While I would for the most part agree with making Aragorn a Human, I do think there is an argument to be made that he could be a Half-Elf due to his Numenorean heritage
Half elves in LOTR choose if they want to be Elf or Man so they don't really have Half Elves like in BG3. Numenorians are men that is taller than average and more long lived, so it should be a human with the big body setting. In the books he's huge.
@anderslennartsson1828 yeah that is one area I overlooked because I was basing appearance on the actors in the films not how they were described in the books. But if you want to go by the books absolutely use the big body setting for aragorn and boromir.
@@GeekEKittenGaming No im totally on board with going for Viggo Mortensen! It was just a comment about using Half-Elf instead of human and him being Numenorian. Thanks for a great build
I'm not sure if you knew but the ranger knight favoured enemy option gives you heavy armour proficiency if you wanted to not take a fighter dip to start. which would mean you could get alert at lvl 4.
Yes, I did know about it but I wanted favored enemy type keeper of the veil for the build. I felt that it would be wasteful to choose ranger knight when you can just start in fighter (if you're going to do fighter anyways).
A sword i think could also work for Aragorn is Phalar Aluve. Its an elvish blade so it fits Narsil in that regard and it lets Aragorn let out a rallying cry to his allies or inspire fear into the orcs through the warcry of Elendil
@GeekEKittenGaming Any time :) I enjoy thinking of these kinds of builds as well, a lot of fun to do. Sometimes gotta stretch it a little to make the characters unique from each other, but still fun If you ever do one for Merry, I'd recommend Bard/Thief/Paladin or just Bard/Paladin. And Gimli absolutely a berserker. Just think instead of rage it's his competitive spirit
@voicingdragoon7 Yeah you definitely have to color outside the lines to make characters from other worlds fit into BG3, and sometimes it gets really challenging, but still fun. Interesting thoughts on Merry. The issue I see with that is the magic you'll get stuck with that isn't relevant to his character. You can't really keep things strictly functional with the spells paladins get.
@GeekEKittenGaming to correct myself, I meant Pippin, not Merry. Merry Is more Bard/Fighter. I was mostly thinking paladin cause he does swear an oath to Denethor, the throne of Gondor and later on Aragorn himself. Plus his father was named Paladin so that'd be funny. But I see your issue too.
@voicingdragoon7 lol that makes more sense. Yeah that's a tough one! I see your point because of his position as steward. I'm gonna have to think on that. Maybe just like 1 or 2 levels in it to represent that time in his life and how it changed him?
you can go 5 into ranger for the first few levels so u get extra attack at level 5 since you only get good heavy armor sets in act 3 and aragon is really wearing light armor until the later books/movies. you can always respec at withers when you get to act 3!
I'm actually going to put a poll soon asking about interest in that very thing! Thank you for asking. I recommend checking out the Frodo build in the meantime if you haven't already :)
Awesome video! You just convinced me to download the game again and start another playtrough! There goes my free time again for the next 100-200 hours xD
Oooo this was really cool, great job! I'd honestly argue for him to keep persuasion proficiency as he is a fantastic leader who many people can get behind (even before he became king), but your choices are great too!
I think it's myopic for anyone to simply think because X character is called X thing that they can only ever be that X thing. For example, Legolas with his speed and agility and the fact when do you see this guy get hit by anything doing wide AoE swings? So obviously he has some form evasion, and considering his arrow shots are way more devastating than they ever have a right to be (sneak attack) he's obviously some form of Rogue 7/Ranger 5 build, though I can see an easy argument for Fighter especially as Champion because that's precisely what he is among Mirkwood elves. But that's just an example, though for Aragon honestly--I'd personally just done 2 levels of Fighter for action surge and then everything else into Oath of the Ancients (or Vengeance) Paladin, because lorewise it's a bit closer to what the Dunedain themselves were in spite of those like Aragon being labelled a "ranger", there's what people call you and then there's what you truly are. Also, wouldn't have gotten too hung up on getting feats, honestly a lot of what feats provide can be made up for via gear and tactics in BG3, and in the case of the later that tracks more for how things are in LotR any way--prioritizing their ASIs makes them more capable in their class (and character in LotR, I mean, come on---our man Aragon has much higher WIS and CHA than just 12 and 10 respectively) oft more than feats in BG3 will provide (this holds true in DnD 5e TTRPG as well, most don't worry about feats typically unless they rolled well for stats, even when putting optimization aside). Just some advice/examples for future character builds.
To clarify, the ranger/fighter multiclass build was not due to him being called a ranger. It was selected due to believing that would be the best choices. Thank you for your comment.
Aragorn spends a good amount of time being an actual ranger, though. The class is literally based on him. He protects and guards the shire, hunting down enemies and keeping them away. He also spends a solid portion of time tracking and hunting the uruk-hai. He learns their number how far away they are, reconstructs a whole battle in his head hours after its over, and discovers the Hobbits made it out. That skill is literally what the whole class is based around. You could make an argument for a dip in Paladin for sure, but to argue that aragorn is a ranger, only in name, is an insanity.
@munchman1324nj I agree with your points about ranger (well said) but the issue with dipping into paladin is that the spells don't match. Aragorn is only a paladin in the sense that he strives for justice and oaths being fulfilled. If the context wasn't BG3, I could see Paladin working. But within BG3 you're automatically getting access to spells that don't fit. Fighter is a more appropriate choice. Plus you get to use the battle master subclass which fits him very well.
@GeekEKittenGaming completely agree. You'd have to pick a lot of the class features of Paladin out to make them fit at which point it wouldn't be paladin anymore . Aura's make sense (kinda), oath makes sense, but so does oathbreaker lol, smite doesn't fit, and neither does most of the spell list.
@@munchman1324nj Exactly! You gotta make some concessions when you're working within the confines of the game, and we try to make the ones that we think (emphasis on think lol) make the most sense and are the most respectful to the character and lore.
Aragorn from the books is almost a Ranger/Paladin, as he has incredible healing magic, power against despair and evil, and the ability to bolster his allies with his voice. Not to mention his Ranger abilities.
I could see that class combo for book Aragorn - although I think I would either still add in Fighter OR go stronger in Ranger because if you get too deep into Paladin you get into magic that isn't really applicable.
So I just finished watching all your LOTR builds so far. VERY well researched and though out. But I am curious how they actually play in the game. I guess it's really down to the player. And like you said most other build vids try to wring out the most from their class choices. I am playing one of my characters as more of a story build. A Bardlock. Young female Tiefling who sold her soul to a devil to gain musical fame. Fun but not very effective yet. Keep these coming. You just got another sub.
Thanks very much - I'm glad you enjoyed them! There are many more coming. To your point, they definitely aren't the most effective since they focus on being character relevant. However, the Gandalf build in particular has been tested by a few people and has been reported to be quite good!
As I was watching these last night, I got to thinking about some other characters: Beorn (Druid?), Tom Bombadil, and his wife Goldberry (I have NO idea on both! Lol), Galadriel, Arwen, Elrond, and Saruman. I know you got a lot on your plate and some of these are probably on the list already. Just curious how they would fit in BG3. I love your concept of all this! 😃
@christopherhiller1035 indeed some are already on the list to be voted on, but I don't mind adding more to the list. The idea is to keep having content to make, and you can't do that without ideas!
@tbowne05 I have a bg3 run that I finished so I keep loading a save file from it, have my husband make a new character (or use a hireling if he's unavailable) and then level them up. For the basics and appearance, each time I am going into a new game and then canceling out once I'm done. Doing the builds during recording doesn't take too long, but doing them over and over again for research takes awhile.
@@GeekEKittenGaming wow that's a real system. Thanks for the hard work. I'll definitely refer to them in the future. I'm finishing up my first playthrough now and I tried to make my character based on a book character called Logen Ninefinger. He's a barbarian so pretty straight forward. I was shocked to then find an NPC with the same Ninefingers nick name.
Appreciate that! They are fun to make, despite the work. I'm not familiar with Logen Ninefinger - which book (or series) is he from? Is it possible that the NPC was a "nod" or "homage" to that character?
@GeekEKittenGaming thanks! I love your builds! I recreated the Lord of the rings ones until 2am last night. Lol. Can't wait to see what you do with Bilbo, Gimli, and Thorin! You have a very good eye for this! 😃
@christopherhiller1035 Gimli is a sure thing but can't guarantee the other two (they'll have to be put to vote!) I'm glad you're enjoying the builds ☺️
Love it. Also if your willing, I have some future ideas for u after u are done with LotR builds. Maybe recreate the party members from The Legends of Vox Machina, that would be awesome.
You could have done Ranger Knight for the Heavy Armour proficiency. It also gives proficiency in History, which is also quite appropriate for Aragorn since he is well versed in History
Yes, I could have. But I explained why I didn't in the video - I also explained why the history proficiency would be pointless from Ranger Knight (because the background gives you history proficiency).
(remember he used kingsfoil for frodo) definitely would have chosen medicine instead acrobatics cos you only need either athletics for defence and offence againts pushing, acrobatics is only for defence if higher and its more a legolas skill...and wasnt he a ranger of the north -> cold resistance would make more sense...and the beard, nono hes not king yet =) i would take the shorter one still...
I get your feedback about acrobatics (although I still think it works for him and other fellowship characters), but regarding the beard, I didn't choose the shorter one because it looks god awful (which I explained in the video). If it didn't look horrible I absolutely would have gone with it. Maybe it looks OK for some people, depending on their set up/settings.
For gloves: Early on I would recommend the gloves of missile snaring - you can get them in the Druid Grove from Aron. Solid starter gloves and on theme with Aragorn's ability to deflect attacks. Later in the game (much later), I would recommend Gauntlets of Hill Giant Strength, which boost your STR stat to 23. You won't get them until you reach the House of Hope in Act 3. For boots: Early on I would recommend either the Linebreaker Boots (found in the Worg Pens at the Shattered Sanctum in Act 1) or Boots of Speed (from Thulla in Myconid Colony in Act 1) - they both fit for Aragorn's build. Later on, I would recommend the Bonespike Boots (Rivington in Act 3) - very appropriate for the build. For helmets: Unfortunately the only crown-like (circlet) helmets I found that kind of go with the build are the Arcane Circlet (Uncommon) found in Moonrise Towers Prison in Act 2 and the Scabby Pugilist Circlet (rare) found in Act 3 Rivington. You're better off using helmets. The best fit would be the Helm of Balduran (legendary), but you won't get that until Act 3 in the Dragon's Sanctum.
IF you take "Ranger Knight" as your Favored Enemy, which I explained in the video why I didn't. Please see this page on the BG3 Ranger: baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger
While I would for the most part agree with making Aragorn a Human, I do think there is an argument to be made that he could be a Half-Elf due to his Numenorean heritage
That's a fair point! I could see that too.
Agreed, Numenorians certainly have distinct Half-Elf characteristics.
Half elves in LOTR choose if they want to be Elf or Man so they don't really have Half Elves like in BG3. Numenorians are men that is taller than average and more long lived, so it should be a human with the big body setting. In the books he's huge.
@anderslennartsson1828 yeah that is one area I overlooked because I was basing appearance on the actors in the films not how they were described in the books. But if you want to go by the books absolutely use the big body setting for aragorn and boromir.
@@GeekEKittenGaming No im totally on board with going for Viggo Mortensen! It was just a comment about using Half-Elf instead of human and him being Numenorian. Thanks for a great build
I'm not sure if you knew but the ranger knight favoured enemy option gives you heavy armour proficiency if you wanted to not take a fighter dip to start. which would mean you could get alert at lvl 4.
Yes, I did know about it but I wanted favored enemy type keeper of the veil for the build. I felt that it would be wasteful to choose ranger knight when you can just start in fighter (if you're going to do fighter anyways).
Super comprehensive and well researched - excellent work as always!
Thanks very much!
A sword i think could also work for Aragorn is Phalar Aluve. Its an elvish blade so it fits Narsil in that regard and it lets Aragorn let out a rallying cry to his allies or inspire fear into the orcs through the warcry of Elendil
Also a good choice! Thank you for sharing.
@GeekEKittenGaming Any time :)
I enjoy thinking of these kinds of builds as well, a lot of fun to do. Sometimes gotta stretch it a little to make the characters unique from each other, but still fun
If you ever do one for Merry, I'd recommend Bard/Thief/Paladin or just Bard/Paladin.
And Gimli absolutely a berserker. Just think instead of rage it's his competitive spirit
@voicingdragoon7 Yeah you definitely have to color outside the lines to make characters from other worlds fit into BG3, and sometimes it gets really challenging, but still fun. Interesting thoughts on Merry. The issue I see with that is the magic you'll get stuck with that isn't relevant to his character. You can't really keep things strictly functional with the spells paladins get.
@GeekEKittenGaming to correct myself, I meant Pippin, not Merry. Merry Is more Bard/Fighter.
I was mostly thinking paladin cause he does swear an oath to Denethor, the throne of Gondor and later on Aragorn himself. Plus his father was named Paladin so that'd be funny. But I see your issue too.
@voicingdragoon7 lol that makes more sense. Yeah that's a tough one! I see your point because of his position as steward. I'm gonna have to think on that. Maybe just like 1 or 2 levels in it to represent that time in his life and how it changed him?
you can go 5 into ranger for the first few levels so u get extra attack at level 5 since you only get good heavy armor sets in act 3 and aragon is really wearing light armor until the later books/movies. you can always respec at withers when you get to act 3!
This is true - you can respec later to get heavy armor proficiency.
RETURN OF --- THE KIIIIING!
Can you make a build for each of the Fellowship?
I'm actually going to put a poll soon asking about interest in that very thing! Thank you for asking. I recommend checking out the Frodo build in the meantime if you haven't already :)
Awesome video! You just convinced me to download the game again and start another playtrough! There goes my free time again for the next 100-200 hours xD
In that case I will say you're welcome AND I'm sorry 😅
Oooo this was really cool, great job!
I'd honestly argue for him to keep persuasion proficiency as he is a fantastic leader who many people can get behind (even before he became king), but your choices are great too!
Thank you! And that's a fair point.
I think it's myopic for anyone to simply think because X character is called X thing that they can only ever be that X thing. For example, Legolas with his speed and agility and the fact when do you see this guy get hit by anything doing wide AoE swings? So obviously he has some form evasion, and considering his arrow shots are way more devastating than they ever have a right to be (sneak attack) he's obviously some form of Rogue 7/Ranger 5 build, though I can see an easy argument for Fighter especially as Champion because that's precisely what he is among Mirkwood elves. But that's just an example, though for Aragon honestly--I'd personally just done 2 levels of Fighter for action surge and then everything else into Oath of the Ancients (or Vengeance) Paladin, because lorewise it's a bit closer to what the Dunedain themselves were in spite of those like Aragon being labelled a "ranger", there's what people call you and then there's what you truly are. Also, wouldn't have gotten too hung up on getting feats, honestly a lot of what feats provide can be made up for via gear and tactics in BG3, and in the case of the later that tracks more for how things are in LotR any way--prioritizing their ASIs makes them more capable in their class (and character in LotR, I mean, come on---our man Aragon has much higher WIS and CHA than just 12 and 10 respectively) oft more than feats in BG3 will provide (this holds true in DnD 5e TTRPG as well, most don't worry about feats typically unless they rolled well for stats, even when putting optimization aside). Just some advice/examples for future character builds.
To clarify, the ranger/fighter multiclass build was not due to him being called a ranger. It was selected due to believing that would be the best choices. Thank you for your comment.
Aragorn spends a good amount of time being an actual ranger, though. The class is literally based on him. He protects and guards the shire, hunting down enemies and keeping them away. He also spends a solid portion of time tracking and hunting the uruk-hai. He learns their number how far away they are, reconstructs a whole battle in his head hours after its over, and discovers the Hobbits made it out. That skill is literally what the whole class is based around. You could make an argument for a dip in Paladin for sure, but to argue that aragorn is a ranger, only in name, is an insanity.
@munchman1324nj I agree with your points about ranger (well said) but the issue with dipping into paladin is that the spells don't match. Aragorn is only a paladin in the sense that he strives for justice and oaths being fulfilled. If the context wasn't BG3, I could see Paladin working. But within BG3 you're automatically getting access to spells that don't fit. Fighter is a more appropriate choice. Plus you get to use the battle master subclass which fits him very well.
@GeekEKittenGaming completely agree. You'd have to pick a lot of the class features of Paladin out to make them fit at which point it wouldn't be paladin anymore . Aura's make sense (kinda), oath makes sense, but so does oathbreaker lol, smite doesn't fit, and neither does most of the spell list.
@@munchman1324nj Exactly! You gotta make some concessions when you're working within the confines of the game, and we try to make the ones that we think (emphasis on think lol) make the most sense and are the most respectful to the character and lore.
Aragorn is THE switch hitter - being skilled with the sword and the bow. Having two fighting styles feels pretty appropriate.
Indeed he is!
Aragorn from the books is almost a Ranger/Paladin, as he has incredible healing magic, power against despair and evil, and the ability to bolster his allies with his voice. Not to mention his Ranger abilities.
I could see that class combo for book Aragorn - although I think I would either still add in Fighter OR go stronger in Ranger because if you get too deep into Paladin you get into magic that isn't really applicable.
This is an awesome build actually. Good job. Earned a subscriber here.
Thanks very much! Appreciate it. I hope you'll enjoy some of the other builds we've done too.
Thanks for sharing this great build....awesome content...have a great day
Thank you, you too!
So I just finished watching all your LOTR builds so far. VERY well researched and though out. But I am curious how they actually play in the game. I guess it's really down to the player. And like you said most other build vids try to wring out the most from their class choices. I am playing one of my characters as more of a story build. A Bardlock. Young female Tiefling who sold her soul to a devil to gain musical fame. Fun but not very effective yet. Keep these coming. You just got another sub.
Thanks very much - I'm glad you enjoyed them! There are many more coming. To your point, they definitely aren't the most effective since they focus on being character relevant. However, the Gandalf build in particular has been tested by a few people and has been reported to be quite good!
As I was watching these last night, I got to thinking about some other characters: Beorn (Druid?), Tom Bombadil, and his wife Goldberry (I have NO idea on both! Lol), Galadriel, Arwen, Elrond, and Saruman.
I know you got a lot on your plate and some of these are probably on the list already. Just curious how they would fit in BG3.
I love your concept of all this! 😃
@christopherhiller1035 indeed some are already on the list to be voted on, but I don't mind adding more to the list. The idea is to keep having content to make, and you can't do that without ideas!
These videos are great! I can tell you put a lot of thought in.
Thank you! Yes, they require a good deal of work between the research, recording and editing 😅
@@GeekEKittenGaming how do you cue up the certain levels for these builds? Do you just level up each build yourself? That must take forever
@tbowne05 I have a bg3 run that I finished so I keep loading a save file from it, have my husband make a new character (or use a hireling if he's unavailable) and then level them up. For the basics and appearance, each time I am going into a new game and then canceling out once I'm done. Doing the builds during recording doesn't take too long, but doing them over and over again for research takes awhile.
@@GeekEKittenGaming wow that's a real system. Thanks for the hard work. I'll definitely refer to them in the future.
I'm finishing up my first playthrough now and I tried to make my character based on a book character called Logen Ninefinger. He's a barbarian so pretty straight forward. I was shocked to then find an NPC with the same Ninefingers nick name.
Appreciate that! They are fun to make, despite the work. I'm not familiar with Logen Ninefinger - which book (or series) is he from? Is it possible that the NPC was a "nod" or "homage" to that character?
“Why did you give Aragorn great weapon, he uses a LONGSWORD.”
Medieval weapon nerds: “SMH”
lol
Wow thank you very much love your work🙏🙏🙏
Thank you so much 😊 I'm glad you enjoyed the build! I would recommend checking out the Frodo build as well if you haven't seen it.
just a correction, Diamonds Bane from the Adamantine longsword only automatically crits on objects.
You are correct - that was a miss on my part. Thank you for pointing it out!
Can you create a build for Robin Hood, Maid Marion, Little John, and the band of Merry Men of Sherwood Forest?
No guarantees I'll get to them but I will certainly add them to the list!
@GeekEKittenGaming thanks! I love your builds! I recreated the Lord of the rings ones until 2am last night. Lol. Can't wait to see what you do with Bilbo, Gimli, and Thorin!
You have a very good eye for this! 😃
@christopherhiller1035 Gimli is a sure thing but can't guarantee the other two (they'll have to be put to vote!) I'm glad you're enjoying the builds ☺️
Love it. Also if your willing, I have some future ideas for u after u are done with LotR builds. Maybe recreate the party members from The Legends of Vox Machina, that would be awesome.
Thank you, and always up for ideas. Interestingly enough, Vox Machina is already on the list 😊
@@GeekEKittenGaming Awesome, I'm really looking forward to it!!!
Very fun video!
Thanks!
Really well done! Legolas is my crush though 🫣
Thanks! Can't blame you for that, Legolas is also a looker.
Just force anisotropic filtering to 16x on driver panel and it will fix beards, the ingame option not working atm.
Thank you so much!
You could have done Ranger Knight for the Heavy Armour proficiency. It also gives proficiency in History, which is also quite appropriate for Aragorn since he is well versed in History
Yes, I could have. But I explained why I didn't in the video - I also explained why the history proficiency would be pointless from Ranger Knight (because the background gives you history proficiency).
(remember he used kingsfoil for frodo) definitely would have chosen medicine instead acrobatics cos you only need either athletics for defence and offence againts pushing, acrobatics is only for defence if higher and its more a legolas skill...and wasnt he a ranger of the north -> cold resistance would make more sense...and the beard, nono hes not king yet =) i would take the shorter one still...
I get your feedback about acrobatics (although I still think it works for him and other fellowship characters), but regarding the beard, I didn't choose the shorter one because it looks god awful (which I explained in the video). If it didn't look horrible I absolutely would have gone with it. Maybe it looks OK for some people, depending on their set up/settings.
Hello i have a question do you have any suggestion for gloves boots and maybe like crown for helmet?
For gloves: Early on I would recommend the gloves of missile snaring - you can get them in the Druid Grove from Aron. Solid starter gloves and on theme with Aragorn's ability to deflect attacks. Later in the game (much later), I would recommend Gauntlets of Hill Giant Strength, which boost your STR stat to 23. You won't get them until you reach the House of Hope in Act 3.
For boots: Early on I would recommend either the Linebreaker Boots (found in the Worg Pens at the Shattered Sanctum in Act 1) or Boots of Speed (from Thulla in Myconid Colony in Act 1) - they both fit for Aragorn's build. Later on, I would recommend the Bonespike Boots (Rivington in Act 3) - very appropriate for the build.
For helmets: Unfortunately the only crown-like (circlet) helmets I found that kind of go with the build are the Arcane Circlet (Uncommon) found in Moonrise Towers Prison in Act 2 and the Scabby Pugilist Circlet (rare) found in Act 3 Rivington. You're better off using helmets. The best fit would be the Helm of Balduran (legendary), but you won't get that until Act 3 in the Dragon's Sanctum.
@@GeekEKittenGaming thank you very much 🙏😁
@@vincenthamelin5511 no problem!
Any chance for a Jon Snow build?
I'll add him to the list. There will be more polls in the future to determine the interest level in requested builds.
Can role play the dark urge as the “madness”. Also curious if you go the ranger route which resistance would be more appropriate ice or fire or poison
Ranger knight... You get heavy armor proficiency at lvl 1 as ranger maybe lvl 2
(Edited) Yes, and that was considered for the build, but ultimately it was decided that there were better options out of the favored enemies.
He is a Durordi (sp?) technically he's a half elf.
The half elven ancestry of Aragorns lineage is so many generations removed that Aragorn is considered a human.
What's an Aragorn?
Just the sexiest fantasy character of all time time...no biggie lol XD
Ranger can start with heavy armor...
IF you take "Ranger Knight" as your Favored Enemy, which I explained in the video why I didn't. Please see this page on the BG3 Ranger: baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Ranger
I would of gone half elf 🧝
I understand why - there's an argument for both!