How Beginning Filmmakers Can Compete With Hollywood - Chris Gore
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- Chris Gore is a writer, comedian, author and television personality who has built a solid reputation as a hilariously outspoken voice in the entertainment world. As a teenager, Chris founded the brutally honest magazine Film Threat, which began as a fanzine while he was a college student in Detroit. As Film Threat evolved into a respected national magazine, he relocated to Los Angeles. The print magazine was retired in 1997 when it was re-launched as a web site. FilmThreat.com found a huge audience online and was named one of the top five movie web sites by the Wall Street Journal. Chris has appeared as a film expert on MSNBC, E!, CNN, Travel Channel, and Reelz Channel. Chis has also hosted shows on FX, Starz, IFC and G4TV’s Attack of the Show as the show’s film expert. His weekly movie review segment DVDuesday was among the most popular on G4. Chris is also an author, having written The 50 Greatest Movies Never Made and The Complete DVD Book. His book The Ultimate Film Festival Survival Guide is considered the bible of the industry and is required reading at film school.
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As a composer, I encourage filmmakers to view instrumental music as another character. Not all information needs to be conveyed through dialogue or lyrics, and allowing underscore to guide the audience is one of your most effective tools in storytelling.
AGREED! Score is EVERYTHING.
That's so true. Music is such an inherently visual expression. It creates visual images just from the between music and emotion.
Tempo, bass sounds, majestic sounds like the trumpet (as well as deep sorrow. That's why the trumpet is my favorite instrument when it comes to conveying a visual mood).
It's one of the reasons Steve Sabol was so good with his NFL Films. He knew about how essential music was to film making.
Amen !
And they say life would be better if it had background music. And they're right.
*EVERY TIME* I've watched this guy I AGREE WHOLE-HEARTEDLY with him. Thank you for interviewing him and sharing this with us!!!
Thanks for watching!
He has his own channel also, widely recommended, Film Threat. He speaks about all this topics plus a lot of movie reviews in there.
@@serroche Dude! *Thank you* - I would’ve never known!
John Wick is the perfect example. One of the best scenes was the father telling his son about Wick. It was great and it only showed him digging up his basement while the father talked about him. He is the one you send to kill the boogeyman. Very good point.
and then they go and ruin it by making more movies and now turns into a fast and furious ridiculous...
with a fucking pencil.
that right there. Didn't need to see it.
That whole movie was an amazing example. We got sold the idea that there is an assassin underworld with set rules and customs (their hotel, the coin currency, the council etc), but only examples are shown. We see a very small slice of a bigger scene. Then of course they ruin this mistery by milking it for sequels, but that doesn't make the first one any less entertaining.
@@OliverHollingdale The sequels were entertaining.
We Chris Gore speaks, you listen.There’s an old saying Less is more
That’s certainly why many older and particularly less advanced movies are even easier to enjoy nowadays.
It's not enough to watch his interviews once. His cogent point that small budget films can add more to their universe with small references is beautiful and poignant.
He's one of the very few people who can criticize the industry and actually provide valid counter ideas
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I saw Star Wars as a kid in 1977 and one thing I actually did love about it back then is that so much was unexplained like he said. Even who Darth Vader was or WHAT he was. As a kid, I never thought there was a 'human' under the mask. I didn't think the stormtroopers were 'human' under the armour either. Even hearing things like 'spice mines of Kessel' or 'the Kessel run'. You wondered what that was. NOW they beat that stuff into the ground.
I think this is why I'm all 'Star Wars'd' out these days. I just don't really care because they're exploring EVERYTHING and ruining its MYSTIQUE. For me, it's too much. I guess being a fan and living with it for 45 years doesn't help.
It isn't just Star Wars either. John Carpenter even said he didn't like Rob Zombie's Halloween because it took away the 'mystique' of Michael Myers. I thought the same even before I heard him say that. Same case with Black Christmas and 'Billie'. I'd rather not know more about them. It keeps it more interesting.
It was one of the fun things about being a young kid in the 70's. There was just less of everything and a whole lot more MYSTIQUE, which has completely disappeared these days. Today everything has to be shown and beaten into the ground.
The ability to create planets is insignificant next to the power of imagination.
This is a wonderful comment. I am a film director about to shoot my first film this November. We are currently scouting locations. It's a zombie horror movie. Any tips? i always thought never explain why a zombie outbreak happens. The audience relates to the cluelessness of the characters onscreen. That's the ride.....what would they do?
@@playstationaccount4473 I personally would just allude to what the cause be. Give a theory maybe. It's always interesting to ponder about why something like that is happening, but not be given a straight answer. I wouldn't have a scene where characters discuss theories for too long either, beating the audience over the head about what the cause may be. The grandfather of zombie movies George Romero did it right. He threw in a possible cause very briefly that it may be radiation from a space probe in Night of the Living Dead, then left it alone from there. I don't think it's ever confirmed as the cause or even brought back up again even in the sequels. That's how I would do it.
best comment I read in days. Its the truth and I can very much relate.
I agree. I think there is far more power in leaving some things unexplained. But which things? I think you need to resolve the protagonist's character arc and you need to resolve the thematic arc. Within the story itself of course the progress of the story should mostly be a sequence of cause and effect events triggered by the protagonist's response to a problem. We need enough information to understand the problem, the stakes and how (generally) the character's action relates to those things. Beyond that I think a lot can (and often should) be left open to the audience to interpret for themselves.
That gives the audience something to keep thinking and talking about after the film is over- there is a sense of satisfaction because the character & thematic stories are complete, but there is also a sense of ongoing curiosity (mystique) because you don't have all the answers. World-building is definitely an area that can be left not fully explained.
I think it's similar to a magic trick. Magic tricks are compelling because we get a satisfying conclusion- the reveal of the trick- but we don't know how it was done. We walk out of a magic show asking each other "how did they do that?". If, after every magic trick, the magician explained how the trick was done, there would be no sense of magic whatsoever.
I swear the scariest movies I've ever seen was The Blair Witch Project. Everything in that movie was conveyed through the actors; no sfx needed, just my imagination.
It could be supernatural or someone just messing with them.
Exactly. Was a chilling movie in the theatre and spawned an entire genre that unfortunately never achieved its heights.
This was one of the most boring films I've ever seen. Exactly because of the reason you mentioned nothing ever happens.
@@sonicsnake44 How old are you and when did you see it?
@@sonicsnake44 The movie worked better in 99 when it was cleverly marketed as legitimate footage. When people's attention spans weren't destroyed by social media and instant gratification. If your just watching it today after the found footage genre has been ran into the ground then your opinion really doesn't matter. At the time it was completely fresh and your imagination ran wild.
One of the best examples of what Chris is saying is in the Bladerunner. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.....we all know the rest of that legendary monologue :)
The Evil Dead films are fun and creative. You can tell that the director is a madman who wants to take you on a rollercoaster ride. At the same time, he is taking risks by introducing his insanity and imagination on the big screen.
I almost forgot about House (1977). Now that's a film that took risks and gave us something unique or bizarre.
The only problem there is that it caused a shitton of legal troubles for him and prevented a lot of foreign distribution. At least with the first one. You run the risk of pissing off people who have the ability to shut you out of markets entirely and possibly even come after you.
@@chrisd7733 The film was banned in the UK along with several other "Video Nasties" that the blue rinse brigades got their panties in a bunch over. If I remember right, he actually had to go overseas to testify but was dismissed eventually. So it was potentially serious.
It's great to hear Mr. Gore speak candidly about how to succeed among the challenging realities. By the way, our first trailer is up and we gave a Special Thanks to Film Courage in our feature RENT-A-MAN's credits, because your channel is very inspirational, encouraging and educational for filmmakers. A big thank you!!
Congrats on your first feature! Please link up the trailer here.
He doesn't know a damn thing about any of that.
@@HTHAMMACK1 sure you do, show me what you got instead of just criticizing
When Chris Gore speaks, you listen.
He made a very good point on how being able to do anything in the movies nowadays can be self-defeating when audiences in certain ways prefer to be left to their own imagination.
Lmfao.. i love this channel. And seeing number of views comments and likes explode when this man talks is wonderful.
Thanks for everything guys!!
Jaws is a good example too. So much of the shark wasn't seen. A lot of p.o.v. shots of the shark leaving you to imagine the shark swimming up on unsuspecting people. Part of that was due to the mechanical shark not working, but it was very effective. The movie is nearly half over before you get a good look at the shark opening it's mouth to bite down on someone's leg and to this day it gives me shivers.
Did you know the reason they did it in jaws is because the shark puppet kept breaking down so Spielberg said "screw it, we ll shoot it without the shark".
Yes, I mention it in my original comment.
boring movie if I ever saw one.
Just a bunch of talking and not enough sharks and killin'
On the flip side, when Godzilla (2014) did this it wasn't anywhere near as well executed and you ended up wanting to see the scenes where he showed up to destroy stuff and fight the M.U.T.Os because the human characters, aside from Bryan Cranston, were boring as hell.
The bottom line is to have enough human characters that are interesting if you're going to apply the less is more principle or else you'll just end up with a bland movie.
Not to mention the legendary score by John Williams building the tension and representing the shark when it couldn't be shown.
Too much information: audience gets bored.
Too little information: audience gets confused.
Engagement lies in the middle.
Totally agree with the Star Wars example about the council simply talking about the Senate and the Emperor. What made it work is that the characters were talking about those subjects as if they were normal to them. It wasn't one character explaining to another character information that every character in that room already knows just so the audience can get that information too. That scene was very well done in terms of giving us just enough information to allow us to paint a picture for ourselves, but not so much information that it feels spoon fed.
Like when you have two people that are experts in their shared field explain something basic to each other that they'd already know. They might as well break the fourth wall, 'pause' the film and turn to the audience, Ferris Bueller style.
Using an audience’s imagination and not showing everything is admirable advice. Worked wonders literally for 2001: A Space Odyssey and also for The Quiet Earth. Thank you, Chris.
It also worked for the original 1968 version of NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD,when the film's main hero Ben explains about the explosion he saw at the diner he was eating at the minute the zombie apocalypse began to happen as that very scene is still strongly effective(without it happening on-screen[and on film]).
@@stevenmillan9220 Indeed and Duane Jones’ dialogue as Ben for that scene is timeless.
Have you seen the number of people complaining about 2001 being "slow"?
There is no monster shown on screen that is scarier than what each person in the audience can conjure in their own imagination.
@@G360LIVE Well said and quite true.
This is such great advice. An element of mystery is so important. This made me think of how the characters in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" talk about the Ark of the Covenant. Before you even see it, you know just by the way they discuss it that this is a mighty, mysterious object that should not be messed with.
Chris Gore, don't kid yourself. You look great on camera! Come star in my next film!
show, don't tell and never forget the core of moviemaking: It needs to be entertaining.
Something I've noticed happening more frequently, and called out to death by cinema sins, is when something is brought up in a flashback or exposition or happening off to the side in glimpses that would've made a MUCH MORE INTERESTING MOVIE than the one I'm watching.
This guy is giving great sound advice.
It’s about guiding the audience to emotional investment but is left open ended enough so one’s imagination is the hammer & the idea is the nail.
No amount of CGI can compete with imagination, especially with clever story telling & emotional investment. That’s why modern movies although sometimes good are forgettable.
🎥 Great interview as always 🎬
Thanks for watching!
The problem is James Grey already commented on how audiences are not open to challenging work because they've been inculcated to prefer cinematic junk food and wouldn't have the palate for something special. EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE largely succeeded because it had kung fu in it. Without the kung fu I think most people wouldn't have appreciated the headier aspects of it.
"Compete when ideas, and then those ideas will be ripped off by Hollywood because that's how that cycle works." Most people can't comprehend this even if you slap them in the face with it. This is why this guy is 100%. I really take stock in this interviews on Film Courage. He's right in what he saying about Hollywood. It's the same with any big media machine.
A modern Hollywood movie would cut to scenes of the “Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium... And riding on the back decks of a blinker and watching C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate…”
Instead of letting the last words of Roy convey everything.
It was this channel that introduced me to Chris Gore, and I've loved every conversation with him. A man whose experience has made him pragmatic, yet still is inspiring to those trying to come up in the industry.
Here's the thing if you want to shoot something just do it. What do you have to lose? You'll be in the same position you're currently in if you fail.
Great video!!
These interviews ARE GOLDEN!!!. So enjoyable. and Chris is excellent at explaining deep and important concepts,...and he always quotes Star Wars,...how could we not love it!!! :-D
I think 3d animation will be great for indie film. No worrying about green screen. No worry about "does it look out of place" does the lighting match. In 3d animation you can let your imaginarion run wilde and keep costs super low. That is one way to compete with hollywood
EbSynth also, you can effectively play every character then just ADR with actors.
@@m62curates Which is what I plan to do
Such great points in this video.
I wish I could like this 50 times so so much good advice 🔥🔥🔥
This is what I been saying!!! Us indie filmmakers are starting to bringing the heat.
My boiii Chris Gore always delivering great insight on filmmaking and the industry. Great video as usual.
Next example is the scene from predator when Arnold and his team finds the remains of the green berets. Yes they can say that there was a firefight but several men just vanished. And there just in those few minutes of film you have so much you can discuss think imagine what happened there. Today either you can see everything or someone explains you everything. I don't want this i want the mystery.
Some great points!
spot on!
Great advice
This guy has the most middle brow taste and mindset when it comes to cinema. Why he’s propped up as some kind of guru is totally beyond me.
I agree he doesn’t have much of an insight. He’s like if the starwars fanbase was a person. He doesn’t have any new or original ideas.
Just a starwars nerd, like a lot of “film nerds” on YT. He’s popular cause so many people relate to him.
Ahhh, now you're talking. That technique of painting a large -- and often bloody -- canvas through dialogue rather than fx goes back to Aeschylus (probably earlier still) carries through to Shakespeare up to today (as in, Tarantino's Reservoir Dogs diner scene). Done well, it's immensely satisfying.
He is wrong about the Galactic Senate in Star Wars. That was one of the cooler things about the prequels brought to life, a Senate full of representatives on every planet in the galaxy. I get the "trade route dispute" getting mocked, but the Senate and Coruscant were very cool to see.
‘Cool to see’… is what is killing Hollywood movies.
@@rrwholloway lol that came out in 99. If the phantom menace killed hollywood it has been dead for a long time.. And top gun was "cool to see" and is the top box office movie of the year.
So, to accomplish success with a microbudget film, utilizing the audience's imagination can be "tell don't show" sometimes? I love this. It opens up so much for me because I love dynamic dialogue to twist and move a film forward. I can do that with two actors anywhere. Almost like exciting thought-inducing theater, with a 4K camera, and tiny budget.
Excellent advice here.
Chris Gore is a speaker of truth. He's right on.
Simple, let character development and story telling (basically entertainment) be your goal. That alone will make near anything as welcome as an oasis in the midst of a desert.
This is brilliant!! “Let the audience use their imagination” but we’re constantly told “show - don’t tell”
Pushing the boundaries and being daring is always the way to go.
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Thank you Santiago! We appreciate you giving back and supporting this channel! Great to see you finding inspiration in this message from Chris Gore.
This is and was powerful. It requires being fearless. Quintin Tarantino said; and I have taken it to heart - write the movie you want to see. Both tips require fearlessness. Thank you for this interview. Short and sweet.
facts. I wish more creators would use practical effects more. miniatures and make up fx and what not.
Everything Everywhere All at Once. 25 million dollar budget 5 person vfx team. Wild ideas and a fresh amazing vision.
Hollywood seems to have forgotten the Hero’s Journey which was a major inspiration to the Star Wars franchise and so many films from the eighties as well as nineties. Which is why these movies continue to fail at the box office.
We want more of Gore!!!
As a hard-core game nerd it’s always fun to hear the hard-core movie nerd talk about his area of expertise
Hey Chris! Will you make an appearence on the new G4?
I love the Gore interviews, he's awesome
"Use the audiences imagination" Chris is 100% correct with this statement. This is why Boba Fett was cool, calm collective and mysterious in Empire and Jedi and a completely dull, boring letdown in the book of dadbod fett. The folks at D+ really expect their viewers/subscribers to be completely brainless masses that need to be told everything that's going on in a movie/show. Ya know, cause thinking is to much work this day in age.
I can't wait for the Star Wars show telling us all about the people who manufactured his pants!
I officially love this guy. He's not negative he's just raw and direct. Any time I see another upload with him-- *INSTANT CLICK!*
How can you do a pitch in order to get a licence from a video game company? I have a dream of actually doing a horror film about this game, but I don’t know where to start
I'm glad this topic is brought up. But is it just the big studio system that falls into this problem? .Or is it "fans" of an IP and/or aspiring (or even some pro) scribes too? I lost count of how many "fans" salivate over an IP's prequel story that explores those throwaway lines and character's backstories (like Star Wars or Star Trek) . "Cool!" "Sounds interesting!" "I always wanted to see that!" is what I usually hear. and then such film is made and ...thud. We aren't giving new information, we rehash old information. It kills imagination ad film discussions. And of course, not every 'fan 'of that IP wanted to see the definitive answers to all those bits of backstory
A few weeks ago in a screenwriting forum, one person missed the entire definition of show don't tell, where they pointed to Quint's USS Indianapolis monologue as an example of 'telling not showing' (no joke) "wouldn't it be better just to show it?" That person was promptly corrected and shown the err of their ways.( "What do you want, a flashback in the middle of a tense scene?") But it got me thinking. Why do some new writers think we "need to see/show" backstories of characters who mention such past in moments of dialogue? Why do some writers pitch studios with a premise that explores those backstories and/or throwaway lines?
Yes the Star Wars lines about the Emperor and when Kenobi mentioned the Clone Wars..the one that got me was in Se7en..the "lust" murder, you got a few snapshots of what happened but were forced to imagine what happened..very clever..and unnerving for the audience
Love this guy. If you gonna be in entertainment business. You can't care what people think not even family or friends..
I like this guy. I need to watch more of the videos with him. He's the guy that told Hollywood to stop doing remakes in one of the uploads I think. #wisdom
Just another reason why Elden Ring is an amazing game.
Makes sense
What's completely missing from current films is soul, heart, and distinctive characters/performers. Current trend is socially acceptable content checklists and rigid archetype characters, played by non charismatic actors who hit their marks. Hollow H'wood actually overthinks 'ideas'. No feeling, or experimenting. Just dull gray. Boring.
If someone can make an actual funny comedy with rich characters, it will hit. The void is long overdue to be filled. Filmmakers need to stop overthinking lenses and cameras and put the energy elsewhere.
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In today's Hollywood, or even in general society, you can't make anything actually funny, and that's because real humor takes reality and pokes fun at it, and people have become so thin-skinned that they don't want their reality to be the subject of a punchline. They don't want to laugh at themselves. I think a great comedy with rich characters is the Eddie Murphy movie The Nutty Professor. It does an excellent job of showing the audience the different sides of humor, how fat jokes can be both funny and hurtful, but it doesn't show anyone preaching about how fat jokes can never be made again. The movie successfully walks that fine line of simply leaving it to the audience to interpret, and that's because the focus of the film isn't on activism or attempting to shame people who laugh at fat jokes, but rather on how the protagonist deals with his reality, and that's a great thing that current films are missing.
Movie 101: show don't tell
Lol, this guy just rambles and rambles, I don’t even think he’s listening to what he’s saying
Imagination. Yes. I’ve done auditions where I find a different way to say the line that is natural but makes you wonder: what’s he mean when he said it that way? As if there was a little backstory we weren’t privy to. And the audience could imagine what he might have meant.
Marvel did exactly what Chris described, The Avengers lost their battle with Thanos in Infinity War. Iron Man beat him in the next movie, but had to sacrifice his own life. Then afterwards, we watched everyone react to his death.
Mr. Chris's opinion is correct. Idea matters first. Leaving unexplained the idea incites audience own creative mind. Showing is always better than telling. Audience infers the idea theme with visuals very deeply and propels progressing level of their imagination
Indian movies now mingle Hollywood presentation with Indian variety ideas. Take the case of Vikram film which has hit the box office with historic money spinning
I too agree with what Mr Chris opines.
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it'd be cool if you would do something that went over like, how you figure out laws, how you figure out how to get a permit to film in areas.
Alien is a good example of the show don’t tell method because like Jaws they don’t show you what the creature looks like till the end of the film. Which is a lot more horrific than you think it to be. Lol
Hollywood isn't the only place on earth to get movies made.
On that same note, I’ll also add there are things at your disposal as a screenwriter as well to make your script come to life without even trying to produce it. It’ll be way cheaper and more fun as you’ll have more autonomy over your own script.
Got any pointers if the idea is a fan film of a non-film property?
Indie films also have a lot more creative control too.. When movies take on large budgets from various investors, your essentially are giving up a lot of creative control for the funding..
All you need is a really good idea. It doesn’t have to be 💯 original, but it helps if your story has some original characters and isn’t more of the same. And, I would say there’s something lacking in movies today: risk. Be daring. Even if it when the so-called experts criticize you and tell you that your idea’s no good, nobody will hit it, nobody will pay money to see it, it won’t work, etc. If you have a creative vision and it’s something fresh and bold and you believe in it, DO NOT quit. NEVER quit. Remain steadfast in your vision and keep pushing until someone listens to you and agrees to give you the green light. Don’t worry about market research, demographics, or any of that rubbish. Follow your heart. As a wise man once said, “the heart is the temple where all truth resides”.
Been playing D&D since 1978
Took him 4 minutes to mention Star Wars... it might be a new record
Are you now watching to see if he mentions Star Wars? Haha
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Or political activists say "you didn't include X group of people." Or your politics don't align with thiers. But I still believe the west can create good movies, shows, and books. As long as the writer is more interested in writing a good story and not interested in a culture war.
Or may be the basement fascists care too much about identity politics. May be the minority audience has become very toxic and louder thanks to the internet.
@@gijane2cantwaittoseeyou203 Basically. Like LGBT characters. Most people just want 3-dimensional characters without being thier sexuality being thier only character trait. Like Borderlands, anime, and Arcane. But one side wants gay\trans characters be Mary Sues or self-inserts with 0 human flaws. Or get mad at a gay character just existing. Ironically people like Critical Drinker loved Arcane when people called him a "toxic misogynist." You are absolutely correct if you criticize a character meant for a political check-box you get called names. If you write a story like Sandman a story with progressive themes and LGBT characters the anti-sjw's freak out. So I think it's best to ignore them while taking constructive criticism from the quiet majority. The REAL people being silenced.
why is it so hard for these people to understand hey 🤷♂️. I think they actually want to see the world burn 🔥
@@TheJadedFilmMaker They just want everyone to be as miserable as them. Which is why thier mad at Chris Pratt. A goof father and a religious man.
This is like comparing a fromsoftware game to an Ubisoft game
To Chris's point about using the audience's imagination and having characters discuss things off-screen: If Empire Strikes Back was made today, instead of opening on Hoth and Han talking about having to leave because bounty hunters were after him, now it'd probably open on a scene with Han getting attacked by a bounty hunter, then a chase scene, etc. and just balloon up the budget needlessly for the sake of trying to make the opening exciting.
The way ESB did it was character-focused and gave Han and Leia a chance to have some growth. The other way would just have been showy and overblown, failing to focus on one of the most important parts - the characters.
_The Usual Suspects_ is a great example of this. Ever seen all the conjecture over who Kaiser Sose really was? Ever try to figure it out yourself?
A bit late to the party but oh well. You even see this in older Marvel movies, in the first Avengers movie in the Loki - Black Widow dialogue. There Loki brings up her bloody past and it draws you in on the character. The mystique of those past actions sell the point, but now we got a movie overexplaining that mystique, maybe even enough to retrospectively ruin the previous one. From "oh, those things sound like they lead to a guilty concious" to "eh, nothing we haven't seen in other superhero movies so why would you seek atonement for it"
Black widow is the least loved MCU character
Reminds me of all the bad radio commercials that overexplain every detail. They allow no imagination to fill in any gaps and repeatedly treat you like a complete moron. Everything is hammered home with the bluntness and subtlety of a sledgehammer.
Sometimes I wonder if Hollywood has spoon fed audiences so much that we’ll reach a point where the audience doesn’t want to use their imagination and just be entertained
We’ve reached a point where Hollywood isn’t even holding the spoon, they’re just pouring that shit on with no respect.
Given the defenders of content like Obi Wan, the Disney trilogy, recent Marvel stuff, I think we're already there. I even have people essentially state that when saying why they liked it, they dance around basically "I'm able to shut my mind off and just enjoy it."
I’m disheartened by fellow indie filmmakers who look at me confused and say “how?” Or the quick “well I mean if you could figure it out”.
Like…
Yes, you’re correct. We will have to figure it out. But cgi has only been in major use for 30+ years, yet we reference movies like Star Wars, The Thing, Alien, ET, and 2001. It’s a shame so many young filmmakers throw their ideas away because of hacks in the industry from the bottom to the top that are lazy and uninspired. Make that hard to make movie, follow that unknown path.
Remember Peter Jackson started off small. He was really creative.
Saw is another brilliant example
Saw had some interesting things but it really does boggle my mind how many people claim they didn't see the twist coming.
It´s like in "Buckaroo Banzai" with the Watermelon! It fires up the Imagination for over 35 years now! Would be so boring if someone in a remake goes to explain it.
I want someone to have the balls to remake the 80's cartoon Dino-Riders into a real life action/war movie. Every moment of that movie should feel as if you are watching a war movie. It must be brutal, grimey, and intense from the start to the finish. Dinosaurs ripping people apart and mowing down people with machine guns. Guts, limbs, and blood should be flying everywhere. No mercy! It must be brutal and unforgiving like any war movie. If Saving Private Ryan had sex with Jurassic Park/World and Full Metal Jacket joined the action = Dino-Riders
He ain't wrong. He's got a lot of valid points... Oh and he said money shot teehee 😆
This is why i score moves that dont even exist: imagination.
I know bone tomahawk was made for almost no money and was filmed on location in a very small area, had a great cast and writing and was one of the best movies i ever saw except for that one unnecessarily gorey part
About the "telling not showing" device it reminds me of the greatest horror movie ever, the indianapolis story told on Jaws. They didnt show any of it and somehow its burned into my memory... more than Jaws itself... go figure
There are some, that nobody have done yet?
I love this guy. 🤔☕️🎩🎩🎩👍
How do you think beginning filmmakers can compete with Hollywood?
By being themselves. If you want to challenge a thesis, you have to present antithesis. Hollywood is the opposite of personal.
Good advice. Make movies Hollywood is affraid of. And Hollywood is scared of almost anything so there's a vast universe to explore. And treat adults as adults instead of abult-babies.
"Use the audience's imagination". The original Blair Witch Project is an excellent example of making something out of literally nothing using the audience's imagination.
By being themselves, because Hollywood is the opposite of personal.
Hollywood today is bereft of anything that has imagination or creativity. Too many parameters to overcome and checklists that destroy the intent which was to make art through a photograph hence a motion or moving picture. They truly don’t have a pair because of the society that “we” created. Rather than enlightening the individual or captivating one it is mostly dumbed down to the LCD… which is why the golden age of film (the 70’s) is standalone as I’d venture to say entertained and made you think. Those Filmmakers Lucas included allowed for ambiguity and mystery to take a hold of you where as nowadays they deliberately are telling you how you must think instead of having a conversation of dare I say differing viewpoints… aghast?! Simply put PC group thought and certain constructs have destroyed most if all film. Hollywood at that time had the likes of Robert Evans as Ballsy Producer and Corman’s AIP hiring those and mentoring those “rebels” gave “artistic” license as Chris says to explore. Sadly, today its about as good as Campbell’s Chicken soup… all filler and no real meat.
Fucking A, bro. Save some genius for the rest of us!
RRR has definitely influenced chris gore and I guess he'd have thought of it atleast for once when he's giving this interview and his thoughts
But dude! Dont you realise that the reason the first star wars movies were great (in this respect) is because they began at episode four. It was not a clever move.