The Byzantine Catholic Rite Explained

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  • čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
  • Fr. Paul Varchola West takes us into the richness and tradition of the Byzantine Liturgy on today's episode.
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Komentáře • 72

  • @tonyjames9016
    @tonyjames9016 Před 5 měsíci +38

    What a wonderful interview! Thank you for this. I am a cradle Roman Catholic who left for Orthodoxy for a number of years, and I am coming back to communion with Rome, now, in the Byzantine Catholic Church. The closest one to me is Ukrainian. May God bless you and Michael. Lord have Mercy.

    • @luisrios3446
      @luisrios3446 Před 5 měsíci +12

      Welcome home brother!!!🤩🙏Glory to God forever!!!

  • @user-tp4hr8xw1s
    @user-tp4hr8xw1s Před 5 měsíci +22

    Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever! I am born, raised and married in the Byzantine church.

  • @Revolver1701
    @Revolver1701 Před 5 měsíci +11

    I’m not a Catholic but “Byzantine Symposium” sounds so cool. 👍

  • @El_p4ancho
    @El_p4ancho Před 5 měsíci +13

    Another banger

  • @user-zi9bc5rj5z
    @user-zi9bc5rj5z Před 5 měsíci +7

    The russian greek catholic chruch sadly is one of the smallest eastern catholic churches we must pray that their numbers increase

  • @deemetzger5779
    @deemetzger5779 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Please keep giving us more information! There is such a lack of information for us Catholics and you are filling an important need for s. Thank you.

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex Před 5 měsíci +6

    The video I was waiting for! Many thanks 🙏

  • @Migz2682
    @Migz2682 Před 5 měsíci +5

    With the amount of hispanics in the united states, specifically on the coasts, byzantine catholic churches should consider celebrating the divine liturgy in spanish. I know Florida has orthodox churches celebrating in spanish. But i dont know of any BCC in NJ that celebrate the divine liturgy in spanish. I'd love that for my parents. I attend a NO and a byzantine church every week but want my parents to experience the byzantine church and understand it.

  • @TheBr8kdownjunkie
    @TheBr8kdownjunkie Před 5 měsíci +4

    Thank you! Great Job Father Paul!

  • @TheEdzy25
    @TheEdzy25 Před 5 měsíci +10

    Mexican-American here, fiancee is slovak-hungarian, in her family they go to both Roman- byzantine rites. But for me I'm all about the Roman rite. I wear the scapulars, the crucifix, st. Jude statues and of course are Lady of Guadalupe, our Western Catholicism is embedded in who I'am. Eastern rites are just foriegn to our culture. I spent time playing in soccer in eastern and central europe, and can appreciate the eastern rites, but just doesnt fit in my culture. But one cool thing is they can blend, and we have similarities.
    Viva Cristo Rey!
    Viva La Santa Iglesia Catolica!
    Viva La Virgen De Guadalupe!
    Viva Sonora Mexico! 🇻🇦🇲🇽✝️

    • @Compulsive-Elk7103
      @Compulsive-Elk7103 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Mexican american here as well and I also grew up Roman Catholic but have been attending the Byzantine Ruthenian Catholic Church for over a year now and I'm currently discerning making a canonical transfer.
      I have fallen in love with the Byzantine Ruthenian Catholic Church.
      Fr Loyola , a Byzantine Catholic priest from Chicago said this "united in belief, divided by expression"
      Glory to Jesus Christ!🙏☦️♥️

    • @Linkgt
      @Linkgt Před 5 měsíci +2

      Im curious, do you attend the Novus ordo or Traditional Latin mass?

    • @TheEdzy25
      @TheEdzy25 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Compulsive-Elk7103 sure go for it, i just have deep Roots in northern mexico, my parents are retired and have a ranch in sonora spend a lot of their time there now, growing up i would also spend time down their. We have are own devotions like padre kino. Like i said i spent time in eastern europe/central. Eastern orthodox would also be fascinated of our Roman ways. Gifted scapulars and rosarys to my friends that wanted them. So like i said everything of who I am is embedded in my catholicism. They way we talk, greet, celebrations etc.. im not an easterner im a prodoct of West, the Roman west.

    • @TheEdzy25
      @TheEdzy25 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@Linkgt i attend both novus ordo and latin mass. Also attend slovak-greek catholic liturgy as well, cause of my fiancee. I'm mexican-american. To be Mexican is to be Catholic. We have fought and bled for our faith. It is embedded in who we are.

    • @mjramirez6008
      @mjramirez6008 Před 5 měsíci

      God Bless

  • @MiguelEnriqueCVeluz
    @MiguelEnriqueCVeluz Před měsícem +1

    It's interesting to know that the number one question you get in your ministry is a question about the Rites and Churches in the universal Catholic Church. As a Filipino iconographer, the number one question I get for every icon I make of Mary is, "Oh, is that the Mother of Perpetual Help?" And then I'd go into great detail explaining that not all Byzantine icons of Our Lady is the Perpetual Help icon. 😄

  • @NoahBoyd-qm5ng
    @NoahBoyd-qm5ng Před 5 měsíci +4

    I have a Maronite Catholic Church in my Hometown of New Bedford, Massachusetts. It’s Syriac Catholicism because I don’t have a Byzantine Catholic Church in New Bedford.

  • @user-oh3tl7je1q
    @user-oh3tl7je1q Před 4 měsíci

    Great interview! I can’t recall if this book was mentioned or not, but I would highly recommend Nicholas Cabasilas’s Commentary on the Divine Liturgy.

  • @JumpingFencesbyMsLaura
    @JumpingFencesbyMsLaura Před 5 měsíci +2

    28:26 is where to start if you’re in a hurry.

  • @thomasfolio7931
    @thomasfolio7931 Před 4 měsíci +1

    My family settled in New Mexico in the 1590s, Latin Rite for all those generations. During the 1970s when things were going wild (we were then living in San Diego) we sought refuge from the craziness in the Ruthenian and Ukranian Catholic parishes there. When we visited relatives in Riverside/San Bernardino we went to the Divine Liturgy in Fontana CA. While Vatican II called for a de-latinization of the Eastern Churches, it was the Latin Rite Catholics who wanted to remove the Infant of Prague and other Latin devotions to the parish hall, expressing that just as what the families from the Latin Rite saw as a stripping of our culture, we wanted to see a pure Eastern Devotion not imposed upon by Latin influences (within the Church itself) Those devotions were fine for home, but some of the Latin refugees wanted an Eastern Spirituality at the Parish level.

  • @joshuabetancourt2000
    @joshuabetancourt2000 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Love the Byzantine tradition as expressed in both the Catholic Church and Orthodox churches. My only critique of the Byzantine Catholic tradition is that it sometimes feels “Latinized” (e.g., revised-revised Gregorian calendar and “forever and ever” as opposed to the “unto of the ages” in the liturgy) and sometimes lacks some of the key liturgical services such as “Orthros.” 😔🙏🏻

    • @tedcraboli8021
      @tedcraboli8021 Před 29 dny +1

      I believe that depends on the parish! At my Melkite parish there’s Orthros before Liturgy, and Vespers once or twice a week, and we get all the “unto the ages of ages” we could ask for. The priests around my area aren’t per-se anti-Latin but they’re certainly staunchly Melkite (Byzantine).

  • @Migz2682
    @Migz2682 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Can you do a video on the Jerusalem rite and one of the Dominican rite please. CZcams doesn't have enough on that.

  • @Migz2682
    @Migz2682 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It makes much more sense why it's called the great entrance now

  • @ByzCathCuban
    @ByzCathCuban Před 5 dny

    53:41 the 10th time we use St Basil is on his feast day on January 1st 🙃

  • @Federico-lq6dj
    @Federico-lq6dj Před 11 dny

    Praised be Jesus Christ!
    I wanted to clarify for anyone interested, that we have always had vespers in the Roman Catholic rite. It is not the Saturday evening Mass. The word vesper itself is Latin ;)

  • @carmeister_
    @carmeister_ Před 5 měsíci +1

    I want to visit a Byzantine Catholic Church! There’s one about an hour away from me but I just gotta wake up really early to go lol I’m considering either converting to Latin rite or Byzantine. Orthodox is also pretty cool!

    • @luisrios3446
      @luisrios3446 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Go Byzantine Catholic, if you like the rite more.

    • @MarmotCanales
      @MarmotCanales Před 2 měsíci +2

      Historically, the "Byzantine Catholics" used to be Orthodox. Starting in the 1500s, a few Orthodox eparchies started uniting with Rome (this was usually a political strategy in order to preserve their "Eastern-ness" in the Austro-Hungarian empire). God bless!

  • @kalashnikov4713
    @kalashnikov4713 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Next do a video on syro malabar and syro malankara from kerala

  • @Migz2682
    @Migz2682 Před 5 měsíci

    Im confused in what he attended before coming back. How different was it, what was latinozed exactly? Was it still the divine liturgy of st basil and st chrysostom? How different was it?

  • @hiroshisaved
    @hiroshisaved Před 5 měsíci

    off topic but does anyone know any good bible study channels or videos with catholic interpretation

  • @Police_k9
    @Police_k9 Před 5 měsíci

    Hey brother, I have to ask, what is your view on saint michael the archangel?

  • @Migz2682
    @Migz2682 Před 5 měsíci

    Is the st basil divine liturgy earlier then the pre-tridentine liturgy (the mass before the tlm)

    • @soldierofchrist1096
      @soldierofchrist1096 Před 4 měsíci

      Yes. The Pre-Tridentine Mass generally dates to around the late 1500s

  • @LuisGomez-gd7pp
    @LuisGomez-gd7pp Před 5 měsíci

    What I have noticed is that their is alot of Catholic influences online, including the Catholics

  • @shadowtheghosthedgehog261
    @shadowtheghosthedgehog261 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What is the difference between Romain Catholic and eastern Catholic?

    • @RickW-HGWT
      @RickW-HGWT Před 5 měsíci

      A quick answer is different form of liturgy, the Eastern Rite is mostly a sung liturgy, the communion form is different. Big plus is married men can become priests in the Eastern Rite, a married priest has perspectives that a celibate does not. Attend one and speak to the laity and priest after.

  • @treytrapani9813
    @treytrapani9813 Před 5 měsíci +2

    How does one become an Eastern Rite Catholic?

    • @junicornplays980
      @junicornplays980 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's called a canonical transfer, or a transfer of ascription. After you've attended the Byzantine church for a bit you can ask the priest to start this. You have to write a letter saying why you'd like to transfer, and the priest will also write a letter. It gets sent to the bishop who can approve or disapprove.

    • @treytrapani9813
      @treytrapani9813 Před 5 měsíci

      @@junicornplays980 im currently Eastern Orthodox

    • @junicornplays980
      @junicornplays980 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@treytrapani9813 Oh then it's super easy for you. Talk to an Eastern Catholic priest. I think it's just a simple profession of faith.

    • @RickW-HGWT
      @RickW-HGWT Před 5 měsíci

      I never did that, I just started going there after I came back to the church.

    • @junicornplays980
      @junicornplays980 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@RickW-HGWT I mean, technically, since Orthodox can receive Catholic sacraments, it does seem like a profession of faith is more of a formality. I didn't want to lead any astray, but unofficially, some Eastern Catholic priests, especially the ones from less Latinized churches, would probably be ok with that.

  • @Castellano87
    @Castellano87 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Do Byzantine Catholics believe in purgatory or tollhouses?

    • @IM_LOST284
      @IM_LOST284 Před 5 měsíci +2

      They call purgatory that I think but they do believe in purgatory they just call it that I think

    • @Compulsive-Elk7103
      @Compulsive-Elk7103 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Yes, they just don't really talk or focus on it too much but yes they do believe in it.
      Please correct me if I'm wrong anyone
      Glory to Jesus Christ! 🙏☦️♥️

    • @MrCoachdunham
      @MrCoachdunham Před 5 měsíci

      If one is truly Byzantine Catholic, no. Many ByzCatholics I know do not. They accept that the West does though.

    • @lau27cori
      @lau27cori Před 3 měsíci

      I am Catholic of byzantine rite from Romania and we do believe in Purgatory, we pray for the souls in Purgatory at every Mass.

    • @joshyvert4409
      @joshyvert4409 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@MrCoachdunhamlol that is a very Protestant take. Purgatory is supported in the Bible. If one is a Catholic they do believe in purgatory or they don’t hold all of the beliefs of Catholicism.

  • @Demi.d3mi
    @Demi.d3mi Před 5 měsíci +2

    bro handsome

  • @user-cx6mr1sq4s
    @user-cx6mr1sq4s Před 5 měsíci

    Restriction mode was on lol

  • @doctorbuzz987
    @doctorbuzz987 Před 5 měsíci

    Please add a bibliography.

  • @patricusthegreat8046
    @patricusthegreat8046 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Same church different creed🤔

    • @StrugglingProtestant
      @StrugglingProtestant Před 5 měsíci +1

      It's incoherent(contradiction).

    • @zacharyconner9319
      @zacharyconner9319 Před 5 měsíci

      Could you explain your stance to someone looking for which church to follow or not follow​@@StrugglingProtestant

    • @Compulsive-Elk7103
      @Compulsive-Elk7103 Před 5 měsíci

      What?

    • @Linkgt
      @Linkgt Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@StrugglingProtestant Imagine a protestant telling Catholics about "incoherence" and "Contradictions" ... The lack of self-awareness is STRONG

    • @luisrios3446
      @luisrios3446 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Not really. Rome always believed in the Filioque, but when the Nicene Creed was made it wasn’t included. Perhaps it wasn’t necessary, since it doesn’t contradict the Filioque (The Holy Spirit indeed comes from the Father).
      Later centuries a heresy was being developed in Spain. This heresy put in doubt the divinity of Christ, so they added the Filioque to fight against the heresy. It was later adopted by the whole Church of Rome. The East never had a problem with that until Photios.
      Eastern Catholic Churches believe in the theology of the Filioque, but for tradition’s sake they just don’t say it when they proclamate the creed, but it is usually in parentheses (and the Son). And this is perfectly acceptable, since they respect the theology, but also respect their own tradition, just like in the past.