A Bandsaw Sled Like No Other // Resawing, Crosscutting: I've Never Had This MUCH Control Before!
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- čas přidán 19. 10. 2019
- For years cutting cylindrical things (be it length wise or crosscutting) was a daunting task for me. I've twisted blades and damaged projects thinking I could keep my stock from being yanked and torn from my hands by the bandsaw blade. This thing is a game changer now! Not only can I now cut dowels of any sizes, I can safely cut rounded logs in half easily, shape square or off balanced stock that'll go on my lathe...with so much more future potential!
Material and Tool list (some):
(2) 4" x 6" x 3/4" pieces of wood.
(2) 1/4" t-nuts
(2) 1/4" x 3/4" Flat countersink bolts
1/2" dowels
10-24 Knurled nut ... amzn.to/32B9Xci
10-24 bolts ... amzn.to/2BzrYMh
Cast iron drill press vice ... amzn.to/2L0vpRA
Knobs you can buy ... amzn.to/2L2KIJH
Knobs you can make ... www.instructables.com/id/Stup...
Contractor's square ... amzn.to/2qCQ0DX
1/4" brad point bit ... amzn.to/2W2NySS
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Music Attribs:
Music from filmmusic.io
"Sovereign" by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (creativecommons.org/licenses/b...) - Jak na to + styl
Some really rough dimensions here if you're interested. I made them out for someone else that was interested and decided to share it for all to see. Again, just a few dimensions.
imgur.com/a/cY9bON9
It's all in those funny things that I used in my childhood, before the UK went metric, called inches!😉
Yep, we love inches here. I’d kill to use the metric system 🤷♂️
@@MakeThings I'll let you in on a little known fact, If you want to use the Metric system you can. No killing required.
Yep...accept I alienate most of my audience. I’ve used the metric system on projects before and loved it...but I’d hate to have to balance that and the imperial system during a project.
@@MakeThings
The tape measures, and steel rules, that I buy from the UK, are marked in both metric, and imperial dimensions, so I can work in either, or sometime both, whichever is the most convenient. Frequently, I use the inch measurements for checking long boards, as the numbers are bigger and easier to see, in poor light. Other times when working in metric, an inch measurement will be on an exact line whereas the metric lands in between, so I use the inch.😊 (I'm also relatively ambidextrous.)
In addition, when dividing, inches are often easier, just double the denominator to halve, quadruple to quarter etc. Whereas with metric one quickly ends up with fractions of a millimetre, which is inconvenient.
Horses for courses!
Long grain to long grain miter is very strong. Possibly stronger than a box joint in this application because there are no cuts across the long grains of the wood causing weak spots. Glue in this specific edge to edge miter is certainly stronger than the wood itself. There's no need for splines. It's end grain miter joints that benefit from reinforcement
The updated one is great. Nice work
10/24/2019 USA Grandpa Bill: Rob, I subscribed based simply on this one video. I was a professional woodworker in a mill where we made commercially arched and round windows, massive ornate doors to restaurants, cupolas, and many other fascinating things. Your video is refreshingly clear, concise, and well-produced, ranging from your selection of views to the number of words and pauses. Good scripting. You have a good voice and you bring high quality to CZcams. I'm glad you're here.
By and far the best, most appreciated comment I have ever received in the 1 1/2 years I’ve been doing this. I shared it with my family it was so good. Thank you so much...it makes the many rotten comments I get easier to digest.
I love your content making your shop jigs into works of art ! Thank you for sharing!!
Thanks Keith, that means a lot man!
This is great. I will have to watch it a few more times to get it down completely. I've had to cut so many raw pieces of wood down trying to get something that will work for the lathe and holding a round piece is tricky. Thank you so very much.
Just bought a brand new Jet 10" bandsaw this is the best thing I could build for it. Thank you
You are really a master at making jigs. Never ceases to amaze me by the level of deep thought that goes into each design. Thank you so much for being such a fine teacher.
Jabulani, that is the highest of compliments to be called a teacher. Thanks man!
An outstanding video. I really like that you show your thought process in revising your initial design. You have inspired me to purchase a band saw and get to some serious woodworking. Thanks again.
Wow, thanks! Inspirational is the highest of compliments! Bandsaws are so much fun and extremely versatile, send me an email of a project!
Excellent video and process
Thank you for sharing
Another great jig Rob. I keep archiving your ideas for the future when I’ll need one of your jigs for a project. I’m also impressed that you’re also making them too look good. That’s something that I enjoy doing with things I make for my shop. My philosophy is that good looking things make using them more pleasurable. BTW - I have a shop update due to be released today or tomorrow and I mention you in the video.
Oh wow! I can't wait!
I've been having this thought a lot in the back of my head about woodpecker products selling as well as they do. Don't get me wrong, they make some good products, but some of those products are a bit overpriced but sell, I think, because they're just so beautiful. If I can convince people to sink some time and a little bit of money into their jigs, I know that they'll enjoy their time in the shop that much more. I know I do.
Thanks Don for all the good words...it means a lot.
Very impressive. Great detail.
Great work Rob! That turned out very nice :) Thank you for sharing it with us.👍👌😎JP
Thanks JP!
Your very welcome Rob! Have a great week!😎
Game changer, right there. Nice job, sir.
I like this idea Rob! I'll add it to the never ending to do list!
I'll join you.
Thanks Grant!
Nice jig! It reminds me of one that I made a few years ago, except mine was dedicated to splitting cylinders and incorporated a hacksaw blade as a splitter on the outfeed side. I found that sometimes there was tension bound up in branches and that they would close up the gap and bind on the blade. The splitte r also helped prevent the workpiece from twisting, ensuring a straight cut.
That’s an excellent idea! I’d like to use that but will give you credit for it, may I?
Just as I'm going to set up my new bandsaw.
Thank You Sir!
Nice Video! I'm just starting on the bandsaw and hoping to cut up some logs. I'm going to look into a sled thanks to this video! Thanks for sharing!
Very creative. Nicely done.
Many thanks for your video! I'm learning ALL the time!👍🤝
Not just a finr jig but lots of excellent buildimg tips. And a rooster, I mean it can't get ant better than this...until your nect vid of course. Great job Rob, thanks mate.
Haha, thanks Mark! Yeah, that rooster always seems to try to work his way onto film...he's a good crower, just at the wrong times haha
I hope you're enjoying your time off!
That is a fantastic idea Rob! You never cease to amaze me with your jigs and fixtures! Great job friend!!
Thanks Kevin!
It certainly makes those cuts more repeatable and accurate! Not to mention how much safer they are to make. I'm surprised that I've not seen anything like that on a shelf in a woodworking store. it would sell. Congrats and well done.
Thank you!
Buddy, your unique intros are a testament to your creative genius.
Bravo!
I am glad I have subscribed to your channel!
Keep up your great stuff please 👌🏼😁👍🏼
I never get responses to the intros...that means so much to me! Thank you!
I honestly thought that so many people would be mentioning it to you, that you would be rolling your eyes at my comment 😅👍🏼
But really, no matter how simple or intricate, so far, all your intros have been unique. I love the creativity in them *all* !
Now that is one amazing bandsaw jig Rob! Very nice work indeed................... :)
Thanks Steve, I appreciate it!
I LOVE the decent background music. And of course the project. Subbed.
Thanks man 👊
what was that very peaceful background music please?
I wish I'd seen this two years ago. Thanks for the solid video.
My pleasure 👊
Looks very good again and super handy!!!
Thanks both of you!
Nice job and very safe. I was thinking about making one for my band saw. You gave me some good ideas. Thank you.
Thanks Richard. If I can inspire, I’ve done more than I ever intended. This means a lot to me.
Very innovative. Good job.
Great idea, the thin bandsaw is so much more accurate and less waste material. It almost looks like a small milling machine
It feels like one too! Thanks Remi.
Simple yet elegant you got a new subcriber i just leave this little guy !;-)
Really cool sled/jig, Rob!
Billy
Thanks Billy, appreciate that coming from you my man!
That is a great idea! + Great build! = Subscribed!
Great job, Rob!
Ari, buddy, I've missed you! Thanks man!
@@MakeThings Yeah, bit of a hiatus going on atm. Hope I'll get something done soon.
Nice one Rob! And now I know where the "cookie" went! :-)
Haha, and why I couldn't eat it either! I'm so glad to see you more and more Daniel...video coming soon? I can dream buddy! 😜
Great looking Jig! I like how you explain why it is so important for something like this. I don't have a band saw but the table saw is very similar in respect to the material flying out of your hand if it isn't secured properly to a jig like this.
Thanks Zac! I agree, jigs don’t always have to be about making things look better or extending abilities from a machine but can help save a finger or two.
Really nice jig...I need this!
Second incarnation was nice, I like the adjustability of it 👍👍👍
Thanks Sumo. Maybe you can get your hapless shop guest to make one for you! 😂
Good video, thanks for advices! :)
I learned about splines, saw your great push block before 25% of the video. Great! I hope you teach others. Godspeed
That’s the goal! If I can inspire others to create and use their talents, this entire CZcams thing will be worth it.
Thank you for the feedback...I love it!
TY , Love the jig !
Thanks Robert!
Nice. I'm going to try that one.
A truly ingenious solution to having work snatched from our hands, Im sure we've all done it. You should get a patent on this my friend before Rockler steal it. Of course now we have seen yours, I think we will all be stealing it, its a great jig.
Please, steal away! Just do me a favor and let me know how it works for you. I hate the idea of losing an idea to be a big company but feel like I owe so much to this community that has made me a better woodworker!
Quality Doweling!
great idea!
Now many speedsquares does this guy own haha
Thanks for sharing. 👍
Great idea makes working at the bandsaw easier
Thanks Ralph! It does make things easier!
This is a very helpful video
That's creative. I have a Agazanni with a fence that tilts and a push fence that swivels. You could make a fence yourself to always have a 90 degree to avoid problems. Always best to have safety first and not risk injury! Good ideas and solutions you have!
Thanks, I appreciate it!
I am jealouse!! My bandsaw blade wanders so much, I cant expect to be able to do what you show here...
There are many videos on CZcams explaining how to properly set up a bandsaw. Check out Alex Snodgrass. Proper setup eliminates drift issues!
10:30 Threaded inserts would have been a better choice than T-Nuts. T-Nuts are meant to be on the backside of the wood, not the front side. It will work since you used epoxy, but please reconsider for future projects.
Nice work Rob. I have ruined a few blades trying to freehand some of those cuts. Your jig would make these ops much safer
Thank you for confirming this problem. I hadn't heard much of the problem from anyone else...but I literally second guess some of the things I do on the bandsaw because of how rapidly things can go southward, and fast, even when you think you've got a good grip. Thanks Dave.
awesome video, thanks
Thanks Maryke!
Great build.
Thanks Mike
Added to the list of jigs I really need to make!!
I don't know how this video got even 1 negative mark much less 68. I guess haters are every where.Great video and even better jig.
Robert...I know what you mean. If someone wants to leave me a bad mark, I’m okay with it so long as they tell me why!
Very much loved your comment.
Brilliant
this was cool
I like this jig. From the beginning I thought why isn't he making it from Maple, Walnut, Cherry or Mahogany? Then at the end you saved the day. Bravo!
I will make one with an even longer outflow support for safer ripping.
JIM
Haha, thanks Jim. I think it's a good idea to make a longer bed...I mean, it can't hurt, right? If you make it long enough it would save you from reaching past the blade altogether.
T-nuts are used from the opposite side, to be pulled instead of pushed into the material. Use threaded inserts instead.
I’ve made the mistake, as well. The band saw picked up the piece and slammed it down so hard and fast, I didn’t even know what happened. My fingers were lucky.
This is a very useful, very nice jig.
Thanks, and yeah, bandsaws are normally very safe machines. We forget the physics and the downward motion that they run that will take anything not secured well enough to the table.
Great ideal 👍
Thank you!
I needed this. I turn tops and use the bandsaw to slice cylinders off turned limbs to glue on dowels. I bent a blade yesterday when one of them got snatched out of my hand. I was using a miter pushing a v-ed out 2 x 4. This is a much better solution but I don't think mine will be as fancy as yours.
I get people looking at me funny when I tell them how dangerous cutting round things can be. I’ve had the same blade bending situation more than once...and it scares the crap out of you!
dam... you really flexing the jigs made from walnut and curly maple.
Great stuff Rob 😊 I've messed once with an unsupported piece. It will never happen again 😁 This jig could adapted so the bed travels laterally to some degree for removing a set amount from the edge of square stock and I'm sure you could even make close enough large dowels on it 😊 ॐ
Chris, this is exactly what I was thinking. I really think the idea has a lot of unexplored potential with jigs that can be added to it. There's one idea I was really itching to put in that I'll make a video about in the future.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has made an "oops" with bandsaws. They're billed as one of the most safest machines in the shop but can be very dangerous in this regard.
I've used bandsaws for more than 30 years and only ever cut flat boards. A couple of years ago I thought I would cross cut a small log in prep for woodturning and yes I needed to change my pants 😂 not to mention the blade that broke and jumped off the tyres while still spinning. Your jig is superb as always and a knowledge of these simple dangers is really important. Everyone talks about table saw kickback, but every machine has a different temperament and danger that many are unaware of. Thank you Rob 😊 ॐ
No, honestly, thank you Chris. This kind of feedback is incredibly important. Thank you my friend.
"Hot glue works just as well"!?!? What is with this guy 🤣😄🤣😄
Ah common now. Be nice.
Dang nice jig, dude. SUB'd
Thanks Thomas!
Make things, this shows you why I subscribed to your channel. I loved this jig so much I just had to save it with the images. The funny part? I don't have a bandsaw! Not that I don't want one, I just don't have the money for one. I can't even do something to make any extra money because I am disabled and my disability is getting worse. In about 2 or 3 more years I may be in a wheelchair. :(
Age sucks! I took care of my grandpa in his final years and I know how bad it can be. Keep an upper lip and don’t let it bring you down my friend. Be stronger than what you’re fighting, no matter how bad it gets and find something you can do with your hands. Using your hands to do leatherwork or simple carvings will make you feel a hundred times taller.
I love seeing you in my comments...thanks for the positive vibes you give me, every time!!
Impressive design
Thanks man 👊
Nice! Id build that on a sled you could change parts out on. The fingering joint was nice but very weak, would be better to put joint. I have a baby 8" wheeler. Going to do one for mine Thanks!❤
Very nice! You may want to figure in another jig like it to set on the back side to catch your material so you won't have to reach back as much to hold it up. In fact, you can put a slot in the front part so your blade can sit inside then you can lock your back half piece to your front half and you have one unit with the blade in the middle of it all.
I like that. Like use a couple box hasp latches. Very interesting idea...I'll give it a try and throw you a shoutout!
Kickin.
Wow, that is an awesome band-saw sled! Exceptionally functional & appealing to the eye too, very well done sir...
Bill on the Hill,
Vermont, USA... :~)
Thanks Bill!
1st time viewing your work. I'm quite impressed and the tutorial of steps is done Just as impressive.
Thanks Doug. I really try hard to make sure anyone can make the things I create. This is such a fantastic hobby that connects the world. Thanks for your comments.
I'll take a walnut and cheddar on rye, sliced nice and thin, please.
This looks seriously great!
Coming right up with a side of thinly sliced kettle chips!
*ding ding*
Thanks Sharon!
Nice
I really like the design. You mentioned that some improvements might be made. If I had one suggestion it would be a matching sled for outfeed to help steady your piece and prevent the possibility of racking your cut as you draw it through. But overall, I think this is a really great build. Thanks for the idea.
Thank you. And yeah, someone else said something similar. I think using latch hasps would do the trick.
@@MakeThings Even if you just use a miter slider that you can tighten down, or a switchable magnet, I think it would work well. Frankly, even a flat support at the same height would provide the stability needed. But I really do love this design and have every intention of building one.
I needed one of these today when I cut the corners off my awl blank. 😃 Instead I used one of your favorite clamps. 😂 Video coming sometime fairly soon.
I can't wait!
And ohhh, I know what clamp you're talking about haha. That would actually work very well!
@@MakeThings Rob, you’ll see how the clamp works in an upcoming Short once I find time to do the edit and upload.
You have made a feed table, now you need an exact receiving table on the other side of blade
Thanks for sharing good tips.
For your safety the pieces should be longer when cut them in the tablesaw. There should be a "knife" mounted after the blade to hold the pieces apart and to reduce friction between the blade and the wood and to hold it down. There should also be a proctection hood over the blade that also helps holding the piece of wood down to the table if the blade wants to lift the piece. No knife, no hood and a short piece of wood is dangerous and an accident waiting to happen.
1. The piece won’t lift. The blade pushes down not up.
2. A splitter is not necessary unless you’re suggesting every board cut with a bandsaw needs one.
3. As for length, I’m not entirely sure what you mean. As a board gets longer it becomes more difficult to work with.
Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it Sven! Happy holidays buddy!
I think a big 8" diameter pvc or sonotube would make a nice sled. Great idea!
Thanks!
Nice.
bravo 👍👍👍
Have you considered a second support for the other side of the blade removable for when you are cutting across tubes?
I think this is an excellent thought. It would take a little setting up to make it precise, but it would definitely be worth it.
Just what I've been looking for. Thank you! Is it possible to get a working drawing of this bandsaw sled?
Thank you! It might be an instructable...but it wouldn’t be for a while.
Hey Tom, I've got some rough sketches here, let me know if this helps.
imgur.com/a/cY9bON9
wow!
ottimo lavoro
Grazie amico mio!
Thanks
Thanks Steve.
I’m an amateur woodworker, and I like to use logs. One of my guitar students just gave me his late father in law’s old Craftsman 12” band saw. I’m so excited to try it out! Any chance I could purchase one of those jigs from you?
Nice work man, I don't have a working bandsaw ... one day.
I'm sure you're just rolling your eyes at me having 2 of them 😂
You're free to come use mine any time you want. 😜
@@MakeThings yeah rolling eyes at you and Sumo both brother. 😵
Haha
nice looking sled! i wonder if a second, slightly lower resting, sled could be used as an outfeed table(sled?)?
Yep, there’s a part 2 and they will be addressed. Thanks for mentioning it though, let’s me know what other’s would like to see.
another beautiful and use full jig
At the 6:44 mark, I see a wobbly drill bit being used. My father always taught me little tricks for wood working, and one of them involves taking your drill bit and drilling at high speed into the end grain of some hardwood, and then lightly (And I mean Lightly) bend the drill just slightly to the side. I have straightened many a bit with this technique.
Thanks for the tip! I’ll have to give it a try...I’m always in the market for ways to not have to buy new things.
Just a thought here but make an out feed table like the jig and you won't have to reach thru to hold the cut wood. Great jig though I'm going to work on one this weekend.
That’s a good idea, thanks!
Because it looks like the wobble is half way down the bit, just drill in maybe two thirds of the way, and see if that does not do for ya. For regular 4-6" bits, I have saved myself a LOT of buckos.
That’s the path I want to take. I got my brad point bits in a 150 assortment and have never needed bits because of it. Now I just need to keep them straight. Thanks again Larry.
Seems to me that if you make two of these one can be shorter to cross cut and then for ripping lengths of wood you could make it several feet long and have even more support both on the input an output sides. Also by making it longer you could use more V supports if you make them deeper they would support the two sides and it wouldn’t matter what joint you use for the two boards that are glued up at ninety degrees.
This reminds me of the old V blocks I would use to cut round stock only on a larger scale. Definitely need to make some though they are a definite upgrade and more versatile then cutting a 6 inch to 12 inch 2 x 4 lengthwise at 45° and attaching them to a thin piece of plywood or hardboard to make the V blocks I used to use.
I think you make some good points. As for the joint, it was an overkill. I love making finger joints, but a plain old 45 cut on two boards glued together would have been better.
Nicely make beautiful jigs but I think an overly complicated solution to a simple problem. My cross cut jig is a solid block of wood 4" by 4"with a 3'V cut into the top. the runner is screwed on at 90 deg. My longitudinal jig is a cross cut sled with two 4' triangular blocks screwed to the ply wood base on either side of the slot. The wood being cut lengthwise is supported along the length of the cut, and pushed through by the end stop on the sled. I can easily cut an 11" dia log with this jig. no screws no bolts no fancy joints, strong and durable.
Maybe, but just out of curiosity, do you think the woodpecker tools are worth the extremely high costs?
Like the green square
Isn’t it cute! I love the colored tools...you should see my harbor freight maroon level!