays ;)
There were a few misconceptions and statements that just weren't true in this video. The biggest one is about the prints fading. Epson actually put a protective element in the ink that makes the prints last for a crazy long time. I think it was like 100 or 200 years. This review felt kind of bias to towards the print service that it seemed like you were trying to sell. Honestly that kind of took away from my long standing belief in this channel and it's product ratings.
+Aaron Lucas I don't get any commission from print services. However, I've had many prints fade in the sun, and I'm not going to take a manufacturer's word for something over my own experiences.
God jul :)