Re pointing using a pointers hod on an un even stone wall with lime mortar tips for beginners
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- Lime pointing stone wall tips
I've pointed it slow to show you not to rush and take your time
make sure the joints are deep enough to point
wash out the joints a few times
soak the wall before pointing after the stones dry off then it's ready to point
don't over work the mortar as you will pull moisture from the mortar and put a skin on your pointing
make sure to fill all joins
Big joint put a pinning in it
use a good quality lime
measure by volume
Read the data sheet before starting
before starting the work see if your local council does a lime course
This is the most informative, instructive video I’ve ever watched on CZcams done by a person who is a natural teacher. I’ve learnt so much about this subject. Thank you.
Thank you very much
If you need any advice or help talking through a project just let me know
Class channel man, very random question, what ratio are you mixing and are you using plastering sand@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd
@ivanogilby6174 1 hydraulic lime 3 washed sharp sand
I've done a video on sands the different types I use
This is grit sand it has 5 different grades of sand in it
Thank you. Great video and very useful pointing tips - with gratitude..
I've watched loads of pointing videos and this has been the most useful by far for my uneven stone wall - you've given great tips for all the issues I've been having - wish I'd found this video two month's ago! Thanks for posting!
Thank you
Any more advise needed just ask
I'm hear to help
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and techniques, I have picked up a lot of good tips from your videos
Thank you
Some great tips in your video there mate! Cheers 👋
Great tips, thank you
Great video ,thanks for all the tips,
Thank you
Very nice professional work!
Thank you
Great tips
Great video, thanks
Thanks for posting 👍
Anything to help my videos are for beginners, so if you don't understand anything just let me know
Brilliant video, I felt like I got a lot of tips. Cheers very much :)
Thank you very much
If you need any advice please feel free the ask
Careful now - I just bought a 500 year old farmhouse in France 🤣 if you make invitations like that you might regret it !
@@lostinaveyron2279 😃😃 I get about 15 messages a week
Wattsapp pictures videos and emails
I don't mind I answer when I can
500 years old that's a good age
Are you doing much work to it
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd well it's in almost original state and untouched. A real gem - made of local granite with a lauze roof. Even the tiles are held on with the old wooden pegs. Amazing place but a lot of work - my dream is everyone else's nightmare :D I will save the video then and maybe drop you a message later, every bit of advice is welcome because I never did this before. Fun fact - I also grew up in Scotland so it's especially nice to maybe get advice from a Scot :)
Thanks for the "tips", will help in my basement, flagstone foundation "repair" I'm presently doing.
No problem I'm here to help if you have any questions
Fantastic work mate! Just found your channel and going though all your videos! I've got a really old wall to repoint, probably 150 200 years old so getting trying to get a few tips and techniques from you..as I've never used lime mortar before😂👍 just subscribed mate! Keep up the great videos!👌😁
If you need to know anything just ask no problems I try and aim my videos at beginners to guide you
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd appreciate that mate! Keep up the good videos! Hope you've enjoyed your weekend mate!😁🍻🍻
Starting my first job at this in Andover CT. I usually build dry stack walls. But had a lead to repair an old 100 year wall. Thanks for your video. May in Connecticut call be warm. At what temperatures should I apply the hessian cloth? And is that material the same as burlap?
@@louislaguardia1659 hi mate ☺️ apply if the temperature drops below 4 dragees Fahrenheit ☺️
'if you're the type of person to rush, don't do it' has me still laughing... I think you're the best at this I've seen. But really, I suspect you've got a little bit of a rushed manner too .... 'ill be there in the next 5 minutes' 😂😂😂 I myself am at the start of repointing my 2 cottages and the considerations mentioned in the video are quite current for me. Thanks a bunch, you're the pro in this field.
Thanks if you need any advice just ask
Just plod on and enjoy it 🤪
THANK BRO /// IM 60YRS YOUNG AND GREATFUL TO LEARN
Never to late to start lime pointing
Any questions just send me a message
How you take a good while to show this and build it up through the whole process. A very good video thank you
Thank you for your kind words
I try to help where I can feel free to subscribe it helps me get my content out
I do it for free
If there's any videos you would like me to do just ask
Thanks for this great vidéo.
I'm from France and didn't understand everything. I was wondering if you had created your tool that hold the mortar? It looks much easier than using a trowel.
How much sand per lime? What lime and what sand? Any ciment? Do you clean the joints the next day or on the same day? Do you keep it wet the next days? Any different treatment for lime rather than ciment? How much do you charge per square meter for this kind of wall with lots of joints? Now I need that tool. Thanks for creating unique content! Now I have to watch all the vidéos
its a pointing hod you can buy them of ebay search mini pointing hods
depending on the lime you use check the data sheet online free
normally a 1:2.5 or 1:3
lafarge or saint astier i use
use a washed sharp sand
do not add or use cement
you clean the joints several times i do the night before and 10 minutes before i point as you want to be pointing onto a damp joint
pricing depends on your skill level
hope that helps
Hello mate, really interesting video, very informative.
I’ve got an internal random sandstone wall to re point for a friend, also some walls in handmade brick.
What mix would you recommend please?
Thanks
If it's inside just buy a ready mix putty or if you can mix it yourself
A hot mix mortar made from quicklime
@GMTpointingspecialistsltd
Thanks for this awesome video! I'm from Pennsylvania, learning how to do stonework myself. Could you help me with some advice on how to make the correct mortar mix? Seems to be no good place around where I live to get taught about this, so I'm turning to you since your work looks amazing. Thanks in advance!
Yes no problem if you have wattsapp or fb contact me through there with pictures of the project and any questions
Great video very helpful how much should I expect to pay a meter or hour for this to be done on my house
It really depends
what part of the country you live in
what the work involves
Removing the old mortar
what material you are using
Say if the inside wall has been plastered over and skimmed would it show damp patches. Does a lime built wall need to be able to breathe through both sides?
Yes and yes
If it lime built you need to lime plaster And use a lime breathable paint
If you use a gypsum plaster And modern paint it will hold moisture and bubble behind the paint and sits in the plaster
Use traditional materials on a traditional property
Hope that helps
Hi thanks for sharing your knowledge. Im repointing a sandstone foundation in Pennsylvania US with NHL 3.5 that has been abused by cement fixes over the years. Lots of very deep voids. Probably 6-8 inches deep, if not more but its a cavity wall anyway.
Ive heard i have to repoint in lifts when its this deep, letting the mortar dry an inch at a time and then adding another lift once it is thumb print hard.
Can i just use gilettes instead of doing the lifts? I have some spare slate I can stuff in to make the voids smaller...
Hi yes you can use slate small stone or use horse hair or buffalo hair in the mix
To pack it out
Really useful video, I’m repointing the back of the house with lime, after a long battle with my other half who wanted the whole thing rendered, but didn’t want to cover all the beautiful stone. Can I ask what you meant by ‘add a pin’ or nail, is that the stones you add into the void. Stone work I’m working on looks exactly like this
Hi pin or Gillette is a small stone you can use slate to break the void up
If you want to whattsapp some picture I can give you some advice
Always start at the top
Don't use building sand
Are the 2 main things begginers do wrong
Hi thanks very much for the response. What sand would you recommend and for colour I’ve heard a 4 to 1 ratio is better as I dnt want the mortar to dry too white. Is that mix ok for exterior work?
@Lisa-lz2ul
Hi if your using nhl 1:4 is fine use a good quality one lafarge or Saint astier
Lime goes to the colour of the soft sand in your sharp sand mix
Or you can order a putty and choose your colour
Hi, great video thanks. I was wondering if you remove the old pointing with a hammer and chisel or a power tool? I've seen people use an angle grinder with a disc or a raking tool that fits to the grinder. What is your opinion of these?
Thank you.
I will always try and hand pick
But if its to hard you can use mechanical as long as its not listed
Diomond blades can be used to cut through the centre of the joint
When would you pick this Lyme mortar vs a type S that we have in the US? Thank you.
I don't understand the question sorry
Type s is a very strong cement mortar about 45 Newton's last time I looked this is more for concrete or new builds not heritage work
Type s lime is more of a hydrated lime
I think it's called lime works in America check them out
This lime is about 2 to 3 Newton's at its strongest let's the walls wick away water
And is sacrificial and won't destroy the stone
Hope this helps
pushing about 1-2 inches inward of new concrete. Old cement further in (thick walls) deemed okay to leave as is?
If its stone work lime built try to get out as much cement as possible without the stones moving
Hi,
Is it a custom hawk you're using to scoop mortar? I can't find anything similar
Just put pointing hod in ebay or its c&e supplies on fb
Out of interest what was the pin that you placed in the wall on the bigger void, and what does it do, is it just to hold it together when it dries?
The pinning some or Gillette stone is to fill the void so you don't use as much lime and it also stops the lime cracking
Great video. very useful thanks. Would you ever use lime putty or do you always use NHL? Also, what would be the curing time for the NHL you have used and how long would you leave it before you finish with the churn brush?
Hi I use nhl 2 or 3.5 lafarge or Saint astier I find them 2 the best quality I use them more than putty as where I live is a high wind heavy rain area
I will use putty if its a protected area of the property or it just won't last
I'm just editing a video to show you when it's ready to churn brush off
It depends how much moisture the wall holds
Temperature during the day and night
Test it by pressing your finger in the mix if it leaves marks its not ready
If you press the notification button when I upload it you will get notified
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Super, thanks for the quick response. Look forward to the next upload. Cheers
Great tips thank you! If lime render is going over the top is the neatness and process the same?
I dont do lime render
I only do pointing
When you do your first coat of render it will fill small voids if you have anything bigger than an inch I'd fill first then render over the top
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd thank you!
@christopherdavies788 no problem
Are you lime rendering
Or if the stone looks nice you can put a slurry coat or lime wash over it
Is there any tips on how to get a darker finish ? I’ve never pointed before and I live in a terreced early 1900s house that is lime mortar , the other house in my row look like they’ve been repainted using cement and I don’t want mine sticking out like a sore thumb . So far I’ve tried 4:1 red sand / 3.5 hydraulic lime , 4:1 sharp sand / 3.5 , 4:1:1 yellow sand 1sharp 1 3.5 and every time it comes out bright white 🤦♂️🤦♂️
If the other houses have been pointed in a cement mortar they will be a grey colour
The best bet if you want a colour like that buy a ready mixed mortar
Ty Mawr lime or lime green there's a few others that manufacture coloured mortar they do a colour chart for you to choose from try one of them
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd that’s great thank you 👍
Hello, do you have to remove all of the old mortar before you fill it in again?
No as the wall would collapse lol
Normally go minimum twice the depth of the width
I wish I'd watched this before I pointed the wall and not after😅
Haha 😄
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd honestly mate it lools like Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder did it😅
@olismith7460 if its bad take it back out try again before it cures
Send me some pictures on wattsapp and I'll tell you what's the best way to fix it
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Cheers mate I've just raked it out and went over it with wire wool in a grinder and my mate's pointing it back in for better or worse😅
I’m new to this and only doing it as a one off. How do I go about pointing deep voids in a stone wall? I was thinking pointing the gap so it’s half full then coming back once it’s dried to fill the rest of the gap. Is that the correct process?
Yes if its deep put some pinnings in aswell it will stop it cracking
Use sharp or grit sand
Doent use building sand
Glenn, something for discussion: in the British Isles how are cobblestones or granite sets laid in a roadway? What is the base? What is used for setting bed? What is the grout between the material? When you respond I will tell you what I just witnessed on a street in Philadelphia.
It depends its laid on
A course lime mortar
Or sandy graravel
Filled with a grit sand or pee gravel
Ok, a flexible base. What I saw this morning: 8" concrete base, setting bed of 4 sand, 1 Portland, grout of 2 sand, 1 Portland. Both bed and grout are laid dry. I maintain that this is too hard with freeze/thaw cycle that we experience. The spec is written by the city. Their reason is because of heavy trucks and buses. 25-30 years ago it was done this way and today it is being redone. Most of it was originally done at the beginning of the 20th
Sorry, some how it cut off. Original bed was sand and coal ash. Pretty flexible. The softer the bed, the longer it will last.
@peterfcoyle9127 yes 100% softer the better if you get a problem you rebed them
With a really hard cement mix any problems it has to be dug up and put in landfill it's a waste
Hello, your mix a 3&1 mix is that with sharp sand only, or a mix of building sand and sharp?
Sharp sand through to soft sand ask for a mason's sand
I never use building sand as it's full of impurities
Always say binder first
So it's a 1 to 3
Choose your lime carefully for each job as they vairy in so many different ways
Hope this helps
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd thankyou 👍
Hi I’m pointing an old garden wall ,I need to get a light finish to the mortar how do I go about getting that thanks
Use I light coloured sharp sand or soft and sharp sand lime goes to the colour of the sand
Don't use building sand
If you have a local quarry ask them what they have
I use a light brown sharp with my lime
Excellent video! I’ve noticed after repointing my wall, a few areas have dried quicker than the rest and have gone lighter. Do you recommend repointing the light sections or will will it all blend as it ages?
If you kept the walls damp, it will be fine
That area might not be as deep as the rest
Keep wetting it down for a few days it will crack and fall out and turn to powder if it fails
What type of lime did you use
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd thank you for the reply. I used hydraulic 3.5. It’s been a week since it’s been on and just a couple of joints have lightened more so thn the rest. They feel solid. Just concerned whether they’ll stay lighter than the rest or over time it’ll blend in.
@jonatho6677 no it will blend in
Hi mate can we still point in these temperatures ie winter in lime to stone
Depending on the lime
6 degrees and rising
But you could get frost damage with it if you do don't remove the crust it will protect the lime underneath
Don't use to wet a mix as it's the water that freezes
you will need to use hessian and water proof sheets
Most pointers take the winter off as we have worked hard through the rest of the year
If it can wait till better weather just wait
Hi where do you buy the pointing hod I’ve never seen one before
C & e supplies pointing hods on FB
They sell them on eBay as well
Great video ..Where can I buy a pionter hod
So your comments further down and managed to purchase some of eBay
What mix are you using?
I'm using a lafarge nhl 3.5 Barras grit sand
It's in a high wind heavy rain area of North wales
Hi m8, sorry Im repeating myself again!
What mix/ratio are you using here because I want to lime point my 1851 sandstone cellar wall which has leaked wet rain into the lower wall somehow. Is it 4:1 etc sand included?the sandstone wall in like mud and stone lol.
Cheers again...
Hi I use
1 lafarge nhl3.5
3 washed brown sharp sand
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Thanks mate. Love your work. Subbed.
How long do you leave it before you clean,brush the joints
It depends on the temperature and how wet the mix is
I use a semi dry mix on a warm day I can churn brush it off in an hr
Or if its cold some times the next day
When you scrape it back with a stick you can normally tell if it's ready or not
Thanks for info
Great to see you using FINGERS. I ended up doing this and thinking it was wrong, but it felt natural. Can you tell me what mixture you use? I was using Masons Mortar "easyfast" ready mixed but find it dries very WHITE !
This one was lafarge nhl3.5 and borras brown sand
What colour sand did you use
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Thanks so much for the reply. The Easyfast mortar product is ready mixed, just says "coarse". I thinks it's intended for use in pointing guns. Ive previously used otterbein, cimpor, or hourdex nhl5 and mixed it with prompt natural cement and very gritty sand as recommended at Masons Mortar for strength in fixing an exposed whinstone chimney - used one part nhl5, one prompt, 5 sand - it has gone a buff colour after 10 years and looks OK. I would use this mix again but I know it's rather too strong, besides don't have much to do to justify buying full new bags so thought the Easyfast would suffice but it's really white. .
@pierhead12345 I always mix my own
I never use premixed stuff as I don't know how there mixed
Always go for a darker sand or brown lime
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Yes, this is where experience matters. I have just been asking staff in Mason's Mortar, very helpful, but there's no shortcut to finding out how a finished job is going to look. For this job I think I'll try some pigment see how it turns out. At least it's proper lime, not cement like most builders would use. .
@pierhead12345 yeah
Alot of lime companies will try and sell you products
It's how they make there money so they have too
I always choose the right coloured sand I've mixed 3 different sharp sands to get the correct colour
Cracking job lads.what mix do you use and how long does it last to work with 👍👍
I use a lafarge 2 or 3.5 mixed at a 1:3 ratio by volume with brown sharp sand or grit sand
this wall is in a valley it gets battered with driving rain and 120 mph winds
Don't put cement in the mix or use building sand
Thanks for that 👌
@preciouspups4116 no problem here to help if you have any questions
What is Lafarge? Thanks
@@tom3639 lafarge is a brand of lime I use
Lafarge nhl 3.5 or 2.0
What are you using Hydraulic or Non Hydraulic lime?
Hydraulic lafarge it's one of the best nhl on the market
Non hydraulic wouldn't last in that valley with the high winds and sideways rain
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Would you use that on sandstone?
@davidrichardson446 use an nhl 2 depending on the sand stone to high a free lime decays the sand stone quicker
Cheshire sandstone is bad for it
Google lime suppliers near me
They might be best to tell you what sand and lime to use in your area
If you wattsapp or fb me some pictures I might be able to advise you better
Does that colour match when dry?
If you watch one of my other stone pointing videos
The video heading says nhl3.5
It shows the colour at the end
It's a light brown colour I use this as its local sand and it brings the colour of the stone out
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd got it, I like that you care about the art as well as function
How do you finish it off though once mortar applied? Do you have a video for that?
Yes just search gmt pointing on CZcams and all my videos will pop up
Hi Jim, can you tell me where you acquired your pointing hod please.
Hi
I've had them for about 20 years I bought a box of them I think I have about 4 or 5 left
I don't think they make them anymore
Thanks
Glenn
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Thanks Glenn, I'm a old school " 63 yrs" bricky with a love of repointing....." I know, I'm weared 😜" and I also collect old bricklayers tools, like plumb rules,trowels and pointing irons, and can honestly say that l've never seen a pointing Hod before. I use a plastering hawk that I adapted many years ago.
@@terrysclips4503 I've probably got a used one you can have
What part of the country are you
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd I'm Exeter area. What price would you be wanting ?
@@terrysclips4503 just pay the postage
M8
Roughly, how many hours would you take per square meter from start to finish including removal of old joints? And for a relative novice - x 3?
It's not any easy question to answer
Depends on what material you are removing
I've pointed stone work and brickwork quicker than I've removed it by hand
Depends on depth of material you point
I always rake the full job out then I repoint it
There's a video on my page of a lady pointing her garden wall she never picked up a trowel before took her about 30 mins to do half a m2
Sorry I couldn't be more help but it's difficult to answer
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Thank you. I am doing one gable to begin with which is exposed to the elements. It’s about 25 m² of sandstone. It has been pointed and indeed plastered over with cement but most of the surface cement has come off through weather erosion. I intend to pick all of the joints and re-point and also to remove the remaining cement plaster. Two brief questions:- should I re-point using cement or lime? What about then applying Stormdry paste to the exterior of the sandstone blocks? Some say never to use cement with sandstone but just about every property in the street has done this as many say lime simply doesn’t stand up to the weather here in Shetland!?
I'm in north Wales we get 80 to 100 mile an HR winds and rain that comes sideways
A good quality NHL 3.5 lafarge or saint astier
Lime wash or render it as well sand stone needs to breath
Cement is to strong it will destroy the stone
And no don't put a sealer on
Look on the Scottish lime centre website or give them a call
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Many thanks - why wouldn’t you use Stormdry as it seems to get rave reviews albeit that it is expensive? Would that not stop the driving rain penetrating through the sandstone? Or do you think that it would never penetrate right through so as to cause water ingress?
@@michaelinkster4977 old stone houses need to wick away moisture from inside the house and water from outside
Trying to get in you have a traditional old building
It needs to be treated as so or you will find you have condensation inside and once storm dry is on you will be stuck with it for the next 20 years
Contact the Scottish lime center or ty Mawr lime
They will give you better options
Hi doing a gable end north east Scotland. Is nhl 5 suitable granite stone
I wouldn't recommend it I'm in North Wales horrible weather the strongest I go is lafarge or Saint astier nhl 3.5
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd what mix because I did the front with it and it looks well and has cures good. I use three building sand 1 sharp sand and 1 lime that is the mix most people use here . What would you recommend as you clearly know your pointing . I appreciate the feedback
@@shaunstewart5400 was that a nhl 5 mix
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd yes I told that was best to use on granite etc. but I think for the gables 3/5 nhl is needed
@shaunstewart5400 I never use building sand to many impurities
With nhl 3.5 it's mixed at 1:2.5 I mix it at 1:3 washed sharp or grit sand
It really needs to be a washed sand
The scotish lime center might be able to tell you what sand is local to your area
Or if you have a local sand quarry they will tell you
What is the pointing mix and ratio please
I'm using a 1:3 NHL with high free lime content with brown sharp gritty sand
I'm in north Wales
This was in a valley with high winds and heavy rain
Choosing your lime
Each building is different
Depends on what part of the country you live in
Depends on what time of the year
Each NHL is different
Read the data sheet it's free online
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd thanks. Im renovating a very old property in North West crete and it's had a strong cement render applied many years ago. The walls are 50cm thick and made up of large and small stones that were laid with clay that has become dusty when i remove the cement render and lime plaster. The local builders no nothing about lime mortar or plaster. Thanks for your information, it's extremely useful to me.
@@randallwilson5134 if your on Facebook
Go on the lime plaster forum
Ask for advice
Take away from it what you can
You just have to take more care of lime in the heat so just pick the time of year carefully
Good luck with your project
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd thanks again i will check that site. Im planning to start the exterior work in early spring after the rainy season. Thankfully the property is not directly in the sun. The property and area dates back from the Turkish and venetians before them. Lots of opportunities to buy these ancient buildings cheap because the locals want modern homes.
Never seen a pointing hod before
I've used them for 20 years
I prefer them to anything else
Do you always work alone ,it would be a shame not to pass on your skill and knowledge to the next generation
Yes always work alone no one really wants to work hard now a days
It's a dusty dirty job
This is my way of passing it on and trying to incourage new people to take it up
Your wasting far too much
I'm not wasting it it's dropping onto a sheet and I'm then using it for my pinnings
@@GMTpointingspecialistsltd Good for you, that told Mr Know all Giz
The videos I do are to help people that are new to pointing I try to show them things that would happen to them so use a sheet to catch anything that drops to re use
To take there time and not rush
Also later I show them to stop if the mix is to wet to churn brush off
And to read the data sheet
I'm trying to guide people to do it the correct way
I don't need to do the videos I do it for free
Dude's offering technical knowledge and crucial tips from years of experience, all for free - a blind man on a galloping horse can see his skills and talents - yet there's always a clown with a monstrous chip on their hunched shoulder who simply cannot hide their miserable jealousy. Ha.
Jiz has slunk-off to another video now - probably to slag-off a brilliant musician offering essential advice, or a dedicated mechanic working on a car, ffs. Jiz is all over the internet and always miserable, mostly to himself lol.
I'll now block Jiz.
Top-class work, Glenn, keep doing what you're doing, pal 👍
Well I never, I have been pointing many years, not stone though, and have never seen a pointing hod, does seem to work well.I have seen some Dutch pointers using a round shaped one I just use a traditional pointing tray.Great vid👍