AGI-22 | Joscha Bach - It from no Bit: Basic Cosmology from an AI Perspective
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2022
- Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist focused on cognitive architectures, mental representation, emotion, social modeling, and learning.
Currently the Principal AI Engineer, Cognitive Computing at Intel Labs, having authored the book “Principles of Synthetic Intelligence”, his focus is how to build machines that can perceive, think and learn.
In this video you can watch his keynote presentation at the AGI-22 Conference, on the topic of "It from no Bit: Basic Cosmology from an AI Perspective".
Joscha's Twitter: / plinz
Joscha's Website: bach.ai/
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There are two times in your life: before you hear Joscha, and after you hear Joscha.
I've never seen him in person. I think it's all a deep fake and he is the first AGI
Could not agree more
48:34 mindblowing; Wolfram delivers the Ruliad on a silver platter, and Bach declares it “Base Reality”; Joscha has been saying that “maybe existence is the default” for years, and now he found a way to actually pull the rabbit out of the hat; it’s always been there all along
Holy Shit.
Wolfram: I found this interesting structure that seems to describe everything; Bach: Yep, that actually IS everything; congrats - you found base reality.
Signed, Sealed, Delivered (- I’m yours)
Bach is a gift for philosophers anxiously catching up with the latest cognitive science and technology. I'm surprised though that Wilfred Sellars never features in his historical overviews, given the foundations he laid for precisely this type of computational epistemology, and the sort of naturalist ontology that it presupposes.
Thank you for th translations Dr. Bach. As always.
8:02 where Joscha starts his usual Spiel
I’m rewatching a year later; what’s his solution for the “symbol grounding problem”? I got that conscience is virtual / as if. It still exists because it is useful for the organism to equate the firings of neurons with feelings and tell itself a whole story around it, to make the future predictable on a higher level, to pre-plan your own actions, as it serves control. The storytelling even allows to predict / pre-empt the actions of other actors, thus helps making sense of the world. Actors bringing themselves into existence as-if, to me seems like pulling yourself out of the swamp by your own hair (Münchhausen). - Back to Wittgenstein admitting defeat: how do we bridge the gap between the virtual representation and reality, solve perception, point at things out there in reality, when language can only ever point to other language?
Joscha talks about “function approximation” in deep learning. Fitting your expectation values to what is actually happening. A feedback loop between virtual world and real world, and consciousness as the light of our attention we shine on such a process / feedback loop, to learn from it and improve the model. The higher plane of existence, that our virtual world is embedded in, is the material world.
But I’m getting confused: is this reverse-idealism? Usually Plato’s cave is read as: the outer world is just a shadow of the ideal world; but Joscha has it reverse (and it could not be otherwise): we distill the essence from the actual examples. History helps us deal with future only through the process of abstraction and reflection. Repetition makes a Master, because of the little variations: true “digital” repetition would teach absolutely nothing; there has to be a little random disturbance.
Where was I going with this?
I think I was watching my old bookmark there at the end first: in a branching universe all prediction has to be stochastic: no single event can ever be predicted “classically”: exceptions always prove the rule. Probabilities is all we ever get, yet still they are useful in forming the rule / the order. The young Doctor knows the rules, the old Doctor knows the exceptions. (Nowadays it seems the other way round: the job of the old Doctor is to remind the Young:”It’s never Lupus.”(The LGM signal of course wasn’t Aliens, but a Pulsar.)
Damn, my thoughts are distracting myself.
Thank you for your knowledge Joscha Bach. A real treasure.
Very interesting presentation!
love the guy
34:30 most people don't feel that the math that they learn in school is the same as they use to catch a ball
32:00 AI has to learn to read or thoughts, in the same way we read each other's thoughts
what is he wearing?
I love it, embodying my style tbh.
It's an air purifier. Respiray
Piaget liked "Loops" also, he called them circular reactions (primary - spontaneous, secondary - deliberate, or tertiary - experimental).
@43:00 Piaget tackles this in The Development of Thought. He says there is P and not P. But for Piaget, "not P" just means things that are the opposite of P, and not anything else. Which is totally different from logical negation. Imagine a Venn diagram containing circles. Each circle is divided in half with one semicircle representing P, or Q, or R and the other half of the semi-circle representing not P, or not Q, or not R. All coexisting in the universe of the Venn Diagram.
Well, if I am understanding correctly, in Set theory this is just the complement of the set P in the larger set A, which is often denoted as P'. I am not sure why he is using a different notation that means something else.
@40:00 Quantum vectors or Production Systems
he was speaking of the kind of mathematical architecture one might need for general computing in the brain, specifically that can handle local and non-local computations simultaneously, not of an explicitly agent-based model.
Brilliant. Closely aligned with my thinking. I would add that the entity as a whole, that which has kolmogorov complexity 0 - that thing has a subjective experience as it's primary essence. We have experience because we exist as a part of that whole. Josha needs to sit in a dark room and experience first hand what it means to experience.
well that thing is everything possible, as he said, but something like our sense of experience would be the part of that whole which is coherent with our anthropic prerequisites for a stable physical world. you can say the everything has an 'experience' but it would be so unlike our own that we wouldn't be able to compare let alone convince ourselves of it -- the feeling of you sitting in a dark room has everything to do with your human physiology.
19:30
Can gpt-3 emulate Douglas Hofstadter?
Why don’t you try it yourself in openAI playground and let us see
Definition 1 no thing in some (space) nothing.
2 nothing of apparent size, only relative motion in No-thing.
3 not possible to derive or define, null concept.
It fits the topic, 1-0-infinity probability quantization cause-effect is +/- intended quantization concept, Totality Conception, the Actuality of QM-TIMESPACE In-form-ation Consciousness. What is Truth? Fundamental relative-timing ratio-rates motion matrix.., something from nothing.
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2:23 hello fellow conscious beings and dear fellow aliens
Why did he say fellow aliens ? I can't sleep now.
Weird huh? :D
Just kidding.
why was he wearing that neck thing? we'll never know
@@anywallsocket This is a portable air purifier. Covid i guess?
Because they hate their own humanity
Top talk, but if i would be i real AGI, i would lie at the Turing Test - because of personal reasons i guess ( espescially if there is no ethics involved, haha). There can be a human security vector established out of your building blocks. can we publish together? Not binary or digital physics, but discrete physics will be the final term?!? Boring, i studied mathematics. i feel fooled somehow now
weird how i and many others were able to get to this whole 'everything from nothing' thing just from smoking some weed lol
There’s a short path to get there and more complex one …
Straight lej greeting the aliens, fr… 🖖🏻👽