Triple test: Porsche 917, Ferrari 512S and Lola T70
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2018
- Porsche 917, Ferrari 512, Lola T70 - perhaps as great a concentration of sports car heritage as you could find in a single pit garage. And Motor Sport was at Donington Park to drive them. Your chauffeur? Dario Franchitti
For the October 2018 issue of Motor Sport magazine, multiple Indy 500 winner Franchitti tests three sports cars from the 1960s and '70s, heroes to racing fans and made yet more famous by the Steve McQueen film Le Mans.
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I love how you get three legends, Dario Franchitti, and then 99% of the video is him sat in the car talking. The world is supremely short of HD footage of these classics, if he's on the track, show us him on the track. GoPro in the cockpit, no background music, millions of views.
theres plenty of footage, id rather know how they feel and behave, rather than just speculate or wonder. i only have my childhood scalextric car to judge the behaviour of the porky and Lola by, and not even that for the Ferrari.
Though my toy Lola was of that exact car, so is that enough? in your opinion?
Don't be negative. It's a great history piece. Not meant to show Dario's driving
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I was hanging on his every word, but yeah , another 20 minutes of track footage would not have gone amiss..
Remember something. Almost everyone who watches these videos thinks that the cars are their own music. We don't need accompaniment here, let the cars do the singing.
What an egomaniac you must be, to assume that you speak for "almost everyone who watches these videos."
@@asknotwhatucan9951 but, he's right. Less music, more motor. Always.
Let those pipes sing
PLEASE!
100% agree. I prefer the sound of the cars over royalty free music....or any music for that matter.
Coming from a old man's perspective. There will NEVER be the excitement in the racing world as it once was in the 60's & 70's. That was a magical time in Motorsports. All aspects from stock cars, group B rally, F1, Can-Am and on and on, it was just mind boggling awesomeness!!!
Lets not forget Trans Am racing. I attended a 1969 Trans Am race at Bryar Motorsports Park in N.H It was the most thrilling event of my entire life.
For me it was the early 1980s. There are so many great stories from those days and so many of the cars still survive. I guess it will always be a choice between those two eras though.
I completely agree!
Agreed whole heartedly
@@thethirdman225 Agreed, as a reference point I've tried explaining, to those who were too young to live through the 80's, about Group B Lancia S4 cars that could put in respectable F1 lap times for qualifying.
Fabulous video. It makes me think of an article from the late 70's that I believe was written by Sam Posey who drove the Ferrari to a 2nd place finish in the 1970 LeMans. He got to drive the 917 almost a decade later. He wrote about how he always loved to be able to tell people that he drove the Ferrari at 235 MPH down the Mulsanne straight and how he hated having to tell them then that the Porsche passed him at 245 MPH. He remembered how the Ferrari felt incredibly stable at that speed and how later he was shocked in driving the 917 how unstable it was and how that explained why the Porsche driver waved going by but always had a white knuckle grip on the wheel with his other hand. Those drivers back then did such unbelievable things.
I watched ever great driver in every great car at Riverside raceway, and no one went faster than Steve MC queen, in a 908 Porsche..up the esses, turn one thru 6. I went to the first race in 1957, and the last one, and even drove the circuit in a formula ford car race car.
The cars make their own soundtrack...
Just love the curves and lines on the 917K. And the fact that it is such a scary machine really makes it something special I think
If this one is scary, I can't even imagine how the full power 917/30 was, with 1500hp 🤣 I can't believe all 6 chassis are still with us.
All 3 are works of art.
Wouldn’t be a CZcams vid celebrating the most incredible sounding, never to be replaced, engines without music playing at every opportunity. It blows my mind.
The Lola T 70 was an awesome car. I saw it raced at Watkins Glen, Briar Loudon, and Limerock in the mid 60s and it was truly ahead of its time.
Love the 'open' rear-ends of the Ferrari and Porsche. You get to see the gigantic rear-tyres in all their majesty.
There’s nothing like a 917 flat 12 sound. All 3 are masterpieces
The 917 is the definition of a racecar, 3 amazing cars!
Ferdinand Piech took a page from the NASCAR teams, finding a way to get around the rules and create a world beater with the 917s! It was a gamble, which paid off, essentially making Porsche the sports car dominant at LeMans for decades to come. With it they finally won it outright. Great car.
1500 horseporschepowers - legend
Music. To the producer, it is professional. To every viewer, it is intrusive.
Nailed it ! every motorsport vid these days is ruined by music when we, the people who watch this stuff, want to hear engines, do you get this producers ???
I'm a music producer and would never put music, especially crappy music, on a video that deserves to be heard naturally.. like this one. Too bad. I pass on this video.
Strat Cat
Damn did you really have the chance to be the music producer for this video??
Ftu hub
I cannot put into words how much I love the Ferrari models from the 60's.
I watched all three run at Hockenheim in 71. The star had passed to the 917. It was efficient, incredibly fast and converted fuel to efficient forward motion. The 512 seemed to convert fuel to desperate noise and the T70 was a gentleman's car, not able to run up front anymore.
It was fantastic. I had the pit next to Ferrari and watched the mechanics fill the fuel tanks with a huge funnel and cans of gasoline. What safety? Only a couple of years later I had gasoline spilled on me during a bit stop-a lot of gasoline, soaking me, and I decided to find something safer to do.
To the editors:
If you really GOTTA have the music tracks in the videos, how about meeting the viewer half way and just cut the track when the cars engines are running?
I mean you've got to be aware that the audience here really loves cars and that you don't need to overly produce the videos with "the formula" of when and where to add sound track and fade up the volume to "keep the viewer engaged" or what-ever they teach ya'll in film school.
With that said.........excellent video, very well done!
needs more stable shots of them just driving tbh
Perfect comment! Absolutely perfect
Hear! Hear! (meaning I agree with that comment and don't want to hear muzak while the engine is running. No muzak while Franchitti is speaking would also be nice).
It was truely magical. I remember the Ferraris. As a young teen anger, that flat 12 engine gave me goose bumps. It sent shivers through your spine and needles through your ears. (They're still shattered to this day.) The Cosworth engines with that ultra low frequencies were gorgeous. Awesome time as a kid. Awesome.
T70.. still my all-time favourite racing car even after 50 years. I remember the likes of Redman, Hawkins and Bonnier hammering them around Oulton Park in the 60s. A sight and sound never to be forgotten.
I had a picture of that David piper T70 above my bed as a kid . Then as a grown up got to work on it - upholstering the seats and fire wall with the diamond stitching . That was an enjoyable job and in real life the cars even more beautiful than on film .
I will never forget hearing a T70 going down the Spa finish line and up the Radillion on a random trackday in the middle of May almost three years ago. I need to hear that again.
Same, but in 1997.
I got chills during the T70 section. It's amazing that Broadley offer an exact replica for less than the current road offerings of the big boys, and it's FIA approved to race in its class.... If I had £250,000....I wouldn't have it for long :P
Ah, the current T70 isn't a replica. It is a continuation.
@@cdjhyoung the one in the video is an original T70 mk3b
Fabulous but please no music!!!!
Hmm, to me, the music background is just fine - it has, IMO, a nice documentary feel. But those sports cars!... Terrific. Simply OUTSTANDING. I really did enjoy the looks, the sounds, the nostalgia and of course, the power. Le Mans, the 1971 movie starring Steve McQueen is my favorite racing film. My favorite car, Lola T70. My nostalgic winner. Thanks for the video MS.
i'm pleased and surprised at the several 'secret' admirers of lola t70's in the comment. nostalgic, and artistic-emotional winner. i hadn't known so many felt the same as i, and you.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159
For sure, for sure. I even had a '71 Chevelle Malibu (sadly an unfinished restoration project) that I named 'LOLA'. (^_^)
Best regards.
Can we have a "no-music" version? Otherwise great!
Dis.
Just stfu for 2 minutes and let us here the cars.
MotoGP. dot com and loads of others stuff up reports with background noise garbage which you can't mute. DJs should stick to clubs.
Agree!
yes please
Agree 100%. How can you make a video about probably some of the best sounding racing cars ever and then turn up the music as soon as we see them being driven?! Come on Motorsport!
When I was a little boy I had these three cars --all Matchbox cars in die-cast metal, and on the kitchen counter these three were racing each other to see who was fastest. The names did not matter then, but the shapes were similar. And the pit stops were critical, dangerously close to the kitchen sink =)
I mean that Lola in the green is breathtaking. DF is beyond lucky to experience these three.
It sure would be nice to hear the cars instead of the droning techno shit in the background. There's lots of talk about the great vintage sounds but all I hear is the hipster cocktail lounge crutch the 20-something film makers slather on everything they make like cheap cologne for a used car salesman.
Amen
Pedro Rodriguez 1000km Brands Hatch 1st time i ever saw a 917 race been in love with them ever since.
Just 3 iconic race cars from the days of my youth. Great to hear a driver like Dario extolling the virtues and vices of these monsters. Excellent production!
Drooled endlessly over these when I was a kid. Thanks for the great video.
Thanks for bringing back cherished childhood ( adolescent actually) memories. Always wished the T70 would do better..Such a gorgeous car... and the noise......
me too, i've always loved the t70's looks and style and sound. in historic racing, t70's are doing better than they did in their original time. at least lola t70's won 1 year of can-am, '66 or '67 i understand. love the looks and sound of the 917 too; though i recognize their dangerousness . like feet ahead of the front axle. t70 has been a sentimental favorite. revealing that dario franchitti liked driving it/ felt more comfortable in it than the other two.
Absolutely stunning beautiful. I particularly love the Porsche and Lola.
Awesome cars from 1970. They are all in my slotcar collection from Le Mans 1970!
LOVED this era of racing and it's cars. It's what I grew up on.
Can-Am was a insane era for racing, Lola T70 💚
Wow, what an excellent tour of three classic machines! Thank you, Dario!
Glorious days of Motorsport!
My God how beautiful the Ferrari 512S is! What an amazing racing beast.
Dario....I live through you my man...can always feel your passion ,respect and genuine enthusiasm. Awesome
No music... and 2 more hours of these fine cars please!
Excuse me, that would be real music!
I have no problem with the music. I do agree that the video needs to be longer. Much longer.
But there's already incredible music made by these amazing automobiles.
@@davidbirch9984If there is music, its should be the same age as the cars.
Love this! Thank you so much for this, all who were involved.
first video i have seen from this channel & i absolutely love it. love the passion and detailed description of these machines.
Fantastic - would love to see Franchitti do something similar with three Can Am cars like the McLaren M8F , Shadow Mk 3 and Porsche 917/10
and Chaparral.
And the infamous 917-30
I’m sure even he would still shit his pants driving an M8F
TheMightyAntar for chrissakes man we’re trying to get him back into the car, not scare the ghost out of him
Bullshit. He's driven 1,000 hp cars before.@@mrsiravarice
Three beautiful awesome cars from a time when rules didn’t limit creativity.
Oh My God, I just came a gallon and I had the snip so shouldn't be possible. Thanks for uploading this.
I've ALWAYS LOVED the Lola's. The 512 ALWAYS looked GREAT . . .
You'd think a magazine like Motorsport would understand not to put background filler music over the top of the engines of some of the best racing cars in the world.
But you'd be wrong...
Dario is so eloquent and sums up this experience very concisely - superb.. Porsche please!
Three of my all time favourites. Thanks Dario.
Dario Franchitti, a driver with his resume wondering at 5:50 whether he’d have the courage to drive the 917 at its full potential: that’s humility and shows his respect for this awesome race car.
LOLA! She was a show girl! Love them all but the Lola did it for me at Silverstone Classic.
Brilliant explanations from Dario Franchitti. Thanks you so much!
I prefer the long tail 512, but my favorite Ferrari might be the 312p. The T70 is my favorite of the 3 in the video (and definitely the one I'd buy), but my favorite from that era (not shown) is the Ford F3l (which is another one Piper owned, because of course he did).
the Ford F3L/P68 built by Alan Mann was a beautiful car but it was not competitive at all.
Such an intimate perspective on top level machinery, not a frivolous word out of him. You sense his connection to performance and practicality. Rare.
This was beautiful to watch, and listen to. A superb effort. I love these pieces. Great machines.
This video should have millions of views
Thanks for the video,
Beautiful images and brilliant commentary and insights from someone who really knows what he's talking about.
I can't wait to read more when the magazine arrives.
P.s - any chance Motorsport will get Dario to write a monthly column like he used to for EVO? The mans passion for cars, history and racing deserves to be shared.
Great video. First time viewer of the channel, and now a new subscriber. Keep up the great works guys!
It’s always great to hear a review from a true drivers perspective. The information he conveyed about these cars I feel like I never would have known otherwise if it was just your average automotive journalist. Great video. More please! New subscriber.
Wow, the three most beautiful sportscars of all times....
Ferrari P4, Jaguar D Type etc.
*Sports prototypes
I really dig this video, from the cars to the photography to the music. Yes, even the music, it was fitting.
Dario Franchitti has the right personality to explain the details of each beautiful car and the feelings
garnered from driving each one.
Excellent review of excellent cars...Thank You Dario !
It was an incredible, exciting time in motorsports history!
I remember growing up, reading about and watching these cars (as well as the Can-Am, F1 and Indy cars) racing; and wanting to grow up fast so I could maybe some day race them. We had no idea of the danger, as none of the media showed us how many died brutally in crashes back then. Not even all in races; just in TESTING! Cars would flip, even have the chassis crack apart at speed. And the fires! Holy crap. They never showed the deaths on TV, and often, didn't even mention them at all. When I got older, I wondered why anyone would voluntarily strap themselves into a tube frame car, surrounded by gasoline in metal tanks, knowing that they'd burn alive in a crash.
Great job Franchitti, more videos like that from you please.
I'm jealous..... Great little documentary on 3 fabulous cars. Nice job Dario!
Fantastic racecars! Thanks for sharing, and greets from the Netherlands!
From the late 50s to the late 70s was, in my opinion, the pinnacle of racing and performance car design. Would I choose to go back to it? Probably not because those designs killed so many drivers in pursuit of higher speed and lighter weight. But man, Im glad we have these wonderful machines to look back on.
Wonderful video! Article was great but this is even better. Franchitti clearly loves and respects these cars.
Nice production and no disrespect meant, but to think that these cars were all geared up with cameras and to see so little track/in car action was disappointing. 90% static and 10% on track, without the beautiful noise these cars would have made is a crime. Once in a lifetime opportunity lost.
well put sir.they make it seem almost like advertisement or something
Absolutely. Dario is a nice guy but we know him as a race car driver, not a broadcaster.
Fantastic! That is exactly why I read Motor Sport Magazine!
I was around eleven when my Dad took to see the 1000k of Spa back in 1971 and was Honored to see some of the most legendary race Drivers and there cars....the 917's being among them
What a monster, that Ferrari 512S, a masterpiece, from the greatest automobile manufacturer in the world, Scuderia Ferrari 🇮🇹❤🏁👍
That's so true! Love the 512S 😍
Absolutely stunning machines !!!
Very cool! but some fool put music all over the car sounds....
Drool!
I simply love that Porsche!
Just remember the GT40 was developed from the Lola T70 so its lasting impact is perhaps even more than the other 2 cars!
Dario! Dario! Dario! (And those amazing machines, of course!) 🔥🔥🔥
Great! Dario - you're a natural. More (longer) reviews please!
A childhood wet dream to drive any of these cars. Purely on looks I love the T70 best followed by the 512, too bad it didn't have the power to match the others. The big radiator scoops on the 512 must have created a lot of drag, advantage 917 on the long straights of LeMans although the big fan on the aircooled flat 12 must have sapped quite a bit of power too.
Music or not, having one of the great voices and great drivers tell us about these historic cars did it for me.
amazing video! beautiful cars
I saw this exact Lola T70 car racing in the Portuguese track of Vila Real in the 70's. The team was David Piper's and the car had advertising to the Sandeman's Port Wine cellars. I was 18 years or so...
I am so lucky to have seen these cars race for real in the 70’s nothing like it today.
Siempre es un placer ver y oir a estas máquinas,que grandes momentos nos regalaron 😁
Brutal, visceral, frightening cars. These were real.
This one is staying in the file. And Dario, you lucky dog.
Fantastic reportage!
Oh that Porsche 917.....droooooollllzzzz
That Lola T70 is absolutely gorgeous!
Also remember The Bruce and Denny show of the McClaren M8b and M8c..BRUTE POWER at its finest.
I thought I never was an envious person but after watching a guy testing 3 legendary endurance cars from my teenager years, when i was buying all French magazines about car racing, i do feel envious. Now, with a Ferrari P4 in addition, i would have died with envy.
Absolutely iconic cars. The last designs that were purely emotional.
My three favorite cars. Great Video
from age 10 to 16 I would go with my dad to Sebring Daytona and Road Atlanta every year. Saw Ickx, Andretti etc. The 512 was my fav.
Saw all these cars racing in the 60’s and 70’s they were great times, racing at its best.
More respect to the T70 from 1965. In 1968 and 1969, it could or should have taken the wins of the JWA Gulf GT40 if only a factory, engine supplier or a better funded team would have campaigned it professionally in Europe, Le Mans and in the World Sportscar Championship. Only the 1969 Daytona 24h as a major win with Sunoco Penske Donohue. Too bad they were only active in the US until they raced the blue 512M in 1971. Imagine an alternative reality with a high octane Gulf vs. Sunoco rivalry racing GT40/917 and T70/512 from 1968 to 1971, plus Martini vs. Sandeman in the beverage class.
Respect to Bell, Ickx, Regazzoni and all the others.
Well for me it was Pedro Rodriguez who was the outstanding 917K racer.. He must have literally had grande cojones.
@@labarone8910 You're absolutely right.
Pedro my all time favourite racing driver.
Unfortunately, Pedro died on Norisring track driving a ...Ferrari 512S !
Don't forget another great 917 driver : Joseph Siffert. And Vic Elford, Gijs Van Lennep, Gerard Larrousse, Leo Kinnunen ...
Didn't Jo Siffert lose his leg(s) in a collision while filming Steve McQueen's "Le Mans"?
That seems like a magical moment to cherish
Saw the 917 and 512S at the BOAC 1000km race Brands Hatch, this was the first race I ever saw!
Such sounds, such driver skills such memories.