Drinker's Chasers - Elon Nukes Bob Iger From Orbit
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- This is a bit outside what we normally cover, but it was too funny not to talk about. During a recent interview, Elon Musk made his thoughts clear about advertisers, specifically Disney, threatening to pull their support for Twitter if it doesn't bend to their will. Turns out, threatening the world's richest man isn't a great move.
I LOVE when he asks “so people will boycott Disney” and he says “they already are.” 🙌
I cancelled my D+ last night and got Twitter blue. Saved me $51 total :)
Disney openly admitted in the SEC meeting they value pushing their agenda over profit. Now they’ve just killed one their most effective forms of marketing. They really are trying to go bankrupt.
Yeah the park attendance says other wise. Great take there
"Disney's attendance has dropped substantially,” with some attendees reporting impacts at Disneyland and other parks, with Disney World appearing more like a “ghost town” than a thriving tourist destination.
@@jbarlak park attendance is in the toilet just like the stock! That investor disclosure says they’re fucked.
I can't believe you guys didn't react to the best part, where Elon says:
What I see all over the place is people who care about looking good while doing evil.
That was the best part of the whole thing.
That's America. The biggest perverts are in government but make laws that censor sex
Yeah, that part got me pumped up. Finally, someone in power with balls of steel and no tolerance for the horrible hypocrites in media who’s willing to call them out live on television.
Pretty sure they did it later in the vod
You do realise that Elon is a Russia and China shill. He is the epitome of doing evil while trying to look good.
You don’t save the planet while building 3 ton high performance fire bombs.
It's sad though it took the richest man on the planet to have the nerve to tell them off in person.
We've fired our biggest gun, what now?
For me the most profound line from Musk was: "What I care about is the reality of goodness, not the perception of it. And what I see all over the place is people that care about looking good while doing evil."
Coming from a man who pretends to care about the environment whilst flippantly flying around the country in his private jet, belching out carbon emissions? Yeah, that's rich. About as rich as he is. Or was, lol.
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis Cuck harder for the Globalist Fascists, beta-boy.
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis I'm wondering how would you solve this conundrum.
@@JohnGardnerAlhadis Coming from someone who probably does way less for the Environment than he does (aka a nobody writing a self righteous comment). That's what's really rich.
@@Sekir80 Not trusting billionaires who make shaky promises and keep missing deadline after deadline would be a start...
I love that we literally saw an NPC have a 404 error and a system crash.
The funniest thing is that host was just grilling Bob Iger before Elon came out. He was asking Iger hard questions and completely throwing Iger off his game. Then Elon comes out and leaves him speechless.
It's gonna be really funny in a few years. 'Cuz his "game" is the verbal ballet of corporate non-statements... and once people start using AIs to summarize what he's *ACTUALLY* saying in brief as he's saying it?
The subtitles are going to make such a mockery of his only skill, I might actually start to feel sorry for his ilk.
@@ephraimwinslowI wouldn’t feel sorry for a guy with zero discernible talent who has billions of dollars anyway.
@@ephraimwinslowAI IS his game. X is not his only tool in his toolbox. If you think it is, you don’t know Musk. All those people using AI will be paying him to use it. For the most part, it’s his baby and he will capitalize on it. Just watch. Want to invest in something? Invest in AI.
@@ephraimwinslow most people with an iq over 80, know musk is full of shit... its just he has a loyal army of investors who have their savings tied up in musks every move, so they are beholden to the king of dorks or face poverty.
Andrew Ross Sorkin is actually a really solid interviewer. I think he was just a little startled by how explicit Elon was and didn’t know how to respond
The most telling part of this clip was the dumbfounded shock from the audience of media goons, who couldn't even wrap their mind around defying corporate orders.
They mostly can't understand how Musk can say something so stupid, and continue to drive his company into ground, because we may not have a high opinion of most leaders, but most of them at least clear the bar of appearing to have an understanding of the business they supposedly run.
@@paweld IMO Elon knows and even knew how powerful it is to controll X/Twitter! Because it is controlling the information "game" by owning the narrative in that way!
I think he is fully aware of that power! and the fact that he has FU money is also key now! "tell it to earth"!
@paweld cope and seethe hahaha your “high opinion of most leaders” is exactly the kind of “looking good while doing evil” BS that Elon was talking about in this same interview
@@paweld Richest man in the world. Worth $200 billion. But sure, you, an internet nobody, knows better than him.
@@paweld These are media people-- many of them "journalists". And they were gobsmacked at the idea that someone might willingly offend the powerful. It was pathetic.
As awesome as it was hearing Elon tell the woke CEOs what to do, he later goes on to drop other bombs like saying people have already started to boycott Disney and that he's tired of companies acting virtuous but doing evil shit behind the scenes.
You should really read up on what Musks companies are doing :D I wonder if you will still think this awesome. Its kinda crazy this fake image of the" people`s champion" he has built up for himself just based on lies and media... The same thing people applaud him for "speaking against' :D
A bit hypocritical of Elon, IMO. Since he tries to frame all his crazy, evil shit as good and virtuous.
Not saying he's wrong. Just a hypocrite.
@@AzureKnight2trans-humanism is indeed evil.
@@AzureKnight2 does he? I really don't get the impression he frames himself as a perfect virtuous person. He often frames himself as one of the smartest people... But he's not wrong. He's hella smart.
@@Whitesquall123 I'm not saying he's portraying himself as perfect, but he definitely tries to portray himself as virtuous and a force for good. And I used to think he was really smart too, but it's a facade he's gotten really good at selling. That's his one really good skill, selling the facade he's brilliant and a force for good. When he's really neither. Dude is really weird with a lot of problems, and he makes too many dumb decisions and crazy beliefs to ever call "hella smart."
That final point is actually pretty significant. We used to pay for news. Everybody bought newspapers. Journalists could do actual journalism and the company could profit. Now we all go online and get news for free, so they have to get their money from the advertisers, and that makes them mouthpieces for the advertisers. It was a sad but inevitable consequence of the digital age.
True, but it wasn't perfect before either, sensationalism sells afterall. In a perfect world they would all be non-profit organizations, but alas it isn't one.
Agree, but while people bought papers (including me 30 years ago) they were full of ads back then, with the Sunday paper full of inserts. But at least there was some balance.
Show me a news program today that isn’t bought and paid for by Pfizer and other pharma.
"We used to pay for news. Everybody bought newspapers." Well, money derived from circ was never never a very high percentage of gross revenue. When I worked for a major daily 20 years ago, subscriptions and single purchases never amounted to more than 5% of our revenue. The rest was advertising, a little over half of which was classified. That said, what we could actually charge for advertising WAS dependent on our readership numbers, which was dependent on subscriptions.
@@richardmalcolm1457 That is interesting, I appreciate the insight. I had no idea the percentage was that low. I would still posit, however, that having paying customers added a degree of accountability that is absent in modern media. I would also posit that the advertisers were beholden to the newspapers, while it is now the other way around.
@@wavion2 The exact balance of revenue sources varied from paper to paper, but I am not aware of any major daily that pulled much more than that from circulation. Print advertising was what really paid the bills for everyone. But that said, there is something to what you say about who was beholden to who: in virtually every market, the major daily had somewhat of a monopoly on advertising, especially in certain markets (especially help wanted advertising!). It really was not a healthy situation, but at least serious journalism was still being practiced with some frequency on our newsroom...
To me Musk's best comment came later. He said, paraphrasing, 'People are concerned with LOOKING good, and yet DOING evil...and fuck them.'
To his credit, Elon manages to look evil while also doing evil - so he's got that going for him.
@@gunkulator1if that's the evil overlord of our times then maaan, we have entered paradise without knowing it.
@@tomaszwota1465 Well, at least you recognize your affinity to evil and admit it. That's step 1.
Indeed. ^_^ @@tomaszwota1465
@@gunkulator1 Yeah, he's "evil" just like a lot of other people are "racist" or "nazi".
People love calling other people evil to feel better about themselves. Do you feel better?
Disney cannot attract enough hate.
“So you think people will boycott Disney?”
“They already are”
Bob wasn’t ready 🤣🔥
He’s right. I know a lot of people IRL who do that. It’s not hard to NOT buy superfluous “entertainment”.
The funniest part for me wasn't the expletive, it when he said "you want to blackmail ME...with MONEY?", he was pretty much saying, "do you know how much I'm worth? Do you think monetary blackmail could ever work?" 😂
nobody was trying to blackmail him though?
@@arobin6695 threat of force to coerce someone ? Yes, blackmail.
@@forsakenquery what threat? what coercion? what were they asking him to do?
@@arobin6695 They were begging him to bend the knee. And he responded by saying, "I am the King."
look up the difference. Blackmail is correct. They are saying they have something on him - not just change your behavior but you have sinned against US!
It is so refreshing to see these virtue-signaling hypocrites get such a blatant, in-your-face push back to their agendas. This was long overdue! Elon isn't perfect but he cannot be ignored and he said what so many of us have been wanting to say to these goons for so long!
True. And people need to keep in mind: Elon Musk sent his son to a very costly private school, and the son was brainwashed by the school and social media into becoming a transvestite who hates his "capitalist" dad. People don't realize Elon's motivation. He bough Twitter, ready to lose tons of money, because as a father his children are the top priority.
Elon is no champion of the people. He is just like the rest of them. Its just he is the only person that could tell Iger to go f and not worry about it.
Elon is almost perfect. Just a medication away from being non-mental. I am certain he will be able to act sane within my life time.
I just wonder what kind of pathetic delusional incel would think Elon Musk was perfect
@@jaseman4075MC when someone is this nutty, eyes is the only qual we need. Are you legally blind by any chance?
There's more to the quote. When Musk calls out people for wanting to look like they're for good while doing evil I was speechless. Its such a pithy description of the way the world is.
Yes exactly. Cathartic really that these words are finally said out loud to these people.
you mean, just like he is doing?
@@TheNightman. In what way is that what he is doing?
So just like him ? He's done lots of nasty shit but I'm sure you fine with it because he posts memes on twitter.
@@TheNightman.What's that? Taken away the power of leftist government and the CIA to basically control Twitter with their narratives/propaganda, while silencing anyone not leaning far left. Elon has opened X up to everyone equally, rather than the right or even centrist's being silenced. How evil of Elon.
It's not blackmail. It's extortion. These people are mobsters. But also, the companies that advertise forget that they are also companies that can be "canceled" as well.
You have to ask what party these mobsters belong to and support...?
What? Is Musk entitled to their money? They can advertise wherever they want.
@@fajastata2Free market until they don't like where the market goes.
@@fajastata2 He never said he was entitled to it, he told them to fuck off...
@@newage44 you don’t have to ask that, we all know
Little Platoon nails it here. Knowing the context behind the event makes Elon’s comment 1000 times more potent.
I always wondered if the media would have been more openly critical about Disney's current state and movies, if they didn't reveive massive amounts of money thorugh contracts and/or advertisement deals.
It is basically what Elon said here: you want me to not criticise you or have a certain opinion, just because you pay me money? That is not how I really feel.
He was the first one that actually had the guts to say it was Blackmailing. Kudos to him.
He said the quiet part out loud. They were trying to blackmail him with money. That's how a lot of these studios and advertisers get their way. It's good he doesn't want to dance to their song.
@@hope-cat4894 and yet nobody cares about muskrat. He's a whining manbaby because money is flying away from twitter because of his autism
To use a very British expression, they all pee in the same pot.
At the end of the day they depend on the individual spending money with them. Or if you are a government forcing individuals to pay money to them.
Tons of these media outlets must have received enough money that it was worth more than their reputation.
Can you imagine being a movie reviewer and lying to your audience for a decade or more about all of disneys movies?
“The marvels is great!” You might not think it’s that bad, oh it’s just a movie all they did was waste 40-100 dollars to watch it. But if you make me waste my money and my time I will never listen to you again, and if no one visits your website then you get no ad money so you become even more dependent on the company that is bribing you to give their movie good reviews
Disney pulling add money from x has nothing to do with their shitty movies. X is run like a shitshow.
What Elon said afterwards was even more profound - essentially saying that Disney will lose more money than X because X users like the platform more than they like modern Disney.
The irony is the only ones outraged are all the left wing journalists and critics who are saying everyone should get off Twitter. The same clowns who said they were all getting off Twitter when Musk initially bought Twitter, then again when he fired everyone, then get again when he took away the blue checkmates. But hey 4th times the charm right?
Even the f*ckers that complain about X and Elon all damn day, still use X.
Nobody cares about muskrat or twitter, especially not more than Disney. Any day now we'll get the headlines of twitter going bankrupt because of muskrat
Real profound, especially when Bob Iger buys X in a couple years for pennies on the dollar.
@@brianhaugh152LOL 🤡🤡🤡
I love how he turns his head and speaks directly to the ones in the audience
Threatening Elon with money is like trying to drown a shark.
Elon only said what many have been thinking they’d say to these companies.
Big W for him!😂
Truth. I think Elon can be deceiving but I do like seeing him stand up to a lot of bullshit.
I hope he can keep exposing these crooks.
Coward companies!
Musk doesn't give a shit he says whatever gets his name in the media. You fanboys are fucking hilarious.
these companies need to get their heads out their asses, the woke far left mentality will destroy your business, people dont' want it, when left leaning countries are bring in more right ward leaders tells you much. Shout of Canada, we are against Liberal party our PM destroyed our country with hyper inflation, housing situation and etc. People are waking up and want vote conservative now, its beautiful sight, enough of this woke garbage.
Elon telling Bob Iger to F Himself is the funniest thing I’ve seen from a CEO in awhile. Lol
Elon’s a gangsta
Twitter/X has lost half its advertising revenue and $20 billion of the company's value is gone since his takeover. Maybe if he wasn't so busy telling potential clients to F off, he'd be doing better. As it stands now, Elon's bumbling at Twitter/X looks to be the most massive corporate failure in recent years.
go check out Dana White's response to Peloton's CEO
it's glorious to watch these guys pop off lately
Bob tried to flex and Elon told him to go back to the gym, because you ain't him. I'm 100% here for it!
It's not that Elon Musk has a lot of money, which he does; it's that he has a moral compass, which they don't. That's the big difference!! Millions of people around the world are being heartened by this and are finding the courage to step up and do their part, whether big or small, and say "enough, we're changing this"
Well said.
He owns his stuff ups. He's feral - untamed and dances to his own music. He's open where he can be without incurring the wrath of law courts and regulatory bodies.
It will be interesting to follow this event - just to see who comes out swinging.
I believe this is a huge turning point - Elon has made his stand - a huge army of keyboard warriors from all over the world are uniting - waiting for which alphabet corporation gonna have a tantrum about our human right to free speech.
Im not the biggest Elon Musk fan, but i loved his response. That's literally the reason why everything is so f'd up right now: advertisers and investors holding businesses hostage with their money, forcing them to tow the party line.
Elon can afforf to say that, but where the rubber meets the road is if anyone else is going to weather the financial hit to do whats right, which i doubt. Nothing is really going to change unless more businesses stand up to this
But like... that's literally the point of capitalism, no? Getting enough money to be able to, as you say, take usinesses hostage. If they don't want to be hostages, they should make more mmoney
Toe the party line, not tow. Look up "expressions people get wrong"
@@Grasslander I looked up "smug pedantic twat" while I was at it and I saw your picture
Remember, a lot of these advertisers have been yielding to small, vocal pressure groups that are threatening boycotts of their products if they advertise on Twitter/X or other platforms that disagree with their agendas!
@@TraditionalAnglicanThey pander to the tiniest vocal minority of crazies who aren’t even going to buy their products in the first place. That’s what has happened with Disney, they pander to the alphabet mafia who don’t have kids, instead of families which have been their bread and butter.
I’m just a guy sitting up in the cheap seats watching the show but it seems like the frequency and intensity of resistance to all of this madness is finally increasing. Iger is on the ropes, drowning in failure that cannot be ignored but this phenomenon seems to be happening within governments and in various major corporate sectors throughout the world.
A few years ago, opining on the growth of woke entertainment culture, I said something to the effect of "we're talking about this but we're the canaries in the coal mine who can interpret what's going on. We have a limited power to alter these companies' trajectories because we're a small segment of the market. But may they beware the day they piss off the normies, because that's when they sign their death warrants."
The past few years are an indication that the normies are finally starting to get pissed off.
Europe is starting to see it by electing anti-Islamization candidates. Argentina just elected a capitalist that wants ties with the US. Colombia is on the verge of throwing out their former-FARC leader-turn-president. Turns out, when you push people too far, sometimes they will push back.
@@r.l.royalljr.3905 Probably why the press are now on board with sticking the boot in now that things are surfacing so time to switch sides. Prior to that, they had to keep various people happy. The whole thing is a warped game.. Edit : Oh and I don't trust EM one bit! He talks a noble game but hmmm..not convinced!
It’s just because they realized they need people to die in a new war and nobody wants to anymore. It isn’t that the powers that be are conceding a victory, this is a different tactic now.
Adult males talking about ‘normies’ 😂😂😂😂
Disney is no more required to pay and advertise on Twitter than I am required to pay and see a Disney film.
The expression on that interviewers face was priceless. He looked like he peed himself. Hilarious stuff. Good for Mr. Musk.
he was shocked that musk would say something so stupid in front of his shareholders
@@arobin6695 no he was in shock because he spoke what every one thinks, out loud for ALL the world to see. Thats what they mean by "f&%k off money". Elon can tell the truth and not give a toss about the repercussions. The share holders can bitch and moan, even remove him from the board because "he tanked the stocks with his comments" and he DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT. It was the same moment that the bitch interviewer had when she tried to destroy Jordan Peterson on the TV, and had nowhere to go, because all that was left was the truth. the "oh snap" moment, if you will.
When the NY Times threatened google in the same manner, this is what they should have said. Instead, they not only complied with the NYT, but gave them premium exposure.
Google used the NYT as deflection. The NYT is a tool used by the Globalists and Google is one of the Globalists. You need to bone up on tactics of war. And yes, we are at war with them, the Globalists. Do you really think The NYT has the muscle to take on and beat the juggernaut industry of Google? Silly boy.
The same race that dominates the NYT's boardroom also holds key positions in Google. The race that in polls is the most leftist, the most anti-White, the most pro-immigration, the most pro-homosexuality, the most anti-gun ownership for the law-abiding, the most anti-bail, the most anti-free speech "for hate speech," the most hateful toward Evangelicals (White conservatives) so they're rated lower than even Muslims, and of course the most pro-Israel, and the most in favor of the neocon wars and sanctions against pro-Palestinian countries. The neocons being the same race, of course.
Elon, unfortunately, seems to absorbed every ounce of testosterone in Silicon Valley. Leaving nothing but meek cowards running every other tech giant.
Bullying companies would be much less effective if more leaders were based and told the verbal aggressors to shut up.
Google’s response should also be x’s response: “Okay New York Times will no longer appear in Google search results. Elon just just suspend all Disney corporate accounts and those of any actors/writers/directors employed by them as well.
People who worship money can't comprehend forsaking money for the sake of higher principles.
These "activist" and "watchdog" groups operate a whole lot like extortion rackets.
He also made a great comment about doing actual good instead of pretending to do good while actually doing evil. That was clearly aimed at the media, Disney, etc. I am all for it, but it's kind of amazing.
Even if he loses their advertising money, there's plenty of other non-insane companies that would love to take their place on X.
No there really isn't, that's why it's falling apart and heading towards bankruptcy
@@TheNightman. I'm not ruling out the possibility, but it is far more likely that any company worth their salt will see the opportunity of the soon to be vacant advertisement space of a platform that is used across the globe.
Pretty much. X kinda is the one with the power here. Disney can virtue signal, but the trade-off is that they lose one of the largest advertising platforms used by their key demo (kids, their parents and young adults). And even not from the direct advertising, they take a hit, the same way they have been lately, by obviously taking a political stance. If even Budweiser can be humbled, and Disney is in the position it's already in, this could very much not go well for them in both the short and long term.
You do know that Twitter/X has lost $20 billion of its value since Elon took over, right? Ad revenue is now half if what it was a year ago and 13% of the use base is gone. Elon is quite possibly the worse CEO of all time.
Any time a advertiser threatens pull advertising he should threaten to sell their advertising space to their direct competitors for half cost. Disney threatens to pull out, okay I’ll give the advertising to Sony or some other studio
My grandfather was the first I ever heard employ that phrase. 60 years later it hasn't lost a gram of ginger.
Elon at the store: I would like item.
Cashier: Ok, that will be x amount of dollars.
Elon: Fuck you! That's blackmail! I deserve to have this item!
Us, clapping: Wow! What a brave man! He has truly broken the programming!
What Elon said at the NYT is priceless.
Elon just said what we all want to say to the elites in Western nations.
+1
It's entertaining and cathartic. It's also kayfabe. Elon is the elite from an elite family that have been ideologues for the project of Technocracy going all the way back to his grandfather at least. This is WWE. Still entertaining, though
Elon is the definition of elite, what in the clown boy are you even thinking. His family gave him an apartheid emerald mine in Africa right
Another thing is that Twitter/X is still one of the largest social media platforms on the planet. People may bitch about Elon day and night, but they sure aren't leaving the platform. This means that its actually the companies pulling out who will get less exposure, as it would be drastically harder to do viral social media marketing without using Twitter/X.
Estimates vary but Twitter/X has lost around 13% of its user base since Elon's takeover. Ad revenue has been cut in half. Company value is down around $20 billion. It's the most stunning case of mismanagement in decades.
@@gunkulator1 Sources would be appreciated, especially for the last statement about mismanagement
@@Return_of_Godzillas_Revenge Google is your friend. Turns out there's a whole world of facts outside your news bubble. As to the last statement, that is my opinion but it is based on the facts.
@@Return_of_Godzillas_Revengesource: trust The Atlantic op-ed, bro
Musk took the interviewer back to the reality of school time
Elons F.U was a YUUUGE advertisement for FREEDOM.
It's not blackmail, it's extortion '' Nice Business you got there, be a shame if people didn't use it...''
Is that a monty Python reference?
@@CATDHD Not to my knowledge: it is a parody of the old Mafia offer
Are they forcing anyone to stop doing business with him? Can't they decide freely how to spend their money?
@@fajastata2 Including attempt extortion? Ok boomer
@@LordEriolTolkien So they attempted extortion, did they? So police is gonna charge them with it any minute now? It might be the right time to acknowledge you don't know what qualifies as extortion.
Advertisers think exposure sells. Advertisers are annoying. How much of the $44Billion will (X) lose if Elon stops Disney paying his company a couple $million and not be annoying. After I've seen Disney's false advertising once, the next time is supposed to be annoying.
What it loses from IGER it will likely make up from other advertisers that are EAGER to fill the spots.
SEE WHAT I DID THERE??!?
The top tier of advertisers account for around $5B in advertising annually to X, so actually Musk will probably lose the full $44B if they pull the plug.
However it will open up the eco system by creating opportunities for smaller players to get cheaper impressions, which will in turn bring back some of the big players, I think Musk kind of understands this, but bankruptcy is still very much and option.
Well Musk has already reduced Twitter’s value by about $20 billion so it’s going to take quite a long time for Disney to lose more than that to lost audience…
That host needed his fainting couch and smelling salts
Elon may be setting up for a federal lawsuit over it. Once Elon called what's happening as "blackmail", It hinted that some kind of legal action may happen.
Call it corporate media...... You guys are the new mainstream
I love that line from Disparu regarding the "ads next to a 'post' being the same as endorsement". If the ads shown with Critical Drinker were in "lock step" with CD's videos, I had 4Ocean and World Wildlife Fund ads before the video.
Oh shoot, their not? I just donated to the WWF because I thought they specifically endorsed the drinker's every word.
Just for today's panel:
An Englishman, an Irishman, and a Scot walk out of a bar... just kidding, they had to be carried.
Elon needs to start his own streaming services and themeparks 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Isn't it wild how speechless the dude and crowd get simply by witnessing somebody express they can't be bought??
Makes you wonder
I've noticed that a lot of people assume everyone else is thinking in terms of sex or money. I think they're projecting their own materialism onto everyone else.
@@vagrant1943 Yeah. They cannot fathom the world of moral concern.
@@vagrant1943 exactly!
Feels more like embarrassed silence tbh…Elon trying to be cool and failing. Twitter is fucked with falling ad revenue and he knows it but a rampant ego can’t admit any fault. Oh, my actions have consequences?!?! That’s blackmail!!! …..and the cretins lap it up.
"But, but, but... money." lol
Withdrawing the advertising is a statement of free speech. Free speech is not free of consequence.
Elon: Free speech for me but not for thee!
I'm not the biggest fan of Elon Musk but I absolutely love when he does stuff like this. It just leaves people in shock and they don't know how to react and that's the best comedy
We don't have ti agree 100% of the time to agree on certain things. Hehe.
Duuuude, I've been at work the last 3 days and completely missed my dream panel. Holy shit, what a banger of a lineup. You guys are all fucking amazing, my job not so much. Can't wait to listen to the whole show.
hope you could find a better job
I love when Disparu is on a panel. Gives me time to go make a tea while he talks.
Disparu is just a whiney, self-absorbed basement dweller in a gated community household. Nothing he says is ever worth hearing
Here's I saw it. Elon was looking to accomplish the following from his declaration:
1. He wants to know the size of the battlefield and who will rally to him.
2. He wants to see what immediate action his supporters will take.
3. He wants to see how the opposition responds.
4. He wants to target any high-profile people who stick their heads out. (He does have their tweets of the last 15 years, after all....)
Here's how I see it. Elon feels entitled to receive money from advertisers, regardless of his mismanagement of Twitter. He is incapable of getting it though, and this upsets him.
@@paweld Your comment requires elaboration in order to be taken seriously. What indicates any feelings of entitlement from Elon to make this statement anything other than a personal attack on him? In what way has he mismanaged Twitter, without elaboration you seem to just be stating your opinion as a fact.
@therotten6152 Nope, just some guy who is tired of Musk's bullshit.
@@SunwardRanger83 Sure. His feelings of entitlement are evidenced by his label "blackmail" when confronted with advertisers begging him to do something about rampant hate speech on his social media platform which community management he's crippled by firing crucial members of staff, while retweeting posts from well known anti-semites and conspiracy theorists, that has resulted ( in combination with other questionable decisions on his part ) in Twitter losing over half of its value in a short time, which I'd call gross mismanagement.
@@paweld Entitled implies only one side benefits. This involves 2 parties - X and Disney. One side gets revenue - the other side gets mass exposure.
Here's how I see it - one side moved the goal post - to manipulate free speech.
Elon's mismanagement of Twitter exposed CIA and WH for exactly the same thing Disney tried to do.
Do you get the picture now?
According to Musk, Twitter has lost around $30 billion of its value this year.
But yeah he really owned Bob Iger by saying he doesn’t want Disney’s non offered money 😂🤣
Truly a masterclass in how to run a business
The public has already abandoned disney.
And now Iger might be stepping down as CEO (again)
Boy these tigers really are made of friggin paper aren't they
Iger has a contract until 26, and said he will definitely step down then, but they are actively looking for a replacement.
I love how Musk actually listens to the questions and answers them directly. This is almost unique in public life. Dana White is the only other one who instantly springs to mind. So many just ignore questions, partially or totally and just use the break of the interviewer talking to say whatever they had scripted.
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Yeah he takes a 5-10 second pause and then answers, but it’s usually interesting or profound. The guy is on another frequency.
Helps to be a billionaire. You have that much money in the bank, you can afford to walk off into the sunset with a witty quip and a hot girl. Almost everyone else, gotta eat your words if you want to actually eat.
@@ChimpRiotçv my
@@chethammer $1, $100,000, $10m, $1b or even $1t net worth wont be affected by your words. Your income? Yea, but not your bank. Even small time CEOs can say what they want but they dont because they are sheep to their billionaire overlords. Though Im willing to bet Musks personal savings has something like $10b just chilling in it.
Man, I wish youtube had the balls to say to advertiser's. All the eggshells for nothing.
I sincerely hope Elon offers massively discounted ad time to all direct competitors.
I've been boycotting Disney for years now. I'm glad the world is catching up
Most disappointing thing about the Disney boycotts for me, couldn't join because I already was.
I only joined around 2015, but I’ve done it since then.
Since 2011 never paid a cent to them.
This is basically the real world version of Tony Stark telling Congress to f**k off. 😂
Or Nick Fury telling the World Security Council that he's ignoring their "stupid-a** decision." 😁
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Nobody puts Elon Musk under their Control...period. ⚠️
This is gonna down well with the Stock Holders !! After all they've lost 200 billion of there value ... And look like there gonna have a boardroom scuffle !!
It’s gonna be wild to watch Disney crumble, banks become non existent, bud light and svedka becoming a hilarious joke. What a time to be alive
tell me you put your life savings in crypto without saying it.
@@paladroyou smoke crack or something?
@@paladroCan you touch the moon at night? Cuz the amount of 'reach' you can muster out of nothing is nothing less than magic
@@rishab0Bthis dudes been cucking for Disney under mad comments just spouting nonsense lol
I still don't like the guy, but yeah that was cathartic.
Can't trust him.
I saw Drinker... so that's an automatic click. Then I saw Bob Iger and Elon so I would watch it anyway.
I just spent the first 5min of the video, for reasons I do not fully understand, laughing out loud over the "Nukes Bob Iger from Orbit" in the title. I guess the title, combined with me having watched the entire Elon interview at the NY Times summit, was just laughter gold!
I love the crew of Disparu, Little Platoon, Drinker and Mauler. And enjoyed Despot as well.
Such intelligent and funny discussion. Every time.
They’re awesome
I think extortion is a better word than blackmail for what Disney and others are trying to do to X.
It's refreshing to see someone saying what a lot of us think to the faces of these CEO's.
"Elon has a right to advertisers" 😂
Yeah, I'm positive that pissing advertisers off is a fantastic business model. 👏 Running a high-traffic website costs money, though, and those $8/month subscriptions aren't gonna cover shit, so... masterful gambit, sir! 👏
@nrsrymj no one said that
@@RaifSeverence saying advertisers pulling out is blackmail or extortion is saying that 😂
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They are threatening to yank dollars because Elon made a tweet which was taken out of context and which they don't agree with. These people want to obtain his silence (inability to use his first amendment rights of free speech) in exchange for them removing the threat of yanking advertising dollars. Seems to fit the definition below pretty well.
ex·tor·tion
/ikˈstôrSH(ə)n,ekˈstôrSH(ə)n/
noun
the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
"he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion"
Elon is showing how the "woke mob" needs to be dealt with. Just stand up and refuse to bow down!!
...while losing billions of dollars in the process. That'll show 'em!
@@gunkulator1 Elon is a part of the woke mob himself, he litterly turned his little son into a girl and wanted to put chips in his children's heads
@@gunkulator1 this mindset is the reason why the fake virtue signaling woke dishonest propaganda machine is still alive. congratz dude
@@gunkulator1some things are worth the lost money. Not that you would understand.
@@tomaszwota1465 If it was only his money at stake, sure, let the fool and his money be parted asap. It'll be fun to watch. But Musk has hundreds of employees who are going to be out of a job if he continues to mismanage Twitter/X the way he has. But maybe you too are also a billionaire so you wouldn't understand.
Excellent show, and excellent guests. I have to say, Critical's shows and guests are always higher caliber, higher intelligence and better discussions way, than Nerdrotics round table 4 hour shows. I don't dislike Nerdrotic, but his get together s just are MISSING something that I hear with Critical's guests on shows like this. Its much more highbrow, polite, LESS CURSING and to the point with less bawdy jokes. This is why I like Critical Drinker and his guess more than others.
I am not a big fan of Elon to be honest
But i must say, i love that he keeps throwing wrenches into systems people are trying desperately to keep squeaky clean
I used to be a big fan when SpaceX was starting out, but he’s gone a bit bonkers in the last 5 years. I think he just got caught up in the social madness engulfing the world.
@@aldunlop4622Yea, i was the same. Its a bummer, but then again, this just proves that everyone who is rich is also a clown. Some just dont make it obvious instantly
@@aldunlop4622That's nonsense.
@@nemtudom5074Oh please be quiet. The man impacts the world and you're calling him a clown? What a buffoon you are.
@@jeromemaida4933 if you’re going to have an opinion, have one. Just saying “that’s nonsense” is a complete nothing opinion.
10:04 I really agree with the Little Platoon here. It's not that the mainstream media is lagging behind the times. It's that all their shilling for the paychecks is now old news. People are growing wise to the shit that they are being spoon fed.
Diablo 4 has a whole screen full of 9/10 and 10/10 reviews in the commercial. Do I beleive any one of them? Nope. Ratings from big name companies mean jack any more. Blizzard is a shell of it's former self, and the people running it into the ground deserve this failure. I only feel bad for the hard working lower ranks who will be the first to lose their jobs when budget cuts have to be made.
Same can be said about many companies these days. Disney*cough cough
I used to love Blizzard games, it's tragic what a crap company they've become. Did not buy Diablo 4 and I have no plans to.
It’s the same with movie reviews like RT etc. Most of the positive comments are absolutely ludicrous. I started watching an absolutely terrible movie on Prime today, I mean it was baaaaaad. Like if any of the actors ever got a job again I’d be incredulous. Looked at the reviews- 63% on RT and all the positive reviews were over the top, “best movie ever”, “incredible acting”, etc. It was beyond obvious they were made in bot farms.
Musk plays a very dangerous game with CEO's who have very fragile egos- no one tells them no, ever.
This is a game Elon is going to win......watch and see!!!
Well, Musk must know, because he is one of them.
If you’re ego is so sensitive you can’t be told no you’re a crap ceo because markets don’t care about you markets care about profit and success if an idea is crap it should be voiced to avoid losing money especially if they are being paid millions
@@abrahamnarvaez1730 In my limited experience at 63, insurance /investments for 4 decades, and ministry for 2 decades, you would be surprised at the lack of intelligence in really successful CEO, many are like the old KFC commercials: they do one thing really well. But that's not the problem, it's the power of these inve$tments companies, when a trillion dollar investment company tells a hundred million dollar company to do everything we tell you or lose all access to loans, contracts, insider info, and ultimately your job, and the "small" company leadership says "yes, Sir", that is a head trip. It creates egos that are very similar to communist dictators, closed off and with a god complex. Tell them no and see what happens.
He did and Disney, Paramount and Netflix are getting mass subscription cancellations.
Dude is weird, he talks about how scary AI could be yet wants to connect digital augmentations to your brain directly to where it will be born…. Wtf?
The idea being that if you make AI separate from humans, it will operate separate from humans.
But if you make AI and humans one entity, you plug human morality directly into the machine.
The interviewer's programming glitch is my favorite part and I think the most genuine insight into how they just can't imagine a world where the advertisers don't control everything. I hope Elon switches X to subscription only. $5/mo. for basic X would generate billions and completely free the company from being beholden to anyone else.
Like a robot getting hit by a paradox question.
The craziest part about it is that Twitter wouldn't be facing the same allegations of Antisemitism if Musk hadn't bought it. The same antisemitism would be going on with twitter not facing any of these problems bc it's the woke people saying it for the most part.
Elon is actively liking anti-Semitic posts. That's why he's drawing so much criticism and deservedly so. No other CEO would be so stupid to behave this way.
@@gunkulator1that's the double edge of free speech. But the double standards of the Left. When a Palestine supporter openly says "from the river to the ocean" they are openly supporting the genocide of all Israeli jews. No one bats an eyelid.
@@gunkulator1 Who the F are you and what are you smoking? Israel recently rolled out the red carpet for Musk.
@@gunkulator1 "oy vey any criticism of Israel is anti-semitism! pls gib shekels!"
@angmori172 You're already showing your projection with that comment. Besides, retweeting a conspiracy theory about world Jewry isn't criticizing Israel, it's agreeing to propaganda that's been spread for over a hundred years.
To be fair, Elon doesn't have the FU money. His money is mostly in Tesla, he had to borrow money from investors for X. If X shuts down, he'll have to sell more share's, the board of directors/shareholders might have to ask Elon to step down from Telsa. It a tricky situation. Despite all this, he's still sticking it to the man
Tax write-offs.
A very astute observation.
@@just_another_watch_nerd6604💯💯
His dad is rich
It's not even about that, it's about saying:" i am not going to sell myself for money, i have my pride" . Btw people won't stop using X, not for some years, the advertisers must comply, not X. Not even a fan of Elon Musk, but i respect the power play
The Little Platoon is the best addition to the guest catalogue that I can remember. Huge fan.
That "Hey Bob!" really made my day 😄
Very well articulated! I resonate and agree with everything you said! Bless you ppl for defending critical thought and freedom of speech!
It’s incredibly how delusional individuals and corporations can be once one decides to conduct actions, power or influence within their bobbles
The best part is the beta male little hat with the crossed legs from the NYT not knowing how to react, as if he expected Elon to beg for Disney/Vanguard/Blackrock money.
When you have "eff you" money, you can say "eff you."
I'm sure this be a comfort to his laid off employees after Elon is done running Twitter/X into the ground.
@@gunkulator1 Just because you're a whore doesn't mean Elon is wrong.
Disney thinks it is good, but it is the bad guy.
Nah, they know, believe me. They know.
There is no debate that it was a big faux pax by Elon. Asking someone to spend their own money on your platform otherwise you will name and shame them is more blackmail than the them backing out due to their own priorities (whether their priorities are right or wrong is irrelevant) . Free speech includes ability to spend your own money as you want.
"Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty" - Joseph Goebbels. If Elon and co. don't want to be called Nazis, maybe they should stop taking advice from actual Nazis.
Terrific meme.
Terrible business strategy.
So a classic Elon as usual.
I mean that 200B man has obviously no idea about a proper business plan.
He has more money than you will likely see if you gathered every single dollar you’ll EVER make at once and piled it in your backyard.
I think he knows more about money than you do pal.
The capitalist view, though, is that these companies are quite within their rights to take their money wherever they want. It is Elon's job to attract advertising revenue, not the advertiser's responsibility to advertise with him.
They are within their rights. And he’s allowed to think they’re doing it for reasons outside of what is actually best for their businesses
There’s a difference between AN advertiser pulling ads because it’s not a good fit.
It’s another thing for advertisers to collude together to pull ads to tank a company, all while keeping ads on other platforms that sexualize children.
That’s not capitalism. That’s free market. Which we have never had. The fed manipulates currency and rates constantly. Maybe read a book.
@@Poopoocachoo Musk is far too much of a narcissist to ever admit he's made a mistake. I can't be wrong so it must be a massive conspiracy against me! Yes, that's it!
Bottom line: that ancient proverb rings true: "Professing themselves wise, they became fools."
Exactly 👍
To the topic of ads appearing next to each other. Here in Berlin we have a rotating ad colum, one ad is for an Undertaker "piety in the last days", and the next is "Dildoking - having a fun weekend". 😂 True story.
Yes, 100% agree about your comment on mainstream media.
So Disney stopped advertising on Twitter... Yeah, Musk loses money. But Disney loses visibility, i.e. also money, and can they really afford it these days?
i dont like Disney either, but they were there looooong before Elon or twitter were born. Who needs whom here?
@@sigurdkaputnik7022 "Before Elon was born" Disney and current Disney are two different things. You can tell just by looking on list of 2023 releases and checking how many of them were profitable.
Also I don't know how the things are in Americas or Western Europe, but here in Eastern and further to the east "Wish" - like, latest, anniversariest Disney animation - is literally not heared of. I have a number of friends from different regions, working different jobs and having quite different networks, and all of them said "wait, what animation? First time I hear about it."
And i repeat - that's Disney's anniversary animation. It's supposed to be a big thing. But looks like it was not advertised at all here. And from reviews it looks like it was not much advertised in western countries either (correct me if i'm wrong)
Yeah, Disney is a big thing. But it starts looking as if it's not enought now.
@@sigurdkaputnik7022 That's like saying Rome doesn't need the USA, because the USA is an upstart, and Rome once ruled.
I don't see how you call it blackmail. It's no different than me not buying tickets to the Marvels. Elon is not entitled to their money just like Disney is not entitled to mine.
Im such a fan on this group of people. Such a solid line up. Solid group of British lads
I don't buy crap from advertising I see, I buy from people I trust, respect or whos word carries weight. Like the Critical Doggo Plushie!
Sure you do
@@fidelio9301 yup, Critical Doggo has best takes on cinema and politics. Charisma 10/10
@@karagongro-malog 😂
of course you do. Advertising works subliminal. If you're not sure what to buy, you buy that stuff, where you've heard the name before.
@@sigurdkaputnik7022
I don't fall for advertising, followed up by advertising purchase.
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Where you've heard the name before....
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There is no "good guy" to root for in this slap fight. Elon and Bob and like "Alien vs Predator." No matter who wins, we lose.
"Go ffff yourselves ... hi Bob" is the definition of ...
*Christmas coming early!*
Little Platoon gives a comprehensive and eloquent take down of the the establishment, and why Elon is so important - glad I watched this!
Bobbo wants to be president one day. You can see everything you want to know about what his policies would be and that should terrify you.
@@TheDreamtimezzzDude, he’s talking about Bob Iger. Chill out.
Yeah, Iger has mentioned having political aspirations. I've come to the conclusion that, with occasional exceptions, "president" is the aspiration of people with personality disorders and no shame.
@@sadomars2446oh. You are correct. I misread it.
Disney:" We'll pull the advert money if you don't do what we say?"
Elon"........and?"
The refrain needs to be "I am a customer not a consumer. I won't buy what I don't want and I won't sell my attention against my own interest."
ESG .. "You Vill Komply" aka blackmail. - right on target !