What Are The Eastern Rite Catholic Churches? | The Catholic Talk Show
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- In this episode of The Catholic Talk Show, the guys are joined by Fr. Elias Rafaj to discuss The Eastern Rite Catholic Churches and what are the similarities and differences with the Latin Catholic Rite.
Episode 83:
In this episode, we will discuss:
• What are the 23 Eastern Rite Churches?
• What are the major differences between East & West?
• Do Eastern Catholics use the Filioque?
• Why do we make the Sign of The Cross different?
• Can Roman Catholics receive Eucharist in the Eastern Churches?
• Who were the 5 Ancient Patriarchs?
• Why does the East use leavened bread?
• and much more
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This puts a smile on my face as a convert from the Armenian Orthodox Church. Glad to see the love and respect from the East to the West. Pray for the unity between the two. 🙏🏻
Amen. God bless you, brother.
Amen brother.
❤❤❤
Amen
I just went to my first Byzantine Catholic service a month ago. I'm Catholic. This service reached all my senses. I will be attending again once the ban is lifted.
What ban?
What ban? Only the Traditional Latin Mass has been restricted
I think the ban he was talking about was the churches closing from "covid restrictions", although the government never had the authority to close them in the first place.
Good morning Christ pray for you 🙏✝️❤️🕊️
That comment is 3 years old now. How has your experience been with the Byzantine east been these last three years?
I am a Maronite Catholic. We frequently go to mass at the local Latin rite churches. We also to the sign of the cross the same as the Latin and we have, or had, a cardinal in Rome who was our patriarch. I think a talk for each rite would be good as they are all so different yet the same.
Thank you. I learned from a Coptic Orthodox person that he makes the sign of the cross the same way we do in the Latin Rite as well.
Very interesting, wish there was an extensive video and book on each rite.
I am latin rite, But I love going once week to my local byzantine mass.
I’m syro malabar
This was OUTSTANDING. I’m Eastern Orthodox and the entire program was 100% accurate. Very enjoyable and spiritually edifying.
Greetings from the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church. Proud of Our Church and Universal Church. Greetings to other Catholic Brothers
Greetings from the Philippines
We have Syro- Malabar and Syro-Malankara rites in India. Having attended a Syro-Malabar rite, there are a number of things I noticed different. Duration of the Holy Qurbana( Holy Sacrifice), the priest facing the altar, presence of a huge cross, shoes outside the church, all women and girls veiled, the altar server assisting the congregation in saying the responses, most of the responses sung, mention of St. Thomas repeatedly and so on.
I have attended several of these masses in Australia. The mass is certainly rich and beautiful. God bless
I’m syro malabar myself Nd I’m a lil lazy Catholic 😂. These are only in Malayalam and I need English mass so I watch Latin mass.
Anthony Chidiac u understand Malayalam?
The huge cross is the Mar Sleeva. It represents the resurrected Jesus. Sleeva itself means the risen Jesus. We mainly employ the Divine Liturgy of Ss Addai and Mari. But starting tomorrow, 1st Sunday of Annunciation season, till Palm Sunday - we are to employ the Anaphora of Mar Theodore. Basically we are the Indian diocese of the Church of the East that came in communion with the Holy See of Rome. So everything in our liturgical tradition comes from the Church of the East. However we are heavily latinized. So many of the laity don't have a clue about themselves or their heritage. Outside the liturgy (Qurbana), most laity pray Latin devotions such as the rosary, divine mercy chaplet, angelus, stations of the cross, and various novenas etc. In fact many of the Syro missionary priests that left Kerala historically had to put on a Latin identity and serve as Latin priests. An all India jurisdiction was given to us only recently in 2017 through the Eparchy of Shamshabad.
A priest facing the people instead of the altar is an innovation only practiced by the Latin Church and only since 1970 and the new Roman rite, or Novus Ordo. It is just one of many Protestant practices that was adopted in the new Latin liturgy for good or ill, whatever side you might come down on weather that is a good thing.
Exceedingly interesting and informative .... I am a "fallen" Roman Catholic but am making a concerted effort to make it back into the fold. Your thoughts and prayers would be a blessing. Thanks EWTN for being here to support me in my journey....
i will pray for you. God loves you and wants you back. talk to him..he wants to hear about your struggles...no matter how big they are..his grace is infinitely greater.keep up a regular structure of prayer and go to the sacraments.pray to our mother..she understands and will hold you in her arms and never let you go. God bless
Thanks, Anthony .... it has been a struggle spiritually and personally. RC all my life, no reason to change. Moved back home to West Virginia 10 yeas ago tp "find myself" ... while I am a fallen Catholic, I have never ever been a fallen Christian. Tried a few other denominations, none were for me. My new wife is Church of Christ, she has helped to strengthen my Christianity, and tells me to follow my heart..... so, the Roman Catholic Church is stuck with me.
Dr Brant Pitre's on Catholic Productions CZcams channel is worth a follow for a deeper explanation of roots the Catholic faith and the NT. czcams.com/video/8KXpAiLIOzQ/video.html
Could you please air an episode on the different rites within the Western Church, e.g. Ambrosian, Bragan, Carmelite, Celtic, Hispanic/Mozarabic, etc?
Since Vatican II for all practical purposes none of these rites (including the Dominican rite) exist except as a sort of very occasional novel exhibit. Very sad.
There is the byzantine rite of the italo albanian catholic church. Souther parts of italy i believe
Went to my first Eastern Catholic service today, a Melkite service. All Arabic, but they had English translation on a screen. Loved it. I still smell the incense.
I love incense but there was one time where my fellow altar boy poured like a ton of incense in the censer and oh boy. I felt like i was smoked fish haha
WoW! Thank you for this! I'm a Syro- Malabar Catholic. This was helpful
Abhishek Joseph me too
You both are from India!
This classifies that you are malayali.
🇸🇦♥️🇮🇳 All indians are my brothers and sisters... Greetings from Saudi Arabia
Me tooo
I was blessed to grow up in a bi-ritual home. My grandmother, a native of Slovakia, lived with us & was a Byzantine Catholic.
I love the byzintine rite. Wish there was one close to me
If your grandpa was also Byzantine, and they are your dads parents, according to Church law you are also part of the Byzantine Catholic Church. Because in Church law your Church follows your father, even if you and your father received all your Sacraments through the Latin Church. Unless your father or you officially petitioned to change your Church.
They were my maternal grandparents. My grandfather was from Macedonia & had been Orthodox. He became Byzantine when he married my grandmother. I don't recall him going to church very often. He died very young due to complications from being hit by a car. My grandmother lived to be 94. My uncle, Mom's brother, also lived with us until he married my aunt. He remained very active in the Byzantine rite all of his life.
@@sylviaamendolea2904 Shlomo (Peace in Aramaic). Actually under Church law your family is Macedonian Catholic. When someone converts they become a member of the corresponding Catholic Church. There are no Macedonian Catholic Parishes here in the U.S. but your family would still be members of that Church.
Very cool video! As a Syro malabar Catholic, thoroughly enjoyed the discussion and even got new information about the other Eastern churches. In India we have the Syro Malabar, Syro Malankara and Latin rite so was quite familiar with those. Interesting content, keep it coming fathers. God bless you all 🙂
Keralites everywhere...
Malayalee anno😅
Syro Malabar indisputably is a latinised version of chaldean rite. It was not separated from any orthodox churches, but simply was formed during Portuguese invasion in india.
Syro Malabar church has no difference with a latin church.You find statues of holy figures unlike other eastern churches use only icons.Also unlike it's chaldean counterpart in east there is no liturgy that uses syriac language in this church today.Wierd to say it follows strict celibacy for priests, which is not found in other eastern catholic churches like maronite, Greek, Ukrainian etc.
Hello from Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church! Love your show and thank you for this episode, we really need to know more about the diversity of Catholic Church, that's very interesting. Different but one!
Who else is Byzantine??☦️ I come from the Slavonic part of Byzantine
I'm from the Melkite Greek Catholic Church!
I'm from the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church !!!
Ruthenian Greek Catholic! Fr. Elias is our pastor!
Ruthenian! Just outside of Chicago.
Ruthenian
I had a friend asking me to explain to her the "Eastern Churches" because although I am a Roman Catholic I introduced her to the Maronite Catholic Church. This video will be a great help! Thanks!
That was a great episode. I am from syro malabar catholic church.Hope all doing well and God bless this show with lots of more great episodes and reach out to so many hidden souls,fill their hearts with holyspirit.you guys are always in my prayers and pray for me too.God bless.
For anyone in the GTA. Check out The Protection of the Mother of God in Oshawa. We're a very small parish, but warm and welcoming. Dependable Catholic teaching with reverent worship--lots of singing and incense. Full on english.
My favourite one was San Andreas, i never got a hold of GTA V, but VI is coming out soon.
@GEORGE A *He :). I'll try and update the chat when we're back to normal litturgical activites.
Fr. Elias is very patient with his “students.” I would have liked that he explain the history of the Eastern Rite to the audience. The Divine Liturgy at the Ukrainian Catholic parish we have is beautiful.
Fr. Elias definitely needs to come back!
Syro-Malabar from India..Cool episode..
Praying for unification of churches..!
I am a Byzantine Catholic convert from Romanian Orthodoxy. I love this video 🇷🇴💛🇻🇦
Sadly your lost
Cool. Welcome home brother. 🤗
Welcome home
Welcome home brother to the church militant. Now buckle up and man the ramparts. :). You’re going to be looked down, challeneged, tempted and basically called names as a catholic (satan hates us). But its cool. We stand on the rock and not even the gates of hell would prevail.
Your profile pic is so funny!
Father Elias has beautiful hair.
Oh man I have to tell him this.
That’s awesome I like seeing other rites in the church like this
Viva diversity!!
Comparing the Eastern Catholic and the Western Orthodox Churches would be interesting.
As dar as I know, there are no Western Orthodox Churches. Those bishops, archimandrits anda priests who are responsible of churches in the West, depend upon their respective Oriental Patriarch who live in Istambul (Constantinople), Lebanon, Syria, Moscow, etc.).
*I mean "far", not "dar".
@@gonzalofernandez8734 I was about to say the same thing. The only thing I could think of is the OCA (Orthodox Church of America). It is mostly made up of former Byzantine Catholics who left communion with Rome in the 1920's when Rome and American Bishops stripped the Eastern Catholic Churches of some of their traditions and guarantees given to them several hundred years earlier at the reunification. Sometimes the Orthodox, I think not exactly wrong, point to how unity with Rome can sometimes equal Rome breaking its word when it's convenient to Rome.
Western Rite Orthodox Churches do exist. Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of North America and the ROCOR have their own specific Western Rite Orthodox parishes. There are also independent, autocephelas Western Orthodox Churches, like the Orthodox Church of the Guals and the Celtic Orthodox Churches. I have yet to see these rites in the modern Catholic Church, even in the Traditionalist Catholic circles.
@@gonzalofernandez8734 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Rite_Orthodoxy
Melkite Eparchy in the US is amazing. Priests and Bishop do great work.
I totally agree! I don't want to trash Latin Bishops here in the US but noone can deny that Eastern Bishops in the US are good and holy men while far too many Latin Bishops in the US act or at least give the impression (to be charitable) of being good CEO's of their diocese.
ryan sheel is like a catholic version of ron swanson
Oh yeah.
scheel*
I am Proud to be a Syro Malabar Catholic and to be a part of one of the oldest apostolic church. Our Church was established by St.Thomas the apostle and our community christians are called as Nasranies(Thomas Christians).We follow East Syriac liturgy, the liturgy of Mar Addai and Mar Maari ,both the disciples of St.Thomas. Our community joined the catholic church at 16th century and follow Catholic way of consecration but all other liturgy is East syriac. Other part of Nasranies(Thomas christians) who didn't join catholic church ,later joined Orthodox community and changed to West Syriac liturgy.
Highlight of the show was the hand sign show down between both priests 😁😉🙌🙏🙌
I love the wisdom in the two halves of Christendom. There is wisdom in defining things precisely as the west does. However, the east reminds us that these definitions are descriptions of mysteries we can never fully understand, that we shouldn't reduce the fullness of the mystery to a word formula.
Love the Eastern Catholics, though I'm Roman rite. I have attended a Ukrainian Catholic liturgy, and the church and its liturgy are beautiful.
This is the best! So interesting, as I pass a Coptic Catholic Church every day. It has a beautiful mosaic icon of our lady with the infant
Jesus that covers the full height of the building. I always say a Hail Mary driving by and I will be sure to attend a mass once I inquire
About tradition and time, so I’m prepared.✝️❤️🔥🙏
Today is there feast day! How funny! The Saints sent me here today! God bless you all! Sts. Cyril and Methodius, pray for us!
Wow great episode. Seriously one of my favorites. It had a lot of information and there was definitely a lot of respect shown to Father Elias. Great job gentlemen.
My fellow Catholics, Y’all gotta chill with the bobble heads. Its not like they venerate and worship the bobble heads. It’s just for fun. Chill.
Stick to icons yall
There's a Maronite Catholic Cathedral down the street from me near Cedars-Sinai Hospital in L.A. :)
check it out one day...Take time to absorb the richness and let me know what you think/
I hope the priest chants the Eucharistic consecration in Syriac (Aramaic): you would actually feel Jesus physically present and saying them. 🙏
Thank you for this one!!
Outstanding program!
awesome show, thanks
Great show! Great materials and interesting topics. There are many eastern byzantine rites and one of them traces back to the 1st century Christian's such at the Melkite Greek Catholic. Perhaps you guys can introduce the Melkites in the next show?
El Masi7 Kam - Hakan Kam! Christos Anesti! Alithos Anesti! Christ is Risen! Indeed, He is Risen! 🌟👑💒🙏
I heard somewhere that the meaning behind the leavened bread is supposed to represent the risen Christ.
Loved the show Thanks
Hello Padre Elias! Love you so much
Wow lots to take in here. Thanks for the discussion
I just found out this channel; it's incredible! You have very interesting topics. Congratulations on the channel.
I wish I could one day live a liturgy in an Eastern rite.
Father Elias... what a delightful surprise to find this little gem. So happy to have the opportunity to witness your sharing your vast treasury of knowledge and Eastern spirituality. Blessings and peace..
Thank you for talking about this!!! I'm maronite and I always listen to your talk show and it's nice to learn about all the eastern rites :)
Thanks for this episode! I go to a Melkite Church about once a month!
Beautiful!
I have been to the Byzantine Divine Liturgy in the Slavonic & really liked it. I liked the Spirituality & the people were very friendly.
Great! Thank you for the beautiful explanations on iconography and some of the unique parts of our Eastern brothers and sisters. God bless you all.
Very good video..
Excellent video. Even in my “older” years learning so much about our beautiful religion Catholicism religion.
Czech here! I love to hear that
Hi guys
Hey Ryan thank you for another great episode! Also, thanks for asking about how the unification thing works; I was not sure how that all worked
God bless you !!
That eastern Catholic encyclopedia was awesome. We all know it.
What a beautiful lesson about the 1 percent of the Catholic Church!
Eastern Orthodox brother here, and I really enjoyed this!
You guys are so funny and yet so respectful and informative/educational all at the same time. I love it.
Love the show. But just to offer a minor correction - it wasn’t Constantine who split up the empire into a tetrarchy, it was Diocletian. That’s why dioceses are called so nowadays.
A minor correction to you my friend. While you are right that Diocletian did start the tetrarchy, that has nothing to do with the word "Diocese". The words happen to share the first four letters but thats were the similarity ends. Diocletian is a proper name while Diocese is a Latin/ Greek word that literally means administrative jurisdiction, which is exactly what a Diocese is.
Father today is 4/15/2021. This is what you spoke about in your homily Sunday! We as Christians are one in Christ.
Ukrainian fans of your show out there 🖐Thank you for interesting talk!
What a beautiful episode! I live in Houston, so I will be adding a visit to a divine liturgy into my Sunday obligations. I'm thinking once per quarter. Can anyone share how they incorporate it?
you packed in so much! Out of curiosity, how many hours off camera did you spend just in discussion with this guest? I envision hours and hours not being enough.
We have a Byzantine church here in Anchorage, Alaska. I hope to go one day.
How about the next time we hear "Habemus Papum" (we have a pope) that it is an Eastern Rite bishop for a change? Canonically it is entirely possible and would shake things up in the Latin Rite old boys network. And I am personally Latin Rite.
Take that up with the Holy Spirit. That being said, the Eastern Rites are becoming more well-known in the West.
I believe Pope Francis is actually bi-ritual. You'll sometimes see him wearing a chotki.
Anthony Hernandez he is bi ritual for byzantine rite.
We did have 7 syrian popes and a few greeks.
Study the history of the Church, there have been many Greeks elected as Pope of Rome in the distant past before the splits.
Ukrainian Catholic here! What a pleasure!
Are there other episodes on this topic? Have a live Q & A.
0:20 I love how they just look at you 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cool! Catholic action figure toys for priests! Is that the recess bell I hear?
I was baptized, confirmed and married in the Maronite Church but had my first Confession and First Communion in the Roman Catholic Church.
You’re technically under the maronite catholics. :) theyre great. Lots of saints from their there And a few popes from syria and the antiochene see. Like john v., annicitus and others
Latin rite catholic here
According to Apostolic Tradition, there were originally THREE Apostolic Sees. This is confessed by all the fathers who address this subject, and most clearly by Pope St. Damasus I, who issued a decree in (A.D. 381). This is the ancient order --Rome, Alexandria, and Antioch, in that order of primacy and authority. It was only in about (A.D. 700) --after Alexandria and Antioch had fallen to the Muslims, that Rome recognized Constantinople to be the primate in the East. Before this time, that claim was consistently denied, both by Rome and by the other patriarchs.
*When St. Peter left Antioch and returned to Rome, he left his disciple St. Evodius in charge of Antioch. St. Evodius was succeeded by St. Ignatius of Antioch. Then, while at Rome, Peter sent his chief disciple St. Mark to Alexandria, to be the first bishop (and his own "legate") there. And, in doing this, Peter, in essence, "triangulated" the known world.*
The patriarchal authority of Jerusalem is an invention of the Council of Chalcedon. From the time of the fall of Jerusalem, the church of Jerusalem consisted of a token body of Gentle Christians, who were answerable to the metropolitan of Caesarea. It was not until the time of Constantine (two centuries later) that Jerusalem was, again, given a place of honorary importance. But, this was because it was a place of pilgrimage. It was not recognized as a patriarchal church until the Council of Chalcedon (A.D. 451), but continued to be under the authority of the metropolitan of Caesarea, which was in-turn answerable to the Patriarch of Antioch.
The same is true of the so-called patriarchal authority of Constantinople. Despite medieval, state-sponsored legends (which have no basis in fact or ancient history), Byzantium had no connection to Andrew or any Apostle, but was a minor church under the jurisdiction of the metropolitan of Herculea in Thrace, which was in-turn directly answerable to Rome. It was the First Council of Constantinople that first tried to give patriarchal authorty to Byzantium (merely because it was the imperial city). But, both Rome and Alexandria rejected this decree, and it was withdrawn. catholicbridge.com/orthodox/does-the-orthodox-church-predate-the-catholic-church.php
Why is Antioch subordinate to Rome if Antioch was founded by Peter FIRST? Should they not at least be equal? Furthermore, how is that relevant to the Orthodox argument that the Franks began to taint Rome through the Carolingians with various heresies? Rome’s status as “First among equals” is irrelevant as long as those heresies go ignored and unrepented. Popes are First ONLY if they are Orthodox Popes, and an Orthodox Patriarchate should not be a puppet to any earthly prince, but especially the Franks with their Arian influences. (I do not dispute that other Patriarchates have been puppeted at different times, but they have cleansed themselves of these influences, and repented of any heresies. I believe a Confederated hierarchy was ALWAYS God’s plan to defend His Church against error. If one head is poisoned, there are others, it can be cut off.) However, I dispute the more radical Orthodox claim that Western bishops in general lost their validity that early, all at once; in fact, I’m a bit liberal on the topic. I think the schism was not a ‘clean break’ in 1054, but was a very gradual process, like sawing through a thick rope with a small knife, starting with Charlemagne’s puppet bishops and completing with the rape of Constantinople in 1204 being the final thread. I would like to see that be officially declared the true moment of Schism, and subsequently many or most Western saints from the additional 150 years added to the Orthodox calendar. Most, but not all.
I do not see reunification happening unless the Papacy submits to the Equality of the Patriarchs. If and when that happens, I think the rest can be negotiated from there far more easily. John Paul 2 at least was willing to consider the possibility, that the thesis of Duns Scotus and Cardinal Newman were mistaken. However, his failure to Excommunicate Bugnini when he had the chance set a horrible precedent that made most of his positive efforts in general almost moot. He has made it EXTREMELY difficult for any bishops to resolve to formally excommunicate anyone. And it wasn’t just Bugnini; the false ‘nuns’ who made Nancy Pelosi into the the dangerous Jezebel she is today, he had an opportunity to shut them down completely. He sanctioned them but did not END them. They had spread their lies for years before discovery. Now Pelosi speaks admiringly of Borgilio, saying “He’s like the Nuns!”, meaning her heretical ultra feminist (plausibly lesbian) teachers that cosplayed as “nuns”.
I see reuniting occurring in one of two ways:
Uniates continue to take advantage of the loopholes that allow them to mostly self rule and function like Orthodox Christians, and eventually grow powerful and populous enough to launch a soft coup of Rome and elect an Eastern Rite Pope, Greek or Ethiopian. This man, in turn, will do all the hard work that his predecessors should have been doing of clearing the weeds. This will put him in a good position to at least return to a pre-V2 position of negotiation.
The only other possibility is that you continue to decline in general and a Western Orthodox Catholic Patriarch is raised up from within Orthodoxy, who eventually replaces the false popes through sheer attrition, basically we will start the Western See over for you. Broadchurchism is a cancer, Liberation Theology is poison, and the Vatican is rife with both under this heretic.
@@eldermillennial8330 becuase Peter is in Rome. Died there. And Antioch has remained united in and with rome. The maronites have never broken communion. Constantinople started erecting parrallel churches with ultimately split antioch. There is no orthodox equivalent to the maronites. They sought refuge in the mountains of lebanon and repelled both constantinople and the muslims.
Can you please talk about their teachings. For example how the Hungarian Greek Catholic church’s or Slovak Greek Catholic church’s teachings are different to the teachings of the Roman or Latin catholic’s teachings
An interesting difference between the Roman Catholic and Eastern Catholic churches is their take on Archangels. Pope Paul II in 2002 restricted veneration to just 3 (Michael, Raphael, and Gabriel), yet he said that the Catholic Church needs to "breathe from both lungs (East and West). So does that mean "all" Catholics can truly venerate all 7 Archangels? (everyone knows that Uriel is the 4th one😉)
Very true, Uriel has been one of my favorites and I am of the Roman rite.
HA, just saw the Nacho Libre photo!
What are the "distinct differences" between the Eastern Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches?
Is Father Pagano prominently displaying for the camera the logo of a company named after the Greek goddess of victory, whose slogan is "just do it," as encouragement for East-West reunification? Did he have to run this by his Bishop to make sure he wasn't breaking the First Commandment? More importantly, if the guys haven't done an episode on Frankie Yankovic, is Scheel really from Cleveland---and if so, did he buy his gas mask from Goldfish Army-Navy? Inquiring Catholics want to know.
I am a byzaine Catholic Melkite
+_Catholic Talk Show Isn't the word artos used to describe the showbread, which was unleavened?
No. Άρτος literally means bread and bread is leavened. Άζυμος άρτος is the unleavened bread.
Eastern Catholic Church ❤
58:15 The same applies to the Traditional Latin Mass:
The iconographic rules Fr Elias describes (around @45:00) are specific to the Byzantine tradition. They don't apply to the non-Byzantine Churches. E.g. the Ethiopians regularly dipict God the Father whereas the Coptic tradition forbids this.
Sorry for my lack of knowledge...but can someone explain the crusades. I don't really understand what happened or who was involved.
The crusades are a very confusing topic, and I can’t cover it in a CZcams comment. However, the Catholic Talk Show has a good episode on the crusades. It’s a good place to start to clear up misconceptions and start to learn who was involved and what happened
What are the fundamental pieces for a church to be in full communion?
A shared creed, and full, mutual communion
I would say the lowest common denominator would be if our Bishops are in communion with one another.
@@davidfigueroa8188 Well, as Eastern Catholics we use the Creed without filioque. Speaking for Melkites here. Yet, we are fully Catholic and in communion with Rome. East and West can still be in communion with each other despite our differences.
@@feruzusmanov7729 as a filipino.. we dont have the filioque in iur vernacular creed. And we are latin right.
The style of the bread is insignificant. What is crucial is that in situations where deacons or even lay people are entrusted with the transubstantiated body of Christ, that it is easy to secure against vermin or spoiling as all of the transubstantiated pieces of host must be eaten by a Priest if any is left over or God forbid is desecrated in some way. Leavened bread is difficult to protect completely and difficult for a priest to eat all of if for some reason too much is not received at the mass or some desecration occurs. Much easier for a priest to eat 100 wafers than to eat 100 chunks of leavened bread.
So I have a question, Since Catholics are one, Can members of the dferent rites attend and celebrate mass as well as consume the Eucharist of eachothers churches? If that makes sense, it's hard to word my thoughts.
Edit: Nvm I commented before this finished. I found the answer
Yes. 😊. All cartholic sacraments regardless of rite fulfills all your sacramental obligations.
Quick correction - Emperor Diocletian created the tetrarchy, not Constantine.
What is the music in the intro?
does anyone else think Fr. Elias looks/sounds like the late and great Philip Seymour Hoffman?
He really does!
Would never see an Orthodox Priest throwing up gang signs, just saying. Wasn't able to to continue on after that, have much love though to those of you who are eastern catholic, and roman catholic.
Does the east have the same views on the Trinity and Jesus? Thanks
Of course yes
The Ethiopian Church is way more different from the Coptic Church in its liturgical practices than the Roman Church is from the Greek Church. It's only considered a part of the Coptic Rite because historically the Copts only allowed Ethiopia 1 bishop whom they ordained.
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The Ethiopian liturgy is grueling, 3-5 hours every day!
My Ruthenian Byzantine Catholic church shares our building with an Ethiopian Eritrean community. I believe that liturgy is the only one in all the Church that has drums in the liturgy. I've gone to a couple of the Eritrean liturgies but was under the impression it was related to the Alexandrian rite, is that wrong?
On a side note the Eritreans attend the Byzantine rite at our church unless the Eritrean Bishop is in town a couple times a year. So it meant at coffee and donuts after liturgy I'd get the yummy Eritrean bread. Well until the communist government in China gave the world a deadly pandemic and they canceled coffee and donuts.
@@eldermillennial8330I love all ancient liturgies of the Church and attending a couple Eritrean liturgies I've been tempted to feel the same way. But I always tell myself not to feel that way because I think a lot of those feelings come from how culturally foriegn to most Eastern and Western Christians that particular liturgy seems to be. I mean it is the only liturgy that considers the drums a liturgical musical instrument
@@trlyons761 the pandemic. We used to have pandesal and rice porridge but now we have hot ginger tea! This ash wednesday the church was packed.. spilled out into the streets. first year after quarantine was lifted.
@@eldermillennial8330 for real? Whew.
If East and West are to unite it would be great to settle the HERESY issue. What about the SSPX were they ever Heretics in 1988 or with much of Rome was it the other way around?
The SSPX is canonically irregular..there is no heresy, though the word schism gets tossed around with them..they're not in schism..but it IS a complicated issue..God bless the priesthood of the SSPX.
Heresy was never the issue at hand with the SSPX. JPII was waiting out Archbishop Lefebvre to approve consecration of Bishops until he died, and he could no longer wait so made a faithful move to conserate bishops out of necessity. The fact that he believed it was necessary and stated as much makes the alleged excommunications of these Bishops invalid. SSPX remains canonincally irregular, but they are operating out of necessity because there has been a crisis in the Church since Vatican II.
"Satan's smoke has made its way into the temple of God through some crack."-Pope Paul VI, 1972
So....I found my way back home to Rome again (RC) and I’ve been reading a lot of Catholics saying that the new mass and any baptism, confirmation, confession etc after Vatican 2 is invalid?! Is there any truth to that?! I’m freaking out and terrified that my baptism as a baby and confirmation as a teen are not valid!! Also, how are the sacraments and communion valid if the new mass isn’t?? Should I be worried?! 😬
Don't worry, your initiation is valid and the sacrements are valid. You are fully Roman Catholic. There are groups who are not in communion with Rome who falsely claim that Vatican II isn't valid, that is why you may see people making such claims.
Ralph Boustros thank you! But why are so many Catholics saying that the church after Vatican 2 isn’t the true church?! It makes trying to be a true follower of his church hard and confusing.
@@kaiarington4796 There were different groups which left the Church because of Vatican II, some have returned to the Church later on. From what I know, it's mostly because they did not approve of the changes to they way the mass is celebrated and other reasons. Certain groups claim that the current Pope is not really in apostolic succession with St Peter. It's really sad because schisms of any kind cause so much confusion.
@@kaiarington4796 Yes you are in full communion with the Church. The sacraments are valid. 100%..Follow the creed. Believe that Christ is truly present in the Eucharist body and blood soul and divinity. Pray to Our Lady..the rosary and follow the teachings of the saints..and go to Confession regularly. These are very very good guidelines to achieve sanctity. The Holy Spirit will strengthen you
I would be concerned if you didnt go to Mass or if you did and thought that the Eucharist was a symbol as some do. Our lady was the first catechist..She never ever leads her children astray...She will show you the truth always rest assured.
Unfortunately there was an underlying antisemitism in the East much less than in early Rome causing many to avoid the unleavened bread associated with the Seder matzo even though it was used at the Last Supper
Nonetheless, it is _still_ the Body of Christ!!
Also it is an historic fact that every Church used leavened bread and at a certain point Rome switched to unleavened bread (i think around the 8th or 9th century) and it spread to all the western Church which generally followed the practices of those done in Rome.
CHICAGO!!!! is he a Cubs Fan
He " worships " Deep-Dish Cheesus Crust, though!! :P
Syro Malabar Catholic here 👋👋
I had read in a historical perspective, the reason Constantine left Rome was because he had his wife & son executed for plotting against him & this created a lot of division & controversy in the city. Father Elias stated it was because of the continued prevalence of paganism in Rome. I also understand Constantine was not baptized until he was on his deathbed, & was baptized by an Arian bishop. Not trying to be controversial, I just had not read anywhere the perspective Father Elias presented on Constantine's departure from Rome. This was very enlightening perspective on the Eastern Rites & how they function. Did not fully understand the differences until watching this video.