40 Years of Computer History - Commodore, Apple, Atari, & More, Ft. AkBKukU | LTX 2019
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- In this video, we walk through 40 years of PC history at LTX 2019, from the Commodore PET and Apple II to DOOM.
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This video was filmed at Linus Tech Expo 2019 (LTX 19), where we met up with AkBKukU, linked below, to walk-through decades of computer hardware. Some of the calculators we looked at are an excellent anagram for modern CPUs and were made in the 1950s, with more traditional computer systems popping-up in the 70s and 80s. We look at the Apple Sunflower, Comomdore and Atari systems, RadioShack's early computer offerings, initial renditions of Windows, early gaming PCs, and a whole lot more.
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Sorry for skipping two days of uploads! I have been really sick post-LTX and still am. Got sick right when I was supposed to take some time off, too. Maybe I'll switch to the Linus "fan fist bump" next year rather than handshakes!
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dont even worry dude, we all know how hard you guys have been working this past month
get well
Love those old "overpriced glorified typewriters" (what my granddad called them. lol!) My first one was a Packard Bell with an 8088 IBM CPU. It ran at 4.77MHZ standard or you could "turbo" the CPU with a command and bump it up to 9.54MHZ! Also had 640 KB of RAM and a spacious 40 MB HDD. The blazing power! lols!
Don't stress yourself Steve, we understand the effort and hardwork you and team puts into these videos. Are you sure Linus didn't spread the virus to eliminate competition?. ;).
Public announcement. If you guys are interested in this type of videos. There are some great youtube channels you can follow. Like The 8bit guy and LGR amog others like metaljesusrocks
Yes, he's been to weird places.
Huge thanks for the coverage from the show and especially AkBKukU for hauling this veritable museum of technology up here. Y'all rock.
That's the first time I've seen a Canadian say "Y'all". It's kind of weird and unsettling...
@@General_Griffin Maybe Jon (LTT Tech Quickie writer) was the one who wrote the message? He talks like that. Pretty sure he lives in NC nearish to Gamers Nexus.
@@General_Griffin We occasionally type it because of the abbreviation. Rarely, if ever, speak it.
@@General_Griffin It must of been me. As a Texan getting to meet Linus...
Tell AkBKukU that he can whiten his remarkable historical collection without risks using sunlight. Yes the same thing that yellows it but thing is direct sunglight whitens while indirect one does opposite. This guy did great explanation: czcams.com/video/8P1OVj0IcqY/video.html watch from 15:25 if you want super short version.
Oh man, I didn't expect AkBKukU on this channel, that's a pleasant surprise.
Yes, where are ST's and A500's, the dream machines of the 85-95 gaming era.
I hear that. Now I'm waiting for Druaga1 to make an appearance.
@@juzujuzu4555
Nobody in America had an Amiga..... go back to watching NostalgiaNerd, RetroManCave, and Octav1usKitten for your Amiga fix.
hes a looker
@@KomradeMikhail Not as many as in Europe, but still a lot, there were even NTSC only games. Yamaha MSX is also left out. But remember, most game boxes of the time featured screenshots from Amiga.
When Tech Jesus meets Tech Moses
...meets Metal Jesus...that would've been nice.
Classic Old and New Testament mashup
@@KSPilo that would be so epic...
😂😂😂👌
He didn't know Richard Garriott though, so possibly a false prophet.
Having lived through that whole product time frame I think he did a good job. Fun to see some that old hardware up and running.
Absolutely! With all that knowledge, how in the world does he not know of Richard Garriott?!
Klingon00 he ran out of memory
In the early '70's, I worked on a IBM mainframe compatible computer that had what I believe were RCA 14" disk drives. These drives had to be put in a separate room because of the disks that would fly around the room leaving tracks around the walls until they lost momentum fell to the floor. If one hit you, it could be lethal.
The cause of this behavior was the seek mechanism in the drives. It was hydraulic and the mechanism was restrained from going into the center by actual chains. Every once in a while, the chain would break and the read heads would seek into the core of a drive spinning at 3600 RPM. The whole disk assembly would then burst through the cover of the drive and spin around the room. It didn't happen while I was there, but one could see the grooves on the walls of the room. The disks were of the removable type and I would estimate there weight at over 10 pounds. There were somewhere around 8 platters in each unit and a lot of the weight was in the central clamp-like part that held the disks.
IBM later had the 2311 drive of similar design, but only 3 platters. If you ran a sort on one of them, the hydraulic oil would overheat to the point that you could smell it. The only way to rescue it was to hit stop on the console of the IBM 360 Model 40 and wait for the drive to cool off. Then you could hit start and the computer would continue as if it never happened.
We also had 2314 drives with 7-8 platters and they did not appear to have the same problems.
Later, IBM had a drum drive that sounded like a jet engine winding up and with a head-per-track arrangement that did not need a seek mechanism. It literally weighed something like a ton and usually had to be lowered through a hole in the roof because of its size and weight. Ugh!
I later worked on one of the very first SSD's at Storage Technology at their Boulder, CO plant during the early 70's. We also developed a 14" laser disk in that time frame.
The optical disk went precisely nowhere, but the SSD had some interesting uses (a story for anothervenue).
@@everettlwilliamsii3740 - great "war story". It's so easy to be oblivious to practical issues while looking at performance specs.
The turbo button! Takes me back :)
FYI, the intention of the "turbo" feature is actually the OPPOSITE of an overclock. Quite a bit of software (especially games) was pinned to clock timings, so the faster the processors got the games became unplayable. the Turbo button was there to SLOW the CPU down so the software would work as intended.
Of course, I never told customers this when I built them PC's :)
Richard Potts yes exactly. When the clock speeds of the 286 (12-20mhz) and the 386 (25/33/40mhz) games would play properly because they relied on cpu ticks for delays. Everything played too fast. So the turbo button slowed these machine down to 8mhz. The turbo button was still carried over into the 486’s but the switch usually slowed them down to 33mhz, not 8mhz like the one in the video.
Technically I think the turbo button was always ON by default to get the max speed, when you pressed it you were actually turning turbo off. It made things fun when you won a game of solitaire lol. That epic ending in slow mo.
Biggest team up 2019.
Just a little disappointed that there were no Amiga's shown. I still got my 500 ( bought new 1987 ) and 500+ ( got it used in 1994 ). Both are fully functional, good ol hardware that never dies.
YES!!! I love when I see smaller niche youtubers on bigger channel.
I kind of expected a "Wayne's World, Wayne's World, party time , excellent!"-intro this time. 😎
PARTY ON!
E X T R E M E
C L O S E U P
I think this idea of getting a large portion of tech youtubers together, is awesome. Keep doing this !
You should next do a collaboration with Clint from LGR. Compare building a modern PC with a vintage DOS-based system. Edit: he's also local to NC.
He's got a nice big box game collection too!
That would be awesome
LGR is great, I know little from that era however what I do know has mostly came from him.
modern vs a couple of the old styles, like the old MFM stuff, that could drive you mad if you needed to get data off a drive, but also needed a specific controller card to do such... so many ribbon cables...
Same with the 8bitguy
I was not expecting to see AkBKuKU on your channel! Now you need Druaga1 lol
Hey smokers
smoke up
Solid state DOS on Ipads...
Install a SSD into Windows 95.
*play minecraft on windows 98.*
Wait.
now im waiting for that collab with Druaga1
This was one of my favorite booths on the show floor! Hope you feel better soon, Steve.
Descent was the shit. I remember playing it on my Grandma's Acer in 1998
you can still find it on GOG.com
That answer about the yellowing was so well thought out and in depth that it could have been an episode of 99 Percent Invisible. Great job guys!
That shaft-shearing-then-disk-in-the-wall story was constantly on my mind as I used to change RP06 disk canisters...
Is this the gorgeous hair channel?
GN hair conditioner, now on the GN store!
Video sponsored by Pantene Pro V for men.
Maybe it's Maybelline.
30 years after we saw a toaster Mac in an antique shop in Back to the Future II, we're there with old microcomputers now treated as valuable antiques, and 30 years after seeing Cafe 80s in that movie, that kind of nostalgia for the 80s is very much a reality. That movie was amazingly accurate in some ways.
yeeeah, exept the timetravel parts xD
6:02 *The white colour on most electronics was due to a German law stating that electronics had to be a neutral beige colour to avoid eye strain that occurred with reflected light from glossy and bright coloured plastics after hours of use. See VWestlife's video on it for more information
Again thanks for the LTX2019/creator vid. You took total advantage of LTX and produced great videos from it (get well soon 🤢 and Linus needs to include hand sanitizer in a "creators gift bag" for LTX2020! 😜)
It's fun watching you youngsters talk about "vintage" computers. In 1970 I was in Vietnam and read the famous article about the newfangled Altair computer kits. Later, after starting work at an oil company as an auditor, I bought an Apple II, two 5.25 floppies and Epson dot matrix printer for about $2600 - you could buy a used VW for that. It was also when Lotus 1-2-3 was the spreadsheet rage and I used it to run financial forecasts during my MBA courses. The CFO at my work got tired of me showing him 1-2-3 analysis on that Apple, and bought those new fangled IBM PC's with Lotus 1-2-3 through their corporate IBM account (for work). Later, I bought for work and used the luggable Compaq, and other portables every six months for my traveling visits to subsidiaries. I also was in a computer user group, the North Orange County Computer Club (NOCCC) which still exists and still have flea market purchases of an Altair, Imsai, Sinclair, and several other portables. Great fun. He needs an Altair and Imsai to START the collection. Cheers!
Man, I was waiting for this video! So awesome to see AkBKukU and part of his incredible collection there. Thanks for showing this to us!
Awesome video, thanks for spotlighting this mammoth of a personality and enthusiast. Gonna enjoy going through all of his videos on retro stuff!
Thank you for your coverage of this booth!
Just fantastic great job covering this booth at ltx. Thanks
This is amazing! Just took me through some of the machines that I grew up with as the industry developed into what we see today. Like watching History in real time sorting out what did and didn't work..
Watching this thinking "oh I remember using those"...then 24 mins in Steve says "now we're in the era where I was starting to play a lot of games."
I feel old...
Steve, thanks for coming to LTX again! Showcasing AkBkukU too, that was an awesome walk down memory lane for me too, just some awesome history on display in the man's area. Hope he returns next year...made for quite the attraction!
I am so old, I remember seeing some of the early stuff in offices and colleges I was at. Man what a collection, very interesting having the MIPS comparison, even if not totally comparable
One of the coolest videos you've done so far. Thanks so much to AkBKuKU
Cool collection and it's awesome that you could share it at the show and here.
This was the best 30m video EVER!!! Amazing to see tech progress this way. Thanks Steve & GN Team - felt like I was ACTUALLY there - even though I'm thousands of miles away =)
Great to see the video not cut to fit for time!
This video was amazing! Loved seeing all this computer history
Holy shit what an amazing video.. so many great memories here. Absolutely going to sub to this guy's channel. Great stuff Steve, thank you!
I also liked seeing the evolution of the refresh rates on the monitors, by virtue of the recording of this vid. When you compare the Tandy to the 2000 era ...incredible!
Awesome coverage right here! I had no idea there was a museum for this stuff in Mountain View. I'm going to visit ASAP.
One of my favorite vids in a while- this guy seems like such a pleasure :)
Thank you for that roller coaster ride on a time machine! haha That's an awesome collection!! I've had many of those older systems in life.
This is very nice.
One thing i love, is seeing old tech shows, explaining the new techs, as they were just new, and see, how people presented it, and how we understand looking back from where we are now, to those days.
Awesome video, super interesting seeing all that old tech
This is so awesome, AkBKukU is so underappreciated !
EDIT: what people fail to realize is how much trouble it was to set this 'booth' up ! Hauling all this hardware up to .ca, setting it up, making sure it keeps running. If anything, AkBKukU put in the most amount of time and effort in being at LTX imho.
Hauling it all the way from AZ after packing it all himself. Two days of driving (each way)without a co-driver. Absolutely!
@@BlakeGJ Yes !! I can never come to LTX, but I hope AkBKukU will again, next year, if he thinks it's worth all the trouble. He did an amazing job, from finish to end.
This made me smile. I used a Commodore Pet at school (ours had the smaller square keyboard layout with the built in cassette player), although they upgraded to BBC Model Bs and C64s while I was there. Fell in love with the C64 and my parents bought one for the family in Christmas 1983 (which I still have).
I copied 6 pages of machine language (all numbers) from Compute!'s Gazette Magazine to a Datasette Recorder (tape drive) to play Astro Panic on my Commodore 64 Computer.
I honestly can't believe the C64/128/Amiga wasn't in his collection. The C64 dominated the home computer scene in the early 80's. I had so many hacks on mine, including soft reset built into my Epyx FastLoad cartridge so I could make trainerz using the machine language monitor, a parallel port connector and cables to convert the 1541 disk drive to a parallel drive and raw copy all current copy protection of the day, etc.
We had every Wednesday at Radio Delta (local radio station of The Hague in the very early 90s) an hour where they broadcast games and programs for the C64. In the local newspaper (which came every Monday) there was a listing was was broadcasted at which time.. But I usually recorded the whole show and the day after checked what I liked and they copied onto the disk drive. But the C64 was mine computer.. A lot of the 70s and 80s computers showed in this video we actually had at home. Including the IBM typewriter with a parallel port and o course the IBM PC that you needed. IBM PCs in those days weren't very reliable and the typewriter could also be used 'standalone', so you could finish your work. How our typewriter had a little 1x16 character display to show the line you we're typing on the line. Only when you pressed enter, the line was actually printed..
Not sure why the C64, MSX, Atari 1024ST and Amiga 500/1200 weren't displayed. They were very important to the gaming history.. It took to the late 80s / early 90s before PC had graphical cards that could show more than 4 colors. But the C64 already had 16 colors and a very impressive sound chip..
Doom was the game that really presented the PC as a gaming machine. Especially the Diamond cards were impressive. AT least until the Voodoo cards arrived in the 2nd half of the 90s. That card took gaing to a completely other level. Especially NFS2 that had one desert like race where you encountered some kind of bee attack..
@@MrV1NC3N7V3G4 it may be because for us in the UK and parts of Europe. The Commodore stuff WAS the computer we all knew and it was the biggest selling but in America it was all Apple. Commodore never really broke into the US market so getting Commodore anything over there is not easy.
brickbatz, my memory of typing in games from magazines was pretty miserable. I would always make some spelling mistake or miss something. So I'd spend longer going through everything line by line checking it than I did typing it in. And I was one finger stabbing back then lol. And then when you did get it to run it was always so awful. Not quite a game but more a sort of hint of what a game is haha
@@ClayMann I live in the U.S. and the C64 was huge here. It was sold alongside Atari 2600 at Toys R Us and most department stores. I DO know that it was popular worldwide though because we used to hack MCI codes to call overseas BBS's for new games. Dynamic Duo from Germany cracked a LOT of C64 games.
He's great! Never would have heard of him if not for this video. Thanks Steve, and AkBKukU!
Great history lesson, I could tell this guy was both excited and nervous, what a collection! :D
This video was amazing! Thank so much!
Subscribed to him, it's nice to see the bigger CZcamsrs show off the smaller CZcamsrs, this is how it should be done thanks Gamers Nexus!
One of my fav vids you have done... my nostalgia gland needs milking...
Hey Steve, keep up the good work, and keep up acknowledging the retro computer/gaming community !
My computer experience started with these 1970s computers. Even the Radio Shack TRS 80 I had fun with.
I used the TRS 80 in high schoool during a study class damm took almost the whole class just to load anything up from the tape deck lol
The “trash 80”, I loved that thing!
I used to sell them. The Colour Computer's were silver at first (CoCo). Remember the chicklet keyboards?
a blast in the past for me.. gosh those pc and hardwares were so fun to tinker with during my younger years...
This is awesome!!! Akbkuku makes great videos - very addictive.
This brings up so many memories. My third computer had one of those DX4-100 processors. I had doubled my previous machine twice in getting to that: SX-25, DX2-50, and then DX4-100. It was such a thrill back then.
Great video, awesome history collection!!!
Descent 2 was a totally sick game! I clocked in hundreds of hours on that baby, designed my own maps, played over dialup with my friends and so on!
Played it with my very first 3D acceleration card, a 32MB S3 Virge.
Awesome, could have listened to this for hours!
Thanks for the video, its really good
A nice trip down memory lane on many systems I used growing up
This is so awesome. I learned to type on the Apple IIe way back when
Super interesting collection, so much new information!
Thanks for making this video. I find vintage computers fascinating these days.
Very very impressive, thank you for sharing!
Oh my god, you two look like long lost brothers! I love when two of the best at what they do meet under circumstances like this!
I learned so much history about computers by just watching this video! Thanks Steve!
Thank you for the walk down memory lane. One item from the 70’s/80’s missing. That small black Timex I remember as our 1st computer.
This guy is my kinda nerd, i love it. Incredible collection and you two kept it very interesting.
Commodore PET is still the best looking computer ever made.
Wow. Amazing. I did my college qualifications on a Commodore PET, the Atari 400 was the first computer I owned, and (I think) a DX4-100 was inside the first computer I built myself. Still have some beige boxes around, and no idea what they are or what's on them. A real history lesson from a true enthusiast. This is computer history!
Great video. Innate used many of those machines including right back to the Commodore PET with built in cassette. I had the tape desk with my VIC20; it was a lot squarer than the rounded version you had on that PET.
The turbo button on the PC was to allow compatibility with older software which only expected to be running at 33mhz.
To this day my main monitor is the larger brother to the 2407 monitor you have there. It is the Dell 3007, 30 inch 2560x1600 which needs a dual link DVI connection to drive it. I have been tempted to replace it with an ultrawide or a 4K recently but the size, aspect ratio and resolution are perfect. It was a hugely expensive monitor when new but was worth every penny.
omg that was amazing, this guys showcase is enough for me to want to go to LTX
Love this video!! What a collection!! How did he manage to move it 1600 miles!! 😁
Thanks for doing that video Steve... I had a TRS-80 coco2 with 16k, so was super interesting for me..... I would love to have a beer with Ak... He seems like a super cool dude........
This is so cool. You can hear the passion in his voice.
This was seriously so cool like for real this was awesome
Nostalgia 1000%, I love this collection!
Great video love the history walk through al ot of great hardware and software, seeing that classic doom and doom 3 the main reason I got into Pc's in the first place.
So much of my life on those tables. I got the Apple II as a Xmas gift in 1977. I learned coding on it, first BASIC and then Apple Pascal once I got the dual floppy drives, 360k each single sided, needed to use Pascal. Then the OG IBM PC which was the first computer I ever bought for myself, mine did not have the 8087 FP coprocessor. Then there is the Compaq luggable which I bought used in the late 80's. I'm surprised he didn't have, or I didn't see, a TI-30 calculator. I got through all of HS with one, and every geek I knew had one as well.
Glad to see this! The Atari 400/800 were full fledged computers of the day. You could add lots of peripherals and do lots with them. Still new releases and C64 ports coming out for them, too. Would love to see Ultima 5 fully ported. Richard Garriot needs to release the source!
That was an awesome vid.. thanks for the history lesson
Really interesting! Big thumbs up!
Cool vid, was a trip down memory lane.
Never heard of this akBK guy before and this is right up my alley. I'm an old fart so I go right back to the first stuff he showed and while I've lived through a life of this. This guy is young. It impresses me he knows so much about stuff he must have learned about in a relatively short space of time through research rather than just being exposed to it in life. Anyway, impressed and off to this channel now to sub.
AkBKukU
LGR
The 8-Bit Guy
PhilsComputerLab
Techmoan
Adrian Black (Adrian's Digital Basement)
Joe's Computer Museum
Druaga1
Jan Beta
Nostalgia Nerd
RetroManCave
This Does Not Compute
RETRO Hardware
... Just to get you started.
OMFG! AkBKukU is one of my favorites! It's awesome to see him here. I'm huge into RETRO Computers and am currently messing with a 12Mhz 286 at this very minute.
First PC I ever used was the Apple 2e in high school (Late 80's) My buddy got his first PC in 1988 and then in the early 90's he got internet and we would browse and check it out. Around 1995 I got my first PC and the rest is history. Cool vid Steve thanks for the upload.
Excellent! The only problem is that it makes me feel old as i remember most of this old stuff and even used a lot of this hardware from the early 80's onwards.
YESSSS! This is hopefully the first of many crossovers between the modern tech tuber channels and the retro! They're two different worlds, but so interlinked.
Loved this!!
21:00 Good to see the Descent 2 box. Played that back in the days at work on their LAN once 5:00 hit.
Sooo love him!! Great content
I'm dying from nostaliga. As a 34 year old man, i've been through almost all of this. My dad was a HUGE PC nerd growing up, so I've definitely dipped my hand in all these products.
Great content Steve!
Very interesting stuff, thank you
I had that G15 keyboard for so many years. I loved that little screen, lol.
Nice to see all the old computers, when he popped the lid on the apple IIe, it brought back memories of my first job in IT at a school. We had a pallet of Apple IIe's, and to keep the ones in the classrooms working, we would have to mix and match parts off the ones on the pallets that were no longer working. They were long past their best before dates, so the pallet was our only options to replace parts.
Turbo button brings back memories as well. At the time, I was playing a Simpsons game, and I was nearly done the game. I upgraded my computer and it had turbo button, so I had that selected, as faster was always better... Anyways, was not able to finish the Simpsons game, as the computer was to fast for it. It wasn't until years later, that I realized, if I had only turned off the turbo, I could have played the game. Ahh, the days of no internet to look things up :)
love to see more vintage stuff on this channel
Surprising but awesome to see Commodore stuff pop up on GN :)
It's funny how there's a newer model of Logitech G15 and I still have the first model of G15 in cabinet. Still looking nearly brand new and 100% working. Loved that keyboard and took good care of it. Anyways, this was super interesting video, thanks Gamers Nexus and AkBKukU!
I have that first 80's pc your talking about, standing under my desk, its been my feed rest sins the 90's,
Pole position was amazing for that time, i played it a lot.
This guy is a legend! Great vid :-)