COMPLETELY Misunderstood! A POLARIZING Product: Nanoleaf Skylights
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Love the concept - thanks for demonstrating the couple use cases. These seem expensive at first but I can see how Nanoleaf is targeting this for the DIY crowd that might not prefer hiring professionals and / or have limitations due to existing wiring in their homes. Although I do agree with the other comment that hopefully Nanoleaf can get the CRI for their products over 90 like other competitors have already done.
You also showed your living room / steps going into the basement - would be interested in seeing if / how you plan to transform the lighting in those areas as well?
BTW, we came across your channel recently when we were looking for ways to add lights to the stairs leading to our basement and was recommended your video using the Govee lights - curious if that video might be in a different home than the one in this video?
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! I appreciate the insight! This is the only staircase lighting video I have done so far but might try doing another one in the near future! czcams.com/video/zxQ91Uupy9I/video.html
@@ChrisMaherDIY Yep - that is the video I mentioned we first watched on your channel.
In my previous comment I was wondering whether you were planning to update the lighting in your Living Room as well in this video since you mentioned it around the 9 second mark in this video as it being 300 sq ft and having inadequate lighting.
Thanks again and keep up the great work. 👍
P.S. I have been following for few years and also saw HandyDadTV's video on the Nanoleaf Skylight - which could be reason the YT algorithm recommended your video(s) as well and I am glad it did. 😊
I definitely am planning on upgrading the lighting in my living room and going down the stairs at some point but it was just a little too much work and time to do that all in one video! Thanks again for watching. Always fun to hear from people in the comments even though I don't always have the time to respond!
Yo Chris! Have you had a chance to try a Hue Sync Box yet? We had discussed it quite a while ago.
I'm an electrician and I've never seen a light fixture with actual thought put into in how it gets wired.
Beautiful wire routing well done Nanoleaf.
But only 80CRI?
Come on you can do better 90CRI is a absolute minimum for a good home lighting, especially at that price point.
Thanks so much for watching and providing your insight! It will be interesting to see if a bunch of companies start coming out with similar products and what changes they might make. I'll be very curious to see where this all goes!
@@ChrisMaherDIY Yay the actual channel owner and not one of those horrendous phishing bots l have to keep reporting...
Kidding aside, good lighting for working and living isn't something that should be done half heartily and skimmed on.
Here in Germany it's part of the curriculum if you train to become a journeyman electrician.
On that note you've done an awesome job on the lighting so far.
But make sure in the future that you get quality white LEDs with over 90CRI for your bathrooms and kitchens so you and your food doesn't look like props from a zombie movie.
dang 80CRI is a dealbreaker for me for sure.
@@ChrisMaherDIY Absolutely looking forward to LIFX's inevitable improvement on these. They've started offering strips that are quite lovely and I'd like to get some panels that are actually bright and useful instead of just cute toy decorations like the nanoleafs usually are.
Having these skylights for an ENTIRE ceiling would be Crazy! The possibilities for scenes is endless. You could pretty much simulate the sun going from east to west on your ceiling!
Yeah I would have put the drywall anchors in instead of screwing them into just the drywall. Hopefully some of the screws hit wood
We shall see! So far everything is holding strong!
They're like 27 ounces each. 4 screws at 11 inches apart, as long as you didn't overtighten and strip the drywall, is overkill for their weight. Completely unnecessary to make bigger holes for no reason.
So 13 panels in the bedroom come to 1 starterset $270 plus 10 extension tiles $70 each / $700 = $970 total. That's a lot of light, but also a lot of money. On the other hand...
Twenty years ago I already sold panels that were very similar, but that was before the app possibilities. Those were panels from 50x50cm contained 4 zones and did cost a whopping $399 for an extension panel. Sold a 3x3 set for €4000 to a school that made a display of 1,5x1,5 meters only. Of course this was new technology back then and they were build to last and aimed for professional installations. Later they came with dmx. But there are tons of cheaper options nowadays. Traxxon moodlights if you like to see what I'm talking about.
Before seeing the video I thought you really meant sky lights. I can't remember the brand I worked with, but they were similar to Aspire led ceiling tiles. They're pretty amazing, but outside the medical world it didn't do much over here. But with rgbw nowadays your could mimic a sunrise perfectly.
Anywho, love the idea of these tiles, compared with yesterday they're not that expensive, compared with Ali led strips they are. Combined with a popcorn ceiling and your decor in my opinion a complete mismatch. But as long as you are happy with them... Haha. Thanks for showing, love your vids.
Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment! Always love hearing about others experience and knowledge. Very cool hearing about the history of this type of product! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks again!
Would love to see a DIY build of this using WLED and some RGB + High CRI white strips!
Great product, but pricey. for each expansion unit. DIY could be a 3d printed base unit and diffuser top cover, with the RGBW lights around the perimeter and maybe across the middle, with a WLED controller, maybe the one with built in WLED. Probably need a stepdown from mains to 12/24v but might be doable. Would be good if they were WLED native to fit with the rest of the house.
@@andrewpbclarke 3d printed housing is what I thought too. Diffusion is the hardest part I feel with DIY solutions. I haven't seen any actually good 3d printed diffusion, maybe the layer lines are what stops it from being good.
@@Gershy13 look up DIY Machines. He does a clock which is 3D printed and the first 3 layers are printed in silk white. Then a colour change to something else and finish the print. Works great I built one but cannot show it here. If you have a 300 by 300 bed it would work or even the 256 of a Bambu x or p series.
@@andrewpbclarke Thanks I'll check him out, seems to have some cool projects. I've got a Neptune 4 pro which is 250x250 so might just give it a try on a smaller scale and see what the result is.
I do want to try a DIY Version at some point. It would definitely be a fun project but using a homes main power supply is more complex than the standard plug.
It's nice, but not exactly cheap...In Germany, if I remember correctly, you pay more than €400 for nine pieces😮
It's definitely pricy! Hard to say if its overpriced when there is nothing to compare it too but when your first to market with an idea/product you are able to set the tone. Its only a matter of time before other companies follow in Nanoleafs footsteps so it will be interesting to see what others come up with.
As a former electrician in the UK, you'd probably be paying less than £1250 for adding the amount of lights you requested including a minor upgrade for your fuse board to cover the lighting circuits.
If his home is like mine, the entire main box would have to be replaced; it’s quite a bit more involved than adding a few additional circuits to an existing breaker box.
@@velvetjones8634 Perhaps, but in the UK if you solely work on the lighting circuit you could move that circuit to a new mini fuse box that's up to date and provide a "recommendation" to upgrade the existing system
@@TechHunterOfficial That would be nice! I'm not sure if it's an option in the US but it wouldn't surprise me if it were and the electrician didn't tell me about it!
@@velvetjones8634 😂 Probably why I never made any real money, I was too honest.
same with mine. Everything pretty much would need to be upgraded/replaced.
for RGB its great, but for room lighting I couldn't use it. Anything less than a 90 CRI rating looks terrible to me after using high quality lighting. regardless you did a great job
What do you think about using these on a wall instead of on a ceiling? I mean, that might make them more like the original nano leaf items but do you see any problems with it? I’d like to get into the kind of lighting you do and I have a wall fixture in our bedroom that has crapped out on us and buying just a starter set Might be a nice entry into this kind of lighting as well as serving the purpose of replacing the darn wall fixture. 🤷♂️
Why are north American ceilings always popcorn or textured!
is there a way of making a diy version?
I mean, it wouldn't be certified, so your insurance might have a word, but you could do something with standard RGBW LED strips, an ESP32 and WLED?
You'd also have to make the enclosures if you wanted the same look, which could be a ballache as you'd have to work with acrylic or other material you could use for diffusion, as you would likely not be able to source anything "off the shelf" for that sort of enclosure?
Unless you knew of a source of square box ceiling lights with built in diffusers that you could repurpose?
For reference, 5m of BTF lighting RGBW LED strip, with 60 LEDs/m costs roughly £50 (probably the same or thereabouts in dollars, 'cos we always get ripped off in the UK! 😉), and you can get 3 ESP32s for ~£21. Anything else you'd spend would depend on the kit you already have, like soldering gear etc. (or connectors, you can buy LED strip connectors too if you don't want to solder)
Edit: I forgot to mention power supply - you'd have to do something to get 5v power to the ESP32/LEDs, so you'd need either an external PSU, or internal if you can figure out how to wire it from mains light circuit!- Again, the insurance might have... opinions... on that!
I would just buy standard LED cheap lights at Lowes or HD and then add a Govee or such LED strip in it. Ive done that with a few lights at my house and works great. They arent as bright as the stock lights but now have options with it.
I do want to try at some point but tapping into the main power is a different ballgame!
@@ChrisMaherDIY this is where it gets me hahah for the enclosure I was planning on 3D printing the parts. I already did a pseudo-nanoleaf with WLED and a shelf clock with 5v psu. Issue is how to tap main power to feed 5v to the esp32...
@@MrSpleenboy tks mate, I think the complicated part is to tap the main power for the lights and controller 😅
Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your videos. A few things about these lights that I really don’t like. The thickness of the panels and the dim area in the middle of each panel. Both dealbreakers for me. Also, I’ve never been happy with Nanoleafs pricing. I’d bet that Govee will have a similar product before long that will be more affordable and probably brighter and more uniformly lit.
Not to mention on White, these look like a Joe vs The Volcano Fluorescent light fixture.
hahaha
Can someone please help me. If i'm doing a full length of 72ft of rgbw, do i need to inject power every 16.4ft and start a new power supply or can i use a larger power supply that can run the whole line and connect at start and end? I'm doing a room perimeter and would love to have it start and stop in one place and not run a bunch of wires and seperate power supplies. Thanks
Just commenting to say I've done alot of research since I've posted this and have come to the conclusion that these sort of LED strips whether 5v, 12v, or 24v are just not up to the task of long runs. They are starting to come out with dual data but that doesn't solve only being able to control every 6 leds instead of individual. The sk6812 12v did solve this with the constant current strip but they are very expensive and not for sale everywhere yet. Now if they drop that same sk6812 in 24v thats the change that is needed for long runs without injection. Currently, with 24v I will still need to inject twice in the middle and once on each ends to be able to supply the amperage needed over 72 feet. Once tech advances and these constant current strips become more available, then we will really be in business. Currently its really only made for hobbyists.
I refuse to do business with Nanoleaf ever again. I spent several hundred dollars on the Shapes line when they came out. They looked great. And then the updates started. Every update made performance worse until a controller unit stopped working altogether. I learned that I was far from the only person having this problem and the company would not be fixing it or replacing the units. All the great product design in the world can't make up for customer service that bad.
I’ve always heard it was a nightmare but when the control tile went out on my Touch cubes and even though it was out of warranty , they replaced it with no questions asked.
It was a known issue at the time, so that may have had something to do with it.
Adding table or floor lamps would look so much better in that bedroom. You have made a hospital room. Only people with too much money might buy these.
9:15 Cocaine stash spillage.
All jokes aside they look awesome. Thanks for the walk through on setup.
Lol Thanks so much for watching! Appreciate the kind words!
I can't handle the spot in the middle though
Thanks for watching! Hopefully future versions are able to add another row in the middle!
if you'd like to add more lighting you can add surface mount track. then you can "clip in" various fixtures into the track. Its a cheap way to expand lighting in a room
Thats a great idea! Is it very difficult to do?
@@ChrisMaherDIY not at all. They come in 4 and 8 foot lengths. Then you buy the corners and “T’s” that join them together. It’s the ties into any junction box and extends your lighting as far as you’d like
Chris...if you keep adding lighting, you are bound to produce a solar flare soon lol...love the videos!
hahahaha yeah I have to be getting pretty close by now lol. Thanks for watching!
As with everything nanoleaf, they look good, look like they're a breeze to set up, and seem to work really well and smoothly, but holy f*^k are they expensive!
I just looked up the prices, and they want £230 for a 3 unit starter set, and £70 for each, single, expansion unit...
I only say "seem to" work really well, because I have no idea how reliable they are. That said, they're LEDs, so should last many years...
As an aside, I notice in the video you mentioned that there's an option in the app to save settings to the cloud - do you know if they allow you to save settings locally? Because that would be a big plus point for nanoleaf, personally. I *really* hate cloud only based IOT stuff, because you're totally dependent on the company staying afloat and keeping the service alive, and have the right to remove functionality from *your* device on a whim.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! It's definitely pricy! Hard to say if its overpriced when there is nothing to compare it too but when your first to market with an idea/product you are able to set the tone. I'll have to take a closer look to see if there are local backup options. I agree though, that would be nice to have if its not already available. Thanks!
By default all settings are saved to the device, and you can choose to manually transfer pallets and scenes to your other devices. These stored settings will even survive a soft reset, but a hard reset will completely wipe them.
@@LuukDomhof Thanks for the info! At least that means there's a chance you could be able to get the settings into a backup or into Home Assistant from the local app, rather than having to poll the server
@@ChrisMaherDIY I'd imagine there's a fairly big markup on it, if you look at the cost of the parts. If they weren't cheaping out on the parts, they wouldn't be using those push connectors for the wires, and I doubt the brains of the main unit is anything more than an ESP32 or similar, which you can buy retail for 5 bucks.
I don't blame them, they're pricing themselves as a luxury brand, and all the others do as well - Govee, Hue, and even Aqara are all pricey for what they are.
Of all of those, I do like the nanoleaf gear the most - It looks great (some of their stuff looks really classy from the adverts and pictures) and I mean, who doesn't like fun with geometry?! I'd make a joke about squares, but nanoleaf has you covered there as well! 😃
Like Apple, they make nice shiney that I'm currently unable to afford 😁
why are all the products from nanoleaf and govee so expensive
Prices seem to keep going up. Even going the DIY rout with a lot of projects are expensive. Although with this product specifically from Nanoleaf there is nothing to compare it to so its tough to tell currently if its overpriced when there is no alternative.
These are cool as hell! But these price on these is crazy expensive!
Even if you factor the cost of app development or creating the mold, I'm sorry these are still too crazy expensive.
Are the scenes you say at 11:40 custom made or existing presets in the nanoleaf app?
2:10 - Can I ask what that nifty powered driver is?
Nanoleaf is very nice, but i buy two of the Govee Floor Lamp 2 and its perfect for my bedroom because my room is a Bit older and i think the lamps are the best Choose :D
That before and after is crazy. Funny enough, the room i would want to use these in has no wiring at all.
Thanks for watching! Ahh bummer. Yeah if you don't have at least 1 pre existing light fixture, then its not as simple to just swap these in.
They really look cheap and only one color per panel? Ugh.
I really don't think this is a quality product- all issues seem to continue down the 'classic nanoleaf' issues such as connectivity issues, pairing issues, hardware issues...I cut power to my lights once and the pair functionality died entirely, so now i just have $250 light bulbs in my ceiling that have dark spots.
Unfortunately the marketing is better than the product. If it was half or 1/3 the price, maybe, but since I've already wasted my money I recommend not wasting yours.
Great video as always. I'm hoping Govee will make their own "Skylight" now, and for a little cheaper. This is too expensive, I'm cool to pay up for name brand, but this pricing is insane. I guarantee their margins are MASSIVE on this one -.-
Its only a matter of time before others will follow in Nanoleafs footsteps. It's definitely pricy! Hard to say if its overpriced when there is nothing to compare it too but when your first to market with an idea/product you are able to set the tone.
I was excited until I saw the price... smmfh
Definitely pricy! Hard to say if its overpriced when there is nothing to compare it too but when your first to market with an idea, you are able to set the tone. Only a matter of time before more stuff like this hit the market and then we will know a lot more!
you need to check out the new govee ceiling light as well
I did this with normal Nanoleaf panels years ago. Doesn’t have the soft white but it works great.
How were you able to hard wire them into your main power?!
@@ChrisMaherDIY no hardwire, just ran the wire down the wall. It blends fairly well unless you’re looking for it.
This is a great, innovative product that solves a multitude of lighting issues. Bravo! Thank you! Edit: It would be great if they were brighter.... 🙂
Thanks for watching! They are actually very bright but nearly impossible to record the RGB colors at max brightness without everything looking crazy saturated. The whites in my bedroom and basement were max brightness but all the colors were very low brightness. Hope that helps!
@@ChrisMaherDIY Good to hear!
This thing is way overpriced for a piece of plastic and led lights
All their stuff is. Still cool tho
Have you by chance come across, or know how to setup any Outdoor Solar lights that would work with WLED, or something similar in color options? Our back yard patio and pool area could use a little more color here and there and the RGB spot lights I find only have like 6-8 colors to choose from. Looking for both Spot lights and strip Lights.
Hi I've been looking for the same thing--low voltage lights that I can control with WLED. I found this and it's a start. I also found a WLED Discord channel that can be pretty helpful but they're leagues ahead of me on the learning curve and some of the information can be overwhelming.
czcams.com/video/u7-hG6BZvqw/video.htmlsi=eJEZ1FN3ajLRAIPV
I have not but that is definitely a great idea for a future video! I'll add it to my long list of things I would love to try!
@@ChrisMaherDIY I figured if it was out there you would know. You always have the cools stuff out first.
My only issue with this is the amount of holes needed! Drilling so many holes in a concrete house will be a pain 🤣🤣. Other then that indeed fantastic lights
Oh, this is good stuff! Like Chris, I, too, have some places that are badly lit or some older foresenct fixtures that date the space they are in. Like the landry room and some closets. This would be great for these spaces! As much or as little depending on the size of the space and way cheaper than having to pay someone to put in some can lights in. As always, thanks for the detailed video and great results!
Dude you make me so envious your game room has such a chill vibe to it. One day I’ll do that to my whole house
but does it work with Homeassistant
Who use to live there? Vampires?
Looks cool, not sure how those screws will hold but let's hope they do.
Can you link that powered screw driver you’re are using please. Love the video
Thanks so much for watching! Sorry I forgot to link that! here it is: amzn.to/4dMj9jh
7:40
try screwing like that on a concrete ceiling :D
Love your videos. I’ll give you a challenge. Setting up an LED strip like a thermometer or make the strip change colour depending on the temperature outside.
You learned lighting design at Interrogation Room College I see. Really brings out that feeling of hopeless oppression. Good work!
Terrible placement, terrible price.
I give it six months for Govee to rip this off and release at half the price 😂
These would be cool but I would go crazy trying to align them all on the ceiling to be square with the room's walls. I would love to see a DIY 3D printed version with WLED. Hint HINT
Lol that is definitely something I might try doing down the road if I get the motivation! I'll add it to the list of projects I'd like to do!
I love what you did in the game room. The whole room is amazing
Biggest concern... Skylight does not support Matter, and that's why I don't buy Nanoleaf
Great review, thanks! Good to see some shots in the wild beyond Nanoleaf's promo stuff.
$250 for a 3 pack! so cool but so expensive!
Thanks, Chris!
Do you see a way the data channel could be rigged to be controlled with wled? What do you think?
Thanks for watching and great question! I looked closely and my gut says no. It looks like a completely different type of connection and my guess the board and wiring their using is so specific to the product that it would not be compatible.
@@ChrisMaherDIY Ok, thanks for checking. I'm hooked to wled at the moment, I want to control everything through one app so I wanted to know. Btw: good timing for your videos, gives me plans for the weekends. Keep it up, good job!
The fact that these connect to the main power is amazing!
Dudes hands looks like metal claws snikt out of them on a regular basis.
Only be worth it if you can control them without ANY internet connection (ie data harvesting)
Twelve year old me would love this, adult me thinks it looks like garbage why..
Great item but its well over priced, must be 85% markup you can get other options a huge amount cheaper
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! I'm curious what other options are you aware of that you can connect many units together from one source that has dedicated whites and all the RGB colors. I was not aware of anything else in the market like this but maybe I missed something!
@@ChrisMaherDIY Hi, well in my gaming room we used pixel led strips and custom ceiling cladding and as for the coding effects wled or nightdriver, the total cost was £365 and its a lot better looking to be honest
@@tach175 nice! What was the cri on those pixel strips and how did you hard wire them into your main power?!
@@ChrisMaherDIY I can't remember the make and the stats for the pixel strips we used, Was about 12 months ago and they was the best at that time, really are great colours and all was wired in to the old lighting for the power, Just like you did on your video, a friend did the elec work and the custom ceiling cladding was made by airwave av
Ya but dude to cover a ceiling or even a good chunk woul be 1000s
It's definitely pricy! Hard to say if its overpriced when there is nothing to compare it too but when your first to market with an idea/product you are able to set the tone. Its only a matter of time before other companies follow in Nanoleafs footsteps so it will be interesting to see what others come up with.
HI Chris, can you make a tutorial on how to sync wled with signalrgb. Thnaks.
Hey chris, i’ve recently bought the exact desk that you use, but during assembly i chose the wrong way so the L is on my left instead of right. this is a problem only for the fact that i want to see my pc internals while gaming. If you had any suggestions i’d love to hear it
I had my eye on those for a long time when they tease them... I really was disappointed with the product. Mega expensive, not high quality, difficult mounting... So i bough the aqara one...
the game room looks amazing
well done the diy option paid off af
Sorry Chris, but nanoleaf suck because they are one color or the other at a time... no gradient lighting ... it would be easier to build your own and they would look sooo much better especially with the WS2812b LEDs.... Just Saiyan...
oh great nanoleaf🙄 so like 500$ for a set of 3? Wouldn't be surprised
These lights are cool but overpriced I think
Please don't say the personal assistant trigger words, so you didn't activate your audience's personal assistants (at least without ample warning.) Ex: Hey Alexa...
They seem beautifully designed!
Amazing man . Your videos are always pleasant to watch and relaxing. keep it up!
Appreciate it my friend! Thanks so much for watching!
Nanoleaf should have been on the home led lighting world but connection issues was their downfall. I still have many nanoleaf products that I don't use because of that issue. Govee has totally taken the top spot from Phillips hue and Nanoleaf.
I'll wait for the WLED version
wallpaper name please
What's the name of the music at 10:24?
I'll wait for govee to don it better and cheaper but cool
nice, but the prices. dear lord!
DUDE! 196k subs!! congrats man!
Those knuckles bro!!!!
Thank you. That’s really useful.
Thanks so much for watching!!
YOOOOOOOOOOOO KUROKOOO AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Yeah buddy!! I love anime and I love basketball. Its perfect.
I need this in Brazil :"(
lmao 11960 dollars is a JOKEEEE
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Epic!
Thanks so much!! Appreciate it!
Waiting for govee ones ⏰️
Thts awesome
Thank you Chris.
You are very welcome! Thanks buddy!
Dude I wish we were neighbors lol
So much monies 🥲
(Go Vikes)
TOO EXPENSIVE !!!!
insanely over priced lol.
It's definitely pricy! Hard to say if its overpriced when there is nothing to compare it too but when your first to market with an idea/product you are able to set the tone. Its only a matter of time before other companies follow in Nanoleafs footsteps so it will be interesting to see what others come up with.
The king of lighting.
Holy tacky 😂 hard pass